Full Traction Lift Install!

[mxprotj]

Hey Guys, just moved here from Colorado, I used to post on colorado4x4.org if I needed some help so just wanted to try the AZ Jeep site out.(some guys on Jeepsunlimited.com said you might be able to help) I finally got enough money saved up for the Full Traction 6" LA, SYE, Gears, Shocks, the works and started calling around to get some install prices and there around 2 Grand, and I just cant afford that, Being no longer in Colorado I don’t have access to a place to install the lift. Just wanted to check and see if there were any fellow jeepers willing to help out and loan a Garage / Driveway For the lift install. I have most of the tools (Basic Hand Tools) but no air/power tools so that would be a plus as well, So if anyone is feeling generous or just would like to help out. Please let me know I need all the helping hands I can get. Thanks a Million guys. –Grant

[jeepin_in_az]

Hey Guys, just moved here from Colorado, I used to post on colorado4x4.org if I needed some help so just wanted to try the AZ Jeep site out.(some guys on Jeepsunlimited.com said you might be able to help) I finally got enough money saved up for the Full Traction 6" LA, SYE, Gears, Shocks, the works and started calling around to get some install prices and there around 2 Grand, and I just cant afford that, Being no longer in Colorado I don’t have access to a place to install the lift. Just wanted to check and see if there were any fellow jeepers willing to help out and loan a Garage / Driveway For the lift install. I have most of the tools (Basic Hand Tools) but no air/power tools so that would be a plus as well, So if anyone is feeling generous or just would like to help out. Please let me know I need all the helping hands I can get. Thanks a Million guys. –Grant

So you already purchased the kit? What about tires?

[mxprotj]

yes i have tires already 37x12.5x15 Iroks w/wheels. No i dont have the kit already but its just a phone call away.

[FlexyXJ]

The full Traction kit is a VERY time involved kit to install. I would not touch it without air tools and a lift. It WILL take you 15+ hours to install. I have done a few of them and 2,000 for all of that isn't out of sight. Thats actually ALOT of work for 2 grand. You will see.... :D



Joe
Absolute Offroad 602-248-8949

[jeepin_in_az]

The full Traction kit is a VERY time involved kit to install. I would not touch it without air tools and a lift. It WILL take you 15+ hours to install. I have done a few of them and 2,000 for all of that isn't out of sight. Thats actually ALOT of work for 2 grand. You will see.... :D



Joe
Absolute Offroad 602-248-8949

I helped on one too, what a PITA...

[jeepin_in_az]

yes i have tires already 37x12.5x15 Iroks w/wheels. No i dont have the kit already but its just a phone call away.


Have you looked at other kits? Or are you already sold on Full Traction?

[mxprotj]

Ive done alot of looking around and from what ive seen FT is the way to go.

[1BLKJP]

Curious to know what is selling you on FT over any others? like RK, RE, TBT and so on.

[mxprotj]

Over the past year and a half I have read an overwhelming amount of positive things about the FT kit (Quality, performance, customer service). I prefer it over the RE kit because of the true 4 link arms (not radius) and Tri-link rear eliminating the track bar. I not to familiar with the RK kit but I’ve heard good things (along with Clayton). The TBT kit looks great but is extremely pricey. I was set on RE for years, then after wheeling a FT kit I just decided that’s what I wanted. Every lift poll on other Jeep sites / Questions asked about lifts, FT is always mentioned in high remarks, never heard a bad thing (except for pinion angle which has now been fixed)

[jeepin_in_az]

I have personally replaced 2 FT front track bars on a friends Jeep, both less than 2 months old, both times he broke it, he was in his apartment parking lot leaving for work. They both broke at the axle end bushing, and the steel was rusted.

He replaced it with a SkyJacker front track bar, and has had no problems for the last 3 years.

Just my impressions on them.

[mxprotj]

This FT kit has not been out for that long FT has improved its quality from its initial product line.

[rolled1]

This FT kit has not been out for that long FT has improved its quality from its initial product line.

sounds like he's sold on it

[FlexyXJ]

sounds like he's sold on it


:challenge: I will put a 5.5" RockKrawler kit on a TJ with 35's up against ANY Full Traction kit... :D Besides, even the FT kit has a 4 link front end, and well we know where the conversation goes from here. Besides, RK,RE kits DONT use Self-drilling screws to hold things in place. Self tappers are for MOTORHOMES not Jeeps or suspension components.


