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18070 From: tom le <tomle_85024@y...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:36pm
Subject: RE: Hi-Way to Hell
Ross,
I would love to tag along if it happens to be the
following weekend or later since I've already planned
to go skiing at Sunrise this coming weekend.
Hopefully, this will build up my level of confidency
before I will run this trail with my own rig.
Tom
'94 ZJ "big flex"
--- Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...> wrote:
> I was thinking of do H2H in a week or two.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flatfenderman@a...
> [mailto:flatfenderman@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:51 PM
> To: yldkat55@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Hi-Way to Hell
>
>
> Bill,
> H2H is still up in the air, but I will let you know
> when we go. I'd love to
> have you along for the ride. I know how it is when
> you've got a jeep down to
>
> make improvements. Besides I'd like to hear first
> hand how your project is
> going. Have you seen the CJ2A frame that Jim Allen
> is rebuilding? If not
> check it out on my All Off Road site at,
> www.azrocks.alloffraod.com
> Its a more traditional approach than your project,
> but it is turning out
> sweet.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
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18071 From: Ralph Williams <ralph@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:38pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
I have seen a ZJ like that it Tucson....shameful. Is even four
wheel drive.
Probably drags on a speed bump. Couldn't tell if he has skid
plates on it, if he doesn't, I bet he wishes he did.
Ralph
k7ant Bill Witt wrote:
>
> Do you live in Tucson? Every time I go down there I see some 4x4 with
> big wide tires with low profiles, like on an indy racer......this is
> disgusting looking!
> Bill
> Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona. God and 4wheelers' country!
>
> "Chris R." wrote:
> >
> > What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
> > ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
> > me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
> > so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
> > Jeeps the help they need.
> >
> > Chris
> > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > My1stJeep@e...
> > '97 TJ
> > ___
> > [___]
> > -(O|||||O)-
> > =======
> > [||]----O--[||]
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
> > fool forever."
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
> >
> > > I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> > > front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> > > stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
> > >
> > > Linda
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________ _____
> > Send a cool gift with your E-Card
> > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
18072 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:40pm
Subject: RE: Hi-Way to Hell
Hey, you did great on Axel Alley. I would not have thought that ZJ would do
so well. I will look at my calendar and see which weekends look the best.
I have taken a weekend off, now I am ready to go break something :-)
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: tom le [mailto:tomle_85024@y...]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:37 PM
To: Ross Skinner; AZVJC (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Hi-Way to Hell
Ross,
I would love to tag along if it happens to be the
following weekend or later since I've already planned
to go skiing at Sunrise this coming weekend.
Hopefully, this will build up my level of confidency
before I will run this trail with my own rig.
Tom
'94 ZJ "big flex"
--- Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...> wrote:
> I was thinking of do H2H in a week or two.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flatfenderman@a...
> [mailto:flatfenderman@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:51 PM
> To: yldkat55@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Hi-Way to Hell
>
>
> Bill,
> H2H is still up in the air, but I will let you know
> when we go. I'd love to
> have you along for the ride. I know how it is when
> you've got a jeep down to
>
> make improvements. Besides I'd like to hear first
> hand how your project is
> going. Have you seen the CJ2A frame that Jim Allen
> is rebuilding? If not
> check it out on my All Off Road site at,
> www.azrocks.alloffraod.com
> Its a more traditional approach than your project,
> but it is turning out
> sweet.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
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18073 From: <clinttravis@q...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:55pm
Subject: Looking for a Ramsey Hawse fairlead
I am buying a Ramsey REP 8000lb winch and need a Hawse fairlead for
it.
Thanks,
Clint 480 777-0665
18074 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:57pm
Subject: Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
I know this has probably been covered many times, but here's the questions
again...
Looking for a suspension lift for a '01 TJ. I want to run 33's. This is a
daily driver, so highway handling must be good, but pretty decent off-road
as well. I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail as
the most difficult.
I'm leaning towards the Rubicon Express 3" Superflex kit, and an adjustable
track bar. But the 3" TeraFlex kit and adjustable trackbar is still an
option. I wanted to hear your opinions before I decide. Thoughts?
For now, I hope to get away with just lowering the transfer case (or not)
for a couple months. Once I replenish my pocket book, I'm thinking of a JB
SYE and CV shaft. Longer term, I may go with a TeraLow 4:1. Any problems
with the JB SYE and TeraLow together? Other suggestions in this area? (Atlas
is probably overkill for me)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
Larry Farquhar
'75 CJ5 (For Sale)
'01 TJ
18075 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:20pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Upper) - Saturday, January 27, 2001
Hello All,
This is an automated message from the website, please do not reply to it!
