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10blue-con
10-25-2011, 06:37 PM
Jack n chains
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10blue-con
10-25-2011, 06:42 PM
Now the bracing

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zjfabn
10-25-2011, 06:49 PM
That works.
How do you know when the tubes are straight?

10blue-con
10-25-2011, 07:48 PM
That works.
How do you know when the tubes are straight?

Jeff you use a 6 foot carpenters level to "eyeball" across the tubes. Then you preload it just a little bit over and weld on the bracing with the pre load applied (chains and jack still in place). You can use a carpenters level or a piece of straight 2x4 by 6 foot long or a tube or pipe. Anything straight to sight across and look at the axle tubes.

LO PHAT
10-25-2011, 08:10 PM
Wow, Tim! You didn't waste any time digging into this project, did you? I'm impressed...

10blue-con
10-25-2011, 08:27 PM
Thats not my axle, It's what can be done. I gotta do what I gotta do, I have a bent axle and I gotta figure a way to fix it. Tim

Jared
10-25-2011, 08:36 PM
Well now I know how to straighten an axle. It's pretty awesome

10blue-con
10-25-2011, 08:42 PM
Jus tryin to help, myself and others as well.

Tim :bandana:

LO PHAT
10-25-2011, 08:51 PM
Thats not my axle, It's what can be done. I gotta do what I gotta do, I have a bent axle and I gotta figure a way to fix it. Tim

OK ... That makes a lot more sense! :laugh2:

OlneyJeeps
10-25-2011, 08:59 PM
curious how you welded to the housing

10blue-con
10-25-2011, 09:09 PM
curious how you welded to the housing

Not my axle, jus a show of how mine CAN be fixed. I'm gonna have to do sumthin soon. Tim :bandana:

zjfabn
10-25-2011, 09:24 PM
curious how you welded to the housing

Here we go!
Im staying out of it this time. Waste of time.

Toyzukijohn
10-25-2011, 09:26 PM
curious how you welded to the housing

With a welder.... easy question.:smug:

zjfabn
10-25-2011, 09:40 PM
With a welder.... easy question.:smug:

Ill reply for him.
What kind of welder? I know how to do it without a welder. I wouldnt do it with a mig though. Blah blah blah about theories, heat, penetration, etc... If I had to do it with a mig it would have to be blah blah blah about physics, amps, wire size, etc. I would tig it like I did on the rig I sold to (who f.kn cares what his name is and a rig you once had)

Lol, ok, now im staying out of it. :)

Sedona Jeep School
10-26-2011, 09:33 AM
...munching popcorn....:D

I have a freshly bent JK D44 front housing. It's so slight, that the only reason we knew it was bent is because it has an inner sleeve, leaving no room for even the slightest bend without causing the axle shaft to rub. Axle squeaks. At the outer end of the tube, the axle is probably 1/16th-inch off of center, just enough to slightly grind the shaft on the inner sleeve. We kept the housing for an emergency spare, but I don't see how it could possibly be straightened, by "eye ball", and since it is sleeved. Fun challenge?

zjfabn
10-26-2011, 09:50 AM
...munching popcorn....:D

I have a freshly bent JK D44 front housing. It's so slight, that the only reason we knew it was bent is because it has an inner sleeve, leaving no room for even the slightest bend without causing the axle shaft to rub. Axle squeaks. At the outer end of the tube, the axle is probably 1/16th-inch off of center, just enough to slightly grind the shaft on the inner sleeve. We kept the housing for an emergency spare, but I don't see how it could possibly be straightened, by "eye ball", and since it is sleeved. Fun challenge?

Charge the person that jumped it for a new axle then give that one to me. Problem solved. :)

I agree. Im not too sure how it could possibly be straightened with a straight edge and eyeball. Im thinking MAYBE if you could measure wms to wms but isnt there some factory caster? You would at least need to know what the wms to wms measurement is on an unbent axle to have a chance at getting it straight. Then you have the factors like play in the ball joints or ?
The only thing that I think might work is if you set in a jig where you could check it with a plumb bob or something???

mike@4wheelers
10-26-2011, 09:53 AM
I'd definately think an aligning rod would help the process. .02 Remember, close only counts in hors.......meh, nevermind.:laugh2: Another thing about bent axles is that lockers rarely live very long unless they're perfectly straight...I'd personally take the time to do it 100% right.

DanFelix
10-26-2011, 10:13 AM
I'd definately think an aligning rod would help the process. .02 Remember, close only counts in hors.......meh, nevermind.:laugh2: Another thing about bent axles is that lockers rarely live very long unless they're perfectly straight...I'd personally take the time to do it 100% right.

