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6793 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Sat Mar 18, 2000 10:46pm
Subject: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
From: "Richard Wall" Wall_R@e...
To: Yucca-man@j...
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:53:41 -0800
Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
Hey a couple of buddies and me are going to run lower woodpecker and lower ajax next sunday the 26 of March.If any wants to go let me know. traviswall@yahoo.com
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6794 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@c...>
Date: Sat Mar 18, 2000 6:07am
Subject: CJ-5 for sale
Is this somebody in the club?
80 Jeep CJ-5, 80% complete, all running gear good, $400 obo. (602)548-XXXX
found it in the Republic classifieds.........just wondering :-)
Len
6795 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 6:46am
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
Len,
Glad to hear that Pam is still doing a Jeep....sorry to hear it is not a TJ.
However, there is still the opportunity to install a coil spring conversion
on her project vehicle. :) You'll get the articulation that you both
liked....remember how smooth the Coves were?
Hope you find a good recipient vehicle to start on!
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
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-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@c...]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
Hello all
After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about getting a TJ.
Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to build one.
The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you rolled a
vehicle that we still owe money on?"
We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that we can
buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she doesn't
have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage insurance, etc,
etc, etc.
So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project vehicle that
they aren't going to buy for themselves?
Len and Pam
'78 J-10 looking for a CJ
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6796 From: Pete <wirch@m...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 10:09am
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
A fellow AZ_VJCer is selling his rock crawler
http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/6724.html?
Might want to check it out, if I had the cash I'd pick it up quick but
I'm broke! :)
Pete
"stu olson" <solson-@u...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6795
> Len,
>
> Glad to hear that Pam is still doing a Jeep....sorry to hear it is
not a TJ.
> However, there is still the opportunity to install a coil spring
conversion
> on her project vehicle. :) You'll get the articulation that you both
> liked....remember how smooth the Coves were?
>
> Hope you find a good recipient vehicle to start on!
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
> Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@c...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
>
>
> Hello all
>
> After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about
getting a TJ.
> Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to build
one.
> The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you rolled
a
> vehicle that we still owe money on?"
>
> We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that we
can
> buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she
doesn't
> have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage
insurance, etc,
> etc, etc.
>
> So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project vehicle
that
> they aren't going to buy for themselves?
>
> Len and Pam
> '78 J-10 looking for a CJ
>
>
>
>
>
6797 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 10:16am
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
Or check out Arizona Trailwerks www.aztrailwerks.com
They have two CJ7's for under $5000 and they already have a 3" lift on
them, one is injected but at least they are a good place to start.
Pete
"pete" <wirc-@m...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6796
> A fellow AZ_VJCer is selling his rock crawler
> http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/6724.html?
> Might want to check it out, if I had the cash I'd pick it up quick but
> I'm broke! :)
>
> Pete
>
> "stu olson" <solson-@u...> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6795
> > Len,
> >
> > Glad to hear that Pam is still doing a Jeep....sorry to hear it is
> not a TJ.
> > However, there is still the opportunity to install a coil spring
> conversion
> > on her project vehicle. :) You'll get the articulation that you
both
> > liked....remember how smooth the Coves were?
> >
> > Hope you find a good recipient vehicle to start on!
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson N7QJP
> > Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
> >
> > http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> > http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> > http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
> > Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@c...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
> > To: AZVJC
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
> >
> >
> > Hello all
> >
> > After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about
> getting a TJ.
> > Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to
build
> one.
> > The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you
rolled
> a
> > vehicle that we still owe money on?"
> >
> > We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that
we
> can
> > buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she
> doesn't
> > have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage
> insurance, etc,
> > etc, etc.
> >
> > So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project
vehicle
> that
> > they aren't going to buy for themselves?
> >
> > Len and Pam
> > '78 J-10 looking for a CJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
6798 From: <joshragan@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 10:26am
Subject: Tj Skyjacker lift
Has anyone heard good or bad about the Skyjacker lift for the TJ. I
know the group loves the Teraflex and the R.E., but this price is
great. I know a guy in PA that that has a 4" single flex kit he want
to sell for $500.00 The kit has less then 4000 miles on it. Here is a
link to skyjackers site http://www.skyjacker.com/catalog/KitsJeep.htm
Let me know what you guys think. He says the only reason he wants to
get rid of it is the jeep is to high for his wife who drives it daily.
Sounded like the wife was the only problem to me.
6799 From: Jake Simoneaux <jeepboy50@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 11:16am
Subject: Re: Tj Skyjacker lift
skyjacker lifts are the most over priced lift kits made new, but for $500 u
would be crazy not to buy!
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6800 From: Joe West <joefwest@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 5:33am
Subject: Installation Report; Warn 7" Flares for Wrangler TJ
Hello Everyone,
I just completed the installation of a set of Warn 7" Fender Flares for my
TJ. The following is a brief report of the installation procedures, and
some of the difficulties I had.
First, when you open the box that the flares come in (it's about the size of
a small refrigerator) your first impression will be "Boy are these things
flimsy... look like they belong on a plastic model of a Jeep, not on the
real thing". After opening the box, I wondered if I made the right decision
to purchase these things... maybe I should live with 4" of SSR sticking out
the side of my Jeep.
I decided to go ahead and install them... hoping that my initial impressions
were wrong...
First thing I did was glance over the instructions... nothing out of the
ordinary here... after making sure I understood the basic procedure.. I put
the instructions aside and went to work.
First thing I did was remove the rear fenders off of my Jeep... pretty
simple task except for one thing; most of the bolts that hold the fenders on
have plastic nuts on the back which turn unless you hold them... and to hold
them you need to remove the fender liner. Too much work for me... I found
that if you pull the flare out hard away from the fender while you are
loosening the bolts, the plastic nuts will not turn and you can remove the
bolt... the plastic nut will then fall inside the fender liner and who cares
where they go after that <grin>. I removed all the bolts (something like 7
per side) from the rear fender flares, and removed the flares.
The instructions said to drill out the mounting dimples located on the new
Warn flares but here's where I'd deviate from their instructions: DON'T DO
IT YET!!!
First; test fit the flares on the fender and with a helper holding it in
place; look to see where the new flare lines up on the lip of the fender
that you are about to drill... I found that because I had some
off-your-rocker corner panel protectors and rocker panel protectors that the
Warn factory mounting holes would not line up, and I ended up drilling new
holes about 1/4" inboard of the Warn mounting dimples. With your partner
holding the flare on... take your 1/8" drill and drill through the flare and
the fender at the same time. Install the self-tapping mounting screw, and
then move to the next hole... drill it, put the screw in and move to the
next hole... you get the picture.
After drilling and mounting both rear flares, I needed to RTV around the
flare where they ran up and over the rocker and corner panel protectors to
keep debris from going between the flare and the panel protector. Put
masking tape on the flare and on the body to keep the RTV from getting in
places you don't want it...run a bead of RTV and then smooth it with your
finger and then QUICKLY remove the tape before the RTV starts to set. This
method leaves a professional looking seal.
After the rear flares were installed I pushed and pulled and prodded them to
check their strength and it is clear that they are a great deal stronger
than the factory flares. Warn's design uses the mounting of the flare to
increase the strength of the flare and once installed; they don't flex at
all. I don't know what this will ultimately mean on the trail as far as
damage cause to the flare because it doesn't flex... but I guess we'll see.
After installing the rear flares, I moved to the front flares.
The front flares are held on in the same manner as the rear flares... just
with more bolts AND the plastic nuts can be held with your hands to keep
them from turning since there is no fender liner.
After removing the front flares and cleaning all the dirt that was between
the flare and the fender, I repeated the same procedure as the rear
flares... i.e, DON'T drill out the mounting holes on the flare until you
test fit the flare first.
The front flares are held on not only by mounting screws in three places,
but also use a 3M adhesive strip which holds the top of the flare to the top
of the fender. You need to clean the wax off of the fender (if you have any
on it) before you begin the install.
