What do I have?

[fishingfever]

Okay I keep looking at my rear axle. Its on a 2004 Sahara edition TJ. I think its a 44 but I don't have that warm fuzzy feeling about it. Where its supposed to be stamped on the lower right it has AMSA. I looked at the 2005s at the dealership the 35s had more of a oval gasket than mine does. Can anyone explain how to tell for sure?

[DsrtJeeper]

Okay I keep looking at my rear axle. Its on a 2004 Sahara edition TJ. I think its a 44 but I don't have that warm fuzzy feeling about it. Where its supposed to be stamped on the lower right it has AMSA. I looked at the 2005s at the dealership the 35s had more of a oval gasket than mine does. Can anyone explain how to tell for sure?

The 44 has a steel fill plug and the 35 has a rubber plug. I suspect a Sahara model has a 44.

[desertdawg]

If it has a plastic/rubber fill plug then it's a 35.

[fishingfever]

Thanks guys, its a steel plug. I now have that warm fuzzy feeling. I can concentrate on beefing up the front.

[Wind_Danzer]

Good call though on checking with us. Some of the Sahara models have been coming out with 35's. I'm not sure if it has stopped but I was under the impression that they all were 44's until I saw some posts a few years back that their Sahara came with a 35.

[xFallen]

Okay I keep looking at my rear axle. Its on a 2004 Sahara edition TJ. I think its a 44 but I don't have that warm fuzzy feeling about it. Where its supposed to be stamped on the lower right it has AMSA. I looked at the 2005s at the dealership the 35s had more of a oval gasket than mine does. Can anyone explain how to tell for sure?

http://www.oly4x4.com/factoryaxleguide.htm

http://www.jeepz.com/Howto-print-article11.html

This one has pictures and cover gasket outlines.
http://truckparts-specialists.com/catalog/differentials/axle-and-differential-picture-guide.htm

Google knows all. :D


Barry

[desertdawg]

Good to hear that! Good thing you don't have one of those trail rated Dana 35's!:D

By the way are you the guy who bought those tube bumpers from me earlier this year?

[mingoglia]

My Sahara has a parking lot rated 35C:

http://gallery3.mikeandsherri.com/d/16046-2/DSC01309.JPG

[fishingfever]

Desertdawg that was my buddy. We picked them up in my truck. I ended up making my own front bumper, turned out pretty good. I tried to talk him into going on the last Coke Oven trip. Maybe the next one.

[live24wheel]

The only problem is that you really dont want that dana 44. I have a stronger dana 35 i will swap you free of charge that I dont need. The nice pints of the 35 is when you break an axle it comes right out for you. great feature. The other nice features are its light weight and high ground clearance. But i am willing to make a sacrifice and part with my dana 35. :D :p

[fishingfever]

Mingoglia, nice looking jeep. What lift did you put under it and how do you like it?

Live24wheel ground clearance mmmmm naw.

[mingoglia]

Thanks a lot! It's a 3.5" RE Superflex that I bought second hand from Barry (Xfallen) after he upgraded to his RK Long arm. I'm very happy with it so far. Having the cam bolts in the front helped considerably I'm sure because I was able to adjust my caster somewhat without having to buy adjustable upper arms (which I'll eventually do anyway). This made a large difference in the straight line stability once I adjusted it. It was somewhat twitchy before I made this change...but then again, I went from a stock vehicle to a lifted one so perhaps I just needed to get used to it.

I just put on JKS Quicker Disconnects Saturday night as well. The RE quick disconnects that came with the kit were a joke. I can't get the pins out to seperate the halfs even with them not installed in the Jeep. The JKS disconnects are so easy it's amazing... and for some reason, call me crazy, but it seems like I have even better stability with them on.

Mike

Mingoglia, nice looking jeep. What lift did you put under it and how do you like it?

Live24wheel ground clearance mmmmm naw.

[NVRSTUKXJ]

If it has a plastic/rubber fill plug then it's a 35.


My D35 has a steel screw in plug.....now what does he have????

