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95672 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:21am
Subject: Re: check this out!
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95673 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:24am
Subject: Re: Table Mesa Cleaup 2002?
I have some in high resolution digital format....let me know if you need them
and I can email them if you have cable or DSL.....it will take forever with
dial up.......also let me know the maximum your ISP will allow you to get in
file size.......MSN is 2 MB good for only one picture...maybe. Hotmail and
Yahoo and the other free ones are less than 1 MB....AOL is 16MB....I think Cox is
3MB from what someone told me
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95674 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:08pm
Subject: Re: BLM Permit
BLM permit for what ??
You don't need a permit to wheel on BLM land (on established trails).
Are you thinking about the State Trust Land permit that's needed to do
anything on State Trust Lands ?
Fred
Bob Menucci wrote:
>I'm in the process of researching what it takes to get a BLM Permit. What I'm looking at is an application for a "Cultural Use Resource Permit". Is this what we apply for?
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95675 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:45pm
Subject: RE: BLM Permit
What is the need for a permit? I don't believe there's anything called
a "Cultural Use Resource Permit". ............... Where are you
looking to do whatever you're going to do........... Phoenix, Tucson,
Havasu etc............. you must apply to the Field Office you're
within.
If it's an OHV Recreation event you need a Special Recreation
Permit...............
If it's a commercial endeavor such as running an OHV Touring Company or
a Hang Gliding business, or ATV Tours or Driving/Safety
Classes........... you need a Special Use Permit.
Fees are normally $80.00 deposit with the application and 3% of GROSS
receipts.
If you need more information please feel free to contact me off line or
call: 480.832.8132
Sandee
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Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:03 PM
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Subject: [az_vjc] BLM Permit
I'm in the process of researching what it takes to get a BLM Permit.
What I'm looking at is an application for a "Cultural Use Resource
Permit". Is this what we apply for?
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95676 From: george Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:04pm
Subject: (FS) '73 Wagoneer
Anybody interested in a '73 Wagoneer. 360 V8, TH400, QT w/lo range. Dana 44's front and rear from a '77 Wagoneer. Reupholstered front seat. New brakes. Body in good condition. New carpet from an '82 Cherokee. Tilt column. I have been working on the interior.
Looking for an XJ for my son.
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee
'73 Wagoneer
'93 Grand Cherokee
'00 Wrangler
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95677 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:57pm
Subject: Re: (FS) '73 Wagoneer
This is too bad it doesn't have the original axles, they are great
swaps for CJ's (5x5.5 with front disc).
--James
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> Anybody interested in a '73 Wagoneer. 360 V8, TH400, QT w/lo
range. Dana 44's front and rear from a '77 Wagoneer. Reupholstered
front seat. New brakes. Body in good condition. New carpet from
an '82 Cherokee. Tilt column. I have been working on the interior.
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95678 From: <Hydrosense@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:19pm
Subject: ROOF RACK SOLD!!!!
I sold tonight, I will be making a couple more so keep an eye on your emails.
I will also have some pics of them also. And a ZJ rack for Rick.
Rob B Y2K-XJ
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95679 From: <urbancrawler@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 7:34pm
Subject: The Automatic buy and sell AX 15 and new
I Think I am going with a 350 turbo so I will be selling my AX 15 and new clutch and asc.
95680 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:35pm
Subject: Precinct Meeting
Just got home from my first Precinct Committee meeting. First impression I
spent 2 hours sitting in a room of about 20 people that included my State
Senator Jim Weiers, and both my State Reps. I sat next to Linda Grey and her
Husband. Doug Quelland and I are getting together the Sat. after Christmas
to do him a favor.
I said nothing to anyone about my interests other then the Republican
party. I wanted to get a feel for everything first and let them get to know
me also. The job consists of getting people registered to vote, helping get
signatures for petitions. Around campaign time you will help out
(volunteer). Most help on the get out and vote drive on election day. They
have a lot of other stuff you can volunteer for.
I got more info tonight on how my State runs then I have ever had out of
the newspaper. All in all I think this is going to be a very interesting
experience.
I also found out all you have to do is one be a registered Republican or
Democrat and call your Party HQ ask where the Precinct meeting for your
district is and go to it. They can sign you up right there.
With the contact I got tonight with my elected officials we can make a
difference this way. We just need more OHV people to jump in an become
Precinct Committeeman. Unless you jump in and volunteer for a lot of extra
stuff the work load is easy.
Jim F.
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
95681 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:46pm
Subject: FW: [PFUSA] Washington Watch (Mike Hardiman)
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
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From: John Stewart [mailto:john@m...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:28 PM
To: Recipient List Suppressed :
Subject: Fwd: [PFUSA] Washington Watch (Mike Hardiman)
Moderator's Note;
The below is a list of bills of interest to everyone concerned about
property rights and access issues.
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http://www.eco.freedom.org/el/20031202/hardiman.shtml
Washington Watch
December 15, 2003
Bills we are watching
GOOD BILLS:
Good Bills - House:
HR 7 (Blunt, R-MO) Faith Based Initiative. HR 7 is a GOOD BILL, which has no
provisions for Tax Favoritism for Land Trusts. Congressman Blunt has
inserted NO special tax loopholes, NO Tax Favoritism for mulitbillion dollar
corporations like The Nature Conservancy (TNC). TNC calls itself a
"non-profit" but profited over $700 million last year alone from grant money
from taxpayers, selling land to government agencies paid by taxpayers, and
insider trading deals underwritten by tax breaks financed by taxpayers.
Congressman Blunt needs to know that he has backing from conservatives
across the country in order to keep this special interest provision - Land
Trust Tax Favoritism - out of the legislation, and carry the battle all the
way to the end. Please address faxes and emails to his staff aide, Ms. April
Ponnuru.
Majority Whip Roy Blunt
Capitol Building, H-326
Washington, DC 20515
Phn 202-225-0197
Fax 202-226-1115
Blunt@m...
Staff person working on this issue: april.ponnuru@m...
ALSO - OUR HERO on this issue is Congressman Wally Herger (R-CA), who has
stood up to the powerful Land Trusts and defeated their efforts to carve
themselves out a billion dollar tax break. THANK Herger by contacting his
staff person Derek Harley: derek.harley@m... TELL Herger to keep
up the great work! Herger is a senior member of the powerful tax-writing
committee, the Ways and Means Committee.
ALSO - Contact your own member of the House of Representatives, no matter
who it is, in support of HR 7 - NO Land Trust Tax Favoritism. This issue has
mixed up the usual "conservatives" and "liberals" into an unpredictable mix,
so ANY House member is fair game to possibly side with us and Roy Blunt in
support of private property rights.
*** IMPORTANT
Tell Congressman Blunt THANK YOU for no more special preferences for
land trusts. S. 476 (see below) is the Faith Based Intitiative's BAD BILL -
it includes a special loophole to discount 25% off of capital gains taxes
for a seller of land - but only if land is sold to a land trust or
government agency! This places churches, private schools and private
property owners at a comparative disadvantage when attempting to purchase
land. This allows the land trust to cut its offering price by nearly the
amount of the tax cut, so effectively the only beneficiary is the land
trust.
H.R.8 (Dunn, R-WA) Permanent repeal of the estate tax, also known as the
Death Tax. The Death Tax is a major factor in breaking up family businesses.
The Nature Conservancy and the other multibillion dollar Land Trusts just
love the Death Tax, because it allows them to hover like buzzards over
family ranches and farms. They dangle conservation easement tax breaks in
front of families when they have their backs against the wall financially,
due to owing the Death Tax because of a death in the family. Think twice,
and look very carefully at the fine print before making a land trust a
co-owner of your land!
THIS BILL has just been approved by the House of Representatives - the
Senate will consider it now.
*** IMPORTANT PRIORITY
Please contact your Senator in SUPPORT of HR 8!
