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12938 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 21, 2000 7:16am
Subject: RE: October 27 - My Baby is Growing UP!
New ASU sticker
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12939 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 21, 2000 11:42pm
Subject: Re: Mud Springs
I'd rate it a light class 4.
----- Original Message -----
From: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last
To: az_vjc
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
What is the trail rating for Mud Springs and what kind or terrain is it. Any other info on this trail would be appreciated. Some friends are doing this trail on Sunday, I will be going if I can get the traction bar built for my YJ. I have had a bad axle wrap problem since I did the soa. I should know if I am going Saturday, I know that will be a little late of a notice but I will post the details. Thanks in advance.
Eben
92YJ
12940 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 21, 2000 11:39pm
Subject: Re: Alternative Vehicle Conversion
I've read the price of natural gas may double in the next year due to limited supply.
Scott
ba914@aol.com wrote:
I COULD PUT A HOOK UP IN MY GARAGE FOR NATURAL GAS. COST WOULD BE ABOUT 65
CENTS A GALLON.
STEVE
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12941 From: Nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Thu Sep 21, 2000 11:49pm
Subject: fuel
Alternative fuel special on 10 news at 9 fri. night.
Nick
Nnote@neta.com
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12942 From: Chris <cmandrick@v...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 0:25am
Subject: The best place to buy...
And the best place to buy a good Ford NP435 transmission and np208 transfer
case is...
Chris
87 YJ
12943 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 20, 2000 6:13am
Subject: Fw: What Not To Say To A Police Officer
I got this, not trying to offend anyone I think its fun, If I knew this
before I would had save $500! hehehe
Have a good weekend!
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Lets make a better world, for our parents, us, for our children, for anyone.
YO.
> >
> >
> > > >WHAT NOT TO SAY TO A POLICE OFFICER! ~~~
1. I can't reach my license unless you
hold my beer. (OK in Texas)
2. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.
3.Aren't you the guy from the Village People?
4. Hey, you must've been doin' about 125 mph to keep up with me.
Good job!
5. Are You Andy or Barney?
6. I thought you had to be in relatively good physical condition to be a
police officer.
7. You're not gonna check the trunk, are you?
8. I pay your salary!
9. Gee, Officer! That's terrific. The last officer only gave me a warning,
too!
10. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us does.
11. I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there are no other
cars around.
That's how far ahead of me they are.
12. When the Officer says "Gee Son....Your eyes look red, have you been
drinking?"
You probably shouldn't respond with,"Gee Officer your eyes look glazed, have
you been eating doughnuts?"
12944 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 6:59am
Subject: Re: leaf springs
Yes, I have done both. The more leaves you remove, the less height you
will have. But each leaf contributes a different amount. Start with the
little/shortest ones and work your way out. As far as loosening the
clips, I have done this too. It helps the ride slightly but has more
effect on the total amount of flex you can get. The best things you can
do are to grease all of your bushings!! Believe it or not, this had a
great effect on the ride quality when I had 4" springs that were WAY
stiff.
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12945 From: Steve Corbett <scorbphx@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 7:10am
Subject: Re: Re: CB's
on the north side of town Bronco One on 32nd St between Greenway and
Bell
LindaL wrote:
>
> The shop was originally next to the WhataBurger east of Val Vista on Main (east
> of the canal), but I recently saw 'CB Exchange' on a blue building a little
> further east on Main. I bought my Cobra CB (w/weather band) from there. The
> store owner is very knowledgable about radios. If you live in the extreme
> south section of the valley there is a CB store in Eloy that is supposed to be
> pretty reasonable.
>
> FWIW: I bought the CB I use now from Radio Shack during a clearance sale. It
> has a SSB mode which is kind of funky. The old Cobra will be used elsewhere.
>
> Linda
>
> Tom Quinn wrote:
>
> > I was actually thinking they were near Waldo's BBQ which is off Greenfield.
> > But it was a long time ago. I got this address off qwestdex.com. Hard to
> > tell if that's accurate though. I just remember it seemed to take forever
> > to get there!
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LindaL" <minihummer@w...>
> > To: "Tom Quinn" <tom@q...>
> > Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CB's
> >
> > > I think they moved a little further east. Can't remember where, but I
> > > think they are out near Recker & Main now.
> > >
> > > Tom Quinn wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's on Main street east of Val Vista. I personally found them to be
> > > > a tad expensive but they had a decent inventory.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Williams, Rob" <rob@r...> wrote:
> > > > > CB Exchange?
> > > > >
> > > > > where in mesa is it? I tried to look it up in the yahoo yellowpages
> > > > and it
> > > > > didn't find it! -Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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12946 From: <Roxie@t...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 7:10am
Subject: RE: October 27 - My Baby is Growing UP!
I still have the old one. If someone can find me a brighter one (can barely see mine!!) I'd love it!
-SM
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"T.J. Nosmo-King" <ice626@h...> wrote:
>New ASU sticker
12947 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 7:14am
Subject: Re: Re: CB's
Steve Corbett wrote:
> on the north side of town Bronco One on 32nd St between Greenway and
> Bell
I'll second that recommendation.
I've done some business there.
They are good folk.
12948 From: Williams, Rob <rob@r...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 8:04am
Subject: RE: who's got the runs?
I've got the runs! I live in Gilbert so I will be going out here somewhere
(either out near Apache Junction, or Sycamore Creek)if anyone is going out
let me know! -Rob
12949 From: Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 8:04am
Subject: earthinthebalance poll
Linda --
I really hate to respond to this but feel compelled.
