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12688 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 6:32pm
Subject: Re: Desert Rat
That ought to be nice competition for OffRoad Unlimited less than 1/2
mi E. I wondered who would be occupying that place since it's
already got service bays in the back.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, LindaL <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Was just down on Broadway and Alma School. There's a Desert Rat
sign in
> the window of the old Dick Cepek store.
>
> Linda
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12689 From: Marc Whitrock <marcrock@m...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 7:59pm
Subject: Re: Desert Rat
Good!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "LindaL" <minihummer@w...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 3:46 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Desert Rat
> Was just down on Broadway and Alma School. There's a Desert Rat sign in
> the window of the old Dick Cepek store.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
12690 From: Tom Quinn <tom@q...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 7:04am
Subject: Re: MacroMotive Discount
Yes, but I think it's on-line only at www.macromotive.com. You sign
up using the club account number (952116113295-940) and the discount
prices are shown. It's only on some items I think.
This info is in the database section under the "business directory"
database.
Tom
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Rick Hall" <ricknhall@h...> wrote:
> Don't we get some kind of club discount with MacroMotive.
>
> Rick
12691 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 9:27am
Subject: Alternator Pulley Bolt Torque Specs???
Anyone have a service manual that tells them what the torque specs
are for the alternator pulley bolt? Thanks.
Pete
12692 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 5:44pm
Subject: RE: Ring and Pinion
I don't know if I can agree with 4 Wheelers Supply being the best ones
around, although I did have them do mine this past spring. I had my TJ in
for a noise in the front axle and it was the spindle nut, not properly
torqued. It not longer makes any noise so I must accept the fact that this
was the problem found by the dealer. 4 Wheelers Supply was the last place
that had their wrenches on it.
When I took it down there (before taking it to the dealer), they told me
they were not sure what the noise was but that I could probably keep on
driving it. If it got worse, I could come back.
I am not flaming 4 Wheelers Supply in this post, just putting down the facts
of the case that happened to me. I would still go back to them, most
likely. I had my XJ rear axle rebuilt by a retired Jeep mechanic and I
would say his work was every bit as good....and if it makes a noise, I know
I can take it back and it will be taken care of, no problem.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 12:38 PM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail); Chris
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
Best around is 4 Wheeler Supply, on E. Washington. Prices are good, and they
know there stuff. They do r/p work every day, not just occasionally.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <cmandrick@v...>
To: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail)" <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 10:16 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
>
> Who should I contact for a ring and pinion swap? I was quoted 650 at
> Desert Rat, 600 at Fly-n-Hi, is this what I can expect to pay? Or are
> better deals a-lurking?
>
> Chris
> 87 YJ
>
>
>
12693 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 6:09pm
Subject: RE: Ring and Pinion & 4 Wheelers Supply
I think that 4 wheelers supply generally does good work but when I was
having my transfer case problems, the drained my case and then called me to
see if I wanted them to take it out and look at it (for $300) and I said no
and they never put oil back into the case so later that week I was at jiffy
lube and they didn't measure any oil in the tcase (I was used to the noise
since the planetary gears were all messed up anyway). I had the truck in at
4 wheelers to have my front locker installed not have my tcase fixed when
all this happened.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@u...]
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 5:44 PM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
I don't know if I can agree with 4 Wheelers Supply being the best ones
around, although I did have them do mine this past spring. I had my TJ in
for a noise in the front axle and it was the spindle nut, not properly
torqued. It not longer makes any noise so I must accept the fact that this
was the problem found by the dealer. 4 Wheelers Supply was the last place
that had their wrenches on it.
When I took it down there (before taking it to the dealer), they told me
they were not sure what the noise was but that I could probably keep on
driving it. If it got worse, I could come back.
I am not flaming 4 Wheelers Supply in this post, just putting down the facts
of the case that happened to me. I would still go back to them, most
likely. I had my XJ rear axle rebuilt by a retired Jeep mechanic and I
would say his work was every bit as good....and if it makes a noise, I know
I can take it back and it will be taken care of, no problem.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 12:38 PM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail); Chris
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
Best around is 4 Wheeler Supply, on E. Washington. Prices are good, and they
know there stuff. They do r/p work every day, not just occasionally.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <cmandrick@v...>
To: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail)" <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 10:16 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
>
> Who should I contact for a ring and pinion swap? I was quoted 650 at
> Desert Rat, 600 at Fly-n-Hi, is this what I can expect to pay? Or are
> better deals a-lurking?
>
> Chris
> 87 YJ
>
>
>
12694 From: Hal Loy <tucsonhal@e...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 1:50am
Subject: Chiva Falls
Sory about the last minute cancelation guys, my boss called me tonight while I was at work and told me I had to give a staff meeting tomorrow. I am rescheduling the trip for next Monday, 9/25, and have already told my employer I will be UNAVAILABLE that day, please see if you guys can arrange to get the day off from work, it should be a very enjoyable run.
