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18045 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 11:52am
Subject: Re: ZJ OBA write-up
Niece job on the custom bracket. Is that compressor self lubricated or do
you have some type of oiler for it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
To: "zj-list" <zj-list@m...>; "az_vjc"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "xj_az" <arizonaXJ@egroups.com>; "graham, steve"
<stevegraham@w...>
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:37 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] ZJ OBA write-up
> As some of you know Steve and I have been working on installing an
> on-board air compressor in my ZJ for the past week. The project is
> coming together nicely, but a lot more work needs to be done. We hope to
> have it done by the end of the week. The OBA might be functional for the
> upcoming Miner's Revenge trail ride -- I hope!
>
> Anyway, I started a webpage which describes what it has taken to get the
> compressor in. The page is not complete, but I will update it as the
> project progresses. Right now the battery relocation and compressor
> bracket fabrication and installation are the only topics covered. The
> webpage does not cover all the options that Steve and I considered and
> threw out.
>
> http://home.att.net/~minihummer/ZJ_topics/oba.html
>
> Linda
> 93 ZJ -- slightly modified
>
>
>
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18046 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 10:56pm
Subject: Re: TJ front axle???
I know I read on off-road.com in the Jeep tech section that the TJ's don't
have the reverse cut Dana 30 and also suffer from some loss of clearence
because of it. Also the reverse cut was said to be stronger. They had
pictures and you could tell the standard Dana 30 by the leangthy flat
bottom? of it.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Wirch" <wirch@m...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:29 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ front axle???
> Which type of front end do I need for my TJ? Standard or Reverse. I was
> looking at a few different years of Broncos/F150 and the 67-76 has a std
> front Dana 44 and the 77-83 has a rev front Dana 44, the 83-96 also has a
> rev Dana 44 front. Just wondering which I should be looking for. All the
> YJ's I've found have reverse cut front ends but do the TJ's also? Do when
I
> swap my front axle do I need the reverse or standard?
>
> I plan on swapping out both axles on my Jeep so when I get this together
> I'll have a D30 with 4.10's and No-Slip and a D44 with 4.10's and No-Slip
> for sale. Don't know how soon this will be though. :)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Pete
>
>
>
>
>
18047 From: Greg Stapley <love24wheel@h...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 11:00pm
Subject: Re: Raw Deal photos
those are some great shots..
Greg
>From: Jon Loveless
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Raw Deal photos
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:41:29 -0700
>
>We had a great day doing Lower and Upper Raw Deal. About 6 Jeeps,a
>bit of
>rain, and some *great* air.
>
>http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=11248129
>
>
>Jon Loveless
>(480) 816-6240
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18048 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 9:37pm
Subject: non Jeep related
Does anyone have an old mini bike, needing a motor that they would like to
sell......or a go cart maybe??????
18049 From: George Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:24am
Subject: SteelHorse Targa top
I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was a
pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
experience with this product?
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
'00 TJ
Avondale Arizona
18050 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:35am
Subject: Re: SteelHorse Targa top
I don't suppose they've found a way to make fiberglass rust...but I wouldn't
put it past them. SH generally has a very bad reputation. Quality is
generally pretty poor.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was
a
> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
> experience with this product?
>
> George Andrews
> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> '00 TJ
> Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
18051 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 6:39am
Subject: Re: Table Mesa run question
Well, first of all, Raw Deal is not rated 2+. Somebody made a mistake
in posting that rating. It's normally rated a 3 to 3.5 and that doesn't
apply to the upper end. The upper end use to be rated a 4 to 4.5 but
I think it's a bit easier these days because parts of it have been broken
down. You do have to remember that trail ratings are determined by the
most difficult part of the trail.
As was already stated, lower Raw Deal offers multiple lines so you can
determine the difficulty level.
In general, I consider Upper Terminator to be more difficult than Raw Deal.
-Roger
James.Towle@a... wrote:
>
> Being a newer member here, reading the trip report and viewing the
> trail rating from the Table Mesa run (a 2+), I am confused.