A problem with answer #4 (property rights, guns and fences) is that
it would be the end of our 4 wheeling here in the west. If you go
east to where there is a lot more private land (compared to public
lands) you will see much less places to 4 wheel. For example look to
almost the entire east coast or Texas.
We use public lands a lot for our hobby. We (specifically the more
organized 4 wheelers) have a only a small negative impact on the land
when we wheel responsibly. We also can have a large positive impact
when we do thing like clean ups. That is why we shouldn't be
restricted out of existance by the government. Does this make us the
"commies" or socialists for wanting to use these lands? Of course
not.
However, those who want to restrict us also want to "use" these lands
in a way. They want them preserved for "nature". This isn't a bad
use, the problem is they _think_ our use is incompatable. I believe
strongly that these uses are not contradictory. Since our negative
impact is small (as long as we are responsible) "nature" and our
hobby can get along.
(As an aside, I am not anti gun or anti property. If I were to answer
the poll, I would probably answer 4 just to skew the results. The
poll is written so answer three "subsidies: fund clean green
enterprises" is the one that they want to win. Personally I think all
four answers are needed. We need some regulation to prevent
pollution, of course we need Taxes though not overly punitive ones,
R&D helped by public funds are needed. As far as the last goes, I
feel property rights/guns are fundamental to a free society. Those
societies without property rights usually don't think other human
rights are important either. Also societies that don't trust their
citizens with guns tend not to trust them with political power. I
will not answer this poll as it simplifies things by looking for the
"best" way.)
Sorry for the screed,
Joe Larkin
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12950 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 6:58am
Subject: TR: Gas pipeline tonight!
Late notice. Some friends and I are running the gas pipeline trail
tonight and have room for a few more vehicles. This will be a relaxing,
enjoy-the-weather kind of trip although there will be a few challenges
along the way.
This trail runs from Black Canyon City south to Table Mesa Road. It is
a relatively easy trail - maybe a class 3 at most. Although there are
a couple of optional spots that are more difficult. The trail takes
about 3 hours to run. It's mostly a bunch of up-and-down hill stuff
with one short stretch of rock crawling.
We're meeting at the Circle-K on Happy Valley Road and 35th Avenue at 6:45pm
tonight. Pull out time is 7:00pm. If you're interested in going, please
send me an email so I know. Stock vehicles can make this trail with a little
assistance in one or two spots. I recommend some clearance and a limited slip.
Bring a lawn chair - we may stop on top of one of the hills to relax and
enjoy the breeze.
-Roger
12951 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 1:38am
Subject: Re: Re: CB's
went by there yesterday.....the store is empty...and no signs indicating if
they moved to a different locale.....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
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12952 From: <grafik_lar@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 8:47am
Subject: Re: leaf springs
I've Heard of People removing the leaf right above the overload, and
I personally have my clips almost wide open, and it works great, But
I also plan to coat the springs individually with a graphite paint,
which reduces the friction and allows them to slide easier. Removing
one leaf is some work, opening the clips takes about 15 minutes. If
you are going to take them off and remove a leaf you might as well
coat them too, From what I've heard, It makes a big Difference.
Larry 87' Wrangler Sport.
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Quinn" <tom@q...> wrote:
> I have a '91 YJ with a 4" Pro Comp lift. As many of you know, the
> Pro Comp springs are very tight! I've had the lift on for about 18
> months, have taken it off road quite a bit and drive it daily, and
> they're still stiff!
>
> I have gotten 2 suggestions on how to loosen them up.
>
> 1. remove the bottom leaf
> 2. open up the spring clips that hold the packs together
>
> Has anyone by chance done either of these? I'm afraid to loose
some
> height by removing a leaf - is that true? Loosening the clips
sounds
> easiest, but do I have to remove the springs to do that? I guess
> they can be heated up with a torch and pulled open, insert a spacer
> and bend them back, then remove the spacer.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
12953 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 9:09am
Subject: Off the wall question
Need to know if anyone can tell me a great place to watch the sunset? Maybe
along lake pleasant? Just need a really nice setting not too far out of the
valley.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
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12954 From: Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 10:17am
Subject: Dana 44 swap done/ brake bleeding Qs
Sorry for the previous (political) message, this one is much more on
topic.
Put the new axle (D44) in two nights ago. No major problems putting
things back together. I do have a little seep from the diff cover,
less than a drop a day. I will live with it till I finish breaking in
the gears. The axle builder used a gasket rather than hi temp gasket
maker. So score one for the gasket maker over the gasket. Putting the
axle in was easy compared to taking it out.
Last night I bled the brakes but I don't think I did a great job.
Very little air came out. I think I need to bleed them again. I did
the two person pump/hold/unscrew bleeder/wait/rescrew bleeder and
repeat procedure. It seemed to quick for the bubbles to stop. The
brakes work but aren't very firm. Anyone have any suggestions?
FYI -- I sold the axle shafts (thanks Dion). He responded first to my
message on JU. I still have the spider gears and housing. The R&P are
3.07 and are available for free. The carrier is trashed. The housing
including cover are still available so if you want them make an
offer. The housing could be used to replace a bent one or even
better, the brackets could be cut off and welded onto a heavier duty
axle. This could allow a reasonable cheap 8.8 swap if you are handy
with a welder. The 8.8 from an Explorer is superior to a D44 in just
about every way. If I could weld, that would be the way I would have
gone.
FYI*2 -- I got the axle from Drivetrain Direct. They took a OEM TJ
housing and put 4.1 spicer/dana gears, superior axles, Auburn Pro LSD
in. Total cost was (IMO) reasonable. Took about a week and a half to
get after I placed the order.
