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5214 From: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 22, 2000 1:21pm
Subject: Re: Sunday
ok - here goes
Where: Florence Junction Texaco
When: This Sunday at 8:30
What: Jack Handle trail - rated 3.5
CB: Channel 4
Time: Should be back by mid afternoon
Please post a note if your planning on attending, so we can have a head
count.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
Cc: Nnote <nnote@n...>; <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:16 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sunday
> When and where are we meeting?
> Linda
>
> DougB wrote:
>
> > I had posted a possible run to Jack Handle (class 3+), but hadn't
> > heard any firm responses. If there are those that wish to go, let me
> > know and I'll post the particulars. Doug
> >
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> > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 1:48 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday
> > Who's going where Sunday?Nick Nnote@n...
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5215 From: Tim Naylor <tim.naylor@w...>
Date: Sat Jan 22, 2000 1:42pm
Subject: FW: Hi-Lift
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Naylor [mailto:tim.naylor@w...]
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:39 PM
To: wirch@m...
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Hi-Lift
I bought one of the tire inflators they have and paid $20 for it. I use it
on a CO2 tank. The one I got is for truck tires up to 150lb pressure is not
very usefull for low tire pressure like we use. If the one on sale is the
150 lb one, I don't recomend it.
I appreciate this tip though. My Highlift has a bent main shaft and I was
considering getting a new parts to fix it. I can't by the replacement part
for that price. I'm going to chedk out a new one.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Wirch [mailto:wirch@m...]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:34 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Hi-Lift
For those interested, Harbor Freight is having a sale now and they are
selling the 48" hi-lifts for $31.99. Awesome deal. They also have the tire
inflator adaptors (like the ones at the nice gas stations that let you
squeeze the handle and check the air pressure while keeping the chuck on the
valve for $5.97. They normally sell for around $20.00. Lots of other great
stuff too.
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5216 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Jan 20, 2000 1:12pm
Subject: Re: possible camping trip???
I did an overnight trip in mid-December (Dec. 16 & 17) which included Red
Creek (we camped in the creek). We broke 3/4" thick ice from the stagnant
pools of water on the 2nd morning. Obviously temps can fluctuate, but it
got fairly cool that night.
Stu
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Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: DougB [mailto:daballard@p...]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 22:16
>To: UF RULZ; Melinda Zabritski; az_vjc@m...; Jon Loveless
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: possible camping trip???
>
>
>Senator Highway may be a bit cool, though I kinda like cold
>weather camping.
5217 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Sat Jan 22, 2000 9:49pm
Subject: No Subject
Four of us went to the Coves today and played for about 3 hours. Len - I
guess we missed you, sorry.
Ross, check out the air shots of your rig. Dale also.
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumIndex?u=22547&a=1598976
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480-816-6240
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5218 From: Sullivan, Len <LSULLIV@C...>
Date: Sat Jan 22, 2000 10:41pm
Subject: Re: Coves Saturday
Hi Jon
We just got home about half an hour ago. Had to strap two people while we
were there. Everybody did fine until we tried to cross from the second cove
to the third. On the uphill run out of the second cove wash (the big nasty
one) my friend in his '91 Z71 Chevy got crossed up halfway up the hill and
ended up sideways. After backing down and making about a dozen attempts at
the hard side of the hill, he finally gave up and took the bypass to the
north.
The same guy had trouble on the way out.....trying to climb up onto the same
ridge from the other side. He took the wrong line (only his second time in
the dirt and thought the way I went up the hill looked too difficult),
caught a bad bounce off of a mogul and ended up sliding sideways again -
except this time he slid off the main trail and onto the other fork of the
trail leading up the hill. His right rear tire was up on a mogul and the
front was dug into the soft dirt of the other approach, right where the two
paths come together. He was positioned just right so that no matter what he
tried to do, the front end would slide farther down the hill. With the back
end already at an angle to the left from the mogul, any movement of the
front down the hill just intensified the roll-over possibility. Very high
pucker factor on this one....the right front tire was hovering about an inch
off the ground and the whole truck would rock back and forth when he shifted
his weight inside. Some other people had caught up to us, so three of them
stood on the passenger side nerf bar while the other member of our group got
a strap attached to the front of the Chevy. There were 3 trucks at the
bottom of the hill, but I was the only one on top so I backed halfway down
the hill and hooked up. I dragged the front of his truck around so that it
was pointed up the hill and away we went. No more comments about my old
ugly beater from the "shiny Chevy" crowd!
The sun had set behind the mountains by this time, so we had to come most of
the way out in the dark. Just as we started down the last hill leading back
to the trail to the green gate, we saw headlights flashing on the side of a
hill to the west. Three quick flashes, three long flashes, three quick
flashes....pause....repeat. Wonderful. We got to the bottom of the hill
and followed a side trail that looked like it led to the source of the
flashes. Sure enough, after about a quarter of a mile we found a new YJ
wedged against a tree at the bottom of a hill with all four tires dug in to
the axles in soft sand. Since my Jeep had already pulled out Mike's Chevy,
we let Brian (the other member of our party) use his Chevy to pull the Jeep
out.....gotta keep the karma balanced, you know. Once the YJ was unstuck,
we had an uneventful trip out and home.
I got some good videotape of the action (or lack there of) on the hills,
including one segment where my passenger carried the camera up the second
cove to third cove hill. That video portion of that segment is mostly
alternating shots of my dashboard and my roof, but the audio is pretty
neat.......including a shocked "My God, we made it" from the passenger.
This was her first time off road.
All in all we had a good trip. The only damage was to a few people's
pride....no dents, no injuries. Could have been a lot worse. As usual, the
kids had an absolute blast....especially when they got to see Daddy tow
Uncle Mike up the hill (from a safe distance, of course).
Len Sullivan 78 J-10
5219 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Jan 23, 2000 0:03pm
Subject: Re: Coves Saturday
Len,
You just have way too much fun! :-)
Linda
Sullivan, Len wrote:
> Hi Jon
>
> We just got home about half an hour ago. Had to strap two people while we
> were there. Everybody did fine until we tried to cross from the second cove
> to the third. On the uphill run out of the second cove wash (the big nasty
> one) my friend in his '91 Z71 Chevy got crossed up halfway up the hill and
> ended up sideways. After backing down and making about a dozen attempts at
> the hard side of the hill, he finally gave up and took the bypass to the
> north.
