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13163 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 6:46pm
Subject: RE: Christmas Party
Hmmmm.....that does sound pretty good. And a great opportunity for those
who have been thinking "I'll mail my user fee in to State Trust next week"
to actually get their user permit. By doing so, those who observe realize
there are more folks recreating on State Trust Land and WE have a bigger
influence on decisions being made.
OK....the meds are kicking in and I think I'll go get some dinner. Ah yes,
much better.
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:41 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com; Mike
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
No fees. It is, however, State Trust Land. I have a general use permit, as
do other members in the club. I really don't think we'd have much to worry
about.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mchat@h...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
> That's kind of the area I was thinking too.
> I wonder what kind of fees would be involved to use the Jamboree site?
> Plus with the variety and number of trails out there, there'd be something
> for everyone.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:10 PM
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com; Chatfield, Mike
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>
> Great Idea! Maybe somewhere over in the Mineral Mountain area
> (Florence/Florence Junction) so it's a little close to our Tucson
> Members...just a thought.
>
> Doug
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chatfield, Mike" <mchat@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:15 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > What kind of interest is there in having an Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > Christmas Party?
> >
> > Some thoughts:
> >
> > 1. Dates. Best bet would be to have it one of the first two weekends
in
> > December. Also since many AzVJCers also belong to other clubs, it would
> be
> > wise to ensure that our date doesn't conflict with the majority of
these.
> > Also I think this should be a weekend campout, for those desiring to
stay
> > overnight. Saturday would be the main day with short morning trail runs
> and
> > a potluck afternoon/evening, possibly a night run for those interested.
> > Sunday could be more trail runs followed by a camp cleanup.
> >
> > 2. Where: State Land vs. Az State Trust Land vs US Forest. What are
the
> > pros and cons of each? What fees are applicable for each? What permits
> are
> > required for each? Also since the majority of AzVJCers are either in the
> > Phoenix area or the Tucson area, someplace between Phoenix and Tucson?
> >
> > 3. Gifts: Have a "Dirty Santa" participate-if-you-want-to gift
exchange
> > for the adults. A "real" Santa for the younger kids.
> >
> > This could be a great time to meet all those AzVJCers that you haven't
> > managed to catch a trail with.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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13164 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 7:52pm
Subject: Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
Hello all,
I received a call from Stacy at Metcalf this evening. She was very apologetic and explained that they have been busy trying to fill orders and fight the forest fires that are going on very close to them. She admitted that they they failed in the area of customer service and she says this has been an eye opener for them. They seem like very good people that are still learning to juggle the hectic day to day operations of a startup company. From what I've read and heard they do have excellent products. Stacy offered a full refund if I wasn't happy and I said that I will install the product next week and make my decision. I have no reason to believe that it is nothing less than top notch quality.
I will post some pics and a review once I've had a chance to install the 2" motor mounts and flush crossmember early next week.
Scott Kruize - OSM TJ
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13165 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 27, 2000 8:06pm
Subject: Re: Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
That must be Scott, I've been in contact with Brennan Metcalf and he seems to be quite a great people.
We all have bad days, or bad weeks, I hope to hear good impressions from you about their products, the flat skidplate looks soo temptating!
happy weekend!
Jesus Chio: http://www.alloffroad.com
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Lets make a better world, for our parents, us, for our children, for anyone. YO.
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Cc: sales@metcalfmotorsports.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 9:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
Hello all,
I received a call from Stacy at Metcalf this evening. She was very apologetic and explained that they have been busy trying to fill orders and fight the forest fires that are going on very close to them. She admitted that they they failed in the area of customer service and she says this has been an eye opener for them. They seem like very good people that are still learning to juggle the hectic day to day operations of a startup company. From what I've read and heard they do have excellent products. Stacy offered a full refund if I wasn't happy and I said that I will install the product next week and make my decision. I have no reason to believe that it is nothing less than top notch quality.
I will post some pics and a review once I've had a chance to install the 2" motor mounts and flush crossmember early next week.
Scott Kruize - OSM TJ
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13166 From: Mike Pawlowski <mikepawlowski@e...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 1:08pm
Subject: Off Topic - Fridge For Sale
Hey Guys,
As I mentioned Earlier, I am moving, and have to much stuff... A Full-Size Fridge (Works great as a garage fridge). First $40 takes it....
Regards,
- Mike
13167 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:04pm
Subject: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
Hey All,
I got this off one of the links on the website. Can you help this Jeeper
out with info he's looking for? I'm not in the area anymore so don't
feel I can answer this one.
Thanks,
Jim Yucca-man@juno.com
Dirty 1/2 dozen - Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
http://azvjc.web.com
89 Cherokee 73 CJ5 (RIP)
From: "Slavick" slavick@t...
To: Yucca-man@j...
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 17:52:06 -0700
Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
This not a suggestion but a request for info on roads.
On I-40 between Topock(Needles) and Kingman is a place called Yucca. From there is a dirt road to ghost town Signal and then my map shows the road ending at Alamo Lake. After a gap, my map shows the road starting up again on the south side of Alamo Lake and then going out to AZ93 near the intersection with AZ71. My question is: my map misprinted and the road is actually a through road or if not, is it possible to go cross country and pick up the road anyway?
The second question is about Organ Pipe Cactus NM. My map shows a "trail" going out the west side of the NM. Do you know anything about the "trail"? Is it a footpath or is it negotiable by Jeep.
My Jeep is a 2000 Wrangler 4 liter w/auto and stock wheels and tires. Let my veh (or lack of a suitable veh) enter into your advice about those roads.
Thanks
John Slavick
13168 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:04pm
Subject: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
Hey All,
I got this off one of the links on the website. Can you help this Jeeper
out with info he's looking for? I'm not in the area anymore so don't
feel I can answer this one.
Thanks,
Jim Yucca-man@juno.com
Dirty 1/2 dozen - Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
http://azvjc.web.com
89 Cherokee 73 CJ5 (RIP)
From: "Slavick" slavick@t...
To: Yucca-man@j...
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 17:52:06 -0700
Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
This not a suggestion but a request for info on roads.
On I-40 between Topock(Needles) and Kingman is a place called Yucca. From there is a dirt road to ghost town Signal and then my map shows the road ending at Alamo Lake. After a gap, my map shows the road starting up again on the south side of Alamo Lake and then going out to AZ93 near the intersection with AZ71. My question is: my map misprinted and the road is actually a through road or if not, is it possible to go cross country and pick up the road anyway?
