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12763 From: DeVincentis, Jason <jason_devincentis@i...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 2:21pm
Subject: RE: Wheels
Hello,
I had been running 33x12.50x15 dick cepek all terrains on 15x10 rims for over a year. I have never lost a bead (though some may say I didn't air down enough). Although, I have run those tires at 7psi. One advantage to using the 15x10 would be to give a larger footprint, thereby gaining more traction. Is the two inch width difference worth it??? Also, this depends on future plans. My rims worked great, because eventually I upgraded to SuperSwamper 35x15.50x15, and a 15x8 rim would have squashed these tires. Hope this helps...
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Loy [mailto:tucsonhal@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:35 PM
To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] Wheels
Should I mount 33x12.50 15's on 15x8 or 15x10 rims? Why?
TIA,
Hal Loy
Tucson Rough Riders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@earthlink.net
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12764 From: Matt Barker <azjeepnut@t...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 2:16pm
Subject: RE: initial T-shirt designs
I like the white T-shirt with the same pictures, but with the wording from
the black t-shirt. Just my opinion, though.
Matt B.
94 YJ
http://azjeeps.web.com
Range Riders 4 Wheelers
Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
-----Original Message-----
From:
sentto-1011514-5533-969397246-azjeepnut=theriver.com@returns.onelist.com
[mailto:sentto-1011514-5533-969397246-azjeepnut=theriver.com@r...
list.com]On Behalf Of Dion Bozman
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:00 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] initial T-shirt designs
Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for the
group that can be viewed at the following link:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a couple
catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything we
decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color or font
for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like and
don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images for
final approval.
Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply handling the
design of the shirts. Thanks.
Dion
94YJ Sahara
12765 From: <Roxie@t...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 2:26pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
I think if you put the "If you can read this roll me over" one on, you should put the AZVJC logo upside down also ;)
PS - TJ - I love your sig line....
--------------------------------------------------------
"T.J. Nosmo-King" <ice626@h...> wrote:
>How about a combination of the White Front and the Black Front???
>
>TJ Gill
>75 CJ5
>You will do something stupid everyday of your life. If you cannot find
>something stupid to do on your own, you will be ordered to do something
>stupid.
12766 From: <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 10:49am
Subject: Saturday 4.0 Run
I have posted this a few times before but havnt received any interest, but
here goes one more time.....
Saturday9-23 the Casa Grande Four Wheelers will be running Jaw Breaker. We
will meet at the Circle K in Florence, ( theres two but they are across the
street from each other, no one knows why) at 7:00. If flo-town is out of your
way we will be on Cottonwood Road, near the Jamboree camp site around 7:30.
This run will be offered for the first time at this years Jamboree, so this
may be your last chance to run it before rocks are stacked. There is a trail
review for this trail on my web site www.azrocks.alloffroad.com but don't let
it scare you away.
If your interested please let me know so that we make sure we don't miss each
other on the road.
Chris Lewis
www.azrocks.alloffroad.com
12767 From: <grafik_lar@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 3:02pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
What about the front saying" A Jeep is like a life"
and the Back saying "If you DON'T have one, You DON't Have one"
with the existing Image Designs
Sincerely Larry 87' Wrangler
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, Dion Bozman <amstaff@e...> wrote:
> Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for
the
> group that can be viewed at the following link:
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
>
> Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a
couple
> catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything
we
> decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color
or font
> for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
>
> Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like
and
> don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images
for
> final approval.
>
> Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply
handling the
> design of the shirts. Thanks.
> Dion
> 94YJ Sahara
12768 From: Dion Bozman <amstaff@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 3:12pm
Subject: T-shirt designs
Thanks for the replies so far. If you all could, rather than post responses
to the group/digest, please e-mail directly to me: amstaff@e....
That way, I can keep track of the individual requests/thoughts for the
democratic voting process. Thanks
dion
12769 From: Jeff Woods <phjwo@p...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 3:27pm
Subject: LIFT?
I was talking to one of my friends and he thinks now is a good time to
do my lift since I'm getting new drive shafts. What do you guys think?
I'm stock height with 31's on a 1965 CJ-5.
Also whats the best lift as far as road friendly? I don't really 4 wheel
all that often and never really seriously. I would like to fit 33's.
Jay... are you out there? What suspension lifts do you sell for pre-72
CJ's?
Jeff
12770 From: Thomas Jacobson <Tjacobs@I...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 3:47pm
Subject: killin time at work
Just a few things to get out to the group at the end of a hectic day in
cubicle land.
I got back from a vacation to Kentucky last week, so had a lot of email to
catch up on. But wanted to mention to Linda "you're welcome" for the note
on the run thru Box and Martinez Canyons a few weeks ago. I'm sure most of
you have been there it so I'll skip the trail report and just say that it
was a great day! Everyone (except for our stocker XJ which we parked at the
mining camp) drove the canyons and up to the Martinez Mill without any
difficulties. The monsoons had made their presence known to the Box Canyon
trail...it may be worth seeing before the ASA4WD event in October.
Back to that KY vacation...definitely some cool and different type wheeling
down there! They have a lot of this soft, brown, gooey stuff on the trails.
Somebody called it "mud"?!?! ;) Anyway, combine the slickness with some
steep-***** hills, ledges and rocks and you've got some pretty decent trails!
This was all outside Lexington in the Arches (Daniel Boone) Nat'l Forest -
the trails from the Jeep Jambo's and KY Challenge. And driving my buddy's
Jeep made mine feel like a toy...not only did it climb and crawl great, but
with a hard shift from 1st to 2nd (in 4lo, no less) and you could make it do
a 6-8" wheelie! Yee-ha!
Finally, what was the consensus on the trail rating for Rocker Panel Pass?
The last I asked someone, they said avoid it unless you have a locker(s)...I
don't. I'm just driving a pretty normal YJ (4" lift and 33's) with an
aversion to steep hills (yes, carbureted!).
Hasta,
Tom Jacobson
12771 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 4:23pm
Subject: Wobbling Front End FIXED...
Wobbling resolved!!!
Well as many of you can tell I was not happy with the shops orginal
performance. I contacted the service manager and explained to him I felt as
if I just paid $120 for a tire rotation, since the trac bar did not fix it.
He asked if I wanted the old one back in, then some hem haughing around
since I was still getting a vibration that felt like a wobble in the making.
He offered then to do the additional work to solve the problem(i.e. balance
the tires, etc...) for free. I like that price.
I took it there today, after the work was done no more wobble from the front
end. I do still have a problem with the bad wear damage on the rears
causing a little vibration(the shop cannot fix that), but my Jeep is finally
driveable!!!
So while I did pay $120 for a trac bar, which may have been part of the
problem, they did the extra work which did not cost me anymore and all is
well.
Also while no impressed with the short quick fix(that did not) I was happy
in the long run that they did resolve it without additional financial burden
on me.
Thanks to all that replied.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
----------------------------------------------------
"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
fool forever."
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:01:07 -0700 (PDT), My1stJeep@e... wrote:
> Ok, Just had a not so great experience, maybe I am just making too much
of
> it, but you guys tell me if I am wrong. (At this time I am going to
> withhold the shop name so we don't have anyone playing favorites)
>
> I have had a wobble in the front end for almost a month, very slight
wobble.
> It was getting worse and did not seem to be consistant as to when it
> happened(Speeding up, slowing down, mph etc... did not seem to be the
same
> each time it happened). Enter a new steering stabalizer. Now much of
the
> problem is gon, no wobble, wait when I hit 40-45 mph on the speedometer
holy
> cow I think it is going to fall apart. At any other speed it is ok, but
in
> that range there is no control. So I am told an alignment is what is
> needed.