Rick Norman lead a trail run Saturday, January 27, 2001 across Terminator (Upper)
Wow, what a day! Rain, rain and more rain (and snow). Are we in Arizona?? 5 Jeeps met at the Table Mesa exit. Myself and co-pilot Jake (XJ), Randy D. (YJ), James T. (TJ), Todd (TJ), and Jim F (stock YJ). With snow on the hills above Table Mesa Rd, and rain on our windshields, we set out for Upper Terminator.
Once at the first obstacle, we found there was just enough water to make things interesting, but not too much, so we pressed on. Upper Terminator is made up of one waterfall after another, with plenty of big rocks in between. Most of the waterfalls are of the 2-3 foot variety, but with 2 feet of water in front of them, they are much more intimidating.
The run was very uneventful, and with everyone making it look easy, we found ourselves at the last obstacle at around 12:00 pm. The only damage sustained was a broken shock bar pin and a couple mangled side steps on a TJ (he didn't need those anyway).
Because it was early, we decided to continue on past the first turnout, and run the "upper" section of upper terminator. There are a few pretty large waterfalls, but we all made it through no problem.
After getting back to the road, we decided to take a look at Predator. But with all of us soaked to the bone (except Jim), and none of us prepared for body damage, we headed back to air up and get some beer and food in New River.
That never happened. We came upon a guy standing on the side of the road, soaking wet and muddy. He said he was stuck down by the river in his ford truck. We ended up giving him a ride to his truck, and tried unsucessfully, to pull him from the mud. There was no way we were getting him out. The mud had made our tires like racing slicks. From down the river came a tow truck (the guy's wife must have known we wouldnt get him out and called for help), but he got stuck before he could make it to us. While waiting for him to get unstuck, we watched 3 or 4 others (chevys, fords, nissans, and toyotas) get stuck. You just gotta love driving a Jeep!! They finally got the winch hooked up the the stuck ford, but after breaking a chain and Jim's strap, we decided to get the heck outta there. It didnt look too good for the guy. I later found out that they did indeed get him out.
Once back to the highway, we decided just to head home to our nice hot showers. What a day! I cant wait for the next one..........
Click Here for more Information and to View Pictures
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
18076 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:24pm
Subject: RE: Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
Larry,
What you are suggesting to run 33" tires should work fine. Both Tera and RE
make good lifts, along with a few others that are not quite as popular.
With the addition of a Tera 4:1 you certainly will be able to handle more
than a 3.5 type trail <grin> Maybe you need to plan for 35" tires? LOL!
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Farquhar [mailto:lfar@h...]
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 17:57
>To: Az_Vjc
>Subject: [az_vjc] Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
>
>
>I know this has probably been covered many times, but here's the questions
>again...
>
>Looking for a suspension lift for a '01 TJ. I want to run 33's. This is a
>daily driver, so highway handling must be good, but pretty decent off-road
>as well. I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail as
>the most difficult.
>
>I'm leaning towards the Rubicon Express 3" Superflex kit, and an adjustable
>track bar. But the 3" TeraFlex kit and adjustable trackbar is still an
>option. I wanted to hear your opinions before I decide. Thoughts?
>
>For now, I hope to get away with just lowering the transfer case (or not)
>for a couple months. Once I replenish my pocket book, I'm thinking of a JB
>SYE and CV shaft. Longer term, I may go with a TeraLow 4:1. Any problems
>with the JB SYE and TeraLow together? Other suggestions in this
>area? (Atlas
>is probably overkill for me)
>
>Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
>Larry Farquhar
>'75 CJ5 (For Sale)
>'01 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18077 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:26pm
Subject: Anyone have Experience with RUNCK bumpers
These bumpers wrap around the back with corner shields and appear to be
really well made (it shows in the price $389). They are fabbed out of 3/16
not 1/8 like most so they should be pretty indestructible. Anybody have
these or know someone who does? I need a rear bumper but these are close to
Road Armour in price.
Rick
18078 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:38pm
Subject: Re: [ZJ] Re: ZJ OBA write-up
It requires an oiler so the compressor will require occassional
maintenance.
Linda
chiena wrote:
>
> "chiena" <chiena@e...> writes:
>
> Niece job on the custom bracket. Is that compressor self lubricated or do
> you have some type of oiler for it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> To: "zj-list" <zj-list@m...>; "az_vjc"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "xj_az" <arizonaXJ@egroups.com>; "graham, steve"
> <stevegraham@w...>
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:37 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] ZJ OBA write-up
>
> > As some of you know Steve and I have been working on installing an
> > on-board air compressor in my ZJ for the past week. The project is
> > coming together nicely, but a lot more work needs to be done. We hope to
> > have it done by the end of the week. The OBA might be functional for the
> > upcoming Miner's Revenge trail ride -- I hope!
> >
> > Anyway, I started a webpage which describes what it has taken to get the
> > compressor in. The page is not complete, but I will update it as the
> > project progresses. Right now the battery relocation and compressor
> > bracket fabrication and installation are the only topics covered. The
> > webpage does not cover all the options that Steve and I considered and
> > threw out.