The second question is about Organ Pipe Cactus NM. My map shows a "trail" going out the west side of the NM. Do you know anything about the "trail"? Is it a footpath or is it negotiable by Jeep.
My Jeep is a 2000 Wrangler 4 liter w/auto and stock wheels and tires. Let my veh (or lack of a suitable veh) enter into your advice about those roads.
Thanks
John Slavick
13169 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:38pm
Subject: RE: Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
Scott,
I am very glad to see that they called you. That says a lot for the company right there, in my opinion. If they didn't care about customer service, they would not have wasted the call to get in touch with you. I hope you are happy after the install. Be sure to post some pics and give us the initial impression of it.
later......Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:osmtj@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 7:52 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Cc: sales@metcalfmotorsports.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
Hello all,
I received a call from Stacy at Metcalf this evening. She was very apologetic and explained that they have been busy trying to fill orders and fight the forest fires that are going on very close to them. She admitted that they they failed in the area of customer service and she says this has been an eye opener for them. They seem like very good people that are still learning to juggle the hectic day to day operations of a startup company. From what I've read and heard they do have excellent products. Stacy offered a full refund if I wasn't happy and I said that I will install the product next week and make my decision. I have no reason to believe that it is nothing less than top notch quality.
I will post some pics and a review once I've had a chance to install the 2" motor mounts and flush crossmember early next week.
Scott Kruize - OSM TJ
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13170 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:37pm
Subject: For Sale
I'm selling my rear bumper and swing out for my TJ in order to prototype a
new one. It's going to be almost identical only a bit bigger. If you want
pictures just let me know. I'm also going to sell my front bumper to build
a new one with integrated winch mount. I want $175 for the rear bumper w/
swing out and $125 for the front bumper. These are priced this low to move
them quickly and let me get the steel to prototype a new set.
Pete
13171 From: Roxie <Roxie@t...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:49pm
Subject: John - I need your address!!
The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini Top to - please resend me
your address!! I have it all ready to ship and my computer...uh...fell
down last night. The lovely people at gateway will have it back to me by
next week!! Augh!!
Anyway - please email me your address off-list! Thanks!
-Stacy-Michelle
"Yes, I *know* TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
13172 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:05pm
Subject: RE: John - I need your address!!
Stacy-Michelle,
You cracked me up with that one. I have a very good friend who has a
daughter named Dusty. Dusty's husband is named John. My friend almost
always refers to him as Dusty's John in order to NOT get him confused with
some other relative in the family whose name is also John. Of course, I
give her quite a bad time about her daughter and her John.
So....you start out with "The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini
Top...."
Yep....hmmm......so you have your own John too? <G> j/k
later......Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: Roxie [mailto:Roxie@t...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:50 PM
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] John - I need your address!!
The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini Top to - please resend me
your address!! I have it all ready to ship and my computer...uh...fell
down last night. The lovely people at gateway will have it back to me by
next week!! Augh!!
Anyway - please email me your address off-list! Thanks!
-Stacy-Michelle
"Yes, I *know* TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
13173 From: Roxie <Roxie@t...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:29pm
Subject: RE: John - I need your address!!
Well, he's not "my own" John...I was just giving him a bikini top...but
at the rate I mail things, I could probably just bring it down to him in
a couple weeks ;)
Stacy-Michelle
"Yes, I know TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
-----Original Message-----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@u...>
To: "Roxie" <Roxie@t...>, <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:05:32 -0700
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] John - I need your address!!
> Stacy-Michelle,
>
> You cracked me up with that one. I have a very good friend who has a
> daughter named Dusty. Dusty's husband is named John. My friend almost
> always refers to him as Dusty's John in order to NOT get him confused
> with
> some other relative in the family whose name is also John. Of course,
> I
> give her quite a bad time about her daughter and her John.
>
> So....you start out with "The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini
> Top...."
>
> Yep....hmmm......so you have your own John too? <G> j/k
>
> later......Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
> Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roxie [mailto:Roxie@t...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] John - I need your address!!
>
>
> The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini Top to - please resend me
> your address!! I have it all ready to ship and my computer...uh...fell
> down last night. The lovely people at gateway will have it back to me
> by
> next week!! Augh!!
>
> Anyway - please email me your address off-list! Thanks!
>
> -Stacy-Michelle
> "Yes, I *know* TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
13174 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:40pm
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
Sounds like fun,
Set it up.. I am sure most will attend...
dave
>From: "Chatfield, Mike" <mchat@h...>
>To: "'az_vjc@egroups.com'" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:15:50 -0700
>
>Hey All,
>
>What kind of interest is there in having an Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
>Christmas Party?
>
>Some thoughts:
>
>1. Dates. Best bet would be to have it one of the first two weekends in
>December. Also since many AzVJCers also belong to other clubs, it would be
>wise to ensure that our date doesn't conflict with the majority of these.
>Also I think this should be a weekend campout, for those desiring to stay
>overnight. Saturday would be the main day with short morning trail runs
>and
>a potluck afternoon/evening, possibly a night run for those interested.
>Sunday could be more trail runs followed by a camp cleanup.
>
>2. Where: State Land vs. Az State Trust Land vs US Forest. What are the
>pros and cons of each? What fees are applicable for each? What permits are
>required for each? Also since the majority of AzVJCers are either in the
>Phoenix area or the Tucson area, someplace between Phoenix and Tucson?
>
>3. Gifts: Have a "Dirty Santa" participate-if-you-want-to gift exchange
>for the adults. A "real" Santa for the younger kids.
>
>This could be a great time to meet all those AzVJCers that you haven't
>managed to catch a trail with.
>
>What do you think?
>
>- Mike
>
>
>
>
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13175 From: Roxie <Roxie@t...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:43pm
Subject: RE: UPS experience...
I deal with UPS a LOT with work - and here's the deal:
1) Mailboxes etc - I don't know if you can ***** them out for it, all
they did was box it...
2) UPS *MAY* be responsible for up to a whole $100 if you can show that
the box was really beat up in the whole process (usually not hard, they
beat up everything).
3) If you declaired a value, UPS *MAY* be responsible for up to what you
declaired. Once again, you have to show that they beat the hell out of
it.
