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5061 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 5:40pm
Subject: last minute Sunday Run
Tricia and I are taking our 2 dogs into Bulldog Canyon Sunday. We will
probably go in to the turnoff and then do some hiking/dog walking before we
head out. 3 to 4 hours. Meet at 10AM at the Usery Pass entrance off Bush
Highway. I will post the GPS waypoint and location tomorrow.
I have a pass to Bulldog, and it is much too nice to stay at home and watch
NFL stuff. If interested, drop me a reply.
Jon
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480-816-6240
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5062 From: Dale M. Schuler <dsoutwest@e...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 6:19pm
Subject: Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
Count me in for the FR42 run tomorrow. Please e-mail time and directions to
meeting place. I will be coming from Mesa, Val Visa & McKelleps. This will
be my first time out with you. Hope my stock Tj will make it okay.Thanks
Dale Schuler
2000TJ (All Stock)
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:10:30 -0800 (PST), UF RULZ wrote:
>
> That's cool with me. I saw some FSR's on sale at
> JCPenny if you can believe it. $30 and you get a
> pretty well set up one. I believe I saw them upstairs
> in the mens department of the PV mall. I'll be
> bringing my cb since that is all I have right now.
> Channel 4 if anyone is wondering. It looks like there
> is going to be a good showing for the romp. If I get
> this wrong, please correct me. So far, I have:
>
> Scott K (leading)
> Aaron (me)
> John Loveless
> Andy Mason
> Pete
> Tom
> Eric Kool
> Rick (maybe)
>
> Where is Joe West? I thought he'd like to try the
> rock trail again and see if he can get that one
> waterfall right this time :). Well, if there are any
> that I forgot, please let me know. See you all
> Saturday morning.
>
>
> --- Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...> wrote:
> > If anyone doing the FR42 run this Saturday has a
> > FSR, please bring it
> > along. I would like to test mine out on the trail.
> > Aaron and Scott - I may
> > meet you at the pay lot by the lake. It is a bit
> > shorter for me to go
> > direct. In any case I *will* be there. I just don't
> > want you to wait in
> > Carefree if I'm not there when you are ready to
> > leave.
> >
> > Jon
> > ---------------------------
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> > 480-816-6240
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> > ----------------------------
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5063 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 6:27pm
Subject: Sat. FR42
Well we have a new(old) baby in the family. We picked up a 79' CJ7 for my oldest boy today. So, we will be there with the 79' and my 84' CJ7. The 79' is pretty stock but it is going to be fun. Now we can Jeep with the whole family, Deb the five boys and I. Not exactly your typical Jeep couple with a Jeep and a Dog...:-) We have been very busy with our business so this is our first chance to get out with the group in months. It looks like there are a lot of new faces in AZVJC now, we are looking forward to meeting them and seeing their Jeeps. I heard it was 8:30am for the rendezvous, is that right. Ross and Deb and crew 84&79; CJ7
5064 From: Keith Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 7:42pm
Subject: T-shirts
Hello gang,
I sent the following shirt orders today. You should receive them in a few
days. ( Leah, George and Bill, Devon, and David K. ). Please let me know if
you do or do not receive them. Sorry it took so long. Thanks,
Casper
5065 From: Alan <alan@t...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 7:44pm
Subject: Roll Cage
Hi All,
Awhile back the subject of roll cages came up and there were a few links posted, I recently did the Format C: thing and I forgot to save my Bookmarks, so if any of you know or have those book-marked, I would appreciate your help.
Thanks
Alan Madrid
(98rolledTJ)-But soon to be back on the trail :o)
5066 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 8:05pm
Subject: Re: Check engine light.
Or the SMOG DOG will get ya...
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@e...]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:44 PM
To: Dockmond Tse
Cc: VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Check engine light.
82,500 miles. At that point the factory service manual states that the
entire
emissions system should be checked. I took my ZJ to the dealer and paid the
$70 to have the light turned off --- they just reset the computer, but you
still get to pay for an hour's worth of work at the shop rate. After I
forked
over the money, the mechanic at the dealership suggested (1) putting a peice
of electric tape over the light or (2) removing the bulb.
I think the owner's manual (at least for the ZJ) states that not checking
the
emissions system can get you in trouble with the law. Yeah right! The worse
that couold happen is that you won't pass emissions on the first trip.
Linda
Dockmond Tse wrote:
>
> I hear the check engine like comes on at a certain amount of mileage to
> remind the owner to get it serviced. Not sure if that's right. But how can
> you turn it off without taking it to the dealer or removing the
bulb????????
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5067 From: Aaron <Scoopman_2000@y...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 8:54pm
Subject: Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
From Mesa you will take 101 N to Shea...head West till you reach Scottsdale
Road then head North till you get the Carefree Highway. We will be meeting
up at 9 am on the Southwest corner in the ABCO parkinglot. See you there.
Aaron
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale M. Schuler <dsoutwest@e...>
To: UF RULZ <scoopman_2000@y...>; <az_vjc@egroups.com>;
<jloveless@e...>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
> Count me in for the FR42 run tomorrow. Please e-mail time and directions
to
> meeting place. I will be coming from Mesa, Val Visa & McKelleps. This
will
> be my first time out with you. Hope my stock Tj will make it okay.Thanks
>
> Dale Schuler
> 2000TJ (All Stock)
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:10:30 -0800 (PST), UF RULZ wrote:
>
> >
> > That's cool with me. I saw some FSR's on sale at
> > JCPenny if you can believe it. $30 and you get a
> > pretty well set up one. I believe I saw them upstairs
> > in the mens department of the PV mall. I'll be
> > bringing my cb since that is all I have right now.
> > Channel 4 if anyone is wondering. It looks like there
> > is going to be a good showing for the romp. If I get
> > this wrong, please correct me. So far, I have:
> >
> > Scott K (leading)
> > Aaron (me)
> > John Loveless
> > Andy Mason
> > Pete
> > Tom
> > Eric Kool
> > Rick (maybe)
> >
> > Where is Joe West? I thought he'd like to try the
> > rock trail again and see if he can get that one
> > waterfall right this time :). Well, if there are any
> > that I forgot, please let me know. See you all
> > Saturday morning.
> >
> >
> > --- Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...> wrote:
> > > If anyone doing the FR42 run this Saturday has a
> > > FSR, please bring it
> > > along. I would like to test mine out on the trail.
> > > Aaron and Scott - I may
> > > meet you at the pay lot by the lake. It is a bit
> > > shorter for me to go
> > > direct. In any case I *will* be there. I just don't
> > > want you to wait in
> > > Carefree if I'm not there when you are ready to
> > > leave.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > > ---------------------------
> > > Jon Loveless
> > > 480-816-6240
> > > jloveless@e...
