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5641 From: Rick Hall <rnealh@y...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 4:59am
Subject: Anyone available for a run


I have this week off and was trying to get out for a
run on Wed 2/16. Anyone else interested????
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5642 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 5:38am
Subject: Re: Cleanup Weekend Report


Hi, everyone. Don't forget the Coves Cleanup on March 4 and 5. Primary day id the 4th (Saturday) I will post more instructions and information in the next couple of weeks.

Jon

At 07:21 PM 2/12/2000 -0700, linda luik wrote:

The Az G&F are planning more cleanups in the same area on March 3-4 and
April 7-8 from 9:00am to noon.

I was out there in the morning. I think the group picked up enough car parts
to build one!

Linda


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5643 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 6:51am
Subject: Re: 35's and other Stuff


The leafs are definitly getting removed, I had a couple of spots at Parker where my front articulation was working well but I would get air under my rear stiff Posi and that was it. Then all the work was on the front drive. Which by the way can pull you into things in the back...and break stuff. Spring over seems the way to go to get to a better comfort level on the tougher trails. The added clearence would be handy to.
----- Original Message -----
From: William Mish
To: Ross Skinner
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 3:13 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: 35's and other Stuff


Spring over. Allot of people talk negatively about "axle wrap-up" , Try real hard to ignore them. We'll still want to remove a few leafs out of your pack to soften them up a bit. Drivelines brake lines E brake cables will all have to be lengthened. Steering will have to be beefed up. You're going to want to put in heavy duty axle shafts in the front to spin those 35" tires. The spring over is going to lift you about 5", so you probably won't need to cut your fenders. You would probably be better off with offset wheels to push your tires as far away from the JEEP as possible, though. This will increase stability, and the amount of mud you pitch all over everything. I'm still toying with the idea of a spring over with stock springs. If we do this, it keeps you lower, Which is good as far as center of gravity, but doesn't help you much in the tires rubby da tubby department. Overall gains in height would be about 1" - 2", so we would have to bust out "pinky" the sawzall, and still do all the previously stated mods. The true benefit to this is soft flat springs ride and articulate better than arched ones. Tried to get you SOA before you bought that lift, but you were convinced your springs were shot. Like I said, though, I'm still undecided on pulling a few leaves out and SOA, or switching back to stock and SOA. I think the determining factor here is ride quality. So lets just pull a few springs out and see if you like the ride quality better, first. Then we'll make our decision. Either way, it's allot of work. Heck, with 2 leaves missing the thing might become a flex monster too. I have a ramp here at the house, so we can test our work. Just built it out of the old squat rack today. It isn't much to look at, but it should hold up just fine. Another benefit of spring over is greater ground clearance due to no springs, U-bolts, shock mounts below the axle to hang you up. Body lifts are ok, the only reason I did it was because it saved me $1500.00 on a new rear axle assembly I would have needed to go SOA. This is about the only time I would ever recommend one. The spring over will help you in the ground clearance dept. immensely, too.
WILDCAT
1955 WILLYS CJ3B
Custom Everything
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----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner
To: azvjc
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 10:11 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: 35's and other Stuff


Yep, 35's will need the space. The other question to decide is spring over or body lift?
Either way it is Billy with the Sawzall........
----- Original Message -----
From: William Mish
To: Ross Skinner
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] 35's and other Stuff


Heh, heh........ What is this strange affliction? "Honey, honest, something bit me while I was out there!" Just call me when you're ready to start cutting!!
WILDCAT
1955 WILLYS CJ3B
Custom Everything
http://drive.to/yldkat55

----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner
To: azvjc
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 9:25 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] 35's and other Stuff


Well, after all of the fun at Parker I have seen the light. Being locked in the front is fine for the loose stuff and 3-3.5 but with a manual trans and carb it is locked at both ends and 35's for me. Man was it a blast at Parker and I really learned some stuff while there. One is to chain your motor so if your mounts fail you do NOT chew your radiator. Two, low, low gears are the ticket for those rocks. Three, RPM is death to a stock front axel Ujoint when it grabs rock and is locked.
So, now all I have to do is beg and grovel for the funds to accomplish this slight upgrade.:-) By the way, Bill Mish and Greg Banfield helped me get my TeraLow4:1 in before the trip and I would have been in trouble without it.
Sorry my 33 BFG/MT's are not for sale, they are going on my Dodge 4x4 V10. Now I have to decide on which 35's to go with and which rear locker.
The fun never ends..
Ross
84 CJ7

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5644 From: Montana <ablmontana@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 7:34am
Subject: 1998 Grand Cherokee 5.9Ltd.


Hi everyone......I am new in this group and am happy to be aboard. Is there anyone else in our group that has the same kind of Jeep that I do? I am looking to connect with someone to talk about it and share whatever knowledge I can. Thanking you in advance especially after all that we get to read, I remain as unusual as the day is Sunday, Montana

5645 From: Lon Robinson <robinson@l...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 2:05pm
Subject: Y2K TJ Wheel


I have aquired a 15x8 factory aluminum wheel off of a Y2K TJ that is
brand new except for one small scratch on the edge. If anyone needs
is, just let me know and its yours. I live in Cordes Junction, but
work in Peoria, so I can bring it to the valley during the week.

