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12463 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 8, 2000 11:48pm
Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
Find a 7 blade fixed fan that fits your motor, arrange it so that 3/4" of
the blades stick outside the shroud...
IMHO you are on the right track
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
To: "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
> What are the pros and cons of running a fixed engine driven fan vs the
stock
> fan/clutch arrangement? I'm not as concerned about possible horsepower
loss
> (if there is any) of the fixed fan. I'm looking for cooling efficiency.
> If fixed fan is the way to go, anyone have any recommendations for a good
> fan?
>
> ChrisK
> 97 TJ
>
>
>
>
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12464 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 0:10am
Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
I agree with every thing Jay has said, but personally, I don't subscribe or
agree with the "clutch" fan mentality. Get rid of the clutch, and the
flexible blades. Quit quibbling over the chump change horsepower loss. 7
blade fixed will not strand you, it takes up less room, and it will cool you
when your buddies clutch fan gives up the ghost.
Personally, I run an Electric puller now. With a 1966 340 Buick motor,
10.25:1 compression. As long as I keep the 100 Low Lead in it, I have no
problems. Pump gas is really not an option for this motor, although in
winter I have run it. When I go to the 460 Ford, I'll run a fixed 7 blade,
and a pusher fan.
I also service my cooling system twice a year, summer time, I use
distilled water and "water wetter" or equivalent. Winter, I use distilled
water and 50-50 Ethylene Glycol mix. When I drain and switch, I backflush
the block and the radiator. So far, It's treated me right.
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
Cc: "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
> Boy....this one has been covered a lot, but is always good for some more
go
> rounds. The general consensus seems to be a stock 7 blade fan and thermal
> clutch type of fan is far superior to a fixed flex style of fan. So.....I
guess
> that about sums it up. Electrics are good at low speeds, but are less
reliable,
> draw lots of current, and work poorly at higher vehicle speeds (assuming
they
> are used in conjunction with a custom fan shroud. Fixed with fan clutch
appears
> to be the collectives cooling of choice.
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> President
> Toybox Off-Road
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
> Chris Krieg wrote:
>
> > What are the pros and cons of running a fixed engine driven fan vs the
stock
> > fan/clutch arrangement? I'm not as concerned about possible horsepower
loss
> > (if there is any) of the fixed fan. I'm looking for cooling efficiency.
> > If fixed fan is the way to go, anyone have any recommendations for a
good
> > fan?
> >
> > ChrisK
> > 97 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
12465 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 5:23am
Subject: Re: 4x4 wannabes -- this is cute.
I particularly liked the Kenworth SUV. Where can I get wanna does??
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Mish" <yldkat55@h...>
To: <minihummer@w...>; <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] 4x4 wannabes -- this is cute.
> Hilarious!! What a riot! My lil' Suv is gaining weight soon. I'm planning
a
> custom frame, stretching the Yldkat to 93" wheelbase, Ford 460, C-6, NP
205,
> D60 front and rear. Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore! The Scout
> 80 project is getting scrapped to do this. Hey, sometimes you have to spin
> your wheels to get up the hill..... Still plan on ARB's, but the gear
ratio
> will drop to 5.13:1 ( max allowable by the D60 rev. rotation). If all goes
> well, I wont miss any Jeeping except when the body is transferred from one
> chassis to the other, Which I predict will happen around summer next
> year..... Unless I come into a large sum of money between now and then. I
> probably wont sell anything off until after it is completely built.
>
> Bill Mish
> Yldkat
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> http://drive.to/yldkat55
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LindaL" <minihummer@w...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:02 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] 4x4 wannabes -- this is cute.
>
>
> > Check this out. Especially the Poser sightings.
> >
> > http://poseur.4x4.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
12466 From: Rick Hall <rnhall@a...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 6:08am
Subject: Locker Thoughts
I finally got to take the Jeep out for an extended run (Edwards Park) to really get the feel for the new PowerTrax. They performed as expected but I have an observation-
The Good Thing about the lockers is: Before with open diffs I had to carefully pick my lines and concentrate on maintaining enough power to propel me through obstacles or up hills without damaging my ride. Not anymore.
The Bad Thing about lockers is: Before with open diffs I had to carefully pick my lines and concentrate on maintaining enough power to propel me through obstacles or up hills without damaging my ride. Not anymore.
Don't get me wrong I like the lockers (I am not a rockcrawler unless they are in the way of where I am going) but I kinda miss the excitement that even a mild run could bring with open diffs. I know there are bigger obstacles that I couldn't even attempt before but.....
Rick
12467 From: <dunk95@h...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 7:21am
Subject: Wanted: YJ Springs
Yes it me againg wanting things, Does any one have stock YJ leaf
springs for sale? Mine have a real bad negative arch now.
12468 From: Bob Nyberg <r.nyberg@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 7:37am
Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
Bill is correct IMO. I run a fixed 7 blade set up with factory shroud like this
on a 304 and have never had a cooling problem.
Bob
William Mish wrote:
> Find a 7 blade fixed fan that fits your motor, arrange it so that 3/4" of
> the blades stick outside the shroud...
> IMHO you are on the right track
> Bill Mish
> Yldkat
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> http://drive.to/yldkat55
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
> To: "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:08 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
>
> > What are the pros and cons of running a fixed engine driven fan vs the
> stock
> > fan/clutch arrangement? I'm not as concerned about possible horsepower
> loss
> > (if there is any) of the fixed fan. I'm looking for cooling efficiency.
> > If fixed fan is the way to go, anyone have any recommendations for a good
> > fan?
> >
> > ChrisK
> > 97 TJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
12469 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 8:07am
Subject: Re: steering box removal
A 3/4 drive socket set. Harbor freight $35.00
----- Original Message -----
From: "LindaL" <minihummer@w...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>; "xj_az" <arizonaXJ@egroups.com>; "zj-list"
<zj-list@m...>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:13 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] steering box removal
> Anyone have any handy hints for breaking free a pitman arm nut that's
> torqued on at 185 ft-lbs?
> Linda
>
>
>
>
12470 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 9:23am
Subject: VJC sighting
So who here is the other AZVJC San Tan soccer parent that drives the green
TJ with the black top that I gave my parking spot to this morning? I was in
the Blue TJ.
ChrisK
12471 From: <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 5:44am
Subject: The power of the mouse...
Early last week I posted the address to my web site on the AZVJC e-group so
that I could welcome a friend to the group. Over the next two days my site
had nearly 300 hits! For the three days after that there was only 30, wow. I
am impressed with the power this group must be able to exercise on local
business', such as the resent discussion of a Jeep Dealer and the possibility
of a group rate on Flatbed trailers. Its great to be a part of this group!!