> We seemed to have less troubles, and sounds like less body damage, on
> Upper Terminator and it was rated at a 4+. Actually the only damage I
> know of was my stock (TJ) steps and a broken slip pin (from a shock,
> somebodyelse).
> Can somebody please tell me what the logic is here.
> TIA
>
> --James
18052 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 6:52am
Subject: Re: TJ front axle???
Pete,
All YJ's had a reverse-cut 30 in front while all TJ's have a standard
cut 30. You can use either. The reverse-cut 30 has a few advantages
though. First, the reverse-cut ring and pinion are stronger because
force is applied to the drive side of the gear teeth instead of the coast
side. Second, the high pinion of the reverse-cut 30 keeps you driveshaft
up away from rocks more. Finally, the high pinion also helps with
driveline angles.
If you want a reverse-cut 44 for your TJ, you will need to look for
the late 70's Ford trucks I believe. And these will be full width
so you'll need to have the axle shortened if you go with one of
these (assuming you stay with stock width).
-Roger
Pete Wirch wrote:
>
> Which type of front end do I need for my TJ? Standard or Reverse. I was
> looking at a few different years of Broncos/F150 and the 67-76 has a std
> front Dana 44 and the 77-83 has a rev front Dana 44, the 83-96 also has a
> rev Dana 44 front. Just wondering which I should be looking for. All the
> YJ's I've found have reverse cut front ends but do the TJ's also? Do when I
> swap my front axle do I need the reverse or standard?
>
> I plan on swapping out both axles on my Jeep so when I get this together
> I'll have a D30 with 4.10's and No-Slip and a D44 with 4.10's and No-Slip
> for sale. Don't know how soon this will be though. :)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Pete
18053 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:06am
Subject: Raw Deal video
To All who were on the Raw Deal runs
I have about 45 minutes of video from the Raw Deal runs. I think there is some time of everyone except maybe Tara (most of the shooting was done at the flip & tip spot). If anyone would on the run would like a copy of the video on CD, drop me an email with your address. No charge.
Jon
At 07:00 AM 1/29/2001 +0000, you wrote:
those are some great shots..
Greg
>From: Jon Loveless
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Raw Deal photos
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:41:29 -0700
>
>We had a great day doing Lower and Upper Raw Deal. About 6 Jeeps,a
>bit of
>rain, and some *great* air.
>
>http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=11248129
>
>
>Jon Loveless
>(480) 816-6240
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18054 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:29am
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
Jeeps the help they need.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
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fool forever."
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
> I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
>
> Linda
>
>
>
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18055 From: <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:36am
Subject: Re: Table Mesa run question
All,
I just wanted to clarify some things here. I added "Areas" to the
AzVJC trails section so that if someone wanted to lead a run in that
area, but didn't know exactly which trail they wanted to run (as in
the case of the run in question), or for a large group with multiple
runs in the area (as in the case of the Christmas Party and T-Shirt
runs).
Because of this, the areas are rated the same as the lowest rated
trail in the area. There are more miles of trail rated around 2.0,
2.5 and 3.0 in the Table Mesa Area than there are of 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5
trails.
The trails that were actually run were Lower Raw Deal (3.5+) and
Upper Raw Deal (4.0+)
The key word to look for here is "Area." I have also added "Florence
Junction Area" and will likely be adding other areas as well.
Hope this helps,
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., James.Towle@a... wrote:
> Being a newer member here, reading the trip report and viewing the
> trail rating from the Table Mesa run (a 2+), I am confused.
> We seemed to have less troubles, and sounds like less body damage,
on
> Upper Terminator and it was rated at a 4+. Actually the only damage
I
> know of was my stock (TJ) steps and a broken slip pin (from a
shock,
> somebodyelse).
> Can somebody please tell me what the logic is here.
> TIA
>
> --James
18056 From: Kevin <nau88xj@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:40am
Subject: Re: SteelHorse Targa top
from what I have learned talking to people that install stuff like that and
people that have it....products that are made by a company with the word
STEEL in the name are generally not the best quality for some
reason...bestop is good tho
kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was
a
> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
> experience with this product?