Joe Larkin
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12955 From: Dion Bozman <amstaff@e...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 9:03am
Subject: Pro Comp spring tricks
Tom, I've got the same springs as you. I don't think I'd remove the bottom
leaf, in fact I added a stock bottom leaf to my rear pack because I was
sagging after adding bumper/carrier combo and full-size spare.
I did, however, loosen the spring clamps and it made a world of difference.
There are two on each leaf pack, front and rear. Just take a torch to each
side of the clamp and heat it up. You've really got to put the heat on it.
When sufficiently hot, use a small prybar and wedge that side up vertically
or close to vertical. Do that with all the clamps and you'll see an
improvement in ride quality and flex.
Also, keep the springs lubricated and you can old loosen the shackle bolt.
Not too loose, obviously, but not torqued all the way down. The lets the
springs twist in the shackle more.
Dion
94YJ Sahara
>>>I have a '91 YJ with a 4" Pro Comp lift. As many of you know, the
Pro Comp springs are very tight! I've had the lift on for about 18
months, have taken it off road quite a bit and drive it daily, and
they're still stiff!
I have gotten 2 suggestions on how to loosen them up.
1. remove the bottom leaf
2. open up the spring clips that hold the packs together
Has anyone by chance done either of these? I'm afraid to loose some
height by removing a leaf - is that true? Loosening the clips sounds
easiest, but do I have to remove the springs to do that? I guess
they can be heated up with a torch and pulled open, insert a spacer
and bend them back, then remove the spacer.
Thanks,
Tom
12956 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 10:49am
Subject: Re: Dana 44 swap done/ brake bleeding Qs
Joe --
Bleeding should be simple. I would expect you to go through at least
two pints of fluid after a rear axle swap ... maybe more. Whenever I
bleed the brakes, I do the following:
Note: Always bleed the longest line first, followed by next longest
line and so on when bleeding a complete system. The term 'longest'
means line length from master cylinder (M/C) to brake drum/caliper.
1. Check the level of the M/C and add fluid if it's less than 1/2
full.
2. Person1 pumps the brakes 4-5 times then keeps pedal down.
3. Person2 opens bleeder 1/4-1/2 turn until pedal depresses.
4. Person2 closes bleeded tight.
5. Person1 lets up pedal.
6. Repeat 1-5 at least 4 times and Person1 has good pedal feel and NO
air bubbles come out of the lines when bleeding.
7. Do same procedure on other drum assy.
Sounds like you were doing it the same way, but it's hard to say. I
just thought I'd share with you how I bleed brakes on my Jeeps. In
your case, you probably have a large part of your rear frame line
full of air, but the lines from the T fitting to the drums might
still have fluid from the previous installation. You might have not
have gotten the air from the frame lines to the drums if you only did
the above procedure once or twice. Just my $0.02
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> Sorry for the previous (political) message, this one is much more on
> topic.
>
> Put the new axle (D44) in two nights ago. No major problems putting
> things back together. I do have a little seep from the diff cover,
> less than a drop a day. I will live with it till I finish breaking
in
> the gears. The axle builder used a gasket rather than hi temp gasket
> maker. So score one for the gasket maker over the gasket. Putting
the
> axle in was easy compared to taking it out.
>
> Last night I bled the brakes but I don't think I did a great job.
> Very little air came out. I think I need to bleed them again. I did
> the two person pump/hold/unscrew bleeder/wait/rescrew bleeder and
> repeat procedure. It seemed to quick for the bubbles to stop. The
> brakes work but aren't very firm. Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> FYI -- I sold the axle shafts (thanks Dion). He responded first to
my
> message on JU. I still have the spider gears and housing. The R&P
are
> 3.07 and are available for free. The carrier is trashed. The housing
> including cover are still available so if you want them make an
> offer. The housing could be used to replace a bent one or even
> better, the brackets could be cut off and welded onto a heavier duty
> axle. This could allow a reasonable cheap 8.8 swap if you are handy
> with a welder. The 8.8 from an Explorer is superior to a D44 in just
> about every way. If I could weld, that would be the way I would have
> gone.
>
> FYI*2 -- I got the axle from Drivetrain Direct. They took a OEM TJ
> housing and put 4.1 spicer/dana gears, superior axles, Auburn Pro
LSD
> in. Total cost was (IMO) reasonable. Took about a week and a half to
> get after I placed the order.
>
> Joe Larkin
>
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12957 From: Jerry <jsteele@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 11:26am
Subject: Re: Dana 44 swap done/ brake bleeding Qs
If your having bleeding problems, one needs to know exactly what kind
of brakes you have. Did you go to disk in the rear? If so, you could
have either of two problems.
The first problem I've seen is the stock master cylinder might not
have enough volume for whatever disk rears are on there, and it will
never get to a point that you don't have to pump it up. In that case
you have to seek out an appropriate master cylinder. For us on our YJ
and custom Dana 44's with disks, it involved swapping the YJ master
for an 86 or so Mustang GT with disk all around master cylinder (then
you get to deal with such details as matching up the fittings).
The second problem is some rear disk setups require you unmount the
caliper and position it such that the bleed valve is the highest
point. This is the situation I encountered on my Classic Bronco with
TSM rear disk brake conversion.
Jerry Steele
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> Sorry for the previous (political) message, this one is much more on
> topic.