Joe
Absolute Offroad 602-248-8949

[mxprotj]

Wow you AZ fokes really dont like Full Traction do you. This is the most negitive i have ever heard about it. Why not just use different screws?? The RK does not come with skid plates does it???

[phoen1c1an]

:challenge: I will put a 5.5" RockKrawler kit on a TJ with 35's up against ANY Full Traction kit... :D Besides, even the FT kit has a 4 link front end, and well we know where the conversation goes from here. Besides, RK,RE kits DONT use Self-drilling screws to hold things in place. Self tappers are for MOTORHOMES not Jeeps or suspension components.


Joe
Absolute Offroad 602-248-8949

I'll submit my jeep for said challenge. You can put the RK kit on there
:D

[mxprotj]

Well since everyone is no go on the lift lol.... is there anyone that would be willing to help me with the SYE / Gear install?? Thanks Again guys

[1BLKJP]

Nope, RK doesn't come with a new belly pan, but for the money you are saving from the RK to the FT kits you can go buy a belly up skid that is better than you would've gotten from FT.

I don't think that anyone is saying they wouldn't help you, but we are just interested in why people make their decisions. I know a lot of the forums are hooked straight up on RE and anyone else who advertises more than budweiser. But most of us out here like to buy it because it wheels sick. (and shut up Joe, my alumi-junk wheels just fine its the joints that don't).

And to Echo Flexy's comments running the 3 link up front with the track bar takes a lot of pressure off of the front axle housing and also provides much more flex for you to keep the rubber on the ground.

[FlexyXJ]

Wow you AZ fokes really dont like Full Traction do you. This is the most negitive i have ever heard about it. Why not just use different screws?? The RK does not come with skid plates does it???




ACTUALLY...Full Traction doesn't like the AZ rocks. Screws??? No suspension components should EVER screw on or together. Period. And no the RK kit utilizes the stock belly pan or you could use one from nth Degree... How much are you paying for that FT kit??? Give me a call on monday and I will show you a RK kit and give you a price. I am going to JV for the weekend, starting tomorrow so I wont be at the shop till monday.


Joe
Absolute Offroad 602-248-8949

[FlexyXJ]

(and shut up Joe, my alumi-junk wheels just fine its the joints that don't).

LOL...I dont have to say a thing......you did it for me..... :D I will have an RK kit on your junk sooner or later......:)


Joe
Absolute Offroad 602-248-8949

[DsrtJeeper]

Well since everyone is no go on the lift lol.... is there anyone that would be willing to help me with the SYE / Gear install?? Thanks Again guys

mxprotj;

First off.....Welcome!!! :) 2nd...WTH did you leave CO.??? I wheeled Montrose and Silverton over the 4th and loved it!

Don't let these biased opinions sway you in the least. buy what YOU want and feel good about. I've wheeled with the Full Traction kit (New version) and it does extremely well. They had growing pains like everyone else. Just do a search for "Rock Krawler" on Pirate (www.pirate4x4.com) and JU (www.Jeepsunlimited.com) and you'll see why many hesitate to deal with them. I believe their kit has improved, but there's always that lingering doubt. At least Full Traction listened to their customers within the first year of production and improved the kit. RK took years to improve their kit.
Joe;
First off; congrats on getting your shop going. ;)
Why are you so paranoid about self tapping bolts? Have you looked into the latest and their specs? I'm not talking "Ace Hardware" here either. Take one out of my cage if you'd like and try to snap it off with your air gun. How many accounts of cage failure can you show that directly relates to self tapping bolts?
As far as cartridge joints; i've had two replaced and it was all warranteed. That includes installation and removal. Try getting that kind of service from RE or RK. I now run a 4-link in front and all it took was the removal of one arm and beefing up one bracket.
RK did not reinvent the wheel; Joe. I've talked to several lift manufacturers about 4 linking the front in their kits, but they are very concerned about product liability. It's not that the other companies aren't aware of the 4 link's advantages.

