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Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 6:43pm
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11364 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 7:06pm
Subject: Re: Goodyear M/T's for sale
That'a a good price, but I don't think the warrantee is transferable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 8:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Goodyear M/T's for sale
> We've got 5 Goodyear M/T's for sale at $100 each with road hazard paper
work
> from Discount Tire. They are 35X12.50X15's with at least 90% tread left
on
> them. Anyone interested???
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> President
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
11365 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 7:17pm
Subject: Re: Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
I installed 31's with 3.07 gears and the 4.0 5spd and lost almost 2mpg and
lost power and didn't even need 5th gear anymore. So I installed 4.10 gears
and got the mileage back and better performance.....
----- Original Message -----
From: <biglowt@a...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 1:23 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
> Anyone have any experience.... I know that this topic has been discussed
> before.. I have the RE 2.5" Extreme lift. I was thinking of running 31s,
> but now I am thinking about 32s and a body lift. Would my Jeep suffer
much
> in driveability or gas mileage with the 3.07s, the auto, and the 32s?
Also,
> anyone know if there are any things needed to be done with a 2" body lift
> especially due to my automatic and air conditioning? Or would I be better
> off with a 1" and 31s or 32s? I desperately need help. As I can get 32s
for
> free off my suburban. Thanks, Tom Lowther
>
>
>
>
>
11366 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 7:21pm
Subject: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
Yes the 8.8 will even go to a 5.13 ratio
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@t...>
To: <hackle@u...>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
> Just a quick question, but do they use the same gear ratios as Jeep axles?
> If I put 4.56 in the front D30, would I be able to do the same in the 8.8?
>
> --
> Matt B.
> 94 YJ
> http://azjeeps.web.com
> Range Riders 4 Wheelers
> Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
>
>
>
11367 From: Rick Hall <rnhall@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 7:30pm
Subject: Re: Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that if you increase your gear ratio you will decrease your MPG equal to the percentage of the ratio change. Your low end performance/power will certainly increase but there's always a price.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: chiena
To: az_vjc@egroups.com ; biglowt@aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
I installed 31's with 3.07 gears and the 4.0 5spd and lost almost 2mpg and
lost power and didn't even need 5th gear anymore. So I installed 4.10 gears
and got the mileage back and better performance.....
----- Original Message -----
From: <biglowt@aol.com>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 1:23 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
> Anyone have any experience.... I know that this topic has been discussed
> before.. I have the RE 2.5" Extreme lift. I was thinking of running 31s,
> but now I am thinking about 32s and a body lift. Would my Jeep suffer
much
> in driveability or gas mileage with the 3.07s, the auto, and the 32s?
Also,
> anyone know if there are any things needed to be done with a 2" body lift
> especially due to my automatic and air conditioning? Or would I be better
> off with a 1" and 31s or 32s? I desperately need help. As I can get 32s
for
> free off my suburban. Thanks, Tom Lowther
>
>
>
>
>
11368 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 8:23pm
Subject: Re: TR ZJ on Terminator
I just called greg to his cell phone, after a 6 hr agony thinking he got a hurt on his face, he just told me the shin is near the knee. What a relief, I guess I need to learn some more vocabulary.
He will be fine, thanks god
----- Original Message -----
From: William Mish
To: AZ_VJC
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 3:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] TR ZJ on Terminator
The follow up trip to extricate the ZJ from Terminator took place Friday
night.
In attendance were myself, Bob Trenton, Joe Clarke, Ross Skinner with his
son Chris, and Greg Banfield.
We succeeded in cutting it up into 4 manageable pieces, And moving those
off to the side of the trail. We finished up at about 3:00am, so we didn't
make the attempt to remove the pieces from the trail yet. I took in a torch
set, Sawsall, generator, grinders, Portaband, extension cords and lights, 10
gallons of water for fire fighting, portable extinguishers etc. Ross ended
up twisting off a rear driveshaft and bending a rear spring, all of which we
repaired on the trail. That wasn't the only casualty, though. While
separating and moving the last 2 large body pieces, Greg lost his balance,
and fell forward into the twisted wreckage. He cut his shin on a piece of
jagged metal, over the top of a vein, which proceeded to bleed profusely. He
also ended up with small cuts and bruises to the underside of his arm and
torso, Ross administered first aid, Which of course, reduces Greg's chance
to live,..... ; )
A return trip will be necessary to get the pieces all out, I'm thinking
all the pieces could be dragged out by Jeeps, with the front piece being the
biggest challenge, since it has the motor and tranny in it.
It looks like this may be a new dumping ground for stolen burned cars,
as another turned up in the main wash by the sand and gravel outfit.
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
11369 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 8:40pm
Subject: Re: Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
You are only partially wrong. There reaches a point in tire size and
gearing that lower gears improve the milage because they put the engine
back into efficcent operating range. They also lower the strain on the
engine. Think of it this way If you are pulling a grade such that you
cannot keep from loosing speed without down shifting, how much easier
the engine works when you do down shift.
> Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that if you increase your gear
> ratio you will decrease your MPG equal to the percentage of
> the ratio change. Your low end performance/power will certainly increase but
> there's always a price.
Rick
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
11370 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:03pm
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
I currently have the trac-loc in rear and lockrite in front of my 99 xj and the setup works really well. It's amazing how much more you can do with the front pulling you. I would do the lock-right in front and save $ to do the rear later. I finally got the $$ and bought a no-slip only because I'm doing a gear change at the same time.
