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6417 From: Chris Radcoon <My1stJeep@e...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 0:40pm
Subject: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


The last two days now I have gone out to my 97TJ, with the 4 banger, to get
something I left in it, out and noticed a large
amount of water under it. The first day was after heavy rains so I ignored
it. Today I have it again.

The leak is coming out of a small hose protruding from the firewall, on the
passengers side, near the bottom. It has been
just cold enough to run the heater, could this be some condensation from
running the heater? To me ther is way too much
water on the ground for that. What would that hose be coming from other than
the heater?

Please help... don't want my TJ to leak to death.

Thanks
Chris





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6418 From: ROBERT NYBERG <r.nyberg@w...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 0:52pm
Subject: Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


Chris

Newer vehicles will quite often run the a/c compressor with the heater/defroster
to take moisture out. My Toyota truck does this. If it is water then don't worry
about it. Sometimes in humid weather I get quite a bit of drainage. If it is
condensation, it should only drain for a few minutes when you shut the engine
off.

Bob

Chris Radcoon wrote:

> The last two days now I have gone out to my 97TJ, with the 4 banger, to get
> something I left in it, out and noticed a large
> amount of water under it. The first day was after heavy rains so I ignored
> it. Today I have it again.
>
> The leak is coming out of a small hose protruding from the firewall, on the
> passengers side, near the bottom. It has been
> just cold enough to run the heater, could this be some condensation from
> running the heater? To me ther is way too much
> water on the ground for that. What would that hose be coming from other than
> the heater?
>
> Please help... don't want my TJ to leak to death.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
>
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6419 From: Nnote <nnote@n...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 1:02pm
Subject: New job etc.


Hey all,
I am starting a new and MUCH better paying job here in about 2 weeks. Finally I will be able to start getting my Jeep back in a completly reliable state. I had been missing most runs for quite a while now because of lack of funds. My Jeep has been slowly falling into disrepair. Well, no more. First thing on the list, a tranny rebuild. Any Suggestions?! Ken is your dad's shop open?
Nick

Nnote@neta.com
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6420 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 1:04pm
Subject: Re: New job etc.


Hey! Good news, Nick. We have been missing you out there.

Jon


At 02:02 PM 3/9/2000 -0700, you wrote:

Hey all,
I am starting a new and MUCH better paying job here in about 2 weeks.

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6421 From: mike stenson <mstens1@y...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 1:35pm
Subject: Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


I know XJ's and ZJ's and WJ's use the A/C compressor when running the
defroster, Im pretty sure that the TJ does as well, but having never
had one...

mike

robert nyberg <r.nyber-@w...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6418
> Chris
>
> Newer vehicles will quite often run the a/c compressor with the
heater/defroster
> to take moisture out. My Toyota truck does this. If it is water then
don't worry
> about it. Sometimes in humid weather I get quite a bit of drainage.
If it is
> condensation, it should only drain for a few minutes when you shut
the engine
> off.
>
> Bob
>
> Chris Radcoon wrote:
>
> > The last two days now I have gone out to my 97TJ, with the 4
banger, to get
> > something I left in it, out and noticed a large
> > amount of water under it. The first day was after heavy rains so I
ignored
> > it. Today I have it again.
> >
> > The leak is coming out of a small hose protruding from the
firewall, on the
> > passengers side, near the bottom. It has been
> > just cold enough to run the heater, could this be some condensation
from
> > running the heater? To me ther is way too much
> > water on the ground for that. What would that hose be coming from
other than
> > the heater?
> >
> > Please help... don't want my TJ to leak to death.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Chris
> >
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6422 From: mike stenson <mstens1@y...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 1:39pm
Subject: Re: Rubicon Jeep Jamboree


I have never gone to the Rubicon Jambo, however I have done the
Rubicon. I would say that its maybe a 3.5 trail for the most part.
You can certainley make it as hard as you want to, but there are few
obstacles that are absolutely required. Last time I was there Chrysler
was running 20 stock TJ's through there and well they piled a lot of
rocks, but it didnt look like there was too much damage. Id say you're
probably setup for it, but I would recommend rocker panel protection.
The entrance to the trail at Loon Lake will beat them otherwise.

mike

chris radcoon <my1stjee-@e...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6409
> What trail ratings are there? I am a novice(that is giving me too
much
> credit) when it comes to rock crawling. My experience is all dunes,
mud,
> hills etc... I only have a 2" spacer lift with 31x10.5 tires so I
would
> have concerns trying some of the higher rated trails.
>
> Thanks
> Chris


6423 From: josh ragan <joshragan@y...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 1:47pm
Subject: Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


The TJ does also. I thought I had the same problem.
kick on the defroster and you will see the compressor
clutch ingauge, change to heat and it turns off.