HR 67 (Flake, R-AZ) Disaster Area Exemption Act. Temporarily exempts
federally declared disaster areas from the endless environmental regulations
and appeals which hold up aid for families and cleanup.
HR 353 (Duncan, R - TN) Dispose of all Bureau of Land Management lands
recommended for sale back to private property by the Department of the
Interior.
HR 460 (Hayworth, R-AZ) Study the prevention of wildfires. Senate companion
is S 32.
HR 701 (Paul, R-TX) Will restore to the original owners certain lands that
were seized by the federal government in 1940 for military use, and not
returned even though they have not been used by the feds for many years.
NOTE: You may recall that HR 701 was, in the previous two congresses,
previously the bill number of the "CARA" multi-billion dollar land grab
bill. Now in the 108th Congress, thanks to Ron Paul, it stands for citizens
getting their land back!
HR 849 (Shadegg R-AZ) To authorize the Regional Foresters to exempt
tree-thinning projects, which are necessary to prevent the occurrence of
wildfire likely to cause extreme harm to the forest ecosystem, from laws
that give rise to legal causes of action that delay or prevent such
projects.
HR 1005 (McInnis, R-CO and Gibbons, R-NV) PILT and Refuge Revenue Sharing
Permanent Funding Act. Will fully compensate counties for losses in tax
revenue due to federal government ownership of land (the federal government
does not pay taxes to localities).
HR 1014 (Radanovich R-CA) Requires Federal land managers to communicate and
cooperate with designated gateway communities, to improve these small
communities' ability to participate in Federal land management planning
conducted by the Forest Service and agencies of the Department of the
Interior.
H.R. 1153 (Otter, R-ID) Limits to ten years the amount of time that
Wilderness Study Areas can be studied. If nothing is done in ten years, then
the land reverts back to previous levels of multiple use. This would close
one of the loopholes that is most abused by the leftwing enviros. Right now,
there is NO TIME LIMIT to how long an area can be "studied" for possible
wilderness designation!
HR 1517 (Graves R-MO) Amends the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) to
limit the use of funds available for maintenance purposes, and prohibits
land acquisition. This is an excellent bill that would use all LWCF funds
for upkeep and improvement of campgrounds, bathrooms, trails, roads,
headquarters and interpretive centers. It would prohibit use of the funds
for land acquisition, because federal and state governments already own
nearly 40% of the land in the United States.
HR 1629 (Rehberg, R-MT) Removes private land from the boundaries of the
Missouri Breaks National Monument, which was one of the Midnite Land Grabs
in the closing days of the Clinton Administration.
HR 1662 (Walden, R-OR) Endangered Species Act revisions. Will add a greater
role for the states and require more thorough biological evidence of a
species being endangered before it can be listed as endangered. Companion
bill to S 369.
*** IMPORTANT PRIORITY
This bill needs more cosponsors! Contact your House of
Representatives member and ask them to COSPONSOR HR 1517!
HR 1831 (Renzi, R-AZ) Legislation to keep open Glen Canyon Recreation Area
and Lake Powell for use by personal watercraft.
HR 1904 (Pombo, R-CA, McInnis R-CO) Healthy Forest Initiative. This will
eliminate frivolous lawsuits that needlessly delay timber harvest and
provide grant money to combat insect infestations.
HR 1965 (Gibbons, R-NV) Proposes to amend the Endangered Species Act to
limit its application on military land or private land and to provide
incentives for voluntary habitat maintenance.
HR 2386 (Simpson, R-ID) Requires congressional approval of any national
monuments over 50,000 acres. This a long-needed response to the Clinton
midnite monument land grabs.
HR 2715 (Radanovich, R-CA) A bill to open up Yosemite National Park to more
camping and public access, and end the Sierra Club's special favored status
within the Park.
Good Bills - Senate:
S 32 (Kyl, R-AZ) Study the prevention of wildfires. House companion is HR
460.
S 96, S 169 (both Kyl, R-AZ) The bills differ slightly, but both propose
permanent repeal of the estate tax, also known as the Death Tax. House
companion bills are HR 51, HR 57. Death should NOT be a taxable event!
S 369 (Thomas, R-WY) Endangered Species Act revisions. Will add a greater
role for the states and require more thorough biological evidence of a
species being endangered before it can be claimed as endangered. Cosponsors
so far, include Sen. Hagel (R-NE) and Sen. Craig (R-ID).
S. 372 (Thomas, R-WY) Requires federal agencies to grant state and local
governments "cooperating agency" status in the preparation of Environmental
Impact Statements or other environmental analysis.
S 511 (Binghaman, D-NM) and Ensign, R-NV) Full payment of PILT funds.
Companion bill to HR 1005.
BAD BILLS:
Bad Bills - House:
HR 37 (Boehlert R-NY) Elevate the Environmental Protection Agency to Cabinet
status. This bill rewards bad behavior! It elevates the EPA when the EPA
dedicates far more effort to protecting its power than protecting the
environment.
HR 119 (Hefley, R-CO) The Invasive Species Act. If you think the Endangered
Species Act is a dangerous attack on private property rights, wait till you
see this one! There is a problem with some harmful plants and animals in
many areas of the United States. The federal government already has the
authority to deal with them, when there is enough funding. However, HR 119
proposes a massive new Invasive Species bureaucracy that will be able to
regulate everything from grass on your front lawn to putting greens on golf
courses, to the baby's breath flowers in prom corsages and wedding
arrangements! And there are NO protections for private property rights.
HR 266 (Ehlers, R-MI) National Invasive Species Council Act. Creates an
entirely new federal bureaucracy and establishes an Invasive Species
Council. Private citizens are prohibited from being members of the council -
only federal employees are permitted. "Invasive species" are not native to
an area - like most human beings, for example. Crazy, but true - watch out
for this one!
HR 524 (Frelinghuysen, R-NJ) "Crossroads of the Revolution" National
Heritage Area - Land Grab extending across much of central and northern New
Jersey.
HR 652 (Andrews D-NJ) To make the Wildlands Project into official government
policy - the politically correct name is National Forest Ecosystem
Protection Program. Ruin communities in small towns and rural areas through
federal land use regulation.
HR 1051 (Bereuter R-NE) Would add land acquisition authority to nine more
trails in the National Trails system. This would reward the federal
government's bad behavior in seizing property from innocent people and
paying them only a few cents per dollar of value.
HR 1130 (Holt, D-NJ) Ban snowmobiles in Yellowstone National Park. This may
sound crazy, but don't laugh - it has 134 cosponsors, mostly clueless
northeastern leftists, like Holt.
HR 1964 (Frelinghuysen, R-NJ) Highlands Stewardship Area Act. Two million
acre combined zoning control and land acquisition extending over four states
- Connecticut, New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.
HR 2036 (Isakson, R-GA) Open Space Preservation and Conservation Act. This
would permit $25 BILLION DOLLARS to be used for permanent conservation
easements, giving the Nature Conservancy and other Land Trusts and
government agencies co-ownership in MILLIONS of acres of land. The solution
to keeping agricultural and other rural land in family hands is to repeal
the inheritance tax - instead, this bill would hand over BILLIONS to
powerful land trusts and government agencies to expand their power!
HR 2416 (McGovern, D-MA) Companion bill is S.546, an anti-rockhounding bill,
titled the Paleontological Resources Preservation Act. Places severe
penalties on recreational rockhounding, would permit only "experts" to
disturb public land surfaces.
This is a bill promoted by the cultural and scientific elitists who want the
public lands all for themselves. Retirees and families will be unable to
search for rocks and fossils and sell and exchange them at fairs and rock
shows. Allows for seizure of private vehicles, camping equipment and
anything else the government wants to grab for even minor violations. This
bill assumes that Big Brother Government has all the answers, even though
some of the greatest discoveries of dinosaurs and pre-recorded history has
been done by private individuals.
