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5514 From: Melinda Zabritski <mzabritski1@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 0:33pm
Subject: Proposed Rocky Point
OK, I'm going down to Rocky Point to camp on the beach! No matter what
date gets picked, I know that not everyone will be happy - but TOO BAD!
I've only got a few weekends left in Arizona so, I'm proposing a beach
camp out for the weekend of February 19th - 20th.
Meet at the Fry's Super Electronics Store parking lot at Baseline &
I-10 at 3:00pm Friday February 18th.
Return to Arizona either Sunday or Monday (depending on who has
Washington's Birthday off).
As someone put it earlier, this is an inexpensive trip. Camping on the
beach is under $10 per night and then it's just survival money once you
take care of the gas and Mexican Insurance (this is mandatory).
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5515 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 0:37pm
Subject: Wanted - stock rims - cheap
I'm looking for 2 rims (5 on 4.5 bolt pattern). Width is not important (can
be 6" or 7"), nor is backspacing. They just need to be straight and
true....and cheap.
If you have any that are collecting dust...shoot me a note at
azjeep@h...
Thanks,
Doug
5516 From: Jay Eller <four_by_nut@n...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 1:02pm
Subject: Re: Wanted - stock rims - cheap
I've got 5 on 5.5's all day long. But doesn't meet your requirements. But if
for whatever reason you want them, let me know.
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83 CJ7
Part Chevy / Part Jeep >>>>> CHEEP!!
(Not to be confused with how it looks...)
DougB wrote:
> I'm looking for 2 rims (5 on 4.5 bolt pattern). Width is not important (can
> be 6" or 7"), nor is backspacing. They just need to be straight and
> true....and cheap.
>
> If you have any that are collecting dust...shoot me a note at
> azjeep@h...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug
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5517 From: <dirtdog@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 3:41pm
Subject: Grand Wagoneer for sale
If anyone is interested I have a friend who is selling a
Grand Wagoneer.
SPECS
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 4 door, maroon with the woody look
135k miles
full time 4 wheel drive, I think it has the vacuum switch
x-fer case
(quadratrac?)
360 V-8 runs strong
automatic tranny rebuilt @100K
ps/pb/ac etc....Leather seats
new steering gear (box)
Receiver
$3,500
Kevin Ogurchak
home 480-730-1549
work 480-507-3233
e-mail ogurchak@t...
5518 From: Tim Naylor <tim.naylor@w...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 4:01pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
I have never run the Terminator trail, but I have been there and walked it. I think you are asking for big trouble taking the rig you described in to Terminator. It looks like a trail requiring big tires and maximum clearance. That's just my opinion, maybe someone that has run it can confirm this or not. I think it should have a solid 4 rating.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lon [mailto:robinson@lankaster.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:05 PM
To: Todd Ahern; az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Kathy and I are interested, the TJ is 2"lifted, disco's, LSD rear, and stock 30x9.50. Any problems there? How is the possibility of a little bit later starting time (we live in Cordes Junction) and meeting at 7:00 makes us get up awfully early for a Saturday.
Lon and Kathy
Red 98TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Ahern
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd Ahern, or Gregg
Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at the McDonalds on Dear
vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is rated a (3+, 4)
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5519 From: tom le <tomle_85024@y...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 4:37pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
Tim & Todd,
You guys can count me in for this trip.
Tom Le
'94 ZJ With Highly Modified Off-road Vehicle
--- Tim Naylor <tim.naylor@w...> wrote:
> I have never run the Terminator trail, but I have
> been there and walked it.
> I think you are asking for big trouble taking the
> rig you described in to
> Terminator. It looks like a trail requiring big
> tires and maximum clearance.
> That's just my opinion, maybe someone that has run
> it can confirm this or
> not. I think it should have a solid 4 rating.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lon [mailto:robinson@l...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:05 PM
> To: Todd Ahern; az_vjc@eGroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
>
>
> Kathy and I are interested, the TJ is 2"lifted,
> disco's, LSD rear, and
> stock 30x9.50. Any problems there? How is the
> possibility of a little bit
> later starting time (we live in Cordes Junction) and
> meeting at 7:00 makes
> us get up awfully early for a Saturday.
>
> Lon and Kathy
> Red 98TJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Todd Ahern
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
>
>
> Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd
> Ahern, or Gregg
> Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at
> the McDonalds on Dear
> vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is
> rated a (3+, 4)
>
>
>
>
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5520 From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 4:46pm
Subject: Fw: Rims
-----Original Message-----
From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
To: azjeep@h... <azjeep@h...>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:37 PM
Subject: Rims
>I have 4 rims 5 4.5 from my comanche with center cap and trims $40.00
>I'm in gilbert Az # 813-2975
>
>
5521 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 5:40pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
Id like to ride along if someone has an open passenger seat.
Cheers,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Naylor
To: Lon ; az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
I have never run the Terminator trail, but I have been there and walked it. I think you are asking for big trouble taking the rig you described in to Terminator. It looks like a trail requiring big tires and maximum clearance. That's just my opinion, maybe someone that has run it can confirm this or not. I think it should have a solid 4 rating.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lon [mailto:robinson@lankaster.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:05 PM
To: Todd Ahern; az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Kathy and I are interested, the TJ is 2"lifted, disco's, LSD rear, and stock 30x9.50. Any problems there? How is the possibility of a little bit later starting time (we live in Cordes Junction) and meeting at 7:00 makes us get up awfully early for a Saturday.
Lon and Kathy
Red 98TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Ahern
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd Ahern, or Gregg
Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at the McDonalds on Dear
vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is rated a (3+, 4)
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5522 From: Lon <robinson@l...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 6:00pm
Subject: Re: XJ Skid Pans
I believe Skid row makes one for the XJ. I have one of theirs on the TJ and am impressed with the quality and it takes a hit well :-)
Lon
www.skid-row.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Leonard K. Pennock
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 6:49 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] XJ Skid Pans
Since I destroyed my xfercase skid plate on Sunday I'm in the market for
something better than the stock one. (Something about having ripped the
bolts out of the frame.
I have the NP242 Xfer case. Tomken machine makes a plate. I know that
everyone seems to like their stuff. Is there any other manufacture I
should look at?
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5523 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 6:40pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
Thats a quarter mile that I wont be taking my 3 month old TJ on :)
By the way Stu, the new tires on your Jeep look good. Who did the gear work?
Regards,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
To: Larry Maggio ; az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:11 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Larry,
The trail is about a quarter mile or so long if memory serves me.....someone correct me if I am confusing it with another one.
Stu
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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Maggio [mailto:lmaggio@primenet.com]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 6:41 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Id like to ride along if someone has an open passenger seat.
Cheers,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Naylor
To: Lon ; az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
I have never run the Terminator trail, but I have been there and walked it. I think you are asking for big trouble taking the rig you described in to Terminator. It looks like a trail requiring big tires and maximum clearance. That's just my opinion, maybe someone that has run it can confirm this or not. I think it should have a solid 4 rating.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lon [mailto:robinson@lankaster.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:05 PM
To: Todd Ahern; az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Kathy and I are interested, the TJ is 2"lifted, disco's, LSD rear, and stock 30x9.50. Any problems there? How is the possibility of a little bit later starting time (we live in Cordes Junction) and meeting at 7:00 makes us get up awfully early for a Saturday.
Lon and Kathy
Red 98TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Ahern
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd Ahern, or Gregg
Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at the McDonalds on Dear
vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is rated a (3+, 4)
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5524 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 6:48pm
Subject: New RE lift for TJ's
Looks pretty impressive. I think it is a 6" lift.... but look at the new
control arms. The arms will bolt to a new tranny crossmember which will be
flush with the frame rails.
http://www.harryworld.com/harry/newarms3.jpg
http://www.harryworld.com/harry/newarms2.jpg
http://www.harryworld.com/harry/newarms2.jpg
Larry
5525 From: <rskinner@s...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 7:55pm
Subject: Photos of PARKER02-00
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5526 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 8:26pm
Subject: Re: XJ Skid Pans
CactusLew@a... wrote:
>
> Leonard,
> I have a T-case skid plate on my XJ (w/ a 242), that I ordered from Rusty's
> Offroad. Take a look at his site, this skid saved mine on that same ledge in
> December. The ZJ that was behind me wasn't so fortunate.
