View Full Version : Ideas from you...
jeepin_in_az
01-13-2005, 03:34 PM
Is there any thing you guys would like to see us produce?
Rock Rails? (There are so many of them out there)
Xtreme Rock Halo's?
Any kind of plastic ABS forms? Kinda like the Kilby pod?
Winch mounts?
Come up with some ideas, and if I use your idea and your vehicle for a template/guinea pig, I will give it to you at a discount....
Let the idea's roll in! :D
1BLKJP
01-13-2005, 03:45 PM
If you can make good sturdy winch plates cheaper than we can get them from Warn and such then that would be a hella idea. Especially if they were bolt on with not drilling and such.
What about front bumpers? Have you started working on many of them yet?
ChrisK
01-13-2005, 04:00 PM
Brownies. I really like chocolate brownies. Oh wait, you were talking about Jeep parts weren't you. Hmmm. That I'll have to get back to you on.
DsrtJeeper
01-13-2005, 04:11 PM
Tube doors that drop right on our hinge pins and have a quality latch. One company offers them, but they are wimpy tubing.
I'm talking .120 wall here. ;) Literally noone offers heavy duty tubed half doors for Wranglers. Yet....you can buy them readily for Toyota trucks! :rolleyes: These would be awesome for that extra bit of safety when our doors are removed.
1BLKJP
01-13-2005, 04:22 PM
Oh and little brackets that fit on the dash so that I can mount my favorite autographed picture of Flexy.
You know what I crack myself up. And if you don't believe me, just ask me.
Mike, what about building your own bead lock rims? There aren't very many places in town that build them.
JamesT
01-13-2005, 04:59 PM
I would get some tube doors, if they had some vinyl on them. The only reason I run my doors is to keep my limbs inside and the bush outside. I hate the ones I have.
jeepin_in_az
01-13-2005, 05:43 PM
Brownies. I really like chocolate brownies. Oh wait, you were talking about Jeep parts weren't you. Hmmm. That I'll have to get back to you on.
I make really good brownies...just ignore the little green weeds in them...:D
jeepin_in_az
01-13-2005, 05:45 PM
If you can make good sturdy winch plates cheaper than we can get them from Warn and such then that would be a hella idea. Especially if they were bolt on with not drilling and such.
What about front bumpers? Have you started working on many of them yet?
I haven't really checked into winch plates, what is the normal price from Warn?
Front bumpers...yes. Range in size from 42" to 56" or more. 2 d-ring mounts, reciever hitch if you want it.
jeepin_in_az
01-13-2005, 05:46 PM
Tube doors are a good idea...only if I had a tube bender :rolleyes:
Looks like I have my next tool purchase lined up! :D
jeep4offrd
01-13-2005, 05:50 PM
The door idea is an excellent idea. Problem is. You need to get yourself a tube bender. Then you can start building cages too. :D
I'd gladly be your ginnie pig. :D
jeepin_in_az
01-13-2005, 05:51 PM
The door idea is an excellent idea. Problem is. You need to get yourself a tube bender. Then you can start building cages too. :D
I'd gladly be your ginnie pig. :D
oink, oink! :D
k7mto
01-13-2005, 06:34 PM
And I'll be your guinea pig ;)
Tube doors are a good idea...only if I had a tube bender :rolleyes:
Looks like I have my next tool purchase lined up! :D
An ideal set of tube doors, I.M.H.O., would be lined in heavy plastic, a map pocket on the inside, and levers to contact the light switches. That way the lights and alarm would work as well! :D
jeepin_in_az
01-13-2005, 07:52 PM
An ideal set of tube doors, I.M.H.O., would be lined in heavy plastic, a map pocket on the inside, and levers to contact the light switches. That way the lights and alarm would work as well! :D
I just unplug my fuse for the door light pin, alarm still works, and light goes on after I shut off the engine, for about 10 seconds. I can use the dial on the turn switch to turn the light on at anytime...
But I know what you mean. I also have to think of pricing. I want to try and keep prices down, and adding plastic and map pockets are easy enough, but it would drive the price up.
