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12188 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 8:45am
Subject: Re: Poker run
I don't know if your ISP for azvjc.org can help you on setting up a mailing list, that way you wont have any advertising there at all, and since you already are paying or getting the webspace (on the website) I'm sure you can do it.
You may require to download a Majordomo program (only the webmaster) so people can subscribe and unsubscribe by just emailing it.
Its just a thought, I got it set up in Alloffroad.com and works fine for me, 400+ people in our mailing list and works great. We don't have the same email traffic the azvjc has but I don't see why It would not work.
Paying $90 or so a year is not a lot for the number of people is in it, but why to spend money on something you can get for free.
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
To: AZ_VJC
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Poker run
What about some kind of poker run for AZVJC? I am sure we could raise a
few clams to get no advertisements...
Chris
----------
From: William Mish <yldkat55@hotmail.com>
To: AZ_VJC <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] ads on top
Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:27 AM
It was just a matter of time before they figured out that we weren't seeing
the ads, as they were posted below the signature lines. Which in most
cases, was below the message body. The choice is before us... deal with it,
or shell out the Duckets..... Judging by past experience with this group,
I'd have to say most of us will take it lying down....
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Naylor
To: Len Sullivan ; az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] ads on top
My Groups | az_vjc Main Page | Start a new group!
I agree they are a pain in the ***, but when you think of all we get with
this free email service, I guess we will have to just live with it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@extremezone.com]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 6:38 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] ads on top
What do y'all think of the ads on top of the messages? Is anybody
besides
me annoyed by them?
Egroups has a 'no advertising' option for the groups, but it costs $59.40
per year ( http://www.egroups.com/info/noads.html ). It looks like
the
1FSJ group is going to take up a collection to dump the ads.
Comments? Suggestions? (the Bill Luke treatment perhaps?)
Or should I just shut up and live with it? :-)
Len
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADVERTISEMENT
12189 From: Linda Luik <linda.luik@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 9:05am
Subject: Re: LU - Land Lawsuit - our money at work!
I read this this morning in the Trib. Shouldn't we be part of making
this happen? The ASA4WDC is a member of the BRC. I'll ask tonite at the
AZLR meeting about doing some fund raising to help pay for the lawsuit.
Linda
Chris Krieg wrote:
>
>
> Forwarded from the Jeep TJ mail list. Someone is looking out for us.
>
> ChrisK
>
> ----------
> WASHINGTON (AP) - Land-use groups are challenging five new national
> monuments in federal court, claiming President Clinton overstepped his
> authority by putting new restrictions on 1.5 million acres in Arizona,
> Colorado, Oregon and Washington state. The Mountain States Legal Foundation
> and the BlueRibbon Coalition filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court here
> Tuesday seeking to overturn creation of the monuments, which are among 10
> Clinton designated this year on 4 million acres the government already
> owned. Mining, logging, oil drilling and off-road vehicle use are banned or
> restricted in the monuments. "The bottom line is, the president doesn't have
> the authority to do what he's done," said William Perry Pendley of the
> Mountain States Legal Foundation, a conservative group with a pending
> lawsuit challenging Clinton's 1996 creation of a national monument in Utah.
>
> http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2569306337-2c6
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12190 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 11:13am
Subject: Re: LU - Land Lawsuit - our money at work!
Yesireeubet. I'd be happy to contribute to the Blue Ribbon Coalition.
Let us know what you find out.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Luik" <linda.luik@m...>
To: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
Cc: "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] LU - Land Lawsuit - our money at work!
> I read this this morning in the Trib. Shouldn't we be part of making
> this happen? The ASA4WDC is a member of the BRC. I'll ask tonite at the
> AZLR meeting about doing some fund raising to help pay for the lawsuit.
>
> Linda
>
>
> Chris Krieg wrote:
> >
> >
> > Forwarded from the Jeep TJ mail list. Someone is looking out for us.
> >
> > ChrisK
> >
> > ----------
> > WASHINGTON (AP) - Land-use groups are challenging five new national
> > monuments in federal court, claiming President Clinton overstepped his
> > authority by putting new restrictions on 1.5 million acres in Arizona,
> > Colorado, Oregon and Washington state. The Mountain States Legal
Foundation
> > and the BlueRibbon Coalition filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court here
> > Tuesday seeking to overturn creation of the monuments, which are among
10
> > Clinton designated this year on 4 million acres the government already
> > owned. Mining, logging, oil drilling and off-road vehicle use are banned
or
> > restricted in the monuments. "The bottom line is, the president doesn't
have
> > the authority to do what he's done," said William Perry Pendley of the
> > Mountain States Legal Foundation, a conservative group with a pending
> > lawsuit challenging Clinton's 1996 creation of a national monument in
Utah.
> >
> > http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2569306337-2c6
>
>
12191 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 0:46pm
Subject: Fw: [JEEP-TJ] Neat Toy!
My next accessory to carry with me in my Jeep:
http://www.solotrek.com/
Doug
12192 From: Linda Luik <linda.luik@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 1:02pm
Subject: Re: Fw: [JEEP-TJ] Neat Toy!