Thanks,
Hal Loy
Tucson Rough Riders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@earthlink.net
12695 From: Matt Barker <azjeepnut@t...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 5:13am
Subject: RE: Desert Rat
I hope for all of the Phoenix folks sake that they have better customer
service there than at the rest of their retail outlets. As for my
experiences with them, they have shown no concern for customer service and I
will do anything I can not to send any business to them. Every person I
know that has gone into the one at least in Tucson has the same story. You
can be in the store for an hour and no one will even pretend to notice
you're there!! You can even be standing at the counter waiting for help
with someone that works there right in front of you and they won't even
acknowledge you. I've had this happen every time I've been in there, which
is at least 10 or more times, and won't be going back there any more. From
what I've heard it's the same story at all of their retail outlets, so if
you go in there, good luck!
Matt B.
94 YJ
http://azjeeps.web.com
Range Riders 4 Wheelers
Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
12696 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 5:34am
Subject: Re: Desert Rat
You said 1 hour in the shop and they wont even notice it?? Well, took them
like 20 minutes when I was there! Maybe I just got lucky. I decided to
bail and look at 4 Wheelers Supply, where I can say its a whole different
story.
Jesus Chio: http://www.alloffroad.com
Get your own free webpage at: http://signup.alloffroad.com
Lets make a better world, for our parents, us, for our children, for anyone.
YO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@t...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:13 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Desert Rat
> I hope for all of the Phoenix folks sake that they have better customer
> service there than at the rest of their retail outlets. As for my
> experiences with them, they have shown no concern for customer service and
I
> will do anything I can not to send any business to them. Every person I
> know that has gone into the one at least in Tucson has the same story.
You
> can be in the store for an hour and no one will even pretend to notice
> you're there!! You can even be standing at the counter waiting for help
> with someone that works there right in front of you and they won't even
> acknowledge you. I've had this happen every time I've been in there,
which
> is at least 10 or more times, and won't be going back there any more.
From
> what I've heard it's the same story at all of their retail outlets, so if
> you go in there, good luck!
>
> Matt B.
> 94 YJ
> http://azjeeps.web.com
> Range Riders 4 Wheelers
> Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
>
>
>
>
>
12697 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 6:36am
Subject: tie rod question
I bent my tie rod on Log Corral. Doews anyone have suggestions for a stronger replacement? This one isn't bent bad but I think a stronger one would be a good idea and I could strap this one on somewhere as a spare.
Jon
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Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
12698 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 6:55am
Subject: Re: tie rod question
You could get an RE Chromoly rod. Very strong. I've not had a problem w/ mine...though I did bend one about 6 months ago. The nice thing about c/m is that it really doesn't weaken much w/ a bend....and is pretty difficult to bend in the first place.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Loveless
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:36 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] tie rod question
I bent my tie rod on Log Corral. Doews anyone have suggestions for a stronger replacement? This one isn't bent bad but I think a stronger one would be a good idea and I could strap this one on somewhere as a spare.
Jon
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
12699 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 8:12am
Subject: fuel cells
Yo --
Has anyone run a fuel cell in a CJ (or other 4x for that matter)?
I'm putting a 16 or 18 gal cell in the tub of my CJ and want to find
out if there's anything I should be aware of, problems or otherwise.
I originally ordered a 16 gal polyethelyne racing cell in a steel box
from Speedway Racing, but since then a friend donated an 18 gal
marine (boat) fuel tank. One of these is going into my '68 CJ, but I
won't know which until I get a chance to look at the Speedway cell.
The marine tank will be pretty raw and I'd have to make a box for it
as well as plumb the filler to the fender.
Anyone know what the vehicle laws are for gas tanks - can I even use
a racing fuel cell in a road legal car? I can get a tip valve for
the Speedway cell so next time I get my CJ upside down I don't dump
fuel everywhere.
Just looking for the gotchas of running a fuel cell, aside from the
obvious loss of space and cost.
Oh, FWIW, my original 10 gal tank was mounted under the driver's
seat. I'm tying my new seats into the rollcage and can't run the
original tanks, so if anyone's looking for a early (pre 72) CJ gas
tank I'd be willing to sell (cheap) the one I'm replacing.
Thanks all,
Jeff
12700 From: Dion Bozman <amstaff@e...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 8:45am
Subject: Saturday Jack Handle pre-run
Good day: Just wanted to give a public shout out to Mike Chatfield for
leading this past Saturday's Jamboree pre-run of the Jack Handle trail.
Great job, Mike. Though it takes a while to actually get back to the trail
(it's IN there), Jack Handle is a rugged little 3.5-4.0 rockfest. Evidently
the recent monsoon runoff has made it a bit more challenging than it used
to be. The two biggest obstacles are waterfall-type deals that are fun. Our
entire group of YJs, CJs and XJs (and a Sami for good measure) made it
through with little carnage. The weirdest thing? Not a single TJ on this
run. Strange.