>
> The same guy had trouble on the way out.....trying to climb up onto the same
> ridge from the other side. He took the wrong line (only his second time in
> the dirt and thought the way I went up the hill looked too difficult),
> caught a bad bounce off of a mogul and ended up sliding sideways again -
> except this time he slid off the main trail and onto the other fork of the
> trail leading up the hill. His right rear tire was up on a mogul and the
> front was dug into the soft dirt of the other approach, right where the two
> paths come together. He was positioned just right so that no matter what he
> tried to do, the front end would slide farther down the hill. With the back
> end already at an angle to the left from the mogul, any movement of the
> front down the hill just intensified the roll-over possibility. Very high
> pucker factor on this one....the right front tire was hovering about an inch
> off the ground and the whole truck would rock back and forth when he shifted
> his weight inside. Some other people had caught up to us, so three of them
> stood on the passenger side nerf bar while the other member of our group got
> a strap attached to the front of the Chevy. There were 3 trucks at the
> bottom of the hill, but I was the only one on top so I backed halfway down
> the hill and hooked up. I dragged the front of his truck around so that it
> was pointed up the hill and away we went. No more comments about my old
> ugly beater from the "shiny Chevy" crowd!
>
> The sun had set behind the mountains by this time, so we had to come most of
> the way out in the dark. Just as we started down the last hill leading back
> to the trail to the green gate, we saw headlights flashing on the side of a
> hill to the west. Three quick flashes, three long flashes, three quick
> flashes....pause....repeat. Wonderful. We got to the bottom of the hill
> and followed a side trail that looked like it led to the source of the
> flashes. Sure enough, after about a quarter of a mile we found a new YJ
> wedged against a tree at the bottom of a hill with all four tires dug in to
> the axles in soft sand. Since my Jeep had already pulled out Mike's Chevy,
> we let Brian (the other member of our party) use his Chevy to pull the Jeep
> out.....gotta keep the karma balanced, you know. Once the YJ was unstuck,
> we had an uneventful trip out and home.
>
> I got some good videotape of the action (or lack there of) on the hills,
> including one segment where my passenger carried the camera up the second
> cove to third cove hill. That video portion of that segment is mostly
> alternating shots of my dashboard and my roof, but the audio is pretty
> neat.......including a shocked "My God, we made it" from the passenger.
> This was her first time off road.
>
> All in all we had a good trip. The only damage was to a few people's
> pride....no dents, no injuries. Could have been a lot worse. As usual, the
> kids had an absolute blast....especially when they got to see Daddy tow
> Uncle Mike up the hill (from a safe distance, of course).
>
> Len Sullivan 78 J-10
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5220 From: <david.oboyle@b...>
Date: Sun Jan 23, 2000 9:38pm
Subject: Agua Fria river bottom run
Headed out this morning to meet Brain (Silverr) as I dropped off the
side of the road at 10:00 he was waiting ready to play... We aired down
and headed for some of the hills and rock piles.. We then headed over
to the ol' Mud hole for some mud boggin, After the mud boggin we ran
into a fellow member in one BAD
Chopped and locked FS Cherokee. He told us about this huge pit that was
really fun.. So we all headed over to it. on the way over to the big
pit, there were two guys in a rail that were barried up to the rear
axles, (sorry can't rember your name) BAD FS Cherokee owner, stopped
off to give the two guys a tug. We were close behind him to assist if
need be. He deffinately needed no assistance yanking that little buggy
out of the 33inch sized holes that it's rear tires dug. On to the Big
pit.. Brian and I stopped at the top, to survey the area and the big
cherokee headed down to play. Brian decided to head down and check it
out. After climbing one hill and almost taking out a 3wheeler that was
foolishly playing chicken on a very big and steep hill Brian decided to
head back to where I was parked. After chatting and watching the ATV'S
and Dirt bikes play we decided to head back over to the Ol' mud hole
and do some more rock climbs. Our FSC friend head for home. I went to
start up my XJ and guess what? No go something decided to kick the
bucket... would turn over but wouldn't start. After about an hour of
trying to figure out the problem we decided to tow it back over to the
area near the road. We headed over to the nearest Circle K to call the
wife so she could get a Wreaker out to tow the XJ home. Oh and on the
way to Circle K Brian's Xj's clutch started acting up, slipping really
bad but after a quick view of the situation and some pumping of the
clutch a few thousand time we were back on the road. When we got to
circle
K we added a little brake fluid to the clutch on Brian's XJ. And this
seemed to clear up the problem.. After I knew the wreaker was heading
out we headed back to the River bottom. Ran into the FSC owner and also
I think a new member in a silver YJ with Relvolvers and lockers front
and rear..(steve, I think?).
about an hour later the flat bead showed up and hauled my XJ home.. I
had a blast even though my rig broke agian for the third week straight.
THANKS to Brian for the tow and the ride to Circle K..
Dave (AZXJ) broken agian!!
5221 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Sun Jan 23, 2000 10:31pm
Subject: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are willing
to sell?
Thanks,
Larry
5222 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 5:27am
Subject: Re: Agua Fria river bottom run
David - you seem jinxed. You sure know how to have fun?!? I hope it is nothing serious and you get back in the saddle to try for week 4.
Jon
At 09:38 PM 1/23/2000 -0800, you wrote:
I had a blast even though my rig broke agian for the third week straight.
Dave (AZXJ) broken agian!!
---------------------------
Jon Loveless
480-816-6240
jloveless@earthlink.net
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5223 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:02am
Subject: Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
To: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the rears will do.
> Larry, I don't have any but I am looking hard at cutting my front fenders.
> Can those TJ flares be put on after a trim is done?
> Also, sorry I didn't get up to you this weekend, spent all day on the
> HDL[HoneyDOList] and the boys 79' CJ.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 11:31 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the
> rears will do.
>
>
> > Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are
> willing
> > to sell?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Larry
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5224 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:58am
Subject: Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
Ross,
They dont fit the front of CJ as well as they do the rear....alignment is a
little off but they will work. Im not sure about trimming up front... I know
the rear allows you to remove quite a bit of sheetmetal. There is a few
webpages out there that have some pics and info on the swap. I'll look for
them later tonight and shoot em off to you.
Lar
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> To: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
> the rears will do.
>
>
> > Larry, I don't have any but I am looking hard at cutting my front
fenders.
> > Can those TJ flares be put on after a trim is done?
> > Also, sorry I didn't get up to you this weekend, spent all day on the
> > HDL[HoneyDOList] and the boys 79' CJ.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> > To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 11:31 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the
> > rears will do.