My opinion,
Erin
Glen wrote:
As anyone who was on teh FR42 run Saturday knows, it's time for
lockers. My TJ came with factory trac-loc. Should I just go for the
front (as Jon L. has suggested) or just suck it up. I also have a
disconnect issue and part of my "why am I in mid-air and not
climbing?" issue was because I couldn't get the other wheel down.
I'll fix the discons, but want to avoid what looks like 1500.00 in ft
and rr lockers. Fly-n-hi was talking about a front LockRite set for
like 300+ labor. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.........Glen
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11371 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:07pm
Subject: Re: Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
Yes you will notice a difference with 31's or 32's with that high a gear. It won't be horrible, but gas mileage will suffer and crawlability (I think I just made that word up) off-road will stink, especially having the auto. I have 3.55's w/33's and it's no fun with the auto. I just got my 4.56's to put in this weekend:)
Erin
biglowt@aol.com wrote:
Anyone have any experience.... I know that this topic has been discussed
before.. I have the RE 2.5" Extreme lift. I was thinking of running 31s,
but now I am thinking about 32s and a body lift. Would my Jeep suffer much
in driveability or gas mileage with the 3.07s, the auto, and the 32s? Also,
anyone know if there are any things needed to be done with a 2" body lift
especially due to my automatic and air conditioning? Or would I be better
off with a 1" and 31s or 32s? I desperately need help. As I can get 32s for
free off my suburban. Thanks, Tom Lowther
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11372 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
4 Wheelers was gonna charge me $250 per axle labor for gears and locker install.
Erin
Jay Eller wrote:
That price on the Lock Right seems really high by about $40 to $50. Check
with 4Wheeler's Supply. I could probably get you one for around $260. Not
sure what labor should run for the front install. $1500 for front and rear
installs including lockers?? Seems pretty high. Should be about $500 in
parts (if looking at Lock Rights front and rear) and then labor of about
$200 in the rear and maybe $300 in the front. About $1000 total.
Just my thoughts. Want us to do it??
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller
President
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
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11373 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:12pm
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
Oh, and remember 4 Wheelers gives 10% discount to club members. I talked with Barry down there, he was really nice and very helpful.
Erin
Roger Tomas wrote:
Glen,
I think it would be a perfectly acceptable strategy to put a locker in
the front only and try it out that way for a while. You can always do
a rear locker at a later time - I don't think there is really any advantage
to locking up both axles at the same time other than one less trip to the
shop. A front locker will definitely make a big difference. And you
won't have any negative characteristics in the rear by staying with the
Trac-loc. I think you might be able to find a cheaper price on that
Lockright, though. And you I know there are people in the club who have
installed lockers and who might help you install yours yourself.
As for the articulation thing, do you have some problem with the disconnects
or did you just not disconnect them because someone (I don't know who) expressed
concern about your disconnecting the sway bar? (Ok, it was me. But I said that
from the standpoint that if I had a new TJ, I would not want to bend up the
fenders. And I wasn't sure that you wouldn't stuff your fenders given your
lift and tire size and how well TJ's articulate with the sway bar disconnected.
So I chose to err on the safe side.) One advantage of your experience, though,
is that you now know a little more about the limits of your Jeep with the sway
bar connected.
I still stand by my suggestion of taking your Jeep out some place where you
can disconnect the sway bars and twist up the suspension in a more controlled
manner than an FR42 run just to make sure you don't stuff your fenders. That
way you can have a spotter check to see if your tires will stuff the fenders
before they actually stuff the fenders. If they do then you need either more
lift or something to limit the up-travel like bumpstop extension brackets.
By the way, during one stretch of the trail, John in the shiny new red TJ
with 35" tires was behind me and I heard his tires rub his fender flares
on more than one occasion. Hopefully, it was just the flares and not the
sheet metal.
-Roger
Glen wrote:
>
> As anyone who was on teh FR42 run Saturday knows, it's time for
> lockers. My TJ came with factory trac-loc. Should I just go for the
> front (as Jon L. has suggested) or just suck it up. I also have a
> disconnect issue and part of my "why am I in mid-air and not
> climbing?" issue was because I couldn't get the other wheel down.
> I'll fix the discons, but want to avoid what looks like 1500.00 in ft
> and rr lockers. Fly-n-hi was talking about a front LockRite set for
> like 300+ labor. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.........Glen
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11374 From: Dion & Paola <amstaff@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:33pm
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
Reply to: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
Hi Glen: You've gotten some pretty solid advice on both sides of the argument. I'm in a similar position with my YJ. After taking everything (including my finances) into account, I decided to rebuild my factory rear Trakloc ($55) and put a Lockrite in the front diff (~$250).
For me that's the best and performance and price combination. YMMV.
And take a chance on doing your own locker, particularly a Lockrite, which doesn't replace the carrier. Supposedly a straight-forward mod for an average wrencher. Save yourself some $$$ and learn your Jeep more intimately. Good luck.
Dion
>>From: "Glen " <gdavis@i...>
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
Thanks everyone for the insight, but i am still pondering the finances. I know J E E P....I get it. But what should locking this thing up run me?