--- mike stenson <mstens1@y...> wrote:
> I know XJ's and ZJ's and WJ's use the A/C compressor
> when running the
> defroster, Im pretty sure that the TJ does as well,
> but having never
> had one...
>
> mike
>
> robert nyberg <r.nyber-@w...> wrote:
> original
>
article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6418
> > Chris
> >
> > Newer vehicles will quite often run the a/c
> compressor with the
> heater/defroster
> > to take moisture out. My Toyota truck does this.
> If it is water then
> don't worry
> > about it. Sometimes in humid weather I get quite a
> bit of drainage..
> If it is
> > condensation, it should only drain for a few
> minutes when you shut
> the engine
> > off..
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > Chris Radcoon wrote:
> >
> > > The last two days now I have gone out to my
> 97TJ, with the 4
> banger, to get
> > > something I left in it, out and noticed a large
> > > amount of water under it. The first day was
> after heavy rains so I
> ignored
> > > it. Today I have it again..
> > >
> > > The leak is coming out of a small hose
> protruding from the
> firewall, on the
> > > passengers side, near the bottom. It has been
> > > just cold enough to run the heater, could this
> be some condensation
> from
> > > running the heater? To me ther is way too much
> > > water on the ground for that. What would that
> hose be coming from
> other than
> > > the heater?
> > >
> > > Please help... don't want my TJ to leak to
> death..
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
>
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6424 From: Chris Radcoon <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 1:44pm
Subject: Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


How about for over an hour?

Chris
--------------------------------------------------------------------

On Thu, 09 Mar 2000 13:52:39 -0700, r.nyberg@w... wrote:

> Chris
>
> Newer vehicles will quite often run the a/c compressor with the
heater/defroster
> to take moisture out. My Toyota truck does this. If it is water then
don't worry
> about it. Sometimes in humid weather I get quite a bit of drainage. If it
is
> condensation, it should only drain for a few minutes when you shut the
engine
> off.
>
> Bob
>
> Chris Radcoon wrote:
>
> > The last two days now I have gone out to my 97TJ, with the 4 banger, to
get
> > something I left in it, out and noticed a large
> > amount of water under it. The first day was after heavy rains so I
ignored
> > it. Today I have it again.
> >
> > The leak is coming out of a small hose protruding from the firewall, on
the
> > passengers side, near the bottom. It has been
> > just cold enough to run the heater, could this be some condensation
from
> > running the heater? To me ther is way too much
> > water on the ground for that. What would that hose be coming from other
than
> > the heater?
> >
> > Please help... don't want my TJ to leak to death.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Chris
> >
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6425 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 7:01am
Subject: Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


whats a heater????
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6426 From: Chris Radcoon <My1stJeep@e...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 2:14pm
Subject: Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


It is this really cool, or hot depending on how you look at it, feature
installed in most vehicles. When you turn in it on, you can select the
tempature to your liking and it will heat up the vehicle, inside only, to
your liking. You can reduce the temp if it begins to get to warm. It is
the opposite of air conditioning. It works much the same way your house
heating and cooling system works. It is also only necessary when your wife
is carpooling with you to work.

Chris


6427 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 2:19pm
Subject: Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


Yes it does....the a/c is running when you move the lever to defrost.

Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
http://home.off-road.com/~stu

>-----Original Message-----
>From: mike stenson [mailto:mstens1@y...]
>Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 14:35
>To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep
>
>
>I know XJ's and ZJ's and WJ's use the A/C compressor when running the
>defroster, Im pretty sure that the TJ does as well, but having never
>had one...
>
>mike
>
>robert nyberg <r.nyber-@w...> wrote:
>original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6418
>> Chris
>>
>> Newer vehicles will quite often run the a/c compressor with the
>heater/defroster
>> to take moisture out. My Toyota truck does this. If it is water then
>don't worry
>> about it. Sometimes in humid weather I get quite a bit of drainage.
>If it is
>> condensation, it should only drain for a few minutes when you shut
>the engine
>> off.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>> Chris Radcoon wrote:
>>
>> > The last two days now I have gone out to my 97TJ, with the 4
>banger, to get
>> > something I left in it, out and noticed a large
>> > amount of water under it. The first day was after heavy rains so I
>ignored
>> > it. Today I have it again.
>> >
>> > The leak is coming out of a small hose protruding from the
>firewall, on the
>> > passengers side, near the bottom. It has been
>> > just cold enough to run the heater, could this be some condensation
>from
>> > running the heater? To me ther is way too much
>> > water on the ground for that. What would that hose be coming from
>other than
>> > the heater?
>> >
>> > Please help... don't want my TJ to leak to death.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Chris
>> >
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6428 From: <sinanturel@y...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 2:42pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: 4X4 MEETING


