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01-09-2004, 05:38 AM
95850-95874
95850 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:34am
Subject: (FS) Clutch Master Cylinder NEW YJ Wrangler
I have a brand new Clutch Master Cylinder that I bought for my 92 YJ that I
ended up no using. I paid $100 for it, 1st $50 takes it. Replace your old
leaky one or keep this as a cheap NEW spare.
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95851 From: Sean Zumkeller <ohmboy11@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:36am
Subject: Re: Hi!
LOL, I think it's already started! I've been scouring Ebay and other
sites for stuff for my jeep! The wife's gonna love it!
Sean
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> You're going to be so broke. ;) Good thing you got a good deal on
> the Jeep. More money for mods. Hope you're ready for the
> addiction. Enjoy it. :)
>
> Mike
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ohmboy11" <ohmboy11@y...> wrote:
> > I'm new here and just wanted to say hello. I bought my first jeep
> > yesterday, a 91' Wrangler. I got a pretty good deal at only
$2700.
> > I'll post some pictures of it later.
> > BTW my name is Sean and I live in Chandler.
95852 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:09am
Subject: Re: FW: Fw: Activist judge ignores facts, outlaws snowmobiles in Yellowstone and Grand Teton
How do they keep those wolves, deer, elk, fish, birds etc. from
leaving the park?
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Micek" <micekc@e...> wrote:
> I am just incredulous that this judge can so blatantly ignore the
facts!
> Fair, impartial.... Obviously not words his pea brain gives any
creedence
> to.
>
> Craig
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> To: "RockRats@yahoogroups. Com" <RockRats@yahoogroups.com>; "Az_Vjc"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:35 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] FW: Fw: Activist judge ignores facts, outlaws
snowmobiles
> in Yellowstone and Grand Teton
>
>
> > Things the news left out of the Yellowstone story on Snowmobiles.
I though
> > some of you would like to see this. Jim F.
> >
> > Arizona RockRats President
> > http://www.rockrats.org/
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Stewart [mailto:john@m...]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:29 PM
> > To: Recipient List Suppressed :
> > Subject: Fwd: Fw: Activist judge ignores facts, outlaws
snowmobiles in
> > Yellowstone and Grand Teton
> >
> >
> > Moderator's Note:
> >
> > On Tuesday the National Park Service issued their
> > plan for winter recreation access to Yellowstone
> > and Grand Teton National Parks.
> >
> > On Wednesday, a Washington DC judge overturned the Park Service
rule.
> >
> > There is a lot of hype floating around the news
> > releases. The below cuts through most of the
> > hype to still unresolved issues. Yellowstone is
> > not about snowmobiles, wildlife, or clean air.
> >
> > Many of you reading this have never and will
> > never be on a snowmobile. Please remember that
> > the same engine technology for snowmobiles is
> > applies to personal water craft and extended to
> > dirt bikes and ATV's.
> >
> >
> >
> > ****************************************
> >
> >
> > Issue Alert from Winningreen A121703
> >
> > Activist judge ignores facts, outlaws snowmobiles
> > in Yellowstone and Grand Teton - becomes the
> > Grinch who stole Christmas from western towns
> >
> > By Gretchen Randall
> >
> > Date: December 17, 2003
> >
> > Issue: Judge Emmett G. Sullivan overturned a
> > Park Service rule that would have allowed
> > snowmobiles in limited numbers into Yellowstone
> > and Grand Teton National Parks. The judge said
> > he ruled as he did because the Clinton
> > administration, in an earlier rule-making
> > process, found that snowmobiles "so adversely
> > impacted the wildlife and resources of the parks
> > that all snowmobile use must be halted."
> >
> > In banning all snowmobiles from the parks in
> > 2004, Sullivan ignored important facts. The new
> > rule would have permitted only 1140 snowmobiles
> > per day and they would have been restricted to
> > existing roads which handle over 1,500,000 motor
> > vehicles per day during summer months. He also
> > failed to recognize that air quality standards
> > have never gone unmet in these parks during the
> > winter and the new rule would have required all
> > snowmobiles in 2005 to use cleaner burning
> > engines.
> >
> > He also failed to take into account the welfare
> > of the many communities surrounding the park that
> > rely on snowmobile traffic to provide jobs and
> > pay for schools.
> >
> > Comment 1: As Richard Pombo, chairman of the
> > House Resources Committee said, "Federal judges
> > continue to abuse their authority by legislating
> > from the bench. This trend must change."
> >
> > Comment 2: As Richard Pombo, chairman of the
> > House Resources Committee said, "If environmental
> > extremists continue to have their way, people
> > will be looking at Yellowstone through plate
> > glass window."
> >
> > Comment 3: The extremists who want to ban
> > snowmobiles in parks will next try to ban motor
> > vehicles in parks as well. Their real motivation
> > is to keep people out of parks entirely.
> >
> > Comment 4: Again, a federal judge has ruled that
> > animals are more important than human beings and
> > their livelihood. It's time the economic impact
> > of judicial and regulatory decisions be
> > considered.
> >
> > Background: The reversal of the Bush
> > administration rule means the previous rule of
> > the Clinton administration will stand which
> > allows only 493 snowmobiles per day in
> > Yellowstone in 2003 and a complete ban of all
> > snowmobile usage in December 2004.
> >
> > The Bush administration plan would have required
> > the use of new technology in engines to achieve a
> > 90 percent reduction in hydrocarbons and a 70
> > percent reduction in CO2, 80 percent of the
> > snowmobile usage would have been with guides.
> >
> > Gretchen Randall
> > Winningreen LLC
> > 3712 N. Broadway ú PMB 279
> > Chicago, IL 60613
> > Phone: 773-857-5086
> > e-mail: trandall@w...