Stu, are your commetns still valid considering the LSD I have (assuming it's wotrking propely) or did you miss that?
BTW, you guys are super. I posted a little question and received like 7 email responses. Sorry, busy day at the ofc adn I didn't respond to each, but I certainly DO appreciate it.
Glen
11375 From: Hal Loy <tucsonhal@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 10:03pm
Subject: Re: run? Chiva falls?
I don't think Chiva is too tough for open diff's, before I put my lockers in
I ran it several times, just pick your lines.
Hal Loy
Tucson Rough Riders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@e...
11376 From: Tim Naylor <tim.naylor@w...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 11:39pm
Subject: RE: Goodyear M/T's for sale
Yes, the warrantee's from Discount are transferable. I sold some BFG's, with
DT warrantees, to a friend and he got one of the tires replaced for free
right away. Are these MTR's or the old MT's ?
-----Original Message-----
From: chiena [mailto:chiena@e...]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:07 PM
To: Jay Eller
Cc: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Goodyear M/T's for sale
That'a a good price, but I don't think the warrantee is transferable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 8:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Goodyear M/T's for sale
> We've got 5 Goodyear M/T's for sale at $100 each with road hazard paper
work
> from Discount Tire. They are 35X12.50X15's with at least 90% tread left
on
> them. Anyone interested???
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> President
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
11377 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 0:44am
Subject: Re: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
But the question is will the D30 front go to 5.13 If so I am sold... I'd
do the swap as soon as I found an 8.8 with disks...
Dave
>From: "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
>To: "!Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>, "Matt Barker"
><azjeepnut@t...>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:21:37 -0700
>
> Yes the 8.8 will even go to a 5.13 ratio
>
>I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@t...>
>To: <hackle@u...>
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:37 AM
>Subject: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
>
>
> > Just a quick question, but do they use the same gear ratios as Jeep
>axles?
> > If I put 4.56 in the front D30, would I be able to do the same in the
>8.8?
> >
> > --
> > Matt B.
> > 94 YJ
> > http://azjeeps.web.com
> > Range Riders 4 Wheelers
> > Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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11378 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 2:25am
Subject: ATT:::White Tanks CLEAN UP!!!!! Date change...
DATE HAS CHANGED........ We will be able to have more people out there if
the date is changed due to the ASA4WDC quarterly meeting being the same
weekend.. I will inform you all on the progress..
I am currently working with Tammy Pike who is the OHV Manager for the State
Land Department. The Dates will be finalized in the next week or so.. Sorry
for any confusion.. if you need more info please feel free to contact me
Back Channel..
David.oboyle@b...
or Davidoboyle@h...
Thanks
Dave
Ps.. I need a few volenteers please let me know if you can help
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11379 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 2:29am
Subject: Off/Subject:ArizonaXJ website
I have updated the ArizonaXJ website if you are interested..
thanks
Dave
Http://ArizonaXJ.Rockcrawler.com
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11380 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 6:31am
Subject: Re: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
The lowest I've seen for the Dana 30 is 4.88 in standard rotation and
4.56 in reverse rotation.
david oboyle wrote:
>
> But the question is will the D30 front go to 5.13 If so I am sold... I'd
> do the swap as soon as I found an 8.8 with disks...
>
> Dave
>
> >From: "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
> >To: "!Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>, "Matt Barker"
> ><azjeepnut@t...>
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
> >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:21:37 -0700
> >
> > Yes the 8.8 will even go to a 5.13 ratio
> >
> >I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@t...>
> >To: <hackle@u...>
> >Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:37 AM
> >Subject: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
> >
> >
> > > Just a quick question, but do they use the same gear ratios as Jeep
> >axles?
> > > If I put 4.56 in the front D30, would I be able to do the same in the
> >8.8?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matt B.
> > > 94 YJ
> > > http://azjeeps.web.com
> > > Range Riders 4 Wheelers
> > > Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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11381 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:13am
Subject: 4bbl 390 Holley question...
I have a question, my carb works great while the Jeep is going almost straight up or down, but sometimes when it is really tip to a side, it dies. then its a pain to re-start it, I have to hit the starter for maybe 10 seconds till it starts again and seem like its flooded (some black smoke coming out of the exhaust)
Is there any way to improve the carburetor? I have the stock gas pump (mechanical) 4bbl intake on the 258 engine, btw works awesome!
thanks for any input
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
11382 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:11am
Subject: RE: 4bbl 390 Holley question...
What I did to mine was....on the two bowl vents (the 2 tubes that stick straight up) put 1/4" vent line over them and connect it with a vacuum "T" in the middle. then zip tie the vacuum "T" to the air cleaner stud. As high up as possible, with the 3rd part of the "T" sticking up. Then both bowls will breath out of the "T" but when you get vertical or sideways fuel won't spill back into the carb.
I would also run spring loaded needle valves. And run the float level down about a 1/4".
That is how I ran mine, Hope it helps.
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com [mailto:jchio@alloffroad.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 7:13 AM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] 4bbl 390 Holley question...