Hum, Lets see the spider gears(pinion) rotates around the side
gears,
and there is a ratio here, it is not one to one(1:1)

What I am trying to get at here is for a open diff if you spin one tire
one revolution, and the ring and pinion ratio is 3.08:1, then the
driveshaft will not turn a little over 3 times, you are leaving out
the ratio of the spider gears(pinion) to the side gears.

Try it and do the math you will see.



jay eller <four_by_nu-@n...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6416
> Not quite. With an open diff, you leave the opposite side tire on the
> ground. It won't turn that way. Therefore you don't need a buddy or
really
> long arms. If you have the entire rearend in the air and you have an
open
> diff, then yes, someone does have to turn the other tire. But with
one on
> the ground it solves that problem. Also, somone asked about the
spiders or
> pinion and that I might be leaving something out. The spider gears
are a
> wash since they are all the same size and there is one on the other
side. As
> for the pinioin, that is half of what is making the ratio. It IS
included in
> this method. You'd have to see one in operation to understand. Take
my word
> for it, this method works. I and MANY others have done it. It's a
great
> junk yard check when your looking for a new axle and can't read the
tags on
> the axle.
> --
> -Jay-Bird (http://www.goodnet.com/~eller)


6429 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 3:03pm
Subject: Re: New job etc.


Nick,

Your YJ should have either the dreaded Peugot tranny or an AX-5.

Have you considered swapping in something better?



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6430 From: William Mish <yldkat55@h...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 3:23pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: 4X4 MEETING


Just my opinion, but I think you're wrong. There are 2 spider gears and 2 side gears. The 2 spider gears will rotate around the stationary side gear at the same speed. There is no reduction or ratio in this. Now, if you were to jack BOTH wheels off the ground, turn the pinion, you will see one tire spin backwards and one tire spin forward. It is in this situation, I believe, if there were a reduction or ratio for spider gears to side gears, it would become apparent. Hay, Have a great day. I'm going to the Rock Crawling Championships.
WILDCAT
1955 WILLYS CJ3B
Custom Everything
http://drive.to/yldkat55

----- Original Message -----
From: sinanturel@yahoo.com
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 3:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fwd: 4X4 MEETING


Hum, Lets see the spider gears(pinion) rotates around the side
gears,
and there is a ratio here, it is not one to one(1:1)

What I am trying to get at here is for a open diff if you spin one tire
one revolution, and the ring and pinion ratio is 3.08:1, then the
driveshaft will not turn a little over 3 times, you are leaving out
the ratio of the spider gears(pinion) to the side gears.

Try it and do the math you will see.



jay eller four_by_nu-@netzero.net wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6416
> Not quite. With an open diff, you leave the opposite side tire on the
> ground. It won't turn that way. Therefore you don't need a buddy or
really
> long arms. If you have the entire rearend in the air and you have an
open
> diff, then yes, someone does have to turn the other tire. But with
one on
> the ground it solves that problem. Also, somone asked about the
spiders or
> pinion and that I might be leaving something out. The spider gears
are a
> wash since they are all the same size and there is one on the other
side. As
> for the pinioin, that is half of what is making the ratio. It IS
included in
> this method. You'd have to see one in operation to understand. Take
my word
> for it, this method works. I and MANY others have done it. It's a
great
> junk yard check when your looking for a new axle and can't read the
tags on
> the axle.
> --
> -Jay-Bird (http://www.goodnet.com/~eller)



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6431 From: Mike Pawlowski <mike.pawlowski@s...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 4:13pm
Subject: Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


EXACTLY Stu :)) The sole purpose of this is to remove moisture (Which air
conditioning does naturally) from the cab thereby removing the fog off your
windows faster :) Just my two cents :))))


Mike Pawlowski
90 GM Z-71 StepSide
81 K-5 Blazer
2000 TJ (Soon, Thanks to Stu ) HAHAHA