Chris
Lewis
www.azrocks.alloffroad.com
12472 From: Daniel Weed <revolvr@a...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 10:06am
Subject: Modifying a late model ZJ???
As some of you know, we have his and hers TJs in our garage. We've
finally concluded that two TJs isn't really practical, so we will
probably be finding a new home for my wife's and replacing it with a
Grand Cherokee.
Of course, as soon as I have it, I'll be wanting new tires, wheels,
lift, etc. etc. y'all know the symptoms of this disease...
But I know nothing about modifying a ZJ, particluarily a 2000 model.
The mods would be modest - serious Jeeping would be the domain of the
TJ, but I'd like to be able to go places like Edwards Park or Dupont
Cabin, Cherry creek and such. So I think I'm looking at perhaps a 2
inch spacer lift, 31 inch tires max, give or take an inch or two ;-)
So, can anyone give me some advice on what options to get (select
track vs quadra track? The off road package?) and what mods I can do
without getting extreme? Are their some good web sites out there? ZJ
mailing lists?
Thanks!
-- Dan
Revolvr@a...
Humble and Addicted Moderator
12473 From: <a74cj6@a...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 6:11am
Subject: help, anyone done a mechanical to hydraulic clutch conversion??
After doing (attempting) Terminator I've decided to finally upgrade the
mechanical clutch linkage on my '74 cj-6. I looked around and found Advance
Adapters had a list of parts needed for the conversion to hydraulic. So, I
ordered the parts and as usual, it isn't working out like it does on paper.
First, the hose from the slave to the master cylider has an extra 15 inches
of bent tubing on the slave end, which puts the end of the hose 15 inches
away from where the slave cylinder will be. The fix, disregard everyone's
selection of the part number and buy AA's steel braided 40" hose that leaves
off all of the bent tubing.
Second, and actually most important, the piston on the master cylinder is 4"
long, but the pedal mount is 6" away from the firewall. AA said the pedal
mount will work for both because the pedal assembly didn't change with the
factory switch from mech. to hyd. AA did say firewall modifications would be
needed but the tech said that was drilling it for the master cylinder (which
I can handle). What he didn't say was that I would have to remove that
section of the firewall and move it into the cab a couple inches (which I
don't really want to do, even if I thought I could and keep it structurally
sound).
So the million dollar (or two cent, depends on how you look at it) question
is, has anyone done, or know someone who has done this conversion and can let
me know what actually needs to be done to make the master cylinder fit. AA
is closed today but I verified part numbers with them half a dozen times
before so it's either wrong on their end, or on my end by me not realizing
how to make a 4" piston 6" long. I've never done anything from AA before
and I'm realizing they're very specific on part numbers, but very vague in
the 'what to do with them' department. On paper this conversion is a no
brainer but when the pieces don't fit, I'd rather not have my vehicle's
clutch system relying on my creative thinking (or lack of).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Devon
1974 CJ-6
a74cj6@a...
www.5pillars.com/ucan2
www.homestead.com/a74cj6
12474 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 11:31am
Subject: Re: Modifying a late model ZJ???
Personally if I was doing it I would get the full quadra drive package
complete with the hydadrive axles. This would make it great on winter
roads when heading to sking. Also with the F&R limited slips you should
be pretty good off road.
Daniel Weed wrote:
>
> As some of you know, we have his and hers TJs in our garage. We've
> finally concluded that two TJs isn't really practical, so we will
> probably be finding a new home for my wife's and replacing it with a
> Grand Cherokee.
>
> Of course, as soon as I have it, I'll be wanting new tires, wheels,
> lift, etc. etc. y'all know the symptoms of this disease...
>
> But I know nothing about modifying a ZJ, particluarily a 2000 model.
> The mods would be modest - serious Jeeping would be the domain of the
> TJ, but I'd like to be able to go places like Edwards Park or Dupont
> Cabin, Cherry creek and such. So I think I'm looking at perhaps a 2
> inch spacer lift, 31 inch tires max, give or take an inch or two ;-)
>
> So, can anyone give me some advice on what options to get (select
> track vs quadra track? The off road package?) and what mods I can do
> without getting extreme? Are their some good web sites out there? ZJ
> mailing lists?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Dan
> Revolvr@a...
> Humble and Addicted Moderator
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
12475 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 11:57am
Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
It's no problem repeating things with me. We get new members all of the time who
may not have heard it. AND.....I tend to ask the same question within 6 months
because I always seem to forget what the answers where! ;-) No problems here with
repeating answers!!
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller
President
Toybox Off-Road
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
Chris Krieg wrote:
> Thanks Jay. Sorry if this has subject was done before. I'm just getting
> frustrated by my stupid cooling system.
>
> Chris
>
> > From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
> > Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 21:01:32 -0700
> > Cc: Virtual Jeep Club <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
> >
> > Boy....this one has been covered a lot, but is always good for some more go
> > rounds. The general consensus seems to be a stock 7 blade fan and thermal
> > clutch type of fan is far superior to a fixed flex style of fan. So.....I
> > guess
> > that about sums it up. Electrics are good at low speeds, but are less
> > reliable,
> > draw lots of current, and work poorly at higher vehicle speeds (assuming they
> > are used in conjunction with a custom fan shroud. Fixed with fan clutch
> > appears
> > to be the collectives cooling of choice.
> > --
12476 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 1:15pm
Subject: Re: Modifying a late model ZJ???
Though the new WJs are nice, the older ZJ is, IMHO, a better 4x4 for the
following reasons:
* bigger gas tank
* you can put a 33" spare in the factory spare tire carrier
* more headroom
* more stuff available
* A ford Exploder 8.8 rear is a drop in.
* cheaper.
As you know ZJs are great trail machines. They are the sleepers of the
4x4 world. You can ask me and Tom Le about that! The longer wheelbase
makes trails a little more work, but it also makes the vehicle more
stable -- and much more comfortable on long trips. Heck I drove mine to
Lake Tahoe, ran the Rubicon, and drove home in style!
What to look for when buying a ZJ.
* The best combination is the 4.0l, AW-4 transmission, and NP242
(SelecTrac) transfer case.
* ZJs with a manual transmissions are really rare.
* Earlier ZJs have the D35C rear axle which is better than the D44 with
the aluminum housing. So even though the D44 sounds cool, it really
isn't.
* V8 models have the full-time NP249 (QuadraTrac) transfer case and
CV-joints to reduce vibration in the drivetrain. The early NP249s
(1993-1995 years) don't lock and are expensive to fix. Sometimes you can
find a V8 with a NP242 or NP231. If you end up with a V8, the only
traction aiding devices that will work are air lockers. That new cable
operated locker might also work.