4) UPS can also say "It wasn't packaged correctly" - but for other than
glass items and computer items, I don't believe they have a really set
requirements for packaging.
5) I'd give the guy who said UPS wasn't a moving company a piece of my
mind...then I'd give his manager a piece of my mind. They ARE a moving
company. You are using them to ship stuff!!! WHAT you ship (provided it
is legal items) is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. WHAT their business is, would
be to get the items to their destination in a safe and somewhat speedy
manager. THAT IS THERE JOB!
Stacy-Michelle
"Yes, I know TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
-----Original Message-----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@u...>
To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:08:57 -0700
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] UPS experience...
> First question....was insurance purchased when the doors where shipped?
> If
> so, time to collect. Also, ask UPS just what they call it when making
> a box
> shipped from "City A" appear several days later in "City B". Gosh, it
> sure
> sounds like they are moving freight to me. If the package/packaging
> was
> accepted by UPS (it obviously was), then it obviously met their
> standards
> for shipping. If you paid Mailboxes for packing up the doors, then
> they are
> responsible....just as if you had paid a mechanic to fix your Jeep and
> he
> did it wrong.
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
> http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Blair Bendler [mailto:blairb@r...]
> >Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:35
> >To: azvjc
> >Subject: [az_vjc] UPS experience...
> >
> >
> >This is a little off-topic but I figured that it makes for an
> interesting
> >story. I made contact with someone through usenet who wanted to
> >trade me his
> >half-steel doors and upper sliders for my full steel doors. So I went
> to
> >Mailboxes, Etc. and had them ship them out. It cost a pretty penny
> just for
> >packaging. Well, the guy sent me pics of the doors when they got
> there.
> >Needless to say, they were trashed. UPS told him that they "aren't a
> moving
> >company" and that either he or Mailboxes, Etc. are responsible for the
> poor
> >packaging (he paid for shipping). Mailboxes, etc is claiming no
> >resposibility. Makes you feel all giddy about UPS, doesn't it? I know
> it
> >makes me feel that way.
> >
> >-Blair
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
13176 From: Hal Loy <tucsonhal@e...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:55pm
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
If we want to avoid scheduling conflicts with other clubs, the Tucson
Roughriders are setting up December 16th for the club Christmas Party. I
like the idea of having it in the Flo Jo area, thanks for thinking of us
poor outcasts in the southern hemisphere. ;-)
Hal Loy
Tucson Rough Riders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@e...
13177 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 27, 2000 10:27pm
Subject: Re: UPS experience...
From the UPS website:
CLAIMS
What do I do if my shipment was damaged?
Call UPS Customer Service at 1-800-PICK-UPS (1-800-742-5877). We will be
happy to assist you in filing a claim. If you are the receiver, call the
person who shipped the package to you and have that person handle the
damaged shipment/claims process.
How do I file a claim with UPS?
After you've spoken to UPS Customer Service, you will be given a claim
number, also known as an LDI number. Then you will need to send us the
following:
1.. A bill including your signature for the damaged goods.
2.. A copy of original invoice or statement to show value of the
merchandise.
3.. A copy of the original shipping receipt.
To obtain the mailing address of your local UPS Claims Office, call UPS
Customer Service at 1-800-PICK-UPS (1-800-742-5877).
How long will it take for my claim to be processed?
Once we receive the required information at the UPS Claims Office, we'll
typically process the claim within five business days.
Hope it helps!
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Get your own free webpage at: http://signup.alloffroad.com
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13178 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 11:42pm
Subject: Re: ride available - FR42
Hi Jon,
Good news! OR Fab called me today and they want to install my knuckle over steering on Friday. So I went ahead and lowered the radiator with the 2" brackets that came with the body lift so I can drive it over there in the morning. Right now the transfercase linkage is disconnected but if I put in the 2" adapter plate temporarily until next week I should be able to make the run. I'm crossing my fingers.....I really want to get out this weekend. I can raise the radiator back up, install the replacement linkages, flush crossmember, and 2" motor mounts when they arrive next week. So I guess I'm in.
Woohoo!
Scott
Jon Loveless wrote:
I don't know if you know Tom Patterson but he is coming Saturday and has offered his shotgun if you want to ride. He has a very well equipped TJ which he only trailers (He runs Mickey Thompson's and they wear too quickly for road use). Nice guy and this should be a quick run - it seems like everyone coming so far is well equipped for this trail.
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
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13179 From: <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:35pm
Subject: Fwd: Christmas Party
From: Flatfenderman@a...
Full-name: Flatfenderman
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:47:47 EDT
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
To: mchat@h...
Mike an X-ma party/run sounds like a lot of fun, I would like the chance meet
some more of the great people in AZVJC. How about doing a gift exchange,
bring a gift, receive a gift. Could be a gag gift or something nice. I like
the idea of being between Phx. and Tucson, I live if Florence.
Speaking of living in Florence, If during the Jamboree someone breaks
something or needs a welder I would be happy to offer the use of my tools and
garage. It would even be possible to drag in the most severely wounded on my
trailer. I live only 15 miles from the camp site and will be home every
night.
Chris Lewis
www.azrocks.alloffroad.com
13180 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 6:13am
Subject: FINAL Saturday Run - FR42
This looks like the final list of those going on FR42 this weekend. If I missed anyone, just show up. We will definitely have time for some play.
Dale Schuler
Darren Richards
Aaron (where have you been??)
Bob Nyberg
Ken Seipp
Rick Norman
Ken (?)
Randy Davis
Mike Chatfield
John Norton
Tom Patterson
Devon Whitney + Toyota P/U
Glen Davis ** definite maybe
Scott Kruize ** definite maybe
DIRECTIONS TO BARTLETT LAKE:
Take Pima Road or Scottsdale Road NORTH to the end (Scottsdale Rd actually changes names to Tom Darlington Rd. Turn Right by the Shell Station onto Cave Creek Rd.). They both end at E. Cave Creek Road in Carefree. Go East to the Bartlett Lake turnoff. Make the right hand turn on Bartlett Lake Rd and go 14 miles to the Pay Station.
We will depart the Pay Station at Bartlett Lake at about 8AM - probably done by noon or so.