>
> Put the new axle (D44) in two nights ago. No major problems putting
> things back together. I do have a little seep from the diff cover,
> less than a drop a day. I will live with it till I finish breaking
in
> the gears. The axle builder used a gasket rather than hi temp gasket
> maker. So score one for the gasket maker over the gasket. Putting
the
> axle in was easy compared to taking it out.
>
> Last night I bled the brakes but I don't think I did a great job.
> Very little air came out. I think I need to bleed them again. I did
> the two person pump/hold/unscrew bleeder/wait/rescrew bleeder and
> repeat procedure. It seemed to quick for the bubbles to stop. The
> brakes work but aren't very firm. Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> FYI -- I sold the axle shafts (thanks Dion). He responded first to
my
> message on JU. I still have the spider gears and housing. The R&P
are
> 3.07 and are available for free. The carrier is trashed. The housing
> including cover are still available so if you want them make an
> offer. The housing could be used to replace a bent one or even
> better, the brackets could be cut off and welded onto a heavier duty
> axle. This could allow a reasonable cheap 8.8 swap if you are handy
> with a welder. The 8.8 from an Explorer is superior to a D44 in just
> about every way. If I could weld, that would be the way I would have
> gone.
>
> FYI*2 -- I got the axle from Drivetrain Direct. They took a OEM TJ
> housing and put 4.1 spicer/dana gears, superior axles, Auburn Pro
LSD
> in. Total cost was (IMO) reasonable. Took about a week and a half to
> get after I placed the order.
>
> Joe Larkin
>
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12958 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 0:13pm
Subject: RE: Mud Springs
I broke a drive shaft strap on a fun section with Lazy boy size rolling rocks(I don't mean beer). That was in my 33" days. Otherwise it is preatty tame.
Hey I have the same issue on my axel. Check out the CJ7 that won the top truck challenge in four wheeler mag, I like the bar he uses and he has about 425hp to deal with and SOA.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:42 PM
To: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last; az_vjc
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
I'd rate it a light class 4.
----- Original Message -----
From: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last
To: az_vjc
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
What is the trail rating for Mud Springs and what kind or terrain is it. Any other info on this trail would be appreciated. Some friends are doing this trail on Sunday, I will be going if I can get the traction bar built for my YJ. I have had a bad axle wrap problem since I did the soa. I should know if I am going Saturday, I know that will be a little late of a notice but I will post the details. Thanks in advance.
Eben
92YJ
12959 From: Jeff G <ZJDreams@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 5:46am
Subject: Shop for axle swap??
Hey guys I recently had the fortune of having a lovely uninsured motorist
with no dl rearend me. My jeep needs a new rear axle and depending on the
price difference I might be able to get a ford 8.8 put in there. It should
be pretty simple because you can find complete 8.8's with 4.10 gears and ls
so all I would need them to do is cut off the old brackets and weld on the
new axle brackets for me. Any shop recommendations or advice?
Jeff
93 ZJ
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12960 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 1:03pm
Subject: RE: Mud Springs
You can not imagine how this week has gone. I am about to buy ten sheep and take my chain saw and live on the Rim and cut wood for a living...Also, they are at home and my access is dead there. I will get it today....somehow....sorry Stu...you did a great job on that damn hill.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@uswest.net]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:48 PM
To: Ross Skinner
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
Hey dude!
Did you get those pics scraped off of the digital yet? Your 1 week photo processing time is almost used up!
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
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-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s2bsi.com]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:13
To: AZVJC (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
I broke a drive shaft strap on a fun section with Lazy boy size rolling rocks(I don't mean beer). That was in my 33" days. Otherwise it is preatty tame.
Hey I have the same issue on my axel. Check out the CJ7 that won the top truck challenge in four wheeler mag, I like the bar he uses and he has about 425hp to deal with and SOA.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:42 PM
To: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last; az_vjc
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
I'd rate it a light class 4.
----- Original Message -----
From: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last
To: az_vjc
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
What is the trail rating for Mud Springs and what kind or terrain is it. Any other info on this trail would be appreciated. Some friends are doing this trail on Sunday, I will be going if I can get the traction bar built for my YJ. I have had a bad axle wrap problem since I did the soa. I should know if I am going Saturday, I know that will be a little late of a notice but I will post the details. Thanks in advance.
Eben
92YJ
12961 From: Larry <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 1:18pm
Subject: axle wrap....... was Mud Springs
That is Sam Patterson. You can see some of the goods on his website: www.samsoffroad.com
He has a slick anti-wrap bar that doesnt hinder articulation in anyway and completely prevents axle wrap. Its a little pricey at $300 but there is some good pics to get ideas to build your own. Rubicon Express sells those same cartridge joints.
Hey I have the same issue on my axel. Check out the CJ7 that won the top truck challenge in four wheeler mag, I like the bar he uses and he has about 425hp to deal with and SOA.
I have had a bad axle wrap problem since I did the soa. I should know if I am going Saturday, I know that will be a little late of a notice but I will post the details. Thanks in advance.
Eben
92YJ
12962 From: <grafik_lar@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 2:29pm
Subject: Off Subject - But Please Help
My Brother is in grave need for a 95 3.0 Caravan Tranmission(3 Speed
auto), Any info on where
to find one cheap would be completely Appreciated, It is for my
brother and they only have one car(the Van) and it is broke, He does
not have much money, if you have info than get back to me and we can
work it out. Please help. If you can find one I will trade my tranny
(turbo 350). For it.
Sincerely Larry 87' Wrangler Sport.
12938 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 21, 2000 7:16am
Subject: RE: October 27 - My Baby is Growing UP!
New ASU sticker
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12939 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Thu Sep 21, 2000 11:42pm
Subject: Re: Mud Springs
I'd rate it a light class 4.