> >
> >
> > > Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are
> > willing
> > > to sell?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
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5225 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 7:29am
Subject: Re: TR - Late February - Safford
I was thinking of the weekend of Feb 26-27. Will that work for the
SideWinders?
The only trail I have been on in the area is the one out to the Pueblo Devol
ruins. I would like to do that one again just to get a closer look at the
ruins. It isn't a tough trail so AZ_VJC members with stock 4x4s wouldn't have
any trouble. Just a thought....
Linda
Keith Orr wrote:
>
> Hello Linda/az_vjc members,
> I have been away from the computer lately, due to school, but was surprised
> as all get out when I noticed the postings about "Safford", and that
> everyone was interested in a run. Well, here you go:
>
> My son and I belong to a local 4x4 club here in Safford, as well as I am a
> member of AZ_VJC. The club I belong to here in Safford is called the:
> AZ SideWinders. They are very interested in doing a combined run with
> us(AZ_VJC), and would like for me to bring this to your attention. There are
> many in this club that know the area around Safford very well, and could
> make your trip to this area worth more. I would like to see an overnighter
> run as well, to give you all coming from distant areas more time for fun.
> If this is something you all would like to do, I can arrange and organize
> (with the help of the SideWinders, and My Son Jared), this run for late Feb.
> Please let me know what you all would like to do, if there is enough
> interest in this, we will make the arrangements. I will also before time
> comes for the event, post trail and environment conditions and ratings, so
> you will know more of where you are going to be running.
> My Son drives a 88 Suzuki Samari, and a 89 Toyota 4x4 pickup, and has been
> on the trails nearly everyday since he was old enough to drive(he is now
> 20), and he knows the area very well. He has lead all the runs to this date
> for SideWinders. He would be glad to lead a run for us. Thanks.
>
> Casper
> AZ_VJC member
> NAXJA member (Recorder)
> Sidewinder member
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:54 AM
> To: 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
>
> Hi All,
> I know this is a bit early but I would like to do a 4x4 trip/overnighter
> out
> to the Safford area and check out some of the cool trails out there.
> Anyone interested?
> Linda
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5226 From: Sam <santley@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 7:49am
Subject: Shifter Rattle
Has anyone worked the problem with the transfer case shifter rattling
on a TJ? It only happens when you take off from a stop.
5227 From: <vanhazel@W...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 8:08am
Subject: Re: Shifter Rattle
Check your motor/transmission/transfercase mounts, you probably have a
broken one.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:santley@p...]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 8:50 AM
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Shifter Rattle
Has anyone worked the problem with the transfer case shifter rattling
on a TJ? It only happens when you take off from a stop.
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5228 From: <SSeago1960@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 5:20am
Subject: Re: az_vjc digest
can you send to me in a form that doesnt need to be downloaded?
5229 From: josh ragan <joshragan@y...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 11:52am
Subject: Re: Shifter Rattle
I had that problem, slight rattle. Just adjust the
linkage as tight as possible. Went away immediately
after that.
--- Sam <santley@p...> wrote:
> Has anyone worked the problem with the transfer case
> shifter rattling
> on a TJ? It only happens when you take off from a
> stop..
>
>
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5230 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 1:59pm
Subject: Re: TR - Late February - Safford
There's some great camping spot back there too!
Linda
Keith Orr wrote:
>
> That sounds great Linda. I will talk to the SideWinders this week, and let
> you know. I do not see any problems though. The fact that it is not a hard
> core trail will work best for all, especially for those traveling any
> distance. I also believe the weather will be really good at that time of the
> year. Thanks for the ideas and suggestions. I will talk to you soon!
>
> Casper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:30 AM
> To: Keith Orr; 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
>
> I was thinking of the weekend of Feb 26-27. Will that work for the
> SideWinders?
>
> The only trail I have been on in the area is the one out to the Pueblo Devol
> ruins. I would like to do that one again just to get a closer look at the
> ruins. It isn't a tough trail so AZ_VJC members with stock 4x4s wouldn't
> have
> any trouble. Just a thought....
>
> Linda
>
> Keith Orr wrote:
> >
> > Hello Linda/az_vjc members,
> > I have been away from the computer lately, due to school, but was
> surprised
> > as all get out when I noticed the postings about "Safford", and that
> > everyone was interested in a run. Well, here you go:
> >
> > My son and I belong to a local 4x4 club here in Safford, as well
> as I am a
> > member of AZ_VJC. The club I belong to here in Safford is called the:
> > AZ SideWinders. They are very interested in doing a combined run with
> > us(AZ_VJC), and would like for me to bring this to your attention. There
> are
> > many in this club that know the area around Safford very well, and could
> > make your trip to this area worth more. I would like to see an overnighter
> > run as well, to give you all coming from distant areas more time for fun.
> > If this is something you all would like to do, I can arrange and
> organize
> > (with the help of the SideWinders, and My Son Jared), this run for late
> Feb.
> > Please let me know what you all would like to do, if there is enough
> > interest in this, we will make the arrangements. I will also before time
> > comes for the event, post trail and environment conditions and ratings, so
> > you will know more of where you are going to be running.
> > My Son drives a 88 Suzuki Samari, and a 89 Toyota 4x4 pickup, and
> has been
> > on the trails nearly everyday since he was old enough to drive(he is now
> > 20), and he knows the area very well. He has lead all the runs to this
> date
> > for SideWinders. He would be glad to lead a run for us. Thanks.
> >
> > Casper
> > AZ_VJC member
> > NAXJA member (Recorder)
> > Sidewinder member
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:54 AM
> > To: 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> > Subject: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I know this is a bit early but I would like to do a 4x4 trip/overnighter
> > out
> > to the Safford area and check out some of the cool trails out there.
> > Anyone interested?
> > Linda
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5231 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 2:09pm
Subject: Re: TR - Late February - Safford
Count me in!!
At 02:59 PM 1/24/2000 -0700, Linda Luik wrote:
There's some great camping spot back there too!
Linda
Keith Orr wrote:
>
> That sounds great Linda. I will talk to the SideWinders this week, and let
> you know. I do not see any problems though. The fact that it is not a hard
> core trail will work best for all, especially for those traveling any
> distance. I also believe the weather will be really good at that time of the
> year. Thanks for the ideas and suggestions. I will talk to you soon!
>
> Casper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:30 AM
> To: Keith Orr; 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
>
> I was thinking of the weekend of Feb 26-27. Will that work for the
> SideWinders?