>
> George Andrews
> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> '00 TJ
> Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18057 From: k7ant Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:02pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
Do you live in Tucson? Every time I go down there I see some 4x4 with
big wide tires with low profiles, like on an indy racer......this is
disgusting looking!
Bill
Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona. God and 4wheelers' country!
"Chris R." wrote:
>
> What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
> ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
> me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
> so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
> Jeeps the help they need.
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
> ___
> [___]
> -(O|||||O)-
> =======
> [||]----O--[||]
> ----------------------------------------------------
> "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
> fool forever."
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
>
> > I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> > front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> > stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >
>
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18058 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:12am
Subject: Re: SteelHorse Targa top
And don't forget, most of those magazine articles are biased. They are not
going to write a bad report on someone that advertises with them.
Steel Horse has a bad reputation for putting out cheap (fall apart and rust
cheap) products.
No personal experience with that particular product though.
Chris
> From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> Organization: @home
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 06:35:35 -0700
> To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>, "George Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>
> I don't suppose they've found a way to make fiberglass rust...but I wouldn't
> put it past them. SH generally has a very bad reputation. Quality is
> generally pretty poor.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
> To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>
>
>> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was
> a
>> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
>> experience with this product?
>>
>> George Andrews
>> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
>> '00 TJ
>> Avondale Arizona
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
18059 From: Ken Borer <kborer@i...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:19am
Subject: Re: [TR] Box Canyon **CANCELLED**
Dummy me - didn't check my email this weekend --- didn't even turn on the
computer, which is not normal either.
Made the trip to the entrance to Box Canyon - nice muddy road - went down it
for about half a mile and then decided to turn around - didn't want to get
stuck and have to hike out in the mud.
Anyway, my vote is for next Sunday the 4th of Feb.
Ken
76 CJ-5 304 V8
2 1/2" Sagging Lift - 4" Superlift soon
33 X 12.5 on 15 X 10 Rims
Open Both Ends for now
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray B." <kb7skv@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@egroups.com>; <AZ_VJC@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Box Canyon **CANCELLED**
| BOX CANYON RUN FOR TOMORROW (SUNDAY THE 28th) HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO
| WEATHER.
|
| If anybodies interrested, I would like to try again next weekend
| (taking votes for sat. or sun.
|
| *************SORRY ABOUT THE CANCELLATION!!**************
|
| --
| ...---===Ray===---...
|
|
| http://www.sixfigureincome.com/?841576
|
|
|
|
|
|
18060 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:26am
Subject: RE: SteelHorse Targa top
George,
Although I don't have any SteelHorse products, everyone I have talked to
about them usually spit on the ground right after saying the SteelHorse
name. I can say (I've seen it) that anything metal product they make will
rust faster than an old nail laying in the bottom of the outhouse.
In AZ it is probably not so bad, but Jeepers just don't like the poor
quality that SteelHorse has come to represent over the years. Maybe there
hard top is better? I don't know....but they do have a track record that is
NOT impressive.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Andrews [mailto:gandre01@m...]
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 06:24
>To: azvjc
>Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>
>
>I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ.
>There was a
>pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
>experience with this product?
>
>George Andrews
>'83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
>'00 TJ
>Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18061 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:57am
Subject: RE: SteelHorse Targa top
Hi George,
I have purchased ONE product from Steel Horse... just one.
A locking hood-latch kit.
driving down a rough dirt road... I notice that my hood is moving around. I
stop and find that the catches on the locks had failed. I pushed them down
and they clicked into place... 10 minutes later, they unlatch again.
When I got home, I took them off and threw them in the wasted money parts
bin (I have some warn fender flares in there too!).
I wouldn't purchase anything from steel horse again. Ever.
I would highly recommend that you not take the chance... find another
supplier. Bestop? Factory top? Anything but steel horse.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Andrews [mailto:gandre01@m...]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
> To: azvjc
> Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>
>
> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00
> TJ. There was a
> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
> experience with this product?