Yep! The perfect accesssory for any 4-wheeler!
DougB wrote:
>
>
> My next accessory to carry with me in my Jeep:
>
> http://www.solotrek.com/
>
> Doug
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12193 From: Nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 1:01pm
Subject: locker
I ordered my oxtrax cable locker today. It should arrive on the first of october. Total was 580.00 and installation I guess will be around 200 (unless anyone knows how to mesh spider gears...). I'll be back hitting the trails with ya'll shortly after that.
Nick
Nnote@neta.com
Nnote@juno.com
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12194 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Poker run
If you can't use the AZVJC one and want to get a hold of us, I would be glad
to help.
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonard K. Pennock" <lpennock@c...>
To: "Jchio - Alloffroad.com" <jchio@a...>
Cc: "AZ_VJC" <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>; "Chris" <cmandrick@v...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Poker run
> I've currently got Majordomo running on my linux server the only problem
> is the address is ugly. If someone has a domain name we can use then we
> could add it to the DNS server to get a better name.
>
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Jchio - Alloffroad.com wrote:
>
12195 From: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 2:04pm
Subject: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4 inches
wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300). Another
alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than stock,
though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the stock
axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a front end
anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum connect
mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles, which are
very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
Just my 2 cents,
Patrick
P.S. I HATE those stupid ads, too.
----- Original Message -----
From: <flatfenderman@a...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
>
> A buddy of mine is looking for a Dana 44 front axle for his 93 YJ. He
really
> doesn't want to drop the $3200 Dana Trac wants for a new one with an open
> diff. Is anyone aware of a cheaper option?
>
>
>
12196 From: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 2:24pm
Subject: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
You could use most anything for that I suppose. The narrow track wagoneer
would be a closer fit, or the scout front end. It seems everyone wants to go
wider these days, though. Good reasons for it, too. Atleast, on the trail
that is.
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Woods <phjwo@p...>
To: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
> You sound wise in the way o the axel. What would a good upgrade be on a
CJ-5. I
> have a stock Dana 27A. Would I be able to swap in the Wagoneer axel?
>
> Jeff
>
> Patrick Stevens wrote:
>
> >
> > I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4 inches
> > wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300). Another
> > alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than stock,
> > though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the stock
> > axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a front
end
> > anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum connect
> > mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles, which
are
> > very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents,
> > Patrick
> >
> > P.S. I HATE those stupid ads, too.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <flatfenderman@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:52 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
> >
> > >
> > > A buddy of mine is looking for a Dana 44 front axle for his 93 YJ. He
> > really
> > > doesn't want to drop the $3200 Dana Trac wants for a new one with an
open
> > > diff. Is anyone aware of a cheaper option?
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------
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12197 From: Daniel Weed <revolvr@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 3:39pm
Subject: Ads on Top
It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
million members. ;-)
-- Dan
Your Great and Wise List Administrator
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" <tdunnsprint@e...> wrote:
> Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
come to
> think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
would be
> our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
that
$59 fee
> per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
Gee,
> hope they're listening.
> Tom Dunn
> tdunnsprint@e...
>
12198 From: Todd Jaramillo <todd.jaramillo@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 4:11pm
Subject: TJ lift kit
Has anyone out there installed the new "Extreme Long Travel Suspension" from Rubicon Express? If so, who installed it and how does it perform?
12199 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 5:08pm
Subject: Re: locker
Is there a website for OXTRAX ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Nnote
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] locker
I ordered my oxtrax cable locker today. It should arrive on the first of october. Total was 580.00 and installation I guess will be around 200 (unless anyone knows how to mesh spider gears...). I'll be back hitting the trails with ya'll shortly after that.
Nick
Nnote@neta.com
Nnote@juno.com
12200 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 5:24pm
Subject: Re: locker
Yuppers.
http://www.oxtrax.com/
ChrisK
From: "chiena"
Is there a website for OXTRAX ?
12201 From: <dirtdog@u...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 5:36pm
Subject: Re: Ads on Top
Oh wise One,
I would be willing to pitch in to help the cause and I bet most of the
"regulars" would also be willing to throw a couple of bucks your way. I
would just need an address to mail it to.
Bernie
Daniel Weed wrote:
>
> It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
> must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
> regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
>
> I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
> million members. ;-)
>
> -- Dan
> Your Great and Wise List Administrator
>
> --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" <tdunnsprint@e...> wrote:
> > Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
> come to
> > think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
> would be
> > our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
> that
> $59 fee
> > per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
> Gee,
> > hope they're listening.
> > Tom Dunn
> > tdunnsprint@e...
> >
12202 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:11pm
Subject: Re: Ads on Top
Ubet. I'd be happy to help.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <dirtdog@u...>
To: "Daniel Weed" <revolvr@a...>; "'Arizona Virtual Jeep Club'"
<AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ads on Top
>
> Oh wise One,
> I would be willing to pitch in to help the cause and I bet most of the
> "regulars" would also be willing to throw a couple of bucks your way. I
> would just need an address to mail it to.