> >
> > http://home.att.net/~minihummer/ZJ_topics/oba.html
> >
> > Linda
> > 93 ZJ -- slightly modified
> >
> >
> >
>
> ->END<------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Subscription changes: http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/jeeplists.htm
18079 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 6:23pm
Subject: Re: Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
Tastes Great! Less Filling!
Both are excellent, and represent (IMO) the best out there.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...>
To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:57 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
> I know this has probably been covered many times, but here's the questions
> again...
>
> Looking for a suspension lift for a '01 TJ. I want to run 33's. This is a
> daily driver, so highway handling must be good, but pretty decent off-road
> as well. I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail
as
> the most difficult.
>
> I'm leaning towards the Rubicon Express 3" Superflex kit, and an
adjustable
> track bar. But the 3" TeraFlex kit and adjustable trackbar is still an
> option. I wanted to hear your opinions before I decide. Thoughts?
>
> For now, I hope to get away with just lowering the transfer case (or not)
> for a couple months. Once I replenish my pocket book, I'm thinking of a JB
> SYE and CV shaft. Longer term, I may go with a TeraLow 4:1. Any problems
> with the JB SYE and TeraLow together? Other suggestions in this area?
(Atlas
> is probably overkill for me)
>
> Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
> Larry Farquhar
> '75 CJ5 (For Sale)
> '01 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18080 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:04pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
Maybe we should do something like that treehugger in calif. with his bumper
stickers (the one who slaps them on while your not looking) and go around to
these poor jeeps and put like HUGE tires on em, then we could sell the hi dollar
rims they have and fund the next "rescue" !!! :-)
"Chris R." wrote:
> What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
> ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
> me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
> so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
> Jeeps the help they need.
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
> ___
> [___]
> -(O|||||O)-
> =======
> [||]----O--[||]
> ----------------------------------------------------
> "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
> fool forever."
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
>
> > I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> > front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> > stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >
>
> __________________________________________________ _____
> Send a cool gift with your E-Card
> http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
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18081 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:21pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
Maybe we should do something like that treehugger in calif. with his bumper
stickers (the one who slaps them on while your not looking) and go around to
these poor jeeps and put like HUGE tires on em, then we could sell the hi dollar
rims they have and fund the next "rescue" !!! :-)
"Chris R." wrote:
> What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
> ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
> me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
> so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
> Jeeps the help they need.
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
> ___
> [___]
> -(O|||||O)-
> =======
> [||]----O--[||]
> ----------------------------------------------------
> "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
> fool forever."
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
>
> > I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> > front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> > stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >
>
> __________________________________________________ _____
> Send a cool gift with your E-Card
> http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/
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18082 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:19pm
Subject: Member Spotting
Saw a yellow TJ with AZVJC sticker on the side this afternoon/evening at the
Superstition Springs Mall. It was around 5:00 and we were leaving from the
movie theatre area.
Pete
18083 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:13pm
Subject: Re: Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
Both lifts are good. I've got the Tera 3" and it cleared my 33s pretty well.
"I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail as the most
difficult" - Famous last words :-) (sounds like an echo of me a few
months ago)
As far as the JB and Teralow 4 to 1, I have the Tera SYA (same as the JB)
and the 4 to 1 and there are no problems using the two together. In fact,
although its not completely necessary, I'd recommend you get the JB SYE if
you are going to do the Teralow since the JB uses a thicker and stronger
output shaft.
Just my opinions,
Chris
> From: "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...>
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:57:07 -0700
> To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [az_vjc] Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
>
> I know this has probably been covered many times, but here's the questions
> again...
>
> Looking for a suspension lift for a '01 TJ. I want to run 33's. This is a
> daily driver, so highway handling must be good, but pretty decent off-road
> as well. I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail as
> the most difficult.
>
> I'm leaning towards the Rubicon Express 3" Superflex kit, and an adjustable
> track bar. But the 3" TeraFlex kit and adjustable trackbar is still an
> option. I wanted to hear your opinions before I decide. Thoughts?
>
> For now, I hope to get away with just lowering the transfer case (or not)
> for a couple months. Once I replenish my pocket book, I'm thinking of a JB
> SYE and CV shaft. Longer term, I may go with a TeraLow 4:1. Any problems
> with the JB SYE and TeraLow together? Other suggestions in this area? (Atlas
> is probably overkill for me)
>
> Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
> Larry Farquhar
> '75 CJ5 (For Sale)
> '01 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18084 From: <lwt002@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 3:36pm
Subject: Me and Chris' new TJ
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=912072&a=11273918
Christian and I went half's on a '99 TJ the other day. This one is in great
shape! It's been babied all its life!
Feel free to check it out, but don't get to jealous and be sure to stay tuned
for further 'TJ' updates!!!
Larry T.