>
> I take it to an off road shop. I am told no it needs a trac bar. Now I
am
> looking at $120 for parts and labor. Ok, I can not drive it in its
current
> condition(unless I avoid those speeds). I did make an appointment, they
> swapped it out and had me back on the road in about 1 hour(time they said
> they would), I am thinking outstanding. Get less than a mile down the
road
> and holy S**t, the wobble is there in spades. Take it right back. Some
> Hmmmmm, then me and a tech go for a test spin. He feels it. Says he
thinks
> it is a problem with the tires. Go back and they rotate them. We go for
a
> second spin and it appears that the problem is solved(both test drives I
am
> in the passenger seat). There is still a slight vibration(wobble) and I
> told that the tires are worn pretty bad and a balancing would be
adviseable.
> Which I have no problem doing.
>
> I just feel a little taken by the local shop that they may have been able
to
> solve the original problem by test driving it instead of just turning the
> steering wheel(guy under the front checking) and doing a little more
> thought. Now I am going to have to pay for a balancing and maybe still
an
> alignment after paying for a Trac bar I really did not need. I am going
to
> call the shop and see what can be worked out, but I feel a little, make
that
> alot P.O.'d that I could have gotten it fixed for about half the price.
>
> You guys tell me what you think, should I be P.O.'d or am I just whining?
>
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
> ----------------------------------------------------
> "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains
a
> fool forever."
>
>
>
>
>
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12772 From: Larry <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 4:54pm
Subject: Re: Semi Floater vs Full Floater
Daver,
Thanks, I had found those same webpages last night by doing a search on
metacrawler.
Roger, thanks for the additional info and thoughts.
12773 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:06pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
I still like 'Geeks with Jeeps' since the AZVJC is an internet-based club.
Linda
Dion Bozman wrote:
> Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for the
> group that can be viewed at the following link:
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
>
> Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a couple
> catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything we
> decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color or font
> for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
>
> Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like and
> don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images for
> final approval.
>
> Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply handling the
> design of the shirts. Thanks.
> Dion
> 94YJ Sahara
12774 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:10pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
I still like 'Geeks with Jeeps' since the AZVJC is an internet-based club.
"It's a <put_your_product_here> thing..... " phrase has been done to death.
My Opinion!
Linda
Dion Bozman wrote:
> Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for the
> group that can be viewed at the following link:
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
>
> Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a couple
> catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything we
> decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color or font
> for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
>
> Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like and
> don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images for
> final approval.
>
> Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply handling the
> design of the shirts. Thanks.
> Dion
> 94YJ Sahara
12775 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:13pm
Subject: Re: DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
I have used Mesa Drive Shaft for my car, my old Dodge truck, and my new very
old Dodge truck and have had good service and quality work every time.
Linda
Hal Loy wrote:
> I have a Tom Woods and I'm quite happy with it, check out his web site
> http://www.4xshaft.com/ , Arizona Driveline is supposed to be good too, but
> I've never dealt with them, their site is http://www.gloeco.com/ . Check
> both out and see what you think.
>
> Hal Loy
> Tucson Rough Riders
> AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> ASA4WDC
> tucsonhal@e...
12776 From: Dan Frazer <notaborg@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:20pm
Subject: RE: tie rod question
Jon,
I have a friend that fabed me up a new tie rod and drag link.. We used 1" 1.88 DOM and 5/8's Heim Joints tapped into the tubing. Stonger than all. If I were to do it again I would use 3/4 Heim for the extra bite into the rod. If you or anyone wants any kind of custom built metal anything give him a call.. Justin 602.509.4550.. It's a cell and tell him your from the AZVJC.
He is trying to make some money on the side to start a metal fabrication business..
Take care,
Dan Frazer
84' CJ7
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:55 AM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com; Jon Loveless
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] tie rod question
You could get an RE Chromoly rod. Very strong. I've not had a problem w/ mine...though I did bend one about 6 months ago. The nice thing about c/m is that it really doesn't weaken much w/ a bend....and is pretty difficult to bend in the first place.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Loveless
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:36 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] tie rod question
I bent my tie rod on Log Corral. Doews anyone have suggestions for a stronger replacement? This one isn't bent bad but I think a stronger one would be a good idea and I could strap this one on somewhere as a spare.
Jon
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
12777 From: Dion & Paola <amstaff@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:43pm
Subject: Tech question/Air conditioning
Reply to: Tech question/Air conditioning
Howdy all: Well, the air conditioning (I know, I know, it's not hardcore, but this is Arizona dammit) seems to have taken a crap. Yesterday it worked fine. Today after work, I turn it on and it emits a horrible shrieking-type noise and doesn't blow ANY air, hot or cold.
Ideas? Bad compressor? Out of charge? Anything? Or can someone recommend a good shop in the East Valley/Foothills area where I won't get jacked? For reference, it's a 94 YJ Sahara with factory air, that has worked well up to this point.
Thanks,
Dion
12778 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:48pm
Subject: Re: Seattle Gal in Phoenix...
Great, Dave. Please post more info about this...where to meet...area to be
cleaned up...etc.
Thanks
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daver" <daver@c...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Seattle Gal in Phoenix...
> Roxie wrote:
> > OK, first of many - Meet the Jeep Goddess run.. ;) I'm wondering if
anyone
> > would like to organize a little run on the 14th of October? One that I
> > could passenger? I just bought a plane ticket, and I have to be at a
hockey
> > game at 7:30pm that day (go FLYERS!) - but I'm free the rest of the
> > day...and I'd LOVE to go wheeling somewhere in AZ - I'd be more than
happy
> > just to co-pilot. Anyone? Anyone...
>
> Wow! What a great day for you to come!
>
> You can help on the Aqua Fria/Table Mesa Road clean up!
>
> It's going to be big, and the BLM is talking about using it as an
> example for a whole series of clean ups of OHV areas around AZ. There
> will even be members of the media out to cover it.
>
> The Phoenix Four Wheelers will be providing refreshments, so come one,
> come all.
>
>
>
12779 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:50pm
Subject: Re: Wheels
Agreed. 8" is just about perfect for 12.50's. They'll hold a bead better,
and the rim gets a little more protection.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <Roxie@t...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Wheels
> x8 rims....harder to pop a bead on those!
>
> -Stacy-Michelle (only knows this cause she just caused a MAJOR discussion
on this on another list!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> "Hal Loy" <tucsonhal@e...> wrote:
> >Should I mount 33x12.50 15's on 15x8 or 15x10 rims? Why?
> >
> >TIA,
> >Hal Loy
> >Tucson Rough Riders
> >AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> >ASA4WDC
> >tucsonhal@e...
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
12780 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:52pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
Great work!!! I really like the one that say's "All Jeep...All the Time"
Perfect.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dion Bozman" <amstaff@e...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:00 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] initial T-shirt designs
> Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for the
> group that can be viewed at the following link:
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
>
> Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a couple
> catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything we
> decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color or
font
> for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
>
> Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like and
> don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images for
> final approval.
>
> Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply handling the
> design of the shirts. Thanks.
> Dion
> 94YJ Sahara
>
>
>
>
>
12781 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:57pm
Subject: Re: Wheels
I ran 14" wide boggers on 8" wider rims and I love it. The tire is tight
but had no problems mounting them and they hold low PSI nicely. Also they
look nice IMO.
Jesus Chio: http://www.alloffroad.com
Get your own free webpage at: http://signup.alloffroad.com
Lets make a better world, for our parents, us, for our children, for anyone.
YO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <roxie@t...>; <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Wheels
> Agreed. 8" is just about perfect for 12.50's. They'll hold a bead better,
> and the rim gets a little more protection.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Roxie@t...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Wheels
>
>
> > x8 rims....harder to pop a bead on those!
> >
> > -Stacy-Michelle (only knows this cause she just caused a MAJOR
discussion
> on this on another list!
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > "Hal Loy" <tucsonhal@e...> wrote:
> > >Should I mount 33x12.50 15's on 15x8 or 15x10 rims? Why?