> >
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> > Natural Resource Consultant
> > California Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs,
http://www.ca4wdc.com
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95853 From: AZ Outlaws <azoutlaws@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:39am
Subject: RE: CB radio in console?
Depends on what kind of CB you have.
I have a full size Cobra 29LTD Classic which I mount on top of the dash above the air vents. I remove the radio when not out on the trail (two large screws hold the radio to the mounting bracket).
I permanently mounted the bracket to the dash by drilling two holes and using two bolts. I temporally removed the air vents to in order to secure bolts with self locking nuts and then replaced them after the installation was complete.
If an empty mounting bracket sticking up from the dash when the radio is removed bothers you, then I would not recommend this.
If you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a couple of pictures so you can see for yourself.
Happy trails,
AJ Card
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95854 From: jfant_97tj <jfant@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 0:01pm
Subject: Sticker
I NEED A STICKER FOR MY JEEP...HELP? I SEE JEEPS IN THE EAST VALLEY
WITH THEM, I WANT ONE TOO :<(
PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY PROBLEM
Thx,
JOE F
95855 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 0:08pm
Subject: Re: Sticker
ARE YOU SENDING THIS EMAIL FROM AN IBM MAINFRAME??
JUST CURIOUS. =)
THANKS,
TONY
jfant_97tj wrote:
>I NEED A STICKER FOR MY JEEP...HELP? I SEE JEEPS IN THE EAST VALLEY
>WITH THEM, I WANT ONE TOO :<(
>
>PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY PROBLEM
>
>Thx,
>
>JOE F
>
>
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95856 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 0:22pm
Subject: Re: RE: CB radio in console?: Uniden Pro 538w
A note on Uniden Pro 538w CB radio. Not only does it fit in the slot
where my 1994 YJ Jeep AM/FM/Stereo used to go, but it also fits the Jeep
AM/FM/Stereo BRACKET. I don't know if this is the result of
standardization of car radio/CB accessory dimensions, or just wild
coincidence.
Unfortunately, I don't know if Uniden is still making the Pro 538w.
Also, I removed all the cushion and plastic garbage from my console. I
found an ammo box at Larada's that fits EXACTLY the hole where the old
glove box/hand hold used to be. Wild coincidence. And it doesn't stick
out that far. I am going to have the world's largest glove box. All I
have to do is get some angle iron, bolt/spot weld it in, and add a lock.
Tony
AZ Outlaws wrote:
>Depends on what kind of CB you have.
>
>I have a full size Cobra 29LTD Classic which I mount on top of the dash above the air vents. I remove the radio when not out on the trail (two large screws hold the radio to the mounting bracket).
>
>I permanently mounted the bracket to the dash by drilling two holes and using two bolts. I temporally removed the air vents to in order to secure bolts with self locking nuts and then replaced them after the installation was complete.
>
>If an empty mounting bracket sticking up from the dash when the radio is removed bothers you, then I would not recommend this.
>
>If you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a couple of pictures so you can see for yourself.
>
>Happy trails,
>AJ Card
>
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95857 From: Brandon Reid <mikdiamon@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 0:42pm
Subject: 6th Day Sunday
Jason Laliberty and I are wantin to run 6th day sunday. anyone got
gps coords or want to lead?
Brandon
95858 From: forepenguins <4penguins@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:07pm
Subject: Drive shaft to long??
Looking for some ZJ advice,
I just returned from having my tranny rebuilt and the mechanic said
that my drive shaft was to long. My 95 grand has a 3" teraflex lift
and 32" tires. According to him when my rear axle goes down, the
space between the rear axle and the transmission get shorter, he
said they had to almost force the drive line back in when replacing
the transmission. I have read in here about 'SYE' but I'm not
completely sure what that is, or if I need one. I was going to add
1 3/4" coil spacers front and back this weekend for a little more
height, but now I'm concerned that I might be causing problems doing
this with the driveshaft not the right length.
Any advice is much appreciated.
Thanks Steve
95859 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:13pm
Subject: Re: Wanted: Stock TJ Spare Tire Carrier
Thanks Kent (and Dan for offering).
My buddy will be picking the one up from Kent today.
Tom
Message: 8
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:47:52 -0700
From: "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
Subject: Re: Wanted: Stock TJ Spare Tire Carrier
I have one.
602-214-5946
Tom Jacobson wrote:
>Hey there -
>
>Am looking for a stock TJ spare tire carrier that someone has laying
>around gathering dust. A friend needs one in order to carry his
spare
>on a run (or two) over the holidays, and the bumper/carrier he's
fabbing
>won't be done yet.
>
>Does anyone have one of these they'd be willing to donate to his
>cause?
>
>Please "reply to all" as his email and my home addy is in the cc:
>list.
>
>Thanks and Merry Christmas!
>
>Tom Jacobson
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95860 From: Tom Schenk <tomschenk1@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:15pm
Subject: CB Installation
I just finished up with my CB relocation. Living in the ghetto has
made me worry about the safety of my CB all hanging outunder the
dash. I moved it inside of the glove box area and worry no more.
Here is the link to pics. Directions/descriptions are in the
captions under the pics. As always email or call me if anyone wants
to try it and wants better directions. Behold...
http://community.webshots.com/user/tomschenk1
95861 From: Tom Schenk <tomschenk1@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:22pm
Subject: Re: Steering box
My Haynes manual doesn't say anything about adjustment on the box.
Can someone help point me in the right direction on where it is and
what to do when I find it. (that sounds weird)
Tom
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, rokkcrawler@a... wrote:
> That is a typical problem for them steering boxes........there is
an
> adjustment screw/bolt on the top of the box........get a Chilton
manual and read up on
> it. Probably all you have to do is just make a simple adjustment
and save
> lots of money.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95862 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:39pm
Subject: How are Frank and Cheech doing?
