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17995 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 2:47pm
Subject: [TR] Boxcanyon sunday
FWIW I have gotten a few comments re. the rain and the run. To All
possible participants...I will watch the wx a bit this eve and post a
definate go or no-go by 6pm TODAY for tomorrows run. depending on
interrest, I may just postpone it until next sunday....let me know what
you think.
MORE AT 6:00PM
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17996 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 2:31pm
Subject: Mountain bike for sale...Need Jeep parts
Bontrager (same maker as Trek and Gary Fisher)
18"
v-brakes
Shimano LX components
looks brand new
riden about 5 or 6 times at the most
anyone that knows anyone that want to purchase a bike let me know
I NEED MONEY FOR JEEP STUFF!!!!
Steve
94YJ
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17997 From: <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 4:06pm
Subject: Upper Terminator & more
We just got back from the upper terminator and had a great run. Rick,
thanks for getting us together. I am going to have my son, the camera
man for this trip, take some photos off the video and put them on
photopoint. Can somebody direct me, and him, where we need to start
to post them. We got out of there just in time, it started to fill
with water fairly quick.
Also, if anybody is looking for some slightly used, partials, 99 TJ
Sahara running boards, I have just the set. Oh well, I needed
something else anyway.
TIA.
--James
17998 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:38pm
Subject: [TR] Box Canyon **CANCELLED**
BOX CANYON RUN FOR TOMORROW (SUNDAY THE 28th) HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO
WEATHER.
If anybodies interrested, I would like to try again next weekend
(taking votes for sat. or sun.
*************SORRY ABOUT THE CANCELLATION!!**************
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17999 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 7:10pm
Subject: Hummer Article - Rather Funny
This was an article in the Buffalo News Paper written by Dave Barry. He is
a very interesting writer and sometimes writes some pretty funny articles.
This is one of them.
The hulking Humvee satisfies guys' needs for winches. By Dave Barry
It is time for our popular feature "Stuff That Guys Need." Today's topic
is: the Humvee.
Most Americans because aware of the Humvee (military shorthand for HUgely
Masculine VEEhickle) during the Gulf War, when U.S. troops, driving Humvees
equipped with missile launchers, kicked Iraq's butt and taught Saddam
Hussein a lesson that he would not forget for several weeks.
After the war, a few wealthy Californians got hold of Humvees. This led to
some mishaps, most notably when Arnold Schwarzenegger, attempting to open
his garage door, accidentally launched a missile. Fortunately, it landed in
a non-celebrity neighborhood.
But once the "bugs" were ironed out, the Humvee because available for
civilian purchase. I test-drove one recently thanks to my co-worker Terry
Jackson, who is the Miami Herald's automotive writer and TV critic. That's
correct: This man gets paid to drive new cars AND watch television. If he
ever dies and goes to heaven, it's going to be a big letdown.
When I arrived at Terry's house, there was a bright-yellow Humvee sitting in
his driveway, covered with puddles of drool deposited by passing guys. In
terms of styling, the Humvee is as masculine as a vehicle can get without
actually growing hair in its wheel wells. It's a big, boxy thing with giant
tires and many studly mechanical protuberances. It looks like something
you'd buy as part of a toy action-figure set called "Sergeant Bart Groin and
His Pain Platoon."
Terry told me this particular Humvee model cost $101,000, which sounds like
a lot of money until you consider its features. For example, it has
dashboard switches that enable you to inflate or deflate your tires AS YOU
DRIVE. Is that cool, or WHAT? In a perfect guy universe, this feature
would seriously impress women.
GUY: Look! I can inflate the tires as I drive!
WOMAN: Pull over right now, so we can engage in wanton carnality!
Unfortunately, the real world doesn't work this way. I know this because
when I took my wife for a ride in the Humvee, we had this conversation:
ME: Look! I can inflate the tires as I drive!
MY WIFE: WHY?
Another feature that my wide did not appreciate was the winch. This Humvee
had a SERIOUS winch in front ("It can pull down a house," noted Terry).
There's nothing like the feeling of sitting in traffic, knowing that you
have a MUCH bigger winch than any of the guys around you. Plus, a winch can
be mighty handy in an emergency. Like, suppose some jerk runs you off the
road, into a ditch. After a tow truck pulls you out, you could find out
where the jerk lives, then use your winch to pull down his house.
The Humvee also boasts an engine. Terry offered to show it to me, but I
have a strict policy of not looking at engines, because whenever I do, a
mechanic appears and says "There's your problem right there" and charges me
$758. I can tell you this however: The Humvee engine is LOUD. I picture
dozens of seating men under the hood, furiously shoveling coal as Leonardo
DiCaprio and Kate Winslet run gaily past.
As for comfort: Despite the Humvee's ruggedness, when it's cruising on the
highway, the "ride" is surprisingly similar to that of a full-size luxury
sedan being dragged across a boulder field on its roof. But a truly
masculine, big-winched man does not need comfort. All he needs is the
knowledge that he can take his vehicle into harsh and unforgiving terrain.
And I gave the Humvee the toughest challenge you can give a car in America.
That's right: I drove it to a shopping mall just before Christmas.
Perhaps you think I was foolhardy. Well, people said that the Portuguese
explorer Vasco da Gama was foolhardy, too, and do you remember what he did?
Neither do I. But if he had not done it, I doubt that Portugal would be
what it is today: A leading producer of cork.
And thus I found myself piloting the Humvee through the mall parking
structure as roughly the speed of soybean growth, knowing that I was
competing for one available parking space with roughly 20,000 other
motorists, but also knowing that ALL of them would have to stop their
vehicles if they wanted to inflate or deflate their tires. The pathetic
wimps! I could not help but crackle in a manly way. My wife was rolling
her eyes at me, but by God I got us safely into and out of there, and I
doubt that I used more than 300 gallons of fuel. So Saddam, if you're
reading this, please send more.
18000 From: <P35X1250X15@A...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 2:54pm
Subject: superbowl sunday
the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due to snow.......
18001 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:11pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
Cancelled? I was hoping to go BECAUSE of the snow...if anyone wants to go, please respond to this post and we'll do it. Afterall, you are driving a JEEP right?
I'm equipped with tire chains, winch, snatch block, etc. Don't worry about getting stuck, we'll get you out in a hurry :) Lets takeoff around 10:00 from Carefree Hwy and 99th Ave. If nobody responds I'm stuck at home I guess :(
Scott
P35X1250X15@AOL.COM wrote:
the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due to snow.......