----- Original Message -----
From: "Stu Olson" <solson8@u...>
To: "mike stenson" <mstens1@y...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 3:19 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


> Yes it does....the a/c is running when you move the lever to defrost.
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
> http://www.users.uswest.net/~solson8
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: mike stenson [mailto:mstens1@y...]
> >Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 14:35
> >To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep
> >
> >
> >I know XJ's and ZJ's and WJ's use the A/C compressor when running the
> >defroster, Im pretty sure that the TJ does as well, but having never
> >had one...
> >
> >mike
> >
> >robert nyberg <r.nyber-@w...> wrote:
> >original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6418
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> Newer vehicles will quite often run the a/c compressor with the
> >heater/defroster
> >> to take moisture out. My Toyota truck does this. If it is water then
> >don't worry
> >> about it. Sometimes in humid weather I get quite a bit of drainage.
> >If it is
> >> condensation, it should only drain for a few minutes when you shut
> >the engine
> >> off.
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> Chris Radcoon wrote:
> >>
> >> > The last two days now I have gone out to my 97TJ, with the 4
> >banger, to get
> >> > something I left in it, out and noticed a large
> >> > amount of water under it. The first day was after heavy rains so I
> >ignored
> >> > it. Today I have it again.
> >> >
> >> > The leak is coming out of a small hose protruding from the
> >firewall, on the
> >> > passengers side, near the bottom. It has been
> >> > just cold enough to run the heater, could this be some condensation
> >from
> >> > running the heater? To me ther is way too much
> >> > water on the ground for that. What would that hose be coming from
> >other than
> >> > the heater?
> >> >
> >> > Please help... don't want my TJ to leak to death.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Chris
> >> >
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6432 From: Mike <mchat@h...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 5:14pm
Subject: Re: Fwd: 4X4 MEETING


Ever notice how with an open diff, when one wheel stops, the other wheel spins twice as fast?

This is because of the spider gears. With an open diff, one wheel on the ground, count the

number of turns of the drive-shaft then divide by 2. If you have a locker, like a Detroit, you have

to jack up both wheels, turn one wheel (the other will turn by itself) and count the number of

turns of the drive-shaft. With one wheel on the ground, the locker might release, allowing the

wheel to spin semi-freely (a clicking noise can be heard, and you can feel it in the tire). If you

have a limited slip that still uses spider gears, it would be easiest to jack both wheels and have

a friend help you turn the other tire, while you turn yours.



Hope this helps,



Mike Chatfield

mchat@home.com

alt: mike.chatfield@rez.com



-----Original Message-----
From: William Mish [mailto:yldkat55@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 4:24 PM
To: sinanturel@yahoo.com; az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fwd: 4X4 MEETING



Just my opinion, but I think you're wrong. There are 2 spider gears and 2 side gears. The 2 spider gears will rotate around the stationary side gear at the same speed. There is no reduction or ratio in this. Now, if you were to jack BOTH wheels off the ground, turn the pinion, you will see one tire spin backwards and one tire spin forward. It is in this situation, I believe, if there were a reduction or ratio for spider gears to side gears, it would become apparent. Hay, Have a great day. I'm going to the Rock Crawling Championships.

WILDCAT
1955 WILLYS CJ3B
Custom Everything
http://drive.to/yldkat55

----- Original Message -----


From: sinanturel@yahoo.com

To: az_vjc@eGroups.com

Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 3:42 PM

Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Fwd: 4X4 MEETING



Hum, Lets see the spider gears(pinion) rotates around the side
gears,
and there is a ratio here, it is not one to one(1:1)

What I am trying to get at here is for a open diff if you spin one tire
one revolution, and the ring and pinion ratio is 3.08:1, then the
driveshaft will not turn a little over 3 times, you are leaving out
the ratio of the spider gears(pinion) to the side gears.

