Urgent: Stolen Jeep Rubicon

[dstryr99]

My black o4 jeep rubicon was stolen today from the asu parking garage. So if anybody sees it on the road, please let me know. It had 7 3/4" lift with 35s on 17 inch raceline wheels. It also had a rear tire carrier mad by mike baney with a high lift jack on it as well as a trail ready front bumper with 6000 lb winch on it. It definitely stands out so please keep your eye out for it.

Here are a few pics from about a month ago:

http://racelinewheels.com/cgi-bin/mygallery/jeep%202.JPG
http://racelinewheels.com/cgi-bin/mygallery/JEEP3.jpg
http://racelinewheels.com/cgi-bin/mygallery/JEEP1.jpg

and heres some pics from this weekend, poor quality:

http://68.3.28.6:8080/jeep/flex1.jpg
http://68.3.28.6:8080/jeep/flex2.jpg
http://68.3.28.6:8080/jeep/flex3.jpg

Again, any info would be greatly appreciated

Thanks,

Ryan Clemens

[fdxboy]

:( I hope they catch the person who did it and will allow you to use him as a ramp to test your flex!!!

[FlexyXJ]

That sucks!!!! I hope they find it....and soon.....Good luck man...Stolen jeeps suck...I know I have had my share....:(


Joe

[dstryr99]

Just some more info that I forgot to include: the license number on my jeep is MUDJEEP. That is if its still got those plates on it.

Thanks for all of the help.

Ryan

[FlexyXJ]

Just some more info that I forgot to include: the license number on my jeep is MUDJEEP. That is if its still got those plates on it.

Thanks for all of the help.

Ryan


I have several friend of mine who are PHX PD.....One of them gave me the tidbit that "at any given time in Phx, there are 200+ stolen vehicles driving around on the roads here"....hopefully yours is, and they find it....


Joe

[dstryr99]

I got a call from the ASU police deparment at 3:00 AM informing me that they found my Jeep. The sad thing is that it was found less than 1/4 of a mile from where it was stolen from, an apartament complex on rural and lemon. They stole 4 of the 5 tires as well as the stereo system out of it, but winch, bumpers and everything else was still there. The ba$tards actually used my high lift jack to steal the tires, but they also left me with 2 floor jacks. For some reason the driver side rear tire was still there too, they must have got spooked off by something.

Total damage from talking to the officer(havent actually seen it yet):

- 1 cracked steering column
- 4 rims and tires
- 1 alpine cd player
- 1 300 watt amp
- 1 custom speaker box with a 10 inch sub
- minor damge to console and dash board

but I gained 2 floor jacks from the incident.

Oh and by the way if anyone has the sentry key system installed on their jeep with the microchip in the ignition key, don't count on it stopping your jeep from being stolen. Biggest waste of $75 per key that I ever spent.

Does anyone have any recommedations on getting steering column and dash fixed? Should I take it back to the factory or have someone else do it?

Thanks for all the advice,

Ryan Clemens

[azdesertrhino]

Wow, glad they found your Jeep. Hope they catch the thieving $0B's that did it but we all know how likely that is. Sounds like the damage could have been a lot worse! Good luck getting everything repaired and getting back on the road! :D

[Marv Miller]

Glad to hear they found your rig. Seems like the b@stards were after stereo & wheels. Amazing. Also glad it was still in town, and not south of the border. Hope the damage is not too bad and they catch 'em. Good luck!

[Marty]

It seems ASU has a problem with vehicles getting stolen from there property
Your vehicle is the 4th 0ne I've heard about recently.
Marty

[Linda]

It seems ASU has a problem with vehicles getting stolen from there property
Your vehicle is the 4th 0ne I've heard about recently.
Marty

Part of the problem is having a nice vehicle and parking it in an ASU parking garage or remote parking lot. College students aren't supposed to have nice cars, money, or anything else. When I went to classes on the main campus I rode my motorcycle (Okay it was a custom 1986 Harley 1100 Sportster, I'm still trying to sell it!), but I could park it in on the campus near the buildings where my classes were held and not some place where I couldn't keep an eye on it.

Anyway, glad to hear you got it back. My recommendation is to keep your car someplace off-campus if you can, or keep it as ugly as possible so no one will bother with it. Don't know if you can do that with a 2004 Jeep. ;)

[k7mto]

My recommendation is to keep your car <sic> as ugly as possible so no one will bother with it.