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18002 From: <lfar@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:35pm
Subject: '75 CJ5 For Sale
Well, it wasn't an easy decision, but I've decided to sell my 1975
CJ5. I've gotten soft and have replaced her with a 2001 TJ. The CJ5
has been in my family for the past 25+ years.
Pictures are at:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1403756&a=11228329
Here's some details:
AMC 1975 CJ5 with BestTop soft top (1 yr old)
AMC 304 V8 (original)
T15 3-speed tranny (original)
T20 transfer case (original)
Dana 30 front axle with 3.73 gears (original)
Dana 44 rear axle with 3.73 gears and Trac Lok limited slip (original)
Superlift 4" suspension (new)
Rancho RS9000 shocks (new)
Rancho RS5000 steering stabilizer (new)
(4) BFG MT 33x12.50 tires (new) on (5) American Racing 15x8 wheels
(spare is different)
Tuffy center console (new)
Tuffy rear storage box (new)
She's in good condition. Frame is in good shape (never any known
cracks or problems). Body has a little rust at passenger's rocker.
Engine runs good and strong (runs rough when cold, though). No known
problems with the drivetrain and brakes - all good.
This Jeep was used by my father mainly as a tow vehicle behind his
motorhome. The Jeep shows high mileage, but is mostly towed miles.
The Jeep has been off-road about 10% of it's life, with nothing
harder than a 3.0 rated trail. The new suspension and tires were
installed less than 200 miles ago.
Does $4000 sound fair? Or make an offer (please be fair). I might
also be interested in keeping the new tires and taking less $$ for
her.
Please Email me if you're interested, and I'll return with a phone
number to contact me. I live in Chandler.
Larry Farquhar
'75 CJ5 (For Sale)
'01 TJ
18003 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:53pm
Subject: non-jeep.....Yamaha Banshee 4-sale
I need more jeep cash and I don't ride it enough. It's an ' 87 but everything
has been replaced. Top end has only one trip on it. Cylinders and head
just polished. Cylinders are ported, welded crank, shifter mod, milled head
bored carbs. It also has a 4" over stock Lonestar swingarm (chrome). Custom seat, chrome carrier. 8 paddle haulers and Razorbacks come
with it. New upper and lower A-arms with bronze bushings. Runs excellent
and is very fast. Asking $4250 or best offer.
Steve
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18004 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:13pm
Subject: aZvjc AT 500+
I agree with you Doug I don't think any of us had any idea what we
started at the time. Amazing!
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@home.com>
To: "AzVJC Yahoo" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] AzVJC at 500+
> Well...hard to believe that only 2 1/2 years ago, a half dozen or so of us
> did our run up to Crown King....tossed back a few at the saloon and formed
> AzVJC. I noted on the e-groups/yahoo site that we're now have over 500
> members. Whodathunk?
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
18005 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:14pm
Subject: Upper Terminator & more
James had a great time also the link to photo point is below. Enjoyed
the run and meeting you and your son. Looking forward to the pics. BTW we
got back around 5:30 after helping pull that truck out which we could not do
but a tow truck showed up. (who got stuck twice while we were there) we
decided it looked a little flaky so we got out while the going was good.
They had trucks stuck all over out in that area. All in all a great run.
http://www.photopoint.com/
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
18006 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:46pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
Bummer. Snow makes it a more interesting trip.
P35X1250X15@A... wrote:
>
> the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due to
> snow.......
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Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
18007 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:04pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
I would like to meet you. I'll send email by 8am if I'm not going to be
able to make it for some reason but lets plan on doing the run. Is 99th
AVE the turn off for the entrance?
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> Cancelled? I was hoping to go BECAUSE of the snow...if anyone wants to
> go, please respond to this post and we'll do it. Afterall, you are
> driving a JEEP right?
>
> I'm equipped with tire chains, winch, snatch block, etc. Don't worry
> about getting stuck, we'll get you out in a hurry :) Lets takeoff
> around 10:00 from Carefree Hwy and 99th Ave. If nobody responds I'm
> stuck at home I guess :(
>
> Scott
>
> P35X1250X15@A... wrote:
>
> the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due
> to snow.......
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
18008 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:21pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
99th Ave and Carefree Highway is a few miles east of the dam, near the Whitehorse Saloon. I'll be on channel 4. My cell # is 602-312-6898.
Scott
"Leonard K. Pennock" wrote:
I would like to meet you. I'll send email by 8am if I'm not going to be
able to make it for some reason but lets plan on doing the run. Is 99th
AVE the turn off for the entrance?
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> Cancelled? I was hoping to go BECAUSE of the snow...if anyone wants to
> go, please respond to this post and we'll do it. Afterall, you are
> driving a JEEP right?
>
> I'm equipped with tire chains, winch, snatch block, etc. Don't worry
> about getting stuck, we'll get you out in a hurry :) Lets takeoff
> around 10:00 from Carefree Hwy and 99th Ave. If nobody responds I'm
> stuck at home I guess :(
>
> Scott
>
> P35X1250X15@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due
> to snow.......
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products.
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
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18009 From: Kris Jones <jeep183@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:25pm
Subject: 97 TJ For Sale
Go to AZVJC website and look at my member profile for details and
pictures. Look under "Kris Jones". Any questions, comments, or help
in advertising it's sale is welcomed.
18010 From: Kris Jones <jeep183@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:35pm
Subject: '97 TJ FOR SALE!!!!
Go to AZVJC website and look at my member profile for details and
pictures. Look under "Kris Jones". Any questions, comments, or help
in advertising it's sale is welcomed.
40,000 miles $19,500 OBO
18011 From: <pdjpn@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:51pm
Subject: Fwd: Tire stickiness info from Jp magazine
From: Pdjpn@a...
Full-name: Pdjpn
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:49:56 EST
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Tire stickiness info from Jp magazine
To: leonardpennock@h...
LINDA,
DISCOUNT TIRE SELLS YOKOHAMA GEOLANDERS. I WORK THERE. MY NAME IS PAUL.
CALL ME MONDAY 602-978-9686. I'LL GIVE A GOOD DEAL
THANK YOU
PAUL DI PIETRO
18012 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 11:02pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
As much as I would like to go I think I'm going to need to pass. I
wasn't planning on going out this weekend anyway. I looked at the things
I need to do around the house and I can't justify going out. I'm bummed
and sorry but I just have to many things to get done.
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> 99th Ave and Carefree Highway is a few miles east of the dam, near the
> Whitehorse Saloon. I'll be on channel 4. My cell # is 602-312-6898.