> > >
> > >TIA,
> > >Hal Loy
> > >Tucson Rough Riders
> > >AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> > >ASA4WDC
> > >tucsonhal@e...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
12782 From: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 6:09pm
Subject: Re: DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
I would highly recommend Dick's Drive Shaft they built me a new rear CV
drive shaft for $200. and when I broke it two weeks later due to an axle
wrap problem they fixed it at a discount for $40.
Eben
92 Yj
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Woods <phjwo@p...>
To: azvjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
> I am going to need to have new drive shafts made for my CJ-5. Last
> weekend me and two of my friends tried to install my 327 in my CJ-5. My
> rear drive shaft is two long and my front drive shaft is to short. Maybe
> I should swap them? :-)
>
> Anyway any advise is requested.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
12783 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 6:39pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
I like that one.
"T.J. Nosmo-King" wrote:
>
> How about a combination of the White Front and the Black Front???
>
> TJ Gill
> 75 CJ5
> You will do something stupid everyday of your life. If you cannot find
> something stupid to do on your own, you will be ordered to do something
> stupid.
>
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12784 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 8:03pm
Subject: TR Crown King 9/16
Where to begin.
Originally, it started out as a small idea I had when I
discovered the road about a year ago. It was what appeared to be a road up
to Crown King from Table Mesa or Black Canyon city.
I checked topo maps, it appeared to go through to within 3/4 of a mile
to the old FR52 from Packer. The upper end of the road from Packer has been
closed due to the "Horsethief wilderness area" designation in the area. I
finally got to wheel it this weekend. It didn't go through as I had
expected. At least not in the sense of passable by vehicle travel.
Our attempt makes for a good story though, so here goes.
I dropped my truck and trailer off in Black Canyon City. I drove the Maggie
Mine trail up into the Bumble Bee trail with Eric in his YJ. Greg Banfield
And Chet were on Quads. We got as far as Cleator, when Greg's wife Dodi and
Glen caught up to us in his CJ-7. We went up the hill (the front way), and
took a pause for the "b" cause at the saloon and hotel on the west side of
the street, before heading on up. Eric had turned around to head back home
in his YJ, he was out of time. When we finally arrived at Tip Top
trailhead, Stu was already there. I FINALLY MEET THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE
LEGEND, Stu Olson!!
Brief introductions, I began bowing feverishly,(in true to form "we're not
worthy" fashion) before he sent me scampering off for firewood. It was
getting dark. Greg Chet and Dodi weren't staying up there,
and now their time was up, so they headed back down the hill. Keith, Rob and
Becky were next to arrive in Keith's YJ. Stu and I were swapping stories and
pouring over the maps for a plan of attack like 2 generals chasing
victory......or not... Anyway we were interrupted by the clamorous entrance.
"Friends of yours?" Stu asked. To which I replied, " Just wait, It gets
worse!!" Stu wisely decided on the "peaceful" campsite he already
established and sent us down the way. We lit the fire. It was Big. Fair
warning if you camp with us. Don't worry, you won't hurt our feelings!
The trio wanted to go back to town for a Fireman's fund raiser that
promised lots of excitement and fun. I opted to seclude myself in camp,
enjoying the magnificent view of the city lights, the moon, the peace and
quiet of the mountains and the cool breeze blowing thru camp. I am a self
proclaimed complex and diverse man, which would explain The Kid Rock cd
blaring from my stereo the next morning......
The trio came back......at 2:00am, I woke and joined in on the party, which
ended at 3:00am. I woke with the sun at 5:30am, rekindled the fire, ate some
of the most magnificent one's "most magnificent Breakfast burritos". Great
Job, Stu!!
Ross never arrived, until now, so we broke camp while he attended to his
last minute details. The most exciting part of the trail is the first
600-800 yards of near vertical decomposed granite (no traction) hill. Which
rises approx 1200 feet on the Topo. The remainder of the trail was pretty
much a bust, since we had to turn around and come back..... No one was
looking forward to tackling the hill, but unless we go up, we can't leave.
Ross was 1st, and made it up the 1st section with grave difficulty. The
second section, he winched himself up, due to some advice from me to try the
hill in first gear low. He made good progress, I didn't want him to lose the
progress he made to this point without breaking, so I advised him to winch,
and so he did. Next up was Keith Auble (Crus) and, while we were getting
Ross' Jeep in position to winch the rest of us up, Keith DROVE to the top!
As all our jaws dropped in amazement, Keith was beaming ear to ear, and high
fiving us. Next was Stu, he too winched after making fantastic progress,
however a rock which his Jeep slid into while struggling for traction,
managed to scratch his rim and partly tear his valve stem. It didn't leak,
and the wise thing to do was winch from this position, to prevent further
damage.
I was last up the hill, and having the advantage of watching what worked
and what didn't, I drove up in 2nd gear 4lo with a whole lot of dust and
cool air under my tires. We all made it to the top after that, stacking our
Jeeps in celebration (childish, I know, but it was my idea....).
Those who went thanks for the wonderful memories........... Then there
was the trip down to civilization. But that is another adventure all
together!!
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
12785 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 8:29pm
Subject: RE: TR Crown King 9/16
I can say that wheelin' with Bill, Ross, and Keith was one of the most
memorable adventures of my summer. Now some of you may think that I must
have had a really boring summer, but rest assured, I got more intense 4
wheelin' in those first and last 800 yards of trail than I managed to get on
several other runs all combined. As Bill mentioned to me as I was scoping
out the trail Sunday morning...."There are a few spots where the pucker
factor gets pretty high. You might find your Jeep wanting to swap ends
while going down the trail." (I didn't tell him it was the going up part
that had me a bit more nervous!) ;^)
Bill and I had attempted to hook up on a trail, any trail, for most of the
summer. Being on this trail with him was probably the best way to catch him
in his natural environment. Ross did a great job with his newly built up
CJ-7 (if you can call it that anymore). Keith with his special technique of
bouncing along the top of the ruts while cruising up the hill with 3.07
gears still leaves me wondering just how he did it.
I look forward to the next run. Can we find a road that goes somewhere this
time? <G>
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: William Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:04 PM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] TR Crown King 9/16
Where to begin.
Originally, it started out as a small idea I had when I
discovered the road about a year ago. It was what appeared to be a road up
to Crown King from Table Mesa or Black Canyon city.
I checked topo maps, it appeared to go through to within 3/4 of a mile
to the old FR52 from Packer. The upper end of the road from Packer has been
closed due to the "Horsethief wilderness area" designation in the area. I
finally got to wheel it this weekend. It didn't go through as I had
expected. At least not in the sense of passable by vehicle travel.
Our attempt makes for a good story though, so here goes.
I dropped my truck and trailer off in Black Canyon City. I drove the Maggie
Mine trail up into the Bumble Bee trail with Eric in his YJ. Greg Banfield
And Chet were on Quads. We got as far as Cleator, when Greg's wife Dodi and
Glen caught up to us in his CJ-7. We went up the hill (the front way), and
took a pause for the "b" cause at the saloon and hotel on the west side of
the street, before heading on up. Eric had turned around to head back home
in his YJ, he was out of time. When we finally arrived at Tip Top
trailhead, Stu was already there. I FINALLY MEET THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE
LEGEND, Stu Olson!!
Brief introductions, I began bowing feverishly,(in true to form "we're not
worthy" fashion) before he sent me scampering off for firewood. It was
getting dark. Greg Chet and Dodi weren't staying up there,
and now their time was up, so they headed back down the hill. Keith, Rob and
Becky were next to arrive in Keith's YJ. Stu and I were swapping stories and
pouring over the maps for a plan of attack like 2 generals chasing
victory......or not... Anyway we were interrupted by the clamorous entrance.
"Friends of yours?" Stu asked. To which I replied, " Just wait, It gets
worse!!" Stu wisely decided on the "peaceful" campsite he already
established and sent us down the way. We lit the fire. It was Big. Fair
warning if you camp with us. Don't worry, you won't hurt our feelings!