About modifying for the trail. ZJs take a little more thought in the
modification process than the CJ/YJ/TJs only because there isn't a lot of
aftermarket choices. After all, who in their right mind would build a ZJ
for extreme trails? ;-) The modifications I have made to mine were
carefully thought out before execution.
Lift kits: Go at least 4.5". You'll kick yourself for going with a lower
kit. A 4.5" will allow up to a 32" tire with minimal trimming. 33" and
larger requires a lot of trimming. Rubicon Express makes the best 4.5"
lift for ZJs. TeraFlex is a close second.
Nerf Bars: Since ZJs are unibody you want these to be as close to the
body as possible and don't use them as steps. There are several companies
that produce sliders for ZJs. Mine are American Metal -- an early
design which is now out of favor by most ZJ owners because they flex too
much. Tom Le made his own and they look pretty good.
R&Ps: I think you can now get 4.10 and 4.56s r&ps for all year ZJs with
the D35C rear axle. Nothing is availble for the D44 aluminum housing.
Bumpers: Several companies make bumpers for the ZJ. I like the ones
Hunter Offroad made for me.
Here is a web site that has a lot of links. Check out the dark blue AZ
ZJ.
http://www.aoco.com/
Here's the link to the zj-list. I have subscribed to this one for 3
years. There are a lot of knowledgeable folks on this list. I think
there's a WJ list out there too, but I don't know
http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/jeeplists.htm
Let me know if you hace anymore questions, or if you want to go for a
ride. I'll be happy to oblige
Linda
Daniel Weed wrote:
> As some of you know, we have his and hers TJs in our garage. We've
> finally concluded that two TJs isn't really practical, so we will
> probably be finding a new home for my wife's and replacing it with a
> Grand Cherokee.
>
> Of course, as soon as I have it, I'll be wanting new tires, wheels,
> lift, etc. etc. y'all know the symptoms of this disease...
>
> But I know nothing about modifying a ZJ, particluarily a 2000 model.
> The mods would be modest - serious Jeeping would be the domain of the
> TJ, but I'd like to be able to go places like Edwards Park or Dupont
> Cabin, Cherry creek and such. So I think I'm looking at perhaps a 2
> inch spacer lift, 31 inch tires max, give or take an inch or two ;-)
>
> So, can anyone give me some advice on what options to get (select
> track vs quadra track? The off road package?) and what mods I can do
> without getting extreme? Are their some good web sites out there? ZJ
> mailing lists?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Dan
> Revolvr@a...
> Humble and Addicted Moderator
12477 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 1:32pm
Subject: [Fwd: Jamboree Flier on the Web]
This is from Wendi Kawa, ASA4WDC Webmaster.
Linda
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 11:12:31 -0700
From: Wendi Kawa wendi@t...
To: asa-bod@a..., asa-clubs@a..., asa-delegates@a..., asa-members@a...
Subject: Jamboree Flier on the Web
I have put the flier and registration form for Jamboree 2000 on the
asa4wdc.org web site.
The URL is:
http://asa4wdc.org/events/index.html
If there are any problems with viewing or printing it, please let me
know so I can fix things.
Please pass the word on.
If you receive multiple copies if this email it is because you are on
more that one asa list. Sorry for the inconvenience but I wanted to get
this information out to as many folks as possible.
Thanks,
Wendi Kawa
12478 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 1:56pm
Subject: Balancing tires
Thought I pass along this little bit of technical info. It's good to
know.
The original question was "what does it take to balance 35" tires."
Linda
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 00:25:36 EDT
From: MdntRdr1@a...
Subject: Balancing tires
To: Offroad@o...
Since I have a little experience in tires, I'll share my knowledge.
One reason tires need to be rebalanced is tires slip on the wheel. Ever
wonder why on some tires there's a mark on the tire lined up with the
valve
stem? This will show how much the tire will move on the rim, beadlocks
will
solve this problem. Rebalancing after a month, good call. When tires
are
mounted on a wheel; grease, soap will be used around the bead for easier
seating. The tire will tend to slip with this stuff so give it time to
dry
up.
For all of you that have comments about ineptness by the tire shop when
it
comes to balancing, here's what I learned:
When it comes to big tires, shops will tend to get the tire balanced to
a 1/4
of an ounce and call it good. In my time, I always tried to "zero" out
the
balance; on big tires this can take awhile, (rebalanced the tires on my
truck
a few months ago and it took me about 30 minutes to do). I never saw
one
come back that left with a 1/4 ounce off balance. Also, when you take
the
tires in to be balanced, do you insist on the weights being only on the
inside? This is the wrong approach. Works good for small tires, but
not on
ours. Our tires need balanced on both sides.
Anything I miss?
Stan
12479 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 2:34pm
Subject: Sunday AM
The boss and I will be hitting Terminator tomorrow morning around 8:30am. I anyone wants to go, meet us at the entry to Terminator at 8:30. I am still trying to make Stu's run tonight.
Ross
84 CJ7
12480 From: Ralph Williams <ralph@p...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 4:37pm
Subject: Re: Modifying a late model ZJ???
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com
Look in the Grand Cherokee Forum, lots of good info there, lots
of helpful folks there too.
You can do a search for specific information you may want in the
messages. Look in the "old Grand Cherokee Forum also, the message
base got to be too big for their server so they had to archive it
and start fresh a few months ago.
Hope this helps,
Ralph Williams
Daniel Weed wrote:
>
> As some of you know, we have his and hers TJs in our garage. We've
> finally concluded that two TJs isn't really practical, so we will
> probably be finding a new home for my wife's and replacing it with a
> Grand Cherokee.
>
> Of course, as soon as I have it, I'll be wanting new tires, wheels,
> lift, etc. etc. y'all know the symptoms of this disease...
>
> But I know nothing about modifying a ZJ, particluarily a 2000 model.
> The mods would be modest - serious Jeeping would be the domain of the
> TJ, but I'd like to be able to go places like Edwards Park or Dupont
> Cabin, Cherry creek and such. So I think I'm looking at perhaps a 2
> inch spacer lift, 31 inch tires max, give or take an inch or two ;-)
>
> So, can anyone give me some advice on what options to get (select
> track vs quadra track? The off road package?) and what mods I can do
> without getting extreme? Are their some good web sites out there? ZJ
> mailing lists?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Dan
> Revolvr@a...