I have a question, my carb works great while the Jeep is going almost straight up or down, but sometimes when it is really tip to a side, it dies. then its a pain to re-start it, I have to hit the starter for maybe 10 seconds till it starts again and seem like its flooded (some black smoke coming out of the exhaust)
Is there any way to improve the carburetor? I have the stock gas pump (mechanical) 4bbl intake on the 258 engine, btw works awesome!
thanks for any input
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
11383 From: Linda Luik <linda.luik@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:34am
Subject: Re: [TR] Fund Raiser
After the short discussion about fund raising by the AZVJC. And reading
Chris' description about what it takes to get car show organized and
knowing what it takes to organize a 4-wheeling event like the Jamboree,
etc. I have another suggestion. Why not proclaim a month to be a fund
raising month. Ask for donations at trail rides that take place during
that month. The only logistic that has to be worked out is who will the
'banker'. I have done evening trail ride as land use fund fund raiser on
National Trails Day (first weekend in June) for the last two years. The
first year I collected $36. This year I collected $56. The check will be
presented at the ASA4WDC Quarterly Delegates Meeting on August 19.
Linda
Mike & Anita Chatfield wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Many of the OHV clubs have some kind of annual fund raiser. For these
> clubs, the funds are used to offset the cost of stickers, t-shirts,
> etc. Also these clubs, many times, support charities and give money
> to organizations like ASA4WDC and United. A few examples:
>
> The Back Country 4x4 club in Panama (US Militiary club) annually
> opens a haunted house to the public. Each year, they raise more than
> $3000 in just a few nights (ticket sales, "I survived Frank's Castle"
> T-Shirts, hotdog and soda sales, etc) They use this money to buy
> books and toys for a village in the jungle for Christmas; getting
> there and back requires the use of 4WD so this becomes thier
> "Christmas Run." The money generated from the haunted house is also
> used to pay for the electric bill, as they have an actual "Club
> House."
>
> The Rough Riders have thier Spook Ralley, some of the proceeds from
> that goto United and ASA4WDC and other charities the club votes on.
> The Phoenix 4 Wheelers have thier Round Up. Tucson Rough Riders have
> thier annual Trail Dust Days event. Copperstate has a Coyote Rodeo.
>
> With the size of our organization, we have the manpower and resources
> to have our own fund raiser. We just need a good idea, a place and
> volunteers to make it happen. The majority of the funds generated
> can be sent to ASA4WDC and United to help keep our Public Lands
> Public. A small amount can be set aside to pay for t-shirts, hats
> and stickers; members will still be required to buy these items, but
> at least the initial cost will not be coming from someone's pocket.
>
> Another thing to note is this gives us the opportunity to educate the
> public, and new OHV enthusiast about our sport, Tread Lightly, the
> Environment, Acceptable use, etc. Done properly, this could generate
> positive Public Relations for the OHV community. I also think we
> could use this as an opportunity to bring the OHV community together
> (4x4's, Motorcycles, ATV's, etc...)
>
> August and September are too close, October is a pretty booked month:
> Trail Dust Days, ASA Jamboree, and Spook Ralley. November is not
> much better with the Coyote Rodeo, ASA Delegates meeting, and
> Thanksgiving. December's busy enough with Christmas. March/April is
> the P4W Round-Up and May - August are to hot for a good turn-out.
> January and February look to be the best months to do something,
> which gives us plenty of time to get going.
>
> If there is enough interest, then what we need are ideas. What to
> do, when and where to do it. I think something Original would be
> best. There needs to be something for everyone: Stock Vehicles,
> Modified Vehicles, Vehicles that no longer resemble anything that
> originated from a factory, Adults, Children, Singles, Couples,
> Families, etc... Given the best time frame (Jan/Feb) maybe something
> that deals with Valentine's Day.
>
> Ideas:
> - Something to do with Valentine's Day (weekend before/after)
> - Something to do with the New Year
> - OHV Carnival
>
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11384 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:30am
Subject: Re: Goodyear M/T's for sale
Old M/Ts
--
----------------------------
Jay Eller
President
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
Tim Naylor wrote:
> Yes, the warrantee's from Discount are transferable. I sold some BFG's, with
> DT warrantees, to a friend and he got one of the tires replaced for free
> right away. Are these MTR's or the old MT's ?
11385 From: Linda Luik <linda.luik@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:38am
Subject: Re: Photos of Miner's Revenge 8/6/00
Who owns the jeep with the shark teeth paint job? Cool!
Linda
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11386 From: Mike Anderson <msa12171@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:34am
Subject: SYE & Driveshaft price?
Anyone know a great deal on a SYE and CV driveshaft? Jay??? TIA.
Mike
11387 From: Mike Anderson <msa12171@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:36am
Subject: TJ Front Sway Bar?
Anyone have a spare front swaybar for a TJ? Mine dissappeared.
Thanks...
Mike
11363 From: <deslug@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 6:43pm
Subject: Photos of Miner's Revenge 8/6/00
Greetings!
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11364 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 7:06pm
Subject: Re: Goodyear M/T's for sale
That'a a good price, but I don't think the warrantee is transferable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 8:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Goodyear M/T's for sale
> We've got 5 Goodyear M/T's for sale at $100 each with road hazard paper
work
> from Discount Tire. They are 35X12.50X15's with at least 90% tread left
on
> them. Anyone interested???
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> President
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
11365 From: chiena <chiena@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 7:17pm
Subject: Re: Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
I installed 31's with 3.07 gears and the 4.0 5spd and lost almost 2mpg and
lost power and didn't even need 5th gear anymore. So I installed 4.10 gears
and got the mileage back and better performance.....
