propane conversion kit...

[YGOHOME]

I just came accross this website:

http://www.gotpropane.com/p1.html

some teasers are the simplified wiring harness, no fuel pump, no computer

those are the frustrating areas that have plagued my YJ.

looks pretty interesting for my 89. Has anyone here had experience with these kits or something similar? Sounds almost too good to be true.

JEEP kits (http://www.gotpropane.com/p4.html#JEEP)

Thanks,

Ben

[Devil Man]

I just came accross this website:

http://www.gotpropane.com/p1.html

some teasers are the simplified wiring harness, no fuel pump, no computer

those are the frustrating areas that have plagued my YJ.

looks pretty interesting for my 89. Has anyone here had experience with these kits or something similar? Sounds almost too good to be true.

JEEP kits (http://www.gotpropane.com/p4.html#JEEP)

Thanks,

Ben
:eek: that is my old cj7 i wish i had not sold it :eek: http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1720&stc=1 http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1722&stc=1 http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1721&stc=1

[Linda]

You might contact Jeff Groscost. :D

[Devil Man]

You might contact Jeff Groscost. :D
who is this? where & why? :confused:

[Linda]

Mr. Groscost was the author/promoter/sponsor of the alternative energy vehicle bill in Arizona. He stuck the state with a huge bill when people started asking for their tax rebates for the propane converted vehicles they purchased. Groscost created a tax rebate that just about paid for the conversion plus the cost of the new vehicle in which it was installed. After the next election (which he actually ran for re-election but lost) he went into hiding.

When House Speaker Jeff Groscost pushed the alternative fuel vehicle rebate law through the Legislature in April [2000], he knew thousands more vehicles than projected would probably be eligible for the program hiking the state's cost by millions.

The $3 million to $10 million projected cost for the state program was based on new trucks and cars not being eligible for conversion to propane or natural gas because of federal regulations.

Nearly four months before those estimates were made and before the subsequent April 18 passage of the law Groscost quietly had persuaded the Environmental Protection Agency to permit the conversion of new vehicles so they also could use alternative fuels.

This opened the way for more than 20,000 new cars and trucks to be purchased under the alternative fuel rebate program, ballooning the state's cost to an estimated $483 million.

[YGOHOME]

:D Yes I'm aware of the Groscot fiasco. But apart from that, does anyone have any input or comments regarding the conversion itself? these kits arent EPA legal so that is one big issue obviously.

I've emailed the company in the link for more details, general outline of steps involved (or better yet, full instructions), and a part list... also what parts are generally needed that aren't in the kit.

If anyone else is interested I'll post their response once I receive it.

Thanks,

Ben

*EDIT Devil Man, doesn't look like they changed much with your old CJ. Did you have the propane conversion done on it? Or are they just using your old CJ as a poster child? I like the CJ you have now though.

[paparonbo]

Here is another write up for it:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/propane/index.html

From a little bit of research and some experience with family members runnning on propane I came up with

Seems like more of an advantage for a carburated engine than EFI.
It helps with stalling at angles and should run at lower RPMs without stalling
You will have reduced range on a single tank. Its the equivelent to 10 gal of gas
Its cheaper than gas, but not that much cheaper since your MPG drops on engines without high compression
It can be a pain to find a place to fill up, and prices vary greatly from location to location
If you run out of gas, you won't be able to bum some from one of your buddies on the trail
You will have to rig up a fuel gauge system if you want to check your tank level from inside the cab.
I'm not sure if you can get through the inspection portion of the emission test.

It sounds like a cool idea, especially for a trail rig. I don't know if I would put in the effort for my DD.

Ron
00 XJ
87 XJ

[Devil Man]

:D *EDIT Devil Man, doesn't look like they changed much with your old CJ. Did you have the propane conversion done on it? Or are they just using your old CJ as a poster child? I like the CJ you have now though.
no it was gas when i sold it :(

[YGOHOME]

Thanks Paparonbo