>
> George Andrews
> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> '00 TJ
> Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18062 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:00am
Subject: RE: Hi-Way to Hell
I was thinking of do H2H in a week or two.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: flatfenderman@a... [mailto:flatfenderman@a...]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:51 PM
To: yldkat55@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Hi-Way to Hell
Bill,
H2H is still up in the air, but I will let you know when we go. I'd love to
have you along for the ride. I know how it is when you've got a jeep down to
make improvements. Besides I'd like to hear first hand how your project is
going. Have you seen the CJ2A frame that Jim Allen is rebuilding? If not
check it out on my All Off Road site at, www.azrocks.alloffraod.com
Its a more traditional approach than your project, but it is turning out
sweet.
Chris
18063 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:33am
Subject: Re: Hi-Way to Hell
flatfenderman@a... wrote:
> Have you seen the CJ2A frame that Jim Allen is rebuilding? If not
> check it out on my All Off Road site at, www.azrocks.alloffraod.com
> Its a more traditional approach than your project, but it is turning out
> sweet.
That frame is really sweet. I got a chance to see it on Sat. The engine
and tranny were in, and Jim was framing up some beefy radiator supports.
The springover on it is done with Wragler springs. And that steering box
mount is the beefiest bar none that I have ever seen.
18064 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:37am
Subject: Re: SteelHorse Targa top
Joe W wrote:
> I would highly recommend that you not take the chance... find another
> supplier. Bestop? Factory top? Anything but steel horse.
I've heard good things about these tops:
http://topflitehardtops.com/
I don't actually know anyone that has one, though, so...
I've heard bad things about the Steel Horse Targa Top. Specifically,
about parts breaking, and the top leaking.
18065 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 11:05am
Subject: We ran Box Canyon anyway
The road in was really muddy but after that was fine. A little water running
in the canyon but nothing to hinder our progress. Fun trail but a little easy
for anyone wanted some challenge.
Steve
94YJ
Shop online without a credit card
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RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
18066 From: David Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 1:08pm
Subject: FS
Stock Jeep YJ Islander Fender Flares with Side Step $75
Dana 35 rear axle open 3.54? $75
Factory Soft Top with frame work Well uses $50
GM 10 bolt front free
Stock Drive Shaft $5
Non Jeep Anyone need a house in gilbert
http://www.rebomagazine.com/homes150k/smith2.html
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18067 From: David Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 1:51pm
Subject: Updated FS
Stock Jeep YJ Islander Fender Flares with Side Step $75
Dana 35 rear axle open 3.54? $75
Factory Soft Top with frame work Well used $50
GM 10 bolt front (incomplete) free
Stock Rear Drive Shaft $5
Non Jeep. Anyone need a house in gilbert
http://www.rebomagazine.com/homes150k/smith2.html
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18068 From: David Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 3:16pm
Subject: Fwd: Updated II FS
4 Outlaw II aluminum rims 15x7 (fits wrangler I think 5 on 4.5)
If you want to see what the look like visit this page
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/ $120
Stock Jeep YJ Islander Fender Flares with Side Step $75
Dana 35 rear axle open 3.54? $75
Factory Soft Top with frame work Well used $50
GM 10 bolt front (incomplete) free
Stock Rear Drive Shaft $5
Non Jeep. Anyone need a house in gilbert
Garage is wired for 220v, extra outlets, cable tv in garage, air lines run
thru garage has work bench with cabinets
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18069 From: George Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:37pm
Subject: Fw: SteelHorse Targa top
Forget this...after all the negative responses....no way no how am I going
to invest $1300 for a piece of $%#&!
George
-----Original Message-----
From: George Andrews <gandre01@m...>
To: azvjc <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:15 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was
a
>pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
>experience with this product?
>
>George Andrews
>'83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
>'00 TJ
>Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18045 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 11:52am
Subject: Re: ZJ OBA write-up
Niece job on the custom bracket. Is that compressor self lubricated or do
you have some type of oiler for it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
To: "zj-list" <zj-list@m...>; "az_vjc"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "xj_az" <arizonaXJ@egroups.com>; "graham, steve"
<stevegraham@w...>
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 12:37 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] ZJ OBA write-up
> As some of you know Steve and I have been working on installing an
> on-board air compressor in my ZJ for the past week. The project is
> coming together nicely, but a lot more work needs to be done. We hope to
> have it done by the end of the week. The OBA might be functional for the
> upcoming Miner's Revenge trail ride -- I hope!