HR 2964 (Portman, R-OH and Matsui, D-CA) Land Trust Tax Favoritism. Amends
the Internal Revenue Code to provide a tax incentive for land sales for
conservation purposes. This is a gigantic tax break for the Nature
Conservancy and other massive Land Trusts. Sellers of land or water rights
get a tax break of 50% of the capital gain - but ONLY if they sell to a land
trust or a government agency! This will actually do NOTHING to help the
seller of land, because land trusts will just lower their offering price for
property, since they will have such a big advantage in the bidding versus
private parties. This is the same Tax Favoritism proposed for the Faith
Based Initiative (see S 476).
HR 3247 (Tancredo, R-CO) Jacks up penalties for minor violations of often
arbitrarily applied laws on public lands. Hands over too much discretionary
power to public lands enforcement agents.
HR 3283 (Regula, R-OH) Demands a $100 annual fee from every citizen who
wants to set foot on any public lands. Penalties include up to 6 months in
jail. But actually, don't worry, it will all be OK, because the $100
permission slip is called the America the Beautiful Pass.
HR 3324 (Shays, R-CT) Attacks public lands grazing, attempts to force
ranchers off their allotments. At one point, the bill states that it is
"socially just" to shut down public lands grazing.
Bad Bills - Senate:
S. 212 (Bingaman, D-NM) "Study" the Ogallala Aquifer, which is located in
the central United States from South Dakota to Texas. This "study" will most
likely lead to "guidelines" and then federal controls over private land over
tens of millions of acres in the central United States.
S. 230 (Corzine D-NJ) same as HR 524, Heritage Area Land Grab.
S. 324 (Levin D-MI) National Trail Land Acquisition Authority. Companion
land grab legislation to HR 1051.
S. 476 (Grassley, R-IA) is the Faith Based Intitiative's BAD BILL - it
includes a special loophole to discount 25% off of capital gains taxes for a
seller of land - but only if land is sold to a land trust or government
agency! This places churches, private schools and private property owners at
a comparative disadvantage when attempting to purchase land. This allows the
land trust to cut its offering price by nearly the amount of the tax cut, so
effectively the only beneficiary is the land trust. The GOOD BILL is HR 7.
S. 525 (Levin, D-MI) Aquatic Invasive Species Act. Massive land grab with a
price tag of $170 million per year. This CLAIMS to be legislation to keep
foreign species out of American waters by regulating oceangoing ships.
HOWEVER, it ALSO proposes to regulate ALL FRESH WATER in the entire United
States, whether or not it is deep or wide enough for a boat or ship! It also
proposes criminal penalties for violations of any regulations resulting from
the bill - before the regulations are even drawn up!!! This is one of
several disasters in the making moving under the cover of invasive species.
S. 536 (DeWine, R-OH) Creates a National Invasive Species Council. Companion
bill to HR 266. DeWine has a lengthy record of attacking private property
rights, including attempting to force farmers in the proposed Darby Refuge
area out of their homes. DeWine was also a leading supporter of the massive,
unprecedented CARA Land Grab.
S 546 (Akaka, D-HI) Anti-rockhounding bill titled the Paleontological
Resources Preservation Act. Places severe penalties on recreational
rockhounding, would permit only "experts" to disturb public land surfaces.
Allows for seizure of private vehicles, camping equipment and anything else
the government wants to grab for even minor violations. This bill assumes
that Big Brother Government has all the answers, even though some of the
greatest discoveries of dinosaurs and pre-recorded history has been done by
private individuals.
S 635 (Hatch, R-UT) Massive expansion of federal power called the Pioneer
National Historic Trails Studies Act. Requires studies of SIXTY-FOUR trails
in the central and western United States to determine if the federal
government should acquire land and place viewshed restrictions on
surrounding private property. And, just in case the bill misses any land
that the feds want to grab, there is an additional catchall provision that
says "other routes that the Interior Secretary considers appropriate" in
addition to the sixty four routes already listed.
S. 651 (Allard R-CO) National Trails Land Acquisition Act. Expands the
federal government's power to seize property along arbitrarily drawn
"trails." Also has no restrictions against federal agencies claiming
authority over adjacent private property as "buffer zones" and claiming
"viewshed restrictions" over everything that can be seen from a trail!
S. 916 (Bennett, R-UT) National Mormon Pioneer Heritage Area. Federal zoning
proposal for Highway 89, where much of Utah's remaining private land is
located. An incredibly stupid bill from a Senator who is usually supportive
of private property rights.
S. 999 (Corzine, D-NJ) Companion bill to HR 1964, two million acre, four
state land grab.
S. 1515 (Boxer, D-CA) Massive new multimillion acre Wilderness proposal for
California.
Editor's note: Mike Hardiman was Policy Director for Congressman, now
Resources Committee Chairman, Richard Pombo from 1993 to 1999. He is
President of Hardiman Consulting, a lobbying and public relations firm based
in Washington, DC. He is one of the most knowledgeable and effective
lobbyists in Washington on property rights and resource use issues. He can
be reached at hardimanmike@a....
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"The States can best govern our home concerns and the general government our
foreign ones. I wish, therefore...never to see all offices transferred to
Washington, where, further withdrawn from the eyes of the people, they may
more secretly be bought and sold at market." --Thomas Jefferson
--
John Stewart
Director, Environmental Affairs
United Four Wheel Drive Associations, http://www.ufwda.org
Natural Resource Consultant
California Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs, http://www.ca4wdc.com
Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
Moderator, MUIRNet - Multiple Use Information Resource Network
To SUBSCRIBE or UNSUBSCRIBE to MUIRNet, send email to john@m....
95682 From: <urbancrawler@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:52pm
Subject: New Mods.....AND SELLING REBUILT AX 15 &
> IAM ALSO DOING MODS DIFERENT 4 LINK, COMPRESSOR AND TANKS AND YES MAYBE automatic 350 TURBO AND OTHER GOODIES i WILL KEEP IN AREA 58 HMMMMMMMM PROBLEY DOWN AWHILE
> From: Dzrtoffroad@a...
> Date: 2003/12/12 Fri PM 08:39:01 EST
> To: urbancrawler@c...
> Subject: Re: [AZundertakers] Re: Friday night Marathon campers.....
>
> In a message dated 12/12/03 6:33:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> urbancrawler@c... writes:
>
>
> > There can only be one FLIPPER and he live in TUCSON I won,t mention his
> > name oh by the way Steve the Flipper when are we going to do woodys again my
> > flipper picture is gitting kind of faded LOL
> >
>
> next weekend i guess............i'm down this weekend, waiting for parts. i
> guess i could wheel lop-sided or rob a leaf or two out of one pack and put in
> another but i'll wait :)
>
> i was almost gonna do an SOA but decided to just buy one replacement 4.5" SUA
> spring and call it good for now. the springs have sagged over 3 yrears and
> the pass side is 2.5" lower.....so have to get a new pack for the othjer side.
> now the rear will be lower than the front by how much i am not sure yet. i
> might then throw in an extra leaf to the rears. and then hope to get it out of
> the garage :)
>
> letting air out of tires will work.
>
>
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95683 From: rynsdad01 <rynsdad01@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:34pm
Subject: 4x4 Expo
Hello fellow Jeepers,
This years 4x4 Expo at the civic plaza is November 12-14...see you
there....David
95684 From: James Rogers <skijunkie@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:42pm
Subject: Differential Fluid Seepage
I just installed a Rock-It differential glider on the front diff (D30) of my
TJ. Installation of such only requires the removal of 4 bolts from the
diff. While messing with the rear bracket midway through the install, I
noticed a slight seepage on the left side of the diff. It was not enough to
drip, just enough to make the seam on the front cover on the left side
appear wet. Do I need to completely remove the diff cover and reseal it, or
is this normal? Is it possible that a small amount of fluid just seeped out
while I had the bolt removed? TIA.