>
> Scott
>
> "Leonard K. Pennock" <leonardpennock@h...> wrote:
>
> I would like to meet you. I'll send email by 8am if I'm not
> going to be
> able to make it for some reason but lets plan on doing the
> run. Is 99th
> AVE the turn off for the entrance?
>
> Scott Kruize wrote:
> >
> > Cancelled? I was hoping to go BECAUSE of the snow...if
> anyone wants to
> > go, please respond to this post and we'll do it. Afterall,
> you are
> > driving a JEEP right?
> >
> > I'm equipped with tire chains, winch, snatch block, etc.
> Don't worry
> > about getting stuck, we'll get you out in a hurry :) Lets
> takeoff
> > around 10:00 from Carefree Hwy and 99th Ave. If nobody
> responds I'm
> > stuck at home I guess :(
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > P35X1250X15@A... wrote:
> >
> > the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled
> due
> > to snow.......
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of
> Products.
>
> --
> Leonard K. Pennock
>
> Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or
> failure,
> find that they very rarely lose or fail.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices.
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
18013 From: <mt_b@y...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 0:00am
Subject: Raw Deal Tomorrow (Sunday)
Tara and I will be at the parking lot at 9am to meet Greg. We are
planning on running Lower Raw Deal, unless it is flooded out or
something.
Dan
Green '00TJ
lifted, 33s, locked
Tara
Yellow '01TJ
lifted, 33s
18014 From: <lwt002@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:25pm
Subject: a funny toyota story
A few of you might remember a couple Toyota guys wanting to run FR42 with a
couple of us about a month or so ago, it never worked out.
Anyway, I had invited them to come with last weekend to the T shirt run,
knowing they would not show. I saw the guy today and told him about running
upper Ajax and how cool it was. Then I asked "What happened to you last
weekend?" he replied, "I couldn't make it because my truck has so much
articulation I wore out my front suspension."
WOW
Larry T.
18015 From: Greg Stapley <love24wheel@h...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 6:12am
Subject: Re: Raw Deal Tomorrow (Sunday)
Yeah, unless my ride flakes out, Ill be there too.
>From: mt_b@yahoo.com
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Raw Deal Tomorrow (Sunday)
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:00:53 -0000
>
>Tara and I will be at the parking lot at 9am to meet Greg. We are
>planning on running Lower Raw Deal, unless it is flooded out or
>something.
>
>Dan
>Green '00TJ
>lifted, 33s, locked
>
>Tara
>Yellow '01TJ
>lifted, 33s
>
>
>
>
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18016 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 6:21am
Subject: Fw: Moab BLM trail closures
Some more info on the BLM Moab action. According to UFWDA, no existing
trails (but 2) are affected. Cross Country travel is restricted in some
areas.
Doug
> Subject: Re: Moab BLM trail closures
>
>
> > Doug,
> > This is a press release from UFWDA concerning the Moab situation.
> >
> > > MEMO TO: United Four Wheel Drive Associations
> > > FROM: Carla Boucher
> > > RE: Legislative Advocate Special Report
> > > DATE: January 26, 2001
> > >
> > > WHAT: On January 22, 2001, the BLM published a Federal Register
Notice
> of
> > > Travel Restrictions for the Moab Field Office, Utah. If you have
access
> > to
> > > the Internet, you can read a copy of the BLM Press Release at:
> > > http://www.blm.gov/utah/moab/travelnewsrelease.html. A copy of the
> > Federal
> > > Register Notice is at:
> > >
> >
>
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=3591231576+1
> > +0+0&WAISaction=retrieve
> > >
> > > HOW IT EFFECTS UFWDA: The BLM has issued these travel restrictions
> under
> > > regulations which permit the agency to close or restrict areas to
> vehicle
> > > use.
> > >
> > > Land managed by the Moab Field Office is managed under the Grand
> Resource
> > > Area Resource Management Plan (Grand RMP). Since 1985 the Grand RMP
> > > designated travel in the area as "open to ORV use". An "Open"
> designation
> > > means that all types of vehicle use is permitted at all times,
anywhere
> in
> > > the area, including cross-country travel. These new travel
restrictions
> > > temporarily change the designation from "open" to "limited". A
> "Limited"
> > > designation means that an area is restricted at certain times, in
> certain
> > > areas, and/or to certain vehicular use, such as limiting use on
> existing
> > > roads and trails or limiting use on designated roads and trails. With
> > this
> > > new notice, the restrictions prohibit cross-country travel and limit
> > travel
> > > to existing roads and trails.
> > > These restrictions will last until the Grand RMP is amended.
> > >
> > > The BLM has stated that all existing roads and trails ARE OPEN TO
> VEHICLE
> > > USE, INCLUDING ALL ROUTES USED BY THE EASTER JEEP SAFARI, as well as
> other
> > > routes. With the exception of two trails listed below, these travel
> > > restrictions do NOT CLOSE any existing routes, roads, or trails!
> > >
> > > The two trails which are CLOSED to motorized travel are (1) The
> Sauropod
> > > Dinosaur Trackway Interpretive Trail, and (2) the Mill Canyon Dinosaur
> > > Interpretive Trail.
> > >
> > > Before these travel restrictions went into effect, Behind the Rocks
> > > Wilderness Study Area, Negro Bill Canyon, and the east side of
Westwater
> > > Canyon were already closed to OHV use. These old closures are NOT
> > effected
> > > by the new travel restrictions and so those particular areas remain
> closed
> > > to motorized use.
> > >
> > > One thing worth noting: These restrictions apply to mountain bikes as
> > well
> > > as motorized vehicles. It appears as if the Moab Office of the BLM is
> > > implementing the BLM OHV strategy which incorporates mountain-bike and
> > other
> > > human-powered uses into the concept of "OHV". I'm sure our friends in
> the
> > > biking community are very upset to finally see that anti-access groups
> are
> > > targeting bicycling now. Although it comes as no surprise to those of
> us
> > in
> > > the motorized recreation community we too are sad for the plight of
our
> > > bicycling friends and the challenges that lay ahead of them, of which
we
> > are
> > > all too familiar. But we are in a place to offer them hope: their
> > > struggles are new but we have learned much and are turning the tide
> > against
> > > anti-access!