> Bernie
>
> Daniel Weed wrote:
>
> >
> > It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
> > must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
> > regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
> >
> > I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
> > million members. ;-)
> >
> > -- Dan
> > Your Great and Wise List Administrator
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" <tdunnsprint@e...> wrote:
> > > Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
> > come to
> > > think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
> > would be
> > > our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
> > that
> > $59 fee
> > > per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
> > Gee,
> > > hope they're listening.
> > > Tom Dunn
> > > tdunnsprint@e...
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
12203 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:21pm
Subject: Re: Ads on Top
If you do this, please let us know. I'd be happy to kick in. I'm sure we'll
get enough people to contribute to cover your cost.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Weed" <revolvr@a...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Ads on Top
>
>
> It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
> must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
> regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
>
> I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
> million members. ;-)
>
> -- Dan
> Your Great and Wise List Administrator
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" <tdunnsprint@e...> wrote:
> > Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
> come to
> > think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
> would be
> > our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
> that
> $59 fee
> > per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
> Gee,
> > hope they're listening.
> > Tom Dunn
> > tdunnsprint@e...
> >
>
>
>
>
>
12204 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:26pm
Subject: Re: Ads on Top
There is a way to get it done... for FREE... here is it:
www.paypal.com gave me $5 for each referal I make, that mean if some of you go there, add my email as referal and sign in with your credit card, I will get $5 and it wont cost you anything.
So if someone of you gets an account and 11 or 12 people sign in, you will get the money and those banners will go away..
Just another Idea it could be done.
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
----- Original Message -----
From: DougB
To: az_vjc@egroups.com ; Daniel Weed
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ads on Top
If you do this, please let us know. I'd be happy to kick in. I'm sure we'll
get enough people to contribute to cover your cost.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Weed" <revolvr@aol.com>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Ads on Top
>
>
> It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
> must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
> regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
>
> I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
> million members. ;-)
>
> -- Dan
> Your Great and Wise List Administrator
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" wrote:
> > Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
> come to
> > think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
> would be
> > our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
> that
> $59 fee
> > per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
> Gee,
> > hope they're listening.
> > Tom Dunn
> > tdunnsprint@e...
> >
>
>
>
>
>
12205 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:25pm
Subject: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Just a thought, but my wagoneer D44 has a passenger side pumpkin,
where as the tcase in the YJ requires one on the driver's side. The
only option available I would imagine would be a 68-71 bronco D44.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Patrick Stevens" <dreamwev@m...> wrote:
> I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4
inches
> wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300).
Another
> alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than
stock,
> though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the
stock
> axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a
front end
> anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum
connect
> mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles,
which are
> very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Patrick
>
> P.S. I HATE those stupid ads, too.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <flatfenderman@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:52 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
>
>
> >
> > A buddy of mine is looking for a Dana 44 front axle for his 93
YJ. He
> really
> > doesn't want to drop the $3200 Dana Trac wants for a new one with
an open
> > diff. Is anyone aware of a cheaper option?
> >
> >
> >
12206 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:37pm
Subject: Re: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Some wagoneers with ¿quadratrac? transmissions have the diff on the right side, the only drawback is you must go with 6 lugs, and the rear differential it is not centered, I am not totaly sure about that.
Chris, also one of those J Jeep trucks, are 8 lug D44/60 would be a good combo IMO.
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Meade
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Just a thought, but my wagoneer D44 has a passenger side pumpkin,
where as the tcase in the YJ requires one on the driver's side. The
only option available I would imagine would be a 68-71 bronco D44.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Patrick Stevens" wrote:
> I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4
inches
> wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300).
Another
> alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than
stock,
> though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the
stock
> axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a
front end
> anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum
connect
> mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles,
which are
> very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Patrick
>
12207 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:33pm
Subject: Re: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
I'm confused. The YJ needs a left drop front axle if it has a NP231 tcase. The quadratrac transfercase (not transmission) had right drop front and rear axles, not left front and right rear. Swapping out the 231 would be the only option for running a righthand drop front D44.
To my knowledge the *only* vehicle that came stock with a left drop D44 is the late 60s-early 70s broncos. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com
To: az_vjc@egroups.com ; Jeff Meade
Cc: Flatfenderman@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Some wagoneers with ¿quadratrac? transmissions have the diff on the right side, the only drawback is you must go with 6 lugs, and the rear differential it is not centered, I am not totaly sure about that.
Chris, also one of those J Jeep trucks, are 8 lug D44/60 would be a good combo IMO.
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Meade
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Just a thought, but my wagoneer D44 has a passenger side pumpkin,
where as the tcase in the YJ requires one on the driver's side. The
only option available I would imagine would be a 68-71 bronco D44.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Patrick Stevens" wrote:
> I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4
inches
> wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300).
Another
> alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than
stock,
> though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the
stock
> axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a
front end
> anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum
connect
> mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles,
which are
> very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Patrick
>
12208 From: Larry <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 4:31pm
Subject: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
I would say the narrow track Wagoneer would be a better fit. Also, the scout
(as far as I know) has the diff on the wrong side for a YJ.