Anyone have a writeup or some pictures they'd like to share?
Dion
94YJ Sahara
12701 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 5:42am
Subject: Re: New Locker
I recently had 456 gears, and a Super 35 kit which included a Detroit
Locker installed in my 2000 TJ. I was expecting the nuances of the Detroit
but I was not expecting the shifting of the manual tranny to be affected.
Prior to the installation, gear changes were very smooth, now I have to pause
between gears momentarily or they will slightly grind when shifting . Is
this normal or are their other adjustments that should be made? Any help is
appreciated.
Thanks in advance:
John Butler
12702 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@e...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 11:46am
Subject: Re: fuel cells
funny you should bring this up......I almost bought a fuel cell for
my truck this weekend. The only reason I didn't get one was because
I was concerned about the location of the fuel pickup. All of the
cells I looked at were set up for drag racing and had the fuel pickup
located on the rear wall of the cell. None of them had any type of
pick up tube inside the cell.......just a port in the side with an AN-
8 fitting. This arrangement would be fine for driving on level
surfaces and for going UP hills, but when driving DOWN a hill all of
the fuel would slosh to the front of the cell away from the pickup.
This would only be a concern when the fuel level was below half.
Other than that little problem, it seems like a great idea. Check
out this link for lots of cells and cell accessories:
http://www.martelbros.com/jaz/top.htm
Len Sullivan
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Jeff Meade" <jeffm@d...> wrote:
> Yo --
>
> Has anyone run a fuel cell in a CJ (or other 4x for that matter)?
> I'm putting a 16 or 18 gal cell in the tub of my CJ and want to
find
> out if there's anything I should be aware of, problems or otherwise.
>
> I originally ordered a 16 gal polyethelyne racing cell in a steel
box
> from Speedway Racing, but since then a friend donated an 18 gal
> marine (boat) fuel tank. One of these is going into my '68 CJ, but
I
> won't know which until I get a chance to look at the Speedway
cell.
> The marine tank will be pretty raw and I'd have to make a box for
it
> as well as plumb the filler to the fender.
>
> Anyone know what the vehicle laws are for gas tanks - can I even
use
> a racing fuel cell in a road legal car? I can get a tip valve for
> the Speedway cell so next time I get my CJ upside down I don't dump
> fuel everywhere.
>
> Just looking for the gotchas of running a fuel cell, aside from the
> obvious loss of space and cost.
>
> Oh, FWIW, my original 10 gal tank was mounted under the driver's
> seat. I'm tying my new seats into the rollcage and can't run the
> original tanks, so if anyone's looking for a early (pre 72) CJ gas
> tank I'd be willing to sell (cheap) the one I'm replacing.
>
> Thanks all,
> Jeff
12703 From: <grafik_lar@y...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 11:49am
Subject: Canyon De Chelly
Has anybody ever heard of this Run, If so where is it located and How
hard is it, Etc.
Larry
87' YJ
12704 From: Mike & Anita Chatfield <mchat@h...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 11:39am
Subject: [TR] Sat, Sep 16 - Jack Handle Trip Report
What a hot day it turned out to be!
I met up with Rick (XJ), John (CJ) and Dion (YJ) at the Florence
Junction Texaco. After talking to another group (one with an AZVJC
Sticker) that was prerunning another trail, we headed on in to the
ASA4WDC Jamboree campsite.
After studying the map for a bit, and picking up Steve (YJ) who will
be the Tail Gunner for the Jamboree, we headed on down toward
Martinez Canyon. Jack Handle takes off to the left up one of the
washes on the way to Martinez Cabin/Coke Ovens. After turning out of
Box Canyon you head up and over an interesting ridge with large rock
outcroppings. After you come down the other side, about 1/2 mile you
will find a windmill on the left; this is where Jack Handle starts
and finishes.
After scouting around a bit by the Windmill, we locked in and headed
up the wash. Pretty easy going at first with a few rocks just big
enough to grab your diff. A trail leads off to the left a little way
up the wash, this is where the loop comes back into the wash on the
way out. Next the wash split, I got out to investigate. One wash
was clearly the route as it had tire tracks and a tight waterfall.
The other route had no tracks and an obstacle that would easily turn
this run into a 4.5(+).
Water had been rushing down creating a small hole in front of the
waterfall. This caused everyone to scrape their front spring
shackles a little on the way up. It was definitly a tight squeeze as
I'm sure Rick would tell you; I believe he had only a few inches left
and right to spare. About this time, a couple more vehicles showed
up behind us. I don't remember the names, but the vehicles were an
XJ and a Suzuki Sammi.
The trail continues up the winding wash, with a few solid 3.5(+) to
4.0 obstacles. All along the way there are rocks just waiting to
grab a diff and hang you up, so tire placement is key. About noon,
we came to a place where a trail split off to the right. After a
brief journey up the wash, we realized that we needed to take that
trail. The obstacles in front of us were definitly 4.5(+), if
passable at all. After a lesson in backing down a narrow wash, I
became the tail gunner.