> > >
> > > WHO TO CONTACT:
> > > Russell von Koch, Resource Advisor
> > > BLM Moab Field Office
> > > 82 East Dogwood Avenue
> > > Moab, Utah 84532
> > > (435) 259-2100
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Riebel
> > > Director of Environmental Affairs
> > > United Four Wheel Drive Associations
> > > http://www.ufwda.org/2K/
> > >
> > >
> >
> > DougB wrote:
> > >
> > > Check out www.blm.gov/utah/moab
> > >
> > > I've read the info and checked out the maps and it appears that a
number
> of
> > > popular spots are affected...but it's hard to make sense of what is
> > > considered an "established trail"
> > >
> > > Anyone have any specific info on this most recent action?
> > >
> > > Doug
>
18017 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 7:18am
Subject: RE: Fw: Moab BLM trail closures
Doug,
Thanks for the update/clarification on the Moab BLM action.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
>Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 07:22
>To: AzVJC Yahoo
>Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Moab BLM trail closures
>
>
>Some more info on the BLM Moab action. According to UFWDA, no existing
>trails (but 2) are affected. Cross Country travel is restricted in some
>areas.
>
>Doug
>
>> Subject: Re: Moab BLM trail closures
>>
>>
>> > Doug,
>> > This is a press release from UFWDA concerning the Moab situation.
>> >
>> > > MEMO TO: United Four Wheel Drive Associations
>> > > FROM: Carla Boucher
>> > > RE: Legislative Advocate Special Report
>> > > DATE: January 26, 2001
>> > >
>> > > WHAT: On January 22, 2001, the BLM published a Federal Register
>Notice
>> of
>> > > Travel Restrictions for the Moab Field Office, Utah. If you have
>access
>> > to
>> > > the Internet, you can read a copy of the BLM Press Release at:
>> > > http://www.blm.gov/utah/moab/travelnewsrelease.html. A copy of the
>> > Federal
>> > > Register Notice is at:
>> > >
>> >
>>
>http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=359
>1231576+1
>> > +0+0&WAISaction=retrieve
>> > >
>> > > HOW IT EFFECTS UFWDA: The BLM has issued these travel restrictions
>> under
>> > > regulations which permit the agency to close or restrict areas to
>> vehicle
>> > > use.
>> > >
>> > > Land managed by the Moab Field Office is managed under the Grand
>> Resource
>> > > Area Resource Management Plan (Grand RMP). Since 1985 the Grand RMP
>> > > designated travel in the area as "open to ORV use". An "Open"
>> designation
>> > > means that all types of vehicle use is permitted at all times,
>anywhere
>> in
>> > > the area, including cross-country travel. These new travel
>restrictions
>> > > temporarily change the designation from "open" to "limited". A
>> "Limited"
>> > > designation means that an area is restricted at certain times, in
>> certain
>> > > areas, and/or to certain vehicular use, such as limiting use on
>> existing
>> > > roads and trails or limiting use on designated roads and
>trails. With
>> > this
>> > > new notice, the restrictions prohibit cross-country travel and limit
>> > travel
>> > > to existing roads and trails.
>> > > These restrictions will last until the Grand RMP is amended.
>> > >
>> > > The BLM has stated that all existing roads and trails ARE OPEN TO
>> VEHICLE
>> > > USE, INCLUDING ALL ROUTES USED BY THE EASTER JEEP SAFARI, as well as
>> other
>> > > routes. With the exception of two trails listed below, these travel
>> > > restrictions do NOT CLOSE any existing routes, roads, or trails!
>> > >
>> > > The two trails which are CLOSED to motorized travel are (1) The
>> Sauropod
>> > > Dinosaur Trackway Interpretive Trail, and (2) the Mill
>Canyon Dinosaur
>> > > Interpretive Trail.
>> > >
>> > > Before these travel restrictions went into effect, Behind the Rocks
>> > > Wilderness Study Area, Negro Bill Canyon, and the east side of
>Westwater
>> > > Canyon were already closed to OHV use. These old closures are NOT
>> > effected
>> > > by the new travel restrictions and so those particular areas remain
>> closed
>> > > to motorized use.
>> > >
>> > > One thing worth noting: These restrictions apply to
>mountain bikes as
>> > well
>> > > as motorized vehicles. It appears as if the Moab Office of
>the BLM is
>> > > implementing the BLM OHV strategy which incorporates
>mountain-bike and
>> > other
>> > > human-powered uses into the concept of "OHV". I'm sure our
>friends in
>> the
>> > > biking community are very upset to finally see that
>anti-access groups
>> are
>> > > targeting bicycling now. Although it comes as no surprise
>to those of
>> us
>> > in
>> > > the motorized recreation community we too are sad for the plight of
>our
>> > > bicycling friends and the challenges that lay ahead of them, of which
>we
>> > are
>> > > all too familiar. But we are in a place to offer them hope: their
>> > > struggles are new but we have learned much and are turning the tide
>> > against
>> > > anti-access!
>> > >
>> > > WHO TO CONTACT:
>> > > Russell von Koch, Resource Advisor
>> > > BLM Moab Field Office
>> > > 82 East Dogwood Avenue
>> > > Moab, Utah 84532
>> > > (435) 259-2100
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Scott Riebel
>> > > Director of Environmental Affairs
>> > > United Four Wheel Drive Associations
>> > > http://www.ufwda.org/2K/
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > DougB wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Check out www.blm.gov/utah/moab
>> > >
>> > > I've read the info and checked out the maps and it appears that a
>number
>> of
>> > > popular spots are affected...but it's hard to make sense of what is
>> > > considered an "established trail"
>> > >
>> > > Anyone have any specific info on this most recent action?
>> > >
>> > > Doug
>>
>
>
>
>
>
18018 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 7:27am
Subject: For those of you bored today
Last chance to play in the snow. A of us are heading up to Crown King. I can't wait to hit the snow. 10:00 at 99th Ave and Carefree Hwy if you want to join us.
Scott
602-312*6898
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18019 From: <tandljacobson@a...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 2:33am
Subject: So No BOX CANYON Today?!?!?
Was waiting to see if the weather was gonna be nice enough for biking
today...it's not. Backup plan was gonna be the Box Canyon trip (Jeep has top
and heater)...it's cancelled! Anyone still interested? Just a quick trip -
roughly same meeting time, but no Coke Ovens......
Tom
17995 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 2:47pm
Subject: [TR] Boxcanyon sunday
FWIW I have gotten a few comments re. the rain and the run. To All
possible participants...I will watch the wx a bit this eve and post a
definate go or no-go by 6pm TODAY for tomorrows run. depending on
interrest, I may just postpone it until next sunday....let me know what
you think.