Also people swap early bronco front 44's into YJ's. A little more bracketry
to remove but no big deal.
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
To: az_vjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
>
> I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4 inches
> wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300). Another
> alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than stock,
> though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the stock
> axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a front
end
> anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum connect
> mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles, which
are
> very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Patrick
>
> P.S. I HATE those stupid ads, too.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <flatfenderman@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:52 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
>
>
> >
> > A buddy of mine is looking for a Dana 44 front axle for his 93 YJ. He
> really
> > doesn't want to drop the $3200 Dana Trac wants for a new one with an
open
> > diff. Is anyone aware of a cheaper option?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
12209 From: <bt88yj@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 2:51pm
Subject: Re: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Older Grand wagoneer's and I think cherokee's came with a left hand front
diff dana 44 6 lug rear
I have seen the 20 back and the 44 front put in a wrangler works good just a
little wider I think it came out of a 90 grand wangoneer the one that looks
like it has wood on the side
the 20 has on piece axles
12210 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 7:12pm
Subject: RE: TJ lift kit
Check JeepsUnlimited.com because a couple people there have it but they are having problems banging the arms on rocks and them breaking. I talked with Ryan at RE and asked about the long arm upgrade (just the belly pan and control arms) and he said it would be shipped close to January if I ordered it now. He also said they are working on re-engineering the arms so they don't get his so much but they were still selling the current setup.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Jaramillo [mailto:todd.jaramillo@agra.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 4:12 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ lift kit
Has anyone out there installed the new "Extreme Long Travel Suspension" from Rubicon Express? If so, who installed it and how does it perform?
12211 From: Leah Eliscu <jeep@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:20pm
Subject: Re: Fw: [JEEP-TJ] Neat Toy!
Hey Doug???
Geoff is begining to wonder if you have
too much time on your hands!!??!!
Leah
>My next accessory to carry with me in my Jeep:
>
>
> http://www.solotrek.com/
>
>Doug
>
>
>
>
>
12212 From: Leah Eliscu <jeep@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:35pm
Subject: Re: LU - Land Lawsuit - our money at work!
Our money???
I did'nt see any of you at the BLM Ironwood Forest National
Monument meeting. I know it's impossible to attend every meeting
and every clean-up in the state. So that was not a snide comment.
The Blue Ribbon asked Terry Heslin to ask those who
had attended what they thought of the meeting.
Two people who I do not know got a very warm and
fuzzy feeling from the BLM. They feel comfortable
with letting the BLM handle it. So now Blue Ribbon is
considering dropping Ironwood from the lawsuit.
I could not bear to lose one route out there!
I e-mailed Adena Cook my not so warm feelings about
Fransico Mendoza. I also snail mailed the hand-outs we
received from the BLM. I suggest they NOT drop Ironwood
from the lawsuit! Let us not forget the city council that contacted
Babbit to push this land into a national monument (that BLM
is underfunded to take care of) without ANY public input
in the first place.
Leah
>I read this this morning in the Trib. Shouldn't we be part of making
>this happen? The ASA4WDC is a member of the BRC. I'll ask tonite at the
>AZLR meeting about doing some fund raising to help pay for the lawsuit.
>
>Linda
>
>
>Chris Krieg wrote:
>>
>>
>> Forwarded from the Jeep TJ mail list. Someone is looking out for us.
>>
>> ChrisK
>>
>> ----------
>> WASHINGTON (AP) - Land-use groups are challenging five new national
>> monuments in federal court, claiming President Clinton overstepped his
>> authority by putting new restrictions on 1.5 million acres in Arizona,
>> Colorado, Oregon and Washington state. The Mountain States Legal
Foundation
>> and the BlueRibbon Coalition filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court here
>> Tuesday seeking to overturn creation of the monuments, which are among 10
>> Clinton designated this year on 4 million acres the government already
>> owned. Mining, logging, oil drilling and off-road vehicle use are banned
or
>> restricted in the monuments. "The bottom line is, the president doesn't
have
>> the authority to do what he's done," said William Perry Pendley of the
>> Mountain States Legal Foundation, a conservative group with a pending
>> lawsuit challenging Clinton's 1996 creation of a national monument in
Utah.
>>
>> http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2569306337-2c6
>
>
12188 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 8:45am
Subject: Re: Poker run
I don't know if your ISP for azvjc.org can help you on setting up a mailing list, that way you wont have any advertising there at all, and since you already are paying or getting the webspace (on the website) I'm sure you can do it.
You may require to download a Majordomo program (only the webmaster) so people can subscribe and unsubscribe by just emailing it.
Its just a thought, I got it set up in Alloffroad.com and works fine for me, 400+ people in our mailing list and works great. We don't have the same email traffic the azvjc has but I don't see why It would not work.
Paying $90 or so a year is not a lot for the number of people is in it, but why to spend money on something you can get for free.
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris
To: AZ_VJC
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 10:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Poker run
What about some kind of poker run for AZVJC? I am sure we could raise a
few clams to get no advertisements...
