Trail Video Updated!!

[tyota]

Will the mood of this trail video idea change if we did
predator....
raw deal....
ruler.... ?????????

these aren't extremely gnarly trails but they might make for decent video.
I would still like to showcase the local jeepers(all of you) as best as possible, and I'm hoping for a happy medium, a good video/not so much damage:rolleyes:

[Griswold]

upper raw deal is filmworthy and there is no legal exit so you have to run it backwards to get out.
I think you can get some good footage on these trails.

[tyota]

upper raw deal is filmworthy and there is no legal exit so you have to run it backwards to get out.
I think you can get some good footage on these trails.

would u be willing to run those trails?

[Devil Man]

Will the mood of this trail video idea change if we did
predator....
raw deal....
ruler.... ?????????

these aren't extremely gnarly trails but they might make for decent video.
I would still like to showcase the local jeepers(all of you) as best as possible, and I'm hoping for a happy medium, a good video/not so much damage:rolleyes:
I AM STILL IN :D & IT WILL STILL BE GOOD TIMES :D

[Griswold]

would u be willing to run those trails?
........yup.

[Turtle]

I would be in if those are the case!! Heck... we can make good video anywhere... even the street! (almost rolled my jeep in my driveway tonight!)

[Devil Man]

Heck... we can make good video anywhere... even the street! (almost rolled my jeep in my driveway tonight!)
IT'S FUN I KNOW :D

[tyota]

I would be in if those are the case!! Heck... we can make good video anywhere... even the street! (almost rolled my jeep in my driveway tonight!)

thats funny! I almost rolled mine in QT last thursday, wheel all the cranked, pop the clutch equals me almost taking out a gas pump:eek:

[Turtle]

I was bet $10 that I couldn't get my front tire of the top of my dads CJ7 tub... I couldn't pass up a bet! : )

[LKD TJ]

I would still be in. I think we can make a good video anywhere we go.
That said it is your video Nick. Just let me/us (me as I don't want to talk for anyone else) know what you decide.
Thanks

[danno]

Again, I am interested... didn't make the cut last go around.

[tyota]

Alright well it's nice to see acouple of you come back to the idea of wheelin in this video, here's what I'll post up as a starting plan

Predator
raw deal
ruler

it will still be saturday November 12th, meeting at the normal dirt area off I-17 & table mesa rd, exact time isn't set yet, but it will be early
here's who I think is still willing to go, let me know if you don't want your name on the list or if you want to add your name

myself
twstdtj
tadpole
az tj
travisp
hackle
devil man
woody
triple xj
danno
turtle

if anyone else wants to attend and watch, while giving the drivers a hard time, your more than welcome, maybe we can get a couple of volunteers to do a bbq for everyone

[Turtle]

Tadpole... Hmmmm......

[tyota]

this is tadpole, he's not a club member but isn't afraid to wheel his junk so he said he wanted to roll w/ us:D

[My1stJeep]

Nick,

No matter what trails you pick the people running it will make or break it. Looks like a good bunch listed, and with the trails listed I would love to be there. However I will be out of town that weekend, I was hoping it was the first weekend. If anything changes I will let you know. I will be flying back in on the 12th. Which day do you plan on running Ruler?

[jason]

hey sucka, ill be down for runnin the bunny trails listed if theres not already too many going. if so, no prob, ill see ya at the marathon.

[tyota]

hey sucka, ill be down for runnin the bunny trails listed if theres not already too many going. if so, no prob, ill see ya at the marathon.

cool, are you going to be running the marathon? do you have a teammate?

[jason]

cool, are you going to be running the marathon? do you have a teammate?


heck no. not quite ready yet.

no, i meant that i was gonna go check out a couple of the guys when they run thru the tm trails. maybe watch some of the action shots you get.

[Turtle]

Gotcha 'bout the tadpole bit! I was a little confused...

Anyways... put me in the list!

Turtle

[tyota]

heck no. not quite ready yet.

no, i meant that i was gonna go check out a couple of the guys when they run thru the tm trails. maybe watch some of the action shots you get.