> Humble and Addicted Moderator
12481 From: <deslug@u...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 5:23pm
Subject: posi ID help
Well, I tore apart my entiore front axle only to find out I
have an issue. Not that surprising because whenever my
mongoloid YJ is involved, issues arise. 3 years ago I
swapped d44s into the yj, the rear is a 78 scout, and the
front is out of an 82 SJ. Now, I took what I THOUGHT was a
Track-Loc out of the rear axle, had it rebuilt, and put into
the front axle. I ordered clutches for a trac loc, and in
they went, I suppose. Today I attempted to install a
PowerTrax no-slip into the carrier of my front axle... No
worky. My "trac-loc" doesn't match the description given in
the instructions for the locker, nor does it match the
pictures in the Aug 2000 issue of Petersen's 4Wheel&Off-Road
"Trac-Lok" rebuild. The cross shaft in my Posi is retained
by two C-clips inboard of the spider gears. The case
pictured in my instructions and the magazine article has
shows the cross shaft being retained by a rollpin. Any one
know what I have? I'd like to be able to use this carrier,
as I do not have the ability to set up gears on my D44. The
shims for this axle are installed before the bearings are
pressed on, I don't have a press. Thanks. MIKE
12482 From: Steve Corbett <scorbphx@h...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 5:33am
Subject: Re: Balancing tires
i GET MY 35'S BALANCED ON THE INSIDE WITH STICK ON WEIGHTS AT DISCOUNT
TIRE BELL & CAVE CREEK AND THEY GET THE TIRE BALANCED JUST FINE. I WAS
LOSING WHEEL WEIGHTS MOUNTED ON THE OUTSIDE
STEVE
LindaL wrote:
>
> Thought I pass along this little bit of technical info. It's good to
> know.
>
> The original question was "what does it take to balance 35" tires."
>
> Linda
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 00:25:36 EDT
> From: MdntRdr1@a...
> Subject: Balancing tires
> To: Offroad@o...
>
> Since I have a little experience in tires, I'll share my knowledge.
>
> One reason tires need to be rebalanced is tires slip on the wheel. Ever
>
> wonder why on some tires there's a mark on the tire lined up with the
> valve
> stem? This will show how much the tire will move on the rim, beadlocks
> will
> solve this problem. Rebalancing after a month, good call. When tires
> are
> mounted on a wheel; grease, soap will be used around the bead for easier
>
> seating. The tire will tend to slip with this stuff so give it time to
> dry
> up.
>
> For all of you that have comments about ineptness by the tire shop when
> it
> comes to balancing, here's what I learned:
> When it comes to big tires, shops will tend to get the tire balanced to
> a 1/4
> of an ounce and call it good. In my time, I always tried to "zero" out
> the
> balance; on big tires this can take awhile, (rebalanced the tires on my
> truck
> a few months ago and it took me about 30 minutes to do). I never saw
> one
> come back that left with a 1/4 ounce off balance. Also, when you take
> the
> tires in to be balanced, do you insist on the weights being only on the
> inside? This is the wrong approach. Works good for small tires, but
> not on
> ours. Our tires need balanced on both sides.
>
> Anything I miss?
>
> Stan
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12483 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 10:24am
Subject: Night run with Stu
Thanks Stu for leading the run last night. It was beautiful out there last night. You are the master with the GPS. I would never remeber all of those little trails to get out.
Your Jeep was doing really well up some of those hills. Thanks again.
Ross and Deb
12484 From: Larry <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 11:18am
Subject: Re: Night run with Stu
Ross,
Thanks for coming out and making the rest of our Jeeps look like lowriders. Excuse the language but your CJ is BAD ***!
I was most impressed with the quality of outboarded spring hangers.... very nice work!
Stu,
Thanks for leading another fun run.
Regards,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner
To: AZVJC (E-mail)
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 10:24 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Night run with Stu
Thanks Stu for leading the run last night. It was beautiful out there last night. You are the master with the GPS. I would never remeber all of those little trails to get out.
Your Jeep was doing really well up some of those hills. Thanks again.
Ross and Deb
12485 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 0:21pm
Subject: RE: Night run with Stu
We still have a bit more trimming to do. The carb is a pain, but its a Jeep.;-) Actually, after the trailer I am hot after a Howell injection setup. We have a couple skid plates to put on diffs and on the gas tank.
Can one of the O-R Fab guys send me an email. I need to get my roll bar in, the angles and dangles are getting more and more interesting...
Thanks again Stu
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@uswest.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 11:02 AM
To: Ross Skinner
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Night run with Stu
Ross,
I am so glad you and Deb could make last night's run. It was nice to see you two again (and Brian). It had been WAY to long since the Crown King run! Here are some pics I took. Your CJ turned out pretty good.
For what it is worth, it look like you might have a clearance problem on the passenger front tire when it is stuffing hard. One of the pics gives this impression anyway.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=444107&a=8635006&p=28071577
Later.......Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s2bsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 10:25 AM
To: AZVJC (E-mail)
Subject: [az_vjc] Night run with Stu
Thanks Stu for leading the run last night. It was beautiful out there last night. You are the master with the GPS. I would never remeber all of those little trails to get out.
Your Jeep was doing really well up some of those hills. Thanks again.
Ross and Deb
12486 From: Chris <cmandrick@v...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 1:46pm
Subject: YJ front driveshaft help
I am sure everyone has a few of my emails in the deleted box, but here is
another one. Putting an NP435 and NP208 in my 87 YJ (4.2) and going SOA
raises a few problems. I am going to need driveshafts, my father is buying
me a rear one from Gloeco (late birthday present) which leaves the fron to
be addressed. Am I going to need a longer front shaft? If so, is it
possible to lengthen my existing driveshaft? For now a lengthened front or
a home made shaft will work, as I will replace it with a CV shaft when new
axles go in. Anyone have an NP435 in a YJ that can give me some
pointers???
Chris
87 YJ
12487 From: Nosmo King <ice626@h...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 8:16pm
Subject: Welding Job and Sticker Spotter
Hi all....I was resting under my CJ this morning and couldn't believe
what I saw......a crack in the frame under the passenger
side....sooooo....I was wondering if there was anyone in the east
valley that has a big enough welder to weld a plate to the frame for
me and wants to make a few bux.....I finally got my TC probs worked
out so I'm finally ready to go....except for that damned crack....let
me know via email or I can be reached tomorrow at 480.722.4542 or
pager 602.450.4209.....thanx in advance....
also spotted a club sticker on a blue (maybe black) tj this afternoon
at University and Lindsay.....whoever you are....nice rig....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5
12463 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Fri Sep 8, 2000 11:48pm
Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
Find a 7 blade fixed fan that fits your motor, arrange it so that 3/4" of
the blades stick outside the shroud...