Adding all that stuff takes away from the tube door thought...
jeepin_in_az
01-13-2005, 07:53 PM
I am thinking tube fenders too....:D
Anyone?
Griswold
01-13-2005, 08:05 PM
I'd buy a good tube fender.
Joe West
01-13-2005, 08:05 PM
Mike,
The steps I use on my rig seem to be pretty popular... but they are really a bit too small. Can you come up with some bolt on side steps (maybe twice the size or so of the ones on my rig) that fold up? I have my current ones mounted to both my rocker guards and my rear corner guards.
If you make them fit my existing hole pattern, I'd love to replace my steps with something a bit larger. I'll bet there are a few people out there who would be interested.
Joe
redwlf1971
01-13-2005, 09:05 PM
I am thinking tube fenders too....:D
Anyone?
Me and BRUZR (BRUZR NEEDS them!!!) like tube fenders. :D
Ill buy a cage kit from you and when the time comes I want fenders too....you can keep my YJ there as long as you need it as a Ginne pig Practice all you want on it. I won't have any time till i Build my Shop whenever that will be. :confused: oh yea how about front shock hoops with a Cross over engien support.....
Better get that Bender :cool:
Wind_Danzer
01-13-2005, 09:27 PM
GRRRR... not fair the guy who starts the thread suggests the one thing I was going to suggest. :mad: :D Damn work got in the way of me surfing again... ;) :p
How did that plastic t-case skid come out?
How about some sort of spare tire holder that goes in the tub and/or a swing up rack that attaches to the roll bar behind the driver/passenger seat that adds storage but allows you to get into the back area...
Something like this:
http://www.4x4products.com/images/907inuse.jpg
Maybe have it made well enough to hold a 35 inch spare so I... er, someone that orders it can use the back as storage underneath. *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*
Thing is, it still has to be possible to run a duster cover. ;)
jeepin_in_az
01-14-2005, 09:24 AM
The door idea is an excellent idea. Problem is. You need to get yourself a tube bender. Then you can start building cages too. :D
I'd gladly be your ginnie pig. :D
Hey Bruce,
Since you are the first one to mention a bender, you get to buy it for me! :D :eek:
jeepin_in_az
01-14-2005, 09:30 AM
Joe - Where did you get the steps? Do you have an extra one laying around?
Qman - When the time comes, you will be first in line to ask for a YJ.
Wind_Danzer - What were you thinking? Tube fenders? Plastic skid got put on the side for now, it was going on my Jeep, but customers come first! The rear rack ( :eek: ) would be cool, but that is on a YJ, and he has the rear roll bar coming down at an angle. It would have to be custom on a TJ...but I could still do it, somehow.
Looks like tube fenders and tube doors are on the high list....
Wind_Danzer
01-14-2005, 11:20 AM
Wind_Danzer - What were you thinking? Tube fenders? Plastic skid got put on the side for now, it was going on my Jeep, but customers come first! The rear rack ( :eek: ) would be cool, but that is on a YJ, and he has the rear roll bar coming down at an angle. It would have to be custom on a TJ...but I could still do it, somehow.
Looks like tube fenders and tube doors are on the high list....
Yea, I was thinking tube fenders. ;)
I'm sure you could think of something, that's why my TJ could be the guinea pig. :D :p
I've got some ideas I got thinking about last night about the rack idea after I posted but too much to type out here, if you are interested, let me know.
jeepin_in_az
01-14-2005, 12:34 PM
Yea, I was thinking tube fenders. ;)
I'm sure you could think of something, that's why my TJ could be the guinea pig. :D :p
I've got some ideas I got thinking about last night about the rack idea after I posted but too much to type out here, if you are interested, let me know.
Shoot me your ideas in e-mail....I am always interested in ideas!
mike@simplyoffroad.com
Wind_Danzer
01-14-2005, 12:39 PM
I'll mail you sometime next week. :) Work is going to be calling soon and I need to get ready.