>
> Lew
> 89XJ
Thanks. After looking at it and Tomkin I decided on the Rusty because
it was 3/16" steel instead of 1/8". Glad I made the correct decision.
BTW: when you bend up your crossmember they will be releasing a
transmission crossmember out of 3/16" steel in the next couple of
months.
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
5527 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 8:32pm
Subject: Re: XJ Skid Pans
The web site doesn't list it yet for an XJ and appears to only be an
engine skid. Anyway they do have an impressive looking product. Thanks.
>I believe Skid row makes one for the XJ. I have one of theirs on the TJ >and am impressed with the quality and it takes a hit
>well :-)
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
5528 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 9:11pm
Subject: Saturday Feb 11th
Any moderate runs planned? Around class 3 or 3+? I'm interested in either
a day or a night run. Probably would prefer a night run since I'm planning
on installing my Powertrax No-Slip Locker in the front of my TJ in the
morning but it could wait until the evening to do it.
Pete
5529 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 9:50pm
Subject: [Fwd: NEED YOUR HELP]
FYI
Linda
From: "Sandee McCullen" McCullen@w...
To: "Todd Zuercher" toddz69@j..., "Cliff Wintring" clifford.wintring@a..., "Dick Williamson" Azgg@p..., "Janet Williams" jkw5935@a..., "Ken Waddill" WADDILL@p..., "Lee Vetter" dsrtrydr@j..., "Nate VanKeuren" nathan.b.vankeuren@b..., "Don Tucker" donbe@c..., "Dec Thackston" decaturt@i..., "Rheal Tetreault" 4critter@f..., "Ron Stoddard" tlc4x4@p..., "Len Steinberg" lenaz@i..., "Jerry Steele" jsteele@a..., "Brian Spooner" duhmude@j..., "Bernie Southerland" BSOUTHER@I..., "Joe Smith" joeh@g..., "Marty Sindelar" sindelarm@h..., "David Shyrock" dshryock@s..., "Jon Sholar" jon.r.sholar@i..., "Todd Shepard" redrider@p..., "Doug Schulz" azsunlvr@p..., "Matt Schonthaler" schontma@r..., "Scott Sanders" brokenaxle@s..., "Mike Sandblom" msun@c..., "Joe Ruby" JoeRuby@w..., "Hoss Rogers" mrhossdog@a..., "Daniel J Rodriquez" Daniel.J.Rodriquez@i..., "Michael Ritzel" mritzel@a..., "Curtis Rhoades" secare@a..., "Mark Ragel" poolman58@a..., "Bill Pienups" billpie@a..., "Dave Peterson" gonzodave@y..., "Norm Petersen" r14141@e..., "Becky Petermann" 4critter@f..., "Gene Perry" gperry3@j..., "Bob Nyberg" r.nyberg@w..., "Frank Noel" sheepdip@g..., "Scott Nixon" nixon@s..., "Brad Musil" bmusil@a..., "Zane Morgan" ZMMORGAN@p..., "Steve Morehouse" almach@v..., "David Moerman" dem@e..., "Patrick Miller" spintheclown@h..., "Mike Mileski" broncos@a..., "Bill Mihailov" amy@s..., "Rick Micola" scrambler@u..., "Ed Melendy" mred@m..., "Jack McMahon" johnmcmahon@s..., "Todd McCullen" tbfab@i..., "Mike McCarthy" citi@g..., "Glenda & Richard Mansfield" kibbey@f..., "Gary MacLaren" ezrydr1@y..., "Linda Luik" minihummer@w..., "Kurt Loga" Logaks@h..., "Charles Lightner" light@e..., "Norm Lenhart" lenhart@o..., "Steve Lancea" steve.lancea@i..., "Don Lameyer" rrhe60@e..., "Mike Lachance" boarderguy@d..., "Jay Kopycinski" ryna10@e..., "Todd Kilen" takilen@a..., "Gary Keller" rockart@u..., "Kim Keith" kkeith@g..., "Wendi Kawa" wendi@t..., "Sam Katzdorn" purch@i..., "Keith Jones" protofab@p..., "Bill Jewett" ntajp@p..., "Ray Jenkins" rw9340@e..., "Taad Janson" taad@a..., "Russ Jacoby" rljacoby@a..., "Janine Ingles" ziggy@c..., "Bob Huffman" kachng@e..., "David Houk" r17706@e..., "Don Hicks" gunny3@w..., "Terry Heslin" theslin@p..., "Rodney Hayes" rockin@r..., "Dean Hathaway" deano@p..., "Steve Harwood" doghows@w..., "Randy Harral" bronco6677@w..., "Jon Hanna" spacho@s..., "Debbie Gory" debbie@r..., "Carl Goodwin" clgoodwi@s..., "Tom Gismondi" tgismondi@k..., "Ted Gersztyn" Tedg@p..., "Steve Findling" bciinc@u..., "Gary Fancher" fanchers@c..., "Leah Eliscu" eliscu@m..., "Scott Deuty" 4x4travel@s..., "Dec Thackston" decaturt@i..., "Brian Dawson" bcdawson@m..., "Richard Davis" tucsonrcd@a..., "Cliff Daniel" CDANIEL@I..., "Ed Cruess" cruessn2@a..., "Craig Corbin" Craig.W.Corbin@i..., "Steve Comstock" comstock@i..., "Lance Comstock" pti_access@e..., "Mason Coggin" masoncog@a..., "Robert F ****rum" Robert.F.****rum@i..., "Joe Chott" p18254@e..., "Frank Chance" chance@c..., "John Camoriano" Bronco@h..., "Richard Caldwell" RCLC@r..., "John Camoriano" Bronco@h..., "Eldon Brown" elb.lab@m..., "Bill Brown" xjzonie@m..., "Walt Brodzinski" wbrodzinski@c..., "Eric Boyer" boyerbrats@a..., "Marty Boetel" cboetel@a..., "Bev Bills" corralBCC@m..., "Joan Beck" fourby@c..., "Elliott Bartlett" ej.bartlett@w..., "Mike Bailey" mbailey345@a..., "Charles Bab****" charles.h.bab****@i..., "Tom Ashbeck" turtl@m..., "ASA4WDC" asa4wdc@a..., "Chuck Arnold" Charles.W.Arnold@i..., "John Adamow" johnadamow@L..., "Tom Alexander" thomas.alexander@i..., "Ray Anderson" raybec@s...
Subject: NEED YOUR HELP
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:59:46 -0700
IMPORTANT UPDATE........... CORRECTION.............CORRECTION..............
CORRECTION........... CORRECTION
I goofed on DIRECTIONS. PLEASE NOTE the clean up is at Mile Post 201!!!!!!!
This is just BEFORE the Gold Canyon Texaco Station. If you get to the light
at the Texaco Station...... Meadowbrook Drive......... you've gone too
far.
Hwy 60 to Mile Post 201. South side of Hwy 60.
We still NEED a lot more volunteers. Camping will be allowed on site for
those that want to stay.
We NEED to help Tammy Pike of State Trust Land Dept. She has been a GREAT
ally for 4-wheelers so hopefully we can show our appreciation by giving a
few hours to help. If this clean up / education project fails she will be
forced to close this area so please find a few hours in your time to help.
Wouldn't it be great to see all 900 ASA4WDC members on site??!!!
TO ALL OF YOU THAT FORWARDED THIS ORIGINAL MESSAGE ON TO FRIENDS............
PLEASE DO SO AGAIN SO THE CORRECTION GETS TO EVERYONE.
THANKS, Sandee
Subject: NEED YOUR HELP
IMPORTANT NOTICE TO 4-WHEELERS ..................