> > > ----------------------------
> > >
> > >
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5068 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 8:51pm
Subject: Re: on board air
Please send us all, the info on the compressor brackets. I am sure we all
would like
a setup like that...
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Maggio [mailto:lmaggio@p...]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
Brad Kilby can sell you the bracketry needed for both on-board air and air
conditioning.
I dont have his contact info right now but I can get it if you are
interested.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric and Tiffany <ROKHOPR1@p...>
To: Josh Ragan <joshragan@y...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:07 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
> YOU CAN BRACKET UP A SECOND AIR COMPRESOR ALONG SIDE YOUR ORIGINAL A/C
> COMPRESOR WITHOUT TO MUCH TROUBLE. IT WORKS VERY WELL I KNOW SOMEONE WHO
HAS
> IT DONE THIS WAY AND ITS AWESOME.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Josh Ragan <joshragan@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:28 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] on board air
>
>
> > I am wondering if anyone has attempted to run air tools with the
> > Quickair II. I am going to have a 2 gallon tank in my bumper and
> > trying to deside what route to go for the compressor. I have been
> > looking into running a AC compressor like the York, but really like my
> > AC in the summer.
> >
> >
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5069 From: Aaron <Scoopman_2000@y...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 8:56pm
Subject: Re: Sat. FR42
You can be there at 8:30 but I'm not guaranteeing that anyone else will be. Actually, the time is set for 9am in the ABCO parkinglot. Check earlier posts for the location, I'm getting sick of typing...lol. See you there.
Aaron
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:27 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Sat. FR42
Well we have a new(old) baby in the family. We picked up a 79' CJ7 for my oldest boy today. So, we will be there with the 79' and my 84' CJ7. The 79' is pretty stock but it is going to be fun. Now we can Jeep with the whole family, Deb the five boys and I. Not exactly your typical Jeep couple with a Jeep and a Dog...:-) We have been very busy with our business so this is our first chance to get out with the group in months. It looks like there are a lot of new faces in AZVJC now, we are looking forward to meeting them and seeing their Jeeps. I heard it was 8:30am for the rendezvous, is that right. Ross and Deb and crew 84&79 CJ7
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5070 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 9:32pm
Subject: Re: on board air
Quite a few people have asked for this info so here ya go.....
http://www.onboardair.com/
As you will see the page is still being constructed but the contact info is
there. 99+ TJ's use different setup and Im not sure Brad has the parts for
those years yet.
Some examples of a dual setup....
http://members.home.net/bdokken/oba2.htm
http://www.harryworld.com/harry/york.html
Personally, I think the York compressor is way too big for a TJ's engine
compartment. The York is nice because it has it's own oil resevoir where as
most other compressors get lubricated from the oil in the freon mixture. I
would rather squirt a little oil in a smaller compressor once every few
months rather then try to squeeze that giant York in a TJ's engine
compartment.
If any one does go with the dual AC/air setup keep us posted and take pics.
Regards,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
To: 'Larry Maggio' <lmaggio@p...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
> Please send us all, the info on the compressor brackets. I am sure we all
> would like
> a setup like that...
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Maggio [mailto:lmaggio@p...]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
>
>
> Brad Kilby can sell you the bracketry needed for both on-board air and air
> conditioning.
>
> I dont have his contact info right now but I can get it if you are
> interested.
> Larry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric and Tiffany <ROKHOPR1@p...>
> To: Josh Ragan <joshragan@y...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:07 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
>
>
> > YOU CAN BRACKET UP A SECOND AIR COMPRESOR ALONG SIDE YOUR ORIGINAL A/C
> > COMPRESOR WITHOUT TO MUCH TROUBLE. IT WORKS VERY WELL I KNOW SOMEONE WHO
> HAS
> > IT DONE THIS WAY AND ITS AWESOME.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Josh Ragan <joshragan@y...>
> > To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:28 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] on board air
> >
> >
> > > I am wondering if anyone has attempted to run air tools with the
> > > Quickair II. I am going to have a 2 gallon tank in my bumper and
> > > trying to deside what route to go for the compressor. I have been
> > > looking into running a AC compressor like the York, but really like my
> > > AC in the summer.
> > >
> > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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5071 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 11:14pm
Subject: comment and question for Linda
Linda,
I saw a letter you wrote to one of the 4wheel Mags. I think thoes guys are
stuck on what they like and don't really appreciate what works for everyone,
Quote from mag. "pizza cutters are out and we like to see rigs with 35's and
36's" (something like that)
It dissapoints me that the people at that magazine think this way. I think
your ZJ is SWEET and my Xj aspires to be similar some day.
Secondly,
Did you get your invite for the Walapi 4wheelers 21st Rally?Just wondering
if you were going to attend. I did recieve mine and am ready to win agian
(LOL)!! Just kidding. I will be there though.. Guess it's time to crown a
new Champ!!
Dave (azxj)
5072 From: Tom Quinn <tquinn@u...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 4:24am
Subject: Re: Roll Cage
Alan - try 4 Wheeler Supply on Washington/32nd. I think they can make
just about anything!
Otherwise, take a look at
Mountain Off-Road Enterprises (M.O.R.E.) at
http://www.mountainoffroad.com
Essentially Off-Road at
http://www.essentiallyoffroad.com
Tom
"alan" <ala-@t...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=5065
> Hi All,
> Awhile back the subject of roll cages came up and there were a
few links posted, I recently did the Format C: thing and I forgot to
save my Bookmarks, so if any of you know or have those book-marked, I
would appreciate your help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Alan Madrid
> (98rolledTJ)-But soon to be back on the trail :o)
>
5073 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 4:52am
Subject: CJ7 swing out
Does anybody have a CJ7 stock tire swing out rack taking up space in
their garage. If so I am looking for one, Appreciate the help.
Ross Skinner.
5074 From: Curtis Barbour <cbarbour@w...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 7:57am
Subject: Saggy XJ
Hi all. I have just recently purchased a '89 Cherokee and have begun some work on the areas needing attention. Most of the work is just performing routine maintenance and getting to know any of the weak spots. I would appreciate any guidance that members may have:
1. The rearend sags...what a shame...I guess I will have to lift it. I am wanting to do about 3". Any guidance on Kits? I would like to replace the rear springs instead of using the add-a-leafs, unless I get good feedback on the add-a-leafs. I would also like to keep surprises down to a minimum, such as driveline and/or steering problems, and $$$$.
2. There is a wonderful little plastic coolant bottle under the hood that I know will leak this summer...any ideas on where to get an upgrade to this weak link?
I am sure there are some XJ owners out there that have been through these problems already. Thanks for any help in advance.