The trail continues a little way up the wash, winding its way to the
top, and comes out on an old mining trail. This trail follows the
ridge and allows you to look down on the wash you just came up; then
dumps you back in the wash at the beginning.
Overall, I'd say that the ASA4WDC Trail rating (3.5+)is about
accurate, although a full size would definitly find it more difficult.
After returning to the main wash, we split up as John and Dion wanted
to head down Box Canyon. Rick, the other XJ, the Suzi and I went
back up Box Canyon, playing on a few of the post monsoon obstacles.
All in all, this is going to be a nice trail to run for the Jamboree,
but I wouldn't want to do it again until it cools off.
Thanks to everyone who came out, I hope you had a good time, even as
hot as it was.
- Mike Chatfield
12705 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 10:42am
Subject: Re: tie rod question
We've got one in stock if anyone is interested. Runs $106.80 +
shipping. We add the shipping because that is what it cost to get it to
us and that is what would have been charged to get it to you. Rather
than mark all of our prices up to include shipping and not be all
correct for different areas, etc, etc, etc, we give piece part pricing
and then charge on a per person basis for shipping. You pick it up from
us at our place, we charge the shipping it cost to get it to us. We
ship it directly to you, you pay the shipping to get it to you. Sounds
backwards from most companies, but we believe it saves YOU, the
customer, money by not having us factor in a shipping charge that might
be less for you because it is based on a guy in Iowa. You know what I
mean?
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller
President
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
12706 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 10:46am
Subject: Predator Directions
Anyone got some verbal or otherwise directions that they can give to
direct me on finding the Predator run? I'm thinking of running this
soon, but obviously I need to figure out where it is. Anyone who knows
where it's at wanna run it this Saturday?
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller
President
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
12707 From: Randy Davis <davisrandy2@n...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 5:03am
Subject: TieRod Help!!
Hi All
Randy Here,I Have A Little Problem With A Tierod
I Have A 90 YJ With A 31/2" Superlift And Drop
Pitman Arm.The Problem Is That When I Hit A Dip
Or Bump That Compresses The Suspension The Tierod
Hits The Tierod End On The Pitman Arm.I Checked
Everything Out Under The Jeep And Things Look
Fine The Bar Is Not Bent And The Axle Isn't
Pushed Forward.It Would Be Easy To Fix Just
By Putting A 1" Shackle Lift On And Getting The
Bar Away From The Pitman But I Can't Do This
Yet I Have To Get The SYE Done First.So If
Any Of You Have Any Ideas Please Let Me Know!!
Randy 90 Black YJ Locked & Lifted
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12708 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 0:38pm
Subject: Re: Canyon De Chelly
It's not hard at all...but requires a guide and a fairly substantial fee,
from what I understand.
----- Original Message -----
From: <grafik_lar@y...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:49 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Canyon De Chelly
> Has anybody ever heard of this Run, If so where is it located and How
> hard is it, Etc.
>
>
> Larry
> 87' YJ
>
>
>
>
>
12709 From: <biglowt@a...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 9:09am
Subject: K&N filters
Anyone put these in their Jeeps and notice an improvement? Not only in power
but in fuel economy? My air filter is due to be replaced, so I am thinking
of getting a kandn. Tom
12710 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 9:49am
Subject: Re: tie rod question
Hey Jon,
I went with the Rubicon Express tie rod from Toybox Offroad for $106.00 and
it is awesome compared to the stock one. Im more than happy with mine.
Sharky
12711 From: Williams, Rob <rob@r...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 2:58pm
Subject: RE: K&N filters
I put the K&N in my 98 TJ (6cyl), and I can tell the difference. I didn't
get it dyno'd so I couldn't tell you the horsepower improvement, but they
claim its like 5 more horses. Gas consumption however I dont know. I always
eat gas because I drive with a lead foot. My TJ has a square filter in a
sealed box, so if you have a coffee can filter, or the old filter on top of
the carb deal you will see even more improvement then I did. My $.02 -Rob
12712 From: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Predator Directions
Myself and Bill white will be doing Predator sometime soon to pre-run it for
the Jamboree. Don't know the details yet. It will probably be in the next
week or two and it will be a daytime run. Hopefully it will cool off soon.
The entrance of the trail is near a coral on the way back from Upper
Terminator.
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:46 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Predator Directions
> Anyone got some verbal or otherwise directions that they can give to
> direct me on finding the Predator run? I'm thinking of running this
> soon, but obviously I need to figure out where it is. Anyone who knows
> where it's at wanna run it this Saturday?
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> President
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
>
>
>
>
12688 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2000 6:32pm
Subject: Re: Desert Rat
That ought to be nice competition for OffRoad Unlimited less than 1/2
mi E. I wondered who would be occupying that place since it's
already got service bays in the back.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, LindaL <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Was just down on Broadway and Alma School. There's a Desert Rat
sign in
> the window of the old Dick Cepek store.