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
13181 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 6:22am
Subject: Re: FINAL Saturday Run - FR42
This time Tom P. will get to finish the trail instead of turning around to
make sure I get back out alive...... Damn newbies.... :)
Have fun gang.. I'll try tr42 agian when I have a locker...
Dave AZXJ
>From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
>To: az_vjc@egroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] FINAL Saturday Run - FR42
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:13:15 -0700
>
>This looks like the final list of those going on FR42 this weekend. If I
>missed anyone, just show up. We will definitely have time for some play.
>
>Dale Schuler
>Darren Richards
>Aaron (where have you been??)
>Bob Nyberg
>Ken Seipp
>Rick Norman
>Ken (?)
>Randy Davis
>Mike Chatfield
>John Norton
>Tom Patterson
>Devon Whitney + Toyota P/U
>Glen Davis ** definite maybe
>Scott Kruize ** definite maybe
>
>DIRECTIONS TO BARTLETT LAKE:
>Take Pima Road or Scottsdale Road NORTH to the end (Scottsdale Rd actually
>changes names to Tom Darlington Rd. Turn Right by the Shell Station onto
>Cave Creek Rd.). They both end at E. Cave Creek Road in Carefree. Go East
>to the Bartlett Lake turnoff. Make the right hand turn on Bartlett Lake Rd
>and go 14 miles to the Pay Station.
>
>We will depart the Pay Station at Bartlett Lake at about 8AM - probably
>done by noon or so.
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------
>Jon Loveless
>(602)432-7860 cell
>(480)816-6240 home
>jonloveless@m...
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13182 From: Mike <mchat@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:08am
Subject: RE: Christmas Party
Looks as though Florence Junction is the ideal place to have our Christmas
party.
Which leaves the question: Which weekend?
Since most "real" clubs have their party the 2nd or 3rd weekend in December,
we could have ours on the 1st weekend (December 2 & 3rd)
I think a gift exchange is a good idea; something like:
If you want to participate, bring a gift. If you're a guy make it a gift
for a guy, if you're a gal make it a gift for a gal.
And we'd need to set a price range.
For the kids we could have a Santa, if we want Santa to hand out gifts then
we'll need the parents to bring them.. or something along those lines.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
- Mike
13183 From: Bob Nyberg <r.nyberg@w...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:08am
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
The Mesa 4 Wheelers party is December 2. FYI
Bob
Hal Loy wrote:
> If we want to avoid scheduling conflicts with other clubs, the Tucson
> Roughriders are setting up December 16th for the club Christmas Party. I
> like the idea of having it in the Flo Jo area, thanks for thinking of us
> poor outcasts in the southern hemisphere. ;-)
>
> Hal Loy
> Tucson Rough Riders
> AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> ASA4WDC
> tucsonhal@e...
13184 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:27am
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
Well...we're not going to be able to pick a date in Dec w/o running across
some conflict w/ another club. My thought is to just pick a date that works
for most of us. Dec 2-3 works for me.
On gifts, my suggestion would be to not be gender based, since there will
ultimately be gifts that won't match. Rather, just make it Jeep or Jeep
related (now...how do I rape those old bumpers I've been trying to get rid
of :o). Works for guys and gals. One gift per vehicle. My 2 cents anyway.
We can organized several runs...class 2 scenic...class 3 more challenging...
and class 4.
Should be a blast.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mchat@h...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>
> Looks as though Florence Junction is the ideal place to have our Christmas
> party.
> Which leaves the question: Which weekend?
> Since most "real" clubs have their party the 2nd or 3rd weekend in
December,
> we could have ours on the 1st weekend (December 2 & 3rd)
>
> I think a gift exchange is a good idea; something like:
> If you want to participate, bring a gift. If you're a guy make it a gift
> for a guy, if you're a gal make it a gift for a gal.
> And we'd need to set a price range.
>
> For the kids we could have a Santa, if we want Santa to hand out gifts
then
> we'll need the parents to bring them.. or something along those lines.
>
> Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
>
13185 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:40am
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
OOPS...I meant wrap...not rape those old bumpers LOL!
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>; "Mike" <mchat@h...>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
> Well...we're not going to be able to pick a date in Dec w/o running across
> some conflict w/ another club. My thought is to just pick a date that
works
> for most of us. Dec 2-3 works for me.
>
> On gifts, my suggestion would be to not be gender based, since there will
> ultimately be gifts that won't match. Rather, just make it Jeep or Jeep
> related (now...how do I rape those old bumpers I've been trying to get rid
> of :o). Works for guys and gals. One gift per vehicle. My 2 cents anyway.
>
> We can organized several runs...class 2 scenic...class 3 more
challenging...
> and class 4.
>
> Should be a blast.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <mchat@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:08 AM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>
>
> >
> > Looks as though Florence Junction is the ideal place to have our
Christmas
> > party.
> > Which leaves the question: Which weekend?
> > Since most "real" clubs have their party the 2nd or 3rd weekend in
> December,
> > we could have ours on the 1st weekend (December 2 & 3rd)
> >
> > I think a gift exchange is a good idea; something like:
> > If you want to participate, bring a gift. If you're a guy make it a
gift
> > for a guy, if you're a gal make it a gift for a gal.
> > And we'd need to set a price range.
> >
> > For the kids we could have a Santa, if we want Santa to hand out gifts
> then
> > we'll need the parents to bring them.. or something along those lines.
> >
> > Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
13186 From: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:39am
Subject: New poll for az_vjc
Enter your vote today! Check out the new poll for the az_vjc
group:
Which weekend is best for the AzVJC
Christmas Party?
o December 2nd & 3rd
o December 9th & 10th
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://www.egroups.com/polls/az_vjc
Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the eGroups
web site listed above.
Thanks!
13187 From: Leah Eliscu <jeep@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 6:52am
Subject: TR-Tucson - Rice Peak
This is a pre-run for TDD.
This will be the firrst time I have lead Rice Peak.
(always followed)
Anyone interested meet at the "usual place"
Oracle and Magee in front of Trader Joe's
9AM
Bring lunch
Rated 3.0 -slight challenge for stock vehicles
CB channel 4
Questions? e-mail me or call 546-0501
Leah
13163 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 6:46pm
Subject: RE: Christmas Party
Hmmmm.....that does sound pretty good. And a great opportunity for those
who have been thinking "I'll mail my user fee in to State Trust next week"
to actually get their user permit. By doing so, those who observe realize
there are more folks recreating on State Trust Land and WE have a bigger
influence on decisions being made.