>
> Anyway, I started a webpage which describes what it has taken to get the
> compressor in. The page is not complete, but I will update it as the
> project progresses. Right now the battery relocation and compressor
> bracket fabrication and installation are the only topics covered. The
> webpage does not cover all the options that Steve and I considered and
> threw out.
>
> http://home.att.net/~minihummer/ZJ_topics/oba.html
>
> Linda
> 93 ZJ -- slightly modified
>
>
>
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18046 From: Nick Notestine <nnote@n...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 10:56pm
Subject: Re: TJ front axle???
I know I read on off-road.com in the Jeep tech section that the TJ's don't
have the reverse cut Dana 30 and also suffer from some loss of clearence
because of it. Also the reverse cut was said to be stronger. They had
pictures and you could tell the standard Dana 30 by the leangthy flat
bottom? of it.
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Wirch" <wirch@m...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 10:29 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ front axle???
> Which type of front end do I need for my TJ? Standard or Reverse. I was
> looking at a few different years of Broncos/F150 and the 67-76 has a std
> front Dana 44 and the 77-83 has a rev front Dana 44, the 83-96 also has a
> rev Dana 44 front. Just wondering which I should be looking for. All the
> YJ's I've found have reverse cut front ends but do the TJ's also? Do when
I
> swap my front axle do I need the reverse or standard?
>
> I plan on swapping out both axles on my Jeep so when I get this together
> I'll have a D30 with 4.10's and No-Slip and a D44 with 4.10's and No-Slip
> for sale. Don't know how soon this will be though. :)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Pete
>
>
>
>
>
18047 From: Greg Stapley <love24wheel@h...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 11:00pm
Subject: Re: Raw Deal photos
those are some great shots..
Greg
>From: Jon Loveless
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Raw Deal photos
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:41:29 -0700
>
>We had a great day doing Lower and Upper Raw Deal. About 6 Jeeps,a
>bit of
>rain, and some *great* air.
>
>http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=11248129
>
>
>Jon Loveless
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18048 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 9:37pm
Subject: non Jeep related
Does anyone have an old mini bike, needing a motor that they would like to
sell......or a go cart maybe??????
18049 From: George Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:24am
Subject: SteelHorse Targa top
I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was a
pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
experience with this product?
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
'00 TJ
Avondale Arizona
18050 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 5:35am
Subject: Re: SteelHorse Targa top
I don't suppose they've found a way to make fiberglass rust...but I wouldn't
put it past them. SH generally has a very bad reputation. Quality is
generally pretty poor.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was
a
> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
> experience with this product?
>
> George Andrews
> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> '00 TJ
> Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
18051 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 6:39am
Subject: Re: Table Mesa run question
Well, first of all, Raw Deal is not rated 2+. Somebody made a mistake
in posting that rating. It's normally rated a 3 to 3.5 and that doesn't
apply to the upper end. The upper end use to be rated a 4 to 4.5 but
I think it's a bit easier these days because parts of it have been broken
down. You do have to remember that trail ratings are determined by the
most difficult part of the trail.
As was already stated, lower Raw Deal offers multiple lines so you can
determine the difficulty level.
In general, I consider Upper Terminator to be more difficult than Raw Deal.
-Roger
James.Towle@a... wrote:
>
> Being a newer member here, reading the trip report and viewing the
> trail rating from the Table Mesa run (a 2+), I am confused.
> We seemed to have less troubles, and sounds like less body damage, on
> Upper Terminator and it was rated at a 4+. Actually the only damage I
> know of was my stock (TJ) steps and a broken slip pin (from a shock,
> somebodyelse).
> Can somebody please tell me what the logic is here.
> TIA
>
> --James
18052 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 6:52am
Subject: Re: TJ front axle???
Pete,
All YJ's had a reverse-cut 30 in front while all TJ's have a standard
cut 30. You can use either. The reverse-cut 30 has a few advantages
though. First, the reverse-cut ring and pinion are stronger because
force is applied to the drive side of the gear teeth instead of the coast
side. Second, the high pinion of the reverse-cut 30 keeps you driveshaft
up away from rocks more. Finally, the high pinion also helps with
driveline angles.