The State Land Department and Game & Fish NEED YOUR HELP...............
There has been a big push to close a number of acres of State Trust Land in
and/or near our cities boundries due to the recent directive re "Dust
Abatement". There is a large section of State Trust Land in the Apache
Junction area (Gold Canyon actually) that is used mainly by our fellow ATV
and motorcycle off-highway enthusiasts but local residents want it closed
due to "dust".
The State Land Dept and Game & Fish have joined together in putting together
a "control & education" plan in an effort to keep this area available to
off-highway use. If they cannot get it cleaned, signed and education out it
most likely will be closed.
THEY NEED OUR HELP.......... They are planning a CLEAN-UP and EDUCATION
project on February 11 & 12, 2000.
They are asking anyone and everyone interested in Off Highway use to show up
and help clean the area (approx. 1200 acres) and distribute State Land
Permit information to the users. They have this planned on one of the worst
weekends possible for ASA4WDC but here's the plan....... The Land Agencies
will furnish the trash bags and a large dumpster........ they want us to
patrol the area for trash, pick it up, and take it back to the gate area for
removal. There are some large pieces needing to be "dragged" or "hauled"
back but most is just trash. 4-Wheel Drive is not required.
Friday, FEB. 11, 2000: 9:00 a.m. - ???? Anyone that can make it out for a
few hours. Anyone retired that can spend some time??
Saturday, FEB 12 2000: As many ASA4WDC members as possible to work from 9:00
a.m. - 12:00 p.m......... The ASA4WDC Delegate meeting is at 1:00 that same
afternoon just a couple of miles down the road from the cleanup so hopefully
all the club delegates and board members can get moving a little earlier and
spend some time at the clean up prior to the meeting.
For the afternoon cleanup I would direct this request to those
recreationists that are not members of the ASA4WDC......... Virtual Jeep
Club, independent 4-Wheelers, the organized clubs that are not associated
with the ASA4WDC. Your help would be greatly appreciated......... and
needed.
DIRECTIONS: Highway 60 east to Kings Ranch Road. (There's a stop light with
a Texaco station just before Kings Ranch Rd) Stay in the right lane.
There is a gate directly across from Kings Ranch Rd. turn. Go south through
the gate. We will be meeting at 9:00 a.m. both days.
PLEASE R.S.V.P. Sandee McCullen at 480 832-8132 or email:
mccullen@writeme.com or leave a message with Tammy Pike's voice mail at
State Trust Dept.: (602) 542-2269 or email: tpike@lnd.state.az.us
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST........... OR FRIENDS AND
NEIGHBORS INTERESTED!!!!!!
5530 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 9:51pm
Subject: [Fwd: Lake Havasu 4x4 Desert Run]
FYI. Brian -- is this the one you were talking about?
Linda
Sender: nixon@s...
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 09:11:53 -0700
From: Scott Nixon nixon@s...
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Subject: Lake Havasu 4x4 Desert Run
Don't know anything about this event, other than what's posted on the web
page. It is the same weekend as the rock crawling championships though:
Golden K Kiwanis <GoldenKiwanis@webtv.net> wrote:
> We invite you to register today for this exciting event ... check out
> our webpage fore more info:
>
> http://community.webtv.net/GoldenKiwanis/LakeHavasu4x4Desert
Scott Nixon
5531 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 10:04pm
Subject: Re: Red Creek Environmental Assessment
Excellent points, Stu. I have a copy, so if (for any reason) you don't get
one, let me know and I'll shoot you one.
I'll be sending Mr. Lopez a letter on my thoughts about the closing. The
biggest concern I have is that it's the only road left which accesses the
west side of the Verde for many miles. All the others have been closed off.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
To: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Red Creek Environmental Assessment
> Thanks Doug,
>
> I wrote the ranger district office a letter asking for a copy. I also
> expressed my views on the Red Creek issue, explaining that until I had a
> copy of the EA in hand, I would not be able to address all the points.
>
> I hope everyone else in the group takes time to send Mr. Lopez their
> comments on closing Red Creek trail. If they don't hear from us, you can
> bet it is history. It still may be even if they do hear from us....but at
> least we can say we did not give up without a fight. For those of you who
> are sitting on the fence and waiting for the other guy to write the
letters
> and fight the fights, where would be all be if we all did it that way?
> (hint....sitting at home talking about how great it would be to find a
trail
> to ride on!)
>
> Thanks........Stu
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 8:48 AM
> To: Stu Olson; Jeep AzVJC
> Cc: Joe Ruby
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Red Creek Environmental Assessment
>
>
> No...it's not on line, as best I know. I'd think you could get a copy from
> the Cave Creek Ranger District (480-595-3300). It's about 54 pages long.
>
> Comments concerning the Assessment should be sent to :
>
> Delvin R. Lopez
> District Ranger
> Cave Creek Ranger District
> 40202 N. Cave Creek Road
> Scottsdale, Az 85262
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
> To: Jeep AzVJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Cc: Joe Ruby <JoeRuby@w...>
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 7:16 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Red Creek Environmental Assessment
>
>
> > Doug,
> >
> > Is the info you referenced available on-line? I would very much like to
> > review it. Any info you can give, or a direction you can point me in,
> would
> > be very much appreciated.
> >
> > I spent an over-nighter on Red Creek in December and it was most
> beautiful.
> > I agree that the vehicle impact appears to be quite limited, especially
> when
> > compared to other areas. I do hope we don't loose this one. If anyone
in
> > the group has never taken up a cause and feels like now is the time, you
> are
> > absolutely right.
> >
> > Thanks......Stu
> >
> >
> > Stu Olson N7QJP
> > Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
> >
> > http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> > http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> > http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 6:00 PM
> > To: Jeep AzVJC
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Red Creek Environmental Assessment
> >
> >
> > The E.A. is fresh off the presses on Red Creek. The objective is to
> > "...minimize or eliminate the adverse impacts of FR18 on riparian
habitat
> > along Red Creek". Basically, the proposal states that "Forest Road #18
> > would be closed or access would be limited". The study lists 6
> > alternative...with the Cave Creek District Ranger being responsible for
> > deciding which alternative will be implemented. the alternatives deal w/
> > grazing policy as well as possible road closure. For the purpose of this
> > e-mail, I'll only summarize the alternatives as they relate to FR18.
> >
> > Alternative A: Basically, keeping things as they are. Road would stay
> open.
> >
> > Alternative B, C, D, E, and F - close or limit access to FR18. They're
> > recommended alternative is C - which deals w/ limited grazing.
> >
> >
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5532 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 10:11pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
I'll probably be going...though I understand the trail is a strong 4 (as
opposed to a 3.5).
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Ahern <tahern@u...>
To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
> Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd Ahern, or Gregg
> Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at the McDonalds on Dear
> vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is rated a (3+, 4)
>
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5533 From: Eric Herring <herring@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 10:14pm
Subject: Re: Saturday Feb 11th
I'll be in the northwest valley with a few hours to kill Saturday afternoon.
Does anyone know of any trails in that area?
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Wirch [mailto:wirch@m...]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:12 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Saturday Feb 11th
Any moderate runs planned? Around class 3 or 3+? I'm interested in either
a day or a night run. Probably would prefer a night run since I'm planning
on installing my Powertrax No-Slip Locker in the front of my TJ in the
morning but it could wait until the evening to do it.
Pete
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5534 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 11:25pm
Subject: MDA 2000 EVENT
Had a real blast on this run.. Ran into Charles from Sandiego.. Blue XJ that
ran Tr42 with us once..
There was something like 700 vehicles and 1500 people attending the event..
Poker run was a total blast and the trail run
we choose was really neat and twisty.. No real hard obsticles but we took
the harder lines on all the small obsticles..
Didn't want to risk breaking anything so far from home so we chose the
easiest run of them all..