Try it and do the math you will see.



jay eller four_by_nu-@netzero.net wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6416
> Not quite. With an open diff, you leave the opposite side tire on the
> ground. It won't turn that way. Therefore you don't need a buddy or
really
> long arms. If you have the entire rearend in the air and you have an
open
> diff, then yes, someone does have to turn the other tire. But with
one on
> the ground it solves that problem. Also, somone asked about the
spiders or
> pinion and that I might be leaving something out. The spider gears
are a
> wash since they are all the same size and there is one on the other
side. As
> for the pinioin, that is half of what is making the ratio. It IS
included in
> this method. You'd have to see one in operation to understand. Take
my word
> for it, this method works. I and MANY others have done it. It's a
great
> junk yard check when your looking for a new axle and can't read the
tags on
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6433 From: T.J. Gill <ice626@h...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 7:39pm
Subject: No Subject


I know this has been answered to death, but I just don't have time to
go thru all of the messages....soooooo....could somebody who is camping
at the rock crawling deal let me know where everyone is going to be and
how to get there...I was just going to go on saturday but a friend
wanted to take is camper down tomorrow nite so I thought it would be
good to be with the group and finally meet some of you....will be
leaving mesa tomorrow nite around 6:30....any 411 would be greatly
appreciated....thanx

TJ
75 CJ (The Money Pit)(which is currently garaged waiting for its sunday
lift...)


6434 From: T.J. Nosmo-King <ice626@h...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 0:43pm
Subject: Re: Please Help... Leaky Jeep


so thats how I've been able to keep her out of it.....do the holes in the
fire wall where pedals, wires etc. go thru letting heat from the engine in
count????...if so, then I do have one of them thar new fangled heatin'
units...... :)
__________________________________________________ ____


6435 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@c...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 1:55am
Subject: "thanks to Stu"


>>Mike Pawlowski
>>90 GM Z-71 StepSide
>>81 K-5 Blazer
>>2000 TJ (Soon, Thanks to Stu ) HAHAHA


DaimlerBenz should really put Stu on the payroll........this makes the
second one "sold" (soon) thanks to him............

Len and Pam (soon to be Jeep-Mama)
'78 J-10 looking for a TJ


6436 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 8:01pm
Subject: Got Into An Accident ...


Well today on my way home from work I got rear ended by a red BMW 313i. The
lady driving blew through a stop sign (in front of a Police Office since
people always ignore that stop sign) and proceeded to embed the front of her
6 day old BMW onto my trailer hitch. Not even a scratch on my custom
bumper. She couldn't get her car to start up again and I think it was
because her car was about 6 inches shorter than it used to be and my hitch
was through her radiator. The policeman walked over and to make a long
story short, I pulled her radiator out of her car with my hitch while
getting the Jeep free so after some assistance with the officer we got the
radiator off the hitch and I was sent on my way while she waited for a tow
truck. When she hit me I think my heart stopped thinking what did she do to
my truck. I am happy to report no damage even after crawling under and
checking out the frame and gas tank. I feel sorry for her new car though.
She was a little upset that her airbags didn't go off since she hit me at
about 35MPH and I was going about 15 since I had just turned the corner.


6437 From: Len Sullivan <kermit@c...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 2:10am
Subject: Re: Got Into An Accident ...


Glad that your rig is ok, but the important thing is that YOU are
ok........you can buy parts for the Jeep - it's not that easy to fix you.

Isn't it nice to have a solidly built vehicle? I had a lowered mini truck
try to park under my truck last summer - the receiver hitch opened up the
front of his truck like a can opener. All it did to my truck was scrape
some of the rust off of the hitch. :-)

Len


----- Original Message -----
From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
To: AZVJC <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Got Into An Accident ...


> Well today on my way home from work I got rear ended by a red BMW 313i.
The
> lady driving blew through a stop sign (in front of a Police Office since
> people always ignore that stop sign) and proceeded to embed the front of
her
> 6 day old BMW onto my trailer hitch. Not even a scratch on my custom
> bumper


6438 From: Scott Kruize <osmtj@y...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 8:20pm
Subject: Re: Got Into An Accident ...


I like how the hitch impaled the radiator. That'll teach her to stop at the sign, lol

Scott



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6439 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 8:30pm
Subject: Re: "thanks to Stu"


Jeep....there is only one.

Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm

http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
http://home.off-road.com/~stu
http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer

-----Original Message-----
From: Len Sullivan [mailto:kermit@c...]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 2:55 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] "thanks to Stu"


>>Mike Pawlowski
>>90 GM Z-71 StepSide
>>81 K-5 Blazer
>>2000 TJ (Soon, Thanks to Stu ) HAHAHA


DaimlerBenz should really put Stu on the payroll........this makes the
second one "sold" (soon) thanks to him............

Len and Pam (soon to be Jeep-Mama)
'78 J-10 looking for a TJ





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6440 From: Rick Buddrus <buddrus@f...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 8:41pm
Subject: Re: Camp Site


TJ,

The fol.,lowing is from Linda's directions posted on Sunday as message
6204. It includes a map in PDF format. We will be driving up Friday
afternoon from Tucson. Hope to see you out there.

