Different types of wheelin'

[KingGlamis]

This may have been discussed before, but I didn't find anything in the Search. My question is, do the people here do different types of rides?

For example, most of the pics I see posted are some fairly challenging trails. Some even pretty gnarly. But what about those of us with our first Jeep that is also a daily driver? I'm not sure I want to jump right into rock crawling and chance breaking my daily driver. Maybe later on once I get another vehicle to drive to work it would be OK, but for now I just want to do medium difficulty trail rides, preferably with no huge boulders waiting to take out my axles or drive shafts. You hard core guys, try to resist calling me a wussy. :D I love pushing the limit, but I do have to drive my Jeep to work on Monday.

Aside from trail and rock wheelin', how many of you take your Jeeps to the sand dunes or like to go mud boggin'? I was practically born in the sand, hence the screen name I have. But I have never done any "real" mud bogging. Do any of you enjoy the sand or mud?

And lastly, do any of you like big hill climbs? I think that would be a blast. I've done it on quads and dirt bikes, I would think a Jeep with lockers could climb some serious hills. I'm not talking 20 foot high little mounds, I mean 200-800ft. +++ tall hills that have limited traction. You know, so it is a big challenge to get to the top. That, to me, would be a major rush.

Anyway, just wanted to get some input from everyone on the different types of wheelin' you do.

Doug

[Griswold]

My rig is a daily driver that likes the big rocks, but I like to do scenic runs as well. As for mud boggin, I do not have the horsepower for that. Throwing a sixty foot mud rooster would be a great time but winchin my heavy square box through the slop is not as appealing. It could be that I am just a little sissy but I also have little desire to be in a situation (hill climb) where I could roll thirty times before my lifeless body flops to a stop. If I had a 600 horsepower rollcage then my answers would probably be different. ;)

[Antman]

Try the Cinder Hills OHV area up by Flagstaff.



Bring horsepower!


:eek:

[Chief Travis]

We were at Glamis 2 weekends ago. I got my 03 grand to the top of oldsmobile hill, it was awsome. During the summer we do trips to the cinders outside of flagstaff. There are some big hill climbs and bowls to run in there.

As far as local trails it seems the hard core guys do their runs on saturdays and allot of others, me included seem to do a little more mild stuff on sundays. Watch for the sunday runs or give me a call (480-200-8091) on friday and see what we are up to. My buddy (76 Bronco) and I usually do something on sunday that wont break my wifes daily driver (03 grand)

Travis Costello
AutoBody Innovations
480-844-1133

[BobnJeep]

I been thinking about this for awhile now. I have two rigs, and money for none. I recently found a place up here in Prescott off Iron Springs headed towards Skull Valley called "Alto Offroad Park". It has 2 of the 3 wheeling options. Mud holes and rocks. The death roll mentioned before has no appeal to me either. I love the mud without the HP! There is something about having it full throttle, and barely getting out. The first time I tried it, I took my cleaning girl. BTW, anyone know where I can get a new "wolly chit bar" for the dash? We did a lot of off-camber stuff, and I hit that hole like I knew I wasn't going to get throught it, and I almost didn't. Then we went to wash the TJ.
I been thinking that my Waggy is going to be more of a mud set up than a Rock Crawler. It will have approx a 6" lift and a 360 with a Road Demon 4 Barrel Carb, which doesn't work as well for off camber finess. No offense to those of you who use that set up for Crawling, I just feel the Older Waggies are too bulky for goin through those tight situations.

[nate]

I have been to glamis a few times also. How do you like Comp. hill??? I get scared looking at it. I just stick to the washes and such, I value my life. But back home in CA I did alot of hill climbing. I have found a few good mud holes and with lack of better judgement taken them on. Haven't gottin stuck yet but I will soon. Both my axles are open diff so I get alot of wheel spin which in good in the mud to clear the tires and helps me with my lack of Horse power (stock 4.0L). The other day was my first time rock crawlin for real. It was short but alot of fun. I found out I need to replace a motor mount before I continue to do anything else. Its a daily driver but that is optional, I could always ride my bike!

Let me know and I could give directions to this mub hole if you want.