Thanks,
Darin 98TJ&89XJ
5075 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 9:04am
Subject: Re: CJ7 swing out
Yep.... I have one Im not going to use ever again. Just holler and it's
yours.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 5:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] CJ7 swing out
> Does anybody have a CJ7 stock tire swing out rack taking up space in
> their garage. If so I am looking for one, Appreciate the help.
> Ross Skinner.
>
>
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5076 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 9:11am
Subject: Re: Saggy XJ
> Curtis Barbour wrote:
>
> Hi all. I have just recently purchased a '89 Cherokee and have begun
> some work on the areas needing attention. Most of the work is just
> performing routine maintenance and getting to know any of the weak
> spots. I would appreciate any guidance that members may have:
>
> 1. The rearend sags...what a shame...I guess I will have to lift it.
> I am wanting to do about 3". Any guidance on Kits? I would like to
> replace the rear springs instead of using the add-a-leafs, unless I
> get good feedback on the add-a-leafs. I would also like to keep
> surprises down to a minimum, such as driveline and/or steering
> problems, and $$$$.
>
Some links for you. Can't attest to the systems but it gives you
something to look at. Would like to know what you finially choose.
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/cherokee.htm
http://www.rockymountainsusp.com/jeep.htm
http://www.thinkjeep.com/manufacturers/procomp/cherokee/
> 2. There is a wonderful little plastic coolant bottle under the hood
> that I know will leak this summer...any ideas on where to get an
> upgrade to this weak link?
>
The only real upgrade that I have found for this is to replace the
radiator with one from 91+ XJ. As far as them leaking I've found that
if you put a shop towell under the bottle they seem to last a lot
longer. The cooling system design makes it a pain to get the radiator
filled but once you do it doesn't work too bad.
> I am sure there are some XJ owners out there that have been through
> these problems already. Thanks for any help in advance.
>
> Thanks,
> Darin 98TJ&89XJ
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5077 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 9:40am
Subject: Re: Saggy XJ
Darin,
(knocking on wood) I haven't had a tail-dragger yet with my XJ, but agree
that they do need a lift. I haven't come across the "ultimate setup" of
about 3" that I am looking for, but am pretty sure that it will be
something that includes:
Slip-yoke eliminator (probably Rubicon Express)
New rear driveshaft (duh...slip yoke is gone) <G>
New rear springs (not just an add-a-leaf)
New front springs (not spacers)
New, longer lower control arms
Bushings 'R us. The existing rubber and poly doesn't inspire confidence
anymore.
Optional:
Gas tank skid (most likely Tomken)
Steering and oilpan skids
Rock sliders
As for the plastic radiator bottle, I played that game awhile back, and
after talking to Mike Ford at Earnhardt's Parts Counter, we came up with
a cushion for the bottle. He has had some clients pad theirs, but has no
part to do it with. I had just replaced my hoses, so still had the old
one. I cut a 4" or so section out, and split it lengthwise. This goes
under the new bottle, and helps keep it from vibrating on the metal
shelf, which causes a lot of the cracks.
The other option is to replace the radiator and catch bottle with a 92 or
later assembly. This will involve multiple parts, so I would recommend
checking out and comparing the two models side by side to compare. Four
Wheeler did a swap like that about two years ago, so they may be able to
tell you what issue it was in. I have most of the mage from about 1990
on, so if you can find what issue you need, I will try to find the
article.
Good luck to you,
Jim Yucca-man@j...
Dirty 1/2 dozen - Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
http://azvjc.web.com
89 Cherokee 73 CJ5 (RIP)
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 08:57:19 -0700 "Curtis Barbour"
<cbarbour@w...> writes:
> Hi all. I have just recently purchased a '89 Cherokee and have begun
> some work on the areas needing attention. Most of the work is just
> performing routine maintenance and getting to know any of the weak
> spots. I would appreciate any guidance that members may have:
>
> 1. The rearend sags...what a shame...I guess I will have to lift
> it. I am wanting to do about 3". Any guidance on Kits? I would
> like to replace the rear springs instead of using the add-a-leafs,
> unless I get good feedback on the add-a-leafs. I would also like to
> keep surprises down to a minimum, such as driveline and/or steering
> problems, and $$$$.
>
> 2. There is a wonderful little plastic coolant bottle under the
> hood that I know will leak this summer...any ideas on where to get
> an upgrade to this weak link?
>
> I am sure there are some XJ owners out there that have been through
> these problems already. Thanks for any help in advance.
>
> Thanks,
> Darin 98TJ&89XJ
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5080 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 5:20pm
Subject: Re: Check engine light.
That only works for the '97 model TJs.
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
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-----Original Message-----
From: vanhazel@W... [mailto:vanhazel@W...]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:39 AM
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Check engine light.
I dont know if this also works for ZJ's, but on the TJ's if you turn the
ignition switch on/off/on/off/on (pretty fast, i think it has to be within 5
seconds) the check engine light will flash an error code of what the
problem is.. according to the computer anyhow. I have the cross reference
table written down if anyone wants it.
Rick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Luik [SMTP:p14175@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:44 PM
> To: Dockmond Tse
> Cc: VJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Check engine light.
>
> 82,500 miles. At that point the factory service manual states that the
> entire
> emissions system should be checked. I took my ZJ to the dealer and paid
> the
> $70 to have the light turned off --- they just reset the computer, but
> you
> still get to pay for an hour's worth of work at the shop rate. After I
> forked
> over the money, the mechanic at the dealership suggested (1) putting a
> peice
> of electric tape over the light or (2) removing the bulb.
>
> I think the owner's manual (at least for the ZJ) states that not checking
> the
> emissions system can get you in trouble with the law. Yeah right! The
> worse
> that couold happen is that you won't pass emissions on the first trip.
>
> Linda
>
> Dockmond Tse wrote:
> >
> > I hear the check engine like comes on at a certain amount of mileage to
> > remind the owner to get it serviced. Not sure if that's right. But how
> can
> > you turn it off without taking it to the dealer or removing the
> bulb????????
> >
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5082 From: Name <123@1...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 6:07pm
Subject: Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
Well we have a new(old) baby in the family. We picked up a 79' CJ7 for my oldest boy today. So, we will be there with the 79' and my 84' CJ7. The 79' is pretty stock but it is going to be fun. Now we can Jeep with the whole family, Deb the five boys and I. Not exactly your typical couple with a Jeep and a Dog...:-)
We have been very busy with our business so this is our first chance to get out with the group in months. It looks like there are a lot of new faces in AZVJC now, we are looking forward to meeting them and seeing their Jeeps.
I heard it was 8:30am for the rendezvous, is that right.