The trio wanted to go back to town for a Fireman's fund raiser that
promised lots of excitement and fun. I opted to seclude myself in camp,
enjoying the magnificent view of the city lights, the moon, the peace and
quiet of the mountains and the cool breeze blowing thru camp. I am a self
proclaimed complex and diverse man, which would explain The Kid Rock cd
blaring from my stereo the next morning......
The trio came back......at 2:00am, I woke and joined in on the party, which
ended at 3:00am. I woke with the sun at 5:30am, rekindled the fire, ate some
of the most magnificent one's "most magnificent Breakfast burritos". Great
Job, Stu!!
Ross never arrived, until now, so we broke camp while he attended to his
last minute details. The most exciting part of the trail is the first
600-800 yards of near vertical decomposed granite (no traction) hill. Which
rises approx 1200 feet on the Topo. The remainder of the trail was pretty
much a bust, since we had to turn around and come back..... No one was
looking forward to tackling the hill, but unless we go up, we can't leave.
Ross was 1st, and made it up the 1st section with grave difficulty. The
second section, he winched himself up, due to some advice from me to try the
hill in first gear low. He made good progress, I didn't want him to lose the
progress he made to this point without breaking, so I advised him to winch,
and so he did. Next up was Keith Auble (Crus) and, while we were getting
Ross' Jeep in position to winch the rest of us up, Keith DROVE to the top!
As all our jaws dropped in amazement, Keith was beaming ear to ear, and high
fiving us. Next was Stu, he too winched after making fantastic progress,
however a rock which his Jeep slid into while struggling for traction,
managed to scratch his rim and partly tear his valve stem. It didn't leak,
and the wise thing to do was winch from this position, to prevent further
damage.
I was last up the hill, and having the advantage of watching what worked
and what didn't, I drove up in 2nd gear 4lo with a whole lot of dust and
cool air under my tires. We all made it to the top after that, stacking our
Jeeps in celebration (childish, I know, but it was my idea....).
Those who went thanks for the wonderful memories........... Then there
was the trip down to civilization. But that is another adventure all
together!!
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
12786 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 8:45pm
Subject: Re: TR Crown King 9/16
Grave mistake made in calling Keith's TJ a YJ!! Sorree!!
please forgive, (mama was rushing me to finish!)
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Mish" <yldkat55@h...>
To: "AZ_VJC" <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:03 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] TR Crown King 9/16
> Where to begin.
> Originally, it started out as a small idea I had when I
> discovered the road about a year ago. It was what appeared to be a road up
> to Crown King from Table Mesa or Black Canyon city.
> I checked topo maps, it appeared to go through to within 3/4 of a mile
> to the old FR52 from Packer. The upper end of the road from Packer has
been
> closed due to the "Horsethief wilderness area" designation in the area. I
> finally got to wheel it this weekend. It didn't go through as I had
> expected. At least not in the sense of passable by vehicle travel.
>
> Our attempt makes for a good story though, so here goes.
>
> I dropped my truck and trailer off in Black Canyon City. I drove the
Maggie
> Mine trail up into the Bumble Bee trail with Eric in his YJ. Greg Banfield
> And Chet were on Quads. We got as far as Cleator, when Greg's wife Dodi
and
> Glen caught up to us in his CJ-7. We went up the hill (the front way), and
> took a pause for the "b" cause at the saloon and hotel on the west side of
> the street, before heading on up. Eric had turned around to head back home
> in his YJ, he was out of time. When we finally arrived at Tip Top
> trailhead, Stu was already there. I FINALLY MEET THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE
> LEGEND, Stu Olson!!
> Brief introductions, I began bowing feverishly,(in true to form "we're not
> worthy" fashion) before he sent me scampering off for firewood. It was
> getting dark. Greg Chet and Dodi weren't staying up there,
> and now their time was up, so they headed back down the hill. Keith, Rob
and
> Becky were next to arrive in Keith's YJ. Stu and I were swapping stories
and
> pouring over the maps for a plan of attack like 2 generals chasing
> victory......or not... Anyway we were interrupted by the clamorous
entrance.
> "Friends of yours?" Stu asked. To which I replied, " Just wait, It gets
> worse!!" Stu wisely decided on the "peaceful" campsite he already
> established and sent us down the way. We lit the fire. It was Big. Fair
> warning if you camp with us. Don't worry, you won't hurt our feelings!
>
> The trio wanted to go back to town for a Fireman's fund raiser that
> promised lots of excitement and fun. I opted to seclude myself in camp,
> enjoying the magnificent view of the city lights, the moon, the peace and
> quiet of the mountains and the cool breeze blowing thru camp. I am a self
> proclaimed complex and diverse man, which would explain The Kid Rock cd
> blaring from my stereo the next morning......
>
> The trio came back......at 2:00am, I woke and joined in on the party,
which
> ended at 3:00am. I woke with the sun at 5:30am, rekindled the fire, ate
some
> of the most magnificent one's "most magnificent Breakfast burritos". Great
> Job, Stu!!
>
> Ross never arrived, until now, so we broke camp while he attended to his
> last minute details. The most exciting part of the trail is the first
> 600-800 yards of near vertical decomposed granite (no traction) hill.
Which
> rises approx 1200 feet on the Topo. The remainder of the trail was pretty
> much a bust, since we had to turn around and come back..... No one was
> looking forward to tackling the hill, but unless we go up, we can't leave.
> Ross was 1st, and made it up the 1st section with grave difficulty. The
> second section, he winched himself up, due to some advice from me to try
the
> hill in first gear low. He made good progress, I didn't want him to lose
the
> progress he made to this point without breaking, so I advised him to
winch,
> and so he did. Next up was Keith Auble (Crus) and, while we were getting
> Ross' Jeep in position to winch the rest of us up, Keith DROVE to the top!
> As all our jaws dropped in amazement, Keith was beaming ear to ear, and
high
> fiving us. Next was Stu, he too winched after making fantastic progress,
> however a rock which his Jeep slid into while struggling for traction,
> managed to scratch his rim and partly tear his valve stem. It didn't leak,
> and the wise thing to do was winch from this position, to prevent further
> damage.
>
> I was last up the hill, and having the advantage of watching what
worked
> and what didn't, I drove up in 2nd gear 4lo with a whole lot of dust and
> cool air under my tires. We all made it to the top after that, stacking
our
> Jeeps in celebration (childish, I know, but it was my idea....).
>
> Those who went thanks for the wonderful memories........... Then there
> was the trip down to civilization. But that is another adventure all
> together!!
>
>
>
>
> Bill Mish
> Yldkat
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> http://drive.to/yldkat55
>
>
>
>
>
12787 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 10:08pm
Subject: Re: DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
FYI. I had problems with Gloeco.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Woods" <phjwo@p...>
To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
> I am going to need to have new drive shafts made for my CJ-5. Last
> weekend me and two of my friends tried to install my 327 in my CJ-5. My
> rear drive shaft is two long and my front drive shaft is to short. Maybe
> I should swap them? :-)
>
> Anyway any advise is requested.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
12763 From: DeVincentis, Jason <jason_devincentis@i...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 2:21pm
Subject: RE: Wheels
Hello,
I had been running 33x12.50x15 dick cepek all terrains on 15x10 rims for over a year. I have never lost a bead (though some may say I didn't air down enough). Although, I have run those tires at 7psi. One advantage to using the 15x10 would be to give a larger footprint, thereby gaining more traction. Is the two inch width difference worth it??? Also, this depends on future plans. My rims worked great, because eventually I upgraded to SuperSwamper 35x15.50x15, and a 15x8 rim would have squashed these tires. Hope this helps...