Chris
----------
From: William Mish <yldkat55@hotmail.com>
To: AZ_VJC <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] ads on top
Date: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 12:27 AM
It was just a matter of time before they figured out that we weren't seeing
the ads, as they were posted below the signature lines. Which in most
cases, was below the message body. The choice is before us... deal with it,
or shell out the Duckets..... Judging by past experience with this group,
I'd have to say most of us will take it lying down....
Bill Mish
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Naylor
To: Len Sullivan ; az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2000 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] ads on top
My Groups | az_vjc Main Page | Start a new group!
I agree they are a pain in the ***, but when you think of all we get with
this free email service, I guess we will have to just live with it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@extremezone.com]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 6:38 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] ads on top
What do y'all think of the ads on top of the messages? Is anybody
besides
me annoyed by them?
Egroups has a 'no advertising' option for the groups, but it costs $59.40
per year ( http://www.egroups.com/info/noads.html ). It looks like
the
1FSJ group is going to take up a collection to dump the ads.
Comments? Suggestions? (the Bill Luke treatment perhaps?)
Or should I just shut up and live with it? :-)
Len
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
ADVERTISEMENT
12189 From: Linda Luik <linda.luik@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 9:05am
Subject: Re: LU - Land Lawsuit - our money at work!
I read this this morning in the Trib. Shouldn't we be part of making
this happen? The ASA4WDC is a member of the BRC. I'll ask tonite at the
AZLR meeting about doing some fund raising to help pay for the lawsuit.
Linda
Chris Krieg wrote:
>
>
> Forwarded from the Jeep TJ mail list. Someone is looking out for us.
>
> ChrisK
>
> ----------
> WASHINGTON (AP) - Land-use groups are challenging five new national
> monuments in federal court, claiming President Clinton overstepped his
> authority by putting new restrictions on 1.5 million acres in Arizona,
> Colorado, Oregon and Washington state. The Mountain States Legal Foundation
> and the BlueRibbon Coalition filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court here
> Tuesday seeking to overturn creation of the monuments, which are among 10
> Clinton designated this year on 4 million acres the government already
> owned. Mining, logging, oil drilling and off-road vehicle use are banned or
> restricted in the monuments. "The bottom line is, the president doesn't have
> the authority to do what he's done," said William Perry Pendley of the
> Mountain States Legal Foundation, a conservative group with a pending
> lawsuit challenging Clinton's 1996 creation of a national monument in Utah.
>
> http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2569306337-2c6
Attachment: vcard [not shown]
12190 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 11:13am
Subject: Re: LU - Land Lawsuit - our money at work!
Yesireeubet. I'd be happy to contribute to the Blue Ribbon Coalition.
Let us know what you find out.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Linda Luik" <linda.luik@m...>
To: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
Cc: "Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] LU - Land Lawsuit - our money at work!
> I read this this morning in the Trib. Shouldn't we be part of making
> this happen? The ASA4WDC is a member of the BRC. I'll ask tonite at the
> AZLR meeting about doing some fund raising to help pay for the lawsuit.
>
> Linda
>
>
> Chris Krieg wrote:
> >
> >
> > Forwarded from the Jeep TJ mail list. Someone is looking out for us.
> >
> > ChrisK
> >
> > ----------
> > WASHINGTON (AP) - Land-use groups are challenging five new national
> > monuments in federal court, claiming President Clinton overstepped his
> > authority by putting new restrictions on 1.5 million acres in Arizona,
> > Colorado, Oregon and Washington state. The Mountain States Legal
Foundation
> > and the BlueRibbon Coalition filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court here
> > Tuesday seeking to overturn creation of the monuments, which are among
10
> > Clinton designated this year on 4 million acres the government already
> > owned. Mining, logging, oil drilling and off-road vehicle use are banned
or
> > restricted in the monuments. "The bottom line is, the president doesn't
have
> > the authority to do what he's done," said William Perry Pendley of the
> > Mountain States Legal Foundation, a conservative group with a pending
> > lawsuit challenging Clinton's 1996 creation of a national monument in
Utah.
> >
> > http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2569306337-2c6
>
>
12191 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 0:46pm
Subject: Fw: [JEEP-TJ] Neat Toy!
My next accessory to carry with me in my Jeep:
http://www.solotrek.com/
Doug
12192 From: Linda Luik <linda.luik@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 1:02pm
Subject: Re: Fw: [JEEP-TJ] Neat Toy!
Yep! The perfect accesssory for any 4-wheeler!
DougB wrote:
>
>
> My next accessory to carry with me in my Jeep:
>
> http://www.solotrek.com/
>
> Doug
Attachment: vcard [not shown]
12193 From: Nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 1:01pm
Subject: locker
I ordered my oxtrax cable locker today. It should arrive on the first of october. Total was 580.00 and installation I guess will be around 200 (unless anyone knows how to mesh spider gears...). I'll be back hitting the trails with ya'll shortly after that.