Lon


5646 From: John Doe <jeepboy50@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 2:44pm
Subject: run


hey everyone, i have feb. 26th off and was going to do a chiva falls, in
tucson, run mid day or if anyone else has a run planned please let me know.
having a saturday off for me is a rare occurence so i want to take advantage
of it. thanx
jake
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5647 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 2:59pm
Subject: FS - jeep stuff


- 2 ProComp aluminum coil spring spacers (TJ/XJ/ZJ) - machined to 3/4 inch -
great for compensating for a winch - or to level your rig - $15 for both

- 3 tie rod ends - never used (1 w/ reverse thread) for a CJ-5/Universal
Jeep '62 to '71 - $20 for all 3

- 1 260 axle u-joint (w/ zerk) - never used - $10

- 2 10k toe hooks - $10 for both

- High Lift Jack mounting brackets - for front bumper or anywhere else - $15

- 4 h/d gas shocks from a stock TJ - 30" tire package - free to a good home.

Doug
azjeep@h...


5648 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 3:03pm
Subject: FS: r&p gears, tracloc, D35c


I recently replaced my Dana35c rear axle housing on my '98 TJ. The removed
axle has the factory Tracloc LSD in it which was still giving good
performance when the axle was pulled. I also have the matching 3.73 ring
and pinion gears for the front Dana30 axle. Mileage was in the 18K range
when everything was pulled off the TJ (most of that was seen on the street).

To the best of my knowledge, the D35's ring and pinion are still setup
correctly, which would save you about $250 in labor cost.

Asking ??? (make me a reasonable offer)

Stu



Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm

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-----Original Message-----
From: D&L [mailto:doug-louisa@h...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:51 PM
To: Jeep AzVJC; Stanley Fetherman
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar


yes - I feel that I am getting some additional rear articulation - seemed to
ride more level, and I got a bit more flex out of it...but not really
dramatically so. I think the main benefit is unloading the stock bar -
taking stress off the brackets, and allowing you to really dial in the rear
axle (in terms of position). I'm glad I got it.

Doug

----- Original Message -----
From: Stanley Fetherman <SFetherman@w...>
To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar


> Just wondering how the rear adjustable track bar did in Havasue this past
> weekend, any noticable difference in articulation ? I know two guys have
put
> them on, any report on satisfaction?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "DougB" <doug-louisa@h...>
> To: "Stanley Fetherman" <SFetherman@w...>
> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
>
>
> > I've also heard of the frame bracket breaking. With a stock bar and a CV
> > driveshaft w/ the pinion/axle rotated, there's a lot of stress back
there.
> I
> > was happy to loose the stock bar. The Tera bar eliminates all stress
from
> an
> > axle rotation, since it pivots at the connection of the bar and the
> control
> > arm end of the track bar.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Stanley Fetherman <SFetherman@w...>
> > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
> > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:20 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> >
> >
> > > Doug, one of the guys in the Rough Riders has replaced the Tera
bracket
> > > twice, finally went to the rancho hduty bracket. It seems it breaks
at
> > the
> > > top hole from twisting, no adjustable track bar.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "DougB" <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > To: "Stanley Fetherman" <SFetherman@w...>
> > > Cc: "Jeep AzVJC" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yes...the retention of the track bar relocation bracket is very
> > deliberate
> > > > and beneficial. Without the bracket, the rear track bar would be at
a
> > > > greater angle...which means that as your suspension cycles, you
would
> > get
> > > > excessive side to side movement of the axle in relation to the
> > frame/body.
> > > > The flatter the angle, the less side to side movement you'd
> get...which
> > is
> > > > why their bar retains the bracket.
> > > >
> > > > An added benefit to retaining the bracket is that you don't have to
> take
> > > the
> > > > f*****g thing off. I don't know about you, but I recall mine as
being
> a
> > > > PITA to install, so I was happy to leave it alone.
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Stanley Fetherman <SFetherman@w...>
> > > > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>; Dave A.
<sasakikojiro@e...>
> > > > Cc: Jeep AzVJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 5:22 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Can you speculate why tera did not engineer a track bar to
> eliminate
> > > the
> > > > > use of the bracket, seems like a bend in the adjustable track bar
> > would
> > > > > solve probelm with one piece? ---- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "DougB" <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > > > To: "Dave A." <sasakikojiro@e...>
> > > > > Cc: "Jeep AzVJC" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 4:43 AM
> > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, the only two I found were Tera and Rusty's. Rusty uses
1"DOM
> > > > > (hollow),
> > > > > > and is adjustable, via a collar...just like the drag link
> > uses...where
> > > > you
> > > > > > loosen 2 bolts and turn the threaded collar. Tera is a solid
bar,
> > with
> > > a
> > > > > > threaded end, onto which they've put a control arm end. Both
> > bushings
> > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Tera(on either end of the arm), and the flex joint are
greasable.
> > Both
> > > > > > Rusty's and Tera are priced similarly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tera recommends keeping the track bar relocation bracket, so as
to
> > > > > maintain
> > > > > > an acceptable angle on the track bar. A steeper angle (sans
> bracket)
> > > > would
> > > > > > give you too much side to side axle movement, as the suspension
> > > cycles.
> > > > On
> > > > > > Rusty's, the bracket is not retained.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Between the 2, the Tera is stronger, IMO (solid bar w/ control
arm
> > end
> > > > vs.
> > > > > > hollow tube w/ drag link type collar).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I took out the Jeep yesterday, but noticed no significant
> difference
> > > in
> > > > > rear
> > > > > > articulation. Parker will be the test though. The main benefit
is
> > > > getting
> > > > > > rid of all that stress back there (from the raised
pinion/rotated
> > > axle),
> > > > > and
> > > > > > being now able to clear the Tomkin. Also, now my axle is
perfectly
> > > > > centered.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doug
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Dave A. <sasakikojiro@e...>
> > > > > > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:08 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please let mek now what you think of their track bar.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I still have the RE track-bar relocation bracket on mine, and
it
> > > would
> > > > > be
> > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > to have a non 'patch-fix' item back there too..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > how much does it cost? As far as I know, only Rusty's
Off-Road
> > > offers
> > > > a
> > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > item, I think.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Dave
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
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5649 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 3:07pm
Subject: Re: FS - jeep stuff