Had not heard how things are going lately, just wanted to be sure
they are still both doing well.
Chris
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95863 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:54pm
Subject: Re: Drive shaft to long??
The transmission shop put the rear drive shaft back in with the rear
axle unsupported. It doesn't matter how much lift you have on the ZJ
(and most likely the TJs too), it will do the same thing if the rear
sway bar has been removed and you are using short control arms. If
they had to force it, I would carefully examine the rear drive shaft.
I did an SYE on my ZJ, but a modified SY drive shaft would have been
sufficient. With a 3" lift you don't need anything -- unless you are
planning on jumping the Jeep. If I were to do it again, I would have
gone to a long arm set up on the rear. The long arm effectively keeps
the axle in a larger swing and doesn't cause a lot of
extension/compression in the drive shaft.
The AZVJC is focused primarily on TJ modifications. TJs and ZJs are
apples and oranges in suspension design and behavior characteristics.
I would post this question to a newsgroup that is ZJ focused.
One more thing. ZJs really don't like polyurethane in the suspension,
particularly the control arm bushings. I know there isn't a lot of
choices out there, but look for somthing with greaseable Johnny
joints or heim-joints on the axle ends. Poly doesn't have
enough "give" and will eventually break off the subframe control arm
brackets.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "forepenguins" <4penguins@c...> wrote:
> Looking for some ZJ advice,
> I just returned from having my tranny rebuilt and the mechanic said
> that my drive shaft was to long. My 95 grand has a 3" teraflex
lift
> and 32" tires. According to him when my rear axle goes down, the
> space between the rear axle and the transmission get shorter, he
> said they had to almost force the drive line back in when replacing
> the transmission. I have read in here about 'SYE' but I'm not
> completely sure what that is, or if I need one. I was going to add
> 1 3/4" coil spacers front and back this weekend for a little more
> height, but now I'm concerned that I might be causing problems
doing
> this with the driveshaft not the right length.
>
> Any advice is much appreciated.
> Thanks Steve
95864 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:17pm
Subject: RE: OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
Most GPS mapping application will import and export GPS data files in
some format or another. Many support some type of text file in a comma
delimited format or something similar to that. Finding common ground,
so to speak, is the trick to sharing GPS info with other users. :)
OziExplorer and import and export in both PCX5 format and also WP+
(Waypoint +) format. Other mapping application may be able to read
OziExplorer's track files (which are also formatted text files).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: rokkcrawler@a... [mailto:rokkcrawler@a...]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:39 PM
To: desertjeep@c...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
I have been using a Dell Laptop and an IPAQ for about 2 years now with
Delorme 3dTopo and Delorme Streets deluxe software. I absolutely love
it. I have
the laptop mounted in two of my Jeeps using a Jotto Desk which was
recommended by the Delorme rep at the Comdex show in Vegas last year.
Everytime
Delorme updates software, I buy the new version. I have had no
problems with the
laptop even with all the jarring it has taken on 3.5 trails though the
IPAQ
being smaller is easier to manage in say a CJ or Wrangler. I can say
that
unless I have an extremely bright day I have not had too many complaints
about
being able to read the displays of either but alot of that depends on
where the
sun is shining in relation to your screen. I can also say that I DO
NOT like
the Delorme GPS units, I have had 4 of them and they have been nothing
but
trouble. I bought a 2nd laptop as a back up on Ebay that was another
Dell
Latitude CPI P-333 last year for $200 but I have not had to use it yet.
Best of
all on both the IPAQ and the Dell, the screens are COLOR. If I had to
make a
choice between the two, I would pick the laptop because the display is
bigger,
it is easier to use and I can dump my memory cards for my digital camera
on
the laptops hard drive anytime during my trip. I also have a cell
phone
interface for the laptop so, now dont laugh, I can surf the web and
check email on
the road or on the trail. Ok there is my two cents. I think Stu has
a good
idea with the Garmin and Ozi software as the Garmin GPS coordinates that
many
of the group has wont work with my Delorme stuff, at least I havent
figured
out how to make them work.
Hope some more opinions and info helps you out .
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95865 From: Mike H. <hiett710@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:38pm
Subject: Re: Is something missing?
Nothing is missing.
Thats how it works with the particular top.
Bestop has a halftop that has no holes it's all 1 piece.
It's very nice.
Mike H.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ohmboy11" <ohmboy11@y...> wrote:
> I am a new Jeep owner and am very new to this. This softtop was in
> the back of the jeep and I did my best to install it without really
> knowing how to do so. I'm not sure if there is anything missing or
if
> it is installed right. Could somebody please have a look and let me
> know? Thanks!
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/pics/5593_031218145239.jpg
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/pics/5593_031218145136.jpg
95866 From: <NVRSTUKXJ@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:46am
Subject: CB Installation
I mounted my CB in the center console, attached to the lid....heres a couple
of pics:
azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915378.jpg
azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915310.jpg
T.J. Gill
75 CJ5 w/Stuff
90 XJ w/Stuff Too
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95867 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:47pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
As Jerry said, I use the computer part of my system only when needed.
For the trails I usually run, I load the GPS with the necessary track
and waypoint data that is stored on the Toughbook. After that, it
normally is turned off and not used again until I am wheelin' a
different trail in another area.
For new trails that I've not run before (someone else is leading), I
simply turn on the tracking in the GPS and download the track later to
the Toughbook (I will normally transfer the track to the desktop PC in
the house and "clean it up", then put it back on the Toughbook).
If you run a trail with me and you want the data for your GPS, just be
sure to bring your GPS's PC cable. If you have a Garmin GPS with the
round 4 pin plug, then don't worry as I have one mounted in my TJ. :)
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: jsteele1999 [mailto:jsteele1999@y...]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:56 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
I'd like to second some of Stu's observations. Forget DeLorme for one.
Been there several times, done that, never again.