I see, ya I'll be out their

[Bama]

Let me know when you guys run "Ruler" I will be out there. Its close to home:D I would love to watch.

[Wind_Danzer]

I'm off the 12th and I'm game. Put me back on the "list".

[Bama]

Anyone know how far Table Mesa road is from Flagstaff? Im up here in Flagg going to school, so im bored:D

[Sedona Jeep School]

Table Mesa is exit 234, if I remember correctly. So that makes it about 100 miles for you to the I-17/I-40 interchange.

[Bama]

20 minutes? :D I am running 3.07's with 36's so i can probably speed to make up some time, if only the scout handled like a Porche on those curves:D

[Griswold]

3.07's with 36's
:eek: :eek: :eek:

[Bama]

IM hoping santa will stick some 5.13's in my stocking:D I have 350 foot lbs of torque with my 345 so im ok for on moderate trails, it still sucks.

[twstdtj]

Ill run anything. i just want to wheel. I think I will go run ruler on Sunday with AZ TJ. Anybody else wanna play??:D :D

[tyota]

Ill run anything. i just want to wheel. I think I will go run ruler on Sunday with AZ TJ. Anybody else wanna play??:D :D

what sunday, this one coming up?

[LOST TJ]

what sunday, this one coming up?

Yes, on the 16th. I'm a ready ta go.............

[jason]

I'm off the 12th and I'm game. Put me back on the "list".


hey jamie, are you locked?

[Wind_Danzer]

No, not locked.

[LOST TJ]

No, not locked.

She has sick driving skills though. I follwed her though Judgement Day and she was all over everything and now with the new rearend... :eek:

[jason]

No, not locked.


just a suggestion, but ya might wanna have at least one locker before running thru ruler and maybe predator. i know justin made it thru predator but even he had trouble. give it some thought first before. :D jmho

[Turtle]

Ditto what Jason said... JD is okay unlocked... However I wouldn't recommend Predator without one... I did it... I know others have done it... but it was TOUGH!

Ruler... well... I wouldn't even attempt it without AT LEAST one locker... even then it will be tough... I have heard horror stories from that trail!

Turtle

[Wind_Danzer]

Ruler I probably won't do. I've seen that trail, especally the upper part and that's a beast. I know AZ TJ made it through with his rubi on 33's but the rubi's are locked.

I'm always up for a challenge, I want to give Predator a go.

[danno]

Ill run anything. i just want to wheel. I think I will go run ruler on Sunday with AZ TJ. Anybody else wanna play??:D :D


Damn Jeff,

Gonna be outta town this weekend in California, and I have really wanted to run Ruler...

We will have to go and do it again soon...

[LOST TJ]

Jamie, i have only made it through the lower part of Ruler. The few times i have been on it at least one rig has broken bad enough to end the trip. I can't help but feel my turn is coming soon. I am sure we will try the upper part this time. Danno i am sure Jeff and i will run it again soon. Him and i try to wheel at least once every weekend. Sometimes twice if life permits it. I did make it up the middle fall on Judgment Day last Sunday. I am still stoked about that.
I can't wait to try it again. Cya

[jason]

Ruler I probably won't do. I've seen that trail, especally the upper part and that's a beast. I know AZ TJ made it through with his rubi on 33's but the rubi's are locked.

I'm always up for a challenge, I want to give Predator a go.



ill bring my strap:D

[old school]

hey triple-xj told me about run im very good friends with him ill go no matter what easy-hard runs no problemo piece of cake fully locked ready for damage and no breakage lets go already planed for the weekend {old school}

[Triple-XJ]

hey triple-xj told me about run im very good friends with him ill go no matter what easy-hard runs no problemo piece of cake fully locked ready for damage and no breakage lets go already planed for the weekend {old school}

Lets GET ER DONE :cool:

Stand that CJ Straight Up In Sky, and say a little prayer :D

[SavageSun4x4]