OlneyJeeps
01-14-2005, 12:47 PM
Pre-formed plastic or aluminum/steel diamond plate rocker protection for XJ and/or ZJ (like to cover up $1300 damage someone :rolleyes: might have done to his wife's formerly super pretty grocery getter while taking sceinc rout/trying to save the $25 entry charge to Grand Canyon)
corners for CJ/YJ/TJ are really inexpensive to make as well
BRUZR
01-14-2005, 01:03 PM
Looks like tube fenders and tube doors are on the high list....
I'd be honored to have BRUZR go under the bender/welder/knife in the interest of R&D... Heck, my front fenders are already cut flat. It would be easier to take measurements... :D
phoen1c1an
01-14-2005, 01:45 PM
You could fab up some CB racks :)
jeepin_in_az
01-14-2005, 02:23 PM
You could fab up some CB racks :)
For what? Where do you want it mounted?
I already did one from Bruce, aka. jeep4offroad
phoen1c1an
01-14-2005, 02:23 PM
Overhead preferably, but out of the way. Most of the ones I've seen are in the way of your head.
jeepin_in_az
01-14-2005, 02:24 PM
Pre-formed plastic or aluminum/steel diamond plate rocker protection for XJ and/or ZJ (like to cover up $1300 damage someone :rolleyes: might have done to his wife's formerly super pretty grocery getter while taking sceinc rout/trying to save the $25 entry charge to Grand Canyon)
corners for CJ/YJ/TJ are really inexpensive to make as well
Kinda like this?
http://www.simplyoffroad.com/images/xjrocker6.jpg
jeepin_in_az
01-14-2005, 02:25 PM
Overhead preferably, but out of the way. Most of the ones I've seen are in the way of your head.
I can see if Bruce can snap a pic of his...but he has spreader bars that it attaches to.
jeep4offrd
01-14-2005, 04:18 PM
Overhead preferably, but out of the way. Most of the ones I've seen are in the way of your head.
Heres a link to a couple pics to give you an idea of what mikes cb mount does. Basicly. The cb slides into the mount, and bolts to it at both side mounting points. Then the mounting bracket bolts to the top of your spreader bars. Nice tight fit, that insures that the cb cant move around, at all! And the whole unit sits up inside the spreader bars. To insure it doesnt come in contact with your head. Which is the reason I had him make me up one. I smacked my head constantly getting into my jeep. Which might partly explain my brain damage. :cool:
Just take your cb and jeep over to mike and he'll measure up an awesome mount.
Bruce
http://groups.msn.com/CBMount/shoebox.msnw?Page=Last
blackeyedt
01-14-2005, 05:20 PM
On that vien, how about a TJ/YJ front roll bar type similar to TBT and others, with spreaders/CB Mount? The pricing seems way high on "main brands".. Or am I just a cheap SO* ? :o
jeepin_in_az
01-14-2005, 07:55 PM
On that vien, how about a TJ/YJ front roll bar type similar to TBT and others, with spreaders/CB Mount? The pricing seems way high on "main brands".. Or am I just a cheap SO* ? :o
This will be hard to explain with out someone getting butthurt, but this is MY OWN OPINION on "Sport Cages"...
I will not do a bolt in sport cage. I do not think it is stronge enough by bolting spreaders in, and bolting it to the dash. I don't like the way they use the dash as a support. You need a full piece going to the floor and not an add in bolt on piece.
Yes, I have seen the video of someone rolling with a local companies sport cage. It worked in that instance. I have seen some other violent rolls that a sport cage would not have helped at all.
There are only 3 choices here:
1. No cage and pray like hell you never roll.
2. Sport cage, and pray like hell you only have a small roll on a small trail.
3. Full cage.
If you can't afford a full cage at this time, you would be better off with a sport cage than nothing at all.
Again, these are MY OPINIONS, others have thiers, and they are more than welcome to them, but don't start a flame war or argument and try to convince me that a sport cage is worth the extra $200-$400 savings from a full cage.