Ross and Deb and crew
84&79 CJ7
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Loveless
To: Sharxjeep@cs.com ; glenbe@primenet.com ; az_vjc@makelist.com
Cc: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 6:33 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
Last I heard it was 9AM - I guess that means depart the shopping center at 9AM. Yes, Scottsdale and Carefree Hgwy (SR74). It is an Abco food store, I think. Looks like there is going to be a great turn out.
Jon
At 08:00 PM 1/14/2000 -0500, Sharxjeep@cs.com wrote:
Hey all, what time are we meeting again? And are we meeting at Scottsdale
and carefree?
Thanx
Sharky (97 TJ)
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480-816-6240
jloveless@earthlink.net
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5083 From: Name <123@1...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 6:18pm
Subject: Sat. FR42
Well we have a new(old) baby in the family. We picked up a 79' CJ7 for my oldest boy today. So, we will be there with the 79' and my 84' CJ7. The 79' is pretty stock but it is going to be fun. Now we can Jeep with the whole family, Deb the five boys and I. Not exactly your typical Jeep couple with a Jeep and a Dog...:-)
We have been very busy with our business so this is our first chance to get out with the group in months. It looks like there are a lot of new faces in AZVJC now, we are looking forward to meeting them and seeing their Jeeps.
I heard it was 8:30am for the rendezvous, is that right.
Ross and Deb and crew
84&79 CJ7
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5084 From: George Andrews <gandre01@e...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 11:31am
Subject: Re: Saggy XJ
1) The lift kit should include new rear springs.....not add-a-leafs! Blocks are okay, but new springs are better. I ran the Trailmaster lift kit whit add-a-leafs. I was never happy with it as the add-a-leafs broke. I cannot emphasize enough...NEW springs. The blocks will also relocate the rear sway bar dangerously close to the tire....of course, you may want to remove these for added flexibility.
2) The coolant bottle is definitely a weak link....but it leaks before breaks. I have had two XJs (88/89) and run them over 400k and never had a bottle break, and only had to replace 2 leaky ones. Not bad for the AZ desert. I always carry a spare bottle and cap. I picked these up at AMC 4x4 at 67th Ave and Glendale for ~$30.
George Andrews
'82 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
'88 XJ
Avondale Arizona
-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Barbour <cbarbour@worldnet.att.net>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 9:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Saggy XJ
Hi all. I have just recently purchased a '89 Cherokee and have begun some work on the areas needing attention. Most of the work is just performing routine maintenance and getting to know any of the weak spots. I would appreciate any guidance that members may have:
1. The rearend sags...what a shame...I guess I will have to lift it. I am wanting to do about 3". Any guidance on Kits? I would like to replace the rear springs instead of using the add-a-leafs, unless I get good feedback on the add-a-leafs. I would also like to keep surprises down to a minimum, such as driveline and/or steering problems, and $$$$.
2. There is a wonderful little plastic coolant bottle under the hood that I know will leak this summer...any ideas on where to get an upgrade to this weak link?
I am sure there are some XJ owners out there that have been through these problems already. Thanks for any help in advance.
Thanks,
Darin 98TJ&89XJ
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5085 From: Keith Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 4:25pm
Subject: Darin, Sagging XJ ????????
Hello Darin,
I own a 87 XJ, 4.0 I6, auto. I have used a Rancho 3" lift, and found it to
be very disappointing. With the add-a leaf rear,it ruined my springs to make
it really saggy. The front didn't loose any lift, but was really stiff. That
was ok, but I did change it later.
I replaced my Rancho after about two years. I used RE 4.5 spring pack with
1.5 greaseable shackles in the rear and RE 4.5 coils in front. I used RE
lower control arms as well as RE upper control arms, and their adjustable
trackbar. Do this day I have had no vibrations, so I have not installed an
SYE yet. I am running 32x11.50's and have good clearance and articulation. I
have done other mod's as well. If I can help you in any way, feel free to
write.
Great to have you along.
Check out this page. It is for XJ's only.
http://www.naxja.org
Casper
5086 From: <Jeepcj579@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 0:09pm
Subject: new cobra cb
does anyone have the new cobra 75 wx st cb radio??? how does it work??
clear?? compared to others
5087 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 6:00pm
Subject: Re: new cobra cb
I have it, as to several others in the club. I like it very much...it's compact, easy to remove when not in use, and has good range and reception. My only suggestion is that you get an external speaker, since the speaker mike is pretty small and a little hard to hear. I picked up some cheap Radio Shack outdoor stereo speakers, wired 'em for mono and have 'em mounted on my roll bar, right overhead...to the right of my ear. Loud and clear.
If your shopping, check out www.jcre.com . They have pretty good prices.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeepcj579@aol.com
To: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 6:09 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] new cobra cb
does anyone have the new cobra 75 wx st cb radio??? how does it work??
clear?? compared to others
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5088 From: Tom Quinn <tquinn@u...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 6:39pm
Subject: Re: new cobra cb
I also have this model for my YJ. I too agree that an external speaker
would be helpful (although I don't have one yet). I orderd my from
JCRE and paid about $112 including 2 day shipping. I use a 4'
Firestick II with mine (about $40 with wiring).
I mounted the connector in my dash in the panel under my gauges. It
looks fine and is out of the way. Best part is you can remove the
expensive part when not in use.
Tom
"dougb" <daballar-@p...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=5087
> I have it, as to several others in the club. I like it very
much...it's compact, easy to remove when not in use, and has good range
and reception. My only suggestion is that you get an external speaker,
since the speaker mike is pretty small and a little hard to hear. I
picked up some cheap Radio Shack outdoor stereo speakers, wired 'em for
mono and have 'em mounted on my roll bar, right overhead...to the right
of my ear. Loud and clear.
>
> If your shopping, check out www.jcre.com . They have pretty good
prices.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeepcj579@a...
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 6:09 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] new cobra cb
>
>
> does anyone have the new cobra 75 wx st cb radio??? how does it
work??
> clear?? compared to others
>
>
>
5061 From: Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 5:40pm
Subject: last minute Sunday Run
Tricia and I are taking our 2 dogs into Bulldog Canyon Sunday. We will
probably go in to the turnoff and then do some hiking/dog walking before we
head out. 3 to 4 hours. Meet at 10AM at the Usery Pass entrance off Bush
Highway. I will post the GPS waypoint and location tomorrow.
I have a pass to Bulldog, and it is much too nice to stay at home and watch
NFL stuff. If interested, drop me a reply.
Jon
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480-816-6240
jloveless@e...