We got to see the pumpkin patch, an area that has large bolders that look
like pumpkins. The mud pots were really cool, there was this grayish spring
that water would bubble out of every miniute or so... Then we got to see
Barrow spring.. Basically a pipe sticking out of the ground that spirts
water every three miniutes.. there was some 1920 type material around the
area and the pipe was made of tin. Really neat piece of history.. They had a
huge raffle and gave over 50k in prizes away to raffel winners. BFG and
CURRIE and BILLSTINE and WARN were some of the sponsers and man did they
donate the goodies.. They even gave away one of the new YJ conversion Coil
kits... Though I didn't win (I really tried) I had a blast..
One more thing, Glamis looks like killer fun... William M. Im there next
time you go!!!!!!!!!! We past it on the way to the event and
I just got this big smile on my face as we drove by :) Too bad noone from
the club made it.. It was A blast and I would like to return to this event
next year....
Dave (AZXJ)
5535 From: David Houk <david.houk@o...>
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2000 6:32am
Subject: [Fwd: NEED YOUR HELP]
Sandee McCullen wrote:
>
> IMPORTANT UPDATE........... CORRECTION.............CORRECTION..............
> CORRECTION........... CORRECTION
>
> I goofed on DIRECTIONS. PLEASE NOTE the clean up is at Mile Post 201!!!!!!!
> This is just BEFORE the Gold Canyon Texaco Station. If you get to the light
> at the Texaco Station...... Meadowbrook Drive......... you've gone too
> far.
>
> Hwy 60 to Mile Post 201. South side of Hwy 60.
>
> We still NEED a lot more volunteers. Camping will be allowed on site for
> those that want to stay.
>
> We NEED to help Tammy Pike of State Trust Land Dept. She has been a GREAT
> ally for 4-wheelers so hopefully we can show our appreciation by giving a
> few hours to help. If this clean up / education project fails she will be
> forced to close this area so please find a few hours in your time to help.
> Wouldn't it be great to see all 900 ASA4WDC members on site??!!!
>
> TO ALL OF YOU THAT FORWARDED THIS ORIGINAL MESSAGE ON TO FRIENDS............
> PLEASE DO SO AGAIN SO THE CORRECTION GETS TO EVERYONE.
>
> THANKS, Sandee
>
> Subject: NEED YOUR HELP
>
> IMPORTANT NOTICE TO 4-WHEELERS ..................
>
> The State Land Department and Game & Fish NEED YOUR HELP...............
>
> There has been a big push to close a number of acres of State Trust Land in
> and/or near our cities boundries due to the recent directive re "Dust
> Abatement". There is a large section of State Trust Land in the Apache
> Junction area (Gold Canyon actually) that is used mainly by our fellow ATV
> and motorcycle off-highway enthusiasts but local residents want it closed
> due to "dust".
>
> The State Land Dept and Game & Fish have joined together in putting together
> a "control & education" plan in an effort to keep this area available to
> off-highway use. If they cannot get it cleaned, signed and education out it
> most likely will be closed.
>
> THEY NEED OUR HELP.......... They are planning a CLEAN-UP and EDUCATION
> project on February 11 & 12, 2000.
>
> They are asking anyone and everyone interested in Off Highway use to show up
> and help clean the area (approx. 1200 acres) and distribute State Land
> Permit information to the users. They have this planned on one of the worst
> weekends possible for ASA4WDC but here's the plan....... The Land Agencies
> will furnish the trash bags and a large dumpster........ they want us to
> patrol the area for trash, pick it up, and take it back to the gate area for
> removal. There are some large pieces needing to be "dragged" or "hauled"
> back but most is just trash. 4-Wheel Drive is not required.
>
> Friday, FEB. 11, 2000: 9:00 a.m. - ???? Anyone that can make it out for a
> few hours. Anyone retired that can spend some time??
>
> Saturday, FEB 12 2000: As many ASA4WDC members as possible to work from 9:00
> a.m. - 12:00 p.m......... The ASA4WDC Delegate meeting is at 1:00 that same
> afternoon just a couple of miles down the road from the cleanup so hopefully
> all the club delegates and board members can get moving a little earlier and
> spend some time at the clean up prior to the meeting.
>
> For the afternoon cleanup I would direct this request to those
> recreationists that are not members of the ASA4WDC......... Virtual Jeep
> Club, independent 4-Wheelers, the organized clubs that are not associated
> with the ASA4WDC. Your help would be greatly appreciated......... and
> needed.
>
> DIRECTIONS: Highway 60 east to Kings Ranch Road. (There's a stop light with
> a Texaco station just before Kings Ranch Rd) Stay in the right lane.
> There is a gate directly across from Kings Ranch Rd. turn. Go south through
> the gate. We will be meeting at 9:00 a.m. both days.
>
> PLEASE R.S.V.P. Sandee McCullen at 480 832-8132 or email:
> mccullen@w... or leave a message with Tammy Pike's voice mail at
> State Trust Dept.: (602) 542-2269 or email: tpike@l...
>
> PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST........... OR FRIENDS AND
> NEIGHBORS INTERESTED!!!!!!
5536 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2000 10:10am
Subject: PFUSA comment regarding driver education
FYI. This guy is right.
Linda
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:32:53 MST
From: Terry Heslin theslin@p...
Subject: FWD: Re: FWD: NEED YOUR HELP
To: Blind *Copy theslin@p...
Apparently-To: "Linda_Luik-P14175@email" p14175@msgphx8
Outdoor Enthusiasts:
Here is a response from Mason Coggin of the Capitol Chapter People for the USA. He makes some great points about how rouge behavior from a minority cause all of us to lose.
--------------------------------------
Date: 2/8/0 8:42 AM
From: MASONCOG
Terry
I know some of the ranchers in this area and their thrust to close the roads is based on the poor manners of some of the public 4WDs who visit the area. They have changed gates, broken locks, shot up water tanks and generally made a mess of the desert. I believe that we can change this sorry attitude if we can reach these people and tell them we all loose when people disrespect the ranchers and other uses of the multiple use lands. Off highway manners needs to be taught in the public schools as a part of the civics and driver training classes that should be required for getting a driver's license in Arizona. I know you have incorporated this into your programs but I wish you could spend more time over in the education building educating the educators. This is a matter of policy not legislation. Can I help you in talking to some of the policy setters in the Department of Education either with you or for you? I hope you will pass this notice on to others in the 4WD community.
Mason Coggin
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5537 From: Melinda Zabritski <mzabritski1@e...>
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2000 1:03pm
Subject: Rocky Point Cancellation
Sorry about this, but my Rocky Point camping on the beach weekend (feb.
19-21) is being cancelled (at least for me). I'm being called out of
town for work and won't get back in town to get down there.
I do hope to make it to a few trail runs in the next few weeks.
Have fun!
Melinda
5538 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2000 4:26pm
Subject: Anyone up for running Broken Arrow ... Saturday Feb 26th?
Anyone initially interested?
Cheers,
Larry
5514 From: Melinda Zabritski <mzabritski1@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 0:33pm
Subject: Proposed Rocky Point
OK, I'm going down to Rocky Point to camp on the beach! No matter what
date gets picked, I know that not everyone will be happy - but TOO BAD!
I've only got a few weekends left in Arizona so, I'm proposing a beach
camp out for the weekend of February 19th - 20th.
Meet at the Fry's Super Electronics Store parking lot at Baseline &
I-10 at 3:00pm Friday February 18th.
Return to Arizona either Sunday or Monday (depending on who has
Washington's Birthday off).
As someone put it earlier, this is an inexpensive trip. Camping on the
beach is under $10 per night and then it's just survival money once you
take care of the gas and Mexican Insurance (this is mandatory).
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5515 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 0:37pm
Subject: Wanted - stock rims - cheap
I'm looking for 2 rims (5 on 4.5 bolt pattern). Width is not important (can
be 6" or 7"), nor is backspacing. They just need to be straight and
true....and cheap.
If you have any that are collecting dust...shoot me a note at
azjeep@h...
Thanks,
Doug
5516 From: Jay Eller <four_by_nut@n...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 1:02pm
Subject: Re: Wanted - stock rims - cheap
I've got 5 on 5.5's all day long. But doesn't meet your requirements. But if
for whatever reason you want them, let me know.