If you want a reverse-cut 44 for your TJ, you will need to look for
the late 70's Ford trucks I believe. And these will be full width
so you'll need to have the axle shortened if you go with one of
these (assuming you stay with stock width).
-Roger
Pete Wirch wrote:
>
> Which type of front end do I need for my TJ? Standard or Reverse. I was
> looking at a few different years of Broncos/F150 and the 67-76 has a std
> front Dana 44 and the 77-83 has a rev front Dana 44, the 83-96 also has a
> rev Dana 44 front. Just wondering which I should be looking for. All the
> YJ's I've found have reverse cut front ends but do the TJ's also? Do when I
> swap my front axle do I need the reverse or standard?
>
> I plan on swapping out both axles on my Jeep so when I get this together
> I'll have a D30 with 4.10's and No-Slip and a D44 with 4.10's and No-Slip
> for sale. Don't know how soon this will be though. :)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Pete
18053 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:06am
Subject: Raw Deal video
To All who were on the Raw Deal runs
I have about 45 minutes of video from the Raw Deal runs. I think there is some time of everyone except maybe Tara (most of the shooting was done at the flip & tip spot). If anyone would on the run would like a copy of the video on CD, drop me an email with your address. No charge.
Jon
At 07:00 AM 1/29/2001 +0000, you wrote:
those are some great shots..
Greg
>From: Jon Loveless
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Raw Deal photos
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 21:41:29 -0700
>
>We had a great day doing Lower and Upper Raw Deal. About 6 Jeeps,a
>bit of
>rain, and some *great* air.
>
>http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=11248129
>
>
>Jon Loveless
>(480) 816-6240
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18054 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:29am
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
Jeeps the help they need.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
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fool forever."
On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
> I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
>
> Linda
>
>
>
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18055 From: <mike.chatfield@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:36am
Subject: Re: Table Mesa run question
All,
I just wanted to clarify some things here. I added "Areas" to the
AzVJC trails section so that if someone wanted to lead a run in that
area, but didn't know exactly which trail they wanted to run (as in
the case of the run in question), or for a large group with multiple
runs in the area (as in the case of the Christmas Party and T-Shirt
runs).
Because of this, the areas are rated the same as the lowest rated
trail in the area. There are more miles of trail rated around 2.0,
2.5 and 3.0 in the Table Mesa Area than there are of 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5
trails.
The trails that were actually run were Lower Raw Deal (3.5+) and
Upper Raw Deal (4.0+)
The key word to look for here is "Area." I have also added "Florence
Junction Area" and will likely be adding other areas as well.
Hope this helps,
- Mike
--- In az_vjc@y..., James.Towle@a... wrote:
> Being a newer member here, reading the trip report and viewing the
> trail rating from the Table Mesa run (a 2+), I am confused.
> We seemed to have less troubles, and sounds like less body damage,
on
> Upper Terminator and it was rated at a 4+. Actually the only damage
I
> know of was my stock (TJ) steps and a broken slip pin (from a
shock,
> somebodyelse).
> Can somebody please tell me what the logic is here.
> TIA
>
> --James
18056 From: Kevin <nau88xj@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 7:40am
Subject: Re: SteelHorse Targa top
from what I have learned talking to people that install stuff like that and
people that have it....products that are made by a company with the word
STEEL in the name are generally not the best quality for some
reason...bestop is good tho
kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "George Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was
a
> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
> experience with this product?
>
> George Andrews
> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> '00 TJ
> Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18057 From: k7ant Bill Witt <k7ant@t...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:02pm
Subject: Re: Okay, who owns the low-rider? I saw another one...
Do you live in Tucson? Every time I go down there I see some 4x4 with
big wide tires with low profiles, like on an indy racer......this is
disgusting looking!
Bill
Up on the Mogollon Rim in Arizona. God and 4wheelers' country!
"Chris R." wrote:
>
> What, is this a new trend??? This morning driving to work I passed a Black
> ZJ with maybe 13's about 8" wide with the tires stretched to fit...it made
> me want to throw up. That poor ZJ. We need to set up a Free the Jeep fund
> so that we may rescue these vehicles away from their owners and get the
> Jeeps the help they need.