>
> The only trail I have been on in the area is the one out to the Pueblo Devol
> ruins. I would like to do that one again just to get a closer look at the
> ruins. It isn't a tough trail so AZ_VJC members with stock 4x4s wouldn't
> have
> any trouble. Just a thought....
>
> Linda
>
> Keith Orr wrote:
> >
> > Hello Linda/az_vjc members,
> > I have been away from the computer lately, due to school, but was
> surprised
> > as all get out when I noticed the postings about "Safford", and that
> > everyone was interested in a run. Well, here you go:
> >
> > My son and I belong to a local 4x4 club here in Safford, as well
> as I am a
> > member of AZ_VJC. The club I belong to here in Safford is called the:
> > AZ SideWinders. They are very interested in doing a combined run with
> > us(AZ_VJC), and would like for me to bring this to your attention. There
> are
> > many in this club that know the area around Safford very well, and could
> > make your trip to this area worth more. I would like to see an overnighter
> > run as well, to give you all coming from distant areas more time for fun.
> > If this is something you all would like to do, I can arrange and
> organize
> > (with the help of the SideWinders, and My Son Jared), this run for late
> Feb.
> > Please let me know what you all would like to do, if there is enough
> > interest in this, we will make the arrangements. I will also before time
> > comes for the event, post trail and environment conditions and ratings, so
> > you will know more of where you are going to be running.
> > My Son drives a 88 Suzuki Samari, and a 89 Toyota 4x4 pickup, and
> has been
> > on the trails nearly everyday since he was old enough to drive(he is now
> > 20), and he knows the area very well. He has lead all the runs to this
> date
> > for SideWinders. He would be glad to lead a run for us. Thanks.
> >
> > Casper
> > AZ_VJC member
> > NAXJA member (Recorder)
> > Sidewinder member
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:54 AM
> > To: 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> > Subject: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I know this is a bit early but I would like to do a 4x4 trip/overnighter
> > out
> > to the Safford area and check out some of the cool trails out there.
> > Anyone interested?
> > Linda
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5232 From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 4:08pm
Subject: Tranny swap
Does anyone know if the 5spd from a 97 4.0 wrangler is the same 5spd used in
the cherokee and what tranfer case came in the wrangler.
5233 From: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 4:34pm
Subject: Re: Tranny swap
The 5 speed is an Aisian AX15 for the 4.0 motor (it's an AX5 for the 2.5L).
The T-case for both is a NV231 (New Venture). New 2k TJ's have an NV tranny.
Doug
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From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
To: VJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 5:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Tranny swap
> Does anyone know if the 5spd from a 97 4.0 wrangler is the same 5spd used
in
> the cherokee and what tranfer case came in the wrangler.
>
>
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5234 From: Eric Marble <EMarble3@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 5:30pm
Subject: Re: Tranny swap
I'm not sure what your looking for , But will have a np231 for sale in a
couple of weeks.
It's out of a 93 wrangler.
----- Original Message -----
From: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
To: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>; VJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 5:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Tranny swap
> The 5 speed is an Aisian AX15 for the 4.0 motor (it's an AX5 for the
2.5L).
> The T-case for both is a NV231 (New Venture). New 2k TJ's have an NV
tranny.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
> To: VJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 5:08 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Tranny swap
>
>
> > Does anyone know if the 5spd from a 97 4.0 wrangler is the same 5spd
used
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> > the cherokee and what tranfer case came in the wrangler.
> >
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5235 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:21pm
Subject: Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
Ross,
Here is a few writeups concerning the TJ fender flare swap.....
http://www.jeeptech.com/body/tjflares/
http://jeepskate.4x4.org/Flares.htm
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
To: azvjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:02 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the rears will do.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> To: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
> the rears will do.
>
>
> > Larry, I don't have any but I am looking hard at cutting my front
fenders.
> > Can those TJ flares be put on after a trim is done?
> > Also, sorry I didn't get up to you this weekend, spent all day on the
> > HDL[HoneyDOList] and the boys 79' CJ.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> > To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 11:31 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the
> > rears will do.
> >
> >
> > > Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are
> > willing
> > > to sell?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> >
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5236 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:34pm
Subject: xj for sale
Hey all,
A friend of mine here in Flagstaff AZ is selling his 86 xj laredo, 2.8 v6,
auto, leather,110,000 miles seems in great shape he wants
only 3500.00 if anyone is interested let me know and I will get more info
and a pic.
Brian Harmon
88 XJ, Dana44 rear, DAna 30 FRont,3.5 in RE lift
Nationl rear leafs, MJ shackles, custom rock rails, custom skid plates,
trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG AT's KO's,
KC's, yada, yada, yada.
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5237 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:42pm
Subject: wheres my ARB!
Hey All,
Parker isnt looking good right about now....the dana44 is stripped down the
gears are ready....but no arb yet ups aint showed up yet! I even have the
national springs readdy to install....the co2 set up in ready....just no
arb!
I will probably still go to take pics of everyone else and play a little
even if im unlocked....its always nice to see my sister anyway.
I have plenty of ride along volunteers too....three from parker and one fron
Lake havasu city.....hope I get the locker tommorrow.
Brian Harmon
88 XJ, Dana44 rear, DAna 30 FRont,3.5 in RE lift
Nationl rear leafs, MJ shackles, custom rock rails, custom skid plates,
trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG AT's KO's,
KC's, yada, yada, yada.
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5238 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 7:02pm
Subject: Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
Perfect, thanks for the help. Now to afford the 35's...;-)
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
To: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>; azvjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:21 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the rears will do.
> Ross,
>
> Here is a few writeups concerning the TJ fender flare swap.....
>
> http://www.jeeptech.com/body/tjflares/
>
> http://jeepskate.4x4.org/Flares.htm
>
> Larry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> To: azvjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:02 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
> the rears will do.
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> > To: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or
just
> > the rears will do.
> >
> >
> > > Larry, I don't have any but I am looking hard at cutting my front
> fenders.
> > > Can those TJ flares be put on after a trim is done?
> > > Also, sorry I didn't get up to you this weekend, spent all day on the
> > > HDL[HoneyDOList] and the boys 79' CJ.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 11:31 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
> the
> > > rears will do.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are
> > > willing
> > > > to sell?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > >
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5214 From: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 22, 2000 1:21pm
Subject: Re: Sunday
ok - here goes
Where: Florence Junction Texaco
When: This Sunday at 8:30
What: Jack Handle trail - rated 3.5
CB: Channel 4
Time: Should be back by mid afternoon
Please post a note if your planning on attending, so we can have a head
count.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
To: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
Cc: Nnote <nnote@n...>; <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:16 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sunday
> When and where are we meeting?