IMHO you are on the right track
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
To: "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
> What are the pros and cons of running a fixed engine driven fan vs the
stock
> fan/clutch arrangement? I'm not as concerned about possible horsepower
loss
> (if there is any) of the fixed fan. I'm looking for cooling efficiency.
> If fixed fan is the way to go, anyone have any recommendations for a good
> fan?
>
> ChrisK
> 97 TJ
>
>
>
>
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12464 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 0:10am
Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
I agree with every thing Jay has said, but personally, I don't subscribe or
agree with the "clutch" fan mentality. Get rid of the clutch, and the
flexible blades. Quit quibbling over the chump change horsepower loss. 7
blade fixed will not strand you, it takes up less room, and it will cool you
when your buddies clutch fan gives up the ghost.
Personally, I run an Electric puller now. With a 1966 340 Buick motor,
10.25:1 compression. As long as I keep the 100 Low Lead in it, I have no
problems. Pump gas is really not an option for this motor, although in
winter I have run it. When I go to the 460 Ford, I'll run a fixed 7 blade,
and a pusher fan.
I also service my cooling system twice a year, summer time, I use
distilled water and "water wetter" or equivalent. Winter, I use distilled
water and 50-50 Ethylene Glycol mix. When I drain and switch, I backflush
the block and the radiator. So far, It's treated me right.
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
Cc: "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
> Boy....this one has been covered a lot, but is always good for some more
go
> rounds. The general consensus seems to be a stock 7 blade fan and thermal
> clutch type of fan is far superior to a fixed flex style of fan. So.....I
guess
> that about sums it up. Electrics are good at low speeds, but are less
reliable,
> draw lots of current, and work poorly at higher vehicle speeds (assuming
they
> are used in conjunction with a custom fan shroud. Fixed with fan clutch
appears
> to be the collectives cooling of choice.
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> President
> Toybox Off-Road
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
> Chris Krieg wrote:
>
> > What are the pros and cons of running a fixed engine driven fan vs the
stock
> > fan/clutch arrangement? I'm not as concerned about possible horsepower
loss
> > (if there is any) of the fixed fan. I'm looking for cooling efficiency.
> > If fixed fan is the way to go, anyone have any recommendations for a
good
> > fan?
> >
> > ChrisK
> > 97 TJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
12465 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 5:23am
Subject: Re: 4x4 wannabes -- this is cute.
I particularly liked the Kenworth SUV. Where can I get wanna does??
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Mish" <yldkat55@h...>
To: <minihummer@w...>; <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] 4x4 wannabes -- this is cute.
> Hilarious!! What a riot! My lil' Suv is gaining weight soon. I'm planning
a
> custom frame, stretching the Yldkat to 93" wheelbase, Ford 460, C-6, NP
205,
> D60 front and rear. Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore! The Scout
> 80 project is getting scrapped to do this. Hey, sometimes you have to spin
> your wheels to get up the hill..... Still plan on ARB's, but the gear
ratio
> will drop to 5.13:1 ( max allowable by the D60 rev. rotation). If all goes
> well, I wont miss any Jeeping except when the body is transferred from one
> chassis to the other, Which I predict will happen around summer next
> year..... Unless I come into a large sum of money between now and then. I
> probably wont sell anything off until after it is completely built.
>
> Bill Mish
> Yldkat
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> http://drive.to/yldkat55
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LindaL" <minihummer@w...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:02 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] 4x4 wannabes -- this is cute.
>
>
> > Check this out. Especially the Poser sightings.
> >
> > http://poseur.4x4.org/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
12466 From: Rick Hall <rnhall@a...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 6:08am
Subject: Locker Thoughts
I finally got to take the Jeep out for an extended run (Edwards Park) to really get the feel for the new PowerTrax. They performed as expected but I have an observation-
The Good Thing about the lockers is: Before with open diffs I had to carefully pick my lines and concentrate on maintaining enough power to propel me through obstacles or up hills without damaging my ride. Not anymore.
The Bad Thing about lockers is: Before with open diffs I had to carefully pick my lines and concentrate on maintaining enough power to propel me through obstacles or up hills without damaging my ride. Not anymore.
Don't get me wrong I like the lockers (I am not a rockcrawler unless they are in the way of where I am going) but I kinda miss the excitement that even a mild run could bring with open diffs. I know there are bigger obstacles that I couldn't even attempt before but.....
Rick
12467 From: <dunk95@h...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 7:21am
Subject: Wanted: YJ Springs
Yes it me againg wanting things, Does any one have stock YJ leaf
springs for sale? Mine have a real bad negative arch now.
12468 From: Bob Nyberg <r.nyberg@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 7:37am
Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
Bill is correct IMO. I run a fixed 7 blade set up with factory shroud like this
on a 304 and have never had a cooling problem.
Bob
William Mish wrote:
> Find a 7 blade fixed fan that fits your motor, arrange it so that 3/4" of
> the blades stick outside the shroud...
> IMHO you are on the right track
> Bill Mish
> Yldkat
> 1955 Willys CJ3B
> http://drive.to/yldkat55
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
> To: "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 7:08 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
>
> > What are the pros and cons of running a fixed engine driven fan vs the
> stock
> > fan/clutch arrangement? I'm not as concerned about possible horsepower
> loss
> > (if there is any) of the fixed fan. I'm looking for cooling efficiency.
> > If fixed fan is the way to go, anyone have any recommendations for a good
> > fan?
> >
> > ChrisK
> > 97 TJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
12469 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 8:07am
Subject: Re: steering box removal
A 3/4 drive socket set. Harbor freight $35.00
----- Original Message -----
From: "LindaL" <minihummer@w...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>; "xj_az" <arizonaXJ@egroups.com>; "zj-list"
<zj-list@m...>
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 9:13 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] steering box removal
> Anyone have any handy hints for breaking free a pitman arm nut that's
> torqued on at 185 ft-lbs?
> Linda
>
>
>
>
12470 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 9:23am
Subject: VJC sighting
So who here is the other AZVJC San Tan soccer parent that drives the green
TJ with the black top that I gave my parking spot to this morning? I was in
the Blue TJ.
ChrisK
12471 From: <flatfenderman@a...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 5:44am
Subject: The power of the mouse...
Early last week I posted the address to my web site on the AZVJC e-group so
that I could welcome a friend to the group. Over the next two days my site
had nearly 300 hits! For the three days after that there was only 30, wow. I
am impressed with the power this group must be able to exercise on local
business', such as the resent discussion of a Jeep Dealer and the possibility
of a group rate on Flatbed trailers. Its great to be a part of this group!!
Chris
Lewis
www.azrocks.alloffroad.com
12472 From: Daniel Weed <revolvr@a...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 10:06am
Subject: Modifying a late model ZJ???