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
> ___
> [___]
> -(O|||||O)-
> =======
> [||]----O--[||]
> ----------------------------------------------------
> "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
> fool forever."
>
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001 18:42:51 -0700, minihummer@w... wrote:
>
> > I saw a Lo-Rider XJ with tires that were as wide as they were short. The
> > front diff was barely off the ground, but it looked like it had an AZVJC
> > stiker on it (I only had a quick look)!!
> >
> > Linda
> >
> >
> >
>
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18058 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:12am
Subject: Re: SteelHorse Targa top
And don't forget, most of those magazine articles are biased. They are not
going to write a bad report on someone that advertises with them.
Steel Horse has a bad reputation for putting out cheap (fall apart and rust
cheap) products.
No personal experience with that particular product though.
Chris
> From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
> Organization: @home
> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 06:35:35 -0700
> To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>, "George Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>
> I don't suppose they've found a way to make fiberglass rust...but I wouldn't
> put it past them. SH generally has a very bad reputation. Quality is
> generally pretty poor.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
> To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>
>
>> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was
> a
>> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
>> experience with this product?
>>
>> George Andrews
>> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
>> '00 TJ
>> Avondale Arizona
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
18059 From: Ken Borer <kborer@i...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:19am
Subject: Re: [TR] Box Canyon **CANCELLED**
Dummy me - didn't check my email this weekend --- didn't even turn on the
computer, which is not normal either.
Made the trip to the entrance to Box Canyon - nice muddy road - went down it
for about half a mile and then decided to turn around - didn't want to get
stuck and have to hike out in the mud.
Anyway, my vote is for next Sunday the 4th of Feb.
Ken
76 CJ-5 304 V8
2 1/2" Sagging Lift - 4" Superlift soon
33 X 12.5 on 15 X 10 Rims
Open Both Ends for now
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray B." <kb7skv@c...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@egroups.com>; <AZ_VJC@YAHOOGROUPS.COM>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Box Canyon **CANCELLED**
| BOX CANYON RUN FOR TOMORROW (SUNDAY THE 28th) HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO
| WEATHER.
|
| If anybodies interrested, I would like to try again next weekend
| (taking votes for sat. or sun.
|
| *************SORRY ABOUT THE CANCELLATION!!**************
|
| --
| ...---===Ray===---...
|
|
| http://www.sixfigureincome.com/?841576
|
|
|
|
|
|
18060 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:26am
Subject: RE: SteelHorse Targa top
George,
Although I don't have any SteelHorse products, everyone I have talked to
about them usually spit on the ground right after saying the SteelHorse
name. I can say (I've seen it) that anything metal product they make will
rust faster than an old nail laying in the bottom of the outhouse.
In AZ it is probably not so bad, but Jeepers just don't like the poor
quality that SteelHorse has come to represent over the years. Maybe there
hard top is better? I don't know....but they do have a track record that is
NOT impressive.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Andrews [mailto:gandre01@m...]
>Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 06:24
>To: azvjc
>Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>
>
>I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ.
>There was a
>pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
>experience with this product?
>
>George Andrews
>'83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
>'00 TJ
>Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18061 From: Joe W <arizonajeep@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 8:57am
Subject: RE: SteelHorse Targa top
Hi George,
I have purchased ONE product from Steel Horse... just one.
A locking hood-latch kit.
driving down a rough dirt road... I notice that my hood is moving around. I
stop and find that the catches on the locks had failed. I pushed them down
and they clicked into place... 10 minutes later, they unlatch again.
When I got home, I took them off and threw them in the wasted money parts
bin (I have some warn fender flares in there too!).
I wouldn't purchase anything from steel horse again. Ever.
I would highly recommend that you not take the chance... find another
supplier. Bestop? Factory top? Anything but steel horse.
Joe West
> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Andrews [mailto:gandre01@m...]
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:24 AM
> To: azvjc
> Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>
>
> I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00
> TJ. There was a
> pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
> experience with this product?