I've used several laptops over the years. Difficult but not impossible
to see
in daylight. Have had at least one laptop simply fall apart after about
3 years
of this use (it wasn't a toughbook).
I've also got a Viewsonic one piece tablet pc. The form factor is great
(one solid
piece). However, screen brightness on a tablet PC is a bigger issue
because the
pen screen has inherently lower brightness. I usually have to shield the
display to
see it.
We also have a Garmin iQue PDA which is better than the tablet and seems
more
visible than the laptops. I use Garmin MapSource as well as an
application called
Pathaway that uses real topo maps (imported from National Geographic
TOPO! which
is what I use in the laptop and tablet PC).
As far as software I've never used OziExplorer but have used Fugawi,
TOPO! and Maptech.
If you buy TOPO! buy the Arizona/Utah set if you want true 7.5 minute
topos (not the nationwide
set, the nationwide set you give you a 200% zoom on 15 minute maps to
fake 7.5 minute maps).
The advantage of TOPO! and Maptech is you get all the maps whereas with
Fugawi or
OziExplorer you have to import them. My tablet PC contains the all the
Arizona/Utah topos
on its hard disk. Also, if your PC does not have a serial port to
connect to the GPS but does
have USB, I can tell you detailed stories about what you can and cannot
do and the problems
you'll have with various USB to serial adapters. In a nutshell, if your
still shopping computers and
laptops make every effort to get a true serial port.
Lastly, if you have a Garmin with a large display like Stu's, or my
StreetPilot Color, Garmin
MapSource is an excellent source of "coarse" topo maps. Most of the time
I'll use the GPS
only unless I'm somewhere where I have to see the actual USGS topo. That
saves a lot of
wear and tear on the computer. To this point in time the GPS itself is
the only thing I truly
consider "sunlight readable"
Jerry Steele
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I ran a trail with some friends this past Monday. I had my Panasonic
> Toughbook mounted on the dash and running all day long.
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/gps/gps-3.jpg
>
> The Toughbook was designed with outdoor use in mind. It has a high
> contrast, active matrix, touch screen on it and does quite good. I
use
> to carry a Toshiba active matrix laptop in the TJ and it was just
short
> of impossible to see in the daytime.
>
> More info on my mobile laptop install at
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/gps/gps-3.htm
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Russell [mailto:desertjeep@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:33 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
>
> Hi all,
> Has anyone had any experience with hooking their GPS to a laptop
and
> using the moving map feature of Oziexplorer. My question pertains to
the
> ability to see a laptop screen in different lighting conditions. I've
> got an older laptop that I've considered building a mount for and
using
> in conjunction with my GPS. The screen is not an active matrix. I've
> also seen some info on using a Ipaq or other handhelds. Any input
would
> be appreciated.
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Jim
> Tucson
>
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95868 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:42pm
Subject: FYI: posting links
Just an FYI for folks posting links. If you include the "http://"
protocol tag it'll display as an active link allowing folks to click
it rather than having to cut/paste it into a browser.
ie,
http://www.azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915378.jpg
http://www.azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915310.jpg
versus
> azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915378.jpg
> azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915310.jpg
Some mail programs may display these as active links, but Yahoo's
group site doesn't unless it preceded with the protocol tag.
Matt
K7MTO
95869 From: <NVRSTUKXJ@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:53am
Subject: Re: FYI: posting links
well....the ones you just posted w/proper "protocol" needed to be cut and
pasted to work.....i hate it when machines don't follow protocol......
T.J. Gill
75 CJ5 w/Stuff
90 XJ w/Stuff Too
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95870 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:18pm
Subject: Re: FYI: posting links
The first link works (for me anyway). The second link doesn't but
neither does the original when pasted into the browser.
Anyway, my post wasn't directed to your links specifically, but
posted links in general.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, NVRSTUKXJ@a... wrote:
> well....the ones you just posted w/proper "protocol" needed to be
cut and
> pasted to work.....i hate it when machines don't follow
protocol......
95871 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:26am
Subject: (FS) SOLD ! Mountaineer Rack for YJ Wrangler
SOLD ! Wow, that went quick, thanks for all the replies its gonna look
good in Gregs YJ
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95872 From: ScottG <98tjgreen@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:35pm
Subject: Re: Sticker
that is just to funny!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
To: "jfant_97tj" <jfant@h...>
Cc: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Sticker
> ARE YOU SENDING THIS EMAIL FROM AN IBM MAINFRAME??
> JUST CURIOUS. =)
>
> THANKS,
> TONY
>
> jfant_97tj wrote:
>
> >I NEED A STICKER FOR MY JEEP...HELP? I SEE JEEPS IN THE EAST VALLEY
> >WITH THEM, I WANT ONE TOO :<(
> >
> >PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY PROBLEM
> >
> >Thx,
> >
> >JOE F
> >
> >
> >
> >
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95873 From: ScottG <98tjgreen@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:37pm
Subject: Re: CB Installation
Hey McGiver nice work I knew you would get it done!!
He He He!!!
Scott G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Schenk" <tomschenk1@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] CB Installation
> I just finished up with my CB relocation. Living in the ghetto has
> made me worry about the safety of my CB all hanging outunder the
> dash. I moved it inside of the glove box area and worry no more.
> Here is the link to pics. Directions/descriptions are in the
> captions under the pics. As always email or call me if anyone wants
> to try it and wants better directions. Behold...
> http://community.webshots.com/user/tomschenk1
>
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95874 From: difilipporfmg <difilipporfmg@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:21pm
Subject: New Pics
http://www.geocities.com/Nakonecznyji3dp/index.html
95850 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:34am
Subject: (FS) Clutch Master Cylinder NEW YJ Wrangler
I have a brand new Clutch Master Cylinder that I bought for my 92 YJ that I
ended up no using. I paid $100 for it, 1st $50 takes it. Replace your old
leaky one or keep this as a cheap NEW spare.