> Linda
>
> DougB wrote:
>
> > I had posted a possible run to Jack Handle (class 3+), but hadn't
> > heard any firm responses. If there are those that wish to go, let me
> > know and I'll post the particulars. Doug
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nnote
> > To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> > Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 1:48 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Sunday
> > Who's going where Sunday?Nick Nnote@n...
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5215 From: Tim Naylor <tim.naylor@w...>
Date: Sat Jan 22, 2000 1:42pm
Subject: FW: Hi-Lift
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Naylor [mailto:tim.naylor@w...]
Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2000 2:39 PM
To: wirch@m...
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Hi-Lift
I bought one of the tire inflators they have and paid $20 for it. I use it
on a CO2 tank. The one I got is for truck tires up to 150lb pressure is not
very usefull for low tire pressure like we use. If the one on sale is the
150 lb one, I don't recomend it.
I appreciate this tip though. My Highlift has a bent main shaft and I was
considering getting a new parts to fix it. I can't by the replacement part
for that price. I'm going to chedk out a new one.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Wirch [mailto:wirch@m...]
Sent: Friday, January 21, 2000 11:34 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Hi-Lift
For those interested, Harbor Freight is having a sale now and they are
selling the 48" hi-lifts for $31.99. Awesome deal. They also have the tire
inflator adaptors (like the ones at the nice gas stations that let you
squeeze the handle and check the air pressure while keeping the chuck on the
valve for $5.97. They normally sell for around $20.00. Lots of other great
stuff too.
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5216 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Thu Jan 20, 2000 1:12pm
Subject: Re: possible camping trip???
I did an overnight trip in mid-December (Dec. 16 & 17) which included Red
Creek (we camped in the creek). We broke 3/4" thick ice from the stagnant
pools of water on the 2nd morning. Obviously temps can fluctuate, but it
got fairly cool that night.
Stu
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: DougB [mailto:daballard@p...]
>Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 22:16
>To: UF RULZ; Melinda Zabritski; az_vjc@m...; Jon Loveless
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: possible camping trip???
>
>
>Senator Highway may be a bit cool, though I kinda like cold
>weather camping.
5217 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Sat Jan 22, 2000 9:49pm
Subject: No Subject
Four of us went to the Coves today and played for about 3 hours. Len - I
guess we missed you, sorry.
Ross, check out the air shots of your rig. Dale also.
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5218 From: Sullivan, Len <LSULLIV@C...>
Date: Sat Jan 22, 2000 10:41pm
Subject: Re: Coves Saturday
Hi Jon
We just got home about half an hour ago. Had to strap two people while we
were there. Everybody did fine until we tried to cross from the second cove
to the third. On the uphill run out of the second cove wash (the big nasty
one) my friend in his '91 Z71 Chevy got crossed up halfway up the hill and
ended up sideways. After backing down and making about a dozen attempts at
the hard side of the hill, he finally gave up and took the bypass to the
north.
The same guy had trouble on the way out.....trying to climb up onto the same
ridge from the other side. He took the wrong line (only his second time in
the dirt and thought the way I went up the hill looked too difficult),
caught a bad bounce off of a mogul and ended up sliding sideways again -
except this time he slid off the main trail and onto the other fork of the
trail leading up the hill. His right rear tire was up on a mogul and the
front was dug into the soft dirt of the other approach, right where the two
paths come together. He was positioned just right so that no matter what he
tried to do, the front end would slide farther down the hill. With the back
end already at an angle to the left from the mogul, any movement of the
front down the hill just intensified the roll-over possibility. Very high
pucker factor on this one....the right front tire was hovering about an inch
off the ground and the whole truck would rock back and forth when he shifted
his weight inside. Some other people had caught up to us, so three of them
stood on the passenger side nerf bar while the other member of our group got
a strap attached to the front of the Chevy. There were 3 trucks at the
bottom of the hill, but I was the only one on top so I backed halfway down
the hill and hooked up. I dragged the front of his truck around so that it
was pointed up the hill and away we went. No more comments about my old
ugly beater from the "shiny Chevy" crowd!
The sun had set behind the mountains by this time, so we had to come most of
the way out in the dark. Just as we started down the last hill leading back
to the trail to the green gate, we saw headlights flashing on the side of a
hill to the west. Three quick flashes, three long flashes, three quick
flashes....pause....repeat. Wonderful. We got to the bottom of the hill
and followed a side trail that looked like it led to the source of the
flashes. Sure enough, after about a quarter of a mile we found a new YJ
wedged against a tree at the bottom of a hill with all four tires dug in to
the axles in soft sand. Since my Jeep had already pulled out Mike's Chevy,
we let Brian (the other member of our party) use his Chevy to pull the Jeep
out.....gotta keep the karma balanced, you know. Once the YJ was unstuck,
we had an uneventful trip out and home.
I got some good videotape of the action (or lack there of) on the hills,
including one segment where my passenger carried the camera up the second
cove to third cove hill. That video portion of that segment is mostly
alternating shots of my dashboard and my roof, but the audio is pretty
neat.......including a shocked "My God, we made it" from the passenger.
This was her first time off road.
All in all we had a good trip. The only damage was to a few people's
pride....no dents, no injuries. Could have been a lot worse. As usual, the
kids had an absolute blast....especially when they got to see Daddy tow
Uncle Mike up the hill (from a safe distance, of course).
Len Sullivan 78 J-10
5219 From: linda luik <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Jan 23, 2000 0:03pm
Subject: Re: Coves Saturday
Len,
You just have way too much fun! :-)
Linda
Sullivan, Len wrote:
> Hi Jon
>
> We just got home about half an hour ago. Had to strap two people while we
> were there. Everybody did fine until we tried to cross from the second cove
> to the third. On the uphill run out of the second cove wash (the big nasty
> one) my friend in his '91 Z71 Chevy got crossed up halfway up the hill and
> ended up sideways. After backing down and making about a dozen attempts at
> the hard side of the hill, he finally gave up and took the bypass to the
> north.