OK....the meds are kicking in and I think I'll go get some dinner. Ah yes,
much better.
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:41 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com; Mike
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
No fees. It is, however, State Trust Land. I have a general use permit, as
do other members in the club. I really don't think we'd have much to worry
about.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mchat@h...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
> That's kind of the area I was thinking too.
> I wonder what kind of fees would be involved to use the Jamboree site?
> Plus with the variety and number of trails out there, there'd be something
> for everyone.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:10 PM
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com; Chatfield, Mike
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>
> Great Idea! Maybe somewhere over in the Mineral Mountain area
> (Florence/Florence Junction) so it's a little close to our Tucson
> Members...just a thought.
>
> Doug
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chatfield, Mike" <mchat@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 2:15 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>
>
> > Hey All,
> >
> > What kind of interest is there in having an Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > Christmas Party?
> >
> > Some thoughts:
> >
> > 1. Dates. Best bet would be to have it one of the first two weekends
in
> > December. Also since many AzVJCers also belong to other clubs, it would
> be
> > wise to ensure that our date doesn't conflict with the majority of
these.
> > Also I think this should be a weekend campout, for those desiring to
stay
> > overnight. Saturday would be the main day with short morning trail runs
> and
> > a potluck afternoon/evening, possibly a night run for those interested.
> > Sunday could be more trail runs followed by a camp cleanup.
> >
> > 2. Where: State Land vs. Az State Trust Land vs US Forest. What are
the
> > pros and cons of each? What fees are applicable for each? What permits
> are
> > required for each? Also since the majority of AzVJCers are either in the
> > Phoenix area or the Tucson area, someplace between Phoenix and Tucson?
> >
> > 3. Gifts: Have a "Dirty Santa" participate-if-you-want-to gift
exchange
> > for the adults. A "real" Santa for the younger kids.
> >
> > This could be a great time to meet all those AzVJCers that you haven't
> > managed to catch a trail with.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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13164 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 7:52pm
Subject: Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
Hello all,
I received a call from Stacy at Metcalf this evening. She was very apologetic and explained that they have been busy trying to fill orders and fight the forest fires that are going on very close to them. She admitted that they they failed in the area of customer service and she says this has been an eye opener for them. They seem like very good people that are still learning to juggle the hectic day to day operations of a startup company. From what I've read and heard they do have excellent products. Stacy offered a full refund if I wasn't happy and I said that I will install the product next week and make my decision. I have no reason to believe that it is nothing less than top notch quality.
I will post some pics and a review once I've had a chance to install the 2" motor mounts and flush crossmember early next week.
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13165 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 27, 2000 8:06pm
Subject: Re: Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
That must be Scott, I've been in contact with Brennan Metcalf and he seems to be quite a great people.
We all have bad days, or bad weeks, I hope to hear good impressions from you about their products, the flat skidplate looks soo temptating!
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----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Kruize
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Cc: sales@metcalfmotorsports.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 9:52 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
Hello all,
I received a call from Stacy at Metcalf this evening. She was very apologetic and explained that they have been busy trying to fill orders and fight the forest fires that are going on very close to them. She admitted that they they failed in the area of customer service and she says this has been an eye opener for them. They seem like very good people that are still learning to juggle the hectic day to day operations of a startup company. From what I've read and heard they do have excellent products. Stacy offered a full refund if I wasn't happy and I said that I will install the product next week and make my decision. I have no reason to believe that it is nothing less than top notch quality.
I will post some pics and a review once I've had a chance to install the 2" motor mounts and flush crossmember early next week.
Scott Kruize - OSM TJ
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13166 From: Mike Pawlowski <mikepawlowski@e...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 1:08pm
Subject: Off Topic - Fridge For Sale
Hey Guys,
As I mentioned Earlier, I am moving, and have to much stuff... A Full-Size Fridge (Works great as a garage fridge). First $40 takes it....
Regards,
- Mike
13167 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:04pm
Subject: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
Hey All,
I got this off one of the links on the website. Can you help this Jeeper
out with info he's looking for? I'm not in the area anymore so don't
feel I can answer this one.
Thanks,
Jim Yucca-man@juno.com
Dirty 1/2 dozen - Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
http://azvjc.web.com
89 Cherokee 73 CJ5 (RIP)
From: "Slavick" slavick@t...
To: Yucca-man@j...
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 17:52:06 -0700
Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
This not a suggestion but a request for info on roads.
On I-40 between Topock(Needles) and Kingman is a place called Yucca. From there is a dirt road to ghost town Signal and then my map shows the road ending at Alamo Lake. After a gap, my map shows the road starting up again on the south side of Alamo Lake and then going out to AZ93 near the intersection with AZ71. My question is: my map misprinted and the road is actually a through road or if not, is it possible to go cross country and pick up the road anyway?
The second question is about Organ Pipe Cactus NM. My map shows a "trail" going out the west side of the NM. Do you know anything about the "trail"? Is it a footpath or is it negotiable by Jeep.
My Jeep is a 2000 Wrangler 4 liter w/auto and stock wheels and tires. Let my veh (or lack of a suitable veh) enter into your advice about those roads.
Thanks
John Slavick
13168 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:04pm
Subject: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
Hey All,
I got this off one of the links on the website. Can you help this Jeeper
out with info he's looking for? I'm not in the area anymore so don't
feel I can answer this one.
Thanks,
Jim Yucca-man@juno.com
Dirty 1/2 dozen - Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
http://azvjc.web.com
89 Cherokee 73 CJ5 (RIP)
From: "Slavick" slavick@t...
To: Yucca-man@j...
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 17:52:06 -0700
Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
This not a suggestion but a request for info on roads.
On I-40 between Topock(Needles) and Kingman is a place called Yucca. From there is a dirt road to ghost town Signal and then my map shows the road ending at Alamo Lake. After a gap, my map shows the road starting up again on the south side of Alamo Lake and then going out to AZ93 near the intersection with AZ71. My question is: my map misprinted and the road is actually a through road or if not, is it possible to go cross country and pick up the road anyway?
The second question is about Organ Pipe Cactus NM. My map shows a "trail" going out the west side of the NM. Do you know anything about the "trail"? Is it a footpath or is it negotiable by Jeep.