After you install the 3M adhesive strips on the flare (leaving the
protective tape over the sticky part which will ultimately be stuck to the
top of the fender), leave a 1" piece of protective tape sticking out from
the end of the 3M tape so that you can remove the protective tape AFTER you
have the flare installed. This is important; DON'T REMOVE THE PROTECTIVE
TAPE FROM THE 3M ADHESIVE STRIP UNTIL AFTER YOU HAVE THE FLARE COMPLETELY
INSTALLED AND YOU ARE READY FOR IT TO NEVER MOVE AGAIN... THIS STUFF IS
STICKY!!!.
Install the front flare with the three screws, drilling and mounting in the
same manner as you did the rear flares. Once installed with all the
screws... grap the exposed protective tape while lifting on the flare and
pull it from the surface of the adhesive... the flare will adhere instantly
to the top of the fender as you remove the protective tape. Be careful not
to pull the protective tape too fast or you can rip it from the adhesive and
it will be extremely hard to get at it because the adhesive is under the
flare between the flare and the fender... there is little room to go fishing
around to start the tape so you can remove it.
After removing the tape and pushing down on the flare to adhere it to the
fender... the installation is complete. I had to run a bead of RTV on the
front fenders because of my rocker panel protection... using the same
masking tape procedure as the rear.
Once installed, the flares cover about 3 more inches of tire on both sides
of the vehicle... I'm no longer throwing mud and crap 30 feet into the air.
<grin>
One benefit of the Warn flares is that they are completely smooth on the
inside, meaning that mud and crap will not adhere inside the fender because
there is no place for it to catch (unlike the factory flares). I'm not sure
how well these flares will hold up to the Arizona Sun, but they are molded
in a semigloss black that can be painted (I chose not to paint them because
I'll just scratch the heck out of them anyway).
If you'd care to check out the results of the install, you can see a couple
of pictures on my web page:
http://members.home.com/joewest2
The first page has a current picture, and there is a sideview picture on the
modifications page.
__________________________________________________ ____
6801 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 1:38pm
Subject: DougB - Fuel injector cleaning
Doug,
I remember talking to Steve about this last year. He said that the best
way to clean the injectors is with an ultrasonic cleaner. Some shops
will do this. Most will just replace them. I suspect that you can
probably take them off yourself and take them in for cleaning. They use
the same snap on-off method that the gas filter uses. I have no idea
how much this service costs. Remember to replace the o-rings.
Linda
6802 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 3:10pm
Subject: Trailers
Hope everyone is having a great weekend!
I'm looking for recommendations on a camping trailer for a CJ5. What is the
largest recommended length and GVWR to tow? The CJ5 has stock AMC 405 engine
and 3-speed. My wife doesn't want to tent camp, and I can't afford a
Motorhome, insurance, gas, and storage. So a fair compromise would be a tent
trailer. Any suggestions, experience or words of wisdom?
Larry
'75 CJ5
6803 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 4:18pm
Subject: Re: Installation Report; Warn 7" Flares for Wrangler TJ
Nice write up Joe. I appreciate the comments on your new flares. I hope
they do well for you!
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joefwest@h...]
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 2:34 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Installation Report; Warn 7" Flares for Wrangler TJ
Hello Everyone,
I just completed the installation of a set of Warn 7" Fender Flares for my
TJ. The following is a brief report of the installation procedures, and
some of the difficulties I had.
First, when you open the box that the flares come in (it's about the size of
a small refrigerator) your first impression will be "Boy are these things
flimsy... look like they belong on a plastic model of a Jeep, not on the
real thing". After opening the box, I wondered if I made the right decision
to purchase these things... maybe I should live with 4" of SSR sticking out
the side of my Jeep.
I decided to go ahead and install them... hoping that my initial impressions
were wrong...
First thing I did was glance over the instructions... nothing out of the
ordinary here... after making sure I understood the basic procedure.. I put
the instructions aside and went to work.
First thing I did was remove the rear fenders off of my Jeep... pretty
simple task except for one thing; most of the bolts that hold the fenders on
have plastic nuts on the back which turn unless you hold them... and to hold
them you need to remove the fender liner. Too much work for me... I found
that if you pull the flare out hard away from the fender while you are
loosening the bolts, the plastic nuts will not turn and you can remove the
bolt... the plastic nut will then fall inside the fender liner and who cares
where they go after that <grin>. I removed all the bolts (something like 7
per side) from the rear fender flares, and removed the flares.
The instructions said to drill out the mounting dimples located on the new
Warn flares but here's where I'd deviate from their instructions: DON'T DO
IT YET!!!
First; test fit the flares on the fender and with a helper holding it in
place; look to see where the new flare lines up on the lip of the fender
that you are about to drill... I found that because I had some
off-your-rocker corner panel protectors and rocker panel protectors that the
Warn factory mounting holes would not line up, and I ended up drilling new
holes about 1/4" inboard of the Warn mounting dimples. With your partner
holding the flare on... take your 1/8" drill and drill through the flare and
the fender at the same time. Install the self-tapping mounting screw, and
then move to the next hole... drill it, put the screw in and move to the
next hole... you get the picture.
After drilling and mounting both rear flares, I needed to RTV around the
flare where they ran up and over the rocker and corner panel protectors to
keep debris from going between the flare and the panel protector. Put
masking tape on the flare and on the body to keep the RTV from getting in
places you don't want it...run a bead of RTV and then smooth it with your
finger and then QUICKLY remove the tape before the RTV starts to set. This
method leaves a professional looking seal.
After the rear flares were installed I pushed and pulled and prodded them to
check their strength and it is clear that they are a great deal stronger
than the factory flares. Warn's design uses the mounting of the flare to
increase the strength of the flare and once installed; they don't flex at
all. I don't know what this will ultimately mean on the trail as far as
damage cause to the flare because it doesn't flex... but I guess we'll see.
After installing the rear flares, I moved to the front flares.
The front flares are held on in the same manner as the rear flares... just
with more bolts AND the plastic nuts can be held with your hands to keep
them from turning since there is no fender liner.
After removing the front flares and cleaning all the dirt that was between
the flare and the fender, I repeated the same procedure as the rear
flares... i.e, DON'T drill out the mounting holes on the flare until you
test fit the flare first.
The front flares are held on not only by mounting screws in three places,
but also use a 3M adhesive strip which holds the top of the flare to the top
of the fender. You need to clean the wax off of the fender (if you have any
on it) before you begin the install.
After you install the 3M adhesive strips on the flare (leaving the
protective tape over the sticky part which will ultimately be stuck to the
top of the fender), leave a 1" piece of protective tape sticking out from
the end of the 3M tape so that you can remove the protective tape AFTER you
have the flare installed. This is important; DON'T REMOVE THE PROTECTIVE
TAPE FROM THE 3M ADHESIVE STRIP UNTIL AFTER YOU HAVE THE FLARE COMPLETELY
INSTALLED AND YOU ARE READY FOR IT TO NEVER MOVE AGAIN... THIS STUFF IS
STICKY!!!.
Install the front flare with the three screws, drilling and mounting in the
same manner as you did the rear flares. Once installed with all the
screws... grap the exposed protective tape while lifting on the flare and
pull it from the surface of the adhesive... the flare will adhere instantly
to the top of the fender as you remove the protective tape. Be careful not
to pull the protective tape too fast or you can rip it from the adhesive and
it will be extremely hard to get at it because the adhesive is under the
flare between the flare and the fender... there is little room to go fishing
around to start the tape so you can remove it.
After removing the tape and pushing down on the flare to adhere it to the
fender... the installation is complete. I had to run a bead of RTV on the
front fenders because of my rocker panel protection... using the same
masking tape procedure as the rear.