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95851 From: Sean Zumkeller <ohmboy11@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:36am
Subject: Re: Hi!
LOL, I think it's already started! I've been scouring Ebay and other
sites for stuff for my jeep! The wife's gonna love it!
Sean
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <msa12171@a...> wrote:
> You're going to be so broke. ;) Good thing you got a good deal on
> the Jeep. More money for mods. Hope you're ready for the
> addiction. Enjoy it. :)
>
> Mike
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ohmboy11" <ohmboy11@y...> wrote:
> > I'm new here and just wanted to say hello. I bought my first jeep
> > yesterday, a 91' Wrangler. I got a pretty good deal at only
$2700.
> > I'll post some pictures of it later.
> > BTW my name is Sean and I live in Chandler.
95852 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:09am
Subject: Re: FW: Fw: Activist judge ignores facts, outlaws snowmobiles in Yellowstone and Grand Teton
How do they keep those wolves, deer, elk, fish, birds etc. from
leaving the park?
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Micek" <micekc@e...> wrote:
> I am just incredulous that this judge can so blatantly ignore the
facts!
> Fair, impartial.... Obviously not words his pea brain gives any
creedence
> to.
>
> Craig
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> To: "RockRats@yahoogroups. Com" <RockRats@yahoogroups.com>; "Az_Vjc"
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:35 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] FW: Fw: Activist judge ignores facts, outlaws
snowmobiles
> in Yellowstone and Grand Teton
>
>
> > Things the news left out of the Yellowstone story on Snowmobiles.
I though
> > some of you would like to see this. Jim F.
> >
> > Arizona RockRats President
> > http://www.rockrats.org/
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Stewart [mailto:john@m...]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 5:29 PM
> > To: Recipient List Suppressed :
> > Subject: Fwd: Fw: Activist judge ignores facts, outlaws
snowmobiles in
> > Yellowstone and Grand Teton
> >
> >
> > Moderator's Note:
> >
> > On Tuesday the National Park Service issued their
> > plan for winter recreation access to Yellowstone
> > and Grand Teton National Parks.
> >
> > On Wednesday, a Washington DC judge overturned the Park Service
rule.
> >
> > There is a lot of hype floating around the news
> > releases. The below cuts through most of the
> > hype to still unresolved issues. Yellowstone is
> > not about snowmobiles, wildlife, or clean air.
> >
> > Many of you reading this have never and will
> > never be on a snowmobile. Please remember that
> > the same engine technology for snowmobiles is
> > applies to personal water craft and extended to
> > dirt bikes and ATV's.
> >
> >
> >
> > ****************************************
> >
> >
> > Issue Alert from Winningreen A121703
> >
> > Activist judge ignores facts, outlaws snowmobiles
> > in Yellowstone and Grand Teton - becomes the
> > Grinch who stole Christmas from western towns
> >
> > By Gretchen Randall
> >
> > Date: December 17, 2003
> >
> > Issue: Judge Emmett G. Sullivan overturned a
> > Park Service rule that would have allowed
> > snowmobiles in limited numbers into Yellowstone
> > and Grand Teton National Parks. The judge said
> > he ruled as he did because the Clinton
> > administration, in an earlier rule-making
> > process, found that snowmobiles "so adversely
> > impacted the wildlife and resources of the parks
> > that all snowmobile use must be halted."
> >
> > In banning all snowmobiles from the parks in
> > 2004, Sullivan ignored important facts. The new
> > rule would have permitted only 1140 snowmobiles
> > per day and they would have been restricted to
> > existing roads which handle over 1,500,000 motor
> > vehicles per day during summer months. He also
> > failed to recognize that air quality standards
> > have never gone unmet in these parks during the
> > winter and the new rule would have required all
> > snowmobiles in 2005 to use cleaner burning
> > engines.
> >
> > He also failed to take into account the welfare
> > of the many communities surrounding the park that
> > rely on snowmobile traffic to provide jobs and
> > pay for schools.
> >
> > Comment 1: As Richard Pombo, chairman of the
> > House Resources Committee said, "Federal judges
> > continue to abuse their authority by legislating
> > from the bench. This trend must change."
> >
> > Comment 2: As Richard Pombo, chairman of the
> > House Resources Committee said, "If environmental
> > extremists continue to have their way, people
> > will be looking at Yellowstone through plate
> > glass window."
> >
> > Comment 3: The extremists who want to ban
> > snowmobiles in parks will next try to ban motor
> > vehicles in parks as well. Their real motivation
> > is to keep people out of parks entirely.
> >
> > Comment 4: Again, a federal judge has ruled that
> > animals are more important than human beings and
> > their livelihood. It's time the economic impact
> > of judicial and regulatory decisions be
> > considered.
> >
> > Background: The reversal of the Bush
> > administration rule means the previous rule of
> > the Clinton administration will stand which
> > allows only 493 snowmobiles per day in
> > Yellowstone in 2003 and a complete ban of all
> > snowmobile usage in December 2004.
> >
> > The Bush administration plan would have required
> > the use of new technology in engines to achieve a
> > 90 percent reduction in hydrocarbons and a 70
> > percent reduction in CO2, 80 percent of the
> > snowmobile usage would have been with guides.
> >
> > Gretchen Randall
> > Winningreen LLC
> > 3712 N. Broadway ú PMB 279
> > Chicago, IL 60613
> > Phone: 773-857-5086
> > e-mail: trandall@w...
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> > Natural Resource Consultant
> > California Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs,
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> > Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
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95853 From: AZ Outlaws <azoutlaws@m...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:39am
Subject: RE: CB radio in console?
Depends on what kind of CB you have.