My Jeep is a 2000 Wrangler 4 liter w/auto and stock wheels and tires. Let my veh (or lack of a suitable veh) enter into your advice about those roads.
Thanks
John Slavick
13169 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:38pm
Subject: RE: Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
Scott,
I am very glad to see that they called you. That says a lot for the company right there, in my opinion. If they didn't care about customer service, they would not have wasted the call to get in touch with you. I hope you are happy after the install. Be sure to post some pics and give us the initial impression of it.
later......Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Kruize [mailto:osmtj@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 7:52 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Cc: sales@metcalfmotorsports.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Better news from Metcalf Motorsports
Hello all,
I received a call from Stacy at Metcalf this evening. She was very apologetic and explained that they have been busy trying to fill orders and fight the forest fires that are going on very close to them. She admitted that they they failed in the area of customer service and she says this has been an eye opener for them. They seem like very good people that are still learning to juggle the hectic day to day operations of a startup company. From what I've read and heard they do have excellent products. Stacy offered a full refund if I wasn't happy and I said that I will install the product next week and make my decision. I have no reason to believe that it is nothing less than top notch quality.
I will post some pics and a review once I've had a chance to install the 2" motor mounts and flush crossmember early next week.
Scott Kruize - OSM TJ
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13170 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:37pm
Subject: For Sale
I'm selling my rear bumper and swing out for my TJ in order to prototype a
new one. It's going to be almost identical only a bit bigger. If you want
pictures just let me know. I'm also going to sell my front bumper to build
a new one with integrated winch mount. I want $175 for the rear bumper w/
swing out and $125 for the front bumper. These are priced this low to move
them quickly and let me get the steel to prototype a new set.
Pete
13171 From: Roxie <Roxie@t...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 8:49pm
Subject: John - I need your address!!
The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini Top to - please resend me
your address!! I have it all ready to ship and my computer...uh...fell
down last night. The lovely people at gateway will have it back to me by
next week!! Augh!!
Anyway - please email me your address off-list! Thanks!
-Stacy-Michelle
"Yes, I *know* TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
13172 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:05pm
Subject: RE: John - I need your address!!
Stacy-Michelle,
You cracked me up with that one. I have a very good friend who has a
daughter named Dusty. Dusty's husband is named John. My friend almost
always refers to him as Dusty's John in order to NOT get him confused with
some other relative in the family whose name is also John. Of course, I
give her quite a bad time about her daughter and her John.
So....you start out with "The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini
Top...."
Yep....hmmm......so you have your own John too? <G> j/k
later......Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: Roxie [mailto:Roxie@t...]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:50 PM
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] John - I need your address!!
The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini Top to - please resend me
your address!! I have it all ready to ship and my computer...uh...fell
down last night. The lovely people at gateway will have it back to me by
next week!! Augh!!
Anyway - please email me your address off-list! Thanks!
-Stacy-Michelle
"Yes, I *know* TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
13173 From: Roxie <Roxie@t...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:29pm
Subject: RE: John - I need your address!!
Well, he's not "my own" John...I was just giving him a bikini top...but
at the rate I mail things, I could probably just bring it down to him in
a couple weeks ;)
Stacy-Michelle
"Yes, I know TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
-----Original Message-----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@u...>
To: "Roxie" <Roxie@t...>, <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:05:32 -0700
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] John - I need your address!!
> Stacy-Michelle,
>
> You cracked me up with that one. I have a very good friend who has a
> daughter named Dusty. Dusty's husband is named John. My friend almost
> always refers to him as Dusty's John in order to NOT get him confused
> with
> some other relative in the family whose name is also John. Of course,
> I
> give her quite a bad time about her daughter and her John.
>
> So....you start out with "The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini
> Top...."
>
> Yep....hmmm......so you have your own John too? <G> j/k
>
> later......Stu
>
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
> Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roxie [mailto:Roxie@t...]
> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] John - I need your address!!
>
>
> The John that I was sending the Jeep Bikini Top to - please resend me
> your address!! I have it all ready to ship and my computer...uh...fell
> down last night. The lovely people at gateway will have it back to me
> by
> next week!! Augh!!
>
> Anyway - please email me your address off-list! Thanks!
>
> -Stacy-Michelle
> "Yes, I *know* TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
13174 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:40pm
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
Sounds like fun,
Set it up.. I am sure most will attend...
dave
>From: "Chatfield, Mike" <mchat@h...>
>To: "'az_vjc@egroups.com'" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:15:50 -0700
>
>Hey All,
>
>What kind of interest is there in having an Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
>Christmas Party?
>
>Some thoughts:
>
>1. Dates. Best bet would be to have it one of the first two weekends in
>December. Also since many AzVJCers also belong to other clubs, it would be
>wise to ensure that our date doesn't conflict with the majority of these.
>Also I think this should be a weekend campout, for those desiring to stay
>overnight. Saturday would be the main day with short morning trail runs
>and
>a potluck afternoon/evening, possibly a night run for those interested.
>Sunday could be more trail runs followed by a camp cleanup.
>
>2. Where: State Land vs. Az State Trust Land vs US Forest. What are the
>pros and cons of each? What fees are applicable for each? What permits are
>required for each? Also since the majority of AzVJCers are either in the
>Phoenix area or the Tucson area, someplace between Phoenix and Tucson?
>
>3. Gifts: Have a "Dirty Santa" participate-if-you-want-to gift exchange
>for the adults. A "real" Santa for the younger kids.
>
>This could be a great time to meet all those AzVJCers that you haven't
>managed to catch a trail with.
>
>What do you think?
>
>- Mike
>
>
>
>
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13175 From: Roxie <Roxie@t...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:43pm
Subject: RE: UPS experience...
I deal with UPS a LOT with work - and here's the deal:
1) Mailboxes etc - I don't know if you can ***** them out for it, all
they did was box it...
2) UPS *MAY* be responsible for up to a whole $100 if you can show that
the box was really beat up in the whole process (usually not hard, they
beat up everything).
3) If you declaired a value, UPS *MAY* be responsible for up to what you
declaired. Once again, you have to show that they beat the hell out of
it.
4) UPS can also say "It wasn't packaged correctly" - but for other than
glass items and computer items, I don't believe they have a really set
requirements for packaging.