>
> Linda
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADVERTISEMENT
12689 From: Marc Whitrock <marcrock@m...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 7:59pm
Subject: Re: Desert Rat
Good!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "LindaL" <minihummer@w...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 3:46 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Desert Rat
> Was just down on Broadway and Alma School. There's a Desert Rat sign in
> the window of the old Dick Cepek store.
>
> Linda
>
>
>
>
12690 From: Tom Quinn <tom@q...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 7:04am
Subject: Re: MacroMotive Discount
Yes, but I think it's on-line only at www.macromotive.com. You sign
up using the club account number (952116113295-940) and the discount
prices are shown. It's only on some items I think.
This info is in the database section under the "business directory"
database.
Tom
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Rick Hall" <ricknhall@h...> wrote:
> Don't we get some kind of club discount with MacroMotive.
>
> Rick
12691 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 9:27am
Subject: Alternator Pulley Bolt Torque Specs???
Anyone have a service manual that tells them what the torque specs
are for the alternator pulley bolt? Thanks.
Pete
12692 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 5:44pm
Subject: RE: Ring and Pinion
I don't know if I can agree with 4 Wheelers Supply being the best ones
around, although I did have them do mine this past spring. I had my TJ in
for a noise in the front axle and it was the spindle nut, not properly
torqued. It not longer makes any noise so I must accept the fact that this
was the problem found by the dealer. 4 Wheelers Supply was the last place
that had their wrenches on it.
When I took it down there (before taking it to the dealer), they told me
they were not sure what the noise was but that I could probably keep on
driving it. If it got worse, I could come back.
I am not flaming 4 Wheelers Supply in this post, just putting down the facts
of the case that happened to me. I would still go back to them, most
likely. I had my XJ rear axle rebuilt by a retired Jeep mechanic and I
would say his work was every bit as good....and if it makes a noise, I know
I can take it back and it will be taken care of, no problem.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 12:38 PM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail); Chris
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
Best around is 4 Wheeler Supply, on E. Washington. Prices are good, and they
know there stuff. They do r/p work every day, not just occasionally.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <cmandrick@v...>
To: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail)" <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 10:16 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
>
> Who should I contact for a ring and pinion swap? I was quoted 650 at
> Desert Rat, 600 at Fly-n-Hi, is this what I can expect to pay? Or are
> better deals a-lurking?
>
> Chris
> 87 YJ
>
>
>
12693 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Sun Sep 17, 2000 6:09pm
Subject: RE: Ring and Pinion & 4 Wheelers Supply
I think that 4 wheelers supply generally does good work but when I was
having my transfer case problems, the drained my case and then called me to
see if I wanted them to take it out and look at it (for $300) and I said no
and they never put oil back into the case so later that week I was at jiffy
lube and they didn't measure any oil in the tcase (I was used to the noise
since the planetary gears were all messed up anyway). I had the truck in at
4 wheelers to have my front locker installed not have my tcase fixed when
all this happened.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@u...]
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 5:44 PM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail)
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
I don't know if I can agree with 4 Wheelers Supply being the best ones
around, although I did have them do mine this past spring. I had my TJ in
for a noise in the front axle and it was the spindle nut, not properly
torqued. It not longer makes any noise so I must accept the fact that this
was the problem found by the dealer. 4 Wheelers Supply was the last place
that had their wrenches on it.
When I took it down there (before taking it to the dealer), they told me
they were not sure what the noise was but that I could probably keep on
driving it. If it got worse, I could come back.
I am not flaming 4 Wheelers Supply in this post, just putting down the facts
of the case that happened to me. I would still go back to them, most
likely. I had my XJ rear axle rebuilt by a retired Jeep mechanic and I
would say his work was every bit as good....and if it makes a noise, I know
I can take it back and it will be taken care of, no problem.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 12:38 PM
To: Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail); Chris
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
Best around is 4 Wheeler Supply, on E. Washington. Prices are good, and they
know there stuff. They do r/p work every day, not just occasionally.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <cmandrick@v...>
To: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club (E-mail)" <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2000 10:16 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Ring and Pinion
>
> Who should I contact for a ring and pinion swap? I was quoted 650 at
> Desert Rat, 600 at Fly-n-Hi, is this what I can expect to pay? Or are
> better deals a-lurking?
>
> Chris
> 87 YJ
>
>
>
12694 From: Hal Loy <tucsonhal@e...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 1:50am
Subject: Chiva Falls
Sory about the last minute cancelation guys, my boss called me tonight while I was at work and told me I had to give a staff meeting tomorrow. I am rescheduling the trip for next Monday, 9/25, and have already told my employer I will be UNAVAILABLE that day, please see if you guys can arrange to get the day off from work, it should be a very enjoyable run.