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DougB wrote:
> I'm looking for 2 rims (5 on 4.5 bolt pattern). Width is not important (can
> be 6" or 7"), nor is backspacing. They just need to be straight and
> true....and cheap.
>
> If you have any that are collecting dust...shoot me a note at
> azjeep@h...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Doug
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5517 From: <dirtdog@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 3:41pm
Subject: Grand Wagoneer for sale
If anyone is interested I have a friend who is selling a
Grand Wagoneer.
SPECS
1984 Grand Wagoneer, 4 door, maroon with the woody look
135k miles
full time 4 wheel drive, I think it has the vacuum switch
x-fer case
(quadratrac?)
360 V-8 runs strong
automatic tranny rebuilt @100K
ps/pb/ac etc....Leather seats
new steering gear (box)
Receiver
$3,500
Kevin Ogurchak
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work 480-507-3233
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5518 From: Tim Naylor <tim.naylor@w...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 4:01pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
I have never run the Terminator trail, but I have been there and walked it. I think you are asking for big trouble taking the rig you described in to Terminator. It looks like a trail requiring big tires and maximum clearance. That's just my opinion, maybe someone that has run it can confirm this or not. I think it should have a solid 4 rating.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lon [mailto:robinson@lankaster.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:05 PM
To: Todd Ahern; az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Kathy and I are interested, the TJ is 2"lifted, disco's, LSD rear, and stock 30x9.50. Any problems there? How is the possibility of a little bit later starting time (we live in Cordes Junction) and meeting at 7:00 makes us get up awfully early for a Saturday.
Lon and Kathy
Red 98TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Ahern
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd Ahern, or Gregg
Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at the McDonalds on Dear
vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is rated a (3+, 4)
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5519 From: tom le <tomle_85024@y...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 4:37pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
Tim & Todd,
You guys can count me in for this trip.
Tom Le
'94 ZJ With Highly Modified Off-road Vehicle
--- Tim Naylor <tim.naylor@w...> wrote:
> I have never run the Terminator trail, but I have
> been there and walked it.
> I think you are asking for big trouble taking the
> rig you described in to
> Terminator. It looks like a trail requiring big
> tires and maximum clearance.
> That's just my opinion, maybe someone that has run
> it can confirm this or
> not. I think it should have a solid 4 rating.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lon [mailto:robinson@l...]
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:05 PM
> To: Todd Ahern; az_vjc@eGroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
>
>
> Kathy and I are interested, the TJ is 2"lifted,
> disco's, LSD rear, and
> stock 30x9.50. Any problems there? How is the
> possibility of a little bit
> later starting time (we live in Cordes Junction) and
> meeting at 7:00 makes
> us get up awfully early for a Saturday.
>
> Lon and Kathy
> Red 98TJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Todd Ahern
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
>
>
> Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd
> Ahern, or Gregg
> Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at
> the McDonalds on Dear
> vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is
> rated a (3+, 4)
>
>
>
>
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5520 From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 4:46pm
Subject: Fw: Rims
-----Original Message-----
From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
To: azjeep@h... <azjeep@h...>
Date: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:37 PM
Subject: Rims
>I have 4 rims 5 4.5 from my comanche with center cap and trims $40.00
>I'm in gilbert Az # 813-2975
>
>
5521 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 5:40pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
Id like to ride along if someone has an open passenger seat.
Cheers,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Naylor
To: Lon ; az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
I have never run the Terminator trail, but I have been there and walked it. I think you are asking for big trouble taking the rig you described in to Terminator. It looks like a trail requiring big tires and maximum clearance. That's just my opinion, maybe someone that has run it can confirm this or not. I think it should have a solid 4 rating.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lon [mailto:robinson@lankaster.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:05 PM
To: Todd Ahern; az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Kathy and I are interested, the TJ is 2"lifted, disco's, LSD rear, and stock 30x9.50. Any problems there? How is the possibility of a little bit later starting time (we live in Cordes Junction) and meeting at 7:00 makes us get up awfully early for a Saturday.
Lon and Kathy
Red 98TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Ahern
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd Ahern, or Gregg
Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at the McDonalds on Dear
vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is rated a (3+, 4)
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5522 From: Lon <robinson@l...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 6:00pm
Subject: Re: XJ Skid Pans
I believe Skid row makes one for the XJ. I have one of theirs on the TJ and am impressed with the quality and it takes a hit well :-)
Lon
www.skid-row.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Leonard K. Pennock
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 6:49 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] XJ Skid Pans
Since I destroyed my xfercase skid plate on Sunday I'm in the market for
something better than the stock one. (Something about having ripped the
bolts out of the frame.
I have the NP242 Xfer case. Tomken machine makes a plate. I know that
everyone seems to like their stuff. Is there any other manufacture I
should look at?
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5523 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 6:40pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
Thats a quarter mile that I wont be taking my 3 month old TJ on :)
By the way Stu, the new tires on your Jeep look good. Who did the gear work?
Regards,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
To: Larry Maggio ; az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 7:11 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Larry,
The trail is about a quarter mile or so long if memory serves me.....someone correct me if I am confusing it with another one.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
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-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Maggio [mailto:lmaggio@primenet.com]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 6:41 PM
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Id like to ride along if someone has an open passenger seat.
Cheers,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Naylor
To: Lon ; az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 5:01 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
I have never run the Terminator trail, but I have been there and walked it. I think you are asking for big trouble taking the rig you described in to Terminator. It looks like a trail requiring big tires and maximum clearance. That's just my opinion, maybe someone that has run it can confirm this or not. I think it should have a solid 4 rating.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lon [mailto:robinson@lankaster.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 9:05 PM
To: Todd Ahern; az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Terminator Run
Kathy and I are interested, the TJ is 2"lifted, disco's, LSD rear, and stock 30x9.50. Any problems there? How is the possibility of a little bit later starting time (we live in Cordes Junction) and meeting at 7:00 makes us get up awfully early for a Saturday.
Lon and Kathy
Red 98TJ
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Ahern
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd Ahern, or Gregg
Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at the McDonalds on Dear
vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is rated a (3+, 4)
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5524 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 6:48pm
Subject: New RE lift for TJ's
Looks pretty impressive. I think it is a 6" lift.... but look at the new
control arms. The arms will bolt to a new tranny crossmember which will be
flush with the frame rails.
http://www.harryworld.com/harry/newarms3.jpg
http://www.harryworld.com/harry/newarms2.jpg
http://www.harryworld.com/harry/newarms2.jpg
Larry
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5526 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 8:26pm
Subject: Re: XJ Skid Pans
CactusLew@a... wrote:
>
> Leonard,
> I have a T-case skid plate on my XJ (w/ a 242), that I ordered from Rusty's
> Offroad. Take a look at his site, this skid saved mine on that same ledge in
> December. The ZJ that was behind me wasn't so fortunate.
>
> Lew
> 89XJ
Thanks. After looking at it and Tomkin I decided on the Rusty because
it was 3/16" steel instead of 1/8". Glad I made the correct decision.
BTW: when you bend up your crossmember they will be releasing a
transmission crossmember out of 3/16" steel in the next couple of
months.
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
5527 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 8:32pm
Subject: Re: XJ Skid Pans
The web site doesn't list it yet for an XJ and appears to only be an
engine skid. Anyway they do have an impressive looking product. Thanks.
>I believe Skid row makes one for the XJ. I have one of theirs on the TJ >and am impressed with the quality and it takes a hit
>well :-)
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
5528 From: Pete Wirch <wirch@m...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 9:11pm
Subject: Saturday Feb 11th
Any moderate runs planned? Around class 3 or 3+? I'm interested in either
a day or a night run. Probably would prefer a night run since I'm planning
on installing my Powertrax No-Slip Locker in the front of my TJ in the
morning but it could wait until the evening to do it.