MORE AT 6:00PM
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17996 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 2:31pm
Subject: Mountain bike for sale...Need Jeep parts
Bontrager (same maker as Trek and Gary Fisher)
18"
v-brakes
Shimano LX components
looks brand new
riden about 5 or 6 times at the most
anyone that knows anyone that want to purchase a bike let me know
I NEED MONEY FOR JEEP STUFF!!!!
Steve
94YJ
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17997 From: <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 4:06pm
Subject: Upper Terminator & more
We just got back from the upper terminator and had a great run. Rick,
thanks for getting us together. I am going to have my son, the camera
man for this trip, take some photos off the video and put them on
photopoint. Can somebody direct me, and him, where we need to start
to post them. We got out of there just in time, it started to fill
with water fairly quick.
Also, if anybody is looking for some slightly used, partials, 99 TJ
Sahara running boards, I have just the set. Oh well, I needed
something else anyway.
TIA.
--James
17998 From: Ray B. <kb7skv@c...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 6:38pm
Subject: [TR] Box Canyon **CANCELLED**
BOX CANYON RUN FOR TOMORROW (SUNDAY THE 28th) HAS BEEN CANCELLED DUE TO
WEATHER.
If anybodies interrested, I would like to try again next weekend
(taking votes for sat. or sun.
*************SORRY ABOUT THE CANCELLATION!!**************
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17999 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 7:10pm
Subject: Hummer Article - Rather Funny
This was an article in the Buffalo News Paper written by Dave Barry. He is
a very interesting writer and sometimes writes some pretty funny articles.
This is one of them.
The hulking Humvee satisfies guys' needs for winches. By Dave Barry
It is time for our popular feature "Stuff That Guys Need." Today's topic
is: the Humvee.
Most Americans because aware of the Humvee (military shorthand for HUgely
Masculine VEEhickle) during the Gulf War, when U.S. troops, driving Humvees
equipped with missile launchers, kicked Iraq's butt and taught Saddam
Hussein a lesson that he would not forget for several weeks.
After the war, a few wealthy Californians got hold of Humvees. This led to
some mishaps, most notably when Arnold Schwarzenegger, attempting to open
his garage door, accidentally launched a missile. Fortunately, it landed in
a non-celebrity neighborhood.
But once the "bugs" were ironed out, the Humvee because available for
civilian purchase. I test-drove one recently thanks to my co-worker Terry
Jackson, who is the Miami Herald's automotive writer and TV critic. That's
correct: This man gets paid to drive new cars AND watch television. If he
ever dies and goes to heaven, it's going to be a big letdown.
When I arrived at Terry's house, there was a bright-yellow Humvee sitting in
his driveway, covered with puddles of drool deposited by passing guys. In
terms of styling, the Humvee is as masculine as a vehicle can get without
actually growing hair in its wheel wells. It's a big, boxy thing with giant
tires and many studly mechanical protuberances. It looks like something
you'd buy as part of a toy action-figure set called "Sergeant Bart Groin and
His Pain Platoon."
Terry told me this particular Humvee model cost $101,000, which sounds like
a lot of money until you consider its features. For example, it has
dashboard switches that enable you to inflate or deflate your tires AS YOU
DRIVE. Is that cool, or WHAT? In a perfect guy universe, this feature
would seriously impress women.
GUY: Look! I can inflate the tires as I drive!
WOMAN: Pull over right now, so we can engage in wanton carnality!
Unfortunately, the real world doesn't work this way. I know this because
when I took my wife for a ride in the Humvee, we had this conversation:
ME: Look! I can inflate the tires as I drive!
MY WIFE: WHY?
Another feature that my wide did not appreciate was the winch. This Humvee
had a SERIOUS winch in front ("It can pull down a house," noted Terry).
There's nothing like the feeling of sitting in traffic, knowing that you
have a MUCH bigger winch than any of the guys around you. Plus, a winch can
be mighty handy in an emergency. Like, suppose some jerk runs you off the
road, into a ditch. After a tow truck pulls you out, you could find out
where the jerk lives, then use your winch to pull down his house.
The Humvee also boasts an engine. Terry offered to show it to me, but I
have a strict policy of not looking at engines, because whenever I do, a
mechanic appears and says "There's your problem right there" and charges me
$758. I can tell you this however: The Humvee engine is LOUD. I picture
dozens of seating men under the hood, furiously shoveling coal as Leonardo
DiCaprio and Kate Winslet run gaily past.
As for comfort: Despite the Humvee's ruggedness, when it's cruising on the
highway, the "ride" is surprisingly similar to that of a full-size luxury
sedan being dragged across a boulder field on its roof. But a truly
masculine, big-winched man does not need comfort. All he needs is the
knowledge that he can take his vehicle into harsh and unforgiving terrain.
And I gave the Humvee the toughest challenge you can give a car in America.
That's right: I drove it to a shopping mall just before Christmas.
Perhaps you think I was foolhardy. Well, people said that the Portuguese
explorer Vasco da Gama was foolhardy, too, and do you remember what he did?
Neither do I. But if he had not done it, I doubt that Portugal would be
what it is today: A leading producer of cork.
And thus I found myself piloting the Humvee through the mall parking
structure as roughly the speed of soybean growth, knowing that I was
competing for one available parking space with roughly 20,000 other
motorists, but also knowing that ALL of them would have to stop their
vehicles if they wanted to inflate or deflate their tires. The pathetic
wimps! I could not help but crackle in a manly way. My wife was rolling
her eyes at me, but by God I got us safely into and out of there, and I
doubt that I used more than 300 gallons of fuel. So Saddam, if you're
reading this, please send more.
18000 From: <P35X1250X15@A...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 2:54pm
Subject: superbowl sunday
the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due to snow.......
18001 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:11pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
Cancelled? I was hoping to go BECAUSE of the snow...if anyone wants to go, please respond to this post and we'll do it. Afterall, you are driving a JEEP right?
I'm equipped with tire chains, winch, snatch block, etc. Don't worry about getting stuck, we'll get you out in a hurry :) Lets takeoff around 10:00 from Carefree Hwy and 99th Ave. If nobody responds I'm stuck at home I guess :(
Scott
P35X1250X15@AOL.COM wrote:
the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due to snow.......
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18002 From: <lfar@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:35pm
Subject: '75 CJ5 For Sale
Well, it wasn't an easy decision, but I've decided to sell my 1975
CJ5. I've gotten soft and have replaced her with a 2001 TJ. The CJ5
has been in my family for the past 25+ years.