Once installed, the flares cover about 3 more inches of tire on both sides
of the vehicle... I'm no longer throwing mud and crap 30 feet into the air.
<grin>
One benefit of the Warn flares is that they are completely smooth on the
inside, meaning that mud and crap will not adhere inside the fender because
there is no place for it to catch (unlike the factory flares). I'm not sure
how well these flares will hold up to the Arizona Sun, but they are molded
in a semigloss black that can be painted (I chose not to paint them because
I'll just scratch the heck out of them anyway).
If you'd care to check out the results of the install, you can see a couple
of pictures on my web page:
http://members.home.com/joewest2
The first page has a current picture, and there is a sideview picture on the
modifications page.
__________________________________________________ ____
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6804 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 4:44pm
Subject: White Tanks run
I just got back from spending several hours on the south end of the White
Tanks. I mapped out a trail (on my topo CDs) that I had seen some other
Jeepers on several months ago. The trail is part of a loop that branches
off of the main trail that runs from the corner of Watson Road towards the
NW. This trail takes you back into the next range of hills (further North)
and delivers you back to the mail trail after a steep downhill section of
trail (or, if you run it backwards, a steep climb). I was with a non-Jeeper
today and he had all he could do to handle the downhill. After we made it
to the bottom, I got him to park his vehicle and took him back up and the
down, in my TJ. (4.56s and Detroits). He was besides himself.
As they say, "Jeep, there is only one!"
I'll be posting my Garmin track log on my website within the next 48 hrs if
anyone cares to grab a copy of it and use it.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
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6805 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 4:59pm
Subject: Re: Trailers
Casita Trailer Company. Steve and I had a 17-ft self-contained model w/bathroom (which included a porcelain throne -- not plastic), kitchen (w/dometic refrigerator, 2 burner stove, sink, and a place to put a micro-wave), queen bed and small dinette (Spirit Deluxe). We bought their most high-end model, but they make smaller ones with less amenities. They are located in Rice, Texas (south of Dallas) and you buy directly. There are no dealers.. Sometimes you can find a used one. We had the torsion bar suspension replaced with a spring over regular axle to give it more ground clearance. Steve took it to Seattle (where he was contracting) and lived in it for about 4 months. He discovered it was really a better camp trailer than a place to live. We traded it in for a 25-ft AirStream. I wish we were able to keep the Casita -- so does Steve, but economics said that we had to use it as a trade-in. I really liked. it. It was a very well-built trailer. The Casita trailer we bought cost about $12,000 (1998), but we had extra things done: extra outlets, bigger water tank, exhaust fan in bathroom, fan-tastic installed at the factory. The Casita is a two piece fiberglass shell, totally enclosed -- even underneath. I looks like a white cocoon. The body won't twist out of square like a lot of the regular box-style trailers. Ours was about the size of a LWB full-size van. I visited the factory (on a business trip) while our trailer was being built. I was really impressed by the workmanship. The Casita Travel Trailer Company is family owned and it appears that they run a tight ship. They had no problem giving me a tour, without any advance warning. Scamper Camper is another brand that uses the same fiberglass molds, but their versions aren't as finished as the Casitas.
Another trailer you might look at is the VenturCraft Camp Trailer. It's a pop-up tent trailer with a queen size bed, dressing area, cargo area, ice chest, and a really high roof. I bought one of these almost two years ago and never regretted it. It's a really basic tent trailer, but it is better than sleeping on the ground. It is made to be taken off road -- and it floats! I have 31x10.50 tires on mine. You can get it with whatever lug nut pattern you need -- which is kind of nice because that means you can always have two extra spare tires with you. I ordered mine with everything except the custom paint color and it cost me about $3,000. VenturCraft trailers are kit trailers. All you have to install are your tires and wheels. My credit union refused to give me a RV loan for a kit trailer so I ended up with a hi-% signature loan. I am very happy with it. It doesn't beat the Airstream -- but what does? Let me know if you want to see it. I'll be happy to show it off.
Linda
Happy Camper :-)
Larry Farquhar wrote:
Hope everyone is having a great weekend!
I'm looking for recommendations on a camping trailer for a CJ5. What is the
largest recommended length and GVWR to tow? The CJ5 has stock AMC 405 engine
and 3-speed. My wife doesn't want to tent camp, and I can't afford a
Motorhome, insurance, gas, and storage. So a fair compromise would be a tent
trailer. Any suggestions, experience or words of wisdom?
Larry
'75 CJ5
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6806 From: Climbingfool <climbingfool@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 4:56pm
Subject: Re: TJ Brakelines
I want to thank everyone for the suggestions. I finally got my 98 TJ,
33x12.50's, 2"spring spacers and 2" bodylift, with shocks that are 3"
over stock instead of 2" on suggestion of Offroad Unltd... NO BRAKELINE
PROBLEMS!!! Amazingly enough!!!!! (Still not a full ramp tho...)
6807 From: Joe West <joefwest@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 9:06am
Subject: Re: Trailers
Hi Larry,
If you find out anything, let me know. I'm interested in tent trailers as
well.
Thanks
Joe West
>From: "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...>
>To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Trailers
>Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:10:30 -0700
>
>
>Hope everyone is having a great weekend!
>
>I'm looking for recommendations on a camping trailer for a CJ5. What is the
>largest recommended length and GVWR to tow? The CJ5 has stock AMC 405
>engine
>and 3-speed. My wife doesn't want to tent camp, and I can't afford a
>Motorhome, insurance, gas, and storage. So a fair compromise would be a
>tent
>trailer. Any suggestions, experience or words of wisdom?
>
>Larry
>'75 CJ5
>
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6808 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 6:04pm
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
I have seen a CJ7 at http://www.aztrailwerks.com/ it is red and is like
$5500.00 bucks..
I pass by it every day on my way home from work and want to stop in and
check it out more and more every day.. But they arn't open at 7am so I just
keep on drivin..
Dave (AZXJ)
-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@c...]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
Hello all
After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about getting a TJ.
Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to build one.
The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you rolled a
vehicle that we still owe money on?"
We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that we can
buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she doesn't
have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage insurance, etc,
etc, etc.
So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project vehicle that
they aren't going to buy for themselves?
Len and Pam
'78 J-10 looking for a CJ
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6809 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 11:23am
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
was coming home from work today and saw a '92 sitting at val vista and brown
in Mesa.....asking $5500....looked completely stock and never off
roaded....pretty clean....phone number is 480.645.3400
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6810 From: Jay Eller <four_by_nut@n...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 6:44pm
Subject: Re: Battery and wiring
A good alternative to the Optima is the Exide battery. We have had this
discussion before, but I will go over it again. The Exide battery is new to the
Exide line, but is EXACTLY like an Optima. Exide bought the rights from the
parent company that makes Optimas to copy their design (long story if you want
to know). But the price of the Exide is a good deal less. I have a local
distributor of Exide and can sell you the battery for $105 with all of the
warranties and everything (maybe less if I can "shmooz" my local distributor a
little more by ordering up a couple of them at once.). I and a friend just
started our own company, in case you were wondering, called Toybox Off-Road. We
did it mostly to help buddies get lower prices on parts since most places want
to rape and pillage (spelling?) by making too much money just for being the
middle man.
If anyone has more questions on this, just drop me a line and I can fill you in.
--
Jay-Bird (www.goodnet.com/~eller)
'83 CJ7
DougB wrote:
> Optimas are well worth it, IMO. For your described use, and red top sounds
> like it would suit your needs. The best price I found was at Batteries Plus,
> in Chandler (Elliot and Dobson - I think).
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Quinn <tquinn@u...>
> To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 9:18 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Battery and wiring
>
> > Well, it appears the battery in my '91 YJ has finally bit the dust. I
> > need to replace it, so what are the opinions on Optimas? Are they
> > worth the extra cash? The electrical system (wiring, alternator) are
> > stock. The Jeep is a daily driver and sees moderate off-road use. I
> > saw a deal in the AZVJC business directory for Optimas, but with these
> > high gas prices, I'd be behind after driving from Gilbert to Glendale.