What Mike said...
http://www.mcmaster.com/#6061k218/=enrs8g

I think Andrew (jpcrawleram) has one at the LetzRoll shop

10blue-con
10-26-2011, 10:43 AM
Well anything is better than what I have going on now. You can run them a while being bent. Sure the worse it's bent the less time you have before the axle shaft eats/grinds away at the inner tube or the bearing will decide to live else where (destroy themselves) along with the locker itself. But I have driven a 10 bolt chevy bent for quite a while b4 I finally replaced it in a blazer. What I will do is get close enough to live with it until I get a dana 60 built for it (hopefully a 1/2" tube thickness super 60 type axle). Lets not treat this like its rocket science or on a formula 1 race car that goes 212 MPH. Lets keep it in perspective, it's freakin jeep that gets beat on out on the trails.

OlneyJeeps
10-26-2011, 10:55 AM
Ill reply for him.
What kind of welder? I know how to do it without a welder. I wouldnt do it with a mig though. Blah blah blah about theories, heat, penetration, etc... If I had to do it with a mig it would have to be blah blah blah about physics, amps, wire size, etc. I would tig it like I did on the rig I sold to (who f.kn cares what his name is and a rig you once had)

Lol, ok, now im staying out of it. :)

So you know how / why that method may be flawed but you are to good to point out why (I was educated by Rob at 4Wheelers, so as he is the master I will defer to his representation of why and how it should be done properly)
Question was asked because I am always looking for new (logically sound) methods of improving things (how I learned from Rob), not to criticize.

RokNRich
10-26-2011, 10:57 AM
See my post in the oveheating thread..........

10blue-con
10-26-2011, 11:10 AM
See my post in the oveheating thread..........

I agree, jus sayin, it is what it is, which is a beat on jeep for the trails, not a 300 mile n hour rail train, nuff said

mike@4wheelers
10-26-2011, 12:04 PM
As stated, should be fine for a trail rig for a limited time until upgrade...obviously understands not the "perfect solution" for a long-term fix. .02

jpcrawleram
10-26-2011, 02:00 PM
D60's for sale D60's for sale D60's for sale

10blue-con
10-26-2011, 02:06 PM
As stated, should be fine for a trail rig for a limited time until upgrade...obviously understands not the "perfect solution" for a long-term fix. .02
Yeah, it'll be ok,,,,,, for a while.


D60's for sale D60's for sale D60's for sale

HA ha ha, now thats funny. I'll have to come on by. Tim :bandana:

Mike@4Wheeler's Supply
10-26-2011, 02:07 PM
D60's for sale D60's for sale D60's for sale

Or THAT!!!:laugh2:

chriscrawler
10-27-2012, 11:27 AM
Funny about the dana 60 route.I was thinking about putting my 60front and 14 bolt rears in my scrambler project and ditching the factory axles.my employer thinks I'm crazy to want to ad all that extra weight to the jeep.go figure

zjfabn
10-27-2012, 11:47 AM
Lol, one year almost to the day.

chriscrawler
10-27-2012, 08:39 PM
Wow,just got that.lol

azgypsy
10-27-2012, 09:46 PM
thats alright chris,,,,, everybody does it! maybe somtins sparked an interest here in this old thread for ya!
BTW has anybody heard from tim at all? jon fixed that axle back a year ago and since then nobodys heard from tim?

sahara mist
10-28-2012, 11:03 AM
The jeep is in storage. Tim is in Saudi arabia until January.

azgypsy
10-28-2012, 09:13 PM
your kidding! when did ya find that out dale?

sahara mist
10-28-2012, 10:57 PM
I caught bim on another site and pm`ed him a few months ago.

Bugger
11-13-2013, 06:54 AM
10blue-con here, or Bugger (username change) -Well it's been about 2 years and it's still holdin up. Went to Saudi, it sucked, should be heading back to the Valley in a couple of months. Have to see about gettin a couple of axles (60, 14) and start prepin for the inevitable.

LO PHAT
11-13-2013, 07:10 AM
Have to see about gettin a couple of axles (60, 14) and start prepin for the inevitable.

That would be the purchase and build of an XJ, right?

Bugger
11-13-2013, 07:37 AM
Till you spit those axles outta your rig and have to go up, it's inevitable Nate

jpcrawleram
11-13-2013, 07:38 AM
10blue-con here, or Bugger (username change) -Well it's been about 2 years and it's still holdin up. Went to Saudi, it sucked, should be heading back to the Valley in a couple of months. Have to see about gettin a couple of axles (60, 14) and start prepin for the inevitable.

Let me know if you need any help. I got a fresh delivery this past weekend. We have been doing lots of JK 1 ton swaps.

Heck I might even need to show you our Hemi kits!

Bugger
11-13-2013, 07:55 AM
Andrew, while I was up here I went to the Great American Jeep Jambo and met these guys that know you. There was this big tall guy the I think co-drove for you or something like that. Me, Hemi. no way, when the time comes for that I will gut the thing and register it up north and go LS motor. back halving it, and putting a bunch a monkey bars (tube) on it. Like I've always said, these 4wheelers are never ending