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    Harley owners, Did you know??

    Quote Originally Posted by OTR-93YJ View Post
    Wow, I was told at the shop to run 40 PSI when alone and 45-48 when two up. There's no way I can run even as low as 25 when two up. I bet i have a shock issue.
    Different bike, too... My owner's manual doesn't recommend pressures near that high. It would be like riding my hardtail, at those pressures.
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    yah, Huck you newbie, Rubicon drivin', mall Cruisin', bling-bling, bolt-on, got no drivin skillz, drove thru a AutoZone with a crap magnet attached, H2 wannabe, poseur! Pay attention!
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    Re: Harley owners, Did you know??

    I just looked up the specs and it says my cargo weight is 474 LBs. I should be well under that, even when two up.

    Maybe I'll join a harley forum to ask some questions.
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    Re: Harley owners, Did you know??

    Quote Originally Posted by Huck View Post
    Different bike, too... My owner's manual doesn't recommend pressures near that high. It would be like riding my hardtail, at those pressures.
    I'm going to go look at my manual and see what it says. maybe I shouldn't be listening to people on stuff like this.
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    Re: Harley owners, Did you know??

    Mine says 200-250 lb rider is 50 lbs. It also says riders 250 and above or rider and passenger is 50 PSI as well. I'm going to buy a pump, document the pressure and how much I have to add weekly, then once I have some info I'll give them another call. I would hope the shocks would be covered by warranty if they are leaking.

    I do like the idea of moving the schrader valve to the shocks.
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    Re: Harley owners, Did you know??

    Quote Originally Posted by OTR-93YJ View Post
    Mine says 200-250 lb rider is 50 lbs. It also says riders 250 and above or rider and passenger is 50 PSI as well. I'm going to buy a pump, document the pressure and how much I have to add weekly, then once I have some info I'll give them another call. I would hope the shocks would be covered by warranty if they are leaking.

    I do like the idea of moving the schrader valve to the shocks.
    Now you have a solid reference point. They should warranty the shock/s, if they are bad. Pump is a great thing to have. This is what you want...



    yah, Huck you newbie, Rubicon drivin', mall Cruisin', bling-bling, bolt-on, got no drivin skillz, drove thru a AutoZone with a crap magnet attached, H2 wannabe, poseur! Pay attention!
    If you would pry your sorry arse out the Scottsdale Fashion Square once in a while you would know more about the BLM and the USFS (you do know those acronyms, right?).

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    Thanks Huck. I'm going to get one of those pumps this week. The one I've been using belongs to a friends son and it cost a lot more than the harley pump. On his, you can screw the nozzle on first then thread in the plunger to open the schrader valve. I don't see that function on the harley pump. Do you lose any pressure when taking it off?

    Also, I just watched a video about the rear air shocks having the air line that connects them together being a bad thing because when you go into a corner the inside shock get's more pressure. The air, supposedly, then transfers through the line to the other shock on the outside turn side of the bike. Sorry if it's confusing, I'm trying to put in into words what the video was saying. Do you think it's true that it works that way? On independent suspensions with the shocks tied together I can see it, but with a swing arm? Wouldn't both shocks operate the same?
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    Do you have a fuel box or programmer on the bike that could be messed up at the 0-3% throttle positions at the lower RPM columns?

    You can look for a leaking injector by removing the air filter, open the throttle to wide open, look in the runner at the rear injector, cycle the ignition switch on and off operating the pump....if the injector is leaking you will see it during the cycling of the pump coming on and off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeepPunk View Post
    Do you have a fuel box or programmer on the bike that could be messed up at the 0-3% throttle positions at the lower RPM columns?

    You can look for a leaking injector by removing the air filter, open the throttle to wide open, look in the runner at the rear injector, cycle the ignition switch on and off operating the pump....if the injector is leaking you will see it during the cycling of the pump coming on and off.
    It's stock, as far as I know, anyway. It doesn't do it the first time it's started for the day or even if it's been sitting for an hour or so. It's just after short breaks. makes me think the fuel dissipates after it sits for a while.

    I'll try what you said about looking for leaks in the "runner". Not sure what that is, but I shouldn't see any fuel leaking; i do know that.

    I haven't looked at the filter yet and I've got over 3K on it now so I can take a peak at it as well.

    Thanks.
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    Re: Harley owners, Did you know??

    The only good Factory Harley mechanics are here in Durango.....

    That's aggravating what your being told Doug. Hope you get it worked out soon!
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    Re: Harley owners, Did you know??

    Quote Originally Posted by OTR-93YJ View Post
    Thanks Huck. I'm going to get one of those pumps this week. The one I've been using belongs to a friends son and it cost a lot more than the harley pump. On his, you can screw the nozzle on first then thread in the plunger to open the schrader valve. I don't see that function on the harley pump. Do you lose any pressure when taking it off?