> >
> > Also, I had to replace my positive battery cable last fall. All I
> > could find, except the $100 one from the dealer, was a cable from Napa.
> > It's pretty cheaply made and didn't quite have the right end on it for
> > the smaller 2nd wire. Anyone know where I can find a higher quality
> > cable? I'm thinking I'll want one if I decide to go with the Optima.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
> >
> >
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6811 From: George Andrews <gandre01@e...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 6:58pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Battery and wiring
I bought both my Optimas from 4Wheeler Supply for approximately $105.....
George Andrews
'82 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs,
Avondale Arizona
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Eller <four_by_nut@n...>
Cc: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Sunday, March 19, 2000 7:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Battery and wiring
>A good alternative to the Optima is the Exide battery. We have had this
>discussion before, but I will go over it again. The Exide battery is new
to the
>Exide line, but is EXACTLY like an Optima. Exide bought the rights from
the
>parent company that makes Optimas to copy their design (long story if you
want
>to know). But the price of the Exide is a good deal less. I have a local
>distributor of Exide and can sell you the battery for $105 with all of the
>warranties and everything (maybe less if I can "shmooz" my local
distributor a
>little more by ordering up a couple of them at once.). I and a friend just
>started our own company, in case you were wondering, called Toybox
Off-Road. We
>did it mostly to help buddies get lower prices on parts since most places
want
>to rape and pillage (spelling?) by making too much money just for being the
>middle man.
>
>If anyone has more questions on this, just drop me a line and I can fill
you in.
>
>--
>Jay-Bird (www.goodnet.com/~eller)
>'83 CJ7
>DougB wrote:
>
>> Optimas are well worth it, IMO. For your described use, and red top
sounds
>> like it would suit your needs. The best price I found was at Batteries
Plus,
>> in Chandler (Elliot and Dobson - I think).
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tom Quinn <tquinn@u...>
>> To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 9:18 PM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Battery and wiring
>>
>> > Well, it appears the battery in my '91 YJ has finally bit the dust. I
>> > need to replace it, so what are the opinions on Optimas? Are they
>> > worth the extra cash? The electrical system (wiring, alternator) are
>> > stock. The Jeep is a daily driver and sees moderate off-road use. I
>> > saw a deal in the AZVJC business directory for Optimas, but with these
>> > high gas prices, I'd be behind after driving from Gilbert to Glendale.
>> >
>> > Also, I had to replace my positive battery cable last fall. All I
>> > could find, except the $100 one from the dealer, was a cable from Napa.
>> > It's pretty cheaply made and didn't quite have the right end on it for
>> > the smaller 2nd wire. Anyone know where I can find a higher quality
>> > cable? I'm thinking I'll want one if I decide to go with the Optima.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Tom
>> >
>> >
>>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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6812 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 8:12pm
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
There's an old flat fender for sale on Stapley south of Brown. Split front window model. It might be a Ford. Looks pretty clean.... No emissions. You can do whatever you want with it. I'll get a phone number if you're interested.
Linda
O'Boyle, David wrote:
I have seen a CJ7 at http://www.aztrailwerks.com/ it is red and is like
$5500.00 bucks..
I pass by it every day on my way home from work and want to stop in and
check it out more and more every day.. But they arn't open at 7am so I just
keep on drivin..
Dave (AZXJ)
-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@cpinet.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
Hello all
After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about getting a TJ.
Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to build one.
The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you rolled a
vehicle that we still owe money on?"
We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that we can
buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she doesn't
have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage insurance, etc,
etc, etc.
So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project vehicle that
they aren't going to buy for themselves?
Len and Pam
'78 J-10 looking for a CJ
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6813 From: Tom Quinn <tom@q...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 8:26pm
Subject: Re: Trailers
My wife and I started looking for campers recently and spent a couple
of hours at Little Dealer Little Prices on Country Club/202 Friday. We
looked at the Coleman pop-ups, which I'm hearing is about the best
brand out there right now (that's the word in camping message boards).
We were quite impressed by them since we've never been in one. You can
get slide-outs in those things now! They ran all the way up to $12,000
fully loaded with slide-outs, cassette toilets and indoor showers. We
looked at the Sante Fe model, added the toilet, hot water heater,
furnace, 3-way fridge and awning and was at $9,500 out the door. That
included wiring the Jimmy for the 7 prong plug, tax, title and license.
They had a "show" going on, so the price was supposedly a "show
price". Coleman has a special going on too...free screen room or $299
A/C unit.
The salesman we talked to said he has the Coleman Utah and pulls it
behind his '95 YJ. He put about a 7" lift kit on the trailer so he
could take it offroad. I guess he pulls it down to Mexico and on
hunting trips.
We were really impressed with the Coleman's, but will probably need to
find a used one to get the price down a little bit. The pop-up should
fit in your garage too if you don't have an RV gate.
www.fleetwood.com or www.littledealer.com
Tom
"joe west" <joefwes-@h...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6807
> Hi Larry,
>
> If you find out anything, let me know. I'm interested in tent
trailers as
> well.
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe West
>
> >From: "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...>
> >To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Trailers
> >Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:10:30 -0700
> >
> >
> >Hope everyone is having a great weekend!
> >
> >I'm looking for recommendations on a camping trailer for a CJ5. What
is the
> >largest recommended length and GVWR to tow? The CJ5 has stock AMC
405
> >engine
> >and 3-speed. My wife doesn't want to tent camp, and I can't afford a
> >Motorhome, insurance, gas, and storage. So a fair compromise would
be a
> >tent
> >trailer. Any suggestions, experience or words of wisdom?
> >
> >Larry
> >'75 CJ5
> >
> >
6814 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 9:44pm
Subject: Re: Trailers
saw these on www.azfamily.com free classifieds.
03/16/2000
Curtis Ferguson
Phone: 480-598-8532
Email: skaterboy_8@h...
For sale
1992 Coleman Pop-UP Camper
Model Seneca
Sleeps 6 people
Length/width 22'5"by6'8"
Weight 1,400
Extras microwave,awning,and screen room
$2500.00 o.b.o.
03/09/2000
1999 Coleman Seapine Tent Trailer
Phone: 480-610-6754
Email: mckelfam@m...
If you are looking for a home
away from home,this is for you.
Sleeps 6-8,elect/gas Frig,Heater,
Outside Hot shower,water heater
electric brakes,deluxe screen room
and much more. Used 3X New Cond
Moving Must Sell Immed. $4800.OBO
Call or e-mail Michele
6815 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 0:47am
Subject: Anyoone recognize this Jeep?
Ran across this the other day........
WILDCAT
1955 WILLYS CJ3B
Custom Everything
http://drive.to/yldkat55
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6816 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 5:04am
Subject: Re: Tax Relief Run, YOUR Invitation
I may be in. (Would be my first run with azvjc!) And I may bring
some buddies. Can anyone tell about what this run would be rated
so I can inform my buddies? Thanks.
-Roger
6817 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 5:03am
Subject: Re: Tax Relief Run, YOUR Invitation
1-5 there are obsticles for everyone easy to hard.....
Dave (AZXJ)
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From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 6:05 AM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Tax Relief Run, YOUR Invitation
I may be in. (Would be my first run with azvjc!) And I may bring
some buddies. Can anyone tell about what this run would be rated
so I can inform my buddies? Thanks.
-Roger
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6793 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Sat Mar 18, 2000 10:46pm
Subject: Fw: AZ_VJC Suggestions
From: "Richard Wall" Wall_R@e...
To: Yucca-man@j...
Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 21:53:41 -0800
Subject: AZ_VJC Suggestions
Hey a couple of buddies and me are going to run lower woodpecker and lower ajax next sunday the 26 of March.If any wants to go let me know. traviswall@yahoo.com
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6794 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@c...>
Date: Sat Mar 18, 2000 6:07am
Subject: CJ-5 for sale
Is this somebody in the club?
80 Jeep CJ-5, 80% complete, all running gear good, $400 obo. (602)548-XXXX
found it in the Republic classifieds.........just wondering :-)
Len
6795 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 6:46am
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
Len,
Glad to hear that Pam is still doing a Jeep....sorry to hear it is not a TJ.
However, there is still the opportunity to install a coil spring conversion
on her project vehicle. :) You'll get the articulation that you both
liked....remember how smooth the Coves were?
Hope you find a good recipient vehicle to start on!
Stu
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-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@c...]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
Hello all
After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about getting a TJ.
Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to build one.
The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you rolled a
vehicle that we still owe money on?"
We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that we can
buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she doesn't
have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage insurance, etc,
etc, etc.
So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project vehicle that
they aren't going to buy for themselves?
Len and Pam
'78 J-10 looking for a CJ
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6796 From: Pete <wirch@m...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 10:09am
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
A fellow AZ_VJCer is selling his rock crawler
http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/6724.html?
Might want to check it out, if I had the cash I'd pick it up quick but
I'm broke! :)
Pete
"stu olson" <solson-@u...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6795
> Len,
>
> Glad to hear that Pam is still doing a Jeep....sorry to hear it is
not a TJ.
> However, there is still the opportunity to install a coil spring
conversion
> on her project vehicle. :) You'll get the articulation that you both
> liked....remember how smooth the Coves were?
>
> Hope you find a good recipient vehicle to start on!
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@c...]
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
>
>
> Hello all
>
> After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about
getting a TJ.
> Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to build
one.
> The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you rolled
a
> vehicle that we still owe money on?"
>
> We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that we
can
> buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she
doesn't
> have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage
insurance, etc,
> etc, etc.
>
> So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project vehicle
that
> they aren't going to buy for themselves?
>
> Len and Pam
> '78 J-10 looking for a CJ
>
>
>
>
>
6797 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 10:16am
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
Or check out Arizona Trailwerks www.aztrailwerks.com
They have two CJ7's for under $5000 and they already have a 3" lift on
them, one is injected but at least they are a good place to start.
Pete
"pete" <wirc-@m...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6796
> A fellow AZ_VJCer is selling his rock crawler
> http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/6724.html?
> Might want to check it out, if I had the cash I'd pick it up quick but
> I'm broke! :)
>
> Pete
>
> "stu olson" <solson-@u...> wrote:
> original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6795
> > Len,
> >
> > Glad to hear that Pam is still doing a Jeep....sorry to hear it is
> not a TJ.
> > However, there is still the opportunity to install a coil spring
> conversion
> > on her project vehicle. :) You'll get the articulation that you
both
> > liked....remember how smooth the Coves were?
> >
> > Hope you find a good recipient vehicle to start on!
> >
> > Stu
> >
> > Stu Olson N7QJP
> > Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
> >
> > http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> > http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> > http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
> > Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@c...]
> > Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
> > To: AZVJC
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
> >
> >
> > Hello all
> >
> > After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about
> getting a TJ.
> > Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to
build
> one.
> > The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you
rolled
> a
> > vehicle that we still owe money on?"
> >
> > We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that
we
> can
> > buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she
> doesn't
> > have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage
> insurance, etc,
> > etc, etc.
> >
> > So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project
vehicle
> that
> > they aren't going to buy for themselves?
> >
> > Len and Pam
> > '78 J-10 looking for a CJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
6798 From: <joshragan@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 10:26am
Subject: Tj Skyjacker lift
Has anyone heard good or bad about the Skyjacker lift for the TJ. I
know the group loves the Teraflex and the R.E., but this price is
great. I know a guy in PA that that has a 4" single flex kit he want
to sell for $500.00 The kit has less then 4000 miles on it. Here is a
link to skyjackers site http://www.skyjacker.com/catalog/KitsJeep.htm
Let me know what you guys think. He says the only reason he wants to
get rid of it is the jeep is to high for his wife who drives it daily.
Sounded like the wife was the only problem to me.
6799 From: Jake Simoneaux <jeepboy50@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 11:16am
Subject: Re: Tj Skyjacker lift
skyjacker lifts are the most over priced lift kits made new, but for $500 u
would be crazy not to buy!
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6800 From: Joe West <joefwest@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 5:33am
Subject: Installation Report; Warn 7" Flares for Wrangler TJ
Hello Everyone,
I just completed the installation of a set of Warn 7" Fender Flares for my
TJ. The following is a brief report of the installation procedures, and
some of the difficulties I had.
First, when you open the box that the flares come in (it's about the size of
a small refrigerator) your first impression will be "Boy are these things
flimsy... look like they belong on a plastic model of a Jeep, not on the
real thing". After opening the box, I wondered if I made the right decision
to purchase these things... maybe I should live with 4" of SSR sticking out
the side of my Jeep.
I decided to go ahead and install them... hoping that my initial impressions
were wrong...
First thing I did was glance over the instructions... nothing out of the
ordinary here... after making sure I understood the basic procedure.. I put
the instructions aside and went to work.
First thing I did was remove the rear fenders off of my Jeep... pretty
simple task except for one thing; most of the bolts that hold the fenders on
have plastic nuts on the back which turn unless you hold them... and to hold
them you need to remove the fender liner. Too much work for me... I found
that if you pull the flare out hard away from the fender while you are
loosening the bolts, the plastic nuts will not turn and you can remove the
bolt... the plastic nut will then fall inside the fender liner and who cares
where they go after that <grin>. I removed all the bolts (something like 7
per side) from the rear fender flares, and removed the flares.
The instructions said to drill out the mounting dimples located on the new
Warn flares but here's where I'd deviate from their instructions: DON'T DO
IT YET!!!
First; test fit the flares on the fender and with a helper holding it in
place; look to see where the new flare lines up on the lip of the fender
that you are about to drill... I found that because I had some
off-your-rocker corner panel protectors and rocker panel protectors that the
Warn factory mounting holes would not line up, and I ended up drilling new
holes about 1/4" inboard of the Warn mounting dimples. With your partner
holding the flare on... take your 1/8" drill and drill through the flare and
the fender at the same time. Install the self-tapping mounting screw, and
then move to the next hole... drill it, put the screw in and move to the
next hole... you get the picture.
After drilling and mounting both rear flares, I needed to RTV around the
flare where they ran up and over the rocker and corner panel protectors to
keep debris from going between the flare and the panel protector. Put
masking tape on the flare and on the body to keep the RTV from getting in
places you don't want it...run a bead of RTV and then smooth it with your
finger and then QUICKLY remove the tape before the RTV starts to set. This
method leaves a professional looking seal.
After the rear flares were installed I pushed and pulled and prodded them to
check their strength and it is clear that they are a great deal stronger
than the factory flares. Warn's design uses the mounting of the flare to
increase the strength of the flare and once installed; they don't flex at
all. I don't know what this will ultimately mean on the trail as far as
damage cause to the flare because it doesn't flex... but I guess we'll see.
After installing the rear flares, I moved to the front flares.
The front flares are held on in the same manner as the rear flares... just
with more bolts AND the plastic nuts can be held with your hands to keep
them from turning since there is no fender liner.
After removing the front flares and cleaning all the dirt that was between
the flare and the fender, I repeated the same procedure as the rear
flares... i.e, DON'T drill out the mounting holes on the flare until you
test fit the flare first.
The front flares are held on not only by mounting screws in three places,
but also use a 3M adhesive strip which holds the top of the flare to the top
of the fender. You need to clean the wax off of the fender (if you have any
on it) before you begin the install.