>
> The same guy had trouble on the way out.....trying to climb up onto the same
> ridge from the other side. He took the wrong line (only his second time in
> the dirt and thought the way I went up the hill looked too difficult),
> caught a bad bounce off of a mogul and ended up sliding sideways again -
> except this time he slid off the main trail and onto the other fork of the
> trail leading up the hill. His right rear tire was up on a mogul and the
> front was dug into the soft dirt of the other approach, right where the two
> paths come together. He was positioned just right so that no matter what he
> tried to do, the front end would slide farther down the hill. With the back
> end already at an angle to the left from the mogul, any movement of the
> front down the hill just intensified the roll-over possibility. Very high
> pucker factor on this one....the right front tire was hovering about an inch
> off the ground and the whole truck would rock back and forth when he shifted
> his weight inside. Some other people had caught up to us, so three of them
> stood on the passenger side nerf bar while the other member of our group got
> a strap attached to the front of the Chevy. There were 3 trucks at the
> bottom of the hill, but I was the only one on top so I backed halfway down
> the hill and hooked up. I dragged the front of his truck around so that it
> was pointed up the hill and away we went. No more comments about my old
> ugly beater from the "shiny Chevy" crowd!
>
> The sun had set behind the mountains by this time, so we had to come most of
> the way out in the dark. Just as we started down the last hill leading back
> to the trail to the green gate, we saw headlights flashing on the side of a
> hill to the west. Three quick flashes, three long flashes, three quick
> flashes....pause....repeat. Wonderful. We got to the bottom of the hill
> and followed a side trail that looked like it led to the source of the
> flashes. Sure enough, after about a quarter of a mile we found a new YJ
> wedged against a tree at the bottom of a hill with all four tires dug in to
> the axles in soft sand. Since my Jeep had already pulled out Mike's Chevy,
> we let Brian (the other member of our party) use his Chevy to pull the Jeep
> out.....gotta keep the karma balanced, you know. Once the YJ was unstuck,
> we had an uneventful trip out and home.
>
> I got some good videotape of the action (or lack there of) on the hills,
> including one segment where my passenger carried the camera up the second
> cove to third cove hill. That video portion of that segment is mostly
> alternating shots of my dashboard and my roof, but the audio is pretty
> neat.......including a shocked "My God, we made it" from the passenger.
> This was her first time off road.
>
> All in all we had a good trip. The only damage was to a few people's
> pride....no dents, no injuries. Could have been a lot worse. As usual, the
> kids had an absolute blast....especially when they got to see Daddy tow
> Uncle Mike up the hill (from a safe distance, of course).
>
> Len Sullivan 78 J-10
>
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5220 From: <david.oboyle@b...>
Date: Sun Jan 23, 2000 9:38pm
Subject: Agua Fria river bottom run
Headed out this morning to meet Brain (Silverr) as I dropped off the
side of the road at 10:00 he was waiting ready to play... We aired down
and headed for some of the hills and rock piles.. We then headed over
to the ol' Mud hole for some mud boggin, After the mud boggin we ran
into a fellow member in one BAD
Chopped and locked FS Cherokee. He told us about this huge pit that was
really fun.. So we all headed over to it. on the way over to the big
pit, there were two guys in a rail that were barried up to the rear
axles, (sorry can't rember your name) BAD FS Cherokee owner, stopped
off to give the two guys a tug. We were close behind him to assist if
need be. He deffinately needed no assistance yanking that little buggy
out of the 33inch sized holes that it's rear tires dug. On to the Big
pit.. Brian and I stopped at the top, to survey the area and the big
cherokee headed down to play. Brian decided to head down and check it
out. After climbing one hill and almost taking out a 3wheeler that was
foolishly playing chicken on a very big and steep hill Brian decided to
head back to where I was parked. After chatting and watching the ATV'S
and Dirt bikes play we decided to head back over to the Ol' mud hole
and do some more rock climbs. Our FSC friend head for home. I went to
start up my XJ and guess what? No go something decided to kick the
bucket... would turn over but wouldn't start. After about an hour of
trying to figure out the problem we decided to tow it back over to the
area near the road. We headed over to the nearest Circle K to call the
wife so she could get a Wreaker out to tow the XJ home. Oh and on the
way to Circle K Brian's Xj's clutch started acting up, slipping really
bad but after a quick view of the situation and some pumping of the
clutch a few thousand time we were back on the road. When we got to
circle
K we added a little brake fluid to the clutch on Brian's XJ. And this
seemed to clear up the problem.. After I knew the wreaker was heading
out we headed back to the River bottom. Ran into the FSC owner and also
I think a new member in a silver YJ with Relvolvers and lockers front
and rear..(steve, I think?).
about an hour later the flat bead showed up and hauled my XJ home.. I
had a blast even though my rig broke agian for the third week straight.
THANKS to Brian for the tow and the ride to Circle K..
Dave (AZXJ) broken agian!!
5221 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Sun Jan 23, 2000 10:31pm
Subject: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are willing
to sell?
Thanks,
Larry
5222 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 5:27am
Subject: Re: Agua Fria river bottom run
David - you seem jinxed. You sure know how to have fun?!? I hope it is nothing serious and you get back in the saddle to try for week 4.
Jon
At 09:38 PM 1/23/2000 -0800, you wrote:
I had a blast even though my rig broke agian for the third week straight.
Dave (AZXJ) broken agian!!
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5223 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:02am
Subject: Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
To: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the rears will do.
> Larry, I don't have any but I am looking hard at cutting my front fenders.
> Can those TJ flares be put on after a trim is done?
> Also, sorry I didn't get up to you this weekend, spent all day on the
> HDL[HoneyDOList] and the boys 79' CJ.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 11:31 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the
> rears will do.
>
>
> > Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are
> willing
> > to sell?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Larry
> >
> >
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5224 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:58am
Subject: Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
Ross,
They dont fit the front of CJ as well as they do the rear....alignment is a
little off but they will work. Im not sure about trimming up front... I know
the rear allows you to remove quite a bit of sheetmetal. There is a few
webpages out there that have some pics and info on the swap. I'll look for
them later tonight and shoot em off to you.
Lar
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> To: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
> the rears will do.
>
>
> > Larry, I don't have any but I am looking hard at cutting my front
fenders.
> > Can those TJ flares be put on after a trim is done?
> > Also, sorry I didn't get up to you this weekend, spent all day on the
> > HDL[HoneyDOList] and the boys 79' CJ.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> > To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 11:31 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the
> > rears will do.
> >
> >
> > > Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are
> > willing
> > > to sell?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> >
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5225 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 7:29am
Subject: Re: TR - Late February - Safford
I was thinking of the weekend of Feb 26-27. Will that work for the
SideWinders?
The only trail I have been on in the area is the one out to the Pueblo Devol
ruins. I would like to do that one again just to get a closer look at the
ruins. It isn't a tough trail so AZ_VJC members with stock 4x4s wouldn't have
any trouble. Just a thought....