OlneyJeeps
01-14-2005, 08:27 PM
Kinda like this?
http://www.simplyoffroad.com/images/xjrocker6.jpg
More like this :eek:
blackeyedt
01-14-2005, 09:02 PM
I think you put that very well ! A "Sport Cage" bolted to the Dash would not be as strong as a full cage bolted thru the floor, to the frame (or welded).. Most that I have seen are bolted to the edge of the tub (side of firewall area). The better ones have a steel bar welded between the two uprights, parellel to the dash, right above the dash. Let's not forget that a rollover, any rollover, is a violent accident with the potential for serious injury/death.
I think that there are degrees of protection, and anything is better than nothing ! I respect your decision to not produce a product you do not believe in ! I also think that "legroom" (already at a minimum in a TJ/YJ/CJ) could be a major factor in a persons' decision to not install a full cage, especially in a daily driver. That being said, I think there is a market for the "sport cages" and that they are beneficial, to a degree...
I'm not trying to dispute your previous post in any way, just adding my opinion to it ! :D
oh yea and i really want Square Tube Fenders what do you need to bend that?
jeepin_in_az
01-15-2005, 07:06 AM
oh yea and i really want Square Tube Fenders what do you need to bend that?
Square tube die. Die's cost on the average of $200-$300.
jeepin_in_az
01-15-2005, 07:09 AM
I think you put that very well ! A "Sport Cage" bolted to the Dash would not be as strong as a full cage bolted thru the floor, to the frame (or welded).. Most that I have seen are bolted to the edge of the tub (side of firewall area). The better ones have a steel bar welded between the two uprights, parellel to the dash, right above the dash. Let's not forget that a rollover, any rollover, is a violent accident with the potential for serious injury/death.
I think that there are degrees of protection, and anything is better than nothing ! I respect your decision to not produce a product you do not believe in ! I also think that "legroom" (already at a minimum in a TJ/YJ/CJ) could be a major factor in a persons' decision to not install a full cage, especially in a daily driver. That being said, I think there is a market for the "sport cages" and that they are beneficial, to a degree...
I'm not trying to dispute your previous post in any way, just adding my opinion to it ! :D
I am 6'1", and I have not hit my self on my cage. It goes through the dash. This is my daily driver too!
How much are TBT sport cages?
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=526
DsrtJeeper
01-15-2005, 08:38 AM
This will be hard to explain with out someone getting butthurt, but this is MY OWN OPINION on "Sport Cages"...
I will not do a bolt in sport cage. I do not think it is stronge enough by bolting spreaders in, and bolting it to the dash. I don't like the way they use the dash as a support. You need a full piece going to the floor and not an add in bolt on piece.
Yes, I have seen the video of someone rolling with a local companies sport cage. It worked in that instance. I have seen some other violent rolls that a sport cage would not have helped at all.
There are only 3 choices here:
1. No cage and pray like hell you never roll.
2. Sport cage, and pray like hell you only have a small roll on a small trail.
3. Full cage.
If you can't afford a full cage at this time, you would be better off with a sport cage than nothing at all.
Again, these are MY OPINIONS, others have thiers, and they are more than welcome to them, but don't start a flame war or argument and try to convince me that a sport cage is worth the extra $200-$400 savings from a full cage.
There is no doubt in my mind that a weld in full cage will be the strongest when built correctly. Putting that aside; the bolt in "sport cages" do work. This has been proven time and time again; thus the big market for them. I assume the roll you speak of is Tracy's roll in Moab? It doesn't get much more violent than that unless you fall off a cliff. By the way; Tracy's Jeep sits in Troy's shop and will soon be wheeling again. Ask the people who have survived a bad roll what their opinion is of a bolt in cage. ;) Tracy went on to wheel the rest of the week. :) Also; Frog tested his out last season while rolling backwards down "High Dive" at Moab. Do a search on JU and you'll see plenty of testimonies whether it be Poison Spyder's cage or OR Fab's.
It would be nice if Mike could build an affordable weld in cage. With the current steel prices; it wouldn't be easy.
DsrtJeeper
01-15-2005, 08:43 AM
I will not do a bolt in sport cage.
