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    Re: 2018 fire restrictions

    Just because Bill Williams mountian was mentioned, here are some pictures from the top of the lookout tower i took when elk hunting this past winter

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    Re: 2018 fire restrictions

    Fossil creek area subject to coconino nf closure come Wednesday. Meaning nobody allowed. At all.

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    Six large areas of the Coconino National Forest, including the San Francisco Peaks and Mount Elden/Dry Lake Hills, Fay Canyon and Fisher Point, and Fossil Creek will be closed to all public access beginning Wednesday at 8 a.m. — just days before Memorial Day weekend.

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    Also included in the closure order are areas around Kelly Canyon south of Kachina Village, an area northwest of Mormon Lake and the Mogollon Rim area south of state Route 87.

    Everyone is prohibited from entering these forest closure areas and access can only be obtained by a special permit authorized by the Forest Service district ranger.

    The order comes in the face of high fire danger and extremely dry conditions across northern Arizona. The energy release component, a measure of fire danger, has shot above what was previously the maximum value for the past 10 years. Most of the county is in severe or extreme drought, with a small sliver in the east already in exceptional drought, the highest stage.

    Descriptions of the closure areas are as follows:

    San Francisco Peaks/Mt. Elden: Areas north and east of Highway 180 from the city of Flagstaff to Upper Hart Prairie Road (Forest Road 151), south of Forest Road 418 and west of Highway 89 and Forest Road 420.

    Kelly Canyon: Areas south of Kachina Village between Highway 89A and Interstate 17 and north of Forest Roads 253 and 253E.

    Fay Canyon/Fisher Point:
    Areas between Lake Mary Road and Walnut Canyon National Monument, south of Flagstaff city limits and north of Forest Road 128

    Mormon Mountain: An area northwest of Mormon Lake bounded by Forest Roads 132, 132A and 240.

    Mogollon Rim south of State Route 87: Coconino National Forest land south and east of State Route 87

    Fossil Creek: Coconino National Forest land south of State Route 260 and east of Fossil Creek Road

    Private land is not affected by the closure orders in these areas. Arizona Snowbowl will be allowed administrative access and can host already-booked indoor events only. It will not be opening its outdoor summertime operations, including the scenic chairlift, General Manager J.R. Murray said.

    The rest of the Coconino National Forest remains in Stage 2 fire restrictions, which prohibit all campfires, even in designated developed campgrounds, as well as charcoal, coal or stove fires. Smoking (except within an enclosed vehicle or building), discharging a firearm and possessing or using a motor vehicle off National Forest System designated roads are also prohibited under these restrictions (except in the Cinder Hills).

    The Kaibab National Forest implemented its own closure order covering the Bill Williams Mountain area on May 11. That forest is also in Stage 2 restrictions for all areas except those north of Grand Canyon National Park, which are in Stage 1 restrictions. Those restrictions prohibit campfires outside of designated developed campgrounds.

    Coconino County has implemented fire restrictions that mirror those in effect in the surrounding national forest.

    The Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest announced this week that it is planning area closures as well but has not said where they will be. The Arizona Department of Forestry and Fire Management has taken similar steps, announcing a full closure of state-owned and managed lands in both Apache and Navajo Counties that started Friday. The Prescott National Forest put out a release Friday that current conditions do not warrant any forest closures yet.

    In deciding to close the forest, the Forest Service analyzes the fire danger based on fuels moistures and other indicators, the vulnerability of certain areas if a fire were to start and values at risk from wildfire like homes, infrastructure and watersheds, among other factors.

    The last time the Coconino implemented a forest closure was 2006.

    Thinning and other forest or watershed restoration projects must cease in forest closure areas.

    Partner agencies, organizations, concessionaires, outfitters, permit holders and contractors, including utilities, are also prohibited from entering or doing work on infrastructure in those areas.

    Violating closures and fire restrictions carries a mandatory appearance in federal court, punishable as a Class B misdemeanor with a fine of up to $5,000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization, or up to six months in prison, or both. Residents are also reminded that to avoid a citation and/or impounding of their personal property to not leave property unattended in the forest.

    A closure across the entire national forest may be implemented in the future if dry and hot conditions persist without precipitation, according to the agency.

    For further information about fire restrictions in the Coconino National Forest, call the Fire Restriction Hotline at 928-226-4607.

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    It is unfortunate it has to come to this. So many idiots out there. I see so many careless people pulling trailers with chains dragging throwing sparks or flicking cigarettes out the window. I have had to put out several campfires left smoldering after people leave there camps. I will be surprised if it all doesn't get closed next month.

