View Full Version : Possible New Product - Aluminum!
jeepin_in_az
03-24-2005, 08:05 AM
Just testing the grounds for this...no set pricing yet, but comparable to Toys by Troy.
New Tie Rod:
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1101&stc=1
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1100&stc=1
RufftyTuffty
03-24-2005, 10:34 AM
Nice for upper links too :cool:
So...you will cut, drill and tap it?
I could use a 3' link right now....PM me.
~Mike
dstryr99
03-24-2005, 10:35 AM
I am interested. What will this run me? My current tie rod has a slight arch to it now and should probably be replaced before I hit the trails again.
jeepin_in_az
03-24-2005, 11:00 AM
I am thinking $140.
If I can get 5 people to "Group Buy" on it, I will give a $10 break for each one.
These are estimates only for right now...still have to do the math on all of it!
jeepin_in_az
03-24-2005, 11:02 AM
Nice for upper links too :cool:
So...you will cut, drill and tap it?
I could use a 3' link right now....PM me.
~Mike
Sent you a PM mike...
They are tapped already!
dstryr99
03-24-2005, 11:17 AM
I am thinking $140.
If I can get 5 people to "Group Buy" on it, I will give a $10 break for each one.
These are estimates only for right now...still have to do the math on all of it!
Sounds good. I am interested. Probably wont be able to do anything until after my wedding in a month, but keep me updated.
thanks,
Ryan
Turtle
03-24-2005, 12:05 PM
Looks like a nice product!
Judging by the pictures it appears the tie rod is a hexagon shape (6 sides), is this correct? If so that is the case I can see where the edges would help it hang up/stick to a rock. Much rather then slide over the object like a round one would. I know the effects of hex/round would be minimal, however it is something that is worth considering...
My .02
Turtle
XJ Un-Limited
03-24-2005, 12:54 PM
I do believe the hexagonal shape makes it less prone to flexing. Which is a plus over round stock, which can be an advantage if/when you slide over rocks. My solution, high steer! :D And still run stronger than stock rods.
jeepin_in_az
03-24-2005, 01:09 PM
Yes, it is Hexagonal. I thought of the sliding over rocks thing, but I don't think it will be an issue. Of course, it will bend a little backwards, then eventually up and over the rock. Even if it was round, it would still bend backwards first before it finally went over the rock. In any case, if the rock is too big, you won't be sliding over with round anyway.
Thanks!
jeepin_in_az
03-24-2005, 01:10 PM
I do believe the hexagonal shape makes it less prone to flexing. Which is a plus over round stock, which can be an advantage if/when you slide over rocks. My solution, high steer! :D And still run stronger than stock rods.
Of course hi-steer is going to be better! :D
But even the Aluminum will be better than stock!
Turtle
03-24-2005, 03:01 PM
Makes sense.
Is this material similar to what Troy is using? I heard his aluminum was some "special, just for him" thing. Truth to that, I dont know. Anyways, have you made an attempt at bending it to see if it will spring back? And at what degree it will become no good?
Granted... I surely would take aluminum over stock anyday!
Keep us posted on this!
Turtle!
jeepin_in_az
03-24-2005, 03:22 PM
As far as what Troy is using, I don't specifically know.
I was doing a little research today on 7075-T651:
Material Notes:
General 7075 characteristics and uses (from Alcoa): Very high strength material used for highly stressed structural parts. The T7351 temper offers improved stress-corrosion cracking resistance.
Applications: Aircraft fittings, gears and shafts, fuse parts, meter shafts and gears, missile parts, regulating valve parts, worm gears, keys, aircraft, aerospace and defense applications; bike frames, all terrain vehicle (ATV) sprockets
Mechanical Properties
Hardness, Brinell 150 150
Ultimate Tensile Strength 572 MPa 83000 psi
Tensile Yield Strength 503 MPa 73000 psi
Modulus of Elasticity 71.7 GPa 10400 ksi
Fatigue Strength 159 MPa 23000 psi
Fracture Toughness 20 MPa-m½ 18.2 ksi-in½
Fracture Toughness 25 MPa-m½ 22.8 ksi-in½
Fracture Toughness 29 MPa-m½ 26.4 ksi-in½
Shear Modulus 26.9 GPa 3900 ksi
Shear Strength 331 MPa 48000 psi
JamesT
03-24-2005, 04:31 PM
I have 6061 on my tie rod and drag link, 7075 is more than adaquet. The Campbell's use 6061 on upper control arms and 7075 on lower control arms (or at least they used to, I am not sure now).
Mike, I am not sure how you are planing on selling it. The Campbells price it per foot (or inch) and then a flat rate for each end you want machined/threaded.
skruize
03-24-2005, 05:46 PM
Thats exactly what Troy is using. When I worked there for those 3 months I saw a shipment dropped off and Stu and I looked at the labels. There is no special alumiflex, thats nothing but marketing bs from Troy. It's good stuff though. I wouldn't hesitate to use it on a rig.
JamesT
03-24-2005, 07:07 PM
Thats exactly what Troy is using. When I worked there for those 3 months I saw a shipment dropped off and Stu and I looked at the labels. There is no special alumiflex, thats nothing but marketing bs from Troy.
LOL
I had heard rumors, but never heard anyone talk that had first hand experience.
be carefull.....
jeepin_in_az
03-24-2005, 07:09 PM
I have 6061 on my tie rod and drag link, 7075 is more than adaquet. The Campbell's use 6061 on upper control arms and 7075 on lower control arms (or at least they used to, I am not sure now).
Mike, I am not sure how you are planing on selling it. The Campbells price it per foot (or inch) and then a flat rate for each end you want machined/threaded.
For right now, it is just a TJ/YJ/ZJ/XJ tie rod, which will except stock tie rod ends.
I am sure we can do custom lengths eventually, not sure when though.
jeepin_in_az
03-24-2005, 07:10 PM
LOL
I had heard rumors, but never heard anyone talk that had first hand experience.
be carefull.....
I have heard the same thing, but kept my mouth shut for once! :D
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