Mike;
Please tell me those aren't bolts on the outside bars where they attach to the hoop. :eek: :D
Good eyes dsrtjeeper. it looks like a bolt on to me.. but i would still rather Weld it in fully but have the front hoops attached to the A piller. i can imagine if i did have a pretty violent rollover the attachment to the A piller can cause a lot more damage to the Tub but i think it would still be a safe place
MIKE,
maybe i can get a few Radius of Square tube bent for me and have you do the Rest. then again if i get it that far i could do the rest myself.....
anyone know were to get Square tube Bent....its hip to be square....
SHNIPE
01-15-2005, 10:14 AM
Ask joe. Hes got square tube fenders that look absolutely sick! :eek:
http://www.flatfendertj.com/Modifications/flat16.jpg
http://www.flatfendertj.com/Modifications/flat6.jpg
blackeyedt
01-15-2005, 11:25 AM
OK ! I'm 5'7", fat, and not incredibly coordinated and I have cracked myself on full cage "legs" that came down in front of the dash ! ... How about making a nice big hood ornament? Maybe a big duck w/spread wings made out of green plastic? :D Maybe we can all agree on that ? Mike, can you make it to the freeway opening deal next Saturday? I would like to see that cage, I didn't know you could go straight thru the dash like that.... It would help w/legroom.... I think the TBT one is about 6 bills with all the pieces you need, maybe even closer to 650...
jeepin_in_az
01-15-2005, 11:37 AM
Mike;
Please tell me those aren't bolts on the outside bars where they attach to the hoop. :eek: :D
For the time being yes they are. :D (damn you saw that!) I am not fully done with the cage, there are a few things I want to add to it, and I wanted the option of pulling out the rear and making a new one.
jeepin_in_az
01-15-2005, 11:38 AM
OK ! I'm 5'7", fat, and not incredibly coordinated and I have cracked myself on full cage "legs" that came down in front of the dash ! ... How about making a nice big hood ornament? Maybe a big duck w/spread wings made out of green plastic? :D Maybe we can all agree on that ? Mike, can you make it to the freeway opening deal next Saturday? I would like to see that cage, I didn't know you could go straight thru the dash like that.... It would help w/legroom.... I think the TBT one is about 6 bills with all the pieces you need, maybe even closer to 650...
I think I am going to the freeway opening, just depends on how much work I get done today and tomorrow.
So JOE were did you get those Bent?????? i want a little tighter Radius though. Flater in the Front. But Exactly what i am looking for..
DsrtJeeper
01-16-2005, 10:31 AM
Ask joe. Hes got square tube fenders that look absolutely sick! :eek:
http://www.flatfendertj.com/Modifications/flat16.jpg
http://www.flatfendertj.com/Modifications/flat6.jpg
My gawd!!! Does that thing ever get wheeled!? :D
blackeyedt
01-16-2005, 10:41 AM
Who knows, but he certainly had some nice eyecandy on the hood on the cover of last months Blue Press (Dillons Mag)
DsrtJeeper
01-16-2005, 10:50 AM
Who knows, but he certainly had some nice eyecandy on the hood on the cover of last months Blue Press (Dillons Mag)
Pics please..... :D
blackeyedt
01-16-2005, 10:59 AM
I've just got the mag. I bet Joe would post'em up if we asked him nice !
SHNIPE
01-16-2005, 12:59 PM
http://www.r6messagenet.com/forums/images/smilies/threadjacked.gif
Dunno HOW in the world you guys missed that one!!!! heres the pics and link to the thread with the new jeep accessory!! :D
Thread Link (http://flatfendertj.com/showthread.php?t=6732)
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=562&stc=1
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=563&stc=1
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=567&stc=1
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=568&stc=1
katvans
01-16-2005, 06:12 PM
:D :D :D
Look, the botton of Joe's tires are dirty. Is that his chopper also. SWEET
Rich
Joe West
01-17-2005, 05:39 AM
Hi Mike,
I got them at Arizona Safety Supply on Buckeye and roughly 25th avenue (north side of Buckeye road between 19th and 35th ave)
You can search the archive and find posts related to these steps... they are relatively inexpensive if you need to purchase one as a template. If you do decide to make these, I'd like to show you what I have in mind.
Joe
Joe - Where did you get the steps? Do you have an extra one laying around?