Jack;
You and I both know why your lift is tweaked and Troy even offered you free repair. I offered you a ride home from Troy's shop when you were ready. No excuses. ;) :D

PS... mxprotj;
I'll help you with the lift if you'd like. I have most tools except I fried my sawzall. :rolleyes:

[ChrisK]

Yup, welcome to AZ and the club. As DsrtJeeper said, I have also heard that the FT lift is pretty good and flexes well. Yes, they did have some problems, but I've heard they have been solved.
Don't let what everyone says get you down. If you have researched the kit and found good things, then go for it. Just because some folks here don't like it doesn't mean its not good. Just because a kit takes a while to install does not make it bad. As for Joe... he's a hardcore RK supporter to the end. Also a dealer I believe so he may just be a little biased. He has stuck through with them since the alleged bad days. Their stuff has been gathering more support but many are still leary of them from stuff that was posted on the internet whether real or perceived. I think their stuff may be worth a look.

So what ever happened to all the Toys by Troy lifts? Seemed everyone was gong ho and jumping on that bandwagon and then support just dropped off for him. Was there a problem?

Chris

[JamesT]

I saw the FT lifts at SEMA and didn't see anything majorly wrong that stuck out. So I am not sure what the "beef" is with them. :confused: :confused:

[DsrtJeeper]

So what ever happened to all the Toys by Troy lifts? Seemed everyone was gong ho and jumping on that bandwagon and then support just dropped off for him. Was there a problem?

Chris

Chris;
The TBT lift is still selling well if not better now that it comes in kit form. As a matter of fact; there's a post on the Jeep BBS where a guy is installing one in another state. His name is Josh and he has very good things to say about his experience with TBT. He is replacing his RE lift with Alumiflex. JeepBBS (http://www.jeepbbs.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=8327) If you have any doubt about Troy's business; you need to stop by his shop and look on the lifts each week. ;) Keep in mind that most of Troy's business is by word of mouth and not by spending thousands of dollars in magazine ads and misleading print. The lift sells itself and works well as witnessed by the great folks i've wheeled with. It is true that the Daystar cartridge joints could hold up a bit better. TBT and Daystar are working on this and Troy warrantees all faulty parts. I've had two joints replaced myself. They didn't totally fail, but just became loose.
The important thing here is that we all just get out and wheel! Anybody can break anything and it's part of the challenge. I think we all are biased towards what works for our personal needs.

[ChrisK]

Chris;
The TBT lift is still selling well if not better now that it comes in kit form. As a matter of fact; there's a post on the Jeep BBS where a guy is installing one in another state. His name is Josh and he has very good things to say about his experience with TBT. He is replacing his RE lift with Alumiflex. JeepBBS (http://www.jeepbbs.net/forums/showthread.php?threadid=8327) If you have any doubt about Troy's business; you need to stop by his shop and look on the lifts each week. ;) Keep in mind that most of Troy's business is by word of mouth and not by spending thousands of dollars in magazine ads and misleading print. The lift sells itself and works well as witnessed by the great folks i've wheeled with. It is true that the Daystar cartridge joints could hold up a bit better. TBT and Daystar are working on this and Troy warrantees all faulty parts. I've had two joints replaced myself. They didn't totally fail, but just became loose.
The important thing here is that we all just get out and wheel! Anybody can break anything and it's part of the challenge. I think we all are biased towards what works for our personal needs.
Sounds good to me. It just seemed like the talk of his stuff died down real quick and I was just curious if something had happened. Yup to JeepBBS. I'm on there too.

Chris

[1BLKJP]

I don't think that anyone is really trashing anyone elses stuff here. We are just having a little long arm discussion. Contrary to popular belief Joe and I are adults (although don't tell anyone). I was just curious as to why this particular person chose what he chose.

I still like my TBT lift, it is just the joints are going bad and I haven't gotten up to the shop to replace them yet. I think that some of the hype about that lift has faded more and more every time the price goes up. No one on here can admit that this lift is that much better than the comparables at much lower prices.

And Eric, since you and I know why my lift is tweaked why don't you let me in on the secret? I know that Troy will replace my joints for me, but with me in Awhatukee and the shop almost in Flagstaff I have a hard time getting over there.

[DsrtJeeper]

I don't think that anyone is really trashing anyone elses stuff here. We are just having a little long arm discussion. Contrary to popular belief Joe and I are adults (although don't tell anyone). I was just curious as to why this particular person chose what he chose.