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5062 From: Dale M. Schuler <dsoutwest@e...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 6:19pm
Subject: Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
Count me in for the FR42 run tomorrow. Please e-mail time and directions to
meeting place. I will be coming from Mesa, Val Visa & McKelleps. This will
be my first time out with you. Hope my stock Tj will make it okay.Thanks
Dale Schuler
2000TJ (All Stock)
On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:10:30 -0800 (PST), UF RULZ wrote:
>
> That's cool with me. I saw some FSR's on sale at
> JCPenny if you can believe it. $30 and you get a
> pretty well set up one. I believe I saw them upstairs
> in the mens department of the PV mall. I'll be
> bringing my cb since that is all I have right now.
> Channel 4 if anyone is wondering. It looks like there
> is going to be a good showing for the romp. If I get
> this wrong, please correct me. So far, I have:
>
> Scott K (leading)
> Aaron (me)
> John Loveless
> Andy Mason
> Pete
> Tom
> Eric Kool
> Rick (maybe)
>
> Where is Joe West? I thought he'd like to try the
> rock trail again and see if he can get that one
> waterfall right this time :). Well, if there are any
> that I forgot, please let me know. See you all
> Saturday morning.
>
>
> --- Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...> wrote:
> > If anyone doing the FR42 run this Saturday has a
> > FSR, please bring it
> > along. I would like to test mine out on the trail.
> > Aaron and Scott - I may
> > meet you at the pay lot by the lake. It is a bit
> > shorter for me to go
> > direct. In any case I *will* be there. I just don't
> > want you to wait in
> > Carefree if I'm not there when you are ready to
> > leave.
> >
> > Jon
> > ---------------------------
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5063 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 6:27pm
Subject: Sat. FR42
Well we have a new(old) baby in the family. We picked up a 79' CJ7 for my oldest boy today. So, we will be there with the 79' and my 84' CJ7. The 79' is pretty stock but it is going to be fun. Now we can Jeep with the whole family, Deb the five boys and I. Not exactly your typical Jeep couple with a Jeep and a Dog...:-) We have been very busy with our business so this is our first chance to get out with the group in months. It looks like there are a lot of new faces in AZVJC now, we are looking forward to meeting them and seeing their Jeeps. I heard it was 8:30am for the rendezvous, is that right. Ross and Deb and crew 84&79; CJ7
5064 From: Keith Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 7:42pm
Subject: T-shirts
Hello gang,
I sent the following shirt orders today. You should receive them in a few
days. ( Leah, George and Bill, Devon, and David K. ). Please let me know if
you do or do not receive them. Sorry it took so long. Thanks,
Casper
5065 From: Alan <alan@t...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 7:44pm
Subject: Roll Cage
Hi All,
Awhile back the subject of roll cages came up and there were a few links posted, I recently did the Format C: thing and I forgot to save my Bookmarks, so if any of you know or have those book-marked, I would appreciate your help.
Thanks
Alan Madrid
(98rolledTJ)-But soon to be back on the trail :o)
5066 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 8:05pm
Subject: Re: Check engine light.
Or the SMOG DOG will get ya...
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Linda Luik [mailto:p14175@e...]
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:44 PM
To: Dockmond Tse
Cc: VJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Check engine light.
82,500 miles. At that point the factory service manual states that the
entire
emissions system should be checked. I took my ZJ to the dealer and paid the
$70 to have the light turned off --- they just reset the computer, but you
still get to pay for an hour's worth of work at the shop rate. After I
forked
over the money, the mechanic at the dealership suggested (1) putting a peice
of electric tape over the light or (2) removing the bulb.
I think the owner's manual (at least for the ZJ) states that not checking
the
emissions system can get you in trouble with the law. Yeah right! The worse
that couold happen is that you won't pass emissions on the first trip.
Linda
Dockmond Tse wrote:
>
> I hear the check engine like comes on at a certain amount of mileage to
> remind the owner to get it serviced. Not sure if that's right. But how can
> you turn it off without taking it to the dealer or removing the
bulb????????
>
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5067 From: Aaron <Scoopman_2000@y...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 8:54pm
Subject: Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
From Mesa you will take 101 N to Shea...head West till you reach Scottsdale
Road then head North till you get the Carefree Highway. We will be meeting
up at 9 am on the Southwest corner in the ABCO parkinglot. See you there.
Aaron
----- Original Message -----
From: Dale M. Schuler <dsoutwest@e...>
To: UF RULZ <scoopman_2000@y...>; <az_vjc@egroups.com>;
<jloveless@e...>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:19 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
> Count me in for the FR42 run tomorrow. Please e-mail time and directions
to
> meeting place. I will be coming from Mesa, Val Visa & McKelleps. This
will
> be my first time out with you. Hope my stock Tj will make it okay.Thanks
>
> Dale Schuler
> 2000TJ (All Stock)
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2000 07:10:30 -0800 (PST), UF RULZ wrote:
>
> >
> > That's cool with me. I saw some FSR's on sale at
> > JCPenny if you can believe it. $30 and you get a
> > pretty well set up one. I believe I saw them upstairs
> > in the mens department of the PV mall. I'll be
> > bringing my cb since that is all I have right now.
> > Channel 4 if anyone is wondering. It looks like there
> > is going to be a good showing for the romp. If I get
> > this wrong, please correct me. So far, I have:
> >
> > Scott K (leading)
> > Aaron (me)
> > John Loveless
> > Andy Mason
> > Pete
> > Tom
> > Eric Kool
> > Rick (maybe)
> >
> > Where is Joe West? I thought he'd like to try the
> > rock trail again and see if he can get that one
> > waterfall right this time :). Well, if there are any
> > that I forgot, please let me know. See you all
> > Saturday morning.
> >
> >
> > --- Jon Loveless <jloveless@e...> wrote:
> > > If anyone doing the FR42 run this Saturday has a
> > > FSR, please bring it
> > > along. I would like to test mine out on the trail.
> > > Aaron and Scott - I may
> > > meet you at the pay lot by the lake. It is a bit
> > > shorter for me to go
> > > direct. In any case I *will* be there. I just don't
> > > want you to wait in
> > > Carefree if I'm not there when you are ready to
> > > leave.
> > >
> > > Jon
> > > ---------------------------
> > > Jon Loveless
> > > 480-816-6240
> > > jloveless@e...
> > > ----------------------------
> > >
> > >
>
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5068 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 8:51pm
Subject: Re: on board air
Please send us all, the info on the compressor brackets. I am sure we all
would like
a setup like that...
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Maggio [mailto:lmaggio@p...]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:50 PM
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
Brad Kilby can sell you the bracketry needed for both on-board air and air
conditioning.
I dont have his contact info right now but I can get it if you are
interested.