NVRSTUKXJ
01-17-2005, 09:41 AM
still waiting on rear bumper/carrier for XJ's.......but then you knew that, so I'll just have some brownies.......
NVRSTUKXJ
01-17-2005, 09:43 AM
also......why don't you guys start puttin' some of your stuff (i.e. halos, plastic panels, etc.) on ebay......I have a gift certificate for ebay that I'd like to use, but I also want some of your panels........
jeepin_in_az
01-17-2005, 11:15 AM
I tried putting a Halo on E-bay, and only had 3 bids, for a grand total of $28.00. I put the reserve on it, and only put it at $50, just to test the waters.
I prob worded it wrong to sell. Oh well...maybe next time.
Ya, I know about the XJ bumpers...:D
jeepin_in_az
01-17-2005, 11:19 AM
Ok guys, I am going to get a bender very soon, hopefully within 2 weeks!
For the guinea pigs:
You need to be able to come to Chandler a few times for measurements, fittings, etc. and be able to leave it there for a few hours.
I have a TJ, so I will NOT need a pig for TJ doors, but may use one for the TJ tube fenders.
If you have a wild idea, make sure you have it scetched out, rough measurements taken before hand so I know what materials to use, and how much to use. I do have steel in stock, but not round, YET! :D
Keep tuned for guinea pigs!
phoen1c1an
01-17-2005, 12:06 PM
Lucky bastards.
like i said mine will be ready whenever you need it. Just have to put the Vibration Dampner on.... Stupid thing cost $238.00. gives me insentive to go get it....
Come on JOE is your SQUARE TUBE BENDER a secret.... give it up, i need to get them Bent up.... :confused:
k7mto
01-17-2005, 01:14 PM
Joe's fender isn't a "square tube" fender, rather flat steel fender with a flat steel edge...
http://www.flatfendertj.com/Modifications/flatfender.htm
"First, I went down to four wheelers supply in Phoenix and measured/traced the curvature of the front fender on a flat fender they had sitting on the lot. Armed with the measurements and the tracings I created a cardboard cutout of the curve. I then layed this cutout on my fenders and traced it with a permanent marker. Then I got out my handy Dremel tool and went to work cutting out the curves on the front fenders. After cutting away all the leading edge material and the proper curves on the top of the fenders, I had a body shop weld a flat strip of metal along the leading edge of the fenders to follow the cutout I made."
So his is as close to the true flat fender design as you can get, but a square tube design would certainly be more resiliant for those of us who actually wheel our rigs ;)
danno
01-17-2005, 01:20 PM
I have an idea for some tube fenders that basically combines the PSC flat fenders with the shape of the hood from 4 wheeler's supply. The best of both worlds, tube fenders with extra clearance for larger tires.
danno
01-17-2005, 01:35 PM
Also,
You ought to think about making these as well...
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=730&stc=1
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=731&stc=1
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=732&stc=1
http://www.virtualjeepclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=733&stc=1
I have one... It not only protects my differential, but also protects my tie rod. It can keep the tie rod from bending not only from direct impacts, but it also supports it if the tie rod is trying to bend down from sudden wheel force.
It has helped me slide over rocks, where before they would have stopped me or required the use of momentum to break over the rock. The unit has held up and shows no signs of wear other than bare metal from rocks removing the paint.
Linda
01-18-2005, 07:50 AM
I need a slider with a nylon or greasable bronze bushing for a traction bar application. It needs to have least 2 inches of travel, be able to rotate at least 180-degress, and be sealed to keep out dirt and water. Not sure of the diameter needed yet. :D
Wind_Danzer
01-18-2005, 11:38 AM
Is that diff cover the "Buttface" or somethign along that line. I've liked the looks of those a while back and I see it's usefulness. :)
Very cool!!!!
I'll be writing out my ideas on Thursday for the rack. :)
danno
01-18-2005, 02:27 PM
Is that diff cover the "Buttface" or somethign along that line. I've liked the looks of those a while back and I see it's usefulness. :)
Very cool!!!!