I still like my TBT lift, it is just the joints are going bad and I haven't gotten up to the shop to replace them yet. I think that some of the hype about that lift has faded more and more every time the price goes up. No one on here can admit that this lift is that much better than the comparables at much lower prices.

And Eric, since you and I know why my lift is tweaked why don't you let me in on the secret? I know that Troy will replace my joints for me, but with me in Awhatukee and the shop almost in Flagstaff I have a hard time getting over there.

Jack;
I realize you and Joe are adults. I didn't mean my posts to be condescending.

First of all; Troy's kit does not keep going up in price like the other brands. It still cost the same. Troy's bumpers and such have gone up with the tripled steel prices.

Second: I'll give you an example of how my lift has performed better in given situations.... (You'll soon find this out when you install that front locker.) ;)
When climbing ledges and waterfalls; steel arms can often hit the rocks and stop you dead in your tracks. Alumiflex arms bend around the rock, allow you to continue climbing and pop right back into place. Those who watched me at Payeatte Draw witnessed this very thing. ...But don't just take it from me. Contact Jason Shields of Red Rock 4x4 and ask him what he whitnessed at Moab and why he became a dealer. Check out some of the latest work by Campbells such as Barry's buggy. What are the arms made from? ;) I see this application as an advantage and I did alot of homework. I've seen one lower Alumiflex arm tweaked on Frog's TJ. Ya gotta know Frog to appreciate what he has put his Jeep through. ;) :D :eek: Did I mention it is all warrantied? :)

Third: Your alignment shop started all your troubles. Running control arms that are not tightened tends to cause premature wear. ;) You are also limited by your Currie steering which follows the stock "Y" configuration. You will see increased steering at full flex and a much better handling Jeep with a true crossover setup. (Try to find a stock style setup on a well setup rig or buggy.) ;)

I know I sound like it, but i'm not Troy's spokesperson. I just like to correct misconceptions when I can. The TJ can only be taken so far without altering wheelbase and such. I agree that there are several great lifts out there and most performance differences come from the driver.

[jeepin_in_az]

Answer me this:

What do you do when you are in Moad, and the TBT kit breaks?....take you choice, either the long arms, or the steering.

Well, if you have a non-AL setup, several wheelers carry OBWelders, and there are several shops that can take care of you same day.

I don't think many shops around are going to be able to weld AL back up for you...Obviously Troy isn't going to go to you to fix....

I am not bagging on anything, just looking at scenerios that happen frequently in Moab, or any other known trails.

[Qman]

My experiance with the Alumi flex tells me if you were to go far enough to break the Links you wouldn't have much luck Welding them anyways...i have seen a couple friends break them at the Badlands and in Rockport they weren't TBT but some guy out of Yorkville, IL that made them for them Custom and at about half the TBT cost.. when they broke them they were so badly bent at the Break point there wasn't anyway to weld them Troy Myers not owner of TBT but owner of Badlands Offroad park was nice enough to make my Bud up a new link (STEEL) to get him home but if you are hitting the Links then you aren't driving right....your suppose to drive on the tires. my other bud was screwed at Rockport had to drak his rig back and fight to get it up on the trailer....

As far as the FT Kit goes they are all pretty much the same if you are that worried about the SELF tapping screws put a bead on it ...... Don't the instructions say you can tack the brackets if it doesn't then i would run a full bead on any bracket attatched to frame or the axle.. never liked screws very much.. MOLTIN STEEL is always good.....

[DsrtJeeper]

Answer me this:

What do you do when you are in Moad, and the TBT kit breaks?....take you choice, either the long arms, or the steering.

Well, if you have a non-AL setup, several wheelers carry OBWelders, and there are several shops that can take care of you same day.

I don't think many shops around are going to be able to weld AL back up for you...Obviously Troy isn't going to go to you to fix....

I am not bagging on anything, just looking at scenerios that happen frequently in Moab, or any other known trails.

I know of noone that has broke the steering or arms. Maybe you can enlighten me? If something were to break; a steel arm could easily be mounted in it's place minus the benefit of Alumiflex. If you guys are truley interested in Alumiflex properties or have general lift questions; why don't you call Troy and ask him? He's more than willing to answer all your questions. By the way; I don't trailer my Jeep anywhere. I drive it to Colorado or whatever to wheel. I'm that comfident. If I broke in Moab; it's a simple matter of a phone call and overnight shipping of a part if possible.