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: Eric and Tiffany <ROKHOPR1@p...>
To: Josh Ragan <joshragan@y...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:07 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
> YOU CAN BRACKET UP A SECOND AIR COMPRESOR ALONG SIDE YOUR ORIGINAL A/C
> COMPRESOR WITHOUT TO MUCH TROUBLE. IT WORKS VERY WELL I KNOW SOMEONE WHO
HAS
> IT DONE THIS WAY AND ITS AWESOME.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Josh Ragan <joshragan@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:28 AM
> Subject: [az_vjc] on board air
>
>
> > I am wondering if anyone has attempted to run air tools with the
> > Quickair II. I am going to have a 2 gallon tank in my bumper and
> > trying to deside what route to go for the compressor. I have been
> > looking into running a AC compressor like the York, but really like my
> > AC in the summer.
> >
> >
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5069 From: Aaron <Scoopman_2000@y...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 8:56pm
Subject: Re: Sat. FR42
You can be there at 8:30 but I'm not guaranteeing that anyone else will be. Actually, the time is set for 9am in the ABCO parkinglot. Check earlier posts for the location, I'm getting sick of typing...lol. See you there.
Aaron
----- Original Message -----
From: Ross Skinner
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:27 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Sat. FR42
Well we have a new(old) baby in the family. We picked up a 79' CJ7 for my oldest boy today. So, we will be there with the 79' and my 84' CJ7. The 79' is pretty stock but it is going to be fun. Now we can Jeep with the whole family, Deb the five boys and I. Not exactly your typical Jeep couple with a Jeep and a Dog...:-) We have been very busy with our business so this is our first chance to get out with the group in months. It looks like there are a lot of new faces in AZVJC now, we are looking forward to meeting them and seeing their Jeeps. I heard it was 8:30am for the rendezvous, is that right. Ross and Deb and crew 84&79 CJ7
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5070 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 9:32pm
Subject: Re: on board air
Quite a few people have asked for this info so here ya go.....
http://www.onboardair.com/
As you will see the page is still being constructed but the contact info is
there. 99+ TJ's use different setup and Im not sure Brad has the parts for
those years yet.
Some examples of a dual setup....
http://members.home.net/bdokken/oba2.htm
http://www.harryworld.com/harry/york.html
Personally, I think the York compressor is way too big for a TJ's engine
compartment. The York is nice because it has it's own oil resevoir where as
most other compressors get lubricated from the oil in the freon mixture. I
would rather squirt a little oil in a smaller compressor once every few
months rather then try to squeeze that giant York in a TJ's engine
compartment.
If any one does go with the dual AC/air setup keep us posted and take pics.
Regards,
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
To: 'Larry Maggio' <lmaggio@p...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 9:51 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
> Please send us all, the info on the compressor brackets. I am sure we all
> would like
> a setup like that...
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Maggio [mailto:lmaggio@p...]
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:50 PM
> To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
>
>
> Brad Kilby can sell you the bracketry needed for both on-board air and air
> conditioning.
>
> I dont have his contact info right now but I can get it if you are
> interested.
> Larry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eric and Tiffany <ROKHOPR1@p...>
> To: Josh Ragan <joshragan@y...>; <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 5:07 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: on board air
>
>
> > YOU CAN BRACKET UP A SECOND AIR COMPRESOR ALONG SIDE YOUR ORIGINAL A/C
> > COMPRESOR WITHOUT TO MUCH TROUBLE. IT WORKS VERY WELL I KNOW SOMEONE WHO
> HAS
> > IT DONE THIS WAY AND ITS AWESOME.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Josh Ragan <joshragan@y...>
> > To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:28 AM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] on board air
> >
> >
> > > I am wondering if anyone has attempted to run air tools with the
> > > Quickair II. I am going to have a 2 gallon tank in my bumper and
> > > trying to deside what route to go for the compressor. I have been
> > > looking into running a AC compressor like the York, but really like my
> > > AC in the summer.
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5071 From: O'Boyle, David <David.OBoyle@b...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 11:14pm
Subject: comment and question for Linda
Linda,
I saw a letter you wrote to one of the 4wheel Mags. I think thoes guys are
stuck on what they like and don't really appreciate what works for everyone,
Quote from mag. "pizza cutters are out and we like to see rigs with 35's and
36's" (something like that)
It dissapoints me that the people at that magazine think this way. I think
your ZJ is SWEET and my Xj aspires to be similar some day.
Secondly,
Did you get your invite for the Walapi 4wheelers 21st Rally?Just wondering
if you were going to attend. I did recieve mine and am ready to win agian
(LOL)!! Just kidding. I will be there though.. Guess it's time to crown a
new Champ!!
Dave (azxj)
5072 From: Tom Quinn <tquinn@u...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 4:24am
Subject: Re: Roll Cage
Alan - try 4 Wheeler Supply on Washington/32nd. I think they can make
just about anything!
Otherwise, take a look at
Mountain Off-Road Enterprises (M.O.R.E.) at
http://www.mountainoffroad.com
Essentially Off-Road at
http://www.essentiallyoffroad.com
Tom
"alan" <ala-@t...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=5065
> Hi All,
> Awhile back the subject of roll cages came up and there were a
few links posted, I recently did the Format C: thing and I forgot to
save my Bookmarks, so if any of you know or have those book-marked, I
would appreciate your help.
>
> Thanks
>
> Alan Madrid
> (98rolledTJ)-But soon to be back on the trail :o)
>
5073 From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 4:52am
Subject: CJ7 swing out
Does anybody have a CJ7 stock tire swing out rack taking up space in
their garage. If so I am looking for one, Appreciate the help.
Ross Skinner.
5074 From: Curtis Barbour <cbarbour@w...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 7:57am
Subject: Saggy XJ
Hi all. I have just recently purchased a '89 Cherokee and have begun some work on the areas needing attention. Most of the work is just performing routine maintenance and getting to know any of the weak spots. I would appreciate any guidance that members may have:
1. The rearend sags...what a shame...I guess I will have to lift it. I am wanting to do about 3". Any guidance on Kits? I would like to replace the rear springs instead of using the add-a-leafs, unless I get good feedback on the add-a-leafs. I would also like to keep surprises down to a minimum, such as driveline and/or steering problems, and $$$$.
2. There is a wonderful little plastic coolant bottle under the hood that I know will leak this summer...any ideas on where to get an upgrade to this weak link?
I am sure there are some XJ owners out there that have been through these problems already. Thanks for any help in advance.
Thanks,
Darin 98TJ&89XJ
5075 From: Larry Maggio <lmaggio@p...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 9:04am
Subject: Re: CJ7 swing out
Yep.... I have one Im not going to use ever again. Just holler and it's
yours.