Jason
-----Original Message-----
From: Hal Loy [mailto:tucsonhal@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:35 PM
To: AZ Virtual Jeep Club
Subject: [az_vjc] Wheels
Should I mount 33x12.50 15's on 15x8 or 15x10 rims? Why?
TIA,
Hal Loy
Tucson Rough Riders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@earthlink.net
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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12764 From: Matt Barker <azjeepnut@t...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 2:16pm
Subject: RE: initial T-shirt designs
I like the white T-shirt with the same pictures, but with the wording from
the black t-shirt. Just my opinion, though.
Matt B.
94 YJ
http://azjeeps.web.com
Range Riders 4 Wheelers
Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
-----Original Message-----
From:
sentto-1011514-5533-969397246-azjeepnut=theriver.com@returns.onelist.com
[mailto:sentto-1011514-5533-969397246-azjeepnut=theriver.com@r...
list.com]On Behalf Of Dion Bozman
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:00 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] initial T-shirt designs
Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for the
group that can be viewed at the following link:
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a couple
catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything we
decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color or font
for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like and
don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images for
final approval.
Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply handling the
design of the shirts. Thanks.
Dion
94YJ Sahara
12765 From: <Roxie@t...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 2:26pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
I think if you put the "If you can read this roll me over" one on, you should put the AZVJC logo upside down also ;)
PS - TJ - I love your sig line....
--------------------------------------------------------
"T.J. Nosmo-King" <ice626@h...> wrote:
>How about a combination of the White Front and the Black Front???
>
>TJ Gill
>75 CJ5
>You will do something stupid everyday of your life. If you cannot find
>something stupid to do on your own, you will be ordered to do something
>stupid.
12766 From: <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 10:49am
Subject: Saturday 4.0 Run
I have posted this a few times before but havnt received any interest, but
here goes one more time.....
Saturday9-23 the Casa Grande Four Wheelers will be running Jaw Breaker. We
will meet at the Circle K in Florence, ( theres two but they are across the
street from each other, no one knows why) at 7:00. If flo-town is out of your
way we will be on Cottonwood Road, near the Jamboree camp site around 7:30.
This run will be offered for the first time at this years Jamboree, so this
may be your last chance to run it before rocks are stacked. There is a trail
review for this trail on my web site www.azrocks.alloffroad.com but don't let
it scare you away.
If your interested please let me know so that we make sure we don't miss each
other on the road.
Chris Lewis
www.azrocks.alloffroad.com
12767 From: <grafik_lar@y...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 3:02pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
What about the front saying" A Jeep is like a life"
and the Back saying "If you DON'T have one, You DON't Have one"
with the existing Image Designs
Sincerely Larry 87' Wrangler
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, Dion Bozman <amstaff@e...> wrote:
> Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for
the
> group that can be viewed at the following link:
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
>
> Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a
couple
> catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything
we
> decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color
or font
> for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
>
> Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like
and
> don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images
for
> final approval.
>
> Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply
handling the
> design of the shirts. Thanks.
> Dion
> 94YJ Sahara
12768 From: Dion Bozman <amstaff@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 3:12pm
Subject: T-shirt designs
Thanks for the replies so far. If you all could, rather than post responses
to the group/digest, please e-mail directly to me: amstaff@e....
That way, I can keep track of the individual requests/thoughts for the
democratic voting process. Thanks
dion
12769 From: Jeff Woods <phjwo@p...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 3:27pm
Subject: LIFT?
I was talking to one of my friends and he thinks now is a good time to
do my lift since I'm getting new drive shafts. What do you guys think?
I'm stock height with 31's on a 1965 CJ-5.
Also whats the best lift as far as road friendly? I don't really 4 wheel
all that often and never really seriously. I would like to fit 33's.
Jay... are you out there? What suspension lifts do you sell for pre-72
CJ's?
Jeff
12770 From: Thomas Jacobson <Tjacobs@I...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 3:47pm
Subject: killin time at work
Just a few things to get out to the group at the end of a hectic day in
cubicle land.
I got back from a vacation to Kentucky last week, so had a lot of email to
catch up on. But wanted to mention to Linda "you're welcome" for the note
on the run thru Box and Martinez Canyons a few weeks ago. I'm sure most of
you have been there it so I'll skip the trail report and just say that it
was a great day! Everyone (except for our stocker XJ which we parked at the
mining camp) drove the canyons and up to the Martinez Mill without any
difficulties. The monsoons had made their presence known to the Box Canyon
trail...it may be worth seeing before the ASA4WD event in October.
Back to that KY vacation...definitely some cool and different type wheeling
down there! They have a lot of this soft, brown, gooey stuff on the trails.
Somebody called it "mud"?!?! ;) Anyway, combine the slickness with some
steep-***** hills, ledges and rocks and you've got some pretty decent trails!
This was all outside Lexington in the Arches (Daniel Boone) Nat'l Forest -
the trails from the Jeep Jambo's and KY Challenge. And driving my buddy's
Jeep made mine feel like a toy...not only did it climb and crawl great, but
with a hard shift from 1st to 2nd (in 4lo, no less) and you could make it do
a 6-8" wheelie! Yee-ha!
Finally, what was the consensus on the trail rating for Rocker Panel Pass?
The last I asked someone, they said avoid it unless you have a locker(s)...I
don't. I'm just driving a pretty normal YJ (4" lift and 33's) with an
aversion to steep hills (yes, carbureted!).
Hasta,
Tom Jacobson
12771 From: Chris R. <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 4:23pm
Subject: Wobbling Front End FIXED...
Wobbling resolved!!!
Well as many of you can tell I was not happy with the shops orginal
performance. I contacted the service manager and explained to him I felt as
if I just paid $120 for a tire rotation, since the trac bar did not fix it.
He asked if I wanted the old one back in, then some hem haughing around
since I was still getting a vibration that felt like a wobble in the making.
He offered then to do the additional work to solve the problem(i.e. balance
the tires, etc...) for free. I like that price.
I took it there today, after the work was done no more wobble from the front
end. I do still have a problem with the bad wear damage on the rears
causing a little vibration(the shop cannot fix that), but my Jeep is finally
driveable!!!
So while I did pay $120 for a trac bar, which may have been part of the
problem, they did the extra work which did not cost me anymore and all is
well.
Also while no impressed with the short quick fix(that did not) I was happy
in the long run that they did resolve it without additional financial burden
on me.
Thanks to all that replied.
Chris
http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
My1stJeep@e...
'97 TJ
----------------------------------------------------
"He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains a
fool forever."
On Mon, 18 Sep 2000 16:01:07 -0700 (PDT), My1stJeep@e... wrote:
> Ok, Just had a not so great experience, maybe I am just making too much
of
> it, but you guys tell me if I am wrong. (At this time I am going to
> withhold the shop name so we don't have anyone playing favorites)
>
> I have had a wobble in the front end for almost a month, very slight
wobble.
> It was getting worse and did not seem to be consistant as to when it
> happened(Speeding up, slowing down, mph etc... did not seem to be the
same
> each time it happened). Enter a new steering stabalizer. Now much of
the
> problem is gon, no wobble, wait when I hit 40-45 mph on the speedometer
holy
> cow I think it is going to fall apart. At any other speed it is ok, but
in
> that range there is no control. So I am told an alignment is what is
> needed.
>
> I take it to an off road shop. I am told no it needs a trac bar. Now I
am
> looking at $120 for parts and labor. Ok, I can not drive it in its
current
> condition(unless I avoid those speeds). I did make an appointment, they
> swapped it out and had me back on the road in about 1 hour(time they said
> they would), I am thinking outstanding. Get less than a mile down the
road
> and holy S**t, the wobble is there in spades. Take it right back. Some
> Hmmmmm, then me and a tech go for a test spin. He feels it. Says he
thinks
> it is a problem with the tires. Go back and they rotate them. We go for
a
> second spin and it appears that the problem is solved(both test drives I
am
> in the passenger seat). There is still a slight vibration(wobble) and I
> told that the tires are worn pretty bad and a balancing would be
adviseable.