18085 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:51pm
Subject: Re: Me and Chris' new TJ
You should see the back seat I got from these guys that was in this TJ. A
little elbow grease and I'll be sitting pretty
Chris K
> From: lwt002@a...
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:36:27 EST
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, thebean77@h..., rcordeau@q...,
> Steelesmom@a...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Me and Chris' new TJ
>
>
> <A HREF="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=912072&a=11273918">
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=912072&a=11273918</A>
>
>
> Christian and I went half's on a '99 TJ the other day. This one is in great
> shape! It's been babied all its life!
>
> Feel free to check it out, but don't get to jealous and be sure to stay tuned
> for further 'TJ' updates!!!
>
> Larry T.
>
18086 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:56pm
Subject: Warn Hubs...
Odd question, but has anyone purchased a set of warn hubs
(style/model doesn't matter) recently?? If so, I have a couple
questions. PLEASE e-mail me direct.
TIA;
--
...---===Ray===---...
http://www.sixfigureincome.com/?841576
18087 From: <mt_b@y...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:49pm
Subject: Off Topic For Sale
Not sure if it's ok to post stuff non-jeep related, but I'm trying to
sell one of my mountain bikes.
It's a 1999 Santa Cruz Bullit, built bombproof with all high end
stuff. Z1-QR20, Race Face, Hayes discs, XTR/XT.
Asking $1900.
Email me if interested.
Dan
18088 From: <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:53pm
Subject: Re: Upper Terminator, Saturday 1-27-01
And if anybody wants to see the pictures, the final postings are at:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1490598&a=11239886
http://communities.msn.com/UpperTerrminator12701
This was my first time in doing picture postings so I apologize for
the confusion. They were a good series (given the conditions) and I
wanted to get them out to the attendees.
Thanks again, Rick.
--James
18089 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:11pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
I saw a YJ a few months ago that had street tires, with wide white
walls...AND...ARE YOU READY FOR THIS????.....full size Pakcard type fenders
w/rear skirts.....it was silver w/purple fenders.....laughed so hard I
almost wrecked :)
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
I still miss my ex-wife.....but my aim IS improving
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18090 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:26pm
Subject: Re: Anyone have Experience with RUNCK bumpers
Rick....I would recommend getting hold of Pete Wirch and/or Bill Ayelsworth
(I know, I spelled it wrong)....that built me (and others) a really solid
rock bumper with swing-away carrier for less that what you just quoted for
that other bumper.....they are both in the club, just drop an email....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
I still miss my ex-wife.....but my aim IS improving
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18091 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:28pm
Subject: Re: Member Spotting
Saw a dark blue TJ Saturday at about 10:30 am pulling into the shamrock gas
station at Power and McDowell....nice ride.....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
I still miss my ex-wife.....but my aim IS improving
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18092 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:33pm
Subject: Re: Me and Chris' new TJ
Some people are just so lucky....I never find good deals like that....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
I still miss my ex-wife.....but my aim IS improving
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18093 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2001 0:40am
Subject: RE: SteelHorse Targa top
I agree with Joe. I've bought a couple different Steelwhore products and was not satisfied with any of them. Nothing I bought cost more than $25. I'd hate to see you waste more than $1k on a top from them. Everything they make either rusts out the first time water hits it, or it falls apart faster than a clump of mud under the Jeep once its in the garage.
Scott
Joe W wrote:
Hi George,
I have purchased ONE product from Steel Horse... just one.
A locking hood-latch kit.
driving down a rough dirt road... I notice that my hood is moving around. I
stop and find that the catches on the locks had failed. I pushed them down
and they clicked into place... 10 minutes later, they unlatch again.
When I got home, I took them off and threw them in the wasted money parts
bin (I have some warn fender flares in there too!).
I wouldn't purchase anything from steel horse again. Ever.
I would highly recommend that you not take the chance... find another
supplier. Bestop? Factory top? Anything but steel horse.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Andrews [mailto:gandre01@msn.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
> To: azvjc
> Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>
>
> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00
> TJ. There was a
> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
> experience with this product?
>
> George Andrews
> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> '00 TJ
> Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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18094 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2001 0:57am
Subject: Re: Anyone have Experience with RUNCK bumpers
Rick,
If you want wrap around protection, check out the bumpers from OR Fab. These are not your normal tubular bumpers. Talk with Mark and Wayne and check them out. If I hadn't already had my Bulletproof bumper when I met these guys, I would have gotten one of theirs first. And they do come powdercoated.
(602) 790-7735 OR FAB
www.o-rfab.com
Scott
Rick Hall wrote:
These bumpers wrap around the back with corner shields and appear to be
really well made (it shows in the price $389). They are fabbed out of 3/16
not 1/8 like most so they should be pretty indestructible. Anybody have
these or know someone who does? I need a rear bumper but these are close to
Road Armour in price.