I spent many weekends racing quads up the hills of Glamis with custom made parts. If I broke down; I often was SOL. :eek: I didn't let it ruin my weekend and I hitched a ride with a buddy in a sandcar or borrowed a quad. It's all what you make of it.

Suppose you pop a bead on the trail and your compressor won't work? Nobody has a spare for your 42" Swamper in the middle of nowhere. Suppose your steel lift breaks and your welder won't work or your engine dies? I could go on and on with examples. You see, regardless of lift; it's always the survival of the fittest. ;) Jeeping is just like many other motorsports that involve unique parts and unexpected failure.

Anyways......this thread is about helping a fellow Jeeper. It's not about what lift is best. Mine isn't perfect and I have yet to see one that is.

[Qman]

Anyways......this thread is about helping a fellow Jeeper. It's not about what lift is best. Mine isn't perfect and I have yet to see one that is.


SO true...... MXPROTJ i am sure you have done your home work on what kit you want..that is the best thing about our sport... there are so many ways to build it and not everyone agrees.. you ask a TJ guy about LEAF springs and he will talk all sorts of trash about them..some guy rolled down a 60 foot cliff in someones cage kit and he dies so people talk crap about that.it doesn't really matter. the fact of the matter i am sure there are tons of people running the FT kit and love it...and if it breaks it breaks... oh well..

but i think your problem is asking such a big job out of People you don't even know... sure many of us would give someone else the shirt off our back but, run some trails with some of the groups around here get to know some people, asking someone to help with something that will take someone with no tools and very little knowledge of such kit is alot.. this won't take just a weekend if you figure the Company you got the Quote from to Install it was only charging $100hr to install such kit it is still going to take that PRO. CREW 20+ hrs to install it...

Now in REAL JEEP time that works out to about 2-3 months and that is if you had the tools to do it

sorry but i think alot of us are afraid to attack such a project on someone elses Rig...in our Driveway with our tools. It is a real big Job and would take alot of time for first time installers.. i have never had a set of instructions that were right and i am sure there are Flaws in theres....


sorry i can't help more than adding to this Thread :rolleyes:

[jeepin_in_az]

I know of noone that has broke the steering or arms. Maybe you can enlighten me? If something were to break; a steel arm could easily be mounted in it's place minus the benefit of Alumiflex. If you guys are truley interested in Alumiflex properties or have general lift questions; why don't you call Troy and ask him? He's more than willing to answer all your questions. By the way; I don't trailer my Jeep anywhere. I drive it to Colorado or whatever to wheel. I'm that comfident. If I broke in Moab; it's a simple matter of a phone call and overnight shipping of a part if possible.

I spent many weekends racing quads up the hills of Glamis with custom made parts. If I broke down; I often was SOL. :eek: I didn't let it ruin my weekend and I hitched a ride with a buddy in a sandcar or borrowed a quad. It's all what you make of it.

Suppose you pop a bead on the trail and your compressor won't work? Nobody has a spare for your 42" Swamper in the middle of nowhere. Suppose your steel lift breaks and your welder won't work or your engine dies? I could go on and on with examples. You see, regardless of lift; it's always the survival of the fittest. ;) Jeeping is just like many other motorsports that involve unique parts and unexpected failure.

Anyways......this thread is about helping a fellow Jeeper. It's not about what lift is best. Mine isn't perfect and I have yet to see one that is.


You are missing the point.

It is easier to find help on steel product than alumiflex, regardless where you are wheeling.

I am assuming Troy would go as far as overnighting a part to you, but overnight from Friday means a Monday delivery...3 days later.

I am not bringing up the point of tires, hi-lifts, quads (much different story there, they are light enough to push around, or out of the way), COST, etc.

In no way am I bagging on someone elses product, just giving my opinion.


MXPROTJ... I don't know of anyone that will tackle that big of a job, in thier driveway. The lift kit is very involved, gears are a science (I have not met anyone that will do them for free, even my friends).

I will help you with the SYE kit, no problem there. I have done about 8 of them so far.