As some of you know, we have his and hers TJs in our garage. We've
finally concluded that two TJs isn't really practical, so we will
probably be finding a new home for my wife's and replacing it with a
Grand Cherokee.
Of course, as soon as I have it, I'll be wanting new tires, wheels,
lift, etc. etc. y'all know the symptoms of this disease...
But I know nothing about modifying a ZJ, particluarily a 2000 model.
The mods would be modest - serious Jeeping would be the domain of the
TJ, but I'd like to be able to go places like Edwards Park or Dupont
Cabin, Cherry creek and such. So I think I'm looking at perhaps a 2
inch spacer lift, 31 inch tires max, give or take an inch or two ;-)
So, can anyone give me some advice on what options to get (select
track vs quadra track? The off road package?) and what mods I can do
without getting extreme? Are their some good web sites out there? ZJ
mailing lists?
Thanks!
-- Dan
Revolvr@a...
Humble and Addicted Moderator
12473 From: <a74cj6@a...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 6:11am
Subject: help, anyone done a mechanical to hydraulic clutch conversion??
After doing (attempting) Terminator I've decided to finally upgrade the
mechanical clutch linkage on my '74 cj-6. I looked around and found Advance
Adapters had a list of parts needed for the conversion to hydraulic. So, I
ordered the parts and as usual, it isn't working out like it does on paper.
First, the hose from the slave to the master cylider has an extra 15 inches
of bent tubing on the slave end, which puts the end of the hose 15 inches
away from where the slave cylinder will be. The fix, disregard everyone's
selection of the part number and buy AA's steel braided 40" hose that leaves
off all of the bent tubing.
Second, and actually most important, the piston on the master cylinder is 4"
long, but the pedal mount is 6" away from the firewall. AA said the pedal
mount will work for both because the pedal assembly didn't change with the
factory switch from mech. to hyd. AA did say firewall modifications would be
needed but the tech said that was drilling it for the master cylinder (which
I can handle). What he didn't say was that I would have to remove that
section of the firewall and move it into the cab a couple inches (which I
don't really want to do, even if I thought I could and keep it structurally
sound).
So the million dollar (or two cent, depends on how you look at it) question
is, has anyone done, or know someone who has done this conversion and can let
me know what actually needs to be done to make the master cylinder fit. AA
is closed today but I verified part numbers with them half a dozen times
before so it's either wrong on their end, or on my end by me not realizing
how to make a 4" piston 6" long. I've never done anything from AA before
and I'm realizing they're very specific on part numbers, but very vague in
the 'what to do with them' department. On paper this conversion is a no
brainer but when the pieces don't fit, I'd rather not have my vehicle's
clutch system relying on my creative thinking (or lack of).
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Devon
1974 CJ-6
a74cj6@a...
www.5pillars.com/ucan2
www.homestead.com/a74cj6
12474 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 11:31am
Subject: Re: Modifying a late model ZJ???
Personally if I was doing it I would get the full quadra drive package
complete with the hydadrive axles. This would make it great on winter
roads when heading to sking. Also with the F&R limited slips you should
be pretty good off road.
Daniel Weed wrote:
>
> As some of you know, we have his and hers TJs in our garage. We've
> finally concluded that two TJs isn't really practical, so we will
> probably be finding a new home for my wife's and replacing it with a
> Grand Cherokee.
>
> Of course, as soon as I have it, I'll be wanting new tires, wheels,
> lift, etc. etc. y'all know the symptoms of this disease...
>
> But I know nothing about modifying a ZJ, particluarily a 2000 model.
> The mods would be modest - serious Jeeping would be the domain of the
> TJ, but I'd like to be able to go places like Edwards Park or Dupont
> Cabin, Cherry creek and such. So I think I'm looking at perhaps a 2
> inch spacer lift, 31 inch tires max, give or take an inch or two ;-)
>
> So, can anyone give me some advice on what options to get (select
> track vs quadra track? The off road package?) and what mods I can do
> without getting extreme? Are their some good web sites out there? ZJ
> mailing lists?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Dan
> Revolvr@a...
> Humble and Addicted Moderator
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
12475 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 11:57am
Subject: Re: Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
It's no problem repeating things with me. We get new members all of the time who
may not have heard it. AND.....I tend to ask the same question within 6 months
because I always seem to forget what the answers where! ;-) No problems here with
repeating answers!!
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller
President
Toybox Off-Road
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
Chris Krieg wrote:
> Thanks Jay. Sorry if this has subject was done before. I'm just getting
> frustrated by my stupid cooling system.
>
> Chris
>
> > From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
> > Date: Fri, 08 Sep 2000 21:01:32 -0700
> > Cc: Virtual Jeep Club <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Pros and Cons of fixed vs clutch fans?
> >
> > Boy....this one has been covered a lot, but is always good for some more go
> > rounds. The general consensus seems to be a stock 7 blade fan and thermal
> > clutch type of fan is far superior to a fixed flex style of fan. So.....I
> > guess
> > that about sums it up. Electrics are good at low speeds, but are less
> > reliable,
> > draw lots of current, and work poorly at higher vehicle speeds (assuming they
> > are used in conjunction with a custom fan shroud. Fixed with fan clutch
> > appears
> > to be the collectives cooling of choice.
> > --
12476 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 1:15pm
Subject: Re: Modifying a late model ZJ???
Though the new WJs are nice, the older ZJ is, IMHO, a better 4x4 for the
following reasons:
* bigger gas tank
* you can put a 33" spare in the factory spare tire carrier
* more headroom
* more stuff available
* A ford Exploder 8.8 rear is a drop in.
* cheaper.
As you know ZJs are great trail machines. They are the sleepers of the
4x4 world. You can ask me and Tom Le about that! The longer wheelbase
makes trails a little more work, but it also makes the vehicle more
stable -- and much more comfortable on long trips. Heck I drove mine to
Lake Tahoe, ran the Rubicon, and drove home in style!
What to look for when buying a ZJ.
* The best combination is the 4.0l, AW-4 transmission, and NP242
(SelecTrac) transfer case.
* ZJs with a manual transmissions are really rare.
* Earlier ZJs have the D35C rear axle which is better than the D44 with
the aluminum housing. So even though the D44 sounds cool, it really
isn't.
* V8 models have the full-time NP249 (QuadraTrac) transfer case and
CV-joints to reduce vibration in the drivetrain. The early NP249s
(1993-1995 years) don't lock and are expensive to fix. Sometimes you can
find a V8 with a NP242 or NP231. If you end up with a V8, the only
traction aiding devices that will work are air lockers. That new cable
operated locker might also work.