I'll be writing out my ideas on Thursday for the rack. :)
Yes it is the "Buttface". I know the guy who makes them in TX, great product but he really has not taken advantage of how well this product could sell. He makes them one at a time and sells them out of his shop in Dallas.
BRUZR
01-18-2005, 03:03 PM
Yes it is the "Buttface". I know the guy who makes them in TX, great product but he really has not taken advantage of how well this product could sell. He makes them one at a time and sells them out of his shop in Dallas.
It looks like it would hang the tie rod at extreme travel... Does it?
danno
01-19-2005, 08:11 AM
It looks like it would hang the tie rod at extreme travel... Does it?
Given the geometry of the stock TJ suspension, the tie rod can move up and down a bit. The only time that it really moves down is when the passenger side wheel is stuffed in the wheelwell.
The tierod does not contact the top of the skidplate on my Jeep.
In the case where you have a steering conversion like Toys by Troy, the tierod should never move up and down.
ChrisK
01-19-2005, 11:17 AM
For the guinea pigs:
You need to be able to come to Chandler a few times for measurements, fittings, etc. and be able to leave it there for a few hours.
Mike,
If you ever need a non-daily driver TJ for fitment purposes that needs to stay a day or two, I know a guy that lives less than a mile from you that never drives his TJ.
jeepin_in_az
01-19-2005, 11:27 AM
Mike,
If you ever need a non-daily driver TJ for fitment purposes that needs to stay a day or two, I know a guy that lives less than a mile from you that never drives his TJ.
Ya, I met that guy once......:D
But you already have everything on there one could want. :D....unless I can chop up those pretty front fenders of yours.. :eek: :D
BRUZR
01-19-2005, 12:51 PM
Ya, I met that guy once......:D
But you already have everything on there one could want. :D....unless I can chop up those pretty front fenders of yours.. :eek: :D
I can take vacation (or come out for a weekend...) so you can have mine (with the fenders already chopped...) anytime. :D
ChrisK
01-19-2005, 02:44 PM
Ya, I met that guy once......:D
But you already have everything on there one could want. :D....unless I can chop up those pretty front fenders of yours.. :eek: :D
hmmmmm...........
Joe West
01-19-2005, 05:22 PM
Hey!
I live further away than that!!!
:D
Mike,
If you ever need a non-daily driver TJ for fitment purposes that needs to stay a day or two, I know a guy that lives less than a mile from you that never drives his TJ.
Wind_Danzer
01-19-2005, 08:29 PM
Ohhh, I got another idea and I defanetly want to be the GP for this one!!! :D
Cross member for the tranny/t-case that will allow for a fully flat skid to be used.
My flat skid was shipped to AZ yesterday and I'm looking to get that one on at some point. :D
Here's a pic of a friend's Jeep that did this. I've written him about the specks and what he did so hopefully I'll hear from him sometime soon.
http://www.justaddrocks.com/Jeep_Modifications/images_tjsrock/DSCN5885.jpg
FlexyXJ
01-19-2005, 09:37 PM
Thats a cool Idea, Nice and tucked up outta da way. From that point fab up some skids and it would be awesome!! Build it mike. However, each one would have to be "semi" custom.
Joe
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Dave@desertfab.com
01-19-2005, 11:36 PM
Actually this could be fabbed to be bolt on..
Turtle
01-20-2005, 05:44 AM
From what I have read before... The only downfall to a COMPLETELY flat skid like so on a TJ is that it requires AT LEAST a 2" body lift. If you don't use the 2" body lift then you been to modify the tranny tunnel part of the body. I can't remember for sure but I think someone said once that even with the 2" BL he still had to cut out/reshape a good part of the body there.
Just my .02
Turtle
jeepin_in_az
01-20-2005, 06:41 AM
Thats a cool Idea, Nice and tucked up outta da way. From that point fab up some skids and it would be awesome!! Build it mike. However, each one would have to be "semi" custom.
Joe
Absolute Offroad 602-248-8949
Ya, I have already been messing with this idea...crossmember to hold the xfer case, pice of 3/16 flat plate with a 3/4" UHMV with a 35 degree edge....