95685 From: frankgreentj2000 <frankgreentj2000@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:00pm
Subject: Re: 4x4 Expo
I think that Nov. has already passed.
Frank B
98TJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "rynsdad01" <rynsdad01@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Jeepers,
>
> This years 4x4 Expo at the civic plaza is November 12-14...see
you
> there....David
95686 From: olneyjeeps <olneyjeeps@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:01pm
Subject: Re: (FS) '73 Wagoneer
To the best of my knowlege (I've owned 2 '73's, a
72,65,77,77,78,73,85, selling an 88 (all wagoneers)) although the
pre '75's did have 55x5.5 44's, most (I believe all '73's) were
closed knuckle drum brake. Conversion of a newer 6x5.5 front w/disc
is very easy/cheap with stock Jeep and early Ford (hubs) parts though.
I also have a 44 front w/disc (driver side diff) for sale: $250
complete
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> This is too bad it doesn't have the original axles, they are great
> swaps for CJ's (5x5.5 with front disc).
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "george Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
> wrote:
> > Anybody interested in a '73 Wagoneer. 360 V8, TH400, QT w/lo
> range. Dana 44's front and rear from a '77 Wagoneer. Reupholstered
> front seat. New brakes. Body in good condition. New carpet from
> an '82 Cherokee. Tilt column. I have been working on the interior.
> >
> > Looking for an XJ for my son.
> >
> > George Andrews
> > '83 Cherokee
> > '73 Wagoneer
> > '93 Grand Cherokee
> > '00 Wrangler
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95687 From: Jeep <jeep@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:40pm
Subject: BFG MUD T/A's
Anyone know of a good place to get a set of 32/11.50's for a good price? A long time ago, Discount used to give club members a price break on tires. I havent bought any in a while and wondered if anyone knows of a good place to go here in Tucson?
thanks,
Scott
1991 XJ
95688 From: Jeep <jeep@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:51pm
Subject:
Hey there,
I am from Tucson, I used to be actively involved in 4x4Trail riding and just recently bought another Jeep. In Fact I am getting my lift installed this week and will be ready to take it out this coming weekend. Are you looking for locals to go riding with?
Give me a hollar.....
Scott@a...
1991 XJ 4.0 litre
4.5" Rubicon Express Super Flex Lift
SYE and 32" Mud TA's
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From: bbmandd2000 [mailto:bbmandd2000@y...]
Sent: Sat 12/13/2003 7:55 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [az_vjc] Tucson
any good spots to go outside of tucson?
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95689 From: Jeep <jeep@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:37pm
Subject: Sedona and Broken Arrow this coming weekend
HI all,
I am planning to run the Broken Arrow trail this weekend and perhaps some other trails in the Sedona area. I have to be up there for a staff retreat and thought I would just poke around and enjoy the time I have. If there is anyone who would like to join me on the trail, drop me a note and let me know. I would be happy to setup an organized run time and meeting place for anyone who might be interested.
Happy trails!
Scott
1991 XJ
Tucson
95690 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 0:43am
Subject: [TR] FR-42 - Tuesday, December 16, 2003
Hello All,Tom Schenk is leading a FR-42 trail run on Tuesday, December 16, 2003.<br><br>When: Around noon? Call me if anyone wants to meet up 623-266-7226 or 928-225-1379
Where: Bartlet Lake Paystation
Rating: 3.0+
Length: ???
CB Channel: 4
We will drive off of the road and over some rocks and stuff.
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1123
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
95691 From: Tom Schenk <tomschenk1@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 0:46am
Subject: FR-42 trip
Hey,
I'm a goin to do FR-42 today the 16th(tuesday) around noon. If any
other of you unemployed *******s want to screw off today I'll be
there around noonish. Call if you want...623-266-7226 or cell 928-
225-1379. Word
Tom
95692 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:32am
Subject: RE: Mean Green starters?
Roger,
As we discussed I think the MG would be a nice addition to your Jeep. The
strength and torq it provides can get you out of some hairy situations.
The question is do you need it? Does your "great" driving skill ;) warrant
the need for such a starter?
In my case, as most that have wheeled with me know, my ;( driving skill
requires me to use my starter to get over some obsticles. I use my starter
or you could say I pretty much abuse it. I have replaced the autozone
starter once. After about a 1.5 years it gave up the ghost. Fortunatly it
was a slow death like the one you are experiencing.
Truth be told it is actually the Jeep's gearing that requires me to use the
starter at times, not my skill. Or so I like to think. :o
OH BTW 'bout forgot. I copied Frank as I think he is the only one I know
that abuses err I mean uses a MG starter.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:23 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Mean Green starters?
I need to replace my starter. I don't think I want to exercise the
"lifetime warranty" each year with an AutoZone/Checker type starter. So I'm
thinking about the Mean Green starter. Does anyone have experience with
them and can you convince me they're worth their high cost? If not, I may
give Napa a shot.
Thanks,
Roger
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95693 From: <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:38am
Subject: Re: Differential Fluid Seepage
Only way to really tell is clean it up real good and check the next
day. Everytime I hit my rear diff on a rock it seams to leak. So I
try not to hit any rocks :o) I dont know how many times I've resealed
my rear diff. The front diff doesnt have that prob. Jeff CamoXJ--- In
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Rogers" <skijunkie@c...> wrote:
> I just installed a Rock-It differential glider on the front diff
(D30) of my
> TJ. Installation of such only requires the removal of 4 bolts from
the
> diff. While messing with the rear bracket midway through the
install, I
> noticed a slight seepage on the left side of the diff. It was not
enough to
> drip, just enough to make the seam on the front cover on the left
side
> appear wet. Do I need to completely remove the diff cover and
reseal it, or
> is this normal? Is it possible that a small amount of fluid just
seeped out
> while I had the bolt removed? TIA.
95694 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:17am
Subject: RE: Differential Fluid Seepage
James,
I have never been lucky enough to remove some of the bolts from a diff
cover, put them back, and then not have it slowly leak. I've tried it
multiple times and I always end up going back a 2nd time to completely
remove the cover, scrape the old RTV off the sealing surfaces, and then
reseal it and attach the cover.
I am sure others have been able to do it, but I'm not lucky enough, I
guess. :)
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: James Rogers [mailto:skijunkie@c...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:42 PM
To: azvjc
Cc: Mike Hiett
Subject: [az_vjc] Differential Fluid Seepage
I just installed a Rock-It differential glider on the front diff (D30)
of my
TJ. Installation of such only requires the removal of 4 bolts from the
diff. While messing with the rear bracket midway through the install, I
noticed a slight seepage on the left side of the diff. It was not
enough to
drip, just enough to make the seam on the front cover on the left side
appear wet. Do I need to completely remove the diff cover and reseal
it, or
is this normal? Is it possible that a small amount of fluid just seeped
out
while I had the bolt removed? TIA.
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95695 From: Marty <robatari@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:52am
Subject: Need a set of 35s
Does anyone have a set of used 35-15-12.5 that they
want to sell.My 33s are starting to looking pretty
puny nowadays.You can email me
robatari@y... Marty
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95696 From: <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:03am
Subject: Re: 4x4 Expo
Aren't we a bit late then? Is this the 2004 dates or is it
December, which has also passed, so maybe January?
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "rynsdad01" <rynsdad01@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Jeepers,
>
> This years 4x4 Expo at the civic plaza is November 12-14...see
you
> there....David
95672 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:21am
Subject: Re: check this out!
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95673 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:24am
Subject: Re: Table Mesa Cleaup 2002?