[DsrtJeeper]

I been thinking about this for awhile now. I have two rigs, and money for none. I recently found a place up here in Prescott off Iron Springs headed towards Skull Valley called "Alto Offroad Park". It has 2 of the 3 wheeling options. Mud holes and rocks. The death roll mentioned before has no appeal to me either. I love the mud without the HP! There is something about having it full throttle, and barely getting out. The first time I tried it, I took my cleaning girl. BTW, anyone know where I can get a new "wolly chit bar" for the dash? We did a lot of off-camber stuff, and I hit that hole like I knew I wasn't going to get throught it, and I almost didn't. Then we went to wash the TJ.
I been thinking that my Waggy is going to be more of a mud set up than a Rock Crawler. It will have approx a 6" lift and a 360 with a Road Demon 4 Barrel Carb, which doesn't work as well for off camber finess. No offense to those of you who use that set up for Crawling, I just feel the Older Waggies are too bulky for goin through those tight situations.

Bob;
We call the area the "Alto Pits." MX races are held there by Whiplash Racing. It's nice to cruise up there in the summer for some cooler riding.

[DsrtJeeper]

I have been to glamis a few times also. How do you like Comp. hill??? I get scared looking at it. I just stick to the washes and such, I value my life. But back home in CA I did alot of hill climbing. I have found a few good mud holes and with lack of better judgement taken them on. Haven't gottin stuck yet but I will soon. Both my axles are open diff so I get alot of wheel spin which in good in the mud to clear the tires and helps me with my lack of Horse power (stock 4.0L). The other day was my first time rock crawlin for real. It was short but alot of fun. I found out I need to replace a motor mount before I continue to do anything else. Its a daily driver but that is optional, I could always ride my bike!

Let me know and I could give directions to this mub hole if you want.

If you think Comp Hill is bad; you need to take a trip out to Sand Mtn; Nevada. It's literally a 700' razorback! A buddy and I took our drag quads out there one year and it was crazy! Picture a quad with a turbocharged Suzuki GSXR engine wedged in it with only one rear brake. While doing 95 mph up this hill; you need to be able to stop before the top! Yeeeeeeeeeha! :D

[danno]

Doug,

There is also another spot where members of Arizona Virtual Jeep Club post potential trail runs. Check out www.azvjc.org and click on the Trips link on the right side. This is the original BBS for the club and probably the place where most of the trips are posted. In the next few weeks there is everything from 2.0 trails to 4.0 trips posted. If you are a beginner on trails, the 2.0 runs would be perfect for you... You can work your way up as you gain experience and confidence.

As far as running mud or sand, I certainly like playing around in these areas, however there are two issues that I have that are probably shared by most of the other Jeep owners in the club. Stock engined Jeeps unfortunatly do not have a whold lot of horsepower based on their weight. Thus it is hard to get the wheelspeed necessary to be effective in the sand and the mud. In addition, after mud runs, it seems to take forever to get all of the mud out from the nooks and crannies of my Jeep and I am not a huge fan of all the work it takes to do so I try to keep my mud runs to a minimum. I don't mind doing a nut a bolt before and after I go out and play but add the mud into that and Danny no likely.

As far as sand, I enjoy playing in the sand, even with the lack of horsepower and the fact that I am really not geared for running in the sand. However, the really fun sand areas are quite a long drive away, versus 20 minutes to and hour for the trails that I regularly play on around here.

[My1stJeep]

Doug,

Mine too is my daily driver, you have it right, start slow and work your way up. My wife and I go on scenic trips to crazy, hardest I have been on is Anaconda and that was tough enough with the way my rig is set up.

We too love the dunes, infact the group we go with has all Jeeps except one guy has a rail, we think he may be changing his mind and stepping to a Jeep. If you are interested I will let you know the next time we are going.

I used to love the mud, the winding out of the engine, slinging the mud stuff, no need for a big engine to sling mud, just high rpm's for wheel spin. Now I just don't look forward to the clean up of all that mud so I don't go that often.

This weekend will be possible taking a trip on Sat and Sun if you are interested, only doing moderate trails on Sunday, Saturday could be more difficult ones. Send me a PM if you are interested in going.

Chris
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