Nick
Nnote@neta.com
Nnote@juno.com
Attachment: vcard [not shown]
12194 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Poker run
If you can't use the AZVJC one and want to get a hold of us, I would be glad
to help.
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leonard K. Pennock" <lpennock@c...>
To: "Jchio - Alloffroad.com" <jchio@a...>
Cc: "AZ_VJC" <AZ_VJC@egroups.com>; "Chris" <cmandrick@v...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Poker run
> I've currently got Majordomo running on my linux server the only problem
> is the address is ugly. If someone has a domain name we can use then we
> could add it to the DNS server to get a better name.
>
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2000, Jchio - Alloffroad.com wrote:
>
12195 From: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 2:04pm
Subject: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4 inches
wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300). Another
alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than stock,
though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the stock
axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a front end
anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum connect
mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles, which are
very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
Just my 2 cents,
Patrick
P.S. I HATE those stupid ads, too.
----- Original Message -----
From: <flatfenderman@a...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
>
> A buddy of mine is looking for a Dana 44 front axle for his 93 YJ. He
really
> doesn't want to drop the $3200 Dana Trac wants for a new one with an open
> diff. Is anyone aware of a cheaper option?
>
>
>
12196 From: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 2:24pm
Subject: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
You could use most anything for that I suppose. The narrow track wagoneer
would be a closer fit, or the scout front end. It seems everyone wants to go
wider these days, though. Good reasons for it, too. Atleast, on the trail
that is.
Patrick
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Woods <phjwo@p...>
To: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
> You sound wise in the way o the axel. What would a good upgrade be on a
CJ-5. I
> have a stock Dana 27A. Would I be able to swap in the Wagoneer axel?
>
> Jeff
>
> Patrick Stevens wrote:
>
> >
> > I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4 inches
> > wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300). Another
> > alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than stock,
> > though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the stock
> > axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a front
end
> > anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum connect
> > mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles, which
are
> > very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
> >
> > Just my 2 cents,
> > Patrick
> >
> > P.S. I HATE those stupid ads, too.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <flatfenderman@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:52 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
> >
> > >
> > > A buddy of mine is looking for a Dana 44 front axle for his 93 YJ. He
> > really
> > > doesn't want to drop the $3200 Dana Trac wants for a new one with an
open
> > > diff. Is anyone aware of a cheaper option?
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
> --
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Click here for Free Video!!
> http://www.gohip.com/free_video/
>
>
12197 From: Daniel Weed <revolvr@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 3:39pm
Subject: Ads on Top
It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
million members. ;-)
-- Dan
Your Great and Wise List Administrator
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" <tdunnsprint@e...> wrote:
> Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
come to
> think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
would be
> our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
that
$59 fee
> per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
Gee,
> hope they're listening.
> Tom Dunn
> tdunnsprint@e...
>
12198 From: Todd Jaramillo <todd.jaramillo@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 4:11pm
Subject: TJ lift kit
Has anyone out there installed the new "Extreme Long Travel Suspension" from Rubicon Express? If so, who installed it and how does it perform?
12199 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 5:08pm
Subject: Re: locker
Is there a website for OXTRAX ?
----- Original Message -----
From: Nnote
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] locker
I ordered my oxtrax cable locker today. It should arrive on the first of october. Total was 580.00 and installation I guess will be around 200 (unless anyone knows how to mesh spider gears...). I'll be back hitting the trails with ya'll shortly after that.
Nick
Nnote@neta.com
Nnote@juno.com
12200 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 5:24pm
Subject: Re: locker
Yuppers.
http://www.oxtrax.com/
ChrisK
From: "chiena"
Is there a website for OXTRAX ?
12201 From: <dirtdog@u...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 5:36pm
Subject: Re: Ads on Top
Oh wise One,
I would be willing to pitch in to help the cause and I bet most of the
"regulars" would also be willing to throw a couple of bucks your way. I
would just need an address to mail it to.
Bernie
Daniel Weed wrote:
>
> It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
> must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
> regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
>
> I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
> million members. ;-)
>
> -- Dan
> Your Great and Wise List Administrator
>
> --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" <tdunnsprint@e...> wrote:
> > Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
> come to
> > think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
> would be
> > our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
> that
> $59 fee
> > per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
> Gee,
> > hope they're listening.
> > Tom Dunn
> > tdunnsprint@e...
> >
12202 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:11pm
Subject: Re: Ads on Top
Ubet. I'd be happy to help.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <dirtdog@u...>
To: "Daniel Weed" <revolvr@a...>; "'Arizona Virtual Jeep Club'"
<AZ_VJC@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ads on Top
>
> Oh wise One,
> I would be willing to pitch in to help the cause and I bet most of the
> "regulars" would also be willing to throw a couple of bucks your way. I
> would just need an address to mail it to.
> Bernie
>
> Daniel Weed wrote:
>
> >
> > It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
> > must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
> > regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
> >
> > I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
> > million members. ;-)
> >
> > -- Dan
> > Your Great and Wise List Administrator
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" <tdunnsprint@e...> wrote:
> > > Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
> > come to
> > > think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
> > would be
> > > our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
> > that
> > $59 fee
> > > per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
> > Gee,
> > > hope they're listening.