Rick
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18070 From: tom le <tomle_85024@y...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:36pm
Subject: RE: Hi-Way to Hell
Ross,
I would love to tag along if it happens to be the
following weekend or later since I've already planned
to go skiing at Sunrise this coming weekend.
Hopefully, this will build up my level of confidency
before I will run this trail with my own rig.
Tom
'94 ZJ "big flex"
--- Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...> wrote:
> I was thinking of do H2H in a week or two.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flatfenderman@a...
> [mailto:flatfenderman@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:51 PM
> To: yldkat55@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Hi-Way to Hell
>
>
> Bill,
> H2H is still up in the air, but I will let you know
> when we go. I'd love to
> have you along for the ride. I know how it is when
> you've got a jeep down to
>
> make improvements. Besides I'd like to hear first
> hand how your project is
> going. Have you seen the CJ2A frame that Jim Allen
> is rebuilding? If not
> check it out on my All Off Road site at,
> www.azrocks.alloffraod.com
> Its a more traditional approach than your project,
> but it is turning out
> sweet.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
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18071 From: Ralph Williams <ralph@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:38pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
I have seen a ZJ like that it Tucson....shameful. Is even four
wheel drive.
Probably drags on a speed bump. Couldn't tell if he has skid
plates on it, if he doesn't, I bet he wishes he did.
Ralph
k7ant Bill Witt wrote:
>
> Do you live in Tucson? Every time I go down there I see some 4x4 with
> big wide tires with low profiles, like on an indy racer......this is
> disgusting looking!
> Bill
> Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona. God and 4wheelers' country!
>
> "Chris R." wrote:
> >
> > What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
> > ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
> > me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
> > so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
> > Jeeps the help they need.
> >
> > Chris
> > http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> > My1stJeep@e...
> > '97 TJ
> > ___
> > [___]
> > -(O|||||O)-
> > =======
> > [||]----O--[||]
> > ----------------------------------------------------
> > "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
> > fool forever."
> >
> > On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
> >
> > > I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> > > front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> > > stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
> > >
> > > Linda
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > __________________________________________________ _____
> > Send a cool gift with your E-Card
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18072 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:40pm
Subject: RE: Hi-Way to Hell
Hey, you did great on Axel Alley. I would not have thought that ZJ would do
so well. I will look at my calendar and see which weekends look the best.
I have taken a weekend off, now I am ready to go break something :-)
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: tom le [mailto:tomle_85024@y...]
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:37 PM
To: Ross Skinner; AZVJC (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Hi-Way to Hell
Ross,
I would love to tag along if it happens to be the
following weekend or later since I've already planned
to go skiing at Sunrise this coming weekend.
Hopefully, this will build up my level of confidency
before I will run this trail with my own rig.
Tom
'94 ZJ "big flex"
--- Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...> wrote:
> I was thinking of do H2H in a week or two.
> Ross
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: flatfenderman@a...
> [mailto:flatfenderman@a...]
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:51 PM
> To: yldkat55@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Hi-Way to Hell
>
>
> Bill,
> H2H is still up in the air, but I will let you know
> when we go. I'd love to
> have you along for the ride. I know how it is when
> you've got a jeep down to
>
> make improvements. Besides I'd like to hear first
> hand how your project is
> going. Have you seen the CJ2A frame that Jim Allen
> is rebuilding? If not
> check it out on my All Off Road site at,
> www.azrocks.alloffraod.com
> Its a more traditional approach than your project,
> but it is turning out
> sweet.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
>
>
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18073 From: <clinttravis@q...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:55pm
Subject: Looking for a Ramsey Hawse fairlead
I am buying a Ramsey REP 8000lb winch and need a Hawse fairlead for
it.
Thanks,
Clint 480 777-0665
18074 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:57pm
Subject: Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
I know this has probably been covered many times, but here's the questions
again...
Looking for a suspension lift for a '01 TJ. I want to run 33's. This is a
daily driver, so highway handling must be good, but pretty decent off-road
as well. I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail as
the most difficult.
I'm leaning towards the Rubicon Express 3" Superflex kit, and an adjustable
track bar. But the 3" TeraFlex kit and adjustable trackbar is still an
option. I wanted to hear your opinions before I decide. Thoughts?
For now, I hope to get away with just lowering the transfer case (or not)
for a couple months. Once I replenish my pocket book, I'm thinking of a JB
SYE and CV shaft. Longer term, I may go with a TeraLow 4:1. Any problems
with the JB SYE and TeraLow together? Other suggestions in this area? (Atlas
is probably overkill for me)
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
Larry Farquhar
'75 CJ5 (For Sale)
'01 TJ
18075 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:20pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Upper) - Saturday, January 27, 2001
Hello All,
This is an automated message from the website, please do not reply to it!