Hey Doug,

I will take the alum spacers.....I guess we can do the same as last time if
you wish cod....or....how ever lyou see fit....matter of fact I will just
send you a check for 25.00 to cover shipping and the lot. just give me the
address and I will send the check first or at the same time.

Brian Harmon
88 XJ


On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:59:12 -0700, DougB wrote:

>
> - 2 ProComp aluminum coil spring spacers (TJ/XJ/ZJ) - machined to 3/4
inch -
> great for compensating for a winch - or to level your rig - $15 for both
>
> - 3 tie rod ends - never used (1 w/ reverse thread) for a CJ-5/Universal
> Jeep '62 to '71 - $20 for all 3
>
> - 1 260 axle u-joint (w/ zerk) - never used - $10
>
> - 2 10k toe hooks - $10 for both
>
> - High Lift Jack mounting brackets - for front bumper or anywhere else -
$15
>
> - 4 h/d gas shocks from a stock TJ - 30" tire package - free to a good
home.
>
> Doug
> azjeep@h...
>
>
> << File Attachment Removed: "text/html" >>


Brian Harmon
88 XJ, Dana44 rear w/ARB, DAna 30 FRont W/ Gearless LOcker ,3.5 in RE lift
Nationl rear leafs, MJ shackles, custom rock rails, custom skid plates,
trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG AT's KO's,
KC's, yada, yada, yada.





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5650 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 3:15pm
Subject: Re: FS: r&p gears, tracloc, D35c


Hey Stu,

I need the front dana 30 R&P for my cherokee if you wuold be willing to just
part with them I already got a set for the dana 44 from doug B awhile
ago....sure could use em......how much?

Brian Harmon
88 XJ


On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:03:03 -0700, Stu Olson wrote:

>
> I recently replaced my Dana35c rear axle housing on my '98 TJ. The
removed
> axle has the factory Tracloc LSD in it which was still giving good
> performance when the axle was pulled. I also have the matching 3.73 ring
> and pinion gears for the front Dana30 axle. Mileage was in the 18K range
> when everything was pulled off the TJ (most of that was seen on the
street).
>
> To the best of my knowledge, the D35's ring and pinion are still setup
> correctly, which would save you about $250 in labor cost.
>
> Asking ??? (make me a reasonable offer)
>
> Stu
>
>
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
> Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: D&L [mailto:doug-louisa@h...]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:51 PM
> To: Jeep AzVJC; Stanley Fetherman
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
>
>
> yes - I feel that I am getting some additional rear articulation - seemed
to
> ride more level, and I got a bit more flex out of it...but not really
> dramatically so. I think the main benefit is unloading the stock bar -
> taking stress off the brackets, and allowing you to really dial in the
rear
> axle (in terms of position). I'm glad I got it.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stanley Fetherman <SFetherman@w...>
> To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 8:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
>
>
> > Just wondering how the rear adjustable track bar did in Havasue this
past
> > weekend, any noticable difference in articulation ? I know two guys
have
> put
> > them on, any report on satisfaction?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "DougB" <doug-louisa@h...>
> > To: "Stanley Fetherman" <SFetherman@w...>
> > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> >
> >
> > > I've also heard of the frame bracket breaking. With a stock bar and a
CV
> > > driveshaft w/ the pinion/axle rotated, there's a lot of stress back
> there.
> > I
> > > was happy to loose the stock bar. The Tera bar eliminates all stress
> from
> > an
> > > axle rotation, since it pivots at the connection of the bar and the
> > control
> > > arm end of the track bar.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Stanley Fetherman <SFetherman@w...>
> > > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > >
> > >
> > > > Doug, one of the guys in the Rough Riders has replaced the Tera
> bracket
> > > > twice, finally went to the rancho hduty bracket. It seems it
breaks
> at
> > > the
> > > > top hole from twisting, no adjustable track bar.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "DougB" <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > > To: "Stanley Fetherman" <SFetherman@w...>
> > > > Cc: "Jeep AzVJC" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:14 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yes...the retention of the track bar relocation bracket is very
> > > deliberate
> > > > > and beneficial. Without the bracket, the rear track bar would be
at
> a
> > > > > greater angle...which means that as your suspension cycles, you
> would
> > > get
> > > > > excessive side to side movement of the axle in relation to the
> > > frame/body.
> > > > > The flatter the angle, the less side to side movement you'd
> > get...which
> > > is
> > > > > why their bar retains the bracket.
> > > > >
> > > > > An added benefit to retaining the bracket is that you don't have
to
> > take
> > > > the
> > > > > f*****g thing off. I don't know about you, but I recall mine as
> being
> > a
> > > > > PITA to install, so I was happy to leave it alone.
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: Stanley Fetherman <SFetherman@w...>
> > > > > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>; Dave A.
> <sasakikojiro@e...>
> > > > > Cc: Jeep AzVJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 5:22 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Can you speculate why tera did not engineer a track bar to
> > eliminate
> > > > the
> > > > > > use of the bracket, seems like a bend in the adjustable track
bar
> > > would
> > > > > > solve probelm with one piece? ---- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "DougB" <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > > > > To: "Dave A." <sasakikojiro@e...>
> > > > > > Cc: "Jeep AzVJC" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 4:43 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yes, the only two I found were Tera and Rusty's. Rusty uses
> 1"DOM
> > > > > > (hollow),
> > > > > > > and is adjustable, via a collar...just like the drag link
> > > uses...where
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > loosen 2 bolts and turn the threaded collar. Tera is a solid
> bar,
> > > with
> > > > a
> > > > > > > threaded end, onto which they've put a control arm end. Both
> > > bushings
> > > > on
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > Tera(on either end of the arm), and the flex joint are
> greasable.
> > > Both
> > > > > > > Rusty's and Tera are priced similarly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Tera recommends keeping the track bar relocation bracket, so
as
> to
> > > > > > maintain
> > > > > > > an acceptable angle on the track bar. A steeper angle (sans
> > bracket)
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > give you too much side to side axle movement, as the
suspension
> > > > cycles.
> > > > > On
> > > > > > > Rusty's, the bracket is not retained.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Between the 2, the Tera is stronger, IMO (solid bar w/
control
> arm
> > > end
> > > > > vs.
> > > > > > > hollow tube w/ drag link type collar).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I took out the Jeep yesterday, but noticed no significant
> > difference
> > > > in
> > > > > > rear
> > > > > > > articulation. Parker will be the test though. The main
benefit
> is
> > > > > getting
> > > > > > > rid of all that stress back there (from the raised
> pinion/rotated
> > > > axle),
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > being now able to clear the Tomkin. Also, now my axle is
> perfectly
> > > > > > centered.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Doug
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: Dave A. <sasakikojiro@e...>
> > > > > > > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:08 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please let mek now what you think of their track bar.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I still have the RE track-bar relocation bracket on mine,
and
> it
> > > > would
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > > to have a non 'patch-fix' item back there too..
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > how much does it cost? As far as I know, only Rusty's
> Off-Road
> > > > offers
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > item, I think.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -Dave
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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5651 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 3:19pm
Subject: Re: FS - jeep stuff