----- Original Message -----
From: <biglowt@a...>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 1:23 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
> Anyone have any experience.... I know that this topic has been discussed
> before.. I have the RE 2.5" Extreme lift. I was thinking of running 31s,
> but now I am thinking about 32s and a body lift. Would my Jeep suffer
much
> in driveability or gas mileage with the 3.07s, the auto, and the 32s?
Also,
> anyone know if there are any things needed to be done with a 2" body lift
> especially due to my automatic and air conditioning? Or would I be better
> off with a 1" and 31s or 32s? I desperately need help. As I can get 32s
for
> free off my suburban. Thanks, Tom Lowther
>
>
>
>
>
11366 From: Hackle <hackle@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 7:21pm
Subject: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
Yes the 8.8 will even go to a 5.13 ratio
I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@t...>
To: <hackle@u...>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
> Just a quick question, but do they use the same gear ratios as Jeep axles?
> If I put 4.56 in the front D30, would I be able to do the same in the 8.8?
>
> --
> Matt B.
> 94 YJ
> http://azjeeps.web.com
> Range Riders 4 Wheelers
> Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
>
>
>
11367 From: Rick Hall <rnhall@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 7:30pm
Subject: Re: Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that if you increase your gear ratio you will decrease your MPG equal to the percentage of the ratio change. Your low end performance/power will certainly increase but there's always a price.
Rick
----- Original Message -----
From: chiena
To: az_vjc@egroups.com ; biglowt@aol.com
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
I installed 31's with 3.07 gears and the 4.0 5spd and lost almost 2mpg and
lost power and didn't even need 5th gear anymore. So I installed 4.10 gears
and got the mileage back and better performance.....
----- Original Message -----
From: <biglowt@aol.com>
To: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 1:23 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
> Anyone have any experience.... I know that this topic has been discussed
> before.. I have the RE 2.5" Extreme lift. I was thinking of running 31s,
> but now I am thinking about 32s and a body lift. Would my Jeep suffer
much
> in driveability or gas mileage with the 3.07s, the auto, and the 32s?
Also,
> anyone know if there are any things needed to be done with a 2" body lift
> especially due to my automatic and air conditioning? Or would I be better
> off with a 1" and 31s or 32s? I desperately need help. As I can get 32s
for
> free off my suburban. Thanks, Tom Lowther
>
>
>
>
>
11368 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 8:23pm
Subject: Re: TR ZJ on Terminator
I just called greg to his cell phone, after a 6 hr agony thinking he got a hurt on his face, he just told me the shin is near the knee. What a relief, I guess I need to learn some more vocabulary.
He will be fine, thanks god
----- Original Message -----
From: William Mish
To: AZ_VJC
Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 3:08 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] TR ZJ on Terminator
The follow up trip to extricate the ZJ from Terminator took place Friday
night.
In attendance were myself, Bob Trenton, Joe Clarke, Ross Skinner with his
son Chris, and Greg Banfield.
We succeeded in cutting it up into 4 manageable pieces, And moving those
off to the side of the trail. We finished up at about 3:00am, so we didn't
make the attempt to remove the pieces from the trail yet. I took in a torch
set, Sawsall, generator, grinders, Portaband, extension cords and lights, 10
gallons of water for fire fighting, portable extinguishers etc. Ross ended
up twisting off a rear driveshaft and bending a rear spring, all of which we
repaired on the trail. That wasn't the only casualty, though. While
separating and moving the last 2 large body pieces, Greg lost his balance,
and fell forward into the twisted wreckage. He cut his shin on a piece of
jagged metal, over the top of a vein, which proceeded to bleed profusely. He
also ended up with small cuts and bruises to the underside of his arm and
torso, Ross administered first aid, Which of course, reduces Greg's chance
to live,..... ; )
A return trip will be necessary to get the pieces all out, I'm thinking
all the pieces could be dragged out by Jeeps, with the front piece being the
biggest challenge, since it has the motor and tranny in it.
It looks like this may be a new dumping ground for stolen burned cars,
as another turned up in the main wash by the sand and gravel outfit.
Yldkat
1955 Willys CJ3B
http://drive.to/yldkat55
11369 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 8:40pm
Subject: Re: Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
You are only partially wrong. There reaches a point in tire size and
gearing that lower gears improve the milage because they put the engine
back into efficcent operating range. They also lower the strain on the
engine. Think of it this way If you are pulling a grade such that you
cannot keep from loosing speed without down shifting, how much easier
the engine works when you do down shift.
> Correct me if I'm wrong but my understanding is that if you increase your gear
> ratio you will decrease your MPG equal to the percentage of
> the ratio change. Your low end performance/power will certainly increase but
> there's always a price.
Rick
--
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find that they very rarely lose or fail.
11370 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:03pm
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
I currently have the trac-loc in rear and lockrite in front of my 99 xj and the setup works really well. It's amazing how much more you can do with the front pulling you. I would do the lock-right in front and save $ to do the rear later. I finally got the $$ and bought a no-slip only because I'm doing a gear change at the same time.
My opinion,
Erin
Glen wrote:
As anyone who was on teh FR42 run Saturday knows, it's time for
lockers. My TJ came with factory trac-loc. Should I just go for the
front (as Jon L. has suggested) or just suck it up. I also have a
disconnect issue and part of my "why am I in mid-air and not
climbing?" issue was because I couldn't get the other wheel down.
