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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    Looks like it will be a nice little grocery getter.

    Good find!
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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    Thanks Guys! This is really fun and interesting researching these old jeeps. I uncovered the tub S/N hidden under several coats of paint along with the engine S/N.

    Apparently this jeep has what's called a composite body. Apparently in 1944 the American Central Manufacturing Corporation who manufactured the bodies for Willys, started making the bodies for Ford because Ford at the time couldn't produce enough of their own for some reason. So Willys, Ford, and the Army Ordnance Department agreed to have ACMC make a common body (composite) for both jeep manufacturers. So the composite body is Willys from the cowling back with Ford front fenders and hood. Willys (MB) put their engines and specific parts on their Jeeps and Ford (GPW) did the same.

    I came across this when I started researching the differences between the Willys MB and the Ford GPW and started looking at my own jeep. I noticed everything was matching for the Willys except the hood and front tub gussets which were characteristic of Ford GPW. I thought this was a salvaged jeep and started to become a little disappointed until my research.

    Another interesting thing I found out is the engine serial numbers on these jeeps almost never match up to the frame S/N because during the war, they used the same engines in generators and other equipment so they would just yank the engine from the assembly line when needed to fulfill those requirements.

    I also spoke to a contact of mine at the MVD concerning the title showing it as a 1946 and he will be doing a level 1 inspection on it Friday to correct the title error. He agreed with me that it is a 1945 because they stopped manufacturing MB's when the war ended in the summer of 45. My particular jeep was manufactured in April 45 just before the end of the war.

    Pretty cool huh!
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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    SWEET... Congrats on the find... Good to see it going to someone who appreciates the fact that it is a survivor, and is interested in getting it back to minimally a semblance of it's original form.

    In my experience, it is indeed a rare find in such good condition, and I can assure you that the folks active in the military vehicle restorer societies, would be drooling over such a find...
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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    Mike,

    Thank you for restoring this nice old find.

    I also want to thank you for sharing about your research, I have been restoring old vehicles for a while, and I always find the research interesting, but even more so on this military specimen.

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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    gotta love the interent it makes it real easy to find old stuff

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    by the way like that air filter system even if it isn't stock was thinking of doing that to my ol 47

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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    They can be a challenging project, and lots of fun. My dad's had an MB as his DD, since 1986. Two rebuilds later, it's still puttin' along.

    You'll have to see if you can get an original windshield frame for it.

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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    Nice project!

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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    I love the sound of the old Go Devil engine, I can't wait until I can fire mine up.
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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    10/4 on the sound mine runs (and sounds) great has only 35000 orig. miles just needs everything else someday I'll have a brand new 60 year old jeep.

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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    Update on my restoration project.

    First of all I had the jeep inspected at the MVD and it is officially a 1945 Willys MB.

    I've been doing a lot of research and find it very interesting. In an attempt to find it's history I wanted to see if it had any of the original serial numbers (hood numbers) underneath the layers of civilian paint before I strip it down to bare metal. So I took paint stripper and slowly stripped each layer. This method is used frequently within the military vehicle community. If done correctly it will allow you to uncover the original hood numbers or any other military markings on the vehicle. Unfortunately most of the original OD paint had been sanded away and no markings were left.







    I've also been spending alot time underneath the jeep inspecting it for cracks and other major defects. I noticed the pintle hook support brace was broken on the driver's side. Not a big deal and they have remanufactured ones you can buy. The rest of the tub and frame look pretty solid and no major rust.



    I removed the aftermarket bumper, which will be replaced by correct bumperettes. I will have to replace the rear cross member also. About $90 for a new one.



    After researching I found out the windshield is most likely from a CJ2, so this one will be a wall oranment in my Jeep Room.

    I had it sandblasted before figuring out it wasn't for an MB.


    Scraping a little of the loose paint under the fender wells and frame revealed the original OD paint underneath. Exciting Stuff!



    Now I'm in the process of stripping the paint down to bare metal and removing the bondo. I'm trying to save as much money as possible so I'm doing most of it myself before I send it to the sandblaster.
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    I've also have been trying to decide on what theme the jeep will be when completed, as far as Army, Air Force, etc.

    Since I'm retired Air Force and my father was Air Force, I decided to make it an Air Force Jeep with his old unit's markings on it. So I dug up some old photos of my father when he was an Air Policeman stationed in Germany between 1951 and 1953 with the 603rd AC&W Air Police Squadron.

    Here's my Dad behind the machine gun. He said all the jeeps were still OD over there at the time. So it will be OD with the U.S.A.F markings on it.

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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    Nice find man!! I been lookin around online for some parts that Im thinkin bout buying for my 56 since some of the rubber on some bushings is gone. Found this cool site and the parts arent expensive either. Check it out!

    http://www.kaiserwillys.com/

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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    Anyway to find out where that jeep was used based on S/N?
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    Re: My New 45 Willys MB

    Quote Originally Posted by MALLCRAWLER06 View Post
    Nice find man!! I been lookin around online for some parts that Im thinkin bout buying for my 56 since some of the rubber on some bushings is gone. Found this cool site and the parts arent expensive either. Check it out!

    http://www.kaiserwillys.com/
    Thank's for the info! Have you checked this one out yet?

    http://willysoverland.com/
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