> > > Tom Dunn
> > > tdunnsprint@e...
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
12203 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:21pm
Subject: Re: Ads on Top
If you do this, please let us know. I'd be happy to kick in. I'm sure we'll
get enough people to contribute to cover your cost.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Weed" <revolvr@a...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Ads on Top
>
>
> It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
> must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
> regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
>
> I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
> million members. ;-)
>
> -- Dan
> Your Great and Wise List Administrator
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" <tdunnsprint@e...> wrote:
> > Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
> come to
> > think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
> would be
> > our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
> that
> $59 fee
> > per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
> Gee,
> > hope they're listening.
> > Tom Dunn
> > tdunnsprint@e...
> >
>
>
>
>
>
12204 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:26pm
Subject: Re: Ads on Top
There is a way to get it done... for FREE... here is it:
www.paypal.com gave me $5 for each referal I make, that mean if some of you go there, add my email as referal and sign in with your credit card, I will get $5 and it wont cost you anything.
So if someone of you gets an account and 11 or 12 people sign in, you will get the money and those banners will go away..
Just another Idea it could be done.
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
----- Original Message -----
From: DougB
To: az_vjc@egroups.com ; Daniel Weed
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:21 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Ads on Top
If you do this, please let us know. I'd be happy to kick in. I'm sure we'll
get enough people to contribute to cover your cost.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Weed" <revolvr@aol.com>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 3:39 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Ads on Top
>
>
> It's actually $59.40 per group per year, not per person. The payment
> must come from the moderator. If I don't hear back positively soon
> regarding my complaint, I'll foot the bill for this year.
>
> I imagine they are getting complaints from quite a few of their 18
> million members. ;-)
>
> -- Dan
> Your Great and Wise List Administrator
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Tom Dunn" wrote:
> > Hmmm. It would be nice to dispose of these pesky ads. Actually,
> come to
> > think of it, we may have a legal basis for obecting to them. Which
> would be
> > our non-profit status. This might also allow E-Groups to forgo
> that
> $59 fee
> > per member and get themselves a nice tax deduction in the bargain.
> Gee,
> > hope they're listening.
> > Tom Dunn
> > tdunnsprint@e...
> >
>
>
>
>
>
12205 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:25pm
Subject: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Just a thought, but my wagoneer D44 has a passenger side pumpkin,
where as the tcase in the YJ requires one on the driver's side. The
only option available I would imagine would be a 68-71 bronco D44.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Patrick Stevens" <dreamwev@m...> wrote:
> I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4
inches
> wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300).
Another
> alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than
stock,
> though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the
stock
> axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a
front end
> anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum
connect
> mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles,
which are
> very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Patrick
>
> P.S. I HATE those stupid ads, too.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <flatfenderman@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:52 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
>
>
> >
> > A buddy of mine is looking for a Dana 44 front axle for his 93
YJ. He
> really
> > doesn't want to drop the $3200 Dana Trac wants for a new one with
an open
> > diff. Is anyone aware of a cheaper option?
> >
> >
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12206 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:37pm
Subject: Re: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Some wagoneers with ¿quadratrac? transmissions have the diff on the right side, the only drawback is you must go with 6 lugs, and the rear differential it is not centered, I am not totaly sure about that.
Chris, also one of those J Jeep trucks, are 8 lug D44/60 would be a good combo IMO.
Jesus Chio
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----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Meade
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Just a thought, but my wagoneer D44 has a passenger side pumpkin,
where as the tcase in the YJ requires one on the driver's side. The
only option available I would imagine would be a 68-71 bronco D44.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Patrick Stevens" wrote:
> I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4
inches
> wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300).
Another
> alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than
stock,
> though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the
stock
> axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a
front end
> anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum
connect
> mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles,
which are
> very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Patrick
>
12207 From: Jeff Meade <jeffm@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:33pm
Subject: Re: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
I'm confused. The YJ needs a left drop front axle if it has a NP231 tcase. The quadratrac transfercase (not transmission) had right drop front and rear axles, not left front and right rear. Swapping out the 231 would be the only option for running a righthand drop front D44.
To my knowledge the *only* vehicle that came stock with a left drop D44 is the late 60s-early 70s broncos. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com
To: az_vjc@egroups.com ; Jeff Meade
Cc: Flatfenderman@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Some wagoneers with ¿quadratrac? transmissions have the diff on the right side, the only drawback is you must go with 6 lugs, and the rear differential it is not centered, I am not totaly sure about that.
Chris, also one of those J Jeep trucks, are 8 lug D44/60 would be a good combo IMO.
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Meade
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 8:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Just a thought, but my wagoneer D44 has a passenger side pumpkin,
where as the tcase in the YJ requires one on the driver's side. The
only option available I would imagine would be a 68-71 bronco D44.
Jeff
--- In az_vjc@egroups.com, "Patrick Stevens" wrote:
> I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4
inches
> wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300).