Linda
Keith Orr wrote:
>
> Hello Linda/az_vjc members,
> I have been away from the computer lately, due to school, but was surprised
> as all get out when I noticed the postings about "Safford", and that
> everyone was interested in a run. Well, here you go:
>
> My son and I belong to a local 4x4 club here in Safford, as well as I am a
> member of AZ_VJC. The club I belong to here in Safford is called the:
> AZ SideWinders. They are very interested in doing a combined run with
> us(AZ_VJC), and would like for me to bring this to your attention. There are
> many in this club that know the area around Safford very well, and could
> make your trip to this area worth more. I would like to see an overnighter
> run as well, to give you all coming from distant areas more time for fun.
> If this is something you all would like to do, I can arrange and organize
> (with the help of the SideWinders, and My Son Jared), this run for late Feb.
> Please let me know what you all would like to do, if there is enough
> interest in this, we will make the arrangements. I will also before time
> comes for the event, post trail and environment conditions and ratings, so
> you will know more of where you are going to be running.
> My Son drives a 88 Suzuki Samari, and a 89 Toyota 4x4 pickup, and has been
> on the trails nearly everyday since he was old enough to drive(he is now
> 20), and he knows the area very well. He has lead all the runs to this date
> for SideWinders. He would be glad to lead a run for us. Thanks.
>
> Casper
> AZ_VJC member
> NAXJA member (Recorder)
> Sidewinder member
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:54 AM
> To: 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
>
> Hi All,
> I know this is a bit early but I would like to do a 4x4 trip/overnighter
> out
> to the Safford area and check out some of the cool trails out there.
> Anyone interested?
> Linda
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5226 From: Sam <santley@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 7:49am
Subject: Shifter Rattle
Has anyone worked the problem with the transfer case shifter rattling
on a TJ? It only happens when you take off from a stop.
5227 From: <vanhazel@W...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 8:08am
Subject: Re: Shifter Rattle
Check your motor/transmission/transfercase mounts, you probably have a
broken one.
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:santley@p...]
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 8:50 AM
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Shifter Rattle
Has anyone worked the problem with the transfer case shifter rattling
on a TJ? It only happens when you take off from a stop.
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5228 From: <SSeago1960@a...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 5:20am
Subject: Re: az_vjc digest
can you send to me in a form that doesnt need to be downloaded?
5229 From: josh ragan <joshragan@y...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 11:52am
Subject: Re: Shifter Rattle
I had that problem, slight rattle. Just adjust the
linkage as tight as possible. Went away immediately
after that.
--- Sam <santley@p...> wrote:
> Has anyone worked the problem with the transfer case
> shifter rattling
> on a TJ? It only happens when you take off from a
> stop..
>
>
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5230 From: Linda Luik <p14175@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 1:59pm
Subject: Re: TR - Late February - Safford
There's some great camping spot back there too!
Linda
Keith Orr wrote:
>
> That sounds great Linda. I will talk to the SideWinders this week, and let
> you know. I do not see any problems though. The fact that it is not a hard
> core trail will work best for all, especially for those traveling any
> distance. I also believe the weather will be really good at that time of the
> year. Thanks for the ideas and suggestions. I will talk to you soon!
>
> Casper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:30 AM
> To: Keith Orr; 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
>
> I was thinking of the weekend of Feb 26-27. Will that work for the
> SideWinders?
>
> The only trail I have been on in the area is the one out to the Pueblo Devol
> ruins. I would like to do that one again just to get a closer look at the
> ruins. It isn't a tough trail so AZ_VJC members with stock 4x4s wouldn't
> have
> any trouble. Just a thought....
>
> Linda
>
> Keith Orr wrote:
> >
> > Hello Linda/az_vjc members,
> > I have been away from the computer lately, due to school, but was
> surprised
> > as all get out when I noticed the postings about "Safford", and that
> > everyone was interested in a run. Well, here you go:
> >
> > My son and I belong to a local 4x4 club here in Safford, as well
> as I am a
> > member of AZ_VJC. The club I belong to here in Safford is called the:
> > AZ SideWinders. They are very interested in doing a combined run with
> > us(AZ_VJC), and would like for me to bring this to your attention. There
> are
> > many in this club that know the area around Safford very well, and could
> > make your trip to this area worth more. I would like to see an overnighter
> > run as well, to give you all coming from distant areas more time for fun.
> > If this is something you all would like to do, I can arrange and
> organize
> > (with the help of the SideWinders, and My Son Jared), this run for late
> Feb.
> > Please let me know what you all would like to do, if there is enough
> > interest in this, we will make the arrangements. I will also before time
> > comes for the event, post trail and environment conditions and ratings, so
> > you will know more of where you are going to be running.
> > My Son drives a 88 Suzuki Samari, and a 89 Toyota 4x4 pickup, and
> has been
> > on the trails nearly everyday since he was old enough to drive(he is now
> > 20), and he knows the area very well. He has lead all the runs to this
> date
> > for SideWinders. He would be glad to lead a run for us. Thanks.
> >
> > Casper
> > AZ_VJC member
> > NAXJA member (Recorder)
> > Sidewinder member
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:54 AM
> > To: 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> > Subject: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I know this is a bit early but I would like to do a 4x4 trip/overnighter
> > out
> > to the Safford area and check out some of the cool trails out there.
> > Anyone interested?
> > Linda
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5231 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 2:09pm
Subject: Re: TR - Late February - Safford
Count me in!!
At 02:59 PM 1/24/2000 -0700, Linda Luik wrote:
There's some great camping spot back there too!
Linda
Keith Orr wrote:
>
> That sounds great Linda. I will talk to the SideWinders this week, and let
> you know. I do not see any problems though. The fact that it is not a hard
> core trail will work best for all, especially for those traveling any
> distance. I also believe the weather will be really good at that time of the
> year. Thanks for the ideas and suggestions. I will talk to you soon!
>
> Casper
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:30 AM
> To: Keith Orr; 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
>
> I was thinking of the weekend of Feb 26-27. Will that work for the
> SideWinders?
>
> The only trail I have been on in the area is the one out to the Pueblo Devol
> ruins. I would like to do that one again just to get a closer look at the
> ruins. It isn't a tough trail so AZ_VJC members with stock 4x4s wouldn't
> have
> any trouble. Just a thought....