I have some in high resolution digital format....let me know if you need them
and I can email them if you have cable or DSL.....it will take forever with
dial up.......also let me know the maximum your ISP will allow you to get in
file size.......MSN is 2 MB good for only one picture...maybe. Hotmail and
Yahoo and the other free ones are less than 1 MB....AOL is 16MB....I think Cox is
3MB from what someone told me
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95674 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:08pm
Subject: Re: BLM Permit
BLM permit for what ??
You don't need a permit to wheel on BLM land (on established trails).
Are you thinking about the State Trust Land permit that's needed to do
anything on State Trust Lands ?
Fred
Bob Menucci wrote:
>I'm in the process of researching what it takes to get a BLM Permit. What I'm looking at is an application for a "Cultural Use Resource Permit". Is this what we apply for?
>
>BobnJeep
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95675 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 4:45pm
Subject: RE: BLM Permit
What is the need for a permit? I don't believe there's anything called
a "Cultural Use Resource Permit". ............... Where are you
looking to do whatever you're going to do........... Phoenix, Tucson,
Havasu etc............. you must apply to the Field Office you're
within.
If it's an OHV Recreation event you need a Special Recreation
Permit...............
If it's a commercial endeavor such as running an OHV Touring Company or
a Hang Gliding business, or ATV Tours or Driving/Safety
Classes........... you need a Special Use Permit.
Fees are normally $80.00 deposit with the application and 3% of GROSS
receipts.
If you need more information please feel free to contact me off line or
call: 480.832.8132
Sandee
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From: Bob Menucci [mailto:bobnjeep@y...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 5:03 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BLM Permit
I'm in the process of researching what it takes to get a BLM Permit.
What I'm looking at is an application for a "Cultural Use Resource
Permit". Is this what we apply for?
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95676 From: george Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:04pm
Subject: (FS) '73 Wagoneer
Anybody interested in a '73 Wagoneer. 360 V8, TH400, QT w/lo range. Dana 44's front and rear from a '77 Wagoneer. Reupholstered front seat. New brakes. Body in good condition. New carpet from an '82 Cherokee. Tilt column. I have been working on the interior.
Looking for an XJ for my son.
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee
'73 Wagoneer
'93 Grand Cherokee
'00 Wrangler
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95677 From: jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 5:57pm
Subject: Re: (FS) '73 Wagoneer
This is too bad it doesn't have the original axles, they are great
swaps for CJ's (5x5.5 with front disc).
--James
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "george Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
wrote:
> Anybody interested in a '73 Wagoneer. 360 V8, TH400, QT w/lo
range. Dana 44's front and rear from a '77 Wagoneer. Reupholstered
front seat. New brakes. Body in good condition. New carpet from
an '82 Cherokee. Tilt column. I have been working on the interior.
>
> Looking for an XJ for my son.
>
> George Andrews
> '83 Cherokee
> '73 Wagoneer
> '93 Grand Cherokee
> '00 Wrangler
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95678 From: <Hydrosense@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 2:19pm
Subject: ROOF RACK SOLD!!!!
I sold tonight, I will be making a couple more so keep an eye on your emails.
I will also have some pics of them also. And a ZJ rack for Rick.
Rob B Y2K-XJ
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95679 From: <urbancrawler@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 7:34pm
Subject: The Automatic buy and sell AX 15 and new
I Think I am going with a 350 turbo so I will be selling my AX 15 and new clutch and asc.
95680 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:35pm
Subject: Precinct Meeting
Just got home from my first Precinct Committee meeting. First impression I
spent 2 hours sitting in a room of about 20 people that included my State
Senator Jim Weiers, and both my State Reps. I sat next to Linda Grey and her
Husband. Doug Quelland and I are getting together the Sat. after Christmas
to do him a favor.
I said nothing to anyone about my interests other then the Republican
party. I wanted to get a feel for everything first and let them get to know
me also. The job consists of getting people registered to vote, helping get
signatures for petitions. Around campaign time you will help out
(volunteer). Most help on the get out and vote drive on election day. They
have a lot of other stuff you can volunteer for.
I got more info tonight on how my State runs then I have ever had out of
the newspaper. All in all I think this is going to be a very interesting
experience.
I also found out all you have to do is one be a registered Republican or
Democrat and call your Party HQ ask where the Precinct meeting for your
district is and go to it. They can sign you up right there.
With the contact I got tonight with my elected officials we can make a
difference this way. We just need more OHV people to jump in an become
Precinct Committeeman. Unless you jump in and volunteer for a lot of extra
stuff the work load is easy.
Jim F.
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
95681 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:46pm
Subject: FW: [PFUSA] Washington Watch (Mike Hardiman)
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
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From: John Stewart [mailto:john@m...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 9:28 PM
To: Recipient List Suppressed :
Subject: Fwd: [PFUSA] Washington Watch (Mike Hardiman)
Moderator's Note;
The below is a list of bills of interest to everyone concerned about
property rights and access issues.
**************************
http://www.eco.freedom.org/el/20031202/hardiman.shtml
Washington Watch
December 15, 2003
Bills we are watching
GOOD BILLS:
Good Bills - House:
HR 7 (Blunt, R-MO) Faith Based Initiative. HR 7 is a GOOD BILL, which has no
provisions for Tax Favoritism for Land Trusts. Congressman Blunt has
inserted NO special tax loopholes, NO Tax Favoritism for mulitbillion dollar
corporations like The Nature Conservancy (TNC). TNC calls itself a
"non-profit" but profited over $700 million last year alone from grant money
from taxpayers, selling land to government agencies paid by taxpayers, and
insider trading deals underwritten by tax breaks financed by taxpayers.
Congressman Blunt needs to know that he has backing from conservatives
across the country in order to keep this special interest provision - Land
Trust Tax Favoritism - out of the legislation, and carry the battle all the
way to the end. Please address faxes and emails to his staff aide, Ms. April
Ponnuru.
Majority Whip Roy Blunt
Capitol Building, H-326
Washington, DC 20515
Phn 202-225-0197
Fax 202-226-1115
Blunt@m...
Staff person working on this issue: april.ponnuru@m...
ALSO - OUR HERO on this issue is Congressman Wally Herger (R-CA), who has
stood up to the powerful Land Trusts and defeated their efforts to carve
themselves out a billion dollar tax break. THANK Herger by contacting his
staff person Derek Harley: derek.harley@m... TELL Herger to keep
up the great work! Herger is a senior member of the powerful tax-writing
committee, the Ways and Means Committee.
ALSO - Contact your own member of the House of Representatives, no matter
who it is, in support of HR 7 - NO Land Trust Tax Favoritism. This issue has
mixed up the usual "conservatives" and "liberals" into an unpredictable mix,
so ANY House member is fair game to possibly side with us and Roy Blunt in
support of private property rights.
*** IMPORTANT
Tell Congressman Blunt THANK YOU for no more special preferences for
land trusts. S. 476 (see below) is the Faith Based Intitiative's BAD BILL -
it includes a special loophole to discount 25% off of capital gains taxes
for a seller of land - but only if land is sold to a land trust or
government agency! This places churches, private schools and private
property owners at a comparative disadvantage when attempting to purchase
land. This allows the land trust to cut its offering price by nearly the
amount of the tax cut, so effectively the only beneficiary is the land
trust.
H.R.8 (Dunn, R-WA) Permanent repeal of the estate tax, also known as the
Death Tax. The Death Tax is a major factor in breaking up family businesses.
The Nature Conservancy and the other multibillion dollar Land Trusts just
love the Death Tax, because it allows them to hover like buzzards over
family ranches and farms. They dangle conservation easement tax breaks in
front of families when they have their backs against the wall financially,
due to owing the Death Tax because of a death in the family. Think twice,
and look very carefully at the fine print before making a land trust a
co-owner of your land!
THIS BILL has just been approved by the House of Representatives - the
Senate will consider it now.