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    Effective May 23, certain areas of Tonto join the closure, including Mt Ord and Four Peaks areas.

    https://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto...d=FSEPRD580925
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    Tomorrow (5/23/18) at 8am, all state-owned/managed lands in #Coconino County, S. of the Grand Canyon, & Gila County will close to entry for all recreational activities. @CoconinoCounty @gilacountygov #AZStateForestry


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    Re: 2018 fire restrictions

    Has this level of closure for recreational use ever happened before on this scale? I haven't been around as long to know. Any of you older guys seen this in dry years?

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    Re: 2018 fire restrictions

    Stinks. Time to head to Colorado!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Begz View Post
    Has this level of closure for recreational use ever happened before on this scale? I haven't been around as long to know. Any of you older guys seen this in dry years?
    It's rare, but it's not as bad as it seems. The map posted in 21 is showing all that blue stuff as closed, but it's not. Only the State owned land within that area is closed.

    The map in post 18 is accurate. Those are the areas of the forest that have not been thinned yet. Everything north of 260 and south of mormon lake is open. Mormon mountain area is closed, but everything around it is open.

    Now that the forest is banning the responsible people, there will be nobody there to finish putting out the campfires left by the irresponsible! Or report/put out lightning strike fires. Sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OTR-93YJ View Post
    Now that the forest is banning the responsible people, there will be nobody there to finish putting out the campfires left by the irresponsible! Or report/put out lightning strike fires. Sucks.
    +1 ^^^ this. Up here on the mountain there's a fair share of folks who scream "CLOSE THE FOREST!" every damn year. But they do not understand the whole ramifications, reminds me of folks who want all access always closed.

    The ASNF has closed the area south of 260 and north of the rim from Forest Lakes to Show Low, Promontory Butte, areas to the southwest of Greer and Nutrioso and Alpine. Map:

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    Quote Originally Posted by OTR-93YJ View Post
    It's rare, but it's not as bad as it seems. The map posted in 21 is showing all that blue stuff as closed, but it's not. Only the State owned land within that area is closed.

    The map in post 18 is accurate. Those are the areas of the forest that have not been thinned yet. Everything north of 260 and south of mormon lake is open. Mormon mountain area is closed, but everything around it is open.

    How do you know exactly what areas are open and what are closed? Are there more accurate maps that show state land?

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    The White Mountain Apache Tribe has closed large portions of the Fort Apache Indian Reservation to the public to help prevent human-caused fires and forest damage.

    ***Please see map below for details on closed areas***

    The following recreational areas remain OPEN:

    - Sunrise Lake
    - A-1 Lake
    - Bog Tank
    - Horseshoe Lake
    - Big Bear Lake
    - Little Bear Lake Hawley Lake
    - Earl Park Lake Cyclone Lake
    - Ditch Camp
    - Paradise Creek
    - Lower Log Campsites Upper Log
    - Campsites Cooley Lake
    - Iron Mine
    - Salt River
    - East Fork of the White River
    - Black River South: Amos Wash to the Salt River

    Link including map:

    https://www.facebook.com/NavajoCount...472958/?type=3
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    Their map kind of sucks.

    The White Mountain Apache Tribe issued Executive Order #05201801 closing a portion of the reservation. Gwendena Lee- Gatewood, White Mountain Apache Tribal Chairwomen signed the Executive Order today, May 23, 2018 and the order becomes effective immediately.

    The folllowing recreational lakes and camp sites shall remain CLOSED:
    Reservation Lake, Drift Fence Lake, Pacheta Lake, Black River, Tonto Lake, Christmas Tree Lake, Hurricane Lake, Bonito Prairie Stock Tank, The Black River North: Black River Crossing to Rattle Snake Point.

    Wood Cutting is prohibited until further notice with an exception made for the following areas for ceremonial purposes and wakes only: East of Cibecue Creek, South of BIA, Routhe 12(Cibecue Creek to Cibecue Junction), US Route 60(Cibecue Junction to Carrizo Junction and State Route 73 to Fort Apache; west of White River to the confluence of the White and Black River.

    Keep in mind the Fort Apache Indian Reservation is under Stage 2 Fire Restrictions which prohibits campfires and charcoal fires.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Estrada View Post
    How do you know exactly what areas are open and what are closed? Are there more accurate maps that show state land?
    Here is the state land:
    http://gis.azland.gov/webapps/parcel...0&layers=3,2,0

    I know this will probably spawn a new discussion on why it's checker boarded.
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