Larry
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From: Ross Skinner <rskinner@s...>
To: <az_vjc@eGroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 5:52 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] CJ7 swing out
> Does anybody have a CJ7 stock tire swing out rack taking up space in
> their garage. If so I am looking for one, Appreciate the help.
> Ross Skinner.
>
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5076 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@h...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 9:11am
Subject: Re: Saggy XJ
> Curtis Barbour wrote:
>
> Hi all. I have just recently purchased a '89 Cherokee and have begun
> some work on the areas needing attention. Most of the work is just
> performing routine maintenance and getting to know any of the weak
> spots. I would appreciate any guidance that members may have:
>
> 1. The rearend sags...what a shame...I guess I will have to lift it.
> I am wanting to do about 3". Any guidance on Kits? I would like to
> replace the rear springs instead of using the add-a-leafs, unless I
> get good feedback on the add-a-leafs. I would also like to keep
> surprises down to a minimum, such as driveline and/or steering
> problems, and $$$$.
>
Some links for you. Can't attest to the systems but it gives you
something to look at. Would like to know what you finially choose.
http://www.rustysoffroad.com/cherokee.htm
http://www.rockymountainsusp.com/jeep.htm
http://www.thinkjeep.com/manufacturers/procomp/cherokee/
> 2. There is a wonderful little plastic coolant bottle under the hood
> that I know will leak this summer...any ideas on where to get an
> upgrade to this weak link?
>
The only real upgrade that I have found for this is to replace the
radiator with one from 91+ XJ. As far as them leaking I've found that
if you put a shop towell under the bottle they seem to last a lot
longer. The cooling system design makes it a pain to get the radiator
filled but once you do it doesn't work too bad.
> I am sure there are some XJ owners out there that have been through
> these problems already. Thanks for any help in advance.
>
> Thanks,
> Darin 98TJ&89XJ
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5077 From: James A Langdon <yucca-man@j...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 9:40am
Subject: Re: Saggy XJ
Darin,
(knocking on wood) I haven't had a tail-dragger yet with my XJ, but agree
that they do need a lift. I haven't come across the "ultimate setup" of
about 3" that I am looking for, but am pretty sure that it will be
something that includes:
Slip-yoke eliminator (probably Rubicon Express)
New rear driveshaft (duh...slip yoke is gone) <G>
New rear springs (not just an add-a-leaf)
New front springs (not spacers)
New, longer lower control arms
Bushings 'R us. The existing rubber and poly doesn't inspire confidence
anymore.
Optional:
Gas tank skid (most likely Tomken)
Steering and oilpan skids
Rock sliders
As for the plastic radiator bottle, I played that game awhile back, and
after talking to Mike Ford at Earnhardt's Parts Counter, we came up with
a cushion for the bottle. He has had some clients pad theirs, but has no
part to do it with. I had just replaced my hoses, so still had the old
one. I cut a 4" or so section out, and split it lengthwise. This goes
under the new bottle, and helps keep it from vibrating on the metal
shelf, which causes a lot of the cracks.
The other option is to replace the radiator and catch bottle with a 92 or
later assembly. This will involve multiple parts, so I would recommend
checking out and comparing the two models side by side to compare. Four
Wheeler did a swap like that about two years ago, so they may be able to
tell you what issue it was in. I have most of the mage from about 1990
on, so if you can find what issue you need, I will try to find the
article.
Good luck to you,
Jim Yucca-man@j...
Dirty 1/2 dozen - Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
http://azvjc.web.com
89 Cherokee 73 CJ5 (RIP)
On Sat, 15 Jan 2000 08:57:19 -0700 "Curtis Barbour"
<cbarbour@w...> writes:
> Hi all. I have just recently purchased a '89 Cherokee and have begun
> some work on the areas needing attention. Most of the work is just
> performing routine maintenance and getting to know any of the weak
> spots. I would appreciate any guidance that members may have:
>
> 1. The rearend sags...what a shame...I guess I will have to lift
> it. I am wanting to do about 3". Any guidance on Kits? I would
> like to replace the rear springs instead of using the add-a-leafs,
> unless I get good feedback on the add-a-leafs. I would also like to
> keep surprises down to a minimum, such as driveline and/or steering
> problems, and $$$$.
>
> 2. There is a wonderful little plastic coolant bottle under the
> hood that I know will leak this summer...any ideas on where to get
> an upgrade to this weak link?
>
> I am sure there are some XJ owners out there that have been through
> these problems already. Thanks for any help in advance.
>
> Thanks,
> Darin 98TJ&89XJ
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5080 From: Stu Olson <solson8@u...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 5:20pm
Subject: Re: Check engine light.
That only works for the '97 model TJs.
Stu Olson N7QJP
Phoenix, AZ DM33vm
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-----Original Message-----
From: vanhazel@W... [mailto:vanhazel@W...]
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 7:39 AM
To: az_vjc@eGroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Check engine light.
I dont know if this also works for ZJ's, but on the TJ's if you turn the
ignition switch on/off/on/off/on (pretty fast, i think it has to be within 5
seconds) the check engine light will flash an error code of what the
problem is.. according to the computer anyhow. I have the cross reference
table written down if anyone wants it.
Rick
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Linda Luik [SMTP:p14175@e...]
> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:44 PM
> To: Dockmond Tse
> Cc: VJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Check engine light.
>
> 82,500 miles. At that point the factory service manual states that the
> entire
> emissions system should be checked. I took my ZJ to the dealer and paid
> the
> $70 to have the light turned off --- they just reset the computer, but
> you
> still get to pay for an hour's worth of work at the shop rate. After I
> forked
> over the money, the mechanic at the dealership suggested (1) putting a
> peice
> of electric tape over the light or (2) removing the bulb.
>
> I think the owner's manual (at least for the ZJ) states that not checking
> the
> emissions system can get you in trouble with the law. Yeah right! The
> worse
> that couold happen is that you won't pass emissions on the first trip.
>
> Linda
>
> Dockmond Tse wrote:
> >
> > I hear the check engine like comes on at a certain amount of mileage to
> > remind the owner to get it serviced. Not sure if that's right. But how
> can
> > you turn it off without taking it to the dealer or removing the
> bulb????????
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5082 From: Name <123@1...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 6:07pm
Subject: Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
Well we have a new(old) baby in the family. We picked up a 79' CJ7 for my oldest boy today. So, we will be there with the 79' and my 84' CJ7. The 79' is pretty stock but it is going to be fun. Now we can Jeep with the whole family, Deb the five boys and I. Not exactly your typical couple with a Jeep and a Dog...:-)
We have been very busy with our business so this is our first chance to get out with the group in months. It looks like there are a lot of new faces in AZVJC now, we are looking forward to meeting them and seeing their Jeeps.