Another
> alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than
stock,
> though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the
stock
> axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a
front end
> anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum
connect
> mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles,
which are
> very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Patrick
>
12208 From: Larry <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 4:31pm
Subject: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
I would say the narrow track Wagoneer would be a better fit. Also, the scout
(as far as I know) has the diff on the wrong side for a YJ.
Also people swap early bronco front 44's into YJ's. A little more bracketry
to remove but no big deal.
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Stevens <dreamwev@m...>
To: az_vjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 2:04 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
>
> I would suggest a wide track wagoneer. They are approximately 3-4 inches
> wider than a stock YJ. They can be picked up cheap ($100-300). Another
> alternative is a scout front end. They are slightly narrower than stock,
> though. I have problems with my shocks hitting my brakes with the stock
> axle, so I prefer the wider track. 3 or 4 inches is nothing for a front
end
> anyway. Just be sure to get a wagoneer without the stupid vacuum connect
> mechanism. Some the early model 44's also have flat top knuckles, which
are
> very good to have for a high clearance steering conversion.
>
> Just my 2 cents,
> Patrick
>
> P.S. I HATE those stupid ads, too.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <flatfenderman@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 6:52 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Need a 44 front for a YJ
>
>
> >
> > A buddy of mine is looking for a Dana 44 front axle for his 93 YJ. He
> really
> > doesn't want to drop the $3200 Dana Trac wants for a new one with an
open
> > diff. Is anyone aware of a cheaper option?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
12209 From: <bt88yj@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 2:51pm
Subject: Re: Re: Need a 44 front for a YJ
Older Grand wagoneer's and I think cherokee's came with a left hand front
diff dana 44 6 lug rear
I have seen the 20 back and the 44 front put in a wrangler works good just a
little wider I think it came out of a 90 grand wangoneer the one that looks
like it has wood on the side
the 20 has on piece axles
12210 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 7:12pm
Subject: RE: TJ lift kit
Check JeepsUnlimited.com because a couple people there have it but they are having problems banging the arms on rocks and them breaking. I talked with Ryan at RE and asked about the long arm upgrade (just the belly pan and control arms) and he said it would be shipped close to January if I ordered it now. He also said they are working on re-engineering the arms so they don't get his so much but they were still selling the current setup.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Todd Jaramillo [mailto:todd.jaramillo@agra.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 4:12 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ lift kit
Has anyone out there installed the new "Extreme Long Travel Suspension" from Rubicon Express? If so, who installed it and how does it perform?
12211 From: Leah Eliscu <jeep@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:20pm
Subject: Re: Fw: [JEEP-TJ] Neat Toy!
Hey Doug???
Geoff is begining to wonder if you have
too much time on your hands!!??!!
Leah
>My next accessory to carry with me in my Jeep:
>
>
> http://www.solotrek.com/
>
>Doug
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12212 From: Leah Eliscu <jeep@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 30, 2000 6:35pm
Subject: Re: LU - Land Lawsuit - our money at work!
Our money???
I did'nt see any of you at the BLM Ironwood Forest National
Monument meeting. I know it's impossible to attend every meeting
and every clean-up in the state. So that was not a snide comment.
The Blue Ribbon asked Terry Heslin to ask those who
had attended what they thought of the meeting.
Two people who I do not know got a very warm and
fuzzy feeling from the BLM. They feel comfortable
with letting the BLM handle it. So now Blue Ribbon is
considering dropping Ironwood from the lawsuit.
I could not bear to lose one route out there!
I e-mailed Adena Cook my not so warm feelings about
Fransico Mendoza. I also snail mailed the hand-outs we
received from the BLM. I suggest they NOT drop Ironwood
from the lawsuit! Let us not forget the city council that contacted
Babbit to push this land into a national monument (that BLM
is underfunded to take care of) without ANY public input
in the first place.
Leah
>I read this this morning in the Trib. Shouldn't we be part of making
>this happen? The ASA4WDC is a member of the BRC. I'll ask tonite at the
>AZLR meeting about doing some fund raising to help pay for the lawsuit.
>
>Linda
>
>
>Chris Krieg wrote:
>>
>>
>> Forwarded from the Jeep TJ mail list. Someone is looking out for us.
>>
>> ChrisK
>>
>> ----------
>> WASHINGTON (AP) - Land-use groups are challenging five new national
>> monuments in federal court, claiming President Clinton overstepped his
>> authority by putting new restrictions on 1.5 million acres in Arizona,
>> Colorado, Oregon and Washington state. The Mountain States Legal
Foundation
>> and the BlueRibbon Coalition filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court here
>> Tuesday seeking to overturn creation of the monuments, which are among 10
>> Clinton designated this year on 4 million acres the government already
>> owned. Mining, logging, oil drilling and off-road vehicle use are banned
or
>> restricted in the monuments. "The bottom line is, the president doesn't
have
>> the authority to do what he's done," said William Perry Pendley of the
>> Mountain States Legal Foundation, a conservative group with a pending
>> lawsuit challenging Clinton's 1996 creation of a national monument in
Utah.
>>
>> http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2569306337-2c6
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