5) I'd give the guy who said UPS wasn't a moving company a piece of my
mind...then I'd give his manager a piece of my mind. They ARE a moving
company. You are using them to ship stuff!!! WHAT you ship (provided it
is legal items) is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS. WHAT their business is, would
be to get the items to their destination in a safe and somewhat speedy
manager. THAT IS THERE JOB!
Stacy-Michelle
"Yes, I know TheJeepGoddess.com isn't working"
-----Original Message-----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@u...>
To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:08:57 -0700
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] UPS experience...
> First question....was insurance purchased when the doors where shipped?
> If
> so, time to collect. Also, ask UPS just what they call it when making
> a box
> shipped from "City A" appear several days later in "City B". Gosh, it
> sure
> sounds like they are moving freight to me. If the package/packaging
> was
> accepted by UPS (it obviously was), then it obviously met their
> standards
> for shipping. If you paid Mailboxes for packing up the doors, then
> they are
> responsible....just as if you had paid a mechanic to fix your Jeep and
> he
> did it wrong.
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
> http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Blair Bendler [mailto:blairb@r...]
> >Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:35
> >To: azvjc
> >Subject: [az_vjc] UPS experience...
> >
> >
> >This is a little off-topic but I figured that it makes for an
> interesting
> >story. I made contact with someone through usenet who wanted to
> >trade me his
> >half-steel doors and upper sliders for my full steel doors. So I went
> to
> >Mailboxes, Etc. and had them ship them out. It cost a pretty penny
> just for
> >packaging. Well, the guy sent me pics of the doors when they got
> there.
> >Needless to say, they were trashed. UPS told him that they "aren't a
> moving
> >company" and that either he or Mailboxes, Etc. are responsible for the
> poor
> >packaging (he paid for shipping). Mailboxes, etc is claiming no
> >resposibility. Makes you feel all giddy about UPS, doesn't it? I know
> it
> >makes me feel that way.
> >
> >-Blair
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
13176 From: Hal Loy <tucsonhal@e...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:55pm
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
If we want to avoid scheduling conflicts with other clubs, the Tucson
Roughriders are setting up December 16th for the club Christmas Party. I
like the idea of having it in the Flo Jo area, thanks for thinking of us
poor outcasts in the southern hemisphere. ;-)
Hal Loy
Tucson Rough Riders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@e...
13177 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 27, 2000 10:27pm
Subject: Re: UPS experience...
From the UPS website:
CLAIMS
What do I do if my shipment was damaged?
Call UPS Customer Service at 1-800-PICK-UPS (1-800-742-5877). We will be
happy to assist you in filing a claim. If you are the receiver, call the
person who shipped the package to you and have that person handle the
damaged shipment/claims process.
How do I file a claim with UPS?
After you've spoken to UPS Customer Service, you will be given a claim
number, also known as an LDI number. Then you will need to send us the
following:
1.. A bill including your signature for the damaged goods.
2.. A copy of original invoice or statement to show value of the
merchandise.
3.. A copy of the original shipping receipt.
To obtain the mailing address of your local UPS Claims Office, call UPS
Customer Service at 1-800-PICK-UPS (1-800-742-5877).
How long will it take for my claim to be processed?
Once we receive the required information at the UPS Claims Office, we'll
typically process the claim within five business days.
Hope it helps!
Jesus Chio: http://www.alloffroad.com
Get your own free webpage at: http://signup.alloffroad.com
Lets make a better world, for our parents, us, for our children, for anyone.
YO.
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13178 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 11:42pm
Subject: Re: ride available - FR42
Hi Jon,
Good news! OR Fab called me today and they want to install my knuckle over steering on Friday. So I went ahead and lowered the radiator with the 2" brackets that came with the body lift so I can drive it over there in the morning. Right now the transfercase linkage is disconnected but if I put in the 2" adapter plate temporarily until next week I should be able to make the run. I'm crossing my fingers.....I really want to get out this weekend. I can raise the radiator back up, install the replacement linkages, flush crossmember, and 2" motor mounts when they arrive next week. So I guess I'm in.
Woohoo!
Scott
Jon Loveless wrote:
I don't know if you know Tom Patterson but he is coming Saturday and has offered his shotgun if you want to ride. He has a very well equipped TJ which he only trailers (He runs Mickey Thompson's and they wear too quickly for road use). Nice guy and this should be a quick run - it seems like everyone coming so far is well equipped for this trail.
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
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13179 From: <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Thu Sep 28, 2000 9:35pm
Subject: Fwd: Christmas Party
From: Flatfenderman@a...
Full-name: Flatfenderman
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:47:47 EDT
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
To: mchat@h...
Mike an X-ma party/run sounds like a lot of fun, I would like the chance meet
some more of the great people in AZVJC. How about doing a gift exchange,
bring a gift, receive a gift. Could be a gag gift or something nice. I like
the idea of being between Phx. and Tucson, I live if Florence.
Speaking of living in Florence, If during the Jamboree someone breaks
something or needs a welder I would be happy to offer the use of my tools and
garage. It would even be possible to drag in the most severely wounded on my
trailer. I live only 15 miles from the camp site and will be home every
night.
Chris Lewis
www.azrocks.alloffroad.com
13180 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 6:13am
Subject: FINAL Saturday Run - FR42
This looks like the final list of those going on FR42 this weekend. If I missed anyone, just show up. We will definitely have time for some play.
Dale Schuler
Darren Richards
Aaron (where have you been??)
Bob Nyberg
Ken Seipp
Rick Norman
Ken (?)
Randy Davis
Mike Chatfield
John Norton
Tom Patterson
Devon Whitney + Toyota P/U
Glen Davis ** definite maybe
Scott Kruize ** definite maybe
DIRECTIONS TO BARTLETT LAKE:
Take Pima Road or Scottsdale Road NORTH to the end (Scottsdale Rd actually changes names to Tom Darlington Rd. Turn Right by the Shell Station onto Cave Creek Rd.). They both end at E. Cave Creek Road in Carefree. Go East to the Bartlett Lake turnoff. Make the right hand turn on Bartlett Lake Rd and go 14 miles to the Pay Station.
We will depart the Pay Station at Bartlett Lake at about 8AM - probably done by noon or so.