About modifying for the trail. ZJs take a little more thought in the
modification process than the CJ/YJ/TJs only because there isn't a lot of
aftermarket choices. After all, who in their right mind would build a ZJ
for extreme trails? ;-) The modifications I have made to mine were
carefully thought out before execution.
Lift kits: Go at least 4.5". You'll kick yourself for going with a lower
kit. A 4.5" will allow up to a 32" tire with minimal trimming. 33" and
larger requires a lot of trimming. Rubicon Express makes the best 4.5"
lift for ZJs. TeraFlex is a close second.
Nerf Bars: Since ZJs are unibody you want these to be as close to the
body as possible and don't use them as steps. There are several companies
that produce sliders for ZJs. Mine are American Metal -- an early
design which is now out of favor by most ZJ owners because they flex too
much. Tom Le made his own and they look pretty good.
R&Ps: I think you can now get 4.10 and 4.56s r&ps for all year ZJs with
the D35C rear axle. Nothing is availble for the D44 aluminum housing.
Bumpers: Several companies make bumpers for the ZJ. I like the ones
Hunter Offroad made for me.
Here is a web site that has a lot of links. Check out the dark blue AZ
ZJ.
http://www.aoco.com/
Here's the link to the zj-list. I have subscribed to this one for 3
years. There are a lot of knowledgeable folks on this list. I think
there's a WJ list out there too, but I don't know
http://www.off-road.com/4x4web/jeep/jeeplists.htm
Let me know if you hace anymore questions, or if you want to go for a
ride. I'll be happy to oblige
Linda
Daniel Weed wrote:
> As some of you know, we have his and hers TJs in our garage. We've
> finally concluded that two TJs isn't really practical, so we will
> probably be finding a new home for my wife's and replacing it with a
> Grand Cherokee.
>
> Of course, as soon as I have it, I'll be wanting new tires, wheels,
> lift, etc. etc. y'all know the symptoms of this disease...
>
> But I know nothing about modifying a ZJ, particluarily a 2000 model.
> The mods would be modest - serious Jeeping would be the domain of the
> TJ, but I'd like to be able to go places like Edwards Park or Dupont
> Cabin, Cherry creek and such. So I think I'm looking at perhaps a 2
> inch spacer lift, 31 inch tires max, give or take an inch or two ;-)
>
> So, can anyone give me some advice on what options to get (select
> track vs quadra track? The off road package?) and what mods I can do
> without getting extreme? Are their some good web sites out there? ZJ
> mailing lists?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Dan
> Revolvr@a...
> Humble and Addicted Moderator
12477 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 1:32pm
Subject: [Fwd: Jamboree Flier on the Web]
This is from Wendi Kawa, ASA4WDC Webmaster.
Linda
Date: Sat, 09 Sep 2000 11:12:31 -0700
From: Wendi Kawa wendi@t...
To: asa-bod@a..., asa-clubs@a..., asa-delegates@a..., asa-members@a...
Subject: Jamboree Flier on the Web
I have put the flier and registration form for Jamboree 2000 on the
asa4wdc.org web site.
The URL is:
http://asa4wdc.org/events/index.html
If there are any problems with viewing or printing it, please let me
know so I can fix things.
Please pass the word on.
If you receive multiple copies if this email it is because you are on
more that one asa list. Sorry for the inconvenience but I wanted to get
this information out to as many folks as possible.
Thanks,
Wendi Kawa
12478 From: LindaL <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 1:56pm
Subject: Balancing tires
Thought I pass along this little bit of technical info. It's good to
know.
The original question was "what does it take to balance 35" tires."
Linda
------------------------------
Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 00:25:36 EDT
From: MdntRdr1@a...
Subject: Balancing tires
To: Offroad@o...
Since I have a little experience in tires, I'll share my knowledge.
One reason tires need to be rebalanced is tires slip on the wheel. Ever
wonder why on some tires there's a mark on the tire lined up with the
valve
stem? This will show how much the tire will move on the rim, beadlocks
will
solve this problem. Rebalancing after a month, good call. When tires
are
mounted on a wheel; grease, soap will be used around the bead for easier
seating. The tire will tend to slip with this stuff so give it time to
dry
up.
For all of you that have comments about ineptness by the tire shop when
it
comes to balancing, here's what I learned:
When it comes to big tires, shops will tend to get the tire balanced to
a 1/4
of an ounce and call it good. In my time, I always tried to "zero" out
the
balance; on big tires this can take awhile, (rebalanced the tires on my
truck
a few months ago and it took me about 30 minutes to do). I never saw
one
come back that left with a 1/4 ounce off balance. Also, when you take
the
tires in to be balanced, do you insist on the weights being only on the
inside? This is the wrong approach. Works good for small tires, but
not on
ours. Our tires need balanced on both sides.
Anything I miss?
Stan
12479 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 2:34pm
Subject: Sunday AM
The boss and I will be hitting Terminator tomorrow morning around 8:30am. I anyone wants to go, meet us at the entry to Terminator at 8:30. I am still trying to make Stu's run tonight.
Ross
84 CJ7
12480 From: Ralph Williams <ralph@p...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 4:37pm
Subject: Re: Modifying a late model ZJ???
http://www.jeepsunlimited.com
Look in the Grand Cherokee Forum, lots of good info there, lots
of helpful folks there too.
You can do a search for specific information you may want in the
messages. Look in the "old Grand Cherokee Forum also, the message
base got to be too big for their server so they had to archive it
and start fresh a few months ago.
Hope this helps,
Ralph Williams
Daniel Weed wrote:
>
> As some of you know, we have his and hers TJs in our garage. We've
> finally concluded that two TJs isn't really practical, so we will
> probably be finding a new home for my wife's and replacing it with a
> Grand Cherokee.
>
> Of course, as soon as I have it, I'll be wanting new tires, wheels,
> lift, etc. etc. y'all know the symptoms of this disease...
>
> But I know nothing about modifying a ZJ, particluarily a 2000 model.
> The mods would be modest - serious Jeeping would be the domain of the
> TJ, but I'd like to be able to go places like Edwards Park or Dupont
> Cabin, Cherry creek and such. So I think I'm looking at perhaps a 2
> inch spacer lift, 31 inch tires max, give or take an inch or two ;-)
>
> So, can anyone give me some advice on what options to get (select
> track vs quadra track? The off road package?) and what mods I can do
> without getting extreme? Are their some good web sites out there? ZJ
> mailing lists?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Dan
> Revolvr@a...