Thanks,
Hal Loy
Tucson Rough Riders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@earthlink.net
12695 From: Matt Barker <azjeepnut@t...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 5:13am
Subject: RE: Desert Rat
I hope for all of the Phoenix folks sake that they have better customer
service there than at the rest of their retail outlets. As for my
experiences with them, they have shown no concern for customer service and I
will do anything I can not to send any business to them. Every person I
know that has gone into the one at least in Tucson has the same story. You
can be in the store for an hour and no one will even pretend to notice
you're there!! You can even be standing at the counter waiting for help
with someone that works there right in front of you and they won't even
acknowledge you. I've had this happen every time I've been in there, which
is at least 10 or more times, and won't be going back there any more. From
what I've heard it's the same story at all of their retail outlets, so if
you go in there, good luck!
Matt B.
94 YJ
http://azjeeps.web.com
Range Riders 4 Wheelers
Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
12696 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 5:34am
Subject: Re: Desert Rat
You said 1 hour in the shop and they wont even notice it?? Well, took them
like 20 minutes when I was there! Maybe I just got lucky. I decided to
bail and look at 4 Wheelers Supply, where I can say its a whole different
story.
Jesus Chio: http://www.alloffroad.com
Get your own free webpage at: http://signup.alloffroad.com
Lets make a better world, for our parents, us, for our children, for anyone.
YO.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@t...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 7:13 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Desert Rat
> I hope for all of the Phoenix folks sake that they have better customer
> service there than at the rest of their retail outlets. As for my
> experiences with them, they have shown no concern for customer service and
I
> will do anything I can not to send any business to them. Every person I
> know that has gone into the one at least in Tucson has the same story.
You
> can be in the store for an hour and no one will even pretend to notice
> you're there!! You can even be standing at the counter waiting for help
> with someone that works there right in front of you and they won't even
> acknowledge you. I've had this happen every time I've been in there,
which
> is at least 10 or more times, and won't be going back there any more.
From
> what I've heard it's the same story at all of their retail outlets, so if
> you go in there, good luck!
>
> Matt B.
> 94 YJ
> http://azjeeps.web.com
> Range Riders 4 Wheelers
> Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
>
>
>
>
>
12697 From: Jon Loveless <jonloveless@m...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 6:36am
Subject: tie rod question
I bent my tie rod on Log Corral. Doews anyone have suggestions for a stronger replacement? This one isn't bent bad but I think a stronger one would be a good idea and I could strap this one on somewhere as a spare.
Jon
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
12698 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 6:55am
Subject: Re: tie rod question
You could get an RE Chromoly rod. Very strong. I've not had a problem w/ mine...though I did bend one about 6 months ago. The nice thing about c/m is that it really doesn't weaken much w/ a bend....and is pretty difficult to bend in the first place.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Loveless
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 6:36 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] tie rod question
I bent my tie rod on Log Corral. Doews anyone have suggestions for a stronger replacement? This one isn't bent bad but I think a stronger one would be a good idea and I could strap this one on somewhere as a spare.
Jon
------------------------------------------
Jon Loveless
(602)432-7860 cell
(480)816-6240 home
jonloveless@mindspring.com
12699 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 8:12am
Subject: fuel cells
Yo --
Has anyone run a fuel cell in a CJ (or other 4x for that matter)?
I'm putting a 16 or 18 gal cell in the tub of my CJ and want to find
out if there's anything I should be aware of, problems or otherwise.
I originally ordered a 16 gal polyethelyne racing cell in a steel box
from Speedway Racing, but since then a friend donated an 18 gal
marine (boat) fuel tank. One of these is going into my '68 CJ, but I
won't know which until I get a chance to look at the Speedway cell.
The marine tank will be pretty raw and I'd have to make a box for it
as well as plumb the filler to the fender.
Anyone know what the vehicle laws are for gas tanks - can I even use
a racing fuel cell in a road legal car? I can get a tip valve for
the Speedway cell so next time I get my CJ upside down I don't dump
fuel everywhere.
Just looking for the gotchas of running a fuel cell, aside from the
obvious loss of space and cost.
Oh, FWIW, my original 10 gal tank was mounted under the driver's
seat. I'm tying my new seats into the rollcage and can't run the
original tanks, so if anyone's looking for a early (pre 72) CJ gas
tank I'd be willing to sell (cheap) the one I'm replacing.
Thanks all,
Jeff
12700 From: Dion Bozman <amstaff@e...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 8:45am
Subject: Saturday Jack Handle pre-run
Good day: Just wanted to give a public shout out to Mike Chatfield for
leading this past Saturday's Jamboree pre-run of the Jack Handle trail.
Great job, Mike. Though it takes a while to actually get back to the trail
(it's IN there), Jack Handle is a rugged little 3.5-4.0 rockfest. Evidently
the recent monsoon runoff has made it a bit more challenging than it used
to be. The two biggest obstacles are waterfall-type deals that are fun. Our
entire group of YJs, CJs and XJs (and a Sami for good measure) made it
through with little carnage. The weirdest thing? Not a single TJ on this
run. Strange.