Pictures are at:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=1403756&a=11228329
Here's some details:
AMC 1975 CJ5 with BestTop soft top (1 yr old)
AMC 304 V8 (original)
T15 3-speed tranny (original)
T20 transfer case (original)
Dana 30 front axle with 3.73 gears (original)
Dana 44 rear axle with 3.73 gears and Trac Lok limited slip (original)
Superlift 4" suspension (new)
Rancho RS9000 shocks (new)
Rancho RS5000 steering stabilizer (new)
(4) BFG MT 33x12.50 tires (new) on (5) American Racing 15x8 wheels
(spare is different)
Tuffy center console (new)
Tuffy rear storage box (new)
She's in good condition. Frame is in good shape (never any known
cracks or problems). Body has a little rust at passenger's rocker.
Engine runs good and strong (runs rough when cold, though). No known
problems with the drivetrain and brakes - all good.
This Jeep was used by my father mainly as a tow vehicle behind his
motorhome. The Jeep shows high mileage, but is mostly towed miles.
The Jeep has been off-road about 10% of it's life, with nothing
harder than a 3.0 rated trail. The new suspension and tires were
installed less than 200 miles ago.
Does $4000 sound fair? Or make an offer (please be fair). I might
also be interested in keeping the new tires and taking less $$ for
her.
Please Email me if you're interested, and I'll return with a phone
number to contact me. I live in Chandler.
Larry Farquhar
'75 CJ5 (For Sale)
'01 TJ
18003 From: Steve Farris <azjeeper@n...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:53pm
Subject: non-jeep.....Yamaha Banshee 4-sale
I need more jeep cash and I don't ride it enough. It's an ' 87 but everything
has been replaced. Top end has only one trip on it. Cylinders and head
just polished. Cylinders are ported, welded crank, shifter mod, milled head
bored carbs. It also has a 4" over stock Lonestar swingarm (chrome). Custom seat, chrome carrier. 8 paddle haulers and Razorbacks come
with it. New upper and lower A-arms with bronze bushings. Runs excellent
and is very fast. Asking $4250 or best offer.
Steve
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18004 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:13pm
Subject: aZvjc AT 500+
I agree with you Doug I don't think any of us had any idea what we
started at the time. Amazing!
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@home.com>
To: "AzVJC Yahoo" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 12:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] AzVJC at 500+
> Well...hard to believe that only 2 1/2 years ago, a half dozen or so of us
> did our run up to Crown King....tossed back a few at the saloon and formed
> AzVJC. I noted on the e-groups/yahoo site that we're now have over 500
> members. Whodathunk?
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
>
>
18005 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:14pm
Subject: Upper Terminator & more
James had a great time also the link to photo point is below. Enjoyed
the run and meeting you and your son. Looking forward to the pics. BTW we
got back around 5:30 after helping pull that truck out which we could not do
but a tow truck showed up. (who got stuck twice while we were there) we
decided it looked a little flaky so we got out while the going was good.
They had trucks stuck all over out in that area. All in all a great run.
http://www.photopoint.com/
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
18006 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 9:46pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
Bummer. Snow makes it a more interesting trip.
P35X1250X15@A... wrote:
>
> the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due to
> snow.......
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Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
18007 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:04pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
I would like to meet you. I'll send email by 8am if I'm not going to be
able to make it for some reason but lets plan on doing the run. Is 99th
AVE the turn off for the entrance?
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> Cancelled? I was hoping to go BECAUSE of the snow...if anyone wants to
> go, please respond to this post and we'll do it. Afterall, you are
> driving a JEEP right?
>
> I'm equipped with tire chains, winch, snatch block, etc. Don't worry
> about getting stuck, we'll get you out in a hurry :) Lets takeoff
> around 10:00 from Carefree Hwy and 99th Ave. If nobody responds I'm
> stuck at home I guess :(
>
> Scott
>
> P35X1250X15@A... wrote:
>
> the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due
> to snow.......
>
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18008 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:21pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
99th Ave and Carefree Highway is a few miles east of the dam, near the Whitehorse Saloon. I'll be on channel 4. My cell # is 602-312-6898.
Scott
"Leonard K. Pennock" wrote:
I would like to meet you. I'll send email by 8am if I'm not going to be
able to make it for some reason but lets plan on doing the run. Is 99th
AVE the turn off for the entrance?
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> Cancelled? I was hoping to go BECAUSE of the snow...if anyone wants to
> go, please respond to this post and we'll do it. Afterall, you are
> driving a JEEP right?
>
> I'm equipped with tire chains, winch, snatch block, etc. Don't worry
> about getting stuck, we'll get you out in a hurry :) Lets takeoff
> around 10:00 from Carefree Hwy and 99th Ave. If nobody responds I'm
> stuck at home I guess :(
>
> Scott
>
> P35X1250X15@AOL.COM wrote:
>
> the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled due
> to snow.......
>
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18009 From: Kris Jones <jeep183@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:25pm
Subject: 97 TJ For Sale
Go to AZVJC website and look at my member profile for details and
pictures. Look under "Kris Jones". Any questions, comments, or help
in advertising it's sale is welcomed.
18010 From: Kris Jones <jeep183@y...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 10:35pm
Subject: '97 TJ FOR SALE!!!!
Go to AZVJC website and look at my member profile for details and
pictures. Look under "Kris Jones". Any questions, comments, or help
in advertising it's sale is welcomed.
40,000 miles $19,500 OBO
18011 From: <pdjpn@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 5:51pm
Subject: Fwd: Tire stickiness info from Jp magazine
From: Pdjpn@a...
Full-name: Pdjpn
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 01:49:56 EST
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Tire stickiness info from Jp magazine
To: leonardpennock@h...
LINDA,
DISCOUNT TIRE SELLS YOKOHAMA GEOLANDERS. I WORK THERE. MY NAME IS PAUL.
CALL ME MONDAY 602-978-9686. I'LL GIVE A GOOD DEAL
THANK YOU
PAUL DI PIETRO
18012 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 11:02pm
Subject: Re: superbowl sunday
As much as I would like to go I think I'm going to need to pass. I
wasn't planning on going out this weekend anyway. I looked at the things
I need to do around the house and I can't justify going out. I'm bummed
and sorry but I just have to many things to get done.
Scott Kruize wrote:
>
> 99th Ave and Carefree Highway is a few miles east of the dam, near the
> Whitehorse Saloon. I'll be on channel 4. My cell # is 602-312-6898.