Rick Norman lead a trail run Saturday, January 27, 2001 across Terminator (Upper)
Wow, what a day! Rain, rain and more rain (and snow). Are we in Arizona?? 5 Jeeps met at the Table Mesa exit. Myself and co-pilot Jake (XJ), Randy D. (YJ), James T. (TJ), Todd (TJ), and Jim F (stock YJ). With snow on the hills above Table Mesa Rd, and rain on our windshields, we set out for Upper Terminator.
Once at the first obstacle, we found there was just enough water to make things interesting, but not too much, so we pressed on. Upper Terminator is made up of one waterfall after another, with plenty of big rocks in between. Most of the waterfalls are of the 2-3 foot variety, but with 2 feet of water in front of them, they are much more intimidating.
The run was very uneventful, and with everyone making it look easy, we found ourselves at the last obstacle at around 12:00 pm. The only damage sustained was a broken shock bar pin and a couple mangled side steps on a TJ (he didn't need those anyway).
Because it was early, we decided to continue on past the first turnout, and run the "upper" section of upper terminator. There are a few pretty large waterfalls, but we all made it through no problem.
After getting back to the road, we decided to take a look at Predator. But with all of us soaked to the bone (except Jim), and none of us prepared for body damage, we headed back to air up and get some beer and food in New River.
That never happened. We came upon a guy standing on the side of the road, soaking wet and muddy. He said he was stuck down by the river in his ford truck. We ended up giving him a ride to his truck, and tried unsucessfully, to pull him from the mud. There was no way we were getting him out. The mud had made our tires like racing slicks. From down the river came a tow truck (the guy's wife must have known we wouldnt get him out and called for help), but he got stuck before he could make it to us. While waiting for him to get unstuck, we watched 3 or 4 others (chevys, fords, nissans, and toyotas) get stuck. You just gotta love driving a Jeep!! They finally got the winch hooked up the the stuck ford, but after breaking a chain and Jim's strap, we decided to get the heck outta there. It didnt look too good for the guy. I later found out that they did indeed get him out.
Once back to the highway, we decided just to head home to our nice hot showers. What a day! I cant wait for the next one..........
Click Here for more Information and to View Pictures
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
18076 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:24pm
Subject: RE: Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
Larry,
What you are suggesting to run 33" tires should work fine. Both Tera and RE
make good lifts, along with a few others that are not quite as popular.
With the addition of a Tera 4:1 you certainly will be able to handle more
than a 3.5 type trail <grin> Maybe you need to plan for 35" tires? LOL!
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Larry Farquhar [mailto:lfar@h...]
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 17:57
>To: Az_Vjc
>Subject: [az_vjc] Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
>
>
>I know this has probably been covered many times, but here's the questions
>again...
>
>Looking for a suspension lift for a '01 TJ. I want to run 33's. This is a
>daily driver, so highway handling must be good, but pretty decent off-road
>as well. I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail as
>the most difficult.
>
>I'm leaning towards the Rubicon Express 3" Superflex kit, and an adjustable
>track bar. But the 3" TeraFlex kit and adjustable trackbar is still an
>option. I wanted to hear your opinions before I decide. Thoughts?
>
>For now, I hope to get away with just lowering the transfer case (or not)
>for a couple months. Once I replenish my pocket book, I'm thinking of a JB
>SYE and CV shaft. Longer term, I may go with a TeraLow 4:1. Any problems
>with the JB SYE and TeraLow together? Other suggestions in this
>area? (Atlas
>is probably overkill for me)
>
>Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
>Larry Farquhar
>'75 CJ5 (For Sale)
>'01 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18077 From: Rick Hall <ricknhall@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:26pm
Subject: Anyone have Experience with RUNCK bumpers
These bumpers wrap around the back with corner shields and appear to be
really well made (it shows in the price $389). They are fabbed out of 3/16
not 1/8 like most so they should be pretty indestructible. Anybody have
these or know someone who does? I need a rear bumper but these are close to
Road Armour in price.
Rick
18078 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:38pm
Subject: Re: [ZJ] Re: ZJ OBA write-up
It requires an oiler so the compressor will require occassional
maintenance.
Linda
chiena wrote:
>
> "chiena" <chiena@e...> writes:
>
> Niece job on the custom bracket. Is that compressor self lubricated or do
> you have some type of oiler for it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> To: "zj-list" <zj-list@m...>; "az_vjc"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "xj_az" <arizonaXJ@egroups.com>; "graham, steve"
> <stevegraham@w...>
> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:37 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] ZJ OBA write-up
>
> > As some of you know Steve and I have been working on installing an
> > on-board air compressor in my ZJ for the past week. The project is
> > coming together nicely, but a lot more work needs to be done. We hope to
> > have it done by the end of the week. The OBA might be functional for the
> > upcoming Miner's Revenge trail ride -- I hope!
> >
> > Anyway, I started a webpage which describes what it has taken to get the
> > compressor in. The page is not complete, but I will update it as the
> > project progresses. Right now the battery relocation and compressor
> > bracket fabrication and installation are the only topics covered. The
> > webpage does not cover all the options that Steve and I considered and
> > threw out.