[mxprotj]

I am extremely willing to pay someone for their help I just cant afford 2000 dollars.... That being said, if I do end up spending 2000 I would spend it on the tools needed to install the lift not to pay some shop. I will do it myself in the damn parking lot if I have too :-) one way or another I will figure it out.

I completely understand that I am asking a lot of people I have never met, but what makes Jeepin what it is are the people who jeep; complete strangers only connected through a common interest are willing to help out with whatever they can. That’s what makes our sport great. Thanks for all of the input.

jeepin_in_az Thanks for the offer to help with the SYE.

DsrtJeeper Thanks for the offer to help with the Lift.

Just need someone willing to help(not charge 2000) me with the gears.

To all of the above I will pay you , buy beer, buy lunch whatever i can do in an extremely feeble attempt to compensate you for your help thanks guys.

[jeepin_in_az]

I am extremely willing to pay someone for their help I just cant afford 2000 dollars.... That being said, if I do end up spending 2000 I would spend it on the tools needed to install the lift not to pay some shop. I will do it myself in the damn parking lot if I have too :-) one way or another I will figure it out.

I completely understand that I am asking a lot of people I have never met, but what makes Jeepin what it is are the people who jeep; complete strangers only connected through a common interest are willing to help out with whatever they can. That’s what makes our sport great. Thanks for all of the input.

jeepin_in_az Thanks for the offer to help with the SYE.

DsrtJeeper Thanks for the offer to help with the Lift.

Just need someone willing to help(not charge 2000) me with the gears.

To all of the above I will pay you , buy beer, buy lunch whatever i can do in an extremely feeble attempt to compensate you for your help thanks guys.


My offer still stands on the SYE kit. Beer and pizza are good things :D

To be honest, give Joe Daro (FlexyXJ) a call at his shop, not sure what he charges, but you will get quality work done...most likely cheaper than other shops too.

[1BLKJP]

Eric, I told you never to say that Joe and I are grownups in public. It will ruin our reps. HAHAHAHAH :D HEY, we need to get out wheelin soon.

And yeah, I had some issues that caused that wallowed out end link, but that was more of a blessing since I have been running on 3 arms now and it works beautifully. Just gotta get off my *ss and go have the joints changed out. Then is will be time for 4 wheels to be coilovered. Yeah!!!!

And boss, good luck with whatever you buy. I will wheel with ya no matter what is on your rig. Also do give Joe (FlexyXJ) over at Absolute Offroad a call about setting up your gears. He does a hell of a job, and I know he is cheaper than anyone else in town. But when your over there unless he is saying something nice about me don't believe a word of it. ;)

[DsrtJeeper]

Eric, I told you never to say that Joe and I are grownups in public. It will ruin our reps. HAHAHAHAH :D HEY, we need to get out wheelin soon.

And yeah, I had some issues that caused that wallowed out end link, but that was more of a blessing since I have been running on 3 arms now and it works beautifully. Just gotta get off my *ss and go have the joints changed out. Then is will be time for 4 wheels to be coilovered. Yeah!!!!

And boss, good luck with whatever you buy. I will wheel with ya no matter what is on your rig. Also do give Joe (FlexyXJ) over at Absolute Offroad a call about setting up your gears. He does a hell of a job, and I know he is cheaper than anyone else in town. But when your over there unless he is saying something nice about me don't believe a word of it. ;)

Eh; all you kids are alright in my book! ;) We definately need to get out soon Jack...'tis the season! :)

I agree on the 4 link front. I love it and definately see a difference. My offer still stands when you're ready to replace those joints.

As far as Joe and Mike...top notch work mixed with alot of BS!!! :D Hope you have thick skin for when Joe disses your FT lift. ;) Hehe...

Buncha dang clowns around here; I tell ya! Must be Jeeping season again. :eek:

[jeepin_in_az]

Eh; all you kids are alright in my book! ;) We definately need to get out soon Jack...'tis the season! :)

I agree on the 4 link front. I love it and definately see a difference. My offer still stands when you're ready to replace those joints.

As far as Joe and Mike...top notch work mixed with alot of BS!!! :D Hope you have thick skin for when Joe disses your FT lift. ;) Hehe...