Doug,
The check is in the mail......hehehehhee It will go out in the morning!

Brian Harmon
105 S. Elden Street
Flagstaff AZ 86001

Thanks!
BrianHarmon

PS: I jsut had my welding shop build me 1/4" alum daimond plate for the
rear quaters of the cherokee....looks great...I jsut pulled off the factory
rubber moldings and am gonna replace them too....also a small guard for the
front fenders.


On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:13:11 -0700, DougB wrote:

> Hi Brian - If you like, just send me a check to:
>
> Doug Ballard
> 1891 W. Honeysuckle
> Chandler, Az 85248
>
> Shoot me your address again and I'll get them out. $25 should more than
> cover shipping...that way, we avoid COD on such a small amount.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: B H <boh105@e...>
> To: DougB <azjeep@h...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 4:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] FS - jeep stuff
>
>
> > Hey Doug,
> >
> > I will take the alum spacers.....I guess we can do the same as last
time
> if
> > you wish cod....or....how ever lyou see fit....matter of fact I will
just
> > send you a check for 25.00 to cover shipping and the lot. just give me
the
> > address and I will send the check first or at the same time.
> >
> > Brian Harmon
> > 88 XJ
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 15:59:12 -0700, DougB wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > - 2 ProComp aluminum coil spring spacers (TJ/XJ/ZJ) - machined to
3/4
> > inch -
> > > great for compensating for a winch - or to level your rig - $15 for
> both
> > >
> > > - 3 tie rod ends - never used (1 w/ reverse thread) for a
> CJ-5/Universal
> > > Jeep '62 to '71 - $20 for all 3
> > >
> > > - 1 260 axle u-joint (w/ zerk) - never used - $10
> > >
> > > - 2 10k toe hooks - $10 for both
> > >
> > > - High Lift Jack mounting brackets - for front bumper or anywhere
> else -
> > $15
> > >
> > > - 4 h/d gas shocks from a stock TJ - 30" tire package - free to a
good
> > home.
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > azjeep@h...
> > >
> > >
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> >
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5652 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 3:22pm
Subject: FS - NV231 Transfer Case


For Sale - NV231 T-Case from a 98 TJ (23 spline - input). It had 22,500miles
on it when removed. I ran it using synth DexronIII - and it's in perfect
shape. Comes w/ shift linkage and shifter - at no extra cost :o). It's set
up for a CV driveshaft and SYE).

$475 if you pick it up
$500 plus shipping, if I haul it to UPS

Doug
azjeep@h...


5653 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 3:27pm
Subject: Re: FS - NV231 Transfer Case


Doug,

I will gladly pay you tuesday for a transfer case today.......you trying to
break me!.....which sye is on it?