After you install the 3M adhesive strips on the flare (leaving the
protective tape over the sticky part which will ultimately be stuck to the
top of the fender), leave a 1" piece of protective tape sticking out from
the end of the 3M tape so that you can remove the protective tape AFTER you
have the flare installed. This is important; DON'T REMOVE THE PROTECTIVE
TAPE FROM THE 3M ADHESIVE STRIP UNTIL AFTER YOU HAVE THE FLARE COMPLETELY
INSTALLED AND YOU ARE READY FOR IT TO NEVER MOVE AGAIN... THIS STUFF IS
STICKY!!!.
Install the front flare with the three screws, drilling and mounting in the
same manner as you did the rear flares. Once installed with all the
screws... grap the exposed protective tape while lifting on the flare and
pull it from the surface of the adhesive... the flare will adhere instantly
to the top of the fender as you remove the protective tape. Be careful not
to pull the protective tape too fast or you can rip it from the adhesive and
it will be extremely hard to get at it because the adhesive is under the
flare between the flare and the fender... there is little room to go fishing
around to start the tape so you can remove it.
After removing the tape and pushing down on the flare to adhere it to the
fender... the installation is complete. I had to run a bead of RTV on the
front fenders because of my rocker panel protection... using the same
masking tape procedure as the rear.
Once installed, the flares cover about 3 more inches of tire on both sides
of the vehicle... I'm no longer throwing mud and crap 30 feet into the air.
<grin>
One benefit of the Warn flares is that they are completely smooth on the
inside, meaning that mud and crap will not adhere inside the fender because
there is no place for it to catch (unlike the factory flares). I'm not sure
how well these flares will hold up to the Arizona Sun, but they are molded
in a semigloss black that can be painted (I chose not to paint them because
I'll just scratch the heck out of them anyway).
If you'd care to check out the results of the install, you can see a couple
of pictures on my web page:
http://members.home.com/joewest2
The first page has a current picture, and there is a sideview picture on the
modifications page.
__________________________________________________ ____
6801 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 1:38pm
Subject: DougB - Fuel injector cleaning
Doug,
I remember talking to Steve about this last year. He said that the best
way to clean the injectors is with an ultrasonic cleaner. Some shops
will do this. Most will just replace them. I suspect that you can
probably take them off yourself and take them in for cleaning. They use
the same snap on-off method that the gas filter uses. I have no idea
how much this service costs. Remember to replace the o-rings.
Linda
6802 From: Larry Farquhar <lfar@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 3:10pm
Subject: Trailers
Hope everyone is having a great weekend!
I'm looking for recommendations on a camping trailer for a CJ5. What is the
largest recommended length and GVWR to tow? The CJ5 has stock AMC 405 engine
and 3-speed. My wife doesn't want to tent camp, and I can't afford a
Motorhome, insurance, gas, and storage. So a fair compromise would be a tent
trailer. Any suggestions, experience or words of wisdom?
Larry
'75 CJ5
6803 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 4:18pm
Subject: Re: Installation Report; Warn 7" Flares for Wrangler TJ
Nice write up Joe. I appreciate the comments on your new flares. I hope
they do well for you!
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joefwest@h...]
Sent: Sunday, March 19, 2000 2:34 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Installation Report; Warn 7" Flares for Wrangler TJ
Hello Everyone,
I just completed the installation of a set of Warn 7" Fender Flares for my
TJ. The following is a brief report of the installation procedures, and
some of the difficulties I had.
First, when you open the box that the flares come in (it's about the size of
a small refrigerator) your first impression will be "Boy are these things
flimsy... look like they belong on a plastic model of a Jeep, not on the
real thing". After opening the box, I wondered if I made the right decision
to purchase these things... maybe I should live with 4" of SSR sticking out
the side of my Jeep.
I decided to go ahead and install them... hoping that my initial impressions
were wrong...
First thing I did was glance over the instructions... nothing out of the
ordinary here... after making sure I understood the basic procedure.. I put
the instructions aside and went to work.
First thing I did was remove the rear fenders off of my Jeep... pretty
simple task except for one thing; most of the bolts that hold the fenders on
have plastic nuts on the back which turn unless you hold them... and to hold
them you need to remove the fender liner. Too much work for me... I found
that if you pull the flare out hard away from the fender while you are
loosening the bolts, the plastic nuts will not turn and you can remove the
bolt... the plastic nut will then fall inside the fender liner and who cares
where they go after that <grin>. I removed all the bolts (something like 7
per side) from the rear fender flares, and removed the flares.
The instructions said to drill out the mounting dimples located on the new
Warn flares but here's where I'd deviate from their instructions: DON'T DO
IT YET!!!
First; test fit the flares on the fender and with a helper holding it in
place; look to see where the new flare lines up on the lip of the fender
that you are about to drill... I found that because I had some
off-your-rocker corner panel protectors and rocker panel protectors that the
Warn factory mounting holes would not line up, and I ended up drilling new
holes about 1/4" inboard of the Warn mounting dimples. With your partner
holding the flare on... take your 1/8" drill and drill through the flare and
the fender at the same time. Install the self-tapping mounting screw, and
then move to the next hole... drill it, put the screw in and move to the
next hole... you get the picture.
After drilling and mounting both rear flares, I needed to RTV around the
flare where they ran up and over the rocker and corner panel protectors to
keep debris from going between the flare and the panel protector. Put
masking tape on the flare and on the body to keep the RTV from getting in
places you don't want it...run a bead of RTV and then smooth it with your
finger and then QUICKLY remove the tape before the RTV starts to set. This
method leaves a professional looking seal.
After the rear flares were installed I pushed and pulled and prodded them to
check their strength and it is clear that they are a great deal stronger
than the factory flares. Warn's design uses the mounting of the flare to
increase the strength of the flare and once installed; they don't flex at
all. I don't know what this will ultimately mean on the trail as far as
damage cause to the flare because it doesn't flex... but I guess we'll see.
After installing the rear flares, I moved to the front flares.
The front flares are held on in the same manner as the rear flares... just
with more bolts AND the plastic nuts can be held with your hands to keep
them from turning since there is no fender liner.
After removing the front flares and cleaning all the dirt that was between
the flare and the fender, I repeated the same procedure as the rear
flares... i.e, DON'T drill out the mounting holes on the flare until you
test fit the flare first.
The front flares are held on not only by mounting screws in three places,
but also use a 3M adhesive strip which holds the top of the flare to the top
of the fender. You need to clean the wax off of the fender (if you have any
on it) before you begin the install.
After you install the 3M adhesive strips on the flare (leaving the
protective tape over the sticky part which will ultimately be stuck to the
top of the fender), leave a 1" piece of protective tape sticking out from
the end of the 3M tape so that you can remove the protective tape AFTER you
have the flare installed. This is important; DON'T REMOVE THE PROTECTIVE
TAPE FROM THE 3M ADHESIVE STRIP UNTIL AFTER YOU HAVE THE FLARE COMPLETELY
INSTALLED AND YOU ARE READY FOR IT TO NEVER MOVE AGAIN... THIS STUFF IS
STICKY!!!.
Install the front flare with the three screws, drilling and mounting in the
same manner as you did the rear flares. Once installed with all the
screws... grap the exposed protective tape while lifting on the flare and
pull it from the surface of the adhesive... the flare will adhere instantly
to the top of the fender as you remove the protective tape. Be careful not
to pull the protective tape too fast or you can rip it from the adhesive and
it will be extremely hard to get at it because the adhesive is under the
flare between the flare and the fender... there is little room to go fishing
around to start the tape so you can remove it.
After removing the tape and pushing down on the flare to adhere it to the
fender... the installation is complete. I had to run a bead of RTV on the
front fenders because of my rocker panel protection... using the same
masking tape procedure as the rear.
Once installed, the flares cover about 3 more inches of tire on both sides
of the vehicle... I'm no longer throwing mud and crap 30 feet into the air.