Anyone have a writeup or some pictures they'd like to share?
Dion
94YJ Sahara
12701 From: <JNB4PLS@a...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 5:42am
Subject: Re: New Locker
I recently had 456 gears, and a Super 35 kit which included a Detroit
Locker installed in my 2000 TJ. I was expecting the nuances of the Detroit
but I was not expecting the shifting of the manual tranny to be affected.
Prior to the installation, gear changes were very smooth, now I have to pause
between gears momentarily or they will slightly grind when shifting . Is
this normal or are their other adjustments that should be made? Any help is
appreciated.
Thanks in advance:
John Butler
12702 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@e...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 11:46am
Subject: Re: fuel cells
funny you should bring this up......I almost bought a fuel cell for
my truck this weekend. The only reason I didn't get one was because
I was concerned about the location of the fuel pickup. All of the
cells I looked at were set up for drag racing and had the fuel pickup
located on the rear wall of the cell. None of them had any type of
pick up tube inside the cell.......just a port in the side with an AN-
8 fitting. This arrangement would be fine for driving on level
surfaces and for going UP hills, but when driving DOWN a hill all of
the fuel would slosh to the front of the cell away from the pickup.
This would only be a concern when the fuel level was below half.
Other than that little problem, it seems like a great idea. Check
out this link for lots of cells and cell accessories:
http://www.martelbros.com/jaz/top.htm
Len Sullivan
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Jeff Meade" <jeffm@d...> wrote:
> Yo --
>
> Has anyone run a fuel cell in a CJ (or other 4x for that matter)?
> I'm putting a 16 or 18 gal cell in the tub of my CJ and want to
find
> out if there's anything I should be aware of, problems or otherwise.
>
> I originally ordered a 16 gal polyethelyne racing cell in a steel
box
> from Speedway Racing, but since then a friend donated an 18 gal
> marine (boat) fuel tank. One of these is going into my '68 CJ, but
I
> won't know which until I get a chance to look at the Speedway
cell.
> The marine tank will be pretty raw and I'd have to make a box for
it
> as well as plumb the filler to the fender.
>
> Anyone know what the vehicle laws are for gas tanks - can I even
use
> a racing fuel cell in a road legal car? I can get a tip valve for
> the Speedway cell so next time I get my CJ upside down I don't dump
> fuel everywhere.
>
> Just looking for the gotchas of running a fuel cell, aside from the
> obvious loss of space and cost.
>
> Oh, FWIW, my original 10 gal tank was mounted under the driver's
> seat. I'm tying my new seats into the rollcage and can't run the
> original tanks, so if anyone's looking for a early (pre 72) CJ gas
> tank I'd be willing to sell (cheap) the one I'm replacing.
>
> Thanks all,
> Jeff
12703 From: <grafik_lar@y...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 11:49am
Subject: Canyon De Chelly
Has anybody ever heard of this Run, If so where is it located and How
hard is it, Etc.
Larry
87' YJ
12704 From: Mike & Anita Chatfield <mchat@h...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 11:39am
Subject: [TR] Sat, Sep 16 - Jack Handle Trip Report
What a hot day it turned out to be!
I met up with Rick (XJ), John (CJ) and Dion (YJ) at the Florence
Junction Texaco. After talking to another group (one with an AZVJC
Sticker) that was prerunning another trail, we headed on in to the
ASA4WDC Jamboree campsite.
After studying the map for a bit, and picking up Steve (YJ) who will
be the Tail Gunner for the Jamboree, we headed on down toward
Martinez Canyon. Jack Handle takes off to the left up one of the
washes on the way to Martinez Cabin/Coke Ovens. After turning out of
Box Canyon you head up and over an interesting ridge with large rock
outcroppings. After you come down the other side, about 1/2 mile you
will find a windmill on the left; this is where Jack Handle starts
and finishes.
After scouting around a bit by the Windmill, we locked in and headed
up the wash. Pretty easy going at first with a few rocks just big
enough to grab your diff. A trail leads off to the left a little way
up the wash, this is where the loop comes back into the wash on the
way out. Next the wash split, I got out to investigate. One wash
was clearly the route as it had tire tracks and a tight waterfall.
The other route had no tracks and an obstacle that would easily turn
this run into a 4.5(+).
Water had been rushing down creating a small hole in front of the
waterfall. This caused everyone to scrape their front spring
shackles a little on the way up. It was definitly a tight squeeze as
I'm sure Rick would tell you; I believe he had only a few inches left
and right to spare. About this time, a couple more vehicles showed
up behind us. I don't remember the names, but the vehicles were an
XJ and a Suzuki Sammi.