Brian Harmon


On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:22:28 -0700, DougB wrote:

>
> For Sale - NV231 T-Case from a 98 TJ (23 spline - input). It had
22,500miles
> on it when removed. I ran it using synth DexronIII - and it's in perfect
> shape. Comes w/ shift linkage and shifter - at no extra cost :o). It's
set
> up for a CV driveshaft and SYE).
>
> $475 if you pick it up
> $500 plus shipping, if I haul it to UPS
>
> Doug
> azjeep@h...
>
>
>
>
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5654 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 3:30pm
Subject: Re: FS: r&p gears, tracloc, D35c


Stu,

OK.....

Brian Harmon



On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:24:45 -0700, Stu Olson wrote:

> Hi Brian,
>
> Hold on for a while as I would really like to sell the entire works off
as a
> complete set to someone looking to redo their TJ....one of those "I have
> 3.07 gears and am looking to jump to 3.73 gears so I can do bigger
tires..."
> kind of thing. :)
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
> Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: B H [mailto:boh105@e...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 4:16 PM
> To: Stu Olson; az_vjc@eGroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] FS: r&p gears, tracloc, D35c
>
>
> Hey Stu,
>
> I need the front dana 30 R&P for my cherokee if you wuold be willing to
just
> part with them I already got a set for the dana 44 from doug B awhile
> ago....sure could use em......how much?
>
> Brian Harmon
> 88 XJ
>
>
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:03:03 -0700, Stu Olson wrote:
>
> >
> > I recently replaced my Dana35c rear axle housing on my '98 TJ. The
> removed
> > axle has the factory Tracloc LSD in it which was still giving good
> > performance when the axle was pulled. I also have the matching 3.73
ring
> > and pinion gears for the front Dana30 axle. Mileage was in the 18K
range
> > when everything was pulled off the TJ (most of that was seen on the
> street).
> >
> > To the best of my knowledge, the D35's ring and pinion are still setup
> > correctly, which would save you about $250 in labor cost.
> >
> > Asking ??? (make me a reasonable offer)
> >
> > Stu
> >
> >
> >
> > Stu Olson N7QJP
> > Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
> >
> > http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> > http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> > http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
> > Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: D&L [mailto:doug-louisa@h...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 6:51 PM
> > To: Jeep AzVJC; Stanley Fetherman
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> >
> >
> > yes - I feel that I am getting some additional rear articulation -
seemed
> to
> > ride more level, and I got a bit more flex out of it...but not really
> > dramatically so. I think the main benefit is unloading the stock bar -
> > taking stress off the brackets, and allowing you to really dial in the
> rear
> > axle (in terms of position). I'm glad I got it.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Stanley Fetherman <SFetherman@w...>
> > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2000 8:24 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> >
> >
> > > Just wondering how the rear adjustable track bar did in Havasue
this
> past
> > > weekend, any noticable difference in articulation ? I know two guys
> have
> > put
> > > them on, any report on satisfaction?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "DougB" <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > To: "Stanley Fetherman" <SFetherman@w...>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > >
> > >
> > > > I've also heard of the frame bracket breaking. With a stock bar
and a
> CV
> > > > driveshaft w/ the pinion/axle rotated, there's a lot of stress
back
> > there.
> > > I
> > > > was happy to loose the stock bar. The Tera bar eliminates all
stress
> > from
> > > an
> > > > axle rotation, since it pivots at the connection of the bar and
the
> > > control
> > > > arm end of the track bar.
> > > >
> > > > Doug
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: Stanley Fetherman <SFetherman@w...>
> > > > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 7:20 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Doug, one of the guys in the Rough Riders has replaced the Tera
> > bracket
> > > > > twice, finally went to the rancho hduty bracket. It seems it
> breaks
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > top hole from twisting, no adjustable track bar.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "DougB" <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > > > To: "Stanley Fetherman" <SFetherman@w...>
> > > > > Cc: "Jeep AzVJC" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 6:14 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes...the retention of the track bar relocation bracket is
very
> > > > deliberate
> > > > > > and beneficial. Without the bracket, the rear track bar would
be
> at
> > a
> > > > > > greater angle...which means that as your suspension cycles,
you
> > would
> > > > get
> > > > > > excessive side to side movement of the axle in relation to the
> > > > frame/body.
> > > > > > The flatter the angle, the less side to side movement you'd
> > > get...which
> > > > is
> > > > > > why their bar retains the bracket.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > An added benefit to retaining the bracket is that you don't
have
> to
> > > take
> > > > > the
> > > > > > f*****g thing off. I don't know about you, but I recall mine
as
> > being
> > > a
> > > > > > PITA to install, so I was happy to leave it alone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Doug
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: Stanley Fetherman <SFetherman@w...>
> > > > > > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>; Dave A.
> > <sasakikojiro@e...>
> > > > > > Cc: Jeep AzVJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 5:22 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you speculate why tera did not engineer a track bar to
> > > eliminate
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > use of the bracket, seems like a bend in the adjustable
track
> bar
> > > > would
> > > > > > > solve probelm with one piece? ---- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "DougB" <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > > > > > To: "Dave A." <sasakikojiro@e...>
> > > > > > > Cc: "Jeep AzVJC" <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 4:43 AM
> > > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, the only two I found were Tera and Rusty's. Rusty
uses
> > 1"DOM
> > > > > > > (hollow),
> > > > > > > > and is adjustable, via a collar...just like the drag link
> > > > uses...where
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > loosen 2 bolts and turn the threaded collar. Tera is a
solid
> > bar,
> > > > with
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > threaded end, onto which they've put a control arm end.
Both
> > > > bushings
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > Tera(on either end of the arm), and the flex joint are
> > greasable.
> > > > Both
> > > > > > > > Rusty's and Tera are priced similarly.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Tera recommends keeping the track bar relocation bracket,
so
> as
> > to
> > > > > > > maintain
> > > > > > > > an acceptable angle on the track bar. A steeper angle
(sans
> > > bracket)
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > give you too much side to side axle movement, as the
> suspension
> > > > > cycles.
> > > > > > On
> > > > > > > > Rusty's, the bracket is not retained.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Between the 2, the Tera is stronger, IMO (solid bar w/
> control
> > arm
> > > > end
> > > > > > vs.
> > > > > > > > hollow tube w/ drag link type collar).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I took out the Jeep yesterday, but noticed no significant
> > > difference
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > rear
> > > > > > > > articulation. Parker will be the test though. The main
> benefit
> > is
> > > > > > getting
> > > > > > > > rid of all that stress back there (from the raised
> > pinion/rotated
> > > > > axle),
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > being now able to clear the Tomkin. Also, now my axle is
> > perfectly
> > > > > > > centered.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Doug
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: Dave A. <sasakikojiro@e...>
> > > > > > > > To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2000 11:08 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Rear adjustable Track Bar
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Please let mek now what you think of their track bar.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I still have the RE track-bar relocation bracket on
mine,
> and
> > it
> > > > > would
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > nice
> > > > > > > > > to have a non 'patch-fix' item back there too..
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > how much does it cost? As far as I know, only Rusty's
> > Off-Road
> > > > > offers
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > > item, I think.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -Dave
> > > > > > > > >
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5655 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 4:06pm
Subject: Re: FS - NV231 Transfer Case