*** IMPORTANT PRIORITY
Please contact your Senator in SUPPORT of HR 8!
HR 67 (Flake, R-AZ) Disaster Area Exemption Act. Temporarily exempts
federally declared disaster areas from the endless environmental regulations
and appeals which hold up aid for families and cleanup.
HR 353 (Duncan, R - TN) Dispose of all Bureau of Land Management lands
recommended for sale back to private property by the Department of the
Interior.
HR 460 (Hayworth, R-AZ) Study the prevention of wildfires. Senate companion
is S 32.
HR 701 (Paul, R-TX) Will restore to the original owners certain lands that
were seized by the federal government in 1940 for military use, and not
returned even though they have not been used by the feds for many years.
NOTE: You may recall that HR 701 was, in the previous two congresses,
previously the bill number of the "CARA" multi-billion dollar land grab
bill. Now in the 108th Congress, thanks to Ron Paul, it stands for citizens
getting their land back!
HR 849 (Shadegg R-AZ) To authorize the Regional Foresters to exempt
tree-thinning projects, which are necessary to prevent the occurrence of
wildfire likely to cause extreme harm to the forest ecosystem, from laws
that give rise to legal causes of action that delay or prevent such
projects.
HR 1005 (McInnis, R-CO and Gibbons, R-NV) PILT and Refuge Revenue Sharing
Permanent Funding Act. Will fully compensate counties for losses in tax
revenue due to federal government ownership of land (the federal government
does not pay taxes to localities).
HR 1014 (Radanovich R-CA) Requires Federal land managers to communicate and
cooperate with designated gateway communities, to improve these small
communities' ability to participate in Federal land management planning
conducted by the Forest Service and agencies of the Department of the
Interior.
H.R. 1153 (Otter, R-ID) Limits to ten years the amount of time that
Wilderness Study Areas can be studied. If nothing is done in ten years, then
the land reverts back to previous levels of multiple use. This would close
one of the loopholes that is most abused by the leftwing enviros. Right now,
there is NO TIME LIMIT to how long an area can be "studied" for possible
wilderness designation!
HR 1517 (Graves R-MO) Amends the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF) to
limit the use of funds available for maintenance purposes, and prohibits
land acquisition. This is an excellent bill that would use all LWCF funds
for upkeep and improvement of campgrounds, bathrooms, trails, roads,
headquarters and interpretive centers. It would prohibit use of the funds
for land acquisition, because federal and state governments already own
nearly 40% of the land in the United States.
HR 1629 (Rehberg, R-MT) Removes private land from the boundaries of the
Missouri Breaks National Monument, which was one of the Midnite Land Grabs
in the closing days of the Clinton Administration.
HR 1662 (Walden, R-OR) Endangered Species Act revisions. Will add a greater
role for the states and require more thorough biological evidence of a
species being endangered before it can be listed as endangered. Companion
bill to S 369.
*** IMPORTANT PRIORITY
This bill needs more cosponsors! Contact your House of
Representatives member and ask them to COSPONSOR HR 1517!
HR 1831 (Renzi, R-AZ) Legislation to keep open Glen Canyon Recreation Area
and Lake Powell for use by personal watercraft.
HR 1904 (Pombo, R-CA, McInnis R-CO) Healthy Forest Initiative. This will
eliminate frivolous lawsuits that needlessly delay timber harvest and
provide grant money to combat insect infestations.
HR 1965 (Gibbons, R-NV) Proposes to amend the Endangered Species Act to
limit its application on military land or private land and to provide
incentives for voluntary habitat maintenance.
HR 2386 (Simpson, R-ID) Requires congressional approval of any national
monuments over 50,000 acres. This a long-needed response to the Clinton
midnite monument land grabs.
HR 2715 (Radanovich, R-CA) A bill to open up Yosemite National Park to more
camping and public access, and end the Sierra Club's special favored status
within the Park.
Good Bills - Senate:
S 32 (Kyl, R-AZ) Study the prevention of wildfires. House companion is HR
460.
S 96, S 169 (both Kyl, R-AZ) The bills differ slightly, but both propose
permanent repeal of the estate tax, also known as the Death Tax. House
companion bills are HR 51, HR 57. Death should NOT be a taxable event!
S 369 (Thomas, R-WY) Endangered Species Act revisions. Will add a greater
role for the states and require more thorough biological evidence of a
species being endangered before it can be claimed as endangered. Cosponsors
so far, include Sen. Hagel (R-NE) and Sen. Craig (R-ID).
S. 372 (Thomas, R-WY) Requires federal agencies to grant state and local
governments "cooperating agency" status in the preparation of Environmental
Impact Statements or other environmental analysis.
S 511 (Binghaman, D-NM) and Ensign, R-NV) Full payment of PILT funds.
Companion bill to HR 1005.
BAD BILLS:
Bad Bills - House:
HR 37 (Boehlert R-NY) Elevate the Environmental Protection Agency to Cabinet
status. This bill rewards bad behavior! It elevates the EPA when the EPA
dedicates far more effort to protecting its power than protecting the
environment.
HR 119 (Hefley, R-CO) The Invasive Species Act. If you think the Endangered
Species Act is a dangerous attack on private property rights, wait till you
see this one! There is a problem with some harmful plants and animals in
many areas of the United States. The federal government already has the
authority to deal with them, when there is enough funding. However, HR 119
proposes a massive new Invasive Species bureaucracy that will be able to
regulate everything from grass on your front lawn to putting greens on golf
courses, to the baby's breath flowers in prom corsages and wedding
arrangements! And there are NO protections for private property rights.
HR 266 (Ehlers, R-MI) National Invasive Species Council Act. Creates an
entirely new federal bureaucracy and establishes an Invasive Species
Council. Private citizens are prohibited from being members of the council -
only federal employees are permitted. "Invasive species" are not native to
an area - like most human beings, for example. Crazy, but true - watch out
for this one!
HR 524 (Frelinghuysen, R-NJ) "Crossroads of the Revolution" National
Heritage Area - Land Grab extending across much of central and northern New
Jersey.
HR 652 (Andrews D-NJ) To make the Wildlands Project into official government
policy - the politically correct name is National Forest Ecosystem
Protection Program. Ruin communities in small towns and rural areas through
federal land use regulation.
HR 1051 (Bereuter R-NE) Would add land acquisition authority to nine more
trails in the National Trails system. This would reward the federal
government's bad behavior in seizing property from innocent people and
paying them only a few cents per dollar of value.
HR 1130 (Holt, D-NJ) Ban snowmobiles in Yellowstone National Park. This may
sound crazy, but don't laugh - it has 134 cosponsors, mostly clueless
northeastern leftists, like Holt.
HR 1964 (Frelinghuysen, R-NJ) Highlands Stewardship Area Act. Two million
acre combined zoning control and land acquisition extending over four states
- Connecticut, New York, New Jersey and Pennsylvania.
HR 2036 (Isakson, R-GA) Open Space Preservation and Conservation Act. This
would permit $25 BILLION DOLLARS to be used for permanent conservation
easements, giving the Nature Conservancy and other Land Trusts and
government agencies co-ownership in MILLIONS of acres of land. The solution
to keeping agricultural and other rural land in family hands is to repeal
the inheritance tax - instead, this bill would hand over BILLIONS to
powerful land trusts and government agencies to expand their power!
HR 2416 (McGovern, D-MA) Companion bill is S.546, an anti-rockhounding bill,
titled the Paleontological Resources Preservation Act. Places severe
penalties on recreational rockhounding, would permit only "experts" to
disturb public land surfaces.
This is a bill promoted by the cultural and scientific elitists who want the
public lands all for themselves. Retirees and families will be unable to
search for rocks and fossils and sell and exchange them at fairs and rock
shows. Allows for seizure of private vehicles, camping equipment and
anything else the government wants to grab for even minor violations. This
bill assumes that Big Brother Government has all the answers, even though
some of the greatest discoveries of dinosaurs and pre-recorded history has
been done by private individuals.