> Which I have no problem doing.
>
> I just feel a little taken by the local shop that they may have been able
to
> solve the original problem by test driving it instead of just turning the
> steering wheel(guy under the front checking) and doing a little more
> thought. Now I am going to have to pay for a balancing and maybe still
an
> alignment after paying for a Trac bar I really did not need. I am going
to
> call the shop and see what can be worked out, but I feel a little, make
that
> alot P.O.'d that I could have gotten it fixed for about half the price.
>
> You guys tell me what you think, should I be P.O.'d or am I just whining?
>
>
> Chris
> http://www.hotstuff.alloffroad.com/
> My1stJeep@e...
> '97 TJ
> ----------------------------------------------------
> "He who asks is a fool for five minutes, but he who does not ask remains
a
> fool forever."
>
>
>
>
>
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> Say Bye to Slow Internet!
> http://www.home.com/xinbox/signup.html
>
>
>
>
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12772 From: Larry <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 4:54pm
Subject: Re: Semi Floater vs Full Floater
Daver,
Thanks, I had found those same webpages last night by doing a search on
metacrawler.
Roger, thanks for the additional info and thoughts.
12773 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:06pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
I still like 'Geeks with Jeeps' since the AZVJC is an internet-based club.
Linda
Dion Bozman wrote:
> Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for the
> group that can be viewed at the following link:
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
>
> Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a couple
> catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything we
> decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color or font
> for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
>
> Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like and
> don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images for
> final approval.
>
> Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply handling the
> design of the shirts. Thanks.
> Dion
> 94YJ Sahara
12774 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:10pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
I still like 'Geeks with Jeeps' since the AZVJC is an internet-based club.
"It's a <put_your_product_here> thing..... " phrase has been done to death.
My Opinion!
Linda
Dion Bozman wrote:
> Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for the
> group that can be viewed at the following link:
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
>
> Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a couple
> catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything we
> decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color or font
> for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
>
> Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like and
> don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images for
> final approval.
>
> Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply handling the
> design of the shirts. Thanks.
> Dion
> 94YJ Sahara
12775 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:13pm
Subject: Re: DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
I have used Mesa Drive Shaft for my car, my old Dodge truck, and my new very
old Dodge truck and have had good service and quality work every time.
Linda
Hal Loy wrote:
> I have a Tom Woods and I'm quite happy with it, check out his web site
> http://www.4xshaft.com/ , Arizona Driveline is supposed to be good too, but
> I've never dealt with them, their site is http://www.gloeco.com/ . Check
> both out and see what you think.
>
> Hal Loy
> Tucson Rough Riders
> AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> ASA4WDC
> tucsonhal@e...
12776 From: Dan Frazer <notaborg@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:20pm
Subject: RE: tie rod question
Jon,
I have a friend that fabed me up a new tie rod and drag link.. We used 1" 1.88 DOM and 5/8's Heim Joints tapped into the tubing. Stonger than all. If I were to do it again I would use 3/4 Heim for the extra bite into the rod. If you or anyone wants any kind of custom built metal anything give him a call.. Justin 602.509.4550.. It's a cell and tell him your from the AZVJC.
He is trying to make some money on the side to start a metal fabrication business..
Take care,
Dan Frazer
84' CJ7
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@home.com]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:55 AM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com; Jon Loveless
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] tie rod question
You could get an RE Chromoly rod. Very strong. I've not had a problem w/ mine...though I did bend one about 6 months ago. The nice thing about c/m is that it really doesn't weaken much w/ a bend....and is pretty difficult to bend in the first place.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Loveless
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:36 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] tie rod question
I bent my tie rod on Log Corral. Doews anyone have suggestions for a stronger replacement? This one isn't bent bad but I think a stronger one would be a good idea and I could strap this one on somewhere as a spare.
Jon
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
12777 From: Dion & Paola <amstaff@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:43pm
Subject: Tech question/Air conditioning
Reply to: Tech question/Air conditioning
Howdy all: Well, the air conditioning (I know, I know, it's not hardcore, but this is Arizona dammit) seems to have taken a crap. Yesterday it worked fine. Today after work, I turn it on and it emits a horrible shrieking-type noise and doesn't blow ANY air, hot or cold.
Ideas? Bad compressor? Out of charge? Anything? Or can someone recommend a good shop in the East Valley/Foothills area where I won't get jacked? For reference, it's a 94 YJ Sahara with factory air, that has worked well up to this point.
Thanks,
Dion
12778 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:48pm
Subject: Re: Seattle Gal in Phoenix...
Great, Dave. Please post more info about this...where to meet...area to be
cleaned up...etc.
Thanks
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daver" <daver@c...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:23 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Seattle Gal in Phoenix...
> Roxie wrote:
> > OK, first of many - Meet the Jeep Goddess run.. ;) I'm wondering if
anyone
> > would like to organize a little run on the 14th of October? One that I
> > could passenger? I just bought a plane ticket, and I have to be at a
hockey
> > game at 7:30pm that day (go FLYERS!) - but I'm free the rest of the
> > day...and I'd LOVE to go wheeling somewhere in AZ - I'd be more than
happy
> > just to co-pilot. Anyone? Anyone...
>
> Wow! What a great day for you to come!
>
> You can help on the Aqua Fria/Table Mesa Road clean up!
>
> It's going to be big, and the BLM is talking about using it as an
> example for a whole series of clean ups of OHV areas around AZ. There
> will even be members of the media out to cover it.
>
> The Phoenix Four Wheelers will be providing refreshments, so come one,
> come all.
>
>
>
12779 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:50pm
Subject: Re: Wheels
Agreed. 8" is just about perfect for 12.50's. They'll hold a bead better,
and the rim gets a little more protection.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <Roxie@t...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:52 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Wheels
> x8 rims....harder to pop a bead on those!
>
> -Stacy-Michelle (only knows this cause she just caused a MAJOR discussion
on this on another list!
>
> --------------------------------------------------------
> "Hal Loy" <tucsonhal@e...> wrote:
> >Should I mount 33x12.50 15's on 15x8 or 15x10 rims? Why?
> >
> >TIA,
> >Hal Loy
> >Tucson Rough Riders
> >AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> >ASA4WDC
> >tucsonhal@e...
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
12780 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:52pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
Great work!!! I really like the one that say's "All Jeep...All the Time"
Perfect.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dion Bozman" <amstaff@e...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 2:00 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] initial T-shirt designs
> Hi folks: Dion Bozman here. I've designed some initial T-shirts for the
> group that can be viewed at the following link:
> http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=850496&a=6184131
>
> Keep in mind, I haven't had much input, so I just came up with a couple
> catch phrases off the top of my head. I can pretty much do anything we
> decide on as a group. Remember, I can do any color shirt, any color or
font
> for the type, any sayings that we choose, etc., etc.
>
> Please view the images and let me know, specifically, what you like and
> don't like. Based on majority, I'll redesign and repost new images for
> final approval.
>
> Also, please do not send any ordering info to me. I'm simply handling the
> design of the shirts. Thanks.
> Dion
> 94YJ Sahara
>
>
>
>
>
12781 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 5:57pm
Subject: Re: Wheels
I ran 14" wide boggers on 8" wider rims and I love it. The tire is tight
but had no problems mounting them and they hold low PSI nicely. Also they
look nice IMO.
Jesus Chio: http://www.alloffroad.com
Get your own free webpage at: http://signup.alloffroad.com
Lets make a better world, for our parents, us, for our children, for anyone.
YO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "DougB" <azjeep@h...>
To: <roxie@t...>; <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Wheels
> Agreed. 8" is just about perfect for 12.50's. They'll hold a bead better,
> and the rim gets a little more protection.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Roxie@t...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 1:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Wheels
>
>
> > x8 rims....harder to pop a bead on those!