Alright well it's nice to see acouple of you come back to the idea of wheelin in this video, here's what I'll post up as a starting plan

Predator
raw deal
ruler

it will still be saturday November 12th, meeting at the normal dirt area off I-17 & table mesa rd, exact time isn't set yet, but it will be early
here's who I think is still willing to go, let me know if you don't want your name on the list or if you want to add your name

myself
twstdtj
tadpole
az tj
travisp
hackle
devil man
woody
triple xj
danno
turtle

if anyone else wants to attend and watch, while giving the drivers a hard time, your more than welcome, maybe we can get a couple of volunteers to do a bbq for everyone

Add me to it. If I have the 'ole Cowboy up and running or guess I should say, have the wheels back on I should be there...

[danno]

We are still on for this... Right? 9 Days from now.

[twstdtj]

Nicks at SEMA with no Internet. He'll be back tommorrow!!

[Devil Man]

i heard it was postponed but i could be wrong :(

[danno]

i heard it was postponed but i could be wrong :(

I am really excited about this... not just because of the video but since it sounds like a lot of fun....

I say we go ahead with the wheeling whether or not the video is a go... I noticed that there is a run posted for the Friday before... Can't do it, unfortunately I am one of those lucky ones that does not get Veteran's day off.

So, that being said... What do you say we run:

Raw Deal
Predator
Ruler

On November 12th...

Meet at Table Mesa at 7:30 AM?

Minimum Requirements:

At least one Locker... Two preferred
35 Inch Tires?

[Triple-XJ]

So, that being said... What do you say we run:

Raw Deal
Predator
Ruler

On November 12th...

Meet at Table Mesa at 7:30 AM?

Minimum Requirements:

At least one Locker... Two preferred
35 Inch Tires?


RAW DEAL :eek:
I say you guys are CRAZY :D :D :D J/K.

I wont be able to make that one :)

[twstdtj]

RAW DEAL :eek:
I say you guys are CRAZY :D :D :D J/K.

I wont be able to make that one :)


LMFAO!! Im in and we can make our own video, if we need to. We will see what Nick has in mind.

[Triple-XJ]

LMFAO!! Im in and we can make our own video, if we need to. We will see what Nick has in mind.

We need that John Tallent guy (white XJ) that ran J-Day with us,

Put video on him without a spotter and hold your breath :eek:
That guy scared me, and I wasnt even riding with him :D

[old school]

come on people you built your rigs for rocks what is a little body damage or breakage its all about having fun im in for what ever hard or easy body damage or not ill be there with my spoter triple xj, :D

[LKD TJ]

x2 I am in, but i am a little skeered. Wait, Naw I am down.

[DsrtJeeper]

Ruler is a cake walk with some skills. You need a minimum of 35" tires, 2 lockers, lots of underbelly protection and some chromolly shafts. Body damage isn't much of an issue on this trail. It's more about having a light foot, good lines and a rig that is well maintained. Rio and I ran this trail in record time. I was locked and on 37's with a Dana 30 up front! :eek: Rio had his superflexy machine on 35's. The boulders are big and you will get wedged or hung up on this trail. It's non-stop fun. Bring spare parts! ;)

[DsrtJeeper]

Comparison of my 37's against this boulder at the beginning:

http://www.theedge1039.com/amritualpages/images/thrillride/IMG_2588.JPG

Teaser shot of the last obstacle:

http://www.theedge1039.com/amritualpages/images/thrillride/IMG_2602.JPG

[LOST TJ]

Ruler can be done on 33's. Just gotta get creative. :D
http://pic6.picturetrail.com/VOL164/2041487/5106573/115864268.jpg

[jason]

i agree, it can be done with 33's. just gotta know how to pick your lines or have a good spotter. if not, itll deffinitely bite you.

prolly not something i would do again if i was still on 33's.

[twstdtj]

We need that John Tallent guy (white XJ) that ran J-Day with us,

Put video on him without a spotter and hold your breath :eek:
That guy scared me, and I wasnt even riding with him :D


He liked the skinny pedal way too much!!!!