Pete
5529 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 9:50pm
Subject: [Fwd: NEED YOUR HELP]
FYI
Linda
From: "Sandee McCullen" McCullen@w...
To: "Todd Zuercher" toddz69@j..., "Cliff Wintring" clifford.wintring@a..., "Dick Williamson" Azgg@p..., "Janet Williams" jkw5935@a..., "Ken Waddill" WADDILL@p..., "Lee Vetter" dsrtrydr@j..., "Nate VanKeuren" nathan.b.vankeuren@b..., "Don Tucker" donbe@c..., "Dec Thackston" decaturt@i..., "Rheal Tetreault" 4critter@f..., "Ron Stoddard" tlc4x4@p..., "Len Steinberg" lenaz@i..., "Jerry Steele" jsteele@a..., "Brian Spooner" duhmude@j..., "Bernie Southerland" BSOUTHER@I..., "Joe Smith" joeh@g..., "Marty Sindelar" sindelarm@h..., "David Shyrock" dshryock@s..., "Jon Sholar" jon.r.sholar@i..., "Todd Shepard" redrider@p..., "Doug Schulz" azsunlvr@p..., "Matt Schonthaler" schontma@r..., "Scott Sanders" brokenaxle@s..., "Mike Sandblom" msun@c..., "Joe Ruby" JoeRuby@w..., "Hoss Rogers" mrhossdog@a..., "Daniel J Rodriquez" Daniel.J.Rodriquez@i..., "Michael Ritzel" mritzel@a..., "Curtis Rhoades" secare@a..., "Mark Ragel" poolman58@a..., "Bill Pienups" billpie@a..., "Dave Peterson" gonzodave@y..., "Norm Petersen" r14141@e..., "Becky Petermann" 4critter@f..., "Gene Perry" gperry3@j..., "Bob Nyberg" r.nyberg@w..., "Frank Noel" sheepdip@g..., "Scott Nixon" nixon@s..., "Brad Musil" bmusil@a..., "Zane Morgan" ZMMORGAN@p..., "Steve Morehouse" almach@v..., "David Moerman" dem@e..., "Patrick Miller" spintheclown@h..., "Mike Mileski" broncos@a..., "Bill Mihailov" amy@s..., "Rick Micola" scrambler@u..., "Ed Melendy" mred@m..., "Jack McMahon" johnmcmahon@s..., "Todd McCullen" tbfab@i..., "Mike McCarthy" citi@g..., "Glenda & Richard Mansfield" kibbey@f..., "Gary MacLaren" ezrydr1@y..., "Linda Luik" minihummer@w..., "Kurt Loga" Logaks@h..., "Charles Lightner" light@e..., "Norm Lenhart" lenhart@o..., "Steve Lancea" steve.lancea@i..., "Don Lameyer" rrhe60@e..., "Mike Lachance" boarderguy@d..., "Jay Kopycinski" ryna10@e..., "Todd Kilen" takilen@a..., "Gary Keller" rockart@u..., "Kim Keith" kkeith@g..., "Wendi Kawa" wendi@t..., "Sam Katzdorn" purch@i..., "Keith Jones" protofab@p..., "Bill Jewett" ntajp@p..., "Ray Jenkins" rw9340@e..., "Taad Janson" taad@a..., "Russ Jacoby" rljacoby@a..., "Janine Ingles" ziggy@c..., "Bob Huffman" kachng@e..., "David Houk" r17706@e..., "Don Hicks" gunny3@w..., "Terry Heslin" theslin@p..., "Rodney Hayes" rockin@r..., "Dean Hathaway" deano@p..., "Steve Harwood" doghows@w..., "Randy Harral" bronco6677@w..., "Jon Hanna" spacho@s..., "Debbie Gory" debbie@r..., "Carl Goodwin" clgoodwi@s..., "Tom Gismondi" tgismondi@k..., "Ted Gersztyn" Tedg@p..., "Steve Findling" bciinc@u..., "Gary Fancher" fanchers@c..., "Leah Eliscu" eliscu@m..., "Scott Deuty" 4x4travel@s..., "Dec Thackston" decaturt@i..., "Brian Dawson" bcdawson@m..., "Richard Davis" tucsonrcd@a..., "Cliff Daniel" CDANIEL@I..., "Ed Cruess" cruessn2@a..., "Craig Corbin" Craig.W.Corbin@i..., "Steve Comstock" comstock@i..., "Lance Comstock" pti_access@e..., "Mason Coggin" masoncog@a..., "Robert F ****rum" Robert.F.****rum@i..., "Joe Chott" p18254@e..., "Frank Chance" chance@c..., "John Camoriano" Bronco@h..., "Richard Caldwell" RCLC@r..., "John Camoriano" Bronco@h..., "Eldon Brown" elb.lab@m..., "Bill Brown" xjzonie@m..., "Walt Brodzinski" wbrodzinski@c..., "Eric Boyer" boyerbrats@a..., "Marty Boetel" cboetel@a..., "Bev Bills" corralBCC@m..., "Joan Beck" fourby@c..., "Elliott Bartlett" ej.bartlett@w..., "Mike Bailey" mbailey345@a..., "Charles Bab****" charles.h.bab****@i..., "Tom Ashbeck" turtl@m..., "ASA4WDC" asa4wdc@a..., "Chuck Arnold" Charles.W.Arnold@i..., "John Adamow" johnadamow@L..., "Tom Alexander" thomas.alexander@i..., "Ray Anderson" raybec@s...
Subject: NEED YOUR HELP
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2000 17:59:46 -0700
IMPORTANT UPDATE........... CORRECTION.............CORRECTION..............
CORRECTION........... CORRECTION
I goofed on DIRECTIONS. PLEASE NOTE the clean up is at Mile Post 201!!!!!!!
This is just BEFORE the Gold Canyon Texaco Station. If you get to the light
at the Texaco Station...... Meadowbrook Drive......... you've gone too
far.
Hwy 60 to Mile Post 201. South side of Hwy 60.
We still NEED a lot more volunteers. Camping will be allowed on site for
those that want to stay.
We NEED to help Tammy Pike of State Trust Land Dept. She has been a GREAT
ally for 4-wheelers so hopefully we can show our appreciation by giving a
few hours to help. If this clean up / education project fails she will be
forced to close this area so please find a few hours in your time to help.
Wouldn't it be great to see all 900 ASA4WDC members on site??!!!
TO ALL OF YOU THAT FORWARDED THIS ORIGINAL MESSAGE ON TO FRIENDS............
PLEASE DO SO AGAIN SO THE CORRECTION GETS TO EVERYONE.
THANKS, Sandee
Subject: NEED YOUR HELP
IMPORTANT NOTICE TO 4-WHEELERS ..................
The State Land Department and Game & Fish NEED YOUR HELP...............
There has been a big push to close a number of acres of State Trust Land in
and/or near our cities boundries due to the recent directive re "Dust
Abatement". There is a large section of State Trust Land in the Apache
Junction area (Gold Canyon actually) that is used mainly by our fellow ATV
and motorcycle off-highway enthusiasts but local residents want it closed
due to "dust".
The State Land Dept and Game & Fish have joined together in putting together
a "control & education" plan in an effort to keep this area available to
off-highway use. If they cannot get it cleaned, signed and education out it
most likely will be closed.
THEY NEED OUR HELP.......... They are planning a CLEAN-UP and EDUCATION
project on February 11 & 12, 2000.
They are asking anyone and everyone interested in Off Highway use to show up
and help clean the area (approx. 1200 acres) and distribute State Land
Permit information to the users. They have this planned on one of the worst
weekends possible for ASA4WDC but here's the plan....... The Land Agencies
will furnish the trash bags and a large dumpster........ they want us to
patrol the area for trash, pick it up, and take it back to the gate area for
removal. There are some large pieces needing to be "dragged" or "hauled"
back but most is just trash. 4-Wheel Drive is not required.
Friday, FEB. 11, 2000: 9:00 a.m. - ???? Anyone that can make it out for a
few hours. Anyone retired that can spend some time??