I'll fix the discons, but want to avoid what looks like 1500.00 in ft
and rr lockers. Fly-n-hi was talking about a front LockRite set for
like 300+ labor. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.........Glen
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11371 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:07pm
Subject: Re: Problems with 32s and 3.07 gears
Yes you will notice a difference with 31's or 32's with that high a gear. It won't be horrible, but gas mileage will suffer and crawlability (I think I just made that word up) off-road will stink, especially having the auto. I have 3.55's w/33's and it's no fun with the auto. I just got my 4.56's to put in this weekend:)
Erin
biglowt@aol.com wrote:
Anyone have any experience.... I know that this topic has been discussed
before.. I have the RE 2.5" Extreme lift. I was thinking of running 31s,
but now I am thinking about 32s and a body lift. Would my Jeep suffer much
in driveability or gas mileage with the 3.07s, the auto, and the 32s? Also,
anyone know if there are any things needed to be done with a 2" body lift
especially due to my automatic and air conditioning? Or would I be better
off with a 1" and 31s or 32s? I desperately need help. As I can get 32s for
free off my suburban. Thanks, Tom Lowther
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11372 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
4 Wheelers was gonna charge me $250 per axle labor for gears and locker install.
Erin
Jay Eller wrote:
That price on the Lock Right seems really high by about $40 to $50. Check
with 4Wheeler's Supply. I could probably get you one for around $260. Not
sure what labor should run for the front install. $1500 for front and rear
installs including lockers?? Seems pretty high. Should be about $500 in
parts (if looking at Lock Rights front and rear) and then labor of about
$200 in the rear and maybe $300 in the front. About $1000 total.
Just my thoughts. Want us to do it??
--
----------------------------
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http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
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11373 From: <eandkm@u...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:12pm
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
Oh, and remember 4 Wheelers gives 10% discount to club members. I talked with Barry down there, he was really nice and very helpful.
Erin
Roger Tomas wrote:
Glen,
I think it would be a perfectly acceptable strategy to put a locker in
the front only and try it out that way for a while. You can always do
a rear locker at a later time - I don't think there is really any advantage
to locking up both axles at the same time other than one less trip to the
shop. A front locker will definitely make a big difference. And you
won't have any negative characteristics in the rear by staying with the
Trac-loc. I think you might be able to find a cheaper price on that
Lockright, though. And you I know there are people in the club who have
installed lockers and who might help you install yours yourself.
As for the articulation thing, do you have some problem with the disconnects
or did you just not disconnect them because someone (I don't know who) expressed
concern about your disconnecting the sway bar? (Ok, it was me. But I said that
from the standpoint that if I had a new TJ, I would not want to bend up the
fenders. And I wasn't sure that you wouldn't stuff your fenders given your
lift and tire size and how well TJ's articulate with the sway bar disconnected.
So I chose to err on the safe side.) One advantage of your experience, though,
is that you now know a little more about the limits of your Jeep with the sway
bar connected.
I still stand by my suggestion of taking your Jeep out some place where you
can disconnect the sway bars and twist up the suspension in a more controlled
manner than an FR42 run just to make sure you don't stuff your fenders. That
way you can have a spotter check to see if your tires will stuff the fenders
before they actually stuff the fenders. If they do then you need either more
lift or something to limit the up-travel like bumpstop extension brackets.
By the way, during one stretch of the trail, John in the shiny new red TJ
with 35" tires was behind me and I heard his tires rub his fender flares
on more than one occasion. Hopefully, it was just the flares and not the
sheet metal.
-Roger
Glen wrote:
>
> As anyone who was on teh FR42 run Saturday knows, it's time for
> lockers. My TJ came with factory trac-loc. Should I just go for the
> front (as Jon L. has suggested) or just suck it up. I also have a
> disconnect issue and part of my "why am I in mid-air and not
> climbing?" issue was because I couldn't get the other wheel down.
> I'll fix the discons, but want to avoid what looks like 1500.00 in ft
> and rr lockers. Fly-n-hi was talking about a front LockRite set for
> like 300+ labor. Thoughts anyone? Thanks in advance.........Glen
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11374 From: Dion & Paola <amstaff@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 9:33pm
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
Reply to: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
Hi Glen: You've gotten some pretty solid advice on both sides of the argument. I'm in a similar position with my YJ. After taking everything (including my finances) into account, I decided to rebuild my factory rear Trakloc ($55) and put a Lockrite in the front diff (~$250).
For me that's the best and performance and price combination. YMMV.
And take a chance on doing your own locker, particularly a Lockrite, which doesn't replace the carrier. Supposedly a straight-forward mod for an average wrencher. Save yourself some $$$ and learn your Jeep more intimately. Good luck.
Dion
>>From: "Glen " <gdavis@i...>
Subject: Re: Looking for suggestions - 99TJ upgrades
Thanks everyone for the insight, but i am still pondering the finances. I know J E E P....I get it. But what should locking this thing up run me?
Stu, are your commetns still valid considering the LSD I have (assuming it's wotrking propely) or did you miss that?
BTW, you guys are super. I posted a little question and received like 7 email responses. Sorry, busy day at the ofc adn I didn't respond to each, but I certainly DO appreciate it.