[danno]

Okay!!!!!

Now we are talking... I am getting reved up for this one... Lower Raw Deal will pretty much be a cake walk but we can do upper and choose the easy medium or hard line.

This is what the hard line on upper Raw Deal looks like.http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2782&stc=1&d=1131123124

I will bring my video camera as well... perhaps if it turns out that Nick cannot arrange the pro video guys for that day, we can make our own. Sounds like we will be able to get several different angles.

Also, as an alternative, we can run anaconda (I think this one is just off of lower terminator). I have done it once, and it is fairly technical.

[DsrtJeeper]

I agree that 33's can make it through and I wasn't trying to exclude others in a rude manner. The point is that the trail rating system is a good guideline and should be followed. Taking under-equipped vehicles on more difficult trails leads to breakage, fluid spillage, holding up other wheelers (trail etiquette) and rock stacking,etc..... You may make it through unscathed on 33's and you may not. I've been on a number of trips where less equipped rigs tried to run the harder trails. It turns into a winchfest, wrenching party and all around disappointing experience.

Again; I'm not a 4x4 snob by any means and those who've wheeled with me know it. If this trip is to include everyone, then they need to be trails rated for everyone. JMHO ;)

[Turtle]

I dont care if there is a camera or not... Im up for wheelin!!!

[LOST TJ]

I agree that 33's can make it through and I wasn't trying to exclude others in a rude manner. The point is that the trail rating system is a good guideline and should be followed. Taking under-equipped vehicles on more difficult trails leads to breakage, fluid spillage, holding up other wheelers (trail etiquette) and rock stacking,etc..... You may make it through unscathed on 33's and you may not. I've been on a number of trips where less equipped rigs tried to run the harder trails. It turns into a winchfest, wrenching party and all around disappointing experience.

Again; I'm not a 4x4 snob by any means and those who've wheeled with me know it. If this trip is to include everyone, then they need to be trails rated for everyone. JMHO ;)

I didn't take it as being excluded. :D You are exactly right. It would do nothing but hold up the bigger rigs. I killed my muffler(had to cut it off at home), tweeked out my steering(still ain't the same) and it took forever to do the upper part. Was hella fun though. If anything i do have a good camera that takes high quality video so i could always walk and film it all. Either way would be a blast.

[xFallen]

Okay!!!!!

Now we are talking... I am getting reved up for this one... Lower Raw Deal will pretty much be a cake walk but we can do upper and choose the easy medium or hard line.

This is what the hard line on upper Raw Deal looks like.


That is up the middle, right? Last time I was out there the right side was very easy, the left somewhat harder than the right but right up the middle looked the toughest. I think the picture you are showing is the smae place as the ones below, but unstacked and devoid of the rocks. Maybe it is a different spot,not sure. The pictures never look as nasty as the thing is up close and personal. That first picture where I am standing in the hole has eye level below my front bumper which would put it at probably over 6 feet.

Getting ready to drop into the hole. The theory at the time was to set up to keep three wheels on the ground at all times but not drop in too early. Dropping in too early means getting wedged. Driver front needs to stay as high as possible until passenger rear is ready to drop in, then drop both in at same time.
http://members.cox.net/xfallen/URD02.jpg

From above after dropping the front into the hole.
http://members.cox.net/xfallen/URD01.jpg

Same place but from the rear to show that front and rear are getting close to fully stuffed but still some room. Rear is about to drop in. Need to drop front in at same time in order to keep three wheels on terra firma.
http://members.cox.net/xfallen/URD03.jpg

How about that. All four wheels on firm ground. didn't get wedged. Managed to get out the other side. Tight squeeze getting in there without mashing anything. Came away with a 2 inch crease though since the drop for the rear passenger wheel is straight down.
http://members.cox.net/xfallen/URD04.jpg

I hesitate to admit this because I can hear the preaching now. ;) It is well undertsood, I know the drill, I do not recommend people go wheelin' alone...and keep in mind I am an adult... :p (just don't advertise the fact)...I was alone, self-spotting, 33s, open diffs. :eek: I had a spare in the back, jack, air, tools, water, fuel, food, drink, radios, and other items. I don't suggest people take this lightly. Stuff breaks even just driving down the road so...no...I won't do this again (and tell you about it:D ).