The trail continues up the winding wash, with a few solid 3.5(+) to
4.0 obstacles. All along the way there are rocks just waiting to
grab a diff and hang you up, so tire placement is key. About noon,
we came to a place where a trail split off to the right. After a
brief journey up the wash, we realized that we needed to take that
trail. The obstacles in front of us were definitly 4.5(+), if
passable at all. After a lesson in backing down a narrow wash, I
became the tail gunner.
The trail continues a little way up the wash, winding its way to the
top, and comes out on an old mining trail. This trail follows the
ridge and allows you to look down on the wash you just came up; then
dumps you back in the wash at the beginning.
Overall, I'd say that the ASA4WDC Trail rating (3.5+)is about
accurate, although a full size would definitly find it more difficult.
After returning to the main wash, we split up as John and Dion wanted
to head down Box Canyon. Rick, the other XJ, the Suzi and I went
back up Box Canyon, playing on a few of the post monsoon obstacles.
All in all, this is going to be a nice trail to run for the Jamboree,
but I wouldn't want to do it again until it cools off.
Thanks to everyone who came out, I hope you had a good time, even as
hot as it was.
- Mike Chatfield
12705 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 10:42am
Subject: Re: tie rod question
We've got one in stock if anyone is interested. Runs $106.80 +
shipping. We add the shipping because that is what it cost to get it to
us and that is what would have been charged to get it to you. Rather
than mark all of our prices up to include shipping and not be all
correct for different areas, etc, etc, etc, we give piece part pricing
and then charge on a per person basis for shipping. You pick it up from
us at our place, we charge the shipping it cost to get it to us. We
ship it directly to you, you pay the shipping to get it to you. Sounds
backwards from most companies, but we believe it saves YOU, the
customer, money by not having us factor in a shipping charge that might
be less for you because it is based on a guy in Iowa. You know what I
mean?
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller
President
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
12706 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 10:46am
Subject: Predator Directions
Anyone got some verbal or otherwise directions that they can give to
direct me on finding the Predator run? I'm thinking of running this
soon, but obviously I need to figure out where it is. Anyone who knows
where it's at wanna run it this Saturday?
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller
President
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
12707 From: Randy Davis <davisrandy2@n...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 5:03am
Subject: TieRod Help!!
Hi All
Randy Here,I Have A Little Problem With A Tierod
I Have A 90 YJ With A 31/2" Superlift And Drop
Pitman Arm.The Problem Is That When I Hit A Dip
Or Bump That Compresses The Suspension The Tierod
Hits The Tierod End On The Pitman Arm.I Checked
Everything Out Under The Jeep And Things Look
Fine The Bar Is Not Bent And The Axle Isn't
Pushed Forward.It Would Be Easy To Fix Just
By Putting A 1" Shackle Lift On And Getting The
Bar Away From The Pitman But I Can't Do This
Yet I Have To Get The SYE Done First.So If
Any Of You Have Any Ideas Please Let Me Know!!
Randy 90 Black YJ Locked & Lifted
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12708 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 0:38pm
Subject: Re: Canyon De Chelly
It's not hard at all...but requires a guide and a fairly substantial fee,
from what I understand.
----- Original Message -----
From: <grafik_lar@y...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:49 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Canyon De Chelly
> Has anybody ever heard of this Run, If so where is it located and How
> hard is it, Etc.
>
>
> Larry
> 87' YJ
>
>
>
>
>
12709 From: <biglowt@a...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 9:09am
Subject: K&N filters
Anyone put these in their Jeeps and notice an improvement? Not only in power
but in fuel economy? My air filter is due to be replaced, so I am thinking
of getting a kandn. Tom
12710 From: <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 9:49am
Subject: Re: tie rod question
Hey Jon,
I went with the Rubicon Express tie rod from Toybox Offroad for $106.00 and
it is awesome compared to the stock one. Im more than happy with mine.
Sharky
12711 From: Williams, Rob <rob@r...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 2:58pm
Subject: RE: K&N filters
I put the K&N in my 98 TJ (6cyl), and I can tell the difference. I didn't
get it dyno'd so I couldn't tell you the horsepower improvement, but they
claim its like 5 more horses. Gas consumption however I dont know. I always
eat gas because I drive with a lead foot. My TJ has a square filter in a
sealed box, so if you have a coffee can filter, or the old filter on top of
the carb deal you will see even more improvement then I did. My $.02 -Rob
12712 From: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
Date: Mon Sep 18, 2000 3:02pm
Subject: Re: Predator Directions
Myself and Bill white will be doing Predator sometime soon to pre-run it for
the Jamboree. Don't know the details yet. It will probably be in the next
week or two and it will be a daytime run. Hopefully it will cool off soon.
The entrance of the trail is near a coral on the way back from Upper
Terminator.
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 10:46 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Predator Directions
> Anyone got some verbal or otherwise directions that they can give to
> direct me on finding the Predator run? I'm thinking of running this
> soon, but obviously I need to figure out where it is. Anyone who knows
> where it's at wanna run it this Saturday?
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> President
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
>
>
>
>