> >
> > -Stacy-Michelle (only knows this cause she just caused a MAJOR
discussion
> on this on another list!
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > "Hal Loy" <tucsonhal@e...> wrote:
> > >Should I mount 33x12.50 15's on 15x8 or 15x10 rims? Why?
> > >
> > >TIA,
> > >Hal Loy
> > >Tucson Rough Riders
> > >AZ Virtual Jeep Club
> > >ASA4WDC
> > >tucsonhal@e...
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
12782 From: ebnhils:First ebnhils:Last <ebnhils@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 6:09pm
Subject: Re: DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
I would highly recommend Dick's Drive Shaft they built me a new rear CV
drive shaft for $200. and when I broke it two weeks later due to an axle
wrap problem they fixed it at a discount for $40.
Eben
92 Yj
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Woods <phjwo@p...>
To: azvjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
> I am going to need to have new drive shafts made for my CJ-5. Last
> weekend me and two of my friends tried to install my 327 in my CJ-5. My
> rear drive shaft is two long and my front drive shaft is to short. Maybe
> I should swap them? :-)
>
> Anyway any advise is requested.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
12783 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 6:39pm
Subject: Re: initial T-shirt designs
I like that one.
"T.J. Nosmo-King" wrote:
>
> How about a combination of the White Front and the Black Front???
>
> TJ Gill
> 75 CJ5
> You will do something stupid everyday of your life. If you cannot find
> something stupid to do on your own, you will be ordered to do something
> stupid.
>
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find that they very rarely lose or fail.
12784 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 8:03pm
Subject: TR Crown King 9/16
Where to begin.
Originally, it started out as a small idea I had when I
discovered the road about a year ago. It was what appeared to be a road up
to Crown King from Table Mesa or Black Canyon city.
I checked topo maps, it appeared to go through to within 3/4 of a mile
to the old FR52 from Packer. The upper end of the road from Packer has been
closed due to the "Horsethief wilderness area" designation in the area. I
finally got to wheel it this weekend. It didn't go through as I had
expected. At least not in the sense of passable by vehicle travel.
Our attempt makes for a good story though, so here goes.
I dropped my truck and trailer off in Black Canyon City. I drove the Maggie
Mine trail up into the Bumble Bee trail with Eric in his YJ. Greg Banfield
And Chet were on Quads. We got as far as Cleator, when Greg's wife Dodi and
Glen caught up to us in his CJ-7. We went up the hill (the front way), and
took a pause for the "b" cause at the saloon and hotel on the west side of
the street, before heading on up. Eric had turned around to head back home
in his YJ, he was out of time. When we finally arrived at Tip Top
trailhead, Stu was already there. I FINALLY MEET THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE
LEGEND, Stu Olson!!
Brief introductions, I began bowing feverishly,(in true to form "we're not
worthy" fashion) before he sent me scampering off for firewood. It was
getting dark. Greg Chet and Dodi weren't staying up there,
and now their time was up, so they headed back down the hill. Keith, Rob and
Becky were next to arrive in Keith's YJ. Stu and I were swapping stories and
pouring over the maps for a plan of attack like 2 generals chasing
victory......or not... Anyway we were interrupted by the clamorous entrance.
"Friends of yours?" Stu asked. To which I replied, " Just wait, It gets
worse!!" Stu wisely decided on the "peaceful" campsite he already
established and sent us down the way. We lit the fire. It was Big. Fair
warning if you camp with us. Don't worry, you won't hurt our feelings!
The trio wanted to go back to town for a Fireman's fund raiser that
promised lots of excitement and fun. I opted to seclude myself in camp,
enjoying the magnificent view of the city lights, the moon, the peace and
quiet of the mountains and the cool breeze blowing thru camp. I am a self
proclaimed complex and diverse man, which would explain The Kid Rock cd
blaring from my stereo the next morning......
The trio came back......at 2:00am, I woke and joined in on the party, which
ended at 3:00am. I woke with the sun at 5:30am, rekindled the fire, ate some
of the most magnificent one's "most magnificent Breakfast burritos". Great
Job, Stu!!
Ross never arrived, until now, so we broke camp while he attended to his
last minute details. The most exciting part of the trail is the first
600-800 yards of near vertical decomposed granite (no traction) hill. Which
rises approx 1200 feet on the Topo. The remainder of the trail was pretty
much a bust, since we had to turn around and come back..... No one was
looking forward to tackling the hill, but unless we go up, we can't leave.
Ross was 1st, and made it up the 1st section with grave difficulty. The
second section, he winched himself up, due to some advice from me to try the
hill in first gear low. He made good progress, I didn't want him to lose the
progress he made to this point without breaking, so I advised him to winch,
and so he did. Next up was Keith Auble (Crus) and, while we were getting
Ross' Jeep in position to winch the rest of us up, Keith DROVE to the top!
As all our jaws dropped in amazement, Keith was beaming ear to ear, and high
fiving us. Next was Stu, he too winched after making fantastic progress,
however a rock which his Jeep slid into while struggling for traction,
managed to scratch his rim and partly tear his valve stem. It didn't leak,
and the wise thing to do was winch from this position, to prevent further
damage.
I was last up the hill, and having the advantage of watching what worked
and what didn't, I drove up in 2nd gear 4lo with a whole lot of dust and
cool air under my tires. We all made it to the top after that, stacking our
Jeeps in celebration (childish, I know, but it was my idea....).
Those who went thanks for the wonderful memories........... Then there
was the trip down to civilization. But that is another adventure all
together!!
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
12785 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 8:29pm
Subject: RE: TR Crown King 9/16
I can say that wheelin' with Bill, Ross, and Keith was one of the most
memorable adventures of my summer. Now some of you may think that I must
have had a really boring summer, but rest assured, I got more intense 4
wheelin' in those first and last 800 yards of trail than I managed to get on
several other runs all combined. As Bill mentioned to me as I was scoping
out the trail Sunday morning...."There are a few spots where the pucker
factor gets pretty high. You might find your Jeep wanting to swap ends
while going down the trail." (I didn't tell him it was the going up part
that had me a bit more nervous!) ;^)
Bill and I had attempted to hook up on a trail, any trail, for most of the
summer. Being on this trail with him was probably the best way to catch him
in his natural environment. Ross did a great job with his newly built up
CJ-7 (if you can call it that anymore). Keith with his special technique of
bouncing along the top of the ruts while cruising up the hill with 3.07
gears still leaves me wondering just how he did it.
I look forward to the next run. Can we find a road that goes somewhere this
time? <G>
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: William Mish [mailto:yldkat55@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:04 PM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] TR Crown King 9/16
Where to begin.
Originally, it started out as a small idea I had when I
discovered the road about a year ago. It was what appeared to be a road up
to Crown King from Table Mesa or Black Canyon city.
I checked topo maps, it appeared to go through to within 3/4 of a mile
to the old FR52 from Packer. The upper end of the road from Packer has been
closed due to the "Horsethief wilderness area" designation in the area. I
finally got to wheel it this weekend. It didn't go through as I had
expected. At least not in the sense of passable by vehicle travel.
Our attempt makes for a good story though, so here goes.
I dropped my truck and trailer off in Black Canyon City. I drove the Maggie
Mine trail up into the Bumble Bee trail with Eric in his YJ. Greg Banfield
And Chet were on Quads. We got as far as Cleator, when Greg's wife Dodi and
Glen caught up to us in his CJ-7. We went up the hill (the front way), and
took a pause for the "b" cause at the saloon and hotel on the west side of
the street, before heading on up. Eric had turned around to head back home
in his YJ, he was out of time. When we finally arrived at Tip Top
trailhead, Stu was already there. I FINALLY MEET THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE
LEGEND, Stu Olson!!