No, I don't do that very often and in fact rarely. Yes, I am pushing my luck when I choose to go alone on non-trivial trails. But, seriously folks, these trails are not that bad. Really they are not. I did the waterfall at the end of Upper Raw Deal on a different trip when I was with people because doing it solo would have been just too risky.

Now, Anaconda is a more serious (serious meaning fun) venture and worthy of taping. :D If we get more toward that end of the spectrum again, I'd be in too.


Barry

[tyota]

As a small amount of people know I am pulling the video idea:(
theirs been alot of mixed opinions on what should be done, what trails etc....
I just simply can't afford to make a video that I truly believe wont make any money in the long run.
so officially the video is no longer happening












For those people that I've talked to in private about this, keep in touch

[DsrtJeeper]

I have to agree with your decision; Nick. It takes big money and a large customer base to sell this right. If I may make a suggestion; why not try a calendar of AZ trails? I've seen this concept work in the past and if we get some of our very own female Jeepers to do tasteful poses; I think you'd have a winner. Just ask Joe West about his experience! :D Most Jeepers already have the quality digital photos for such a project except for the female poses. :D ;)

[tyota]

I have to agree with your decision; Nick. It takes big money and a large customer base to sell this right. If I may make a suggestion; why not try a calendar of AZ trails? I've seen this concept work in the past and if we get some of our very own female Jeepers to do tasteful poses; I think you'd have a winner. Just ask Joe West about his experience! :D Most Jeepers already have the quality digital photos for such a project except for the female poses. :D ;)

I like that idea

[twstdtj]

Okay!!!!!

Now we are talking... I am getting reved up for this one... Lower Raw Deal will pretty much be a cake walk but we can do upper and choose the easy medium or hard line.

This is what the hard line on upper Raw Deal looks like.http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2782&stc=1&d=1131123124

I will bring my video camera as well... perhaps if it turns out that Nick cannot arrange the pro video guys for that day, we can make our own. Sounds like we will be able to get several different angles.

Also, as an alternative, we can run anaconda (I think this one is just off of lower terminator). I have done it once, and it is fairly technical.


Upper Raw Deal in no more. The mine has closed all but the beggining 100 yards.

[1BLKJP]

I have to agree with your decision; Nick. It takes big money and a large customer base to sell this right. If I may make a suggestion; why not try a calendar of AZ trails? I've seen this concept work in the past and if we get some of our very own female Jeepers to do tasteful poses; I think you'd have a winner. Just ask Joe West about his experience! :D Most Jeepers already have the quality digital photos for such a project except for the female poses. :D ;)

HA, :D if you wouldn't have overslept that day last summer at the White Tanks you would've seen a lot more tastefull (less) poses by some fabulous Jeep Girls (or at least that day they were). :D

[danno]

Yea I believe that it was the same when I ran it last... My previous photo and Fallen's photos were from that first 100 yards and then you had to turn around.

Fallen, Sounds like someone (or the weather) filled in the hole. This is a pic of my Jeep in the same areas as your pictures.

The harder line (at the time) was over to the left... of this photo (or to the right as you are going up)

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2787&stc=1&d=1131145126

This is a pic of the beginning of the attempt of the harder line (at the time). Doing it without lockers can be pretty tricky. For obvious reasons.

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2786&stc=1&d=1131145126

[xFallen]

Yea I believe that it was the same when I ran it last... My previous photo and Fallen's photos were from that first 100 yards and then you had to turn around.

Fallen, Sounds like someone (or the weather) filled in the hole. This is a pic of my Jeep in the same areas as your pictures.