> >
> > http://home.att.net/~minihummer/ZJ_topics/oba.html
> >
> > Linda
> > 93 ZJ -- slightly modified
> >
> >
> >
>
> ->END<------------------------------------------------------------------------
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18079 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 6:23pm
Subject: Re: Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
Tastes Great! Less Filling!
Both are excellent, and represent (IMO) the best out there.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...>
To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 5:57 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
> I know this has probably been covered many times, but here's the questions
> again...
>
> Looking for a suspension lift for a '01 TJ. I want to run 33's. This is a
> daily driver, so highway handling must be good, but pretty decent off-road
> as well. I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail
as
> the most difficult.
>
> I'm leaning towards the Rubicon Express 3" Superflex kit, and an
adjustable
> track bar. But the 3" TeraFlex kit and adjustable trackbar is still an
> option. I wanted to hear your opinions before I decide. Thoughts?
>
> For now, I hope to get away with just lowering the transfer case (or not)
> for a couple months. Once I replenish my pocket book, I'm thinking of a JB
> SYE and CV shaft. Longer term, I may go with a TeraLow 4:1. Any problems
> with the JB SYE and TeraLow together? Other suggestions in this area?
(Atlas
> is probably overkill for me)
>
> Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
> Larry Farquhar
> '75 CJ5 (For Sale)
> '01 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18080 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:04pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
Maybe we should do something like that treehugger in calif. with his bumper
stickers (the one who slaps them on while your not looking) and go around to
these poor jeeps and put like HUGE tires on em, then we could sell the hi dollar
rims they have and fund the next "rescue" !!! :-)
"Chris R." wrote:
> What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
> ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
> me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
> so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
> Jeeps the help they need.
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
> ___
> [___]
> -(O|||||O)-
> =======
> [||]----O--[||]
> ----------------------------------------------------
> "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
> fool forever."
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
>
> > I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> > front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> > stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >
>
> __________________________________________________ _____
> Send a cool gift with your E-Card
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18081 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:21pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
Maybe we should do something like that treehugger in calif. with his bumper
stickers (the one who slaps them on while your not looking) and go around to
these poor jeeps and put like HUGE tires on em, then we could sell the hi dollar
rims they have and fund the next "rescue" !!! :-)
"Chris R." wrote:
> What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
> ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
> me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
> so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
> Jeeps the help they need.
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
> ___
> [___]
> -(O|||||O)-
> =======
> [||]----O--[||]
> ----------------------------------------------------
> "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
> fool forever."
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
>
> > I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> > front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> > stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >
>
> __________________________________________________ _____
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18082 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:19pm
Subject: Member Spotting
Saw a yellow TJ with AZVJC sticker on the side this afternoon/evening at the
Superstition Springs Mall. It was around 5:00 and we were leaving from the
movie theatre area.
Pete
18083 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:13pm
Subject: Re: Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
Both lifts are good. I've got the Tera 3" and it cleared my 33s pretty well.
"I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail as the most
difficult" - Famous last words :-) (sounds like an echo of me a few
months ago)
As far as the JB and Teralow 4 to 1, I have the Tera SYA (same as the JB)
and the 4 to 1 and there are no problems using the two together. In fact,
although its not completely necessary, I'd recommend you get the JB SYE if
you are going to do the Teralow since the JB uses a thicker and stronger
output shaft.
Just my opinions,
Chris
> From: "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...>
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 17:57:07 -0700
> To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: [az_vjc] Suggested TJ Lift and SYE?
>
> I know this has probably been covered many times, but here's the questions
> again...
>
> Looking for a suspension lift for a '01 TJ. I want to run 33's. This is a
> daily driver, so highway handling must be good, but pretty decent off-road
> as well. I won't be doing any of the tougher trails, perhaps a 3.5 trail as
> the most difficult.
>
> I'm leaning towards the Rubicon Express 3" Superflex kit, and an adjustable
> track bar. But the 3" TeraFlex kit and adjustable trackbar is still an
> option. I wanted to hear your opinions before I decide. Thoughts?
>
> For now, I hope to get away with just lowering the transfer case (or not)
> for a couple months. Once I replenish my pocket book, I'm thinking of a JB
> SYE and CV shaft. Longer term, I may go with a TeraLow 4:1. Any problems
> with the JB SYE and TeraLow together? Other suggestions in this area? (Atlas
> is probably overkill for me)
>
> Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience!
> Larry Farquhar
> '75 CJ5 (For Sale)
> '01 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18084 From: <lwt002@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 3:36pm
Subject: Me and Chris' new TJ
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=912072&a=11273918
Christian and I went half's on a '99 TJ the other day. This one is in great
shape! It's been babied all its life!
Feel free to check it out, but don't get to jealous and be sure to stay tuned
for further 'TJ' updates!!!