Saturday, FEB 12 2000: As many ASA4WDC members as possible to work from 9:00
a.m. - 12:00 p.m......... The ASA4WDC Delegate meeting is at 1:00 that same
afternoon just a couple of miles down the road from the cleanup so hopefully
all the club delegates and board members can get moving a little earlier and
spend some time at the clean up prior to the meeting.
For the afternoon cleanup I would direct this request to those
recreationists that are not members of the ASA4WDC......... Virtual Jeep
Club, independent 4-Wheelers, the organized clubs that are not associated
with the ASA4WDC. Your help would be greatly appreciated......... and
needed.
DIRECTIONS: Highway 60 east to Kings Ranch Road. (There's a stop light with
a Texaco station just before Kings Ranch Rd) Stay in the right lane.
There is a gate directly across from Kings Ranch Rd. turn. Go south through
the gate. We will be meeting at 9:00 a.m. both days.
PLEASE R.S.V.P. Sandee McCullen at 480 832-8132 or email:
mccullen@writeme.com or leave a message with Tammy Pike's voice mail at
State Trust Dept.: (602) 542-2269 or email: tpike@lnd.state.az.us
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST........... OR FRIENDS AND
NEIGHBORS INTERESTED!!!!!!
5530 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 9:51pm
Subject: [Fwd: Lake Havasu 4x4 Desert Run]
FYI. Brian -- is this the one you were talking about?
Linda
Sender: nixon@s...
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2000 09:11:53 -0700
From: Scott Nixon nixon@s...
To: John & Marcie Edmonds john.edmonds@h..., Bill Blanford bill@b..., Bill Lahl rusty4770@a..., bill pienups billpie@a..., Bruce Browell bjbjeep@h..., Dave Hickman david.hickman@a..., Dave Hostetler DHostetler@m..., Dave Spiedel spiedel@h..., Dave Zelinka r13626@e..., David Beattie docswrnglr@w..., Gordon Grotts choklot@a..., Ingles ziggy@U..., Jason Riggs ijeep@y..., jay kopycinski ryna10@e..., Jim Cassady JIMS737@a..., Joan and Ernie Binder poppy1146@a..., John K lndcrusr88@a..., Jule & Don Munzer spartenphx@a..., Ken Waddill waddill@p..., Kip Boetel kipboetel@h..., Linda Luik minihummer@w..., Liz Davis lizthemechanic@e..., Lori Oachs loachs@y..., Marc Dillmore dizx4@h..., Marc Whitrock Marcrock@m..., Mike Tutor mike_4x4@h..., norm petersen r14141@e..., Renee Delgado ReneeDelgado@w..., Rick and Meaghan rohr@U..., Rick Micola Scrambler@U..., Rick Schmidt m2austi@m..., Ron and Mary Baker rdavidbaker@h..., Ron Couch rbc@e..., Roy & Robyn Chancellor rrchance@U..., Sam Katzdorn samkatzdorn@n..., Sandee & Jack MCCullen mccullen@w..., Scott Nixon nixon@s..., Sean & Debbie Murphy rksmurphy@a..., Steve Bolander sbolander@a..., Steve Findling bciinc@U..., Steve Graham stevegraham@w..., Ted Gersztyn tedg@p..., Thomas Karas tom_karas@p..., Todd McCullen tbfab@i..., Travis Heidenreich travis51@a..., Troy & Amber Munig rocklizard@U..., Ziggy ziggy@c..., "Mr Ed." mred@m...
Subject: Lake Havasu 4x4 Desert Run
Don't know anything about this event, other than what's posted on the web
page. It is the same weekend as the rock crawling championships though:
Golden K Kiwanis <GoldenKiwanis@webtv.net> wrote:
> We invite you to register today for this exciting event ... check out
> our webpage fore more info:
>
> http://community.webtv.net/GoldenKiwanis/LakeHavasu4x4Desert
Scott Nixon
5531 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 10:04pm
Subject: Re: Red Creek Environmental Assessment
Excellent points, Stu. I have a copy, so if (for any reason) you don't get
one, let me know and I'll shoot you one.
I'll be sending Mr. Lopez a letter on my thoughts about the closing. The
biggest concern I have is that it's the only road left which accesses the
west side of the Verde for many miles. All the others have been closed off.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
To: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 2:39 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Red Creek Environmental Assessment
> Thanks Doug,
>
> I wrote the ranger district office a letter asking for a copy. I also
> expressed my views on the Red Creek issue, explaining that until I had a
> copy of the EA in hand, I would not be able to address all the points.
>
> I hope everyone else in the group takes time to send Mr. Lopez their
> comments on closing Red Creek trail. If they don't hear from us, you can
> bet it is history. It still may be even if they do hear from us....but at
> least we can say we did not give up without a fight. For those of you who
> are sitting on the fence and waiting for the other guy to write the
letters
> and fight the fights, where would be all be if we all did it that way?
> (hint....sitting at home talking about how great it would be to find a
trail
> to ride on!)
>
> Thanks........Stu
>
> Stu Olson N7QJP
> Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 8:48 AM
> To: Stu Olson; Jeep AzVJC
> Cc: Joe Ruby
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Red Creek Environmental Assessment
>
>
> No...it's not on line, as best I know. I'd think you could get a copy from
> the Cave Creek Ranger District (480-595-3300). It's about 54 pages long.
>
> Comments concerning the Assessment should be sent to :
>
> Delvin R. Lopez
> District Ranger
> Cave Creek Ranger District
> 40202 N. Cave Creek Road
> Scottsdale, Az 85262
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
> To: Jeep AzVJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Cc: Joe Ruby <JoeRuby@w...>
> Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 7:16 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Red Creek Environmental Assessment
>
>
> > Doug,
> >
> > Is the info you referenced available on-line? I would very much like to
> > review it. Any info you can give, or a direction you can point me in,
> would
> > be very much appreciated.
> >
> > I spent an over-nighter on Red Creek in December and it was most
> beautiful.
> > I agree that the vehicle impact appears to be quite limited, especially
> when
> > compared to other areas. I do hope we don't loose this one. If anyone
in
> > the group has never taken up a cause and feels like now is the time, you
> are
> > absolutely right.
> >
> > Thanks......Stu
> >
> >
> > Stu Olson N7QJP
> > Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
> >
> > http://www.qsl.net/n7qjp/
> > http://home.off-road.com/~stu
> > http://www.users.uswest.west/~solson8
> > Developer of VKE Digital Voice Keyer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DougB [mailto:azjeep@h...]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 6:00 PM
> > To: Jeep AzVJC
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Red Creek Environmental Assessment
> >
> >
> > The E.A. is fresh off the presses on Red Creek. The objective is to
> > "...minimize or eliminate the adverse impacts of FR18 on riparian
habitat
> > along Red Creek". Basically, the proposal states that "Forest Road #18
> > would be closed or access would be limited". The study lists 6
> > alternative...with the Cave Creek District Ranger being responsible for
> > deciding which alternative will be implemented. the alternatives deal w/
> > grazing policy as well as possible road closure. For the purpose of this
> > e-mail, I'll only summarize the alternatives as they relate to FR18.
> >
> > Alternative A: Basically, keeping things as they are. Road would stay
> open.
> >
> > Alternative B, C, D, E, and F - close or limit access to FR18. They're
> > recommended alternative is C - which deals w/ limited grazing.
> >
> >
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5532 From: DougB <azjeep@h...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 10:11pm
Subject: Re: Terminator Run
I'll probably be going...though I understand the trail is a strong 4 (as
opposed to a 3.5).
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Todd Ahern <tahern@u...>
To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 11:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Terminator Run
> Planning a run on Terminator. Feb 19th. POC is Todd Ahern, or Gregg
> Clark. As of this time we are planning to meet at the McDonalds on Dear
> vally road. at 0700 and leave at 0730. Trail is rated a (3+, 4)
>
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5533 From: Eric Herring <herring@u...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 10:14pm
Subject: Re: Saturday Feb 11th
I'll be in the northwest valley with a few hours to kill Saturday afternoon.