I have a full size Cobra 29LTD Classic which I mount on top of the dash above the air vents. I remove the radio when not out on the trail (two large screws hold the radio to the mounting bracket).
I permanently mounted the bracket to the dash by drilling two holes and using two bolts. I temporally removed the air vents to in order to secure bolts with self locking nuts and then replaced them after the installation was complete.
If an empty mounting bracket sticking up from the dash when the radio is removed bothers you, then I would not recommend this.
If you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a couple of pictures so you can see for yourself.
Happy trails,
AJ Card
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95854 From: jfant_97tj <jfant@h...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 0:01pm
Subject: Sticker
I NEED A STICKER FOR MY JEEP...HELP? I SEE JEEPS IN THE EAST VALLEY
WITH THEM, I WANT ONE TOO :<(
PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY PROBLEM
Thx,
JOE F
95855 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 0:08pm
Subject: Re: Sticker
ARE YOU SENDING THIS EMAIL FROM AN IBM MAINFRAME??
JUST CURIOUS. =)
THANKS,
TONY
jfant_97tj wrote:
>I NEED A STICKER FOR MY JEEP...HELP? I SEE JEEPS IN THE EAST VALLEY
>WITH THEM, I WANT ONE TOO :<(
>
>PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY PROBLEM
>
>Thx,
>
>JOE F
>
>
>
>
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95856 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 0:22pm
Subject: Re: RE: CB radio in console?: Uniden Pro 538w
A note on Uniden Pro 538w CB radio. Not only does it fit in the slot
where my 1994 YJ Jeep AM/FM/Stereo used to go, but it also fits the Jeep
AM/FM/Stereo BRACKET. I don't know if this is the result of
standardization of car radio/CB accessory dimensions, or just wild
coincidence.
Unfortunately, I don't know if Uniden is still making the Pro 538w.
Also, I removed all the cushion and plastic garbage from my console. I
found an ammo box at Larada's that fits EXACTLY the hole where the old
glove box/hand hold used to be. Wild coincidence. And it doesn't stick
out that far. I am going to have the world's largest glove box. All I
have to do is get some angle iron, bolt/spot weld it in, and add a lock.
Tony
AZ Outlaws wrote:
>Depends on what kind of CB you have.
>
>I have a full size Cobra 29LTD Classic which I mount on top of the dash above the air vents. I remove the radio when not out on the trail (two large screws hold the radio to the mounting bracket).
>
>I permanently mounted the bracket to the dash by drilling two holes and using two bolts. I temporally removed the air vents to in order to secure bolts with self locking nuts and then replaced them after the installation was complete.
>
>If an empty mounting bracket sticking up from the dash when the radio is removed bothers you, then I would not recommend this.
>
>If you're interested, let me know and I'll send you a couple of pictures so you can see for yourself.
>
>Happy trails,
>AJ Card
>
>
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95857 From: Brandon Reid <mikdiamon@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 0:42pm
Subject: 6th Day Sunday
Jason Laliberty and I are wantin to run 6th day sunday. anyone got
gps coords or want to lead?
Brandon
95858 From: forepenguins <4penguins@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:07pm
Subject: Drive shaft to long??
Looking for some ZJ advice,
I just returned from having my tranny rebuilt and the mechanic said
that my drive shaft was to long. My 95 grand has a 3" teraflex lift
and 32" tires. According to him when my rear axle goes down, the
space between the rear axle and the transmission get shorter, he
said they had to almost force the drive line back in when replacing
the transmission. I have read in here about 'SYE' but I'm not
completely sure what that is, or if I need one. I was going to add
1 3/4" coil spacers front and back this weekend for a little more
height, but now I'm concerned that I might be causing problems doing
this with the driveshaft not the right length.
Any advice is much appreciated.
Thanks Steve
95859 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:13pm
Subject: Re: Wanted: Stock TJ Spare Tire Carrier
Thanks Kent (and Dan for offering).
My buddy will be picking the one up from Kent today.
Tom
Message: 8
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:47:52 -0700
From: "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
Subject: Re: Wanted: Stock TJ Spare Tire Carrier
I have one.
602-214-5946
Tom Jacobson wrote:
>Hey there -
>
>Am looking for a stock TJ spare tire carrier that someone has laying
>around gathering dust. A friend needs one in order to carry his
spare
>on a run (or two) over the holidays, and the bumper/carrier he's
fabbing
>won't be done yet.
>
>Does anyone have one of these they'd be willing to donate to his
>cause?
>
>Please "reply to all" as his email and my home addy is in the cc:
>list.
>
>Thanks and Merry Christmas!
>
>Tom Jacobson
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95860 From: Tom Schenk <tomschenk1@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:15pm
Subject: CB Installation
I just finished up with my CB relocation. Living in the ghetto has
made me worry about the safety of my CB all hanging outunder the
dash. I moved it inside of the glove box area and worry no more.
Here is the link to pics. Directions/descriptions are in the
captions under the pics. As always email or call me if anyone wants
to try it and wants better directions. Behold...
http://community.webshots.com/user/tomschenk1
95861 From: Tom Schenk <tomschenk1@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:22pm
Subject: Re: Steering box
My Haynes manual doesn't say anything about adjustment on the box.
Can someone help point me in the right direction on where it is and
what to do when I find it. (that sounds weird)
Tom
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, rokkcrawler@a... wrote:
> That is a typical problem for them steering boxes........there is
an
> adjustment screw/bolt on the top of the box........get a Chilton
manual and read up on
> it. Probably all you have to do is just make a simple adjustment
and save
> lots of money.
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95862 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:39pm
Subject: How are Frank and Cheech doing?
Had not heard how things are going lately, just wanted to be sure
they are still both doing well.
Chris
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95863 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 1:54pm
Subject: Re: Drive shaft to long??