Larry T.
18085 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:51pm
Subject: Re: Me and Chris' new TJ
You should see the back seat I got from these guys that was in this TJ. A
little elbow grease and I'll be sitting pretty
Chris K
> From: lwt002@a...
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 23:36:27 EST
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, thebean77@h..., rcordeau@q...,
> Steelesmom@a...
> Subject: [az_vjc] Me and Chris' new TJ
>
>
> <A HREF="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=912072&a=11273918">
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=912072&a=11273918</A>
>
>
> Christian and I went half's on a '99 TJ the other day. This one is in great
> shape! It's been babied all its life!
>
> Feel free to check it out, but don't get to jealous and be sure to stay tuned
> for further 'TJ' updates!!!
>
> Larry T.
>
18086 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:56pm
Subject: Warn Hubs...
Odd question, but has anyone purchased a set of warn hubs
(style/model doesn't matter) recently?? If so, I have a couple
questions. PLEASE e-mail me direct.
TIA;
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18087 From: <mt_b@y...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:49pm
Subject: Off Topic For Sale
Not sure if it's ok to post stuff non-jeep related, but I'm trying to
sell one of my mountain bikes.
It's a 1999 Santa Cruz Bullit, built bombproof with all high end
stuff. Z1-QR20, Race Face, Hayes discs, XTR/XT.
Asking $1900.
Email me if interested.
Dan
18088 From: <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:53pm
Subject: Re: Upper Terminator, Saturday 1-27-01
And if anybody wants to see the pictures, the final postings are at:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1490598&a=11239886
http://communities.msn.com/UpperTerrminator12701
This was my first time in doing picture postings so I apologize for
the confusion. They were a good series (given the conditions) and I
wanted to get them out to the attendees.
Thanks again, Rick.
--James
18089 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:11pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
I saw a YJ a few months ago that had street tires, with wide white
walls...AND...ARE YOU READY FOR THIS????.....full size Pakcard type fenders
w/rear skirts.....it was silver w/purple fenders.....laughed so hard I
almost wrecked :)
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
I still miss my ex-wife.....but my aim IS improving
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18090 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:26pm
Subject: Re: Anyone have Experience with RUNCK bumpers
Rick....I would recommend getting hold of Pete Wirch and/or Bill Ayelsworth
(I know, I spelled it wrong)....that built me (and others) a really solid
rock bumper with swing-away carrier for less that what you just quoted for
that other bumper.....they are both in the club, just drop an email....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
I still miss my ex-wife.....but my aim IS improving
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18091 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:28pm
Subject: Re: Member Spotting
Saw a dark blue TJ Saturday at about 10:30 am pulling into the shamrock gas
station at Power and McDowell....nice ride.....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
I still miss my ex-wife.....but my aim IS improving
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18092 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 10:33pm
Subject: Re: Me and Chris' new TJ
Some people are just so lucky....I never find good deals like that....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
I still miss my ex-wife.....but my aim IS improving
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18093 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2001 0:40am
Subject: RE: SteelHorse Targa top
I agree with Joe. I've bought a couple different Steelwhore products and was not satisfied with any of them. Nothing I bought cost more than $25. I'd hate to see you waste more than $1k on a top from them. Everything they make either rusts out the first time water hits it, or it falls apart faster than a clump of mud under the Jeep once its in the garage.
Scott
Joe W wrote:
Hi George,
I have purchased ONE product from Steel Horse... just one.
A locking hood-latch kit.
driving down a rough dirt road... I notice that my hood is moving around. I
stop and find that the catches on the locks had failed. I pushed them down
and they clicked into place... 10 minutes later, they unlatch again.
When I got home, I took them off and threw them in the wasted money parts
bin (I have some warn fender flares in there too!).
I wouldn't purchase anything from steel horse again. Ever.
I would highly recommend that you not take the chance... find another
supplier. Bestop? Factory top? Anything but steel horse.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Andrews [mailto:gandre01@msn.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
> To: azvjc
> Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
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> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00
> TJ. There was a
> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
> experience with this product?
>
> George Andrews
> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> '00 TJ
> Avondale Arizona
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18094 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Jan 30, 2001 0:57am
Subject: Re: Anyone have Experience with RUNCK bumpers
Rick,
If you want wrap around protection, check out the bumpers from OR Fab. These are not your normal tubular bumpers. Talk with Mark and Wayne and check them out. If I hadn't already had my Bulletproof bumper when I met these guys, I would have gotten one of theirs first. And they do come powdercoated.
(602) 790-7735 OR FAB
www.o-rfab.com
Scott
Rick Hall wrote:
These bumpers wrap around the back with corner shields and appear to be
really well made (it shows in the price $389). They are fabbed out of 3/16
not 1/8 like most so they should be pretty indestructible. Anybody have
these or know someone who does? I need a rear bumper but these are close to
Road Armour in price.
Rick
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