>
> George Andrews
> '83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
> '00 TJ
> Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
18062 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:00am
Subject: RE: Hi-Way to Hell
I was thinking of do H2H in a week or two.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: flatfenderman@a... [mailto:flatfenderman@a...]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 8:51 PM
To: yldkat55@h...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Hi-Way to Hell
Bill,
H2H is still up in the air, but I will let you know when we go. I'd love to
have you along for the ride. I know how it is when you've got a jeep down to
make improvements. Besides I'd like to hear first hand how your project is
going. Have you seen the CJ2A frame that Jim Allen is rebuilding? If not
check it out on my All Off Road site at, www.azrocks.alloffraod.com
Its a more traditional approach than your project, but it is turning out
sweet.
Chris
18063 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:33am
Subject: Re: Hi-Way to Hell
flatfenderman@a... wrote:
> Have you seen the CJ2A frame that Jim Allen is rebuilding? If not
> check it out on my All Off Road site at, www.azrocks.alloffraod.com
> Its a more traditional approach than your project, but it is turning out
> sweet.
That frame is really sweet. I got a chance to see it on Sat. The engine
and tranny were in, and Jim was framing up some beefy radiator supports.
The springover on it is done with Wragler springs. And that steering box
mount is the beefiest bar none that I have ever seen.
18064 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 9:37am
Subject: Re: SteelHorse Targa top
Joe W wrote:
> I would highly recommend that you not take the chance... find another
> supplier. Bestop? Factory top? Anything but steel horse.
I've heard good things about these tops:
http://topflitehardtops.com/
I don't actually know anyone that has one, though, so...
I've heard bad things about the Steel Horse Targa Top. Specifically,
about parts breaking, and the top leaking.
18065 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 11:05am
Subject: We ran Box Canyon anyway
The road in was really muddy but after that was fine. A little water running
in the canyon but nothing to hinder our progress. Fun trail but a little easy
for anyone wanted some challenge.
Steve
94YJ
Shop online without a credit card
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RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
18066 From: David Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 1:08pm
Subject: FS
Stock Jeep YJ Islander Fender Flares with Side Step $75
Dana 35 rear axle open 3.54? $75
Factory Soft Top with frame work Well uses $50
GM 10 bolt front free
Stock Drive Shaft $5
Non Jeep Anyone need a house in gilbert
http://www.rebomagazine.com/homes150k/smith2.html
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18067 From: David Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 1:51pm
Subject: Updated FS
Stock Jeep YJ Islander Fender Flares with Side Step $75
Dana 35 rear axle open 3.54? $75
Factory Soft Top with frame work Well used $50
GM 10 bolt front (incomplete) free
Stock Rear Drive Shaft $5
Non Jeep. Anyone need a house in gilbert
http://www.rebomagazine.com/homes150k/smith2.html
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18068 From: David Smith <dwsmith69@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 3:16pm
Subject: Fwd: Updated II FS
4 Outlaw II aluminum rims 15x7 (fits wrangler I think 5 on 4.5)
If you want to see what the look like visit this page
http://www.discounttiredirect.com/ $120
Stock Jeep YJ Islander Fender Flares with Side Step $75
Dana 35 rear axle open 3.54? $75
Factory Soft Top with frame work Well used $50
GM 10 bolt front (incomplete) free
Stock Rear Drive Shaft $5
Non Jeep. Anyone need a house in gilbert
Garage is wired for 220v, extra outlets, cable tv in garage, air lines run
thru garage has work bench with cabinets
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18069 From: George Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Jan 29, 2001 4:37pm
Subject: Fw: SteelHorse Targa top
Forget this...after all the negative responses....no way no how am I going
to invest $1300 for a piece of $%#&!
George
-----Original Message-----
From: George Andrews <gandre01@m...>
To: azvjc <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Monday, January 29, 2001 6:15 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] SteelHorse Targa top
>I am considering buying the Steel Horse Targa Top for my '00 TJ. There was
a
>pretty good write-up in 4Wheeler a couple of issues ago. Anybody have
>experience with this product?
>
>George Andrews
>'83 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
>'00 TJ
>Avondale Arizona
>
>
>
>
>
>
>