No wonder nobody ever tries to steal my Jeep :)

Glad you got your rig back, Ryan.

[FlexyXJ]

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Oh and by the way if anyone has the sentry key system installed on their jeep with the microchip in the ignition key, don't count on it stopping your jeep from being stolen. Biggest waste of $75 per key that I ever spent.


I doubt I would say that....If they had been able to actually drive your jeep Then they would have beat the heck out of it, most likely to the point of just short of totaling it, insurance company then would have "repaired" your Brand new jeep and given it back to you.... At least you know it didnt have anything done to it, that would cause a potential problem (I.E. Driveline, engine,trans,axles) that wouldnt show up till a few months down the road. Glad you got your jeep back, But I would thank that key for it.....It was only 1/4 mile away because they got tired of pushing it.....:)


Joe

[Joe West]

I posted the next killswitch workshop in the workshop forum. Sign up if you don't already have a killswitch.

[weasel_ugs]

Flexy is right,a friend of mine had his truck stolen the night before he got married.They found it halfway to Tucson with a blown engine and all the stereo stuff missing.Its a good thing they couldnt start your Jeep. Don

[Huck]

Just a couple of questions:
First off, I'm glad you got your rig back soon and mostly intact.
1) Was the Sentry Key system defeated? Did they drive it?
2) Were you able to tell by looking at the steering column how the system was defeated? i.e. cutting or jumping wires, etc.

It appears from some of the following posts that they believe the key worked in cutting power to your vehicle. I was under the impression the key worked within seconds of trying to turn your rig over. It shouldn't have been able to make it out if the garage under its own power if the key was working correctly.
I'm just trying to sort out the facts here as I consider the possiblilty of buying one of the Ravelco systems. I'd prefer to keep some trust in the key, but need some more info from you if possible. Thanks for the time.
Huck

http://ravelco.com/

[Huck]

Just a little something from a post on a thread I started regarding this theft on the ROF. I thought I would share this, but I don't know if this is fact or fiction.

Why Sentry keys are worthless?

"All a thief has to do is cut the ****** wire in the ****** wire ribbon cable located under the dash and measure the resistance between the ****** wire and the ****** starter wire with a volt meter. They then touch the two wires with the matching resistor and the vehicle will start. This sounds complicated, but only takes about 20 seconds to defeat . . . which is probably why the factory installs these systems free."


****** = color name (don't want to make it too easy for someone to steal my Rubi)

I just wanted to spark some discussion ;)
Huck

Now I found this:

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject:

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nightrider7731 wrote:
"All a thief has to do is cut the ****** wire in the ****** wire ribbon cable located under the dash and measure the resistance between the ****** wire and the ****** starter wire with a volt meter. They then touch the two wires with the matching resistor and the vehicle will start. This sounds complicated, but only takes about 20 seconds to defeat . . . which is probably why the factory installs these systems free."


I recognize this as coming from the Ravelco site, and it is extremely
dishonest and misleading information. First of all the technique above
will not work with the sentry key system. It will only work with the
GM Vats /Passlock 1 and Passlock 2 systems, and in order to measure
the resistance, you have to have the key present (measure the resistance
with the key present, then you can insert the right resistance and hot
wire the vehicle, but at some point you had to have the key).

The Sentry key is a transponder based system that uses RF to transmit
an ID. The computer needs to see the correct ID or it will not start.
Period. The only way around it is to replace the onboard computer with
one that does not have the sentry key enabled, which is much more
effort than your average car thief is willing to put forth.

Also on that same page on the Ravelco site they talk about how you can
buy bypass systems that will completely get you around the sentry key
system. Again they only tell half the story. Those transponder bypass
kits mentioned are much more complicated than a simple resistor, and
are used in conjunction with an alarm system to allow a remote starter to
work without the key having to be in the ignition. I went and downloaded
the installation instructions for one of these kits, and you have to have
two keys present at the time the transponder bypass is installed to
program it with the security codes. It does not in any way compromise
the security of the factory system.

Look at this if you want more info:

https://shop.bypasskit.com/Original...L-PK_0202_I.PDF

Regardless of whether or not Ravelco makes a decent product, their
dishonesty is enough to prevent me from puchasing anything from them...