The transmission shop put the rear drive shaft back in with the rear
axle unsupported. It doesn't matter how much lift you have on the ZJ
(and most likely the TJs too), it will do the same thing if the rear
sway bar has been removed and you are using short control arms. If
they had to force it, I would carefully examine the rear drive shaft.
I did an SYE on my ZJ, but a modified SY drive shaft would have been
sufficient. With a 3" lift you don't need anything -- unless you are
planning on jumping the Jeep. If I were to do it again, I would have
gone to a long arm set up on the rear. The long arm effectively keeps
the axle in a larger swing and doesn't cause a lot of
extension/compression in the drive shaft.
The AZVJC is focused primarily on TJ modifications. TJs and ZJs are
apples and oranges in suspension design and behavior characteristics.
I would post this question to a newsgroup that is ZJ focused.
One more thing. ZJs really don't like polyurethane in the suspension,
particularly the control arm bushings. I know there isn't a lot of
choices out there, but look for somthing with greaseable Johnny
joints or heim-joints on the axle ends. Poly doesn't have
enough "give" and will eventually break off the subframe control arm
brackets.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "forepenguins" <4penguins@c...> wrote:
> Looking for some ZJ advice,
> I just returned from having my tranny rebuilt and the mechanic said
> that my drive shaft was to long. My 95 grand has a 3" teraflex
lift
> and 32" tires. According to him when my rear axle goes down, the
> space between the rear axle and the transmission get shorter, he
> said they had to almost force the drive line back in when replacing
> the transmission. I have read in here about 'SYE' but I'm not
> completely sure what that is, or if I need one. I was going to add
> 1 3/4" coil spacers front and back this weekend for a little more
> height, but now I'm concerned that I might be causing problems
doing
> this with the driveshaft not the right length.
>
> Any advice is much appreciated.
> Thanks Steve
95864 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:17pm
Subject: RE: OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
Most GPS mapping application will import and export GPS data files in
some format or another. Many support some type of text file in a comma
delimited format or something similar to that. Finding common ground,
so to speak, is the trick to sharing GPS info with other users. :)
OziExplorer and import and export in both PCX5 format and also WP+
(Waypoint +) format. Other mapping application may be able to read
OziExplorer's track files (which are also formatted text files).
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: rokkcrawler@a... [mailto:rokkcrawler@a...]
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 10:39 PM
To: desertjeep@c...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
I have been using a Dell Laptop and an IPAQ for about 2 years now with
Delorme 3dTopo and Delorme Streets deluxe software. I absolutely love
it. I have
the laptop mounted in two of my Jeeps using a Jotto Desk which was
recommended by the Delorme rep at the Comdex show in Vegas last year.
Everytime
Delorme updates software, I buy the new version. I have had no
problems with the
laptop even with all the jarring it has taken on 3.5 trails though the
IPAQ
being smaller is easier to manage in say a CJ or Wrangler. I can say
that
unless I have an extremely bright day I have not had too many complaints
about
being able to read the displays of either but alot of that depends on
where the
sun is shining in relation to your screen. I can also say that I DO
NOT like
the Delorme GPS units, I have had 4 of them and they have been nothing
but
trouble. I bought a 2nd laptop as a back up on Ebay that was another
Dell
Latitude CPI P-333 last year for $200 but I have not had to use it yet.
Best of
all on both the IPAQ and the Dell, the screens are COLOR. If I had to
make a
choice between the two, I would pick the laptop because the display is
bigger,
it is easier to use and I can dump my memory cards for my digital camera
on
the laptops hard drive anytime during my trip. I also have a cell
phone
interface for the laptop so, now dont laugh, I can surf the web and
check email on
the road or on the trail. Ok there is my two cents. I think Stu has
a good
idea with the Garmin and Ozi software as the Garmin GPS coordinates that
many
of the group has wont work with my Delorme stuff, at least I havent
figured
out how to make them work.
Hope some more opinions and info helps you out .
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95865 From: Mike H. <hiett710@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:38pm
Subject: Re: Is something missing?
Nothing is missing.
Thats how it works with the particular top.
Bestop has a halftop that has no holes it's all 1 piece.
It's very nice.
Mike H.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "ohmboy11" <ohmboy11@y...> wrote:
> I am a new Jeep owner and am very new to this. This softtop was in
> the back of the jeep and I did my best to install it without really
> knowing how to do so. I'm not sure if there is anything missing or
if
> it is installed right. Could somebody please have a look and let me
> know? Thanks!
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/pics/5593_031218145239.jpg
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/pics/5593_031218145136.jpg
95866 From: <NVRSTUKXJ@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 9:46am
Subject: CB Installation
I mounted my CB in the center console, attached to the lid....heres a couple
of pics:
azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915378.jpg
azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915310.jpg
T.J. Gill
75 CJ5 w/Stuff
90 XJ w/Stuff Too
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95867 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 2:47pm
Subject: RE: Re: OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
As Jerry said, I use the computer part of my system only when needed.
For the trails I usually run, I load the GPS with the necessary track
and waypoint data that is stored on the Toughbook. After that, it
normally is turned off and not used again until I am wheelin' a
different trail in another area.
For new trails that I've not run before (someone else is leading), I
simply turn on the tracking in the GPS and download the track later to
the Toughbook (I will normally transfer the track to the desktop PC in
the house and "clean it up", then put it back on the Toughbook).
If you run a trail with me and you want the data for your GPS, just be
sure to bring your GPS's PC cable. If you have a Garmin GPS with the
round 4 pin plug, then don't worry as I have one mounted in my TJ. :)
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: jsteele1999 [mailto:jsteele1999@y...]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:56 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
I'd like to second some of Stu's observations. Forget DeLorme for one.
Been there several times, done that, never again.