Rick Buddrus

Text of Linda's post follows............


Hi All,

I drove out the the Jamboree campsitejust as the National Guard was
leaving. They like to drive down the middle of the road and high speeds.
It's a good thing it was raining!

The Jamboree site looks great. I spent some time driving around it and
finally decided on the far east end. The campsite is easy to find and
can handle a large group including trailers, motor homes, etc.. It is
far enough off the road so that dust won't be a problem. Plenty of trees
for privacy and hanging solar showers.

Here's the directions.

Starting at Florence Junction (US60 and Hwy 79) go south (5.5 miles) to
Cottonwood Canyon Rd. Cottonwood Canyon Rd is just south of milepost
145 on the east side of Hwy 79. The entrance to the road is marked
with a flag pole. It is very easy to miss in the dark.

Go east on Cottonwood Canyon Rd. There is a fork in the road (3 miles).
Stay to the right. The road gets a little narrower and more washboard.

There are several entrances into the Jambore site on the left side of
the road after the fork. I think the first two are the easiest and
probably the best choices if you are coming in with a motorhome, large
travel trailer or car trailer. The next two have wash crossings that are
a little too steep.

After you enter the Jamboree site, head east. There isn't a road or
anything but there is plenty of room to maneuver. We'll be camped at the
far east end of the site.

I have attached a map in PDF file format. I hope it works.

I'll be camping there Thursday, Friday, and Saturday nights. I am not
sure what would be a good meeting time or place, but I would like to set
up camp before dark. My idea is to meet at the Texaco Thursday at
5:00pm and head out to the campsite. Sound good? I can also hang white
plastic markers (plastic grocery bags) on Cottonwood Canyon Rd to help
anyone who is coming out after dark find the campsite. If you are coming
out on Friday or Saturday, just head out to the contest and look for the
dark blue ZJ. I don't know where the event route is but I will be at one
of the obstacles.

Ted: I don't know who is volunteering from the Lo-Rangers, but if any
are planning on camping out this will probably be the least 'zoo-like'
place.

Linda
Attachment (application/pdf)map1.pdf






"t.j. gill" <ice62-@h...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=6433
> I know this has been answered to death, but I just don't have time to
> go thru all of the messages....soooooo....could somebody who is
camping
> at the rock crawling deal let me know where everyone is going to be
and
> how to get there...I was just going to go on saturday but a friend
> wanted to take is camper down tomorrow nite so I thought it would be
> good to be with the group and finally meet some of you....will be
> leaving mesa tomorrow nite around 6:30....any 411 would be greatly
> appreciated....thanx
>
> TJ
> 75 CJ (The Money Pit)(which is currently garaged waiting for its
sunday
> lift...)
>


6441 From: Mike Pawlowski <mike.pawlowski@s...>
Date: Thu Mar 9, 2000 8:51pm
Subject: Re: Got Into An Accident ...


Way to go for American Heavy Metal :)))

Mike Pawlowski
mike.pawlowski@s...
90 Chevy Z-71 StepSide (Concrete Jungle Runner)
81 Chevy K-5 Blazer (Well on its way to acting like a Jeep)
2000 TJ - Soooooon!! (Its All Stu's Fault)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Wirch" <wirch@m...>
To: "AZVJC" <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2000 9:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Got Into An Accident ...


> Well today on my way home from work I got rear ended by a red BMW 313i.
The
> lady driving blew through a stop sign (in front of a Police Office since
> people always ignore that stop sign) and proceeded to embed the front of
her
> 6 day old BMW onto my trailer hitch. Not even a scratch on my custom
> bumper. She couldn't get her car to start up again and I think it was
> because her car was about 6 inches shorter than it used to be and my hitch
> was through her radiator. The policeman walked over and to make a long
> story short, I pulled her radiator out of her car with my hitch while
> getting the Jeep free so after some assistance with the officer we got the
> radiator off the hitch and I was sent on my way while she waited for a tow
> truck. When she hit me I think my heart stopped thinking what did she do
to
> my truck. I am happy to report no damage even after crawling under and
> checking out the frame and gas tank. I feel sorry for her new car though.
> She was a little upset that her airbags didn't go off since she hit me at
> about 35MPH and I was going about 15 since I had just turned the corner.
>
>
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