>
> Linda
>
> Keith Orr wrote:
> >
> > Hello Linda/az_vjc members,
> > I have been away from the computer lately, due to school, but was
> surprised
> > as all get out when I noticed the postings about "Safford", and that
> > everyone was interested in a run. Well, here you go:
> >
> > My son and I belong to a local 4x4 club here in Safford, as well
> as I am a
> > member of AZ_VJC. The club I belong to here in Safford is called the:
> > AZ SideWinders. They are very interested in doing a combined run with
> > us(AZ_VJC), and would like for me to bring this to your attention. There
> are
> > many in this club that know the area around Safford very well, and could
> > make your trip to this area worth more. I would like to see an overnighter
> > run as well, to give you all coming from distant areas more time for fun.
> > If this is something you all would like to do, I can arrange and
> organize
> > (with the help of the SideWinders, and My Son Jared), this run for late
> Feb.
> > Please let me know what you all would like to do, if there is enough
> > interest in this, we will make the arrangements. I will also before time
> > comes for the event, post trail and environment conditions and ratings, so
> > you will know more of where you are going to be running.
> > My Son drives a 88 Suzuki Samari, and a 89 Toyota 4x4 pickup, and
> has been
> > on the trails nearly everyday since he was old enough to drive(he is now
> > 20), and he knows the area very well. He has lead all the runs to this
> date
> > for SideWinders. He would be glad to lead a run for us. Thanks.
> >
> > Casper
> > AZ_VJC member
> > NAXJA member (Recorder)
> > Sidewinder member
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@email.sps.mot.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2000 6:54 AM
> > To: 4x4 Virtual Jeep Club
> > Subject: [az_vjc] TR - Late February - Safford
> >
> > Hi All,
> > I know this is a bit early but I would like to do a 4x4 trip/overnighter
> > out
> > to the Safford area and check out some of the cool trails out there.
> > Anyone interested?
> > Linda
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5232 From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 4:08pm
Subject: Tranny swap
Does anyone know if the 5spd from a 97 4.0 wrangler is the same 5spd used in
the cherokee and what tranfer case came in the wrangler.
5233 From: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 4:34pm
Subject: Re: Tranny swap
The 5 speed is an Aisian AX15 for the 4.0 motor (it's an AX5 for the 2.5L).
The T-case for both is a NV231 (New Venture). New 2k TJ's have an NV tranny.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
To: VJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 5:08 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Tranny swap
> Does anyone know if the 5spd from a 97 4.0 wrangler is the same 5spd used
in
> the cherokee and what tranfer case came in the wrangler.
>
>
>
>
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5234 From: Eric Marble <EMarble3@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 5:30pm
Subject: Re: Tranny swap
I'm not sure what your looking for , But will have a np231 for sale in a
couple of weeks.
It's out of a 93 wrangler.
----- Original Message -----
From: DougB <doug-louisa@h...>
To: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>; VJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 5:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Tranny swap
> The 5 speed is an Aisian AX15 for the 4.0 motor (it's an AX5 for the
2.5L).
> The T-case for both is a NV231 (New Venture). New 2k TJ's have an NV
tranny.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dockmond Tse <chiena@e...>
> To: VJC <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 5:08 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Tranny swap
>
>
> > Does anyone know if the 5spd from a 97 4.0 wrangler is the same 5spd
used
> in
> > the cherokee and what tranfer case came in the wrangler.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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5235 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:21pm
Subject: Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
Ross,
Here is a few writeups concerning the TJ fender flare swap.....
http://www.jeeptech.com/body/tjflares/
http://jeepskate.4x4.org/Flares.htm
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
To: azvjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:02 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the rears will do.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> To: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
> the rears will do.
>
>
> > Larry, I don't have any but I am looking hard at cutting my front
fenders.
> > Can those TJ flares be put on after a trim is done?
> > Also, sorry I didn't get up to you this weekend, spent all day on the
> > HDL[HoneyDOList] and the boys 79' CJ.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> > To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 11:31 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the
> > rears will do.
> >
> >
> > > Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are
> > willing
> > > to sell?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Larry
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >
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> > >
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> > >
> >
>
>
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5236 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:34pm
Subject: xj for sale
Hey all,
A friend of mine here in Flagstaff AZ is selling his 86 xj laredo, 2.8 v6,
auto, leather,110,000 miles seems in great shape he wants
only 3500.00 if anyone is interested let me know and I will get more info
and a pic.
Brian Harmon
88 XJ, Dana44 rear, DAna 30 FRont,3.5 in RE lift
Nationl rear leafs, MJ shackles, custom rock rails, custom skid plates,
trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG AT's KO's,
KC's, yada, yada, yada.
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5237 From: B H <boh105@e...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 6:42pm
Subject: wheres my ARB!
Hey All,
Parker isnt looking good right about now....the dana44 is stripped down the
gears are ready....but no arb yet ups aint showed up yet! I even have the
national springs readdy to install....the co2 set up in ready....just no
arb!
I will probably still go to take pics of everyone else and play a little
even if im unlocked....its always nice to see my sister anyway.
I have plenty of ride along volunteers too....three from parker and one fron
Lake havasu city.....hope I get the locker tommorrow.
Brian Harmon
88 XJ, Dana44 rear, DAna 30 FRont,3.5 in RE lift
Nationl rear leafs, MJ shackles, custom rock rails, custom skid plates,
trashed bumpers, roof basket, 92 radiator conversion,31x10.5 BFG AT's KO's,
KC's, yada, yada, yada.
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5238 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Mon Jan 24, 2000 7:02pm
Subject: Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just the rears will do.
Perfect, thanks for the help. Now to afford the 35's...;-)
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
To: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>; azvjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:21 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
the rears will do.
> Ross,
>
> Here is a few writeups concerning the TJ fender flare swap.....
>
> http://www.jeeptech.com/body/tjflares/
>
> http://jeepskate.4x4.org/Flares.htm
>
> Larry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> To: azvjc <az_vjc@egroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:02 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
> the rears will do.
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
> > To: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 7:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or
just
> > the rears will do.
> >
> >
> > > Larry, I don't have any but I am looking hard at cutting my front
> fenders.
> > > Can those TJ flares be put on after a trim is done?
> > > Also, sorry I didn't get up to you this weekend, spent all day on the
> > > HDL[HoneyDOList] and the boys 79' CJ.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
> > > To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 11:31 PM
> > > Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for TJ Fender Flares... Complete set or just
> the
> > > rears will do.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Looking to put rear TJ flares on my CJ7. Anyone have a set they are
> > > willing
> > > > to sell?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Larry
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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