Brief introductions, I began bowing feverishly,(in true to form "we're not
worthy" fashion) before he sent me scampering off for firewood. It was
getting dark. Greg Chet and Dodi weren't staying up there,
and now their time was up, so they headed back down the hill. Keith, Rob and
Becky were next to arrive in Keith's YJ. Stu and I were swapping stories and
pouring over the maps for a plan of attack like 2 generals chasing
victory......or not... Anyway we were interrupted by the clamorous entrance.
"Friends of yours?" Stu asked. To which I replied, " Just wait, It gets
worse!!" Stu wisely decided on the "peaceful" campsite he already
established and sent us down the way. We lit the fire. It was Big. Fair
warning if you camp with us. Don't worry, you won't hurt our feelings!
The trio wanted to go back to town for a Fireman's fund raiser that
promised lots of excitement and fun. I opted to seclude myself in camp,
enjoying the magnificent view of the city lights, the moon, the peace and
quiet of the mountains and the cool breeze blowing thru camp. I am a self
proclaimed complex and diverse man, which would explain The Kid Rock cd
blaring from my stereo the next morning......
The trio came back......at 2:00am, I woke and joined in on the party, which
ended at 3:00am. I woke with the sun at 5:30am, rekindled the fire, ate some
of the most magnificent one's "most magnificent Breakfast burritos". Great
Job, Stu!!
Ross never arrived, until now, so we broke camp while he attended to his
last minute details. The most exciting part of the trail is the first
600-800 yards of near vertical decomposed granite (no traction) hill. Which
rises approx 1200 feet on the Topo. The remainder of the trail was pretty
much a bust, since we had to turn around and come back..... No one was
looking forward to tackling the hill, but unless we go up, we can't leave.
Ross was 1st, and made it up the 1st section with grave difficulty. The
second section, he winched himself up, due to some advice from me to try the
hill in first gear low. He made good progress, I didn't want him to lose the
progress he made to this point without breaking, so I advised him to winch,
and so he did. Next up was Keith Auble (Crus) and, while we were getting
Ross' Jeep in position to winch the rest of us up, Keith DROVE to the top!
As all our jaws dropped in amazement, Keith was beaming ear to ear, and high
fiving us. Next was Stu, he too winched after making fantastic progress,
however a rock which his Jeep slid into while struggling for traction,
managed to scratch his rim and partly tear his valve stem. It didn't leak,
and the wise thing to do was winch from this position, to prevent further
damage.
I was last up the hill, and having the advantage of watching what worked
and what didn't, I drove up in 2nd gear 4lo with a whole lot of dust and
cool air under my tires. We all made it to the top after that, stacking our
Jeeps in celebration (childish, I know, but it was my idea....).
Those who went thanks for the wonderful memories........... Then there
was the trip down to civilization. But that is another adventure all
together!!
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
12786 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 8:45pm
Subject: Re: TR Crown King 9/16
Grave mistake made in calling Keith's TJ a YJ!! Sorree!!
please forgive, (mama was rushing me to finish!)
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Mish" <yldkat55@h...>
To: "AZ_VJC" <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 8:03 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] TR Crown King 9/16
> Where to begin.
> Originally, it started out as a small idea I had when I
> discovered the road about a year ago. It was what appeared to be a road up
> to Crown King from Table Mesa or Black Canyon city.
> I checked topo maps, it appeared to go through to within 3/4 of a mile
> to the old FR52 from Packer. The upper end of the road from Packer has
been
> closed due to the "Horsethief wilderness area" designation in the area. I
> finally got to wheel it this weekend. It didn't go through as I had
> expected. At least not in the sense of passable by vehicle travel.
>
> Our attempt makes for a good story though, so here goes.
>
> I dropped my truck and trailer off in Black Canyon City. I drove the
Maggie
> Mine trail up into the Bumble Bee trail with Eric in his YJ. Greg Banfield
> And Chet were on Quads. We got as far as Cleator, when Greg's wife Dodi
and
> Glen caught up to us in his CJ-7. We went up the hill (the front way), and
> took a pause for the "b" cause at the saloon and hotel on the west side of
> the street, before heading on up. Eric had turned around to head back home
> in his YJ, he was out of time. When we finally arrived at Tip Top
> trailhead, Stu was already there. I FINALLY MEET THE MAN, THE MYTH, THE
> LEGEND, Stu Olson!!
> Brief introductions, I began bowing feverishly,(in true to form "we're not
> worthy" fashion) before he sent me scampering off for firewood. It was
> getting dark. Greg Chet and Dodi weren't staying up there,
> and now their time was up, so they headed back down the hill. Keith, Rob
and
> Becky were next to arrive in Keith's YJ. Stu and I were swapping stories
and
> pouring over the maps for a plan of attack like 2 generals chasing
> victory......or not... Anyway we were interrupted by the clamorous
entrance.
> "Friends of yours?" Stu asked. To which I replied, " Just wait, It gets
> worse!!" Stu wisely decided on the "peaceful" campsite he already
> established and sent us down the way. We lit the fire. It was Big. Fair
> warning if you camp with us. Don't worry, you won't hurt our feelings!
>
> The trio wanted to go back to town for a Fireman's fund raiser that
> promised lots of excitement and fun. I opted to seclude myself in camp,
> enjoying the magnificent view of the city lights, the moon, the peace and
> quiet of the mountains and the cool breeze blowing thru camp. I am a self
> proclaimed complex and diverse man, which would explain The Kid Rock cd
> blaring from my stereo the next morning......
>
> The trio came back......at 2:00am, I woke and joined in on the party,
which
> ended at 3:00am. I woke with the sun at 5:30am, rekindled the fire, ate
some
> of the most magnificent one's "most magnificent Breakfast burritos". Great
> Job, Stu!!
>
> Ross never arrived, until now, so we broke camp while he attended to his
> last minute details. The most exciting part of the trail is the first
> 600-800 yards of near vertical decomposed granite (no traction) hill.
Which
> rises approx 1200 feet on the Topo. The remainder of the trail was pretty
> much a bust, since we had to turn around and come back..... No one was
> looking forward to tackling the hill, but unless we go up, we can't leave.
> Ross was 1st, and made it up the 1st section with grave difficulty. The
> second section, he winched himself up, due to some advice from me to try
the
> hill in first gear low. He made good progress, I didn't want him to lose
the
> progress he made to this point without breaking, so I advised him to
winch,
> and so he did. Next up was Keith Auble (Crus) and, while we were getting
> Ross' Jeep in position to winch the rest of us up, Keith DROVE to the top!
> As all our jaws dropped in amazement, Keith was beaming ear to ear, and
high
> fiving us. Next was Stu, he too winched after making fantastic progress,
> however a rock which his Jeep slid into while struggling for traction,
> managed to scratch his rim and partly tear his valve stem. It didn't leak,
> and the wise thing to do was winch from this position, to prevent further
> damage.
>
> I was last up the hill, and having the advantage of watching what
worked
> and what didn't, I drove up in 2nd gear 4lo with a whole lot of dust and
> cool air under my tires. We all made it to the top after that, stacking
our
> Jeeps in celebration (childish, I know, but it was my idea....).
>
> Those who went thanks for the wonderful memories........... Then there
> was the trip down to civilization. But that is another adventure all
> together!!
>
>
>
>
> Bill Mish
> Yldkat
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> http://drive.to/yldkat55
>
>
>
>
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12787 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Tue Sep 19, 2000 10:08pm
Subject: Re: DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
FYI. I had problems with Gloeco.
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From: "Jeff Woods" <phjwo@p...>
To: "azvjc" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2000 12:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] DRIVE SHAFT UPGRADES
> I am going to need to have new drive shafts made for my CJ-5. Last
> weekend me and two of my friends tried to install my 327 in my CJ-5. My
> rear drive shaft is two long and my front drive shaft is to short. Maybe
> I should swap them? :-)
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> Anyway any advise is requested.
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> Jeff
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