HR 2964 (Portman, R-OH and Matsui, D-CA) Land Trust Tax Favoritism. Amends
the Internal Revenue Code to provide a tax incentive for land sales for
conservation purposes. This is a gigantic tax break for the Nature
Conservancy and other massive Land Trusts. Sellers of land or water rights
get a tax break of 50% of the capital gain - but ONLY if they sell to a land
trust or a government agency! This will actually do NOTHING to help the
seller of land, because land trusts will just lower their offering price for
property, since they will have such a big advantage in the bidding versus
private parties. This is the same Tax Favoritism proposed for the Faith
Based Initiative (see S 476).
HR 3247 (Tancredo, R-CO) Jacks up penalties for minor violations of often
arbitrarily applied laws on public lands. Hands over too much discretionary
power to public lands enforcement agents.
HR 3283 (Regula, R-OH) Demands a $100 annual fee from every citizen who
wants to set foot on any public lands. Penalties include up to 6 months in
jail. But actually, don't worry, it will all be OK, because the $100
permission slip is called the America the Beautiful Pass.
HR 3324 (Shays, R-CT) Attacks public lands grazing, attempts to force
ranchers off their allotments. At one point, the bill states that it is
"socially just" to shut down public lands grazing.
Bad Bills - Senate:
S. 212 (Bingaman, D-NM) "Study" the Ogallala Aquifer, which is located in
the central United States from South Dakota to Texas. This "study" will most
likely lead to "guidelines" and then federal controls over private land over
tens of millions of acres in the central United States.
S. 230 (Corzine D-NJ) same as HR 524, Heritage Area Land Grab.
S. 324 (Levin D-MI) National Trail Land Acquisition Authority. Companion
land grab legislation to HR 1051.
S. 476 (Grassley, R-IA) is the Faith Based Intitiative's BAD BILL - it
includes a special loophole to discount 25% off of capital gains taxes for a
seller of land - but only if land is sold to a land trust or government
agency! This places churches, private schools and private property owners at
a comparative disadvantage when attempting to purchase land. This allows the
land trust to cut its offering price by nearly the amount of the tax cut, so
effectively the only beneficiary is the land trust. The GOOD BILL is HR 7.
S. 525 (Levin, D-MI) Aquatic Invasive Species Act. Massive land grab with a
price tag of $170 million per year. This CLAIMS to be legislation to keep
foreign species out of American waters by regulating oceangoing ships.
HOWEVER, it ALSO proposes to regulate ALL FRESH WATER in the entire United
States, whether or not it is deep or wide enough for a boat or ship! It also
proposes criminal penalties for violations of any regulations resulting from
the bill - before the regulations are even drawn up!!! This is one of
several disasters in the making moving under the cover of invasive species.
S. 536 (DeWine, R-OH) Creates a National Invasive Species Council. Companion
bill to HR 266. DeWine has a lengthy record of attacking private property
rights, including attempting to force farmers in the proposed Darby Refuge
area out of their homes. DeWine was also a leading supporter of the massive,
unprecedented CARA Land Grab.
S 546 (Akaka, D-HI) Anti-rockhounding bill titled the Paleontological
Resources Preservation Act. Places severe penalties on recreational
rockhounding, would permit only "experts" to disturb public land surfaces.
Allows for seizure of private vehicles, camping equipment and anything else
the government wants to grab for even minor violations. This bill assumes
that Big Brother Government has all the answers, even though some of the
greatest discoveries of dinosaurs and pre-recorded history has been done by
private individuals.
S 635 (Hatch, R-UT) Massive expansion of federal power called the Pioneer
National Historic Trails Studies Act. Requires studies of SIXTY-FOUR trails
in the central and western United States to determine if the federal
government should acquire land and place viewshed restrictions on
surrounding private property. And, just in case the bill misses any land
that the feds want to grab, there is an additional catchall provision that
says "other routes that the Interior Secretary considers appropriate" in
addition to the sixty four routes already listed.
S. 651 (Allard R-CO) National Trails Land Acquisition Act. Expands the
federal government's power to seize property along arbitrarily drawn
"trails." Also has no restrictions against federal agencies claiming
authority over adjacent private property as "buffer zones" and claiming
"viewshed restrictions" over everything that can be seen from a trail!
S. 916 (Bennett, R-UT) National Mormon Pioneer Heritage Area. Federal zoning
proposal for Highway 89, where much of Utah's remaining private land is
located. An incredibly stupid bill from a Senator who is usually supportive
of private property rights.
S. 999 (Corzine, D-NJ) Companion bill to HR 1964, two million acre, four
state land grab.
S. 1515 (Boxer, D-CA) Massive new multimillion acre Wilderness proposal for
California.
Editor's note: Mike Hardiman was Policy Director for Congressman, now
Resources Committee Chairman, Richard Pombo from 1993 to 1999. He is
President of Hardiman Consulting, a lobbying and public relations firm based
in Washington, DC. He is one of the most knowledgeable and effective
lobbyists in Washington on property rights and resource use issues. He can
be reached at hardimanmike@a....
* * * * * * *
"The States can best govern our home concerns and the general government our
foreign ones. I wish, therefore...never to see all offices transferred to
Washington, where, further withdrawn from the eyes of the people, they may
more secretly be bought and sold at market." --Thomas Jefferson
--
John Stewart
Director, Environmental Affairs
United Four Wheel Drive Associations, http://www.ufwda.org
Natural Resource Consultant
California Association of 4 Wheel Drive Clubs, http://www.ca4wdc.com
Recreation Access and Conservation Editor, http://www.4x4wire.com
Moderator, MUIRNet - Multiple Use Information Resource Network
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95682 From: <urbancrawler@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 8:52pm
Subject: New Mods.....AND SELLING REBUILT AX 15 &
> IAM ALSO DOING MODS DIFERENT 4 LINK, COMPRESSOR AND TANKS AND YES MAYBE automatic 350 TURBO AND OTHER GOODIES i WILL KEEP IN AREA 58 HMMMMMMMM PROBLEY DOWN AWHILE
> From: Dzrtoffroad@a...
> Date: 2003/12/12 Fri PM 08:39:01 EST
> To: urbancrawler@c...
> Subject: Re: [AZundertakers] Re: Friday night Marathon campers.....
>
> In a message dated 12/12/03 6:33:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> urbancrawler@c... writes:
>
>
> > There can only be one FLIPPER and he live in TUCSON I won,t mention his
> > name oh by the way Steve the Flipper when are we going to do woodys again my
> > flipper picture is gitting kind of faded LOL
> >
>
> next weekend i guess............i'm down this weekend, waiting for parts. i
> guess i could wheel lop-sided or rob a leaf or two out of one pack and put in
> another but i'll wait :)
>
> i was almost gonna do an SOA but decided to just buy one replacement 4.5" SUA
> spring and call it good for now. the springs have sagged over 3 yrears and
> the pass side is 2.5" lower.....so have to get a new pack for the othjer side.
> now the rear will be lower than the front by how much i am not sure yet. i
> might then throw in an extra leaf to the rears. and then hope to get it out of
> the garage :)
>
> letting air out of tires will work.
>
>
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95683 From: rynsdad01 <rynsdad01@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:34pm
Subject: 4x4 Expo
Hello fellow Jeepers,
This years 4x4 Expo at the civic plaza is November 12-14...see you
there....David
95684 From: James Rogers <skijunkie@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 9:42pm
Subject: Differential Fluid Seepage
I just installed a Rock-It differential glider on the front diff (D30) of my
TJ. Installation of such only requires the removal of 4 bolts from the
diff. While messing with the rear bracket midway through the install, I
noticed a slight seepage on the left side of the diff. It was not enough to
drip, just enough to make the seam on the front cover on the left side
appear wet. Do I need to completely remove the diff cover and reseal it, or
is this normal? Is it possible that a small amount of fluid just seeped out
while I had the bolt removed? TIA.