I've used several laptops over the years. Difficult but not impossible
to see
in daylight. Have had at least one laptop simply fall apart after about
3 years
of this use (it wasn't a toughbook).
I've also got a Viewsonic one piece tablet pc. The form factor is great
(one solid
piece). However, screen brightness on a tablet PC is a bigger issue
because the
pen screen has inherently lower brightness. I usually have to shield the
display to
see it.
We also have a Garmin iQue PDA which is better than the tablet and seems
more
visible than the laptops. I use Garmin MapSource as well as an
application called
Pathaway that uses real topo maps (imported from National Geographic
TOPO! which
is what I use in the laptop and tablet PC).
As far as software I've never used OziExplorer but have used Fugawi,
TOPO! and Maptech.
If you buy TOPO! buy the Arizona/Utah set if you want true 7.5 minute
topos (not the nationwide
set, the nationwide set you give you a 200% zoom on 15 minute maps to
fake 7.5 minute maps).
The advantage of TOPO! and Maptech is you get all the maps whereas with
Fugawi or
OziExplorer you have to import them. My tablet PC contains the all the
Arizona/Utah topos
on its hard disk. Also, if your PC does not have a serial port to
connect to the GPS but does
have USB, I can tell you detailed stories about what you can and cannot
do and the problems
you'll have with various USB to serial adapters. In a nutshell, if your
still shopping computers and
laptops make every effort to get a true serial port.
Lastly, if you have a Garmin with a large display like Stu's, or my
StreetPilot Color, Garmin
MapSource is an excellent source of "coarse" topo maps. Most of the time
I'll use the GPS
only unless I'm somewhere where I have to see the actual USGS topo. That
saves a lot of
wear and tear on the computer. To this point in time the GPS itself is
the only thing I truly
consider "sunlight readable"
Jerry Steele
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> I ran a trail with some friends this past Monday. I had my Panasonic
> Toughbook mounted on the dash and running all day long.
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/gps/gps-3.jpg
>
> The Toughbook was designed with outdoor use in mind. It has a high
> contrast, active matrix, touch screen on it and does quite good. I
use
> to carry a Toshiba active matrix laptop in the TJ and it was just
short
> of impossible to see in the daytime.
>
> More info on my mobile laptop install at
>
> http://www.stu-offroad.com/gps/gps-3.htm
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Russell [mailto:desertjeep@c...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 8:33 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] OT: Ozieplorer, moving map and laptops
>
> Hi all,
> Has anyone had any experience with hooking their GPS to a laptop
and
> using the moving map feature of Oziexplorer. My question pertains to
the
> ability to see a laptop screen in different lighting conditions. I've
> got an older laptop that I've considered building a mount for and
using
> in conjunction with my GPS. The screen is not an active matrix. I've
> also seen some info on using a Ipaq or other handhelds. Any input
would
> be appreciated.
>
> Thanks to all,
>
> Jim
> Tucson
>
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95868 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 3:42pm
Subject: FYI: posting links
Just an FYI for folks posting links. If you include the "http://"
protocol tag it'll display as an active link allowing folks to click
it rather than having to cut/paste it into a browser.
ie,
http://www.azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915378.jpg
http://www.azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915310.jpg
versus
> azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915378.jpg
> azvjc.org/pics/20_03121915310.jpg
Some mail programs may display these as active links, but Yahoo's
group site doesn't unless it preceded with the protocol tag.
Matt
K7MTO
95869 From: <NVRSTUKXJ@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 10:53am
Subject: Re: FYI: posting links
well....the ones you just posted w/proper "protocol" needed to be cut and
pasted to work.....i hate it when machines don't follow protocol......
T.J. Gill
75 CJ5 w/Stuff
90 XJ w/Stuff Too
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95870 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:18pm
Subject: Re: FYI: posting links
The first link works (for me anyway). The second link doesn't but
neither does the original when pasted into the browser.
Anyway, my post wasn't directed to your links specifically, but
posted links in general.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, NVRSTUKXJ@a... wrote:
> well....the ones you just posted w/proper "protocol" needed to be
cut and
> pasted to work.....i hate it when machines don't follow
protocol......
95871 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 11:26am
Subject: (FS) SOLD ! Mountaineer Rack for YJ Wrangler
SOLD ! Wow, that went quick, thanks for all the replies its gonna look
good in Gregs YJ
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95872 From: ScottG <98tjgreen@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:35pm
Subject: Re: Sticker
that is just to funny!!!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
To: "jfant_97tj" <jfant@h...>
Cc: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Sticker
> ARE YOU SENDING THIS EMAIL FROM AN IBM MAINFRAME??
> JUST CURIOUS. =)
>
> THANKS,
> TONY
>
> jfant_97tj wrote:
>
> >I NEED A STICKER FOR MY JEEP...HELP? I SEE JEEPS IN THE EAST VALLEY
> >WITH THEM, I WANT ONE TOO :<(
> >
> >PLEASE HELP ME WITH MY PROBLEM
> >
> >Thx,
> >
> >JOE F
> >
> >
> >
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95873 From: ScottG <98tjgreen@c...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 4:37pm
Subject: Re: CB Installation
Hey McGiver nice work I knew you would get it done!!
He He He!!!
Scott G
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Schenk" <tomschenk1@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 2:15 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] CB Installation
> I just finished up with my CB relocation. Living in the ghetto has
> made me worry about the safety of my CB all hanging outunder the
> dash. I moved it inside of the glove box area and worry no more.
> Here is the link to pics. Directions/descriptions are in the
> captions under the pics. As always email or call me if anyone wants
> to try it and wants better directions. Behold...
> http://community.webshots.com/user/tomschenk1
>
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95874 From: difilipporfmg <difilipporfmg@y...>
Date: Fri Dec 19, 2003 5:21pm
Subject: New Pics
http://www.geocities.com/Nakonecznyji3dp/index.html