I'm obviously new here, so I'll thank you guys in advance for your help.
Here is my situation. A family friend has a 4 cylinder 91 wrangler that he wants to get rid of. I'm debating buying it from him, but it is hard to put a value on it due to the work it needs.
I've spent a few minutes eyeballing it, but it is in a bit of a remote location so a thorough examination wasn't possible.
It has been sitting outside here in AZ for somewhere between 3 and 4 years. I'd guess that 3 of those years it was covered with a tarp. Needless to say the seats have been thoroughly soaked and would need to be replaced. It has no top to speak of.
The paint is in surprisingly good shape for the time it has been sitting. I saw no visible rust, or signs of rust bubbles on the body.
Mechanically it was parked because of a problem with the rear differential. The owner said something about a sliding pin or some such. I'm not sure what he had in mind, but even if the differential needs replacement it isn't that big a deal. As far as the engine goes, he thinks it will start but we didn't have the time to yank a battery and test it out. It could be blown, or it could start right up.
Any thoughts? I want to be fair to the owner, but I also want a cheap jeep
Here are the pictures I took.
I can provide the full size shots if it would provide some insight.
HONOR KEVIN-HARNESS UP!!!
I've done some research so far, KBB quotes 4300 for a "fair" condition 91 4cyl. That seems to be a few hundred dollars high compared to what people are asking.
I've found non running YJ's from 500-2000 so far.
No more than $2k
looks like it needs a lot of love!!
We have another Jeep!
Right, but fair condition is as low as KBB goes, so I used that as my starting point. Fair is basically your daily driven vehicle, needs some mechanical work, needs some paint works and could need some interior. Sitting outside for 4 years drops anything into poor I would think.
I was hoping for somewhere between 1,000-1,500.
Ryan, to be honest I don't often see YJ's sell for under $3,000. Most sell closer to the 4K-5K range. From the pics it looks like the jeep is in good shape with low miles. It may not need much to get running again, but then again who knows. I'd be careful offering him $1500, he may take offense to a low ball offer.
Check craigslist.com and punch in YJ in the search function. This will give you a good idea of what these jeeps are selling for.
I bought my 93 for 3K. cosmetically similar to yours but in good running condition. If its been sitting for three years its got lots of minor problems, none of which should be deal breakers. Also if its been sitting 3yr because of a rearend problem he's not that fond of it. If it starts offer 2k. If it cranks but doesn't start 1.5K. If it won't crank decide if its worth the work you'll
have to put into it.
Offer like $800, but dont pay over $1500. New rear end, new seats, new carpet. I am sure engine has limited life with all the moisture that has been in it. I am sure seals are all dried up. If it has auto there is another list of problems if it has been sitting for 3 to 4 years. You could be getting into a lot of work, dont go on looks alone. Yes the paint looks though.
Thanks for the input guys, I appreciate it.
I have many of the comparable autotrader, craigslist and random forum posts booked marked already. Does anyone have a suggestion for a regional forum to check for posts on? I realize forum prices will probably tend to be higher.
My neighbor sold his 91 to one of the guys here! It was in awsome shape! Ran great! Good tires! No leaks! He wheeled it that weekend!
Offer him $1000!!
We have another Jeep!
It looks like I'll be picking it up this weekend, possibly tomorrow even.
Last edited by rkroel; 07-16-2009 at 04:33 PM.
I was going to say $500 due to the uncertainty. I think you should have gave him a longer period for the 250. Perhaps after a week or month. You will see seals/hoses that can't take the pressure or have deteriorated that will start to show after a couple of trips to the Autozone... You will see the big failures right away.
Being on a forum does not make you elite.
That's a good point. I doubt he will be in any hurry so it shouldn't be a problem.
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