----- Original Message -----
From: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last
To: az_vjc
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
What is the trail rating for Mud Springs and what kind or terrain is it. Any other info on this trail would be appreciated. Some friends are doing this trail on Sunday, I will be going if I can get the traction bar built for my YJ. I have had a bad axle wrap problem since I did the soa. I should know if I am going Saturday, I know that will be a little late of a notice but I will post the details. Thanks in advance.
Eben
92YJ
12940 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Sep 21, 2000 11:39pm
Subject: Re: Alternative Vehicle Conversion
I've read the price of natural gas may double in the next year due to limited supply.
Scott
ba914@aol.com wrote:
I COULD PUT A HOOK UP IN MY GARAGE FOR NATURAL GAS. COST WOULD BE ABOUT 65
CENTS A GALLON.
STEVE
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12941 From: Nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Thu Sep 21, 2000 11:49pm
Subject: fuel
Alternative fuel special on 10 news at 9 fri. night.
Nick
Nnote@neta.com
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12942 From: Chris <cmandrick@v...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 0:25am
Subject: The best place to buy...
And the best place to buy a good Ford NP435 transmission and np208 transfer
case is...
Chris
87 YJ
12943 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Sep 20, 2000 6:13am
Subject: Fw: What Not To Say To A Police Officer
I got this, not trying to offend anyone I think its fun, If I knew this
before I would had save $500! hehehe
Have a good weekend!
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Lets make a better world, for our parents, us, for our children, for anyone.
YO.
> >
> >
> > > >WHAT NOT TO SAY TO A POLICE OFFICER! ~~~
1. I can't reach my license unless you
hold my beer. (OK in Texas)
2. Sorry, Officer, I didn't realize my radar detector wasn't plugged in.
3.Aren't you the guy from the Village People?
4. Hey, you must've been doin' about 125 mph to keep up with me.
Good job!
5. Are You Andy or Barney?
6. I thought you had to be in relatively good physical condition to be a
police officer.
7. You're not gonna check the trunk, are you?
8. I pay your salary!
9. Gee, Officer! That's terrific. The last officer only gave me a warning,
too!
10. Do you know why you pulled me over? Okay, just so one of us does.
11. I was trying to keep up with traffic. Yes, I know there are no other
cars around.
That's how far ahead of me they are.
12. When the Officer says "Gee Son....Your eyes look red, have you been
drinking?"
You probably shouldn't respond with,"Gee Officer your eyes look glazed, have
you been eating doughnuts?"
12944 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 6:59am
Subject: Re: leaf springs
Yes, I have done both. The more leaves you remove, the less height you
will have. But each leaf contributes a different amount. Start with the
little/shortest ones and work your way out. As far as loosening the
clips, I have done this too. It helps the ride slightly but has more
effect on the total amount of flex you can get. The best things you can
do are to grease all of your bushings!! Believe it or not, this had a
great effect on the ride quality when I had 4" springs that were WAY
stiff.
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12945 From: Steve Corbett <scorbphx@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 7:10am
Subject: Re: Re: CB's
on the north side of town Bronco One on 32nd St between Greenway and
Bell
LindaL wrote:
>
> The shop was originally next to the WhataBurger east of Val Vista on Main (east
> of the canal), but I recently saw 'CB Exchange' on a blue building a little
> further east on Main. I bought my Cobra CB (w/weather band) from there. The
> store owner is very knowledgable about radios. If you live in the extreme
> south section of the valley there is a CB store in Eloy that is supposed to be
> pretty reasonable.
>
> FWIW: I bought the CB I use now from Radio Shack during a clearance sale. It
> has a SSB mode which is kind of funky. The old Cobra will be used elsewhere.
>
> Linda
>
> Tom Quinn wrote:
>
> > I was actually thinking they were near Waldo's BBQ which is off Greenfield.
> > But it was a long time ago. I got this address off qwestdex.com. Hard to
> > tell if that's accurate though. I just remember it seemed to take forever
> > to get there!
> >
> > Tom
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "LindaL" <minihummer@w...>
> > To: "Tom Quinn" <tom@q...>
> > Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 6:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: CB's
> >
> > > I think they moved a little further east. Can't remember where, but I
> > > think they are out near Recker & Main now.
> > >
> > > Tom Quinn wrote:
> > >
> > > > It's on Main street east of Val Vista. I personally found them to be
> > > > a tad expensive but they had a decent inventory.
> > > >
> > > > Tom
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Williams, Rob" <rob@r...> wrote:
> > > > > CB Exchange?
> > > > >
> > > > > where in mesa is it? I tried to look it up in the yahoo yellowpages
> > > > and it
> > > > > didn't find it! -Rob
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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12946 From: <Roxie@t...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 7:10am
Subject: RE: October 27 - My Baby is Growing UP!
I still have the old one. If someone can find me a brighter one (can barely see mine!!) I'd love it!
-SM
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>New ASU sticker
12947 From: Daver <daver@c...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 7:14am
Subject: Re: Re: CB's
Steve Corbett wrote:
> on the north side of town Bronco One on 32nd St between Greenway and
> Bell
I'll second that recommendation.
I've done some business there.
They are good folk.
12948 From: Williams, Rob <rob@r...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 8:04am
Subject: RE: who's got the runs?
I've got the runs! I live in Gilbert so I will be going out here somewhere
(either out near Apache Junction, or Sycamore Creek)if anyone is going out
let me know! -Rob
12949 From: Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 8:04am
Subject: earthinthebalance poll
Linda --
I really hate to respond to this but feel compelled.