Sorry for passing any false info, sometimes the internet is good for that :(
Huck

[dstryr99]

After spending a little time with my jeep, I found out that the sentry key did work. They must of pushed the jeep to where it was, which explains why it was less that a 1/4 of a mile away from where it was stolen. My plan was to drive it from the impound yard after I put my stock tires back on. Unfortunately when they stripped the column, they pulled some wires out so even my key wouldnt not keep the jeep running.

Oh well its at the dearlship know getting fixed and I already got the money from the insurance company.

Ryan

[FlexyXJ]

Just a little something from a post on a thread I started regarding this theft on the ROF. I thought I would share this, but I don't know if this is fact or fiction.

Why Sentry keys are worthless?

"All a thief has to do is cut the ****** wire in the ****** wire ribbon cable located under the dash and measure the resistance between the ****** wire and the ****** starter wire with a volt meter. They then touch the two wires with the matching resistor and the vehicle will start. This sounds complicated, but only takes about 20 seconds to defeat . . . which is probably why the factory installs these systems free."


****** = color name (don't want to make it too easy for someone to steal my Rubi)

I just wanted to spark some discussion ;)
Huck

Now I found this:

Posted: Thu Jul 08, 2004 4:32 pm Post subject:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

nightrider7731 wrote:
"All a thief has to do is cut the ****** wire in the ****** wire ribbon cable located under the dash and measure the resistance between the ****** wire and the ****** starter wire with a volt meter. They then touch the two wires with the matching resistor and the vehicle will start. This sounds complicated, but only takes about 20 seconds to defeat . . . which is probably why the factory installs these systems free."


I recognize this as coming from the Ravelco site, and it is extremely
dishonest and misleading information. First of all the technique above
will not work with the sentry key system. It will only work with the
GM Vats /Passlock 1 and Passlock 2 systems, and in order to measure
the resistance, you have to have the key present (measure the resistance
with the key present, then you can insert the right resistance and hot
wire the vehicle, but at some point you had to have the key).

The Sentry key is a transponder based system that uses RF to transmit
an ID. The computer needs to see the correct ID or it will not start.
Period. The only way around it is to replace the onboard computer with
one that does not have the sentry key enabled, which is much more
effort than your average car thief is willing to put forth.

Also on that same page on the Ravelco site they talk about how you can
buy bypass systems that will completely get you around the sentry key
system. Again they only tell half the story. Those transponder bypass
kits mentioned are much more complicated than a simple resistor, and
are used in conjunction with an alarm system to allow a remote starter to
work without the key having to be in the ignition. I went and downloaded
the installation instructions for one of these kits, and you have to have
two keys present at the time the transponder bypass is installed to
program it with the security codes. It does not in any way compromise
the security of the factory system.

Look at this if you want more info:

https://shop.bypasskit.com/Original...L-PK_0202_I.PDF

Regardless of whether or not Ravelco makes a decent product, their
dishonesty is enough to prevent me from puchasing anything from them...

Sorry for passing any false info, sometimes the internet is good for that :(
Huck


LOL... I can fill in the blanks on the wires for the VATS system. Just dont ask how I know.........:)


Joe

[Scout]

LOL... I can fill in the blanks on the wires for the VATS system. Just dont ask how I know.........:)


Joe

O, c'mon shinsei, just tell us :rolleyes:

[flxy_tj]

O, c'mon shinsei, just tell us :rolleyes:


With a little help from a jeep manual YOU can figure it out. :cool:

[Scout]

With a little help from a jeep manual YOU can figure it out. :cool:


But wouldn't that take all the mystery and intrique out of it ? :)

[flxy_tj]

But wouldn't that take all the mystery and intrique out of it ? :)

No, it is just better to do things yourself. :D

[FlexyXJ]

No, it is just better to do things yourself. :D

Judging by the way he types PM's to me, I am not too sure he knows how to read OR write.... :D

Joe

[flxy_tj]

Have not gotten any PM's so I can't say :D ............ :D :D Gonna go play with the new suspension tommorow.Taking my son back up to Four Peaks. He enjoys it even though you dont need four wheel drive anymore. Then next week we will do a run...PM me and let me know if your going out.