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YGOHOME
04-15-2005, 02:02 PM
Ramsey REP 8.5e -
http://www.e-winches.com/detail.aspx?ID=678
I like the idea of the light weight winch... 56 lbs with cable. Anyone here have experience with it (good or bad) or knows much about it's "Motor Permanent magnet (12V)" vs the "series wound" motors found in most other winches.
My other choice would be the warn m8000
Thanks for your replies,
Ben
YGOHOME
04-15-2005, 04:22 PM
well, I did some research...
appearanlty the perm magnet motors tend to overheat quit a bit under heavy loads and I read some great horror storys of a few catching on fire. It was a harbor freight winch but the author of the post I was reading said he thinks it was just a re-baged ramsey REP winch. Seems that the series wound motors are the way to go.
- Ben
SavageSun4x4
04-15-2005, 04:29 PM
What your saying is true to all perm magnet motors, they overheat. For that reason you mostly find them in "constant" running situations, such as your home AC/heater setup. The motor comes on, runs at a constant speed, shuts off only to repeat later.
They just don't hold up well in heavy variable speed pulling situations.
hydrotoys
04-15-2005, 05:37 PM
I've got one. Let's test it out and see how hot it gets, next time I'm out on the trail.
http://www.hydrotoys.com/rides/032005/DSC03065.jpg
JamesT
04-15-2005, 06:15 PM
I've got one. Let's test it out and see how hot it gets, next time I'm out on the trail.
http://www.hydrotoys.com/rides/032005/DSC03065.jpg
Next time there is a Bronco (#5000 vehicle, at least) 100 feet down a cliff, let's try it ;) . j/k
..but still, why push your luck?
To me it is kind of like having all those chrome pieces attached to your rig. They look nice and work at keeping off the riff-raff, when it comes down to the test they won't do the job.
SavageSun4x4
04-15-2005, 06:35 PM
Or, as we in the Harley world say:
"Chrome don't get you home!"
Here's a little bit of Elect. theory for ya all....try and stay awake!
The amount of Current it takes to produce a magnetic force massive enough to produce that kind of torque is going to produce alot of heat....once that heat surpasses the limits of the thin and numerious copper windings, POOFF! It seezes, binds and even produces fire if there is enough fuel around to ignite. Kind of like those electric weed wackers if the string is too long! I have set a few of those things on fire :eek: ! Because of thier small and numerious windings they are ideal for low torq, high speed uses.
With series wound motors, simply, the windings are few and larger in diameter and operate off of DC current. DC current produces more power and less heat (lower voltage) because of its simple characteristics. The combo of more power (current) and heavy duty windings enables it to handle more of a load. As you guys know, they are best suited for High Torq-Low speed applications...such as winching!
Here is a cool site with alot of info for all you electronics geeks. Happy reading! http://www.maintenanceworld.com/Articles/reliance/maintenance.htm
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