I ran URD last May I think..maybe June...at that time you could go to the top of the waterfall but couldn't go sany further. There would be room for maybe two rigs to make the trail at a time due to having to turn around carefully then come back down the waterfall.

Are you saying tyou can't even get to the waterfall now? That was the part that miade it fun. :(

Bummer.

Yes, it is interesting to see how the trails change with time. People stacking, wearing down and the weather doing its thing all make things change.

Last year the entrance to Twisted was massive. This year the top of the gatekeepr entry point is maybe 6 feet tall. The base is all filled in with sand and has changed it dramatically.


Barry

[DsrtJeeper]

HA, :D if you wouldn't have overslept that day last summer at the White Tanks you would've seen a lot more tastefull (less) poses by some fabulous Jeep Girls (or at least that day they were). :D

Yeah; that was definately my loss that day. :( All the aluminum would have ruined the photos anyways. ;) :D

[My1stJeep]

Bummer on the video, hey Nick send me a PM, I have some info for you.

[Triple-XJ]

If ANY Video is made, and its in the PHX Area, I dont think it should be Raw Deal, lower is to easy and upper is to short with NO LEGAL OUT...
Lets Make a good Video, you know, Like some of the Rock Rat Vids :)

Old School and I vote for any of the following;
TM area:
Annihilator
Anaconda
Collateral Damage
Predator

WT area:
Scorpion
Ruler

FJ area:
Upper Ajax
Axle Alley
Highway to Hell
Lower or Upper Woodpecker

I'm will run with "Oldschool" as his spotter or trail fix hand, and I'll bring my Sony Vid. with Tripod and remote. :cool:

EDIT, And who says we have to run all, or run them in one weekend. Its not a marathon, its a Video.
I say run one area on one weekend, and go home to tune the rig, then run the next area another weekend.

[mongosyj]

I just caught this thread, but I can provide some in-car camera stuff if you guys are interested...It's the real deal, I used this stuff on Nascar Trucks and DIRT Track racing. I think I have 7 camera's, most have clear film advance...Drop me an email...mongosd2@cox.net

Frank

[Triple-XJ]

If any-one wants to see some good vid. of a few trails I mentioned,
go to http://www.stu-offroad.com/others/movies.htm

[Griswold]

Here is upper raw deal when my rig was mostly still in tact. Upper can still be run and there is room for quite a few rigs at the top. There is no legal way out, so it is an in and out run.

http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2798&stc=1&d=1131245801
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2799&stc=1&d=1131245801

[danno]

Old School and I vote for any of the following;
TM area:
Annihilator
Anaconda
Collateral Damage
Predator

WT area:
Scorpion
Ruler

FJ area:
Upper Ajax
Axle Alley
Highway to Hell
Lower or Upper Woodpecker



Okay hows about:

Saturday:

Anaconda
Predator
Ruler

Optional Sunday:

Highway to Hell
Upper Woodpecker

By the way Geno, why don't you bring out the XJ?

[danno]

I just caught this thread, but I can provide some in-car camera stuff if you guys are interested...It's the real deal, I used this stuff on Nascar Trucks and DIRT Track racing. I think I have 7 camera's, most have clear film advance...Drop me an email...mongosd2@cox.net

Frank

Wow, that sounds pretty high tech Frank... Are they still cameras or vids?

[wrangler]

Video or not I'm in just give me directions on whatever trail you (we) decide on:

92 YJ Locked front and rear, 35's, D-44 rear, 30 front, 4.88 gears, SOA, slip yoke eliminator, rocker panal guards, etc.

[Turtle]

Danno.. Only crappy part about Sat. is that Ruler is in the White Tanks while the other 2 are at TM.

Turtle...

[Triple-XJ]

By the way Geno, why don't you bring out the XJ?