    Also, I just watched a video about the rear air shocks having the air line that connects them together being a bad thing because when you go into a corner the inside shock get's more pressure. The air, supposedly, then transfers through the line to the other shock on the outside turn side of the bike. Sorry if it's confusing, I'm trying to put in into words what the video was saying. Do you think it's true that it works that way? On independent suspensions with the shocks tied together I can see it, but with a swing arm? Wouldn't both shocks operate the same?
    Pump works great and is darn near, zero loss. It has a button to bleed off any overage, as well.

    I understand what you are getting at, with your narrative. I've heard folks argue this, but I've not found it to be an issue for the same reason, as you concluded. Both shocks are affixed to the same swing arm and cycle together. It is not like the airbags in my truck which are on separate lines, because if they were tied together, what you wrote above could/would happen. I always figured I would remove my separate airlines and just put new valves on each shock, when mine started leaking. That hasn't happened yet, with 49,250 on the odometer. I've also never had it feel like one shock was working differently then the other, in a corner or emergency avoidance maneuver.
    JeepPunk's advice is an easy way to check. Just do it after it has been run for a while and when it would normally exhibit the problem.
    yah, Huck you newbie, Rubicon drivin', mall Cruisin', bling-bling, bolt-on, got no drivin skillz, drove thru a AutoZone with a crap magnet attached, H2 wannabe, poseur! Pay attention!
    If you would pry your sorry arse out the Scottsdale Fashion Square once in a while you would know more about the BLM and the USFS (you do know those acronyms, right?).

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    Re: Harley owners, Did you know??

    Quote Originally Posted by OTR-93YJ View Post
    Apache on 38th and camelback has always done me right as well.

    If you got over 100K on that rear tire you're my hero! I was lucky to get 8-10K on my road star.
    Stock tire lasted 6 or 7k miles, then I switched to a Kenda tire that lasted over 20k, had much better traction in the wet, got far less punctures, and cost a lot less as well. It's the "Kruz" tire. Got pretty good at changing tubes and tires myself. I usually went through 2-3 tubs per tire, then swapped out tires.

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    Re: Harley owners, Did you know??

    Solid advice, guys, Thanks a ton. I'll be picking up my pump first part of next week. Probably do the injector test then as well.


    AIC---(for Bugs')--how did you wear out 2-3 tubes per tire?

    You're the first person I've ever heard of getting 20K on a rear tire in southern Arizona. Congrats!! Most people who move out here from back east tell stories of that kind of mileage only to see it drop to 3/4 of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aroundincircles View Post
    Stock tire lasted 6 or 7k miles, then I switched to a Kenda tire that lasted over 20k, had much better traction in the wet, got far less punctures, and cost a lot less as well. It's the "Kruz" tire. Got pretty good at changing tubes and tires myself. I usually went through 2-3 tubs per tire, then swapped out tires.
    And just to share a semi funny story about tires. When my first rear tire wore out on my first road bike (the road star) about five years ago, I took the rim off the bike and my (then) wife took it to the shop for a new tire. I installed it when I got home. 3K miles later, the tire was junk. Bald to the point is was dangerous to ride. I called the shop and they said bring it in so they could look at it. They determined that there was nothing wrong with the tire and that my riding habits must be some of the most aggressive ever! This made me proud and sad at the same time.

    So I leave the rim with them again and pick it up at the end of the day. As I'm paying for it and BS'ing with the guy at the counter, the mechanic (that I know personally) says "I've never seen anyone wear out a front tire that fast, you must be killer in the corners on a cruiser!!" Yep, go all the way back to the first tire change; they installed a front tire on my rear rim and since I wasn't taking the bike in, the next guys assumed it was a front rim. The 2000 RS had the same size tires F&R.

    I will say the ME880 performed the best on my road star but you cannot run them lower than posted pressures or they split in the deep tread on the side walls. The dunlop 404 was only good for 8K on the rear of that bike. I'm still waiting to see what mileage I get out of the tire on the harley.
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    Re: Harley owners, Did you know??

    Quote Originally Posted by OTR-93YJ View Post
    AIC---(for Bugs')--how did you wear out 2-3 tubes per tire?

    You're the first person I've ever heard of getting 20K on a rear tire in southern Arizona. Congrats!! Most people who move out here from back east tell stories of that kind of mileage only to see it drop to 3/4 of that.
    Nails. I would patch the tire itself, but then just replace the tube. I could get yamaha brand tubes for around 10 bucks online. Figured it was cheap insurance vs patching a tube. I actually still had a spare tube laying around when I moved last year. I think my wife finally got rid of it this summer. (got rid of my last bike in 2012 just before my first daughter was born)

    I didn't ride a very powerful bike, just a vstar 650 classic, but easily one of the more comfortable bikes I've been on, and I weighed a lot less at the time myself. It was my commuter, from maricopa up to phx, so not a lot of 2 up, and not a heavy load and a lot of highway miles, I developed pretty good flat spots on the tires, but they lasted around 20k miles.

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    (knocking on wood as I speak) I've yet to have a flat tire.
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