Doug,

So what kinda discount are we talking HHHHMMMMMMMMM?...hehehehe do You still
have the yoke end or did you sell the entire RE kit Seperately? or just the
driveshaft?

Brian Harmon


On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:53:44 -0700, DougB wrote:

> Well...it had the Rubicon Express SYE and CV Driveshaft - but I sold that
> separately (probably shouldn't have). It has a shortened output shaft for
> the RE SYE - drilled and tapped and ready to go. It's a 23 spline unit
(ie
> accepts a 23 spline tranny output shaft.
>
> Just one more purchase, and you'll be eligible for a frequent shopper
> discount!
>
> Doug
> azjeep@h...
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: B H <boh105@e...>
> To: DougB <azjeep@h...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 4:27 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FS - NV231 Transfer Case
>
>
> > Doug,
> >
> > I will gladly pay you tuesday for a transfer case today.......you
trying
> to
> > break me!.....which sye is on it?
> >
> > Brian Harmon
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:22:28 -0700, DougB wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > For Sale - NV231 T-Case from a 98 TJ (23 spline - input). It had
> > 22,500miles
> > > on it when removed. I ran it using synth DexronIII - and it's in
> perfect
> > > shape. Comes w/ shift linkage and shifter - at no extra cost :o).
It's
> > set
> > > up for a CV driveshaft and SYE).
> > >
> > > $475 if you pick it up
> > > $500 plus shipping, if I haul it to UPS
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > azjeep@h...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
> > Brian Harmon
> > 88 XJ, Dana44 rear w/ARB, DAna 30 FRont W/ Gearless LOcker ,3.5 in RE
lift
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> > trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG AT's
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trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG AT's KO's,
KC's, yada, yada, yada.





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5656 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 4:25pm
Subject: Re: FS - NV231 Transfer Case


Doug,

See how you are!....I will have to put it on hold for a week or two if you
still have it I will probably get it from you then


Brian Harmon



On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:20:51 -0700, DougB wrote:

> I sold the yoke and d/s as a unit - so it just has the shortened output
> shaft. I have the stock slip yoke, which you can have (at no extra cost
:o)-
> but you'd need to replace the output shaft to use the stock slip yoke.
Right
> now, it's set up to receive the RE kit. There are other kits (TeraFlex) -
> which come w/ a heavy duty output shaft and 1310 yoke - but they'd be
more
> $$ than the RE kit. The RE kit comes w/ the female yoke and adapter
plate,
> which bolts on to the output shaft (mine is drilled and tapped for this
> unit); and a CV driveshaft, at whatever length you'd need.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: B H <boh105@e...>
> To: DougB <azjeep@h...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 5:06 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FS - NV231 Transfer Case
>
>
> > Doug,
> >
> > So what kinda discount are we talking HHHHMMMMMMMMM?...hehehehe do You
> still
> > have the yoke end or did you sell the entire RE kit Seperately? or just
> the
> > driveshaft?
> >
> > Brian Harmon
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:53:44 -0700, DougB wrote:
> >
> > > Well...it had the Rubicon Express SYE and CV Driveshaft - but I sold
> that
> > > separately (probably shouldn't have). It has a shortened output
shaft
> for
> > > the RE SYE - drilled and tapped and ready to go. It's a 23 spline
unit
> > (ie
> > > accepts a 23 spline tranny output shaft.
> > >
> > > Just one more purchase, and you'll be eligible for a frequent
shopper
> > > discount!
> > >
> > > Doug
> > > azjeep@h...
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: B H <boh105@e...>
> > > To: DougB <azjeep@h...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 4:27 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FS - NV231 Transfer Case
> > >
> > >
> > > > Doug,
> > > >
> > > > I will gladly pay you tuesday for a transfer case today.......you
> > trying
> > > to
> > > > break me!.....which sye is on it?
> > > >
> > > > Brian Harmon
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 13 Feb 2000 16:22:28 -0700, DougB wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > For Sale - NV231 T-Case from a 98 TJ (23 spline - input). It
had
> > > > 22,500miles
> > > > > on it when removed. I ran it using synth DexronIII - and it's
in
> > > perfect
> > > > > shape. Comes w/ shift linkage and shifter - at no extra cost
:o).
> > It's
> > > > set
> > > > > up for a CV driveshaft and SYE).
> > > > >
> > > > > $475 if you pick it up
> > > > > $500 plus shipping, if I haul it to UPS
> > > > >
> > > > > Doug
> > > > > azjeep@h...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > << File Attachment Removed: "text/html" >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Brian Harmon
> > > > 88 XJ, Dana44 rear w/ARB, DAna 30 FRont W/ Gearless LOcker ,3.5 in
RE
> > lift
> > > > Nationl rear leafs, MJ shackles, custom rock rails, custom skid
> plates,
> > > > trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG
AT's
> > > KO's,
> > > > KC's, yada, yada, yada.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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lift
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> > trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG AT's
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88 XJ, Dana44 rear w/ARB, DAna 30 FRont W/ Gearless LOcker ,3.5 in RE lift
Nationl rear leafs, MJ shackles, custom rock rails, custom skid plates,
trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG AT's KO's,
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5657 From: <A8868542@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 2:00pm
Subject: Fwd: run


Al Dickson (Goat Boy)
81CJ7 (Blue Ox)
62 Scout 80 (Whoa Nellie)
98 Chevy 3/4T 4X4


From: A8868542@a...
Full-name: A8868542
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 21:59:48 EST
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] run
To: jeepboy50@h...
Count me in. When and where to meet. Bear Canyon & Tanque Verde?? What
time?

Al Dickson (Goat Boy)
81CJ7 (Blue Ox)
62 Scout 80 (Whoa Nellie)
98 Chevy 3/4T 4X4


5658 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 7:30pm
Subject: Fwd: Color Country Challenge


FYI. Sounds like an interesting trip for May. <long sigh> I wish I could
do it!
Linda


From: "Rob Bubala" jeep_cj8@h...
To: Offroad@o..., xj-list@m..., zj-list@m..., jeep-l@m...
Subject: [ZJ] Fwd: Color Country Challenge
Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:27:31 PST
Sender: owner-zj-list@m...
"Rob Bubala" <jeep_cj8@hotmail.com> writes:

I just received this.

Rob Bubala
Iron Horse 4x4s, Inc.


>From: "rich Mason" <redman_4x4@hotmail.com>
>To: lvjeepclub@hotmail.com
>CC: claymcanally@hotmail.com
>Subject: Color Country Challenge
>Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 09:52:34 PST
>
>Dear Fello 4-Wheeler,
> The Color Country 4-Wheelers are hosting the Color Country Challenge on
>May 25-28 in Cedar City, UT. It is a family orientated event that has 6
>trails a day with the ratings from 3-5+. Also the American Rock Crawling
>Championships will be held the same weekend in Cedar City, UT. You will be
>able to see the best rigs and drivers in the country. There will be a
>truck show with venders on Main Street, a live band, and easy access to
>everything in town with the trails only being a few miles away. Come see
>the other side of Utah and make new friends too! We would love for you to
>come to this event.
>
>
> For more information please contact
> Rich Klein at (435)-586-0313
> or e-mail us at degas4x4@mailcity.com
> or at redman_4x4@hotmail.com
> or see us at www.off-road.com/~cc4wd
>
> Thank You for your time and we hope to see your reply
>
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5659 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 7:47pm
Subject: FW: Agua Fria River bed closure


-----Original Message-----
From: O'Boyle, David
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 8:46 PM
To: 'Larry Maggio'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Agua Fria River bed closure


NO WAY!!!!!!!

DAMN IT!! I'm gonna have to go down there with one of the backhoes and move
thoes f@#$%^& barriers!!!!!
This is Complete B.S.
Any one know anything on this closure????????????????
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Maggio [mailto:lmaggio@p...]
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 8:39 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Agua Fria River bed closure


A fellow Jeeper (Steve w/YJ & Revolvers) posted this thread on Jeeps
Unlimited....

"Well it happened...My favorite wheeling area was officially closed
yesterday. This place I speak of is affectionatly known as "The River Bed"
and is about 1.5 miles from my house. On weekends you would normally see
about 50-60 Jeeps and trucks as well as 30-40 cycles, quads, rails and many
other types of off road vehicles. You had quite a diverse terrain to choose
from, anywhere from granite boulder hills to large mud pits and everything
in between including a 200' deep sand pit. This was my playground
everyweekend for the past two years...it was a gathering place for people to
test their rigs and to meet to talk about the next trail run we were going
to do.
No more...I was outside working on my CB yesterday and my neighbors stopped
by and asked me what happened to my playgroung..."What do you mean?". They
informed me that there were huge cement pillars and barracades closing off
the entrance with "No Tresspassing" boldly painted on them.