95685 From: frankgreentj2000 <frankgreentj2000@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:00pm
Subject: Re: 4x4 Expo
I think that Nov. has already passed.
Frank B
98TJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "rynsdad01" <rynsdad01@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Jeepers,
>
> This years 4x4 Expo at the civic plaza is November 12-14...see
you
> there....David
95686 From: olneyjeeps <olneyjeeps@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:01pm
Subject: Re: (FS) '73 Wagoneer
To the best of my knowlege (I've owned 2 '73's, a
72,65,77,77,78,73,85, selling an 88 (all wagoneers)) although the
pre '75's did have 55x5.5 44's, most (I believe all '73's) were
closed knuckle drum brake. Conversion of a newer 6x5.5 front w/disc
is very easy/cheap with stock Jeep and early Ford (hubs) parts though.
I also have a 44 front w/disc (driver side diff) for sale: $250
complete
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> This is too bad it doesn't have the original axles, they are great
> swaps for CJ's (5x5.5 with front disc).
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "george Andrews" <gandre01@m...>
> wrote:
> > Anybody interested in a '73 Wagoneer. 360 V8, TH400, QT w/lo
> range. Dana 44's front and rear from a '77 Wagoneer. Reupholstered
> front seat. New brakes. Body in good condition. New carpet from
> an '82 Cherokee. Tilt column. I have been working on the interior.
> >
> > Looking for an XJ for my son.
> >
> > George Andrews
> > '83 Cherokee
> > '73 Wagoneer
> > '93 Grand Cherokee
> > '00 Wrangler
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95687 From: Jeep <jeep@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:40pm
Subject: BFG MUD T/A's
Anyone know of a good place to get a set of 32/11.50's for a good price? A long time ago, Discount used to give club members a price break on tires. I havent bought any in a while and wondered if anyone knows of a good place to go here in Tucson?
thanks,
Scott
1991 XJ
95688 From: Jeep <jeep@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 10:51pm
Subject:
Hey there,
I am from Tucson, I used to be actively involved in 4x4Trail riding and just recently bought another Jeep. In Fact I am getting my lift installed this week and will be ready to take it out this coming weekend. Are you looking for locals to go riding with?
Give me a hollar.....
Scott@a...
1991 XJ 4.0 litre
4.5" Rubicon Express Super Flex Lift
SYE and 32" Mud TA's
-----Original Message-----
From: bbmandd2000 [mailto:bbmandd2000@y...]
Sent: Sat 12/13/2003 7:55 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc:
Subject: [az_vjc] Tucson
any good spots to go outside of tucson?
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95689 From: Jeep <jeep@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 15, 2003 11:37pm
Subject: Sedona and Broken Arrow this coming weekend
HI all,
I am planning to run the Broken Arrow trail this weekend and perhaps some other trails in the Sedona area. I have to be up there for a staff retreat and thought I would just poke around and enjoy the time I have. If there is anyone who would like to join me on the trail, drop me a note and let me know. I would be happy to setup an organized run time and meeting place for anyone who might be interested.
Happy trails!
Scott
1991 XJ
Tucson
95690 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 0:43am
Subject: [TR] FR-42 - Tuesday, December 16, 2003
Hello All,Tom Schenk is leading a FR-42 trail run on Tuesday, December 16, 2003.<br><br>When: Around noon? Call me if anyone wants to meet up 623-266-7226 or 928-225-1379
Where: Bartlet Lake Paystation
Rating: 3.0+
Length: ???
CB Channel: 4
We will drive off of the road and over some rocks and stuff.
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1123
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
95691 From: Tom Schenk <tomschenk1@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 0:46am
Subject: FR-42 trip
Hey,
I'm a goin to do FR-42 today the 16th(tuesday) around noon. If any
other of you unemployed *******s want to screw off today I'll be
there around noonish. Call if you want...623-266-7226 or cell 928-
225-1379. Word
Tom
95692 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 4:32am
Subject: RE: Mean Green starters?
Roger,
As we discussed I think the MG would be a nice addition to your Jeep. The
strength and torq it provides can get you out of some hairy situations.
The question is do you need it? Does your "great" driving skill ;) warrant
the need for such a starter?
In my case, as most that have wheeled with me know, my ;( driving skill
requires me to use my starter to get over some obsticles. I use my starter
or you could say I pretty much abuse it. I have replaced the autozone
starter once. After about a 1.5 years it gave up the ghost. Fortunatly it
was a slow death like the one you are experiencing.
Truth be told it is actually the Jeep's gearing that requires me to use the
starter at times, not my skill. Or so I like to think. :o
OH BTW 'bout forgot. I copied Frank as I think he is the only one I know
that abuses err I mean uses a MG starter.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:23 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Mean Green starters?
I need to replace my starter. I don't think I want to exercise the
"lifetime warranty" each year with an AutoZone/Checker type starter. So I'm
thinking about the Mean Green starter. Does anyone have experience with
them and can you convince me they're worth their high cost? If not, I may
give Napa a shot.
Thanks,
Roger
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95693 From: <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 6:38am
Subject: Re: Differential Fluid Seepage
Only way to really tell is clean it up real good and check the next
day. Everytime I hit my rear diff on a rock it seams to leak. So I
try not to hit any rocks :o) I dont know how many times I've resealed
my rear diff. The front diff doesnt have that prob. Jeff CamoXJ--- In
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Rogers" <skijunkie@c...> wrote:
> I just installed a Rock-It differential glider on the front diff
(D30) of my
> TJ. Installation of such only requires the removal of 4 bolts from
the
> diff. While messing with the rear bracket midway through the
install, I
> noticed a slight seepage on the left side of the diff. It was not
enough to
> drip, just enough to make the seam on the front cover on the left
side
> appear wet. Do I need to completely remove the diff cover and
reseal it, or
> is this normal? Is it possible that a small amount of fluid just
seeped out
> while I had the bolt removed? TIA.
95694 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:17am
Subject: RE: Differential Fluid Seepage
James,
I have never been lucky enough to remove some of the bolts from a diff
cover, put them back, and then not have it slowly leak. I've tried it
multiple times and I always end up going back a 2nd time to completely
remove the cover, scrape the old RTV off the sealing surfaces, and then
reseal it and attach the cover.
I am sure others have been able to do it, but I'm not lucky enough, I
guess. :)
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: James Rogers [mailto:skijunkie@c...]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 10:42 PM
To: azvjc
Cc: Mike Hiett
Subject: [az_vjc] Differential Fluid Seepage
I just installed a Rock-It differential glider on the front diff (D30)
of my
TJ. Installation of such only requires the removal of 4 bolts from the
diff. While messing with the rear bracket midway through the install, I
noticed a slight seepage on the left side of the diff. It was not
enough to
drip, just enough to make the seam on the front cover on the left side
appear wet. Do I need to completely remove the diff cover and reseal
it, or
is this normal? Is it possible that a small amount of fluid just seeped
out
while I had the bolt removed? TIA.
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95695 From: Marty <robatari@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 7:52am
Subject: Need a set of 35s
Does anyone have a set of used 35-15-12.5 that they
want to sell.My 33s are starting to looking pretty
puny nowadays.You can email me
robatari@y... Marty
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95696 From: <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Dec 16, 2003 8:03am
Subject: Re: 4x4 Expo
Aren't we a bit late then? Is this the 2004 dates or is it
December, which has also passed, so maybe January?
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "rynsdad01" <rynsdad01@y...> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Jeepers,
>
> This years 4x4 Expo at the civic plaza is November 12-14...see
you
> there....David