> Humble and Addicted Moderator
12481 From: <deslug@u...>
Date: Sat Sep 9, 2000 5:23pm
Subject: posi ID help
Well, I tore apart my entiore front axle only to find out I
have an issue. Not that surprising because whenever my
mongoloid YJ is involved, issues arise. 3 years ago I
swapped d44s into the yj, the rear is a 78 scout, and the
front is out of an 82 SJ. Now, I took what I THOUGHT was a
Track-Loc out of the rear axle, had it rebuilt, and put into
the front axle. I ordered clutches for a trac loc, and in
they went, I suppose. Today I attempted to install a
PowerTrax no-slip into the carrier of my front axle... No
worky. My "trac-loc" doesn't match the description given in
the instructions for the locker, nor does it match the
pictures in the Aug 2000 issue of Petersen's 4Wheel&Off-Road
"Trac-Lok" rebuild. The cross shaft in my Posi is retained
by two C-clips inboard of the spider gears. The case
pictured in my instructions and the magazine article has
shows the cross shaft being retained by a rollpin. Any one
know what I have? I'd like to be able to use this carrier,
as I do not have the ability to set up gears on my D44. The
shims for this axle are installed before the bearings are
pressed on, I don't have a press. Thanks. MIKE
12482 From: Steve Corbett <scorbphx@h...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 5:33am
Subject: Re: Balancing tires
i GET MY 35'S BALANCED ON THE INSIDE WITH STICK ON WEIGHTS AT DISCOUNT
TIRE BELL & CAVE CREEK AND THEY GET THE TIRE BALANCED JUST FINE. I WAS
LOSING WHEEL WEIGHTS MOUNTED ON THE OUTSIDE
STEVE
LindaL wrote:
>
> Thought I pass along this little bit of technical info. It's good to
> know.
>
> The original question was "what does it take to balance 35" tires."
>
> Linda
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 9 Sep 2000 00:25:36 EDT
> From: MdntRdr1@a...
> Subject: Balancing tires
> To: Offroad@o...
>
> Since I have a little experience in tires, I'll share my knowledge.
>
> One reason tires need to be rebalanced is tires slip on the wheel. Ever
>
> wonder why on some tires there's a mark on the tire lined up with the
> valve
> stem? This will show how much the tire will move on the rim, beadlocks
> will
> solve this problem. Rebalancing after a month, good call. When tires
> are
> mounted on a wheel; grease, soap will be used around the bead for easier
>
> seating. The tire will tend to slip with this stuff so give it time to
> dry
> up.
>
> For all of you that have comments about ineptness by the tire shop when
> it
> comes to balancing, here's what I learned:
> When it comes to big tires, shops will tend to get the tire balanced to
> a 1/4
> of an ounce and call it good. In my time, I always tried to "zero" out
> the
> balance; on big tires this can take awhile, (rebalanced the tires on my
> truck
> a few months ago and it took me about 30 minutes to do). I never saw
> one
> come back that left with a 1/4 ounce off balance. Also, when you take
> the
> tires in to be balanced, do you insist on the weights being only on the
> inside? This is the wrong approach. Works good for small tires, but
> not on
> ours. Our tires need balanced on both sides.
>
> Anything I miss?
>
> Stan
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12483 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 10:24am
Subject: Night run with Stu
Thanks Stu for leading the run last night. It was beautiful out there last night. You are the master with the GPS. I would never remeber all of those little trails to get out.
Your Jeep was doing really well up some of those hills. Thanks again.
Ross and Deb
12484 From: Larry <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 11:18am
Subject: Re: Night run with Stu
Ross,
Thanks for coming out and making the rest of our Jeeps look like lowriders. Excuse the language but your CJ is BAD ***!
I was most impressed with the quality of outboarded spring hangers.... very nice work!
Stu,
Thanks for leading another fun run.
Regards,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner
To: AZVJC (E-mail)
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 10:24 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Night run with Stu
Thanks Stu for leading the run last night. It was beautiful out there last night. You are the master with the GPS. I would never remeber all of those little trails to get out.
Your Jeep was doing really well up some of those hills. Thanks again.
Ross and Deb
12485 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 0:21pm
Subject: RE: Night run with Stu
We still have a bit more trimming to do. The carb is a pain, but its a Jeep.;-) Actually, after the trailer I am hot after a Howell injection setup. We have a couple skid plates to put on diffs and on the gas tank.
Can one of the O-R Fab guys send me an email. I need to get my roll bar in, the angles and dangles are getting more and more interesting...
Thanks again Stu
Ross
-----Original Message-----
From: Stu Olson [mailto:solson8@uswest.net]
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 11:02 AM
To: Ross Skinner
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Night run with Stu
Ross,
I am so glad you and Deb could make last night's run. It was nice to see you two again (and Brian). It had been WAY to long since the Crown King run! Here are some pics I took. Your CJ turned out pretty good.
For what it is worth, it look like you might have a clearance problem on the passenger front tire when it is stuffing hard. One of the pics gives this impression anyway.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=444107&a=8635006&p=28071577
Later.......Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Skinner [mailto:rskinner@s2bsi.com]
Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2000 10:25 AM
To: AZVJC (E-mail)
Subject: [az_vjc] Night run with Stu
Thanks Stu for leading the run last night. It was beautiful out there last night. You are the master with the GPS. I would never remeber all of those little trails to get out.
Your Jeep was doing really well up some of those hills. Thanks again.
Ross and Deb
12486 From: Chris <cmandrick@v...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 1:46pm
Subject: YJ front driveshaft help
I am sure everyone has a few of my emails in the deleted box, but here is
another one. Putting an NP435 and NP208 in my 87 YJ (4.2) and going SOA
raises a few problems. I am going to need driveshafts, my father is buying
me a rear one from Gloeco (late birthday present) which leaves the fron to
be addressed. Am I going to need a longer front shaft? If so, is it
possible to lengthen my existing driveshaft? For now a lengthened front or
a home made shaft will work, as I will replace it with a CV shaft when new
axles go in. Anyone have an NP435 in a YJ that can give me some
pointers???
Chris
87 YJ
12487 From: Nosmo King <ice626@h...>
Date: Sun Sep 10, 2000 8:16pm
Subject: Welding Job and Sticker Spotter
Hi all....I was resting under my CJ this morning and couldn't believe
what I saw......a crack in the frame under the passenger
side....sooooo....I was wondering if there was anyone in the east
valley that has a big enough welder to weld a plate to the frame for
me and wants to make a few bux.....I finally got my TC probs worked
out so I'm finally ready to go....except for that damned crack....let
me know via email or I can be reached tomorrow at 480.722.4542 or
pager 602.450.4209.....thanx in advance....
also spotted a club sticker on a blue (maybe black) tj this afternoon
at University and Lindsay.....whoever you are....nice rig....
TJ Gill
75 CJ5