>
> Scott
>
> "Leonard K. Pennock" <leonardpennock@h...> wrote:
>
> I would like to meet you. I'll send email by 8am if I'm not
> going to be
> able to make it for some reason but lets plan on doing the
> run. Is 99th
> AVE the turn off for the entrance?
>
> Scott Kruize wrote:
> >
> > Cancelled? I was hoping to go BECAUSE of the snow...if
> anyone wants to
> > go, please respond to this post and we'll do it. Afterall,
> you are
> > driving a JEEP right?
> >
> > I'm equipped with tire chains, winch, snatch block, etc.
> Don't worry
> > about getting stuck, we'll get you out in a hurry :) Lets
> takeoff
> > around 10:00 from Carefree Hwy and 99th Ave. If nobody
> responds I'm
> > stuck at home I guess :(
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > P35X1250X15@A... wrote:
> >
> > the trip to crown king on superbowl sunday is cancelled
> due
> > to snow.......
> >
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of
> Products.
>
> --
> Leonard K. Pennock
>
> Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or
> failure,
> find that they very rarely lose or fail.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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--
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Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
18013 From: <mt_b@y...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 0:00am
Subject: Raw Deal Tomorrow (Sunday)
Tara and I will be at the parking lot at 9am to meet Greg. We are
planning on running Lower Raw Deal, unless it is flooded out or
something.
Dan
Green '00TJ
lifted, 33s, locked
Tara
Yellow '01TJ
lifted, 33s
18014 From: <lwt002@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 27, 2001 8:25pm
Subject: a funny toyota story
A few of you might remember a couple Toyota guys wanting to run FR42 with a
couple of us about a month or so ago, it never worked out.
Anyway, I had invited them to come with last weekend to the T shirt run,
knowing they would not show. I saw the guy today and told him about running
upper Ajax and how cool it was. Then I asked "What happened to you last
weekend?" he replied, "I couldn't make it because my truck has so much
articulation I wore out my front suspension."
WOW
Larry T.
18015 From: Greg Stapley <love24wheel@h...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 6:12am
Subject: Re: Raw Deal Tomorrow (Sunday)
Yeah, unless my ride flakes out, Ill be there too.
>From: mt_b@yahoo.com
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Raw Deal Tomorrow (Sunday)
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:00:53 -0000
>
>Tara and I will be at the parking lot at 9am to meet Greg. We are
>planning on running Lower Raw Deal, unless it is flooded out or
>something.
>
>Dan
>Green '00TJ
>lifted, 33s, locked
>
>Tara
>Yellow '01TJ
>lifted, 33s
>
>
>
>
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18016 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 6:21am
Subject: Fw: Moab BLM trail closures
Some more info on the BLM Moab action. According to UFWDA, no existing
trails (but 2) are affected. Cross Country travel is restricted in some
areas.
Doug
> Subject: Re: Moab BLM trail closures
>
>
> > Doug,
> > This is a press release from UFWDA concerning the Moab situation.
> >
> > > MEMO TO: United Four Wheel Drive Associations
> > > FROM: Carla Boucher
> > > RE: Legislative Advocate Special Report
> > > DATE: January 26, 2001
> > >
> > > WHAT: On January 22, 2001, the BLM published a Federal Register
Notice
> of
> > > Travel Restrictions for the Moab Field Office, Utah. If you have
access
> > to
> > > the Internet, you can read a copy of the BLM Press Release at:
> > > http://www.blm.gov/utah/moab/travelnewsrelease.html. A copy of the
> > Federal
> > > Register Notice is at:
> > >
> >
>
http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=3591231576+1
> > +0+0&WAISaction=retrieve
> > >
> > > HOW IT EFFECTS UFWDA: The BLM has issued these travel restrictions
> under
> > > regulations which permit the agency to close or restrict areas to
> vehicle
> > > use.
> > >
> > > Land managed by the Moab Field Office is managed under the Grand
> Resource
> > > Area Resource Management Plan (Grand RMP). Since 1985 the Grand RMP
> > > designated travel in the area as "open to ORV use". An "Open"
> designation
> > > means that all types of vehicle use is permitted at all times,
anywhere
> in
> > > the area, including cross-country travel. These new travel
restrictions
> > > temporarily change the designation from "open" to "limited". A
> "Limited"
> > > designation means that an area is restricted at certain times, in
> certain
> > > areas, and/or to certain vehicular use, such as limiting use on
> existing
> > > roads and trails or limiting use on designated roads and trails. With
> > this
> > > new notice, the restrictions prohibit cross-country travel and limit
> > travel
> > > to existing roads and trails.
> > > These restrictions will last until the Grand RMP is amended.
> > >
> > > The BLM has stated that all existing roads and trails ARE OPEN TO
> VEHICLE
> > > USE, INCLUDING ALL ROUTES USED BY THE EASTER JEEP SAFARI, as well as
> other
> > > routes. With the exception of two trails listed below, these travel
> > > restrictions do NOT CLOSE any existing routes, roads, or trails!
> > >
> > > The two trails which are CLOSED to motorized travel are (1) The
> Sauropod
> > > Dinosaur Trackway Interpretive Trail, and (2) the Mill Canyon Dinosaur
> > > Interpretive Trail.
> > >
> > > Before these travel restrictions went into effect, Behind the Rocks
> > > Wilderness Study Area, Negro Bill Canyon, and the east side of
Westwater
> > > Canyon were already closed to OHV use. These old closures are NOT
> > effected
> > > by the new travel restrictions and so those particular areas remain
> closed
> > > to motorized use.
> > >
> > > One thing worth noting: These restrictions apply to mountain bikes as
> > well
> > > as motorized vehicles. It appears as if the Moab Office of the BLM is
> > > implementing the BLM OHV strategy which incorporates mountain-bike and
> > other
> > > human-powered uses into the concept of "OHV". I'm sure our friends in
> the
> > > biking community are very upset to finally see that anti-access groups
> are
> > > targeting bicycling now. Although it comes as no surprise to those of
> us
> > in
> > > the motorized recreation community we too are sad for the plight of
our
> > > bicycling friends and the challenges that lay ahead of them, of which
we
> > are
> > > all too familiar. But we are in a place to offer them hope: their
> > > struggles are new but we have learned much and are turning the tide
> > against
> > > anti-access!