Glen
11375 From: Hal Loy <tucsonhal@e...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 10:03pm
Subject: Re: run? Chiva falls?
I don't think Chiva is too tough for open diff's, before I put my lockers in
I ran it several times, just pick your lines.
Hal Loy
Tucson Rough Riders
AZ Virtual Jeep Club
ASA4WDC
tucsonhal@e...
11376 From: Tim Naylor <tim.naylor@w...>
Date: Mon Aug 7, 2000 11:39pm
Subject: RE: Goodyear M/T's for sale
Yes, the warrantee's from Discount are transferable. I sold some BFG's, with
DT warrantees, to a friend and he got one of the tires replaced for free
right away. Are these MTR's or the old MT's ?
-----Original Message-----
From: chiena [mailto:chiena@e...]
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:07 PM
To: Jay Eller
Cc: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Goodyear M/T's for sale
That'a a good price, but I don't think the warrantee is transferable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay Eller" <jay@t...>
Cc: <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 8:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Goodyear M/T's for sale
> We've got 5 Goodyear M/T's for sale at $100 each with road hazard paper
work
> from Discount Tire. They are 35X12.50X15's with at least 90% tread left
on
> them. Anyone interested???
> --
> ----------------------------
> Jay Eller
> President
> http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
11377 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 0:44am
Subject: Re: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
But the question is will the D30 front go to 5.13 If so I am sold... I'd
do the swap as soon as I found an 8.8 with disks...
Dave
>From: "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
>To: "!Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>, "Matt Barker"
><azjeepnut@t...>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
>Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:21:37 -0700
>
> Yes the 8.8 will even go to a 5.13 ratio
>
>I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@t...>
>To: <hackle@u...>
>Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:37 AM
>Subject: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
>
>
> > Just a quick question, but do they use the same gear ratios as Jeep
>axles?
> > If I put 4.56 in the front D30, would I be able to do the same in the
>8.8?
> >
> > --
> > Matt B.
> > 94 YJ
> > http://azjeeps.web.com
> > Range Riders 4 Wheelers
> > Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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11378 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 2:25am
Subject: ATT:::White Tanks CLEAN UP!!!!! Date change...
DATE HAS CHANGED........ We will be able to have more people out there if
the date is changed due to the ASA4WDC quarterly meeting being the same
weekend.. I will inform you all on the progress..
I am currently working with Tammy Pike who is the OHV Manager for the State
Land Department. The Dates will be finalized in the next week or so.. Sorry
for any confusion.. if you need more info please feel free to contact me
Back Channel..
David.oboyle@b...
or Davidoboyle@h...
Thanks
Dave
Ps.. I need a few volenteers please let me know if you can help
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11379 From: david oboyle <davidoboyle@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 2:29am
Subject: Off/Subject:ArizonaXJ website
I have updated the ArizonaXJ website if you are interested..
thanks
Dave
Http://ArizonaXJ.Rockcrawler.com
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11380 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 6:31am
Subject: Re: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
The lowest I've seen for the Dana 30 is 4.88 in standard rotation and
4.56 in reverse rotation.
david oboyle wrote:
>
> But the question is will the D30 front go to 5.13 If so I am sold... I'd
> do the swap as soon as I found an 8.8 with disks...
>
> Dave
>
> >From: "Hackle" <hackle@u...>
> >To: "!Jeep Club" <az_vjc@egroups.com>, "Matt Barker"
> ><azjeepnut@t...>
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
> >Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 19:21:37 -0700
> >
> > Yes the 8.8 will even go to a 5.13 ratio
> >
> >I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member!
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Matt Barker" <azjeepnut@t...>
> >To: <hackle@u...>
> >Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 7:37 AM
> >Subject: Re: Super 35 kit v. full floater?
> >
> >
> > > Just a quick question, but do they use the same gear ratios as Jeep
> >axles?
> > > If I put 4.56 in the front D30, would I be able to do the same in the
> >8.8?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Matt B.
> > > 94 YJ
> > > http://azjeeps.web.com
> > > Range Riders 4 Wheelers
> > > Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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11381 From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com <jchio@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:13am
Subject: 4bbl 390 Holley question...
I have a question, my carb works great while the Jeep is going almost straight up or down, but sometimes when it is really tip to a side, it dies. then its a pain to re-start it, I have to hit the starter for maybe 10 seconds till it starts again and seem like its flooded (some black smoke coming out of the exhaust)
Is there any way to improve the carburetor? I have the stock gas pump (mechanical) 4bbl intake on the 258 engine, btw works awesome!
thanks for any input
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
www.alloffroad.com/chio
11382 From: Blake Van de Loo <blake@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:11am
Subject: RE: 4bbl 390 Holley question...
What I did to mine was....on the two bowl vents (the 2 tubes that stick straight up) put 1/4" vent line over them and connect it with a vacuum "T" in the middle. then zip tie the vacuum "T" to the air cleaner stud. As high up as possible, with the 3rd part of the "T" sticking up. Then both bowls will breath out of the "T" but when you get vertical or sideways fuel won't spill back into the carb.
I would also run spring loaded needle valves. And run the float level down about a 1/4".
That is how I ran mine, Hope it helps.
Blake
-----Original Message-----
From: Jchio - Alloffroad.com [mailto:jchio@alloffroad.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2000 7:13 AM
To: AZ_VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] 4bbl 390 Holley question...
