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    Tonto National Forest Travel Management Plan Updates

    The Tonto National Forest is releasing the draft environmental impact statement as part of compliance with the Travel Management Rule, which requires that all National Forest System lands designate roads, trails, and areas for motor vehicle travel.

    The Tonto National Forest will be posing a Notice of Availability of the Draft Environmental Impact Statement (DEIS) for the Travel Management Project in the Federal Register, which will begin the 45-day public review and comment period. The DEIS provides the public an opportunity to learn about and participate in the federal decision-making process. In asking for your input, please consider the following questions:
    • Are there effects to resources or the environment that should be analyzed?
    • Are there different alternatives to those analyzed that should be considered?
    • Is there any relevant information or data we should know about that could cause changes or revisions to one or more of the alternatives analyzed?
    • Are the methodologies for or assumptions used adequate or is there additional information we should consider?
    How to access the DEIS:
    • View and download a copy at http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/tonto/...FSBDEV3_018761
    • Review a copy at public libraries in Globe, Cave Creek, Payson, Young, and select Mesa and Phoenix locations or at the Forest Supervisor’s Office or Ranger District Offices.
    • Request a CD version by calling (602) 225-5213
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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Unmanaged recreation has been identified by the Forest Service as one of four ―key threats to the nation‘s forests and grasslands. The use of OHVs (Off Highway Vehicles) is seen as a major component of unmanaged use (U.S. Forest Service, 2006). During the past ten years, OHV use has increased dramatically across the nation and on millions of acres of public land in the Western United States. In Arizona, OHV use has increased by 347 percent since 1998 (Arizona Game and Fish Department 2013)), outpacing existing funding to manage that growth, protect natural resources, and maintain safe and reasonable recreational access. 1
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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Overall, Alternative B proposes almost 2,400 miles less of motorized routes open to the public than currently exists.
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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Table 13: Capital Investment Projects 1986- 2011
    Year............Project
    1986...........Water Users Parking Phase 1
    1986...........Sheep Bridge Phase I
    1987...........Water Users Parking Phase 2
    1987...........Lower Salt/Canyon Lake Traffic Control
    1987...........Sheep Bridge 2
    1990...........Water Users Parking Phase 3
    1990...........Burnt Corral Campground Phase 1
    1990...........Coon Bluff Campground Phase 1
    1990...........Granite Reef/Lower Salt Traffic Control
    1991...........Roosevelt Lake VIC Exhibits
    1991...........Tortilla Flat Campground Phase I
    1991............Palo Verde Picnic Ground
    1991............Acacia Picnic Ground
    1991............Apache Lake Observation Site
    1991............Bartlett Lake Complex
    1992............Houston Mesa Campground Phase 1
    1993............Rattlesnake Picnic Ground Phase 1
    1993............Houston Mesa Campground Phase 2
    1994............Houston Mesa Equestrian Site Phase 1
    1994............Houston Mesa Equestrian Site Phase 2
    1995............Houston Mesa Campground Phase 3
    1995............Wilderness Trailheads Phase 1
    1995............Wilderness Trailhead Phase 2
    1995............Rattlesnake Picnic Ground Phase 2A
    1996............Rattlesnake Picnic Ground Phase 2B
    1997............Roosevelt Lake VIS Exhibits
    1998............Bartlett Flat Complex Phase 1
    1999............Tortilla/Ponderosa Campground Rehab
    2000............Blue Point Picnic Ground Phase 1
    2000............Bartlett Flat Complex Phase 2A
    2001............Blue Point Picnic Ground Phase 2
    2002............SB Cove Picnic Ground
    2002............Ponderosa Campground Rehab
    2002............Bushnell Tanks Family Campground
    2003............Foxtail Recreation Site
    2003............Mesa RD Toilet Replacements
    2003............Upper Canyon Creek Group Site
    2004............Water Users Package Phase 4
    2004............Tortilla Flat CG Phase 2
    2005............Timber Camp Campgrounds
    2006............Haigler Creek Campground
    2007............B&C Wastewater Systems
    2008............Saguaro del Norte Parking/Picnic Ground
    2008............Seven Spring Complex
    2009............Haigler Creek Campground (Phase 2)
    2009............Sycamore OHV Staging
    2010............Needle Rock Day Use Site Phase 1 (Verde River)
    Currently there are no designated motorized trails on the Tonto National Forest. The budget allocated to maintain trails is currently, and has been historically, used to maintain non-motorized trails. However, as indicated in the NVUM survey results, many visitors to the Tonto National Forest believe they are recreating on motorized trails;
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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    2 members and 5 guests browsing this... I'm going to set aside some time tomorrow to read through the Assessment.

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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Good info bud, thanks for sharing

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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Here we go.
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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Does anybody familiar with this stuff know the difference between a decommissioned route and a closed route? To me, they both say there will be thousands of miles of roads/trails not available to use. Was there a list of what routes would be affected? I didn't see one, but I just scanned over the first hundred pages or so.

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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy View Post
    decommissioned route and a closed route?
    just a guess but decommissioned would mean that its not being maintained anymore. Closed is no motor traffic what so ever.

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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    I believe decommisioning involves some sort of work to return the road to its previous state- meaning pre-road. So destroying grades and planting might be involved.
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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Quote Originally Posted by Xiled1 View Post
    I believe decommisioning involves some sort of work to return the road to its previous state- meaning pre-road. So destroying grades and planting might be involved.
    Why would they just not call that "Closed"? Do they just not want to say they are closing access our publics lands?


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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy View Post
    Why would they just not call that "Closed"? Do they just not want to say they are closing access our publics lands?


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    These sasholes have forgotten it's our land and they are supposed to manage it for us to use. Not close it because more people are using it. They are such dweebs. They freely admit the number of OHV users has grown and yet they want to close trails???
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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Right. They say users went up 600% well, doesn't that also mean the revenue from fees and taxes also went up. That should allow them opportunity to manage the resource.


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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    These .gov agencies are real good at spending tons of money for what they want and then crying poor mouth when it comes to what we want. The tonto seems to be taking a very hard line against the OHV users. Even more so than the coconino did.
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    Re: Tonto National Forest Travel Management Draft Environmental Impact Statement

    Just remember these are the people you're going up against...

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