Buncha dang clowns around here; I tell ya! Must be Jeeping season again. :eek:


:D...we all have the itch to go wheeling....just stuck at work gets ya moody. :D

[jeep4offrd]

That explains why I'm not moody. I've been wheelin.
I'll let you know how good Joes installs go next week. After he's done with my junk. :D
Hey guys. Whats the difference between chromoly and alluminum, as far as bendabillity. Which is better and why? Just curious
Bruce

:D...we all have the itch to go wheeling....just stuck at work gets ya moody. :D

[1BLKJP]

If I am thinking correctly, Chromoly is still steel, but just formed and treated in a different manner than standard. Much stronger and should be less bendable. Anything can break however, because my Currie steering has a bent drag link. Nothing bad, but tweaked a little.

The claim to fame on our Alumi-Flex is that it will bend back into shape after. Best example is the shot on Troy's site of the tie rod being tweeked something like 8 inches and then going back straight again.


Oh, and Don't worry, Joe is an equal opportunity sh*tter. He will dog out anyone no matter what equipment is on his rig. I secretly think its because he wishes he had a TJ. :D :D :D

[NVRSTUKXJ]

I am extremely willing to pay someone for their help I just cant afford 2000 dollars.... That being said, if I do end up spending 2000 I would spend it on the tools needed to install the lift not to pay some shop. I will do it myself in the damn parking lot if I have too :-) one way or another I will figure it out.

I completely understand that I am asking a lot of people I have never met, but what makes Jeepin what it is are the people who jeep; complete strangers only connected through a common interest are willing to help out with whatever they can. That’s what makes our sport great. Thanks for all of the input.

jeepin_in_az Thanks for the offer to help with the SYE.

DsrtJeeper Thanks for the offer to help with the Lift.

Just need someone willing to help(not charge 2000) me with the gears.

To all of the above I will pay you , buy beer, buy lunch whatever i can do in an extremely feeble attempt to compensate you for your help thanks guys.


Contact Randy Siade about the gear install.....he used to charge $100.00/axle for the install for club members.......he should be listed on the club site.....

[mxprotj]

Alright Guys I bit the bullet and bought everything I’m going to need, should all be here in the next few weeks, Have a great Thanksgiving everyone and ill talk with you again next week! –Grant

[mxprotj]

The lift has arrived!!! Despite some rumors that there was a 3 week backorder on FT Lifts, I got it today. My 4.88's came as well just waiting on the SYE. So DsrtJeeper, jeepin_in_az and anyone else will to help please let me know a Date that is good for you. :D Thanks -Grant

[DsrtJeeper]

The lift has arrived!!! Despite some rumors that there was a 3 week backorder on FT Lifts, I got it today. My 4.88's came as well just waiting on the SYE. So DsrtJeeper, jeepin_in_az and anyone else will to help please let me know a Date that is good for you. :D Thanks -Grant

We'll set a date; Grant. I hope you like lots of grinding and cutting!!! :D

[jeepin_in_az]

The lift has arrived!!! Despite some rumors that there was a 3 week backorder on FT Lifts, I got it today. My 4.88's came as well just waiting on the SYE. So DsrtJeeper, jeepin_in_az and anyone else will to help please let me know a Date that is good for you. :D Thanks -Grant


Do the SYE after you have the lift on. Just let me know when!

[DsrtJeeper]

The Full Traction lift is on and it looks goooooood!!! Nothing like a bunch of guys grunting it out in the garage and acting like they know what they're doing! :D

It was nice meeting your friends as well as you; Grant. I hope the lift does everything you had hoped for. It sure is beefy and the nicest welds of any kit I have ever seen. Now get out there and scratch up them arms!!! :D

[mxprotj]

Eric(dsrtjeeper) I cant thank you enough for letting me use your garage, im working on the pic's just need to figure out a site to host them, i get some more up tommorrow. Thanks again!

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[Wind_Danzer]

Looks good. Eric always needs to ramp someone huh. ;) :p

I use www.tinypic.com as my hosting site. You can host one pic at a time that way. They don't resize the pics though.

[jason]

kick a** . :D need some flex shots tho.

[DsrtJeeper]

Eric always needs to ramp someone huh. ;) :p


I was gentle...;) I snucked right up ta the lil' fella and put my foot on a toppa his. ;)

[Wind_Danzer]

Gentle, when did that become a word in your vocabulary? :p