I couldn't believe this so I had to drive by to check it out. Sure enough,
completely blocked off...it brought a tear to my eye."

He is talking about the area out on Cambelback in the 115ish ave. I bet it
is the most popular offroad area in the state.


Larry




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5660 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 8:47pm
Subject: Agua fria riverbed


January 11, 2000


President Clinton will sign a proclamation today creating the Agua Fria
National Monument in Arizona. The President will also sign proclamations
creating the Grand Canyon-Parashant National Monument in Arizona and the
California Coastal National Monument, and expanding Pinnacles National
Monument in California.

This was from the BLM site..

Dave


5661 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 8:49pm
Subject: more on agua fria


NOW, THEREFORE, I, WILLIAM J. CLINTON, President of the United States of
America, by the authority vested in me by section 2 of the Act of June 8,
1906 (34 Stat. 225, 16 U.S.C. 431), do proclaim that there are hereby set
apart and reserved as the Agua Fria National Monument, for the purpose of
protecting the objects identified above, all lands and interests in lands
owned or controlled by the United States within the boundaries of the area
described on the map entitled "Agua Fria National Monument" attached to and
forming a part of this proclamation. The Federal land and interests in land
reserved consist of approximately 71,100 acres, which is the smallest area
compatible with the proper care and management of the objects to be
protected.
http://azwww.az.blm.gov/aguafria/afriaproc.htm
<http://azwww.az.blm.gov/aguafria/afriaproc.htm>
dave


5662 From: <BA914@a...>
Date: Sun Feb 13, 2000 4:10pm
Subject: Re: Agua Fria River bed closure


I seen this to. I get into the river bed from Glendale Ave. I headed south
for the two miles and almost couldn't get out of the river bed. deputy
sheriff asked what I was doing in the river bed, that it was posted. I just
told him I went in at Glendale and saw no signs.

Steve


5663 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Mar 13, 2000 9:54pm
Subject: Broken Arrow reminder...Saturday Feb 26th


Just a weekly reminder of an upcoming trip to Broken Arrow. It's a very
short/easy loop trail that takes anywhere from 1 hour to 2.5 depending on
traffic and stops.

There was a stock range rover on it today... other than a little slipping of
his small street tires and some scraping because of the long wheel base, he
did fine. This could be a good trip for first timers or stock jeeps.

I met up with the head Pink Jeep tour fella... Jim was a great guy to chat
with and has no problems with us being there as long as we are responsible.
The rest of the Pink Jeep drivers were polite... to some extent.


Larry


5664 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 14, 2000 7:10am
Subject: Re: FW: Agua Fria River bed closure


I thought the Agua Fria NM was north of Black Canyon City -- closer to the
Sunset Point Rest Stop. I didn't think it included any of the West Phoinex
portion of the river bed. I thought that the area that has been used as an
impromptu play area was privately owned.

Regardless of its status I think taking down the barriers would be considered
trespassing and not only could get you in a lot of trouble but give the entire
OHV community a back eye and bad press. This is the last thing we need!

Of course, all the folks who regularly use this area could get organized and
take action. The pen is stilll mightier than the backhoe!

Linda



O'Boyle, David wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: O'Boyle, David
> Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2000 8:46 PM
> To: 'Larry Maggio'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Agua Fria River bed closure
>
> NO WAY!!!!!!!
>
> DAMN IT!! I'm gonna have to go down there with one of the backhoes and move
> thoes f@#$%^& barriers!!!!!
> This is Complete B.S.
> Any one know anything on this closure????????????????
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Maggio [mailto:lmaggio@primenet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2000 8:39 PM
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Agua Fria River bed closure
>
> A fellow Jeeper (Steve w/YJ & Revolvers) posted this thread on Jeeps
> Unlimited....
>
> "Well it happened...My favorite wheeling area was officially closed
> yesterday. This place I speak of is affectionatly known as "The River Bed"
> and is about 1.5 miles from my house. On weekends you would normally see
> about 50-60 Jeeps and trucks as well as 30-40 cycles, quads, rails and many
> other types of off road vehicles. You had quite a diverse terrain to choose
> from, anywhere from granite boulder hills to large mud pits and everything
> in between including a 200' deep sand pit. This was my playground
> everyweekend for the past two years...it was a gathering place for people to
> test their rigs and to meet to talk about the next trail run we were going
> to do.
> No more...I was outside working on my CB yesterday and my neighbors stopped
> by and asked me what happened to my playgroung..."What do you mean?". They
> informed me that there were huge cement pillars and barracades closing off
> the entrance with "No Tresspassing" boldly painted on them.
>
> I couldn't believe this so I had to drive by to check it out. Sure enough,
> completely blocked off...it brought a tear to my eye."
>
> He is talking about the area out on Cambelback in the 115ish ave. I bet it
> is the most popular offroad area in the state.
>
> Larry

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5665 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 14, 2000 7:16am
Subject: Need information about trails with water features


Hi all,

I need information about trails that are regularly used that have permanent
water features (springs, creeks, lakes, etc.).

The only ones I can think of are the pools near Chiva Falls and Red Creek. Any others?

Thanks!
Linda

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