<grin>
One benefit of the Warn flares is that they are completely smooth on the
inside, meaning that mud and crap will not adhere inside the fender because
there is no place for it to catch (unlike the factory flares). I'm not sure
how well these flares will hold up to the Arizona Sun, but they are molded
in a semigloss black that can be painted (I chose not to paint them because
I'll just scratch the heck out of them anyway).
If you'd care to check out the results of the install, you can see a couple
of pictures on my web page:
http://members.home.com/joewest2
The first page has a current picture, and there is a sideview picture on the
modifications page.
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6804 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 4:44pm
Subject: White Tanks run
I just got back from spending several hours on the south end of the White
Tanks. I mapped out a trail (on my topo CDs) that I had seen some other
Jeepers on several months ago. The trail is part of a loop that branches
off of the main trail that runs from the corner of Watson Road towards the
NW. This trail takes you back into the next range of hills (further North)
and delivers you back to the mail trail after a steep downhill section of
trail (or, if you run it backwards, a steep climb). I was with a non-Jeeper
today and he had all he could do to handle the downhill. After we made it
to the bottom, I got him to park his vehicle and took him back up and the
down, in my TJ. (4.56s and Detroits). He was besides himself.
As they say, "Jeep, there is only one!"
I'll be posting my Garmin track log on my website within the next 48 hrs if
anyone cares to grab a copy of it and use it.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
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6805 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 4:59pm
Subject: Re: Trailers
Casita Trailer Company. Steve and I had a 17-ft self-contained model w/bathroom (which included a porcelain throne -- not plastic), kitchen (w/dometic refrigerator, 2 burner stove, sink, and a place to put a micro-wave), queen bed and small dinette (Spirit Deluxe). We bought their most high-end model, but they make smaller ones with less amenities. They are located in Rice, Texas (south of Dallas) and you buy directly. There are no dealers.. Sometimes you can find a used one. We had the torsion bar suspension replaced with a spring over regular axle to give it more ground clearance. Steve took it to Seattle (where he was contracting) and lived in it for about 4 months. He discovered it was really a better camp trailer than a place to live. We traded it in for a 25-ft AirStream. I wish we were able to keep the Casita -- so does Steve, but economics said that we had to use it as a trade-in. I really liked. it. It was a very well-built trailer. The Casita trailer we bought cost about $12,000 (1998), but we had extra things done: extra outlets, bigger water tank, exhaust fan in bathroom, fan-tastic installed at the factory. The Casita is a two piece fiberglass shell, totally enclosed -- even underneath. I looks like a white cocoon. The body won't twist out of square like a lot of the regular box-style trailers. Ours was about the size of a LWB full-size van. I visited the factory (on a business trip) while our trailer was being built. I was really impressed by the workmanship. The Casita Travel Trailer Company is family owned and it appears that they run a tight ship. They had no problem giving me a tour, without any advance warning. Scamper Camper is another brand that uses the same fiberglass molds, but their versions aren't as finished as the Casitas.
Another trailer you might look at is the VenturCraft Camp Trailer. It's a pop-up tent trailer with a queen size bed, dressing area, cargo area, ice chest, and a really high roof. I bought one of these almost two years ago and never regretted it. It's a really basic tent trailer, but it is better than sleeping on the ground. It is made to be taken off road -- and it floats! I have 31x10.50 tires on mine. You can get it with whatever lug nut pattern you need -- which is kind of nice because that means you can always have two extra spare tires with you. I ordered mine with everything except the custom paint color and it cost me about $3,000. VenturCraft trailers are kit trailers. All you have to install are your tires and wheels. My credit union refused to give me a RV loan for a kit trailer so I ended up with a hi-% signature loan. I am very happy with it. It doesn't beat the Airstream -- but what does? Let me know if you want to see it. I'll be happy to show it off.
Linda
Happy Camper :-)
Larry Farquhar wrote:
Hope everyone is having a great weekend!
I'm looking for recommendations on a camping trailer for a CJ5. What is the
largest recommended length and GVWR to tow? The CJ5 has stock AMC 405 engine
and 3-speed. My wife doesn't want to tent camp, and I can't afford a
Motorhome, insurance, gas, and storage. So a fair compromise would be a tent
trailer. Any suggestions, experience or words of wisdom?
Larry
'75 CJ5
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6806 From: Climbingfool <climbingfool@c...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 4:56pm
Subject: Re: TJ Brakelines
I want to thank everyone for the suggestions. I finally got my 98 TJ,
33x12.50's, 2"spring spacers and 2" bodylift, with shocks that are 3"
over stock instead of 2" on suggestion of Offroad Unltd... NO BRAKELINE
PROBLEMS!!! Amazingly enough!!!!! (Still not a full ramp tho...)
6807 From: Joe West <joefwest@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 9:06am
Subject: Re: Trailers
Hi Larry,
If you find out anything, let me know. I'm interested in tent trailers as
well.
Thanks
Joe West
>From: "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...>
>To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Trailers
>Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:10:30 -0700
>
>
>Hope everyone is having a great weekend!
>
>I'm looking for recommendations on a camping trailer for a CJ5. What is the
>largest recommended length and GVWR to tow? The CJ5 has stock AMC 405
>engine
>and 3-speed. My wife doesn't want to tent camp, and I can't afford a
>Motorhome, insurance, gas, and storage. So a fair compromise would be a
>tent
>trailer. Any suggestions, experience or words of wisdom?
>
>Larry
>'75 CJ5
>
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6808 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 6:04pm
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
I have seen a CJ7 at http://www.aztrailwerks.com/ it is red and is like
$5500.00 bucks..
I pass by it every day on my way home from work and want to stop in and
check it out more and more every day.. But they arn't open at 7am so I just
keep on drivin..
Dave (AZXJ)
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From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@c...]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
Hello all
After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about getting a TJ.
Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to build one.
The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you rolled a
vehicle that we still owe money on?"
We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that we can
buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she doesn't
have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage insurance, etc,
etc, etc.
So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project vehicle that
they aren't going to buy for themselves?
Len and Pam
'78 J-10 looking for a CJ
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6809 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 11:23am
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
was coming home from work today and saw a '92 sitting at val vista and brown
in Mesa.....asking $5500....looked completely stock and never off
roaded....pretty clean....phone number is 480.645.3400
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6810 From: Jay Eller <four_by_nut@n...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 6:44pm
Subject: Re: Battery and wiring
A good alternative to the Optima is the Exide battery. We have had this
discussion before, but I will go over it again. The Exide battery is new to the
Exide line, but is EXACTLY like an Optima. Exide bought the rights from the
parent company that makes Optimas to copy their design (long story if you want
to know). But the price of the Exide is a good deal less. I have a local
distributor of Exide and can sell you the battery for $105 with all of the
warranties and everything (maybe less if I can "shmooz" my local distributor a
little more by ordering up a couple of them at once.). I and a friend just
started our own company, in case you were wondering, called Toybox Off-Road. We
did it mostly to help buddies get lower prices on parts since most places want
to rape and pillage (spelling?) by making too much money just for being the
middle man.
If anyone has more questions on this, just drop me a line and I can fill you in.
--
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'83 CJ7
DougB wrote:
> Optimas are well worth it, IMO. For your described use, and red top sounds
> like it would suit your needs. The best price I found was at Batteries Plus,
> in Chandler (Elliot and Dobson - I think).
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Quinn <tquinn@u...>
> To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 9:18 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Battery and wiring
>
> > Well, it appears the battery in my '91 YJ has finally bit the dust. I
> > need to replace it, so what are the opinions on Optimas? Are they
> > worth the extra cash? The electrical system (wiring, alternator) are
> > stock. The Jeep is a daily driver and sees moderate off-road use. I
> > saw a deal in the AZVJC business directory for Optimas, but with these
> > high gas prices, I'd be behind after driving from Gilbert to Glendale.