I would love to.
Problem is, as of now my XJ is my only driver to work :( (The Turbo Desiel is Byby). I'm afraid the busting that uni-body AGAIN. I broke the power steering box off the sub-frame so I plated it with 3/8" AR. Then I ran Scorpion and broke the sub-frame at the track bar bracket :rolleyes: . The A & B pillars are split apart because I dumped it on the drivers side and NEVER CAGED IT :eek:. When I hit the gas, the door jam moves a 1/2" away from the door :eek: I'm just not sure that my XJ would handle all the trails and still make it to work.

Like Flexy :cool: Joe once said, "SLOWLY TAREING ITSELF APART" :D

I may run 1 or 2, but thats it.


Okay hows about:

Saturday:

Anaconda
Predator
Ruler


Danno, I know its not up to me but, I think one area should be run at a time. Thats alot of wash and Highway to to cover in one day. Unless you would like to make it a marathon.

[danno]

Meet at Table Mesa at 7:30 AM... At the airdown spot.

1st Trail... Predator

2nd Trail... Anaconda

Once we have run these two trails we can decide as a group whether we want to head down to White Tanks to run Ruler or run another Table Mesa trail.

So... Who's in?

I will post the run on the Old Site for signups.

[old school]

ill be there ready for wheeling the rocks {old school}:D

[wrangler]

Count me in. How far is it from tucson? I also need directions.

[Wind_Danzer]

I'm up for trying Predator but I'll sit Anaconda out.

[twstdtj]

Hi all,
Wont make this one. In Cali for 2 weeks, back on the 20th. I will need to go on a run as soon as I can after that. Im already havin withdrawels. Works sucks!! (until the check comes and pays for my heep!!)

[Turtle]

Im in for Predator... will prolly watch Anaconda unless I am feeling crazy (stupid)!

Turtle

[tyota]

who's taking this video run over?:eek:
does everyone understand that the film crew I've hired will not be their and this will only be considered another club run?

[Wind_Danzer]

I do, do, do. :)

[Turtle]

Nick, we all understand. We just figure that since it was planned we might as well go ahead and wheel anyhow... we'll all just bring out own vid cameras and have a cheezy makeshift vid : )

Again, even though it did not work out... thank you for going through the hassles and at least making the effort!

Turtle

[danno]

who's taking this video run over?:eek:
does everyone understand that the film crew I've hired will not be their and this will only be considered another club run?


Nick,

My intention was not to take over the video run. I few weeks ago when I thought we were still on I made arrangements to clear this weekend so I could participate and make plans to get the Jeep ready. Now that I have that weekend clear I figured it would be fun to do a trail run anyway even though the Professional Production Video had been postponed.

In the spirit of the original purpose of the run, I figured that we could invite all participants to bring their video cameras to take some amateur video that we might be able to assemble into a fun video for the participants.

I figured that I would just capitalize off of the fact that we already had the date picked, the trails somewhat chosen and a group of folks that were wanting to go wheeling.

[tyota]

thats fine, it's just that I killed this thread earlier but it's still going
I just don't want the misconception that myself or the film crew will be their. I think it would be nice to re-thread under posted trips/azvjc as a run so this thread will be killed completely
I still am doing the video but on a more private note, so that I can run the trails that I want to run w/ a group that I want to run w/ which you are personally invited to
I just don't want this thread to get out of control w/ the assumption of the original poster and post. thats all

[Triple-XJ]

I'm not going to do this Saturday, SORRY :(

I didnt know Nick and Jeff were unable to make it and Shauna wants to run somthing scenic :confused:

But I'm still down for my Friday run. :rolleyes:

[danno]

thats fine, it's just that I killed this thread earlier but it's still going
I just don't want the misconception that myself or the film crew will be their. I think it would be nice to re-thread under posted trips/azvjc as a run so this thread will be killed completely
I still am doing the video but on a more private note, so that I can run the trails that I want to run w/ a group that I want to run w/ which you are personally invited to
I just don't want this thread to get out of control w/ the assumption of the original poster and post. thats all


Nick,

Understood... I have created a separate post under the Posted Runs section...

Now die thread die....

:D

[Triple-XJ]

Now die thread die....

:D

LMAO :D :D :D