I heard it was 8:30am for the rendezvous, is that right.
Ross and Deb and crew
84&79 CJ7
----- Original Message -----
From: Jon Loveless
To: Sharxjeep@cs.com ; glenbe@primenet.com ; az_vjc@makelist.com
Cc: az_vjc@egroups.com
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2000 6:33 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: List, so far for FR42 on Saturday.......
Last I heard it was 9AM - I guess that means depart the shopping center at 9AM. Yes, Scottsdale and Carefree Hgwy (SR74). It is an Abco food store, I think. Looks like there is going to be a great turn out.
Jon
At 08:00 PM 1/14/2000 -0500, Sharxjeep@cs.com wrote:
Hey all, what time are we meeting again? And are we meeting at Scottsdale
and carefree?
Thanx
Sharky (97 TJ)
---------------------------
Jon Loveless
480-816-6240
jloveless@earthlink.net
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5083 From: Name <123@1...>
Date: Fri Jan 14, 2000 6:18pm
Subject: Sat. FR42
Well we have a new(old) baby in the family. We picked up a 79' CJ7 for my oldest boy today. So, we will be there with the 79' and my 84' CJ7. The 79' is pretty stock but it is going to be fun. Now we can Jeep with the whole family, Deb the five boys and I. Not exactly your typical Jeep couple with a Jeep and a Dog...:-)
We have been very busy with our business so this is our first chance to get out with the group in months. It looks like there are a lot of new faces in AZVJC now, we are looking forward to meeting them and seeing their Jeeps.
I heard it was 8:30am for the rendezvous, is that right.
Ross and Deb and crew
84&79 CJ7
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5084 From: George Andrews <gandre01@e...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 11:31am
Subject: Re: Saggy XJ
1) The lift kit should include new rear springs.....not add-a-leafs! Blocks are okay, but new springs are better. I ran the Trailmaster lift kit whit add-a-leafs. I was never happy with it as the add-a-leafs broke. I cannot emphasize enough...NEW springs. The blocks will also relocate the rear sway bar dangerously close to the tire....of course, you may want to remove these for added flexibility.
2) The coolant bottle is definitely a weak link....but it leaks before breaks. I have had two XJs (88/89) and run them over 400k and never had a bottle break, and only had to replace 2 leaky ones. Not bad for the AZ desert. I always carry a spare bottle and cap. I picked these up at AMC 4x4 at 67th Ave and Glendale for ~$30.
George Andrews
'82 Cherokee WT, 454TBI, TH400, QT, D44s, 35x12.50s, ARBs
'88 XJ
Avondale Arizona
-----Original Message-----
From: Curtis Barbour <cbarbour@worldnet.att.net>
To: az_vjc@egroups.com <az_vjc@egroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 15, 2000 9:07 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Saggy XJ
Hi all. I have just recently purchased a '89 Cherokee and have begun some work on the areas needing attention. Most of the work is just performing routine maintenance and getting to know any of the weak spots. I would appreciate any guidance that members may have:
1. The rearend sags...what a shame...I guess I will have to lift it. I am wanting to do about 3". Any guidance on Kits? I would like to replace the rear springs instead of using the add-a-leafs, unless I get good feedback on the add-a-leafs. I would also like to keep surprises down to a minimum, such as driveline and/or steering problems, and $$$$.
2. There is a wonderful little plastic coolant bottle under the hood that I know will leak this summer...any ideas on where to get an upgrade to this weak link?
I am sure there are some XJ owners out there that have been through these problems already. Thanks for any help in advance.
Thanks,
Darin 98TJ&89XJ
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5085 From: Keith Orr <korr@z...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 4:25pm
Subject: Darin, Sagging XJ ????????
Hello Darin,
I own a 87 XJ, 4.0 I6, auto. I have used a Rancho 3" lift, and found it to
be very disappointing. With the add-a leaf rear,it ruined my springs to make
it really saggy. The front didn't loose any lift, but was really stiff. That
was ok, but I did change it later.
I replaced my Rancho after about two years. I used RE 4.5 spring pack with
1.5 greaseable shackles in the rear and RE 4.5 coils in front. I used RE
lower control arms as well as RE upper control arms, and their adjustable
trackbar. Do this day I have had no vibrations, so I have not installed an
SYE yet. I am running 32x11.50's and have good clearance and articulation. I
have done other mod's as well. If I can help you in any way, feel free to
write.
Great to have you along.
Check out this page. It is for XJ's only.
http://www.naxja.org
Casper
5086 From: <Jeepcj579@a...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 0:09pm
Subject: new cobra cb
does anyone have the new cobra 75 wx st cb radio??? how does it work??
clear?? compared to others
5087 From: DougB <daballard@p...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 6:00pm
Subject: Re: new cobra cb
I have it, as to several others in the club. I like it very much...it's compact, easy to remove when not in use, and has good range and reception. My only suggestion is that you get an external speaker, since the speaker mike is pretty small and a little hard to hear. I picked up some cheap Radio Shack outdoor stereo speakers, wired 'em for mono and have 'em mounted on my roll bar, right overhead...to the right of my ear. Loud and clear.
If your shopping, check out www.jcre.com . They have pretty good prices.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 6:09 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] new cobra cb
does anyone have the new cobra 75 wx st cb radio??? how does it work??
clear?? compared to others
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5088 From: Tom Quinn <tquinn@u...>
Date: Sat Jan 15, 2000 6:39pm
Subject: Re: new cobra cb
I also have this model for my YJ. I too agree that an external speaker
would be helpful (although I don't have one yet). I orderd my from
JCRE and paid about $112 including 2 day shipping. I use a 4'
Firestick II with mine (about $40 with wiring).
I mounted the connector in my dash in the panel under my gauges. It
looks fine and is out of the way. Best part is you can remove the
expensive part when not in use.
Tom
"dougb" <daballar-@p...> wrote:
original article:http://www.egroups.com/group/az_vjc/?start=5087
> I have it, as to several others in the club. I like it very
much...it's compact, easy to remove when not in use, and has good range
and reception. My only suggestion is that you get an external speaker,
since the speaker mike is pretty small and a little hard to hear. I
picked up some cheap Radio Shack outdoor stereo speakers, wired 'em for
mono and have 'em mounted on my roll bar, right overhead...to the right
of my ear. Loud and clear.
>
> If your shopping, check out www.jcre.com . They have pretty good
prices.
>
> Doug
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jeepcj579@a...
> To: az_vjc@egroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2000 6:09 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] new cobra cb
>
>
> does anyone have the new cobra 75 wx st cb radio??? how does it
work??
> clear?? compared to others
>
>
>