I have a question, my carb works great while the Jeep is going almost straight up or down, but sometimes when it is really tip to a side, it dies. then its a pain to re-start it, I have to hit the starter for maybe 10 seconds till it starts again and seem like its flooded (some black smoke coming out of the exhaust)
Is there any way to improve the carburetor? I have the stock gas pump (mechanical) 4bbl intake on the 258 engine, btw works awesome!
thanks for any input
Jesus Chio
www.alloffroad.com
Free webpages
http://signup.alloffroad.com
My Eb project
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11383 From: Linda Luik <linda.luik@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:34am
Subject: Re: [TR] Fund Raiser
After the short discussion about fund raising by the AZVJC. And reading
Chris' description about what it takes to get car show organized and
knowing what it takes to organize a 4-wheeling event like the Jamboree,
etc. I have another suggestion. Why not proclaim a month to be a fund
raising month. Ask for donations at trail rides that take place during
that month. The only logistic that has to be worked out is who will the
'banker'. I have done evening trail ride as land use fund fund raiser on
National Trails Day (first weekend in June) for the last two years. The
first year I collected $36. This year I collected $56. The check will be
presented at the ASA4WDC Quarterly Delegates Meeting on August 19.
Linda
Mike & Anita Chatfield wrote:
>
> All,
>
> Many of the OHV clubs have some kind of annual fund raiser. For these
> clubs, the funds are used to offset the cost of stickers, t-shirts,
> etc. Also these clubs, many times, support charities and give money
> to organizations like ASA4WDC and United. A few examples:
>
> The Back Country 4x4 club in Panama (US Militiary club) annually
> opens a haunted house to the public. Each year, they raise more than
> $3000 in just a few nights (ticket sales, "I survived Frank's Castle"
> T-Shirts, hotdog and soda sales, etc) They use this money to buy
> books and toys for a village in the jungle for Christmas; getting
> there and back requires the use of 4WD so this becomes thier
> "Christmas Run." The money generated from the haunted house is also
> used to pay for the electric bill, as they have an actual "Club
> House."
>
> The Rough Riders have thier Spook Ralley, some of the proceeds from
> that goto United and ASA4WDC and other charities the club votes on.
> The Phoenix 4 Wheelers have thier Round Up. Tucson Rough Riders have
> thier annual Trail Dust Days event. Copperstate has a Coyote Rodeo.
>
> With the size of our organization, we have the manpower and resources
> to have our own fund raiser. We just need a good idea, a place and
> volunteers to make it happen. The majority of the funds generated
> can be sent to ASA4WDC and United to help keep our Public Lands
> Public. A small amount can be set aside to pay for t-shirts, hats
> and stickers; members will still be required to buy these items, but
> at least the initial cost will not be coming from someone's pocket.
>
> Another thing to note is this gives us the opportunity to educate the
> public, and new OHV enthusiast about our sport, Tread Lightly, the
> Environment, Acceptable use, etc. Done properly, this could generate
> positive Public Relations for the OHV community. I also think we
> could use this as an opportunity to bring the OHV community together
> (4x4's, Motorcycles, ATV's, etc...)
>
> August and September are too close, October is a pretty booked month:
> Trail Dust Days, ASA Jamboree, and Spook Ralley. November is not
> much better with the Coyote Rodeo, ASA Delegates meeting, and
> Thanksgiving. December's busy enough with Christmas. March/April is
> the P4W Round-Up and May - August are to hot for a good turn-out.
> January and February look to be the best months to do something,
> which gives us plenty of time to get going.
>
> If there is enough interest, then what we need are ideas. What to
> do, when and where to do it. I think something Original would be
> best. There needs to be something for everyone: Stock Vehicles,
> Modified Vehicles, Vehicles that no longer resemble anything that
> originated from a factory, Adults, Children, Singles, Couples,
> Families, etc... Given the best time frame (Jan/Feb) maybe something
> that deals with Valentine's Day.
>
> Ideas:
> - Something to do with Valentine's Day (weekend before/after)
> - Something to do with the New Year
> - OHV Carnival
>
> Send in your idea's when we have enough to choose from, we'll have a
> couple of polls (one to narrow it down, and one to pick a winner.)
>
> - Mike Chatfield
>
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11384 From: Jay Eller <jay@t...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:30am
Subject: Re: Goodyear M/T's for sale
Old M/Ts
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Jay Eller
President
http://www.toyboxoffroad.com
Tim Naylor wrote:
> Yes, the warrantee's from Discount are transferable. I sold some BFG's, with
> DT warrantees, to a friend and he got one of the tires replaced for free
> right away. Are these MTR's or the old MT's ?
11385 From: Linda Luik <linda.luik@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:38am
Subject: Re: Photos of Miner's Revenge 8/6/00
Who owns the jeep with the shark teeth paint job? Cool!
Linda
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>
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11386 From: Mike Anderson <msa12171@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:34am
Subject: SYE & Driveshaft price?
Anyone know a great deal on a SYE and CV driveshaft? Jay??? TIA.
Mike
11387 From: Mike Anderson <msa12171@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 8, 2000 7:36am
Subject: TJ Front Sway Bar?
Anyone have a spare front swaybar for a TJ? Mine dissappeared.
Thanks...
Mike