[desertdawg]

My D35 has a steel screw in plug.....now what does he have????
10-10-2005 01:03 PM



Chances are that it is most likely a Dana 44, since it's a 2004 Sahara TJ and he probably didn't put an after market steel plug in it.

I'm sure he will be able to tell for sure with the links Xfallen provided.

Thanks for your input!:D

[Special K]

If you really want to know if it is a D35 or D44, just take it out on a trail, find a nice hilll and go up. If your axle shaft breaks, it's a D35, if it doesn't, you have a D44.

[DsrtJeeper]

My D35 has a steel screw in plug.....now what does he have????

The question is....What do you have? :D

[T.C.'S TOY]

All SAHARA'S CAME OUT WITH DANNA 44 REAR AXLES.....THOM (T.C.'S TOY);)

[mingoglia]

All SAHARA'S CAME OUT WITH DANNA 44 REAR AXLES.....THOM (T.C.'S TOY);)

Perhaps the last couple of years Sahara's all had D44's, but mine doesn't. Here's my entire build sheet:

*M5 - Cloth High-Back Bucket Seats
-TJ - Saddle/Moss Green
ADCP - Convenience Group
ADHP - Heavy Duty Electrical Group
APAS - Monotone Paint
ARSP - Sahara Decor Group
A19P - 4.0L Engine(ERH)/5Sp Man Trans(DDQ)
BAUP - 117 Amp Alternator
BCEP - 600 Amp Maintenance Free Battery
BGAS - Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes
CADP - High Back Bucket Seats
CAGP - Easy Access Pass Tip & Slide Seat
CDBS - Reclining Front Seats
CFMP - Rear Folding Seat
CGWS - Next Generation Front Air Bags**
CKES - Front Seat Area Carpet
CKFP - Rear Seat/Wheelhouse/Cargo Carpet
CKRP - Cargo Net
CKTS - Cargo Tie Down Loops
CK9P - Cowl Side Carpet
CLCP - Front Floor Mats
CLSP - Sport Bar w/Rear Padding
CSAP - Spare Tire Cover
CUFP - Full Length Floor Console
DBBC - All Manual Transmissions
DDQ - 5-Speed Manual Transmission
DHNS - Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System
DJJS - Dana 30/186MM Front Axle
DMMP - 3.07 Axle Ratio
DRJS - Dana M35/194MM Rear Axle
DSA - Anti-Spin Differential Rear Axle
EAAC - All Engines
ERH - 4.0L Power Tech I-6 Engine
GBBS - Tinted Windshield Glass
GCBP - Front Door Tinted Glass
GCF - Full Metal Doors w/Roll-up Windows
GRVP - Left Manual Mirror
GSVP - Right Manual Mirror
GTVS - Swing-Away Mirrors
GVAC - All Vehicles W/O Power Mirrors
HAA - Air Conditioning
JAYS - Instrument Cluster w/Tach
JCDS - 100 MPH Primary Speedometer
JHAP - Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers
JJBS - Dual Note Electric Horns
JJJS - 12V Auxiliary Power Outlet
JKAS - Locking Glove Box
KBSP - STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
KWRS - STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
KXRS - STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
KYRP - STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
K5WS - STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR
LAPP - Shift Indicator Warning Lamp
LBBP - Courtesy Lamps
LDAP - Underhood Lamp
LMAS - Halogen Headlamps
LNJP - Fog Lamps
LPSS - CHMSL Lamp
MBAS - Painted Front Bumper
MB5S - Black Rear Bumper
MCHS - Bumper Extensions
MFPS - Chrome Headlamp Bezels
MFRS - Black Front Frame Overlay
MFTS - Body Color Grille
MRJP - Bodyside Side Steps
MWBS - Sport Bar w/Side Padding
NAA - Federal Emissions
NBKS - EVAP Control System
NF1P - 19 Gallon w/Tethered Cap Fuel Tank
NHM - Speed Control
PW1A - Stone White Clear Coat
QW1S - Stone White C/C
RAAC - All Radio Equipped Vehicles
RASP - AM/FM Cassette Radio
RCDP - 4 Speakers
RDDP - Fixed Long Mast Antenna
SBAS - Power Rack and Pinion Steering
SCGP - Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel
SDUP - Heavy Duty Suspension w/Gas Shocks
SHAS - Front Stabilizer Bar
SHCS - Front and Rear Stabilizer Bars
SUAP - Tilt Steering Column
TBB - Full Size Spare Tire
TBRS - Outside Tire Carrier
TRNP - P225/75R15 OWL Wrangler AT Tires
TZAS - Goodyear Brand Tires
VJUA - Spice Soft Top
WJ1P - 15X7.0 Aluminum 5-Spoke Wheels
WKBP - Matching Spare Wheel
WLZC - All Aluminum Wheels
XCYS - Upgraded OBD-II Connectors
XEAP - Tow Hooks
XEES - Fuel Tank Skid Plate Shield
XEFS - Transfer Case Skid Plate Shield
XJFS - Tethered Fuel Filler Cap
YAAS - Build To U S Market Specifications
YGFA - 8 Additional Gallons of Gas
ZAUP - Spring - Left Rear
ZBFP - Spring - Left Front
ZNUP - Spring - Right Rear
ZPFP - Spring - Right Front
Z5BS - Payload Rating - 1800
1AAS - U.S. Dealer Retail
143S - Zone 43-Pittsburgh
2TGA - Customer Preferred Package 2TG
25G - Customer Preferred Package 25G
3VTA - Customer Preferred Discount
6W5 - Paint Order Code
639S - Pennsylvania State Code
939S - Pennsylvania State Code