A problem with answer #4 (property rights, guns and fences) is that
it would be the end of our 4 wheeling here in the west. If you go
east to where there is a lot more private land (compared to public
lands) you will see much less places to 4 wheel. For example look to
almost the entire east coast or Texas.
We use public lands a lot for our hobby. We (specifically the more
organized 4 wheelers) have a only a small negative impact on the land
when we wheel responsibly. We also can have a large positive impact
when we do thing like clean ups. That is why we shouldn't be
restricted out of existance by the government. Does this make us the
"commies" or socialists for wanting to use these lands? Of course
not.
However, those who want to restrict us also want to "use" these lands
in a way. They want them preserved for "nature". This isn't a bad
use, the problem is they _think_ our use is incompatable. I believe
strongly that these uses are not contradictory. Since our negative
impact is small (as long as we are responsible) "nature" and our
hobby can get along.
(As an aside, I am not anti gun or anti property. If I were to answer
the poll, I would probably answer 4 just to skew the results. The
poll is written so answer three "subsidies: fund clean green
enterprises" is the one that they want to win. Personally I think all
four answers are needed. We need some regulation to prevent
pollution, of course we need Taxes though not overly punitive ones,
R&D helped by public funds are needed. As far as the last goes, I
feel property rights/guns are fundamental to a free society. Those
societies without property rights usually don't think other human
rights are important either. Also societies that don't trust their
citizens with guns tend not to trust them with political power. I
will not answer this poll as it simplifies things by looking for the
"best" way.)
Sorry for the screed,
Joe Larkin
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12950 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 6:58am
Subject: TR: Gas pipeline tonight!
Late notice. Some friends and I are running the gas pipeline trail
tonight and have room for a few more vehicles. This will be a relaxing,
enjoy-the-weather kind of trip although there will be a few challenges
along the way.
This trail runs from Black Canyon City south to Table Mesa Road. It is
a relatively easy trail - maybe a class 3 at most. Although there are
a couple of optional spots that are more difficult. The trail takes
about 3 hours to run. It's mostly a bunch of up-and-down hill stuff
with one short stretch of rock crawling.
We're meeting at the Circle-K on Happy Valley Road and 35th Avenue at 6:45pm
tonight. Pull out time is 7:00pm. If you're interested in going, please
send me an email so I know. Stock vehicles can make this trail with a little
assistance in one or two spots. I recommend some clearance and a limited slip.
Bring a lawn chair - we may stop on top of one of the hills to relax and
enjoy the breeze.
-Roger
12951 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 1:38am
Subject: Re: Re: CB's
went by there yesterday.....the store is empty...and no signs indicating if
they moved to a different locale.....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
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12952 From: <grafik_lar@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 8:47am
Subject: Re: leaf springs
I've Heard of People removing the leaf right above the overload, and
I personally have my clips almost wide open, and it works great, But
I also plan to coat the springs individually with a graphite paint,
which reduces the friction and allows them to slide easier. Removing
one leaf is some work, opening the clips takes about 15 minutes. If
you are going to take them off and remove a leaf you might as well
coat them too, From what I've heard, It makes a big Difference.
Larry 87' Wrangler Sport.
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Quinn" <tom@q...> wrote:
> I have a '91 YJ with a 4" Pro Comp lift. As many of you know, the
> Pro Comp springs are very tight! I've had the lift on for about 18
> months, have taken it off road quite a bit and drive it daily, and
> they're still stiff!
>
> I have gotten 2 suggestions on how to loosen them up.
>
> 1. remove the bottom leaf
> 2. open up the spring clips that hold the packs together
>
> Has anyone by chance done either of these? I'm afraid to loose
some
> height by removing a leaf - is that true? Loosening the clips
sounds
> easiest, but do I have to remove the springs to do that? I guess
> they can be heated up with a torch and pulled open, insert a spacer
> and bend them back, then remove the spacer.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tom
12953 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 9:09am
Subject: Off the wall question
Need to know if anyone can tell me a great place to watch the sunset? Maybe
along lake pleasant? Just need a really nice setting not too far out of the
valley.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
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12954 From: Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 10:17am
Subject: Dana 44 swap done/ brake bleeding Qs
Sorry for the previous (political) message, this one is much more on
topic.
Put the new axle (D44) in two nights ago. No major problems putting
things back together. I do have a little seep from the diff cover,
less than a drop a day. I will live with it till I finish breaking in
the gears. The axle builder used a gasket rather than hi temp gasket
maker. So score one for the gasket maker over the gasket. Putting the
axle in was easy compared to taking it out.
Last night I bled the brakes but I don't think I did a great job.
Very little air came out. I think I need to bleed them again. I did
the two person pump/hold/unscrew bleeder/wait/rescrew bleeder and
repeat procedure. It seemed to quick for the bubbles to stop. The
brakes work but aren't very firm. Anyone have any suggestions?
FYI -- I sold the axle shafts (thanks Dion). He responded first to my
message on JU. I still have the spider gears and housing. The R&P are
3.07 and are available for free. The carrier is trashed. The housing
including cover are still available so if you want them make an
offer. The housing could be used to replace a bent one or even
better, the brackets could be cut off and welded onto a heavier duty
axle. This could allow a reasonable cheap 8.8 swap if you are handy
with a welder. The 8.8 from an Explorer is superior to a D44 in just
about every way. If I could weld, that would be the way I would have
gone.