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
13181 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 6:22am
Subject: Re: FINAL Saturday Run - FR42
This time Tom P. will get to finish the trail instead of turning around to
make sure I get back out alive...... Damn newbies.... :)
Have fun gang.. I'll try tr42 agian when I have a locker...
Dave AZXJ
>From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
>To: az_vjc@egroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] FINAL Saturday Run - FR42
>Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:13:15 -0700
>
>This looks like the final list of those going on FR42 this weekend. If I
>missed anyone, just show up. We will definitely have time for some play.
>
>Dale Schuler
>Darren Richards
>Aaron (where have you been??)
>Bob Nyberg
>Ken Seipp
>Rick Norman
>Ken (?)
>Randy Davis
>Mike Chatfield
>John Norton
>Tom Patterson
>Devon Whitney + Toyota P/U
>Glen Davis ** definite maybe
>Scott Kruize ** definite maybe
>
>DIRECTIONS TO BARTLETT LAKE:
>Take Pima Road or Scottsdale Road NORTH to the end (Scottsdale Rd actually
>changes names to Tom Darlington Rd. Turn Right by the Shell Station onto
>Cave Creek Rd.). They both end at E. Cave Creek Road in Carefree. Go East
>to the Bartlett Lake turnoff. Make the right hand turn on Bartlett Lake Rd
>and go 14 miles to the Pay Station.
>
>We will depart the Pay Station at Bartlett Lake at about 8AM - probably
>done by noon or so.
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------------------
>Jon Loveless
>(602)432-7860 cell
>(480)816-6240 home
>jonloveless@m...
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13182 From: Mike <mchat@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:08am
Subject: RE: Christmas Party
Looks as though Florence Junction is the ideal place to have our Christmas
party.
Which leaves the question: Which weekend?
Since most "real" clubs have their party the 2nd or 3rd weekend in December,
we could have ours on the 1st weekend (December 2 & 3rd)
I think a gift exchange is a good idea; something like:
If you want to participate, bring a gift. If you're a guy make it a gift
for a guy, if you're a gal make it a gift for a gal.
And we'd need to set a price range.
For the kids we could have a Santa, if we want Santa to hand out gifts then
we'll need the parents to bring them.. or something along those lines.
Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
- Mike
13183 From: Bob Nyberg <r.nyberg@w...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:08am
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
The Mesa 4 Wheelers party is December 2. FYI
Bob
Hal Loy wrote:
> If we want to avoid scheduling conflicts with other clubs, the Tucson
> Roughriders are setting up December 16th for the club Christmas Party. I
> like the idea of having it in the Flo Jo area, thanks for thinking of us
> poor outcasts in the southern hemisphere. ;-)
>
> Hal Loy
> Tucson Rough Riders
> AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> ASA4WDC
> tucsonhal@e...
13184 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:27am
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
Well...we're not going to be able to pick a date in Dec w/o running across
some conflict w/ another club. My thought is to just pick a date that works
for most of us. Dec 2-3 works for me.
On gifts, my suggestion would be to not be gender based, since there will
ultimately be gifts that won't match. Rather, just make it Jeep or Jeep
related (now...how do I rape those old bumpers I've been trying to get rid
of :o). Works for guys and gals. One gift per vehicle. My 2 cents anyway.
We can organized several runs...class 2 scenic...class 3 more challenging...
and class 4.
Should be a blast.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike" <mchat@h...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:08 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>
> Looks as though Florence Junction is the ideal place to have our Christmas
> party.
> Which leaves the question: Which weekend?
> Since most "real" clubs have their party the 2nd or 3rd weekend in
December,
> we could have ours on the 1st weekend (December 2 & 3rd)
>
> I think a gift exchange is a good idea; something like:
> If you want to participate, bring a gift. If you're a guy make it a gift
> for a guy, if you're a gal make it a gift for a gal.
> And we'd need to set a price range.
>
> For the kids we could have a Santa, if we want Santa to hand out gifts
then
> we'll need the parents to bring them.. or something along those lines.
>
> Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
>
> - Mike
>
>
>
>
13185 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:40am
Subject: Re: Christmas Party
OOPS...I meant wrap...not rape those old bumpers LOL!
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>; "Mike" <mchat@h...>
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
> Well...we're not going to be able to pick a date in Dec w/o running across
> some conflict w/ another club. My thought is to just pick a date that
works
> for most of us. Dec 2-3 works for me.
>
> On gifts, my suggestion would be to not be gender based, since there will
> ultimately be gifts that won't match. Rather, just make it Jeep or Jeep
> related (now...how do I rape those old bumpers I've been trying to get rid
> of :o). Works for guys and gals. One gift per vehicle. My 2 cents anyway.
>
> We can organized several runs...class 2 scenic...class 3 more
challenging...
> and class 4.
>
> Should be a blast.
>
> Doug
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike" <mchat@h...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2000 7:08 AM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Christmas Party
>
>
> >
> > Looks as though Florence Junction is the ideal place to have our
Christmas
> > party.
> > Which leaves the question: Which weekend?
> > Since most "real" clubs have their party the 2nd or 3rd weekend in
> December,
> > we could have ours on the 1st weekend (December 2 & 3rd)
> >
> > I think a gift exchange is a good idea; something like:
> > If you want to participate, bring a gift. If you're a guy make it a
gift
> > for a guy, if you're a gal make it a gift for a gal.
> > And we'd need to set a price range.
> >
> > For the kids we could have a Santa, if we want Santa to hand out gifts
> then
> > we'll need the parents to bring them.. or something along those lines.
> >
> > Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
> >
> > - Mike
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
13186 From: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 7:39am
Subject: New poll for az_vjc
Enter your vote today! Check out the new poll for the az_vjc
group:
Which weekend is best for the AzVJC
Christmas Party?
o December 2nd & 3rd
o December 9th & 10th
To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://www.egroups.com/polls/az_vjc
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Thanks!
13187 From: Leah Eliscu <jeep@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 29, 2000 6:52am
Subject: TR-Tucson - Rice Peak
This is a pre-run for TDD.
This will be the firrst time I have lead Rice Peak.
(always followed)
Anyone interested meet at the "usual place"
Oracle and Magee in front of Trader Joe's
9AM
Bring lunch
Rated 3.0 -slight challenge for stock vehicles
CB channel 4
Questions? e-mail me or call 546-0501
Leah