> > >
> > > WHO TO CONTACT:
> > > Russell von Koch, Resource Advisor
> > > BLM Moab Field Office
> > > 82 East Dogwood Avenue
> > > Moab, Utah 84532
> > > (435) 259-2100
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Riebel
> > > Director of Environmental Affairs
> > > United Four Wheel Drive Associations
> > > http://www.ufwda.org/2K/
> > >
> > >
> >
> > DougB wrote:
> > >
> > > Check out www.blm.gov/utah/moab
> > >
> > > I've read the info and checked out the maps and it appears that a
number
> of
> > > popular spots are affected...but it's hard to make sense of what is
> > > considered an "established trail"
> > >
> > > Anyone have any specific info on this most recent action?
> > >
> > > Doug
>
18017 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 7:18am
Subject: RE: Fw: Moab BLM trail closures
Doug,
Thanks for the update/clarification on the Moab BLM action.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ
http://www.stu-offroad.com
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
>-----Original Message-----
>From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
>Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2001 07:22
>To: AzVJC Yahoo
>Subject: [az_vjc] Fw: Moab BLM trail closures
>
>
>Some more info on the BLM Moab action. According to UFWDA, no existing
>trails (but 2) are affected. Cross Country travel is restricted in some
>areas.
>
>Doug
>
>> Subject: Re: Moab BLM trail closures
>>
>>
>> > Doug,
>> > This is a press release from UFWDA concerning the Moab situation.
>> >
>> > > MEMO TO: United Four Wheel Drive Associations
>> > > FROM: Carla Boucher
>> > > RE: Legislative Advocate Special Report
>> > > DATE: January 26, 2001
>> > >
>> > > WHAT: On January 22, 2001, the BLM published a Federal Register
>Notice
>> of
>> > > Travel Restrictions for the Moab Field Office, Utah. If you have
>access
>> > to
>> > > the Internet, you can read a copy of the BLM Press Release at:
>> > > http://www.blm.gov/utah/moab/travelnewsrelease.html. A copy of the
>> > Federal
>> > > Register Notice is at:
>> > >
>> >
>>
>http://frwebgate2.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate.cgi?WAISdocID=359
>1231576+1
>> > +0+0&WAISaction=retrieve
>> > >
>> > > HOW IT EFFECTS UFWDA: The BLM has issued these travel restrictions
>> under
>> > > regulations which permit the agency to close or restrict areas to
>> vehicle
>> > > use.
>> > >
>> > > Land managed by the Moab Field Office is managed under the Grand
>> Resource
>> > > Area Resource Management Plan (Grand RMP). Since 1985 the Grand RMP
>> > > designated travel in the area as "open to ORV use". An "Open"
>> designation
>> > > means that all types of vehicle use is permitted at all times,
>anywhere
>> in
>> > > the area, including cross-country travel. These new travel
>restrictions
>> > > temporarily change the designation from "open" to "limited". A
>> "Limited"
>> > > designation means that an area is restricted at certain times, in
>> certain
>> > > areas, and/or to certain vehicular use, such as limiting use on
>> existing
>> > > roads and trails or limiting use on designated roads and
>trails. With
>> > this
>> > > new notice, the restrictions prohibit cross-country travel and limit
>> > travel
>> > > to existing roads and trails.
>> > > These restrictions will last until the Grand RMP is amended.
>> > >
>> > > The BLM has stated that all existing roads and trails ARE OPEN TO
>> VEHICLE
>> > > USE, INCLUDING ALL ROUTES USED BY THE EASTER JEEP SAFARI, as well as
>> other
>> > > routes. With the exception of two trails listed below, these travel
>> > > restrictions do NOT CLOSE any existing routes, roads, or trails!
>> > >
>> > > The two trails which are CLOSED to motorized travel are (1) The
>> Sauropod
>> > > Dinosaur Trackway Interpretive Trail, and (2) the Mill
>Canyon Dinosaur
>> > > Interpretive Trail.
>> > >
>> > > Before these travel restrictions went into effect, Behind the Rocks
>> > > Wilderness Study Area, Negro Bill Canyon, and the east side of
>Westwater
>> > > Canyon were already closed to OHV use. These old closures are NOT
>> > effected
>> > > by the new travel restrictions and so those particular areas remain
>> closed
>> > > to motorized use.
>> > >
>> > > One thing worth noting: These restrictions apply to
>mountain bikes as
>> > well
>> > > as motorized vehicles. It appears as if the Moab Office of
>the BLM is
>> > > implementing the BLM OHV strategy which incorporates
>mountain-bike and
>> > other
>> > > human-powered uses into the concept of "OHV". I'm sure our
>friends in
>> the
>> > > biking community are very upset to finally see that
>anti-access groups
>> are
>> > > targeting bicycling now. Although it comes as no surprise
>to those of
>> us
>> > in
>> > > the motorized recreation community we too are sad for the plight of
>our
>> > > bicycling friends and the challenges that lay ahead of them, of which
>we
>> > are
>> > > all too familiar. But we are in a place to offer them hope: their
>> > > struggles are new but we have learned much and are turning the tide
>> > against
>> > > anti-access!
>> > >
>> > > WHO TO CONTACT:
>> > > Russell von Koch, Resource Advisor
>> > > BLM Moab Field Office
>> > > 82 East Dogwood Avenue
>> > > Moab, Utah 84532
>> > > (435) 259-2100
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Scott Riebel
>> > > Director of Environmental Affairs
>> > > United Four Wheel Drive Associations
>> > > http://www.ufwda.org/2K/
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > DougB wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Check out www.blm.gov/utah/moab
>> > >
>> > > I've read the info and checked out the maps and it appears that a
>number
>> of
>> > > popular spots are affected...but it's hard to make sense of what is
>> > > considered an "established trail"
>> > >
>> > > Anyone have any specific info on this most recent action?
>> > >
>> > > Doug
>>
>
>
>
>
>
18018 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 7:27am
Subject: For those of you bored today
Last chance to play in the snow. A of us are heading up to Crown King. I can't wait to hit the snow. 10:00 at 99th Ave and Carefree Hwy if you want to join us.
Scott
602-312*6898
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18019 From: <tandljacobson@a...>
Date: Sun Jan 28, 2001 2:33am
Subject: So No BOX CANYON Today?!?!?
Was waiting to see if the weather was gonna be nice enough for biking
today...it's not. Backup plan was gonna be the Box Canyon trip (Jeep has top
and heater)...it's cancelled! Anyone still interested? Just a quick trip -
roughly same meeting time, but no Coke Ovens......
Tom