Does anyone know of any trails in that area?
Eric Herring 92XJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Wirch [mailto:wirch@m...]
Sent: Monday, February 07, 2000 10:12 PM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Saturday Feb 11th
Any moderate runs planned? Around class 3 or 3+? I'm interested in either
a day or a night run. Probably would prefer a night run since I'm planning
on installing my Powertrax No-Slip Locker in the front of my TJ in the
morning but it could wait until the evening to do it.
Pete
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5534 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Mon Feb 7, 2000 11:25pm
Subject: MDA 2000 EVENT
Had a real blast on this run.. Ran into Charles from Sandiego.. Blue XJ that
ran Tr42 with us once..
There was something like 700 vehicles and 1500 people attending the event..
Poker run was a total blast and the trail run
we choose was really neat and twisty.. No real hard obsticles but we took
the harder lines on all the small obsticles..
Didn't want to risk breaking anything so far from home so we chose the
easiest run of them all..
We got to see the pumpkin patch, an area that has large bolders that look
like pumpkins. The mud pots were really cool, there was this grayish spring
that water would bubble out of every miniute or so... Then we got to see
Barrow spring.. Basically a pipe sticking out of the ground that spirts
water every three miniutes.. there was some 1920 type material around the
area and the pipe was made of tin. Really neat piece of history.. They had a
huge raffle and gave over 50k in prizes away to raffel winners. BFG and
CURRIE and BILLSTINE and WARN were some of the sponsers and man did they
donate the goodies.. They even gave away one of the new YJ conversion Coil
kits... Though I didn't win (I really tried) I had a blast..
One more thing, Glamis looks like killer fun... William M. Im there next
time you go!!!!!!!!!! We past it on the way to the event and
I just got this big smile on my face as we drove by :) Too bad noone from
the club made it.. It was A blast and I would like to return to this event
next year....
Dave (AZXJ)
5535 From: David Houk <david.houk@o...>
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2000 6:32am
Subject: [Fwd: NEED YOUR HELP]
Sandee McCullen wrote:
>
> IMPORTANT UPDATE........... CORRECTION.............CORRECTION..............
> CORRECTION........... CORRECTION
>
> I goofed on DIRECTIONS. PLEASE NOTE the clean up is at Mile Post 201!!!!!!!
> This is just BEFORE the Gold Canyon Texaco Station. If you get to the light
> at the Texaco Station...... Meadowbrook Drive......... you've gone too
> far.
>
> Hwy 60 to Mile Post 201. South side of Hwy 60.
>
> We still NEED a lot more volunteers. Camping will be allowed on site for
> those that want to stay.
>
> We NEED to help Tammy Pike of State Trust Land Dept. She has been a GREAT
> ally for 4-wheelers so hopefully we can show our appreciation by giving a
> few hours to help. If this clean up / education project fails she will be
> forced to close this area so please find a few hours in your time to help.
> Wouldn't it be great to see all 900 ASA4WDC members on site??!!!
>
> TO ALL OF YOU THAT FORWARDED THIS ORIGINAL MESSAGE ON TO FRIENDS............
> PLEASE DO SO AGAIN SO THE CORRECTION GETS TO EVERYONE.
>
> THANKS, Sandee
>
> Subject: NEED YOUR HELP
>
> IMPORTANT NOTICE TO 4-WHEELERS ..................
>
> The State Land Department and Game & Fish NEED YOUR HELP...............
>
> There has been a big push to close a number of acres of State Trust Land in
> and/or near our cities boundries due to the recent directive re "Dust
> Abatement". There is a large section of State Trust Land in the Apache
> Junction area (Gold Canyon actually) that is used mainly by our fellow ATV
> and motorcycle off-highway enthusiasts but local residents want it closed
> due to "dust".
>
> The State Land Dept and Game & Fish have joined together in putting together
> a "control & education" plan in an effort to keep this area available to
> off-highway use. If they cannot get it cleaned, signed and education out it
> most likely will be closed.
>
> THEY NEED OUR HELP.......... They are planning a CLEAN-UP and EDUCATION
> project on February 11 & 12, 2000.
>
> They are asking anyone and everyone interested in Off Highway use to show up
> and help clean the area (approx. 1200 acres) and distribute State Land
> Permit information to the users. They have this planned on one of the worst
> weekends possible for ASA4WDC but here's the plan....... The Land Agencies
> will furnish the trash bags and a large dumpster........ they want us to
> patrol the area for trash, pick it up, and take it back to the gate area for
> removal. There are some large pieces needing to be "dragged" or "hauled"
> back but most is just trash. 4-Wheel Drive is not required.
>
> Friday, FEB. 11, 2000: 9:00 a.m. - ???? Anyone that can make it out for a
> few hours. Anyone retired that can spend some time??
>
> Saturday, FEB 12 2000: As many ASA4WDC members as possible to work from 9:00
> a.m. - 12:00 p.m......... The ASA4WDC Delegate meeting is at 1:00 that same
> afternoon just a couple of miles down the road from the cleanup so hopefully
> all the club delegates and board members can get moving a little earlier and
> spend some time at the clean up prior to the meeting.
>
> For the afternoon cleanup I would direct this request to those
> recreationists that are not members of the ASA4WDC......... Virtual Jeep
> Club, independent 4-Wheelers, the organized clubs that are not associated
> with the ASA4WDC. Your help would be greatly appreciated......... and
> needed.
>
> DIRECTIONS: Highway 60 east to Kings Ranch Road. (There's a stop light with
> a Texaco station just before Kings Ranch Rd) Stay in the right lane.
> There is a gate directly across from Kings Ranch Rd. turn. Go south through
> the gate. We will be meeting at 9:00 a.m. both days.
>
> PLEASE R.S.V.P. Sandee McCullen at 480 832-8132 or email:
> mccullen@w... or leave a message with Tammy Pike's voice mail at
> State Trust Dept.: (602) 542-2269 or email: tpike@l...
>
> PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO ANYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST........... OR FRIENDS AND
> NEIGHBORS INTERESTED!!!!!!
5536 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2000 10:10am
Subject: PFUSA comment regarding driver education
FYI. This guy is right.
Linda
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:32:53 MST
From: Terry Heslin theslin@p...
Subject: FWD: Re: FWD: NEED YOUR HELP
To: Blind *Copy theslin@p...
Apparently-To: "Linda_Luik-P14175@email" p14175@msgphx8
Outdoor Enthusiasts:
Here is a response from Mason Coggin of the Capitol Chapter People for the USA. He makes some great points about how rouge behavior from a minority cause all of us to lose.
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Date: 2/8/0 8:42 AM
From: MASONCOG
Terry
I know some of the ranchers in this area and their thrust to close the roads is based on the poor manners of some of the public 4WDs who visit the area. They have changed gates, broken locks, shot up water tanks and generally made a mess of the desert. I believe that we can change this sorry attitude if we can reach these people and tell them we all loose when people disrespect the ranchers and other uses of the multiple use lands. Off highway manners needs to be taught in the public schools as a part of the civics and driver training classes that should be required for getting a driver's license in Arizona. I know you have incorporated this into your programs but I wish you could spend more time over in the education building educating the educators. This is a matter of policy not legislation. Can I help you in talking to some of the policy setters in the Department of Education either with you or for you? I hope you will pass this notice on to others in the 4WD community.
Mason Coggin
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5537 From: Melinda Zabritski <mzabritski1@e...>
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2000 1:03pm
Subject: Rocky Point Cancellation
Sorry about this, but my Rocky Point camping on the beach weekend (feb.
19-21) is being cancelled (at least for me). I'm being called out of
town for work and won't get back in town to get down there.
I do hope to make it to a few trail runs in the next few weeks.
Have fun!
Melinda
5538 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Tue Feb 8, 2000 4:26pm
Subject: Anyone up for running Broken Arrow ... Saturday Feb 26th?
Anyone initially interested?
Cheers,
Larry