Wind_Danzer
01-20-2005, 04:58 PM
From what I have read before... The only downfall to a COMPLETELY flat skid like so on a TJ is that it requires AT LEAST a 2" body lift. If you don't use the 2" body lift then you been to modify the tranny tunnel part of the body. I can't remember for sure but I think someone said once that even with the 2" BL he still had to cut out/reshape a good part of the body there.
Just my .02
Turtle
That guy I posted a picture of... I believe he's running a 1 and 1/2 inch BL and 1 and 1/2 inch MM to fit it. Not sure on the cutting. Still waiting to hear back from him. I'm all for beating the snot out of the tunnel to make it fit w/o going any higher in BL or MM if possible. :D
Payments are done, time to beat it up a little bit. ;) :D
jeepin_in_az
01-25-2005, 06:09 PM
Thanks for all of your input.
I will be picking up a new tube bender this week, so for those of you that replied for guinea pig status, I will be in contact!
Thanks again!
BobnJeep
01-28-2005, 07:15 AM
I heard that FSJ owners, and all leaf spring people, for that matter, can use Dodge p/u and Ramcharger U-Bolt Plates to do an U-Bolt Flip. The problem is the shock mount. I would like to do this to my '80 Waggy, and there is a setup idea on this link for an extra plate that will hold the shock. SOA (http://www.jeeptech.com/susp/ubolt.html)
Check it out and tell me if this is something you could do for me.
jeepin_in_az
01-28-2005, 07:22 AM
I heard that FSJ owners, and all leaf spring people, for that matter, can use Dodge p/u and Ramcharger U-Bolt Plates to do an SOA. The problem is the shock mount. I would like to do this to my '80 Waggy, and there is a setup idea on this link for an extra plate that will hold the shock.
Check it out and tell me if this is something you could do for me.
No linky...:D
jeepin_in_az
01-28-2005, 07:23 AM
Thanks for all of your input.
I will be picking up a new tube bender this week, so for those of you that replied for guinea pig status, I will be in contact!
Thanks again!
Bender WAS in stock last week when I went down there to get pricing. I called on Tuesday, and they were out of stock! Damn! So I have to wait until the new ones get built and shipped to them....
RufftyTuffty
03-08-2005, 11:32 AM
Gas tank skid...made of atleast 3/16" or idealy 1/4".
I believe that the ZJ & XJ are the same.
Got access to a HD metal brake?
~Mike
jeepin_in_az
03-08-2005, 11:39 AM
No access to a metal brake....
We are in the process of carrying a different companies skid. I will have to get the specs from Dave.
Mike
OlneyJeeps
03-08-2005, 09:24 PM
:eek: Ok , so it might be getting a little away from fully functional (usually appropriatly expensive) addons.... rocker panel covers.
I recently saw a set on my neighbors FS Waggy (were put on to cover rust holes). Made of rather thick stainless with 2or3 bends to conform to radius.
Stainless is rather resiliant, but more importantly provide a pseudo stylish cover to damage/wear. I am thinking primarily of my wife's formerly spotless/beautiful (yes I know, Jeeps aren't supposed to be that way) Grand Cherokee Limited that some gumba :rolleyes: used a stump to install some might pretty rock rash ( the crappy pound and mound repair from the dealer went to hell ). I now am perplexed: make it look like it was before (lots of $ and work to do right-removing crappy work of prior "bodyman"), install some ricking cool heavy duty gards (not appropriate at current point of grocery getter's life....wife would kill me), happy medium: pfoux rocker covers made of stanless or even aluminum /diamond plate painted to match: could be done relatively low $ and I think demand would be great for all the "wanna be's" (just look at how proud Rubicon owners are of the crap they get :eek: ).
JamesT
05-01-2005, 09:05 AM
Mike,
I sent you an idea to your simplyoffroad email account.
I need one, really bad. I might even make one myself if no one makes makes one already.
scully
05-03-2005, 08:30 AM
If your still looking for ideas, how about half or tube doors for ZJ's, or a rack for the back cargo area that you could mount a hi-lift jack and other things to.
Thanks
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