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    What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    The plan is to have a Willys Wagon as a daily driver with an automatic tranny, power steering, power brakes, upgraded axles, air conditioning, and a diesel engine.

    The idea is to drop the Willys Body on a truck or suv frame.

    I am wondering what diesel truck or SUV would be a good donor for this?

    Have not decided yet whether to go for a somestic V-8 diesel with 3/4 or one ton rating, or to go with a smaller foriegn diesel truck or SUV.

    I had considered boxing the frame of a Willys Wagon and then doing all the mods like with my 53 Willys Pickup but this seems a cheaper, simpler, and less time consuming way to go.

    Let me know what you think good donor vehicles would be.

    This will be at least a two year project, and plan to start with a junk yard Diesel Truck or SUV unless a great deal on one comes up.

    Tom
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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    Hey Tom, you were at the BBQ yesterday right? Too bad I didn't get a chance to meet you and chat with you about your pickup.

    Did you still have any of those parts? I am probably going to get some more done on the disassembly of my truck here in a few weeks when my dad is visiting.

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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    Yes I was there at the BBQ.

    Maybe your 55 and my 53 will be there next year?

    I drove my dads GMC pickup as my 53 is almost out of the shop.

    I'm the guy that brought the tables and chairs that belong to Josh.

    I won a $25 gift certificate!!!

    The T-90 transmission is sold to a guy I think in Casa Grande.

    Still have the spicer 18 transfer with Koenig PTO.

    Rear bumper is still available.

    Original seats are still in it. The ones I planned to use won't fit so I am looking into something different.

    In the mean time I need to at least get lap belts that will work with the original seat.

    All this is at Desert Fab if you want to check it out.

    How goes the work on the 55?


    Tom
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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    The work on the '55 is slowwwww... unfortunately the Cherokee has been gobbling up a lot of the funds that were supposed to be for the truck.

    My parents are coming out for a few weeks at Christmas time and I know my dad can't wait to get some more work done on it. I hope to get the cab off the frame and maybe get the engine pulled off too so I can send it off to get rebuilt, blueprinted, etc.

    I am still interested in the original seats but in no way am I in need of them right away.

    It would be great if I could get the truck ready by next year's BBQ but not sure that will happen. Perhaps the following year.

    PS: Thanks for bringing the tables and chairs!

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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    Put it on a ram 2500 frame 5.9 cummins..need I say more??

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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    whats the length of the willys?

    i still wanna see someone drop the 4cyl CAT engine in a jeep.
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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    jason thats so last quarter
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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    hey tom how bout a liberty crd?
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    I use AC. I also look really hawt in a mini skirt and f me heels.
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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by xjstocker View Post
    hey tom how bout a liberty crd?
    HAHA.....

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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    I would think that measuring the mounting points on the old Wagon would be a good place to start. The wheelbase would also need to be considered if you want to center the axles in the wheel wells. I have seen some hack jobs where they just welded an el camino on top of a truck frame, but to do the job right, wouldn't you want to use something that fits the body?
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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    The deisel part pretty much limits your choices to 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. I bet it would take a lot of fab on the frame to make it fit the Willy's body. Have you searched the internet to see if someone else has done it. It would be much easier to copy someone else's project than to try to figure it out on your own.

    I think the cheapest option would be a 1st gen Dodge CTD (late 80's/early 90's). Anything can be done. A friend of mine fit a Scout 2 body on a 1 ton Chevy frame. Another friend of mine fit a Cj5 on a J10(that one didn't turn out as good as the Scout though). One of my fabricator buddies did a TTB in an S-10 and also grafted an OLD Suburban onto a new Duramax Chevy truck for customers. I saw all these projects being done 1st hand and they all took a lot of work to get right. Take your time and make it look good. You don't want people on every 4x4 board in the world laughing at your ride. Don't embarrass the Arizona 'wheeling community with a hack job.

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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    By the sounds, it may indeed be easier to just box up the frame and fab your own mounts than trying to find a suitable frame.

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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by TRobertsRN View Post
    I had considered boxing the frame of a Willys Wagon and then doing all the mods like with my 53 Willys Pickup but this seems a cheaper, simpler, and less time consuming way to go.


    Tom
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    PM me. I have a diesel Willys Wagon project in the works, plus a 1st gen Dodge Cummins Chassis sitting in the queue. It might be good to get some measurements and real advice before jumping into your project.

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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    Sorry guys, but I can't help but notice the wording on this. Roberts is a Registered Nurse and uses the words "donor" for finding a chassi (sp) for his project.... too cute.

    Just make sure you match up the oil types - I'd hate to see you put ab negative lube oil in with your O Positive.....
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    Re: What would be a good Donor for a Willys Wagon upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by TRobertsRN View Post
    The plan is to have a Willys Wagon as a daily driver with an automatic tranny, power steering, power brakes, upgraded axles, air conditioning, and a diesel engine.

    The idea is to drop the Willys Body on a truck or suv frame.

    I am wondering what diesel truck or SUV would be a good donor for this?

    Have not decided yet whether to go for a somestic V-8 diesel with 3/4 or one ton rating, or to go with a smaller foriegn diesel truck or SUV.

    I had considered boxing the frame of a Willys Wagon and then doing all the mods like with my 53 Willys Pickup but this seems a cheaper, simpler, and less time consuming way to go.

    Let me know what you think good donor vehicles would be.

    This will be at least a two year project, and plan to start with a junk yard Diesel Truck or SUV unless a great deal on one comes up.

    Tom
    Tom,

    Here's the Cheapest way!!

    http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/showthread.php?t=27567

    Dave

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