[fishingfever]

Special K I did the Crown King, Coke Ovens and several Mountain passes in Colorado. Its still in one piece so a 44 hopefully. I had visited the google sites before posting the question here. Its not stamped anywhere, but the gasket shape would indicate a 44. I just didn't have the warm fuzzy feeling until the post about a steel plug. Then NVRSTUKXJ spoiled it. Then TC got it back. Now Mingoglia has a 35. AARGhhh:confused:

Actually its all good its still a J E E P :D

[live24wheel]

OK Look at your differential cover... Does the cover, the outside circumference, look like an oval or does it have "bends" in it? if the cover is oval it is a dana 35, if it has the flat edges oround the outside of the cover it is a dana 44...

[live24wheel]

Open the pics, one is a dana 35 and one is a dana 44, now its your turn to looka and decide what you have. :D

[Special K]

Special K I did the Crown King, Coke Ovens and several Mountain passes in Colorado. Its still in one piece so a 44 hopefully. I had visited the google sites before posting the question here. Its not stamped anywhere, but the gasket shape would indicate a 44. I just didn't have the warm fuzzy feeling until the post about a steel plug. Then NVRSTUKXJ spoiled it. Then TC got it back. Now Mingoglia has a 35. AARGhhh:confused:

Actually its all good its still a J E E P :D


My reply was somewhat in jest as I broke my D35 this weekend. I think a D35 could last many years with hard wheeling, it was just a fluke that mine snapped at this particular time. I have gone on much harder obstacles with no problems. I hope you have a D44 though, it would sure make me feel a lot more warm and fuzzy.

[Jeeppeepin]

All SAHARA'S CAME OUT WITH DANNA 44 REAR AXLES.....THOM (T.C.'S TOY);)

That's what the sales guy said to me when I bought my jeep. Didn't know how to tell the difference by looking at it back then. I do now.
My 2001 Sahara came with a D35 :( . Only the Canyon Package Sahara's come with a 44 stock.

Good picks of rear diffs. That will help a lot of peeps.

[fishingfever]

I am warm and fuzzy again:D Thanks live24wheel :cool:

[live24wheel]

To be honest the 35 will be better, we can swap if you want. the 35 is lighter with better ground clearance.. :D haha no prob on the pics, figured i would settle it the easy way.