> >
> > Also, I had to replace my positive battery cable last fall. All I
> > could find, except the $100 one from the dealer, was a cable from Napa.
> > It's pretty cheaply made and didn't quite have the right end on it for
> > the smaller 2nd wire. Anyone know where I can find a higher quality
> > cable? I'm thinking I'll want one if I decide to go with the Optima.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tom
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6811 From: George Andrews <gandre01@e...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 6:58pm
Subject: Re: Fw: Battery and wiring
I bought both my Optimas from 4Wheeler Supply for approximately $105.....
George Andrews
'82 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs,
Avondale Arizona
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From: Jay Eller <four_by_nut@n...>
Cc: az_vjc@eGroups.com <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Date: Sunday, March 19, 2000 7:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Battery and wiring
>A good alternative to the Optima is the Exide battery. We have had this
>discussion before, but I will go over it again. The Exide battery is new
to the
>Exide line, but is EXACTLY like an Optima. Exide bought the rights from
the
>parent company that makes Optimas to copy their design (long story if you
want
>to know). But the price of the Exide is a good deal less. I have a local
>distributor of Exide and can sell you the battery for $105 with all of the
>warranties and everything (maybe less if I can "shmooz" my local
distributor a
>little more by ordering up a couple of them at once.). I and a friend just
>started our own company, in case you were wondering, called Toybox
Off-Road. We
>did it mostly to help buddies get lower prices on parts since most places
want
>to rape and pillage (spelling?) by making too much money just for being the
>middle man.
>
>If anyone has more questions on this, just drop me a line and I can fill
you in.
>
>--
>Jay-Bird (www.goodnet.com/~eller)
>'83 CJ7
>DougB wrote:
>
>> Optimas are well worth it, IMO. For your described use, and red top
sounds
>> like it would suit your needs. The best price I found was at Batteries
Plus,
>> in Chandler (Elliot and Dobson - I think).
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Tom Quinn <tquinn@u...>
>> To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 9:18 PM
>> Subject: [az_vjc] Battery and wiring
>>
>> > Well, it appears the battery in my '91 YJ has finally bit the dust. I
>> > need to replace it, so what are the opinions on Optimas? Are they
>> > worth the extra cash? The electrical system (wiring, alternator) are
>> > stock. The Jeep is a daily driver and sees moderate off-road use. I
>> > saw a deal in the AZVJC business directory for Optimas, but with these
>> > high gas prices, I'd be behind after driving from Gilbert to Glendale.
>> >
>> > Also, I had to replace my positive battery cable last fall. All I
>> > could find, except the $100 one from the dealer, was a cable from Napa.
>> > It's pretty cheaply made and didn't quite have the right end on it for
>> > the smaller 2nd wire. Anyone know where I can find a higher quality
>> > cable? I'm thinking I'll want one if I decide to go with the Optima.
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>> > Tom
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6812 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 8:12pm
Subject: Re: Pam's Jeep
There's an old flat fender for sale on Stapley south of Brown. Split front window model. It might be a Ford. Looks pretty clean.... No emissions. You can do whatever you want with it. I'll get a phone number if you're interested.
Linda
O'Boyle, David wrote:
I have seen a CJ7 at http://www.aztrailwerks.com/ it is red and is like
$5500.00 bucks..
I pass by it every day on my way home from work and want to stop in and
check it out more and more every day.. But they arn't open at 7am so I just
keep on drivin..
Dave (AZXJ)
-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@cpinet.com]
Sent: Saturday, March 18, 2000 6:05 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Pam's Jeep
Hello all
After many hours of discussion, Pam has changed her mind about getting a TJ.
Don't panic.........she still wants a Jeep - but we're going to build one.
The deciding factor was the question "What would you do if you rolled a
vehicle that we still owe money on?"
We've decided to shop around for a project CJ.......something that we can
buy in full and build up to the specs she wants. That way we/she doesn't
have to worry about things like resale value, full coverage insurance, etc,
etc, etc.
So.......does anybody have a good line on a potential project vehicle that
they aren't going to buy for themselves?
Len and Pam
'78 J-10 looking for a CJ
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6813 From: Tom Quinn <tom@q...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 8:26pm
Subject: Re: Trailers
My wife and I started looking for campers recently and spent a couple
of hours at Little Dealer Little Prices on Country Club/202 Friday. We
looked at the Coleman pop-ups, which I'm hearing is about the best
brand out there right now (that's the word in camping message boards).
We were quite impressed by them since we've never been in one. You can
get slide-outs in those things now! They ran all the way up to $12,000
fully loaded with slide-outs, cassette toilets and indoor showers. We
looked at the Sante Fe model, added the toilet, hot water heater,
furnace, 3-way fridge and awning and was at $9,500 out the door. That
included wiring the Jimmy for the 7 prong plug, tax, title and license.
They had a "show" going on, so the price was supposedly a "show
price". Coleman has a special going on too...free screen room or $299
A/C unit.
The salesman we talked to said he has the Coleman Utah and pulls it
behind his '95 YJ. He put about a 7" lift kit on the trailer so he
could take it offroad. I guess he pulls it down to Mexico and on
hunting trips.
We were really impressed with the Coleman's, but will probably need to
find a used one to get the price down a little bit. The pop-up should
fit in your garage too if you don't have an RV gate.
www.fleetwood.com or www.littledealer.com
Tom
"joe west" <joefwes-@h...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6807
> Hi Larry,
>
> If you find out anything, let me know. I'm interested in tent
trailers as
> well.
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe West
>
> >From: "Larry Farquhar" <lfar@h...>
> >To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Trailers
> >Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 16:10:30 -0700
> >
> >
> >Hope everyone is having a great weekend!
> >
> >I'm looking for recommendations on a camping trailer for a CJ5. What
is the
> >largest recommended length and GVWR to tow? The CJ5 has stock AMC
405
> >engine
> >and 3-speed. My wife doesn't want to tent camp, and I can't afford a
> >Motorhome, insurance, gas, and storage. So a fair compromise would
be a
> >tent
> >trailer. Any suggestions, experience or words of wisdom?
> >
> >Larry
> >'75 CJ5
> >
> >
6814 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Sun Mar 19, 2000 9:44pm
Subject: Re: Trailers
saw these on www.azfamily.com free classifieds.
03/16/2000
Curtis Ferguson
Phone: 480-598-8532
Email: skaterboy_8@h...
For sale
1992 Coleman Pop-UP Camper
Model Seneca
Sleeps 6 people
Length/width 22'5"by6'8"
Weight 1,400
Extras microwave,awning,and screen room
$2500.00 o.b.o.
03/09/2000
1999 Coleman Seapine Tent Trailer
Phone: 480-610-6754
Email: mckelfam@m...
If you are looking for a home
away from home,this is for you.
Sleeps 6-8,elect/gas Frig,Heater,
Outside Hot shower,water heater
electric brakes,deluxe screen room
and much more. Used 3X New Cond
Moving Must Sell Immed. $4800.OBO
Call or e-mail Michele
6815 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 0:47am
Subject: Anyoone recognize this Jeep?
Ran across this the other day........
WILDCAT
1955 WILLYS CJ3B
Custom Everything
http://drive.to/yldkat55
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6816 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 5:04am
Subject: Re: Tax Relief Run, YOUR Invitation
I may be in. (Would be my first run with azvjc!) And I may bring
some buddies. Can anyone tell about what this run would be rated
so I can inform my buddies? Thanks.
-Roger
6817 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Mon Mar 20, 2000 5:03am
Subject: Re: Tax Relief Run, YOUR Invitation
1-5 there are obsticles for everyone easy to hard.....
Dave (AZXJ)
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2000 6:05 AM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Tax Relief Run, YOUR Invitation
I may be in. (Would be my first run with azvjc!) And I may bring
some buddies. Can anyone tell about what this run would be rated
so I can inform my buddies? Thanks.
-Roger
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