FYI*2 -- I got the axle from Drivetrain Direct. They took a OEM TJ
housing and put 4.1 spicer/dana gears, superior axles, Auburn Pro LSD
in. Total cost was (IMO) reasonable. Took about a week and a half to
get after I placed the order.
Joe Larkin
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12955 From: Dion Bozman <amstaff@e...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 9:03am
Subject: Pro Comp spring tricks
Tom, I've got the same springs as you. I don't think I'd remove the bottom
leaf, in fact I added a stock bottom leaf to my rear pack because I was
sagging after adding bumper/carrier combo and full-size spare.
I did, however, loosen the spring clamps and it made a world of difference.
There are two on each leaf pack, front and rear. Just take a torch to each
side of the clamp and heat it up. You've really got to put the heat on it.
When sufficiently hot, use a small prybar and wedge that side up vertically
or close to vertical. Do that with all the clamps and you'll see an
improvement in ride quality and flex.
Also, keep the springs lubricated and you can old loosen the shackle bolt.
Not too loose, obviously, but not torqued all the way down. The lets the
springs twist in the shackle more.
Dion
94YJ Sahara
>>>I have a '91 YJ with a 4" Pro Comp lift. As many of you know, the
Pro Comp springs are very tight! I've had the lift on for about 18
months, have taken it off road quite a bit and drive it daily, and
they're still stiff!
I have gotten 2 suggestions on how to loosen them up.
1. remove the bottom leaf
2. open up the spring clips that hold the packs together
Has anyone by chance done either of these? I'm afraid to loose some
height by removing a leaf - is that true? Loosening the clips sounds
easiest, but do I have to remove the springs to do that? I guess
they can be heated up with a torch and pulled open, insert a spacer
and bend them back, then remove the spacer.
Thanks,
Tom
12956 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 10:49am
Subject: Re: Dana 44 swap done/ brake bleeding Qs
Joe --
Bleeding should be simple. I would expect you to go through at least
two pints of fluid after a rear axle swap ... maybe more. Whenever I
bleed the brakes, I do the following:
Note: Always bleed the longest line first, followed by next longest
line and so on when bleeding a complete system. The term 'longest'
means line length from master cylinder (M/C) to brake drum/caliper.
1. Check the level of the M/C and add fluid if it's less than 1/2
full.
2. Person1 pumps the brakes 4-5 times then keeps pedal down.
3. Person2 opens bleeder 1/4-1/2 turn until pedal depresses.
4. Person2 closes bleeded tight.
5. Person1 lets up pedal.
6. Repeat 1-5 at least 4 times and Person1 has good pedal feel and NO
air bubbles come out of the lines when bleeding.
7. Do same procedure on other drum assy.
Sounds like you were doing it the same way, but it's hard to say. I
just thought I'd share with you how I bleed brakes on my Jeeps. In
your case, you probably have a large part of your rear frame line
full of air, but the lines from the T fitting to the drums might
still have fluid from the previous installation. You might have not
have gotten the air from the frame lines to the drums if you only did
the above procedure once or twice. Just my $0.02
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> Sorry for the previous (political) message, this one is much more on
> topic.
>
> Put the new axle (D44) in two nights ago. No major problems putting
> things back together. I do have a little seep from the diff cover,
> less than a drop a day. I will live with it till I finish breaking
in
> the gears. The axle builder used a gasket rather than hi temp gasket
> maker. So score one for the gasket maker over the gasket. Putting
the
> axle in was easy compared to taking it out.
>
> Last night I bled the brakes but I don't think I did a great job.
> Very little air came out. I think I need to bleed them again. I did
> the two person pump/hold/unscrew bleeder/wait/rescrew bleeder and
> repeat procedure. It seemed to quick for the bubbles to stop. The
> brakes work but aren't very firm. Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> FYI -- I sold the axle shafts (thanks Dion). He responded first to
my
> message on JU. I still have the spider gears and housing. The R&P
are
> 3.07 and are available for free. The carrier is trashed. The housing
> including cover are still available so if you want them make an
> offer. The housing could be used to replace a bent one or even
> better, the brackets could be cut off and welded onto a heavier duty
> axle. This could allow a reasonable cheap 8.8 swap if you are handy
> with a welder. The 8.8 from an Explorer is superior to a D44 in just
> about every way. If I could weld, that would be the way I would have
> gone.
>
> FYI*2 -- I got the axle from Drivetrain Direct. They took a OEM TJ
> housing and put 4.1 spicer/dana gears, superior axles, Auburn Pro
LSD
> in. Total cost was (IMO) reasonable. Took about a week and a half to
> get after I placed the order.
>
> Joe Larkin
>
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12957 From: Jerry <jsteele@a...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 11:26am
Subject: Re: Dana 44 swap done/ brake bleeding Qs
If your having bleeding problems, one needs to know exactly what kind
of brakes you have. Did you go to disk in the rear? If so, you could
have either of two problems.
The first problem I've seen is the stock master cylinder might not
have enough volume for whatever disk rears are on there, and it will
never get to a point that you don't have to pump it up. In that case
you have to seek out an appropriate master cylinder. For us on our YJ
and custom Dana 44's with disks, it involved swapping the YJ master
for an 86 or so Mustang GT with disk all around master cylinder (then
you get to deal with such details as matching up the fittings).
The second problem is some rear disk setups require you unmount the
caliper and position it such that the bleed valve is the highest
point. This is the situation I encountered on my Classic Bronco with
TSM rear disk brake conversion.
Jerry Steele
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> Sorry for the previous (political) message, this one is much more on
> topic.
>
> Put the new axle (D44) in two nights ago. No major problems putting
> things back together. I do have a little seep from the diff cover,
> less than a drop a day. I will live with it till I finish breaking
in
> the gears. The axle builder used a gasket rather than hi temp gasket
> maker. So score one for the gasket maker over the gasket. Putting
the
> axle in was easy compared to taking it out.
>
> Last night I bled the brakes but I don't think I did a great job.
> Very little air came out. I think I need to bleed them again. I did
> the two person pump/hold/unscrew bleeder/wait/rescrew bleeder and
> repeat procedure. It seemed to quick for the bubbles to stop. The
> brakes work but aren't very firm. Anyone have any suggestions?
>
> FYI -- I sold the axle shafts (thanks Dion). He responded first to
my
> message on JU. I still have the spider gears and housing. The R&P
are
> 3.07 and are available for free. The carrier is trashed. The housing
> including cover are still available so if you want them make an
> offer. The housing could be used to replace a bent one or even
> better, the brackets could be cut off and welded onto a heavier duty
> axle. This could allow a reasonable cheap 8.8 swap if you are handy
> with a welder. The 8.8 from an Explorer is superior to a D44 in just
> about every way. If I could weld, that would be the way I would have
> gone.
>
> FYI*2 -- I got the axle from Drivetrain Direct. They took a OEM TJ
> housing and put 4.1 spicer/dana gears, superior axles, Auburn Pro
LSD
> in. Total cost was (IMO) reasonable. Took about a week and a half to
> get after I placed the order.
>
> Joe Larkin
>
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12958 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 0:13pm
Subject: RE: Mud Springs
I broke a drive shaft strap on a fun section with Lazy boy size rolling rocks(I don't mean beer). That was in my 33" days. Otherwise it is preatty tame.
Hey I have the same issue on my axel. Check out the CJ7 that won the top truck challenge in four wheeler mag, I like the bar he uses and he has about 425hp to deal with and SOA.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:42 PM
To: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last; az_vjc
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
I'd rate it a light class 4.
----- Original Message -----
From: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last
To: az_vjc
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
What is the trail rating for Mud Springs and what kind or terrain is it. Any other info on this trail would be appreciated. Some friends are doing this trail on Sunday, I will be going if I can get the traction bar built for my YJ. I have had a bad axle wrap problem since I did the soa. I should know if I am going Saturday, I know that will be a little late of a notice but I will post the details. Thanks in advance.
Eben
92YJ
12959 From: Jeff G <ZJDreams@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 5:46am
Subject: Shop for axle swap??
Hey guys I recently had the fortune of having a lovely uninsured motorist
with no dl rearend me. My jeep needs a new rear axle and depending on the
price difference I might be able to get a ford 8.8 put in there. It should
be pretty simple because you can find complete 8.8's with 4.10 gears and ls
so all I would need them to do is cut off the old brackets and weld on the
new axle brackets for me. Any shop recommendations or advice?
Jeff
93 ZJ
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12960 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 1:03pm
Subject: RE: Mud Springs
You can not imagine how this week has gone. I am about to buy ten sheep and take my chain saw and live on the Rim and cut wood for a living...Also, they are at home and my access is dead there. I will get it today....somehow....sorry Stu...you did a great job on that damn hill.
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@uswest.net]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:48 PM
To: Ross Skinner
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
Hey dude!
Did you get those pics scraped off of the digital yet? Your 1 week photo processing time is almost used up!
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
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From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s2bsi.com]
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2000 12:13
To: AZVJC (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
I broke a drive shaft strap on a fun section with Lazy boy size rolling rocks(I don't mean beer). That was in my 33" days. Otherwise it is preatty tame.
Hey I have the same issue on my axel. Check out the CJ7 that won the top truck challenge in four wheeler mag, I like the bar he uses and he has about 425hp to deal with and SOA.
Ross
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From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 11:42 PM
To: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last; az_vjc
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
I'd rate it a light class 4.
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From: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last
To: az_vjc
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 9:36 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Mud Springs
What is the trail rating for Mud Springs and what kind or terrain is it. Any other info on this trail would be appreciated. Some friends are doing this trail on Sunday, I will be going if I can get the traction bar built for my YJ. I have had a bad axle wrap problem since I did the soa. I should know if I am going Saturday, I know that will be a little late of a notice but I will post the details. Thanks in advance.
Eben
92YJ
12961 From: Larry <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 1:18pm
Subject: axle wrap....... was Mud Springs
That is Sam Patterson. You can see some of the goods on his website: www.samsoffroad.com
He has a slick anti-wrap bar that doesnt hinder articulation in anyway and completely prevents axle wrap. Its a little pricey at $300 but there is some good pics to get ideas to build your own. Rubicon Express sells those same cartridge joints.
Hey I have the same issue on my axel. Check out the CJ7 that won the top truck challenge in four wheeler mag, I like the bar he uses and he has about 425hp to deal with and SOA.
I have had a bad axle wrap problem since I did the soa. I should know if I am going Saturday, I know that will be a little late of a notice but I will post the details. Thanks in advance.
Eben
92YJ
12962 From: <grafik_lar@y...>
Date: Fri Sep 22, 2000 2:29pm
Subject: Off Subject - But Please Help
My Brother is in grave need for a 95 3.0 Caravan Tranmission(3 Speed
auto), Any info on where
to find one cheap would be completely Appreciated, It is for my
brother and they only have one car(the Van) and it is broke, He does
not have much money, if you have info than get back to me and we can
work it out. Please help. If you can find one I will trade my tranny
(turbo 350). For it.
Sincerely Larry 87' Wrangler Sport.