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95372 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 9:17am
Subject: Re: December 20th Sat 3.5-4.0 run???????
Actually I meant Upper Terminator. I ran it with 30's and no lockers.
Hit the diff a few times but other than that I had no problem. Jeff
CamoXJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Maybe you mean Lower Raw Deal? That's in the 3.5 range.
> I would recommend against running Lower Terminator with
> 30's and no locker or lift.
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > Rob, not to rag on your XJ LOL but I think you want to keep it to
a
> > 3.5 max. 4.0 would tear the hell out of your XJ. I need to get
out
> > also but deer hunting starts the 12th and I am going to Benson to
> > hunt (hopefully I'll get one the first weekend). Been itching for
a
> > good 3.5 run. Lower Terminator? Thats always a good one but need
> > someone that knows the way and can lead. Been there once and had
a
> > blast, very challenging. I've got pics you can check out Rob if
you
> > want. Post it up and see if you can get someone to lead. I did it
> > with 30's, no locker and I think no lift or 3" lift. You might
want
> > to shave that rear diff because I got hung up a few times on
mine.
> > Anywho, I'll see if i can make it, all depends on the deer :o)
Jeff
> > CamoXJ --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Hydrosense@a... wrote:
> > > Any runs then? ,if not Lets go somewhere someone anyone
> anywhere..
> > this is
> > > like the only day this month that I am clear to go, need a
> *****in
> > minimum of a
> > > 3.0-4.0 rating. the more the marier wife has a
friendcoming
> > over that
> > > day so I will leave early and come home late LOL
> > > Lets gooooooooooooo Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ
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95373 From: frank badazxj <BadAZXJ@h...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 9:24am
Subject: 47 willys for sale for $2900 bucks
I have a friend selling a jeep and I told him I would post this up for
him....
"Thought I would tell you, and see if anyone you know is interested in
buying a hunting jeep.
Street legal and licenced. Original Ford Engine (Go Devil) and Tran less
than 10,000 miles. Electric fuel pump, klaxton horn, metal hard top, heater
& fan, tow bar with tow lights. $2900.00"
picture attached.
if interested , you can reach him @ Roger D. Stump Law Office of Charles
McTheny
2700 N. 3rd Street Suite 2005 Phoenix, AZ 85004 602-200-6855
Thanks,
Frank
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95374 From: Frank BadAZXJ <BadAZXJ@h...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 9:36am
Subject: Re: BBQ
Had a great time as well. Thanks John for hosting this...The yearly
bbq is as much a part of this group as the annual run. Most people
probably dont realize what goes into setting something like this up,
its a lot of work and we appreaciate it John!
Thanks again,
Frank
groups.msn.com/badazxj
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> Well my family and I had a blast! Another great party John,you
sure
> know how to throw them :)
> Wanted to tell everyone thank you and that your all like a family
> too me, Thank you! Except Jim who posted the ramp scores...in my
> defence I was in my truck not my jeep...but I promise too do better
> next year in my Jeep :)
> Thanks again everyone, see ya soon
> Sharky
95375 From: Mookie <touringmookie@k...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 11:13am
Subject: Re: jeep stereo
Also make sure you are not sending full signal to the fronts and
subs. You should have a crossover. If there isn't one built onto the
amp.
mookie
95376 From: cj7pilot2004 <motorbehr@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 11:48am
Subject: Windshield frame
Can anyone give me a heads-up on where to find a new or used
windowframe
for a 79 CJ7?? Thanks.
95377 From: candace <bequietorillstop@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 11:50am
Subject: Re: jeep stereo
thanks everyone for the advice!
candace <bequietorillstop@y...> wrote:hi all
i have a 1996 jeep grand cherokee orvis edition with the infinity gold stereo system. i've located an amp under the back seat, driver's side. does anyone know if i can hook up my sub to it, or do i need a convertor and / or after-market amp?
much thanks,
c
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95378 From: Simon <simon@4...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 0:01pm
Subject: Re: Windshield frame
I/We have new bare frames in stock $143.00
Hope this helps
Simon at 4 Wheelers Supply
602 273 7195
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From: "cj7pilot2004" <motorbehr@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:48 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Windshield frame
> Can anyone give me a heads-up on where to find a new or used
> windowframe
> for a 79 CJ7?? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
95379 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 0:34pm
Subject: Re: Windshield frame
4wd.com lists them at $140 but you'd have to pay shipping on top of
that, so Simon's deal sounds pretty good.
(4)Steel Windshield Frame, CJ, 1976-86
Product Number: 5453941
Price: $139.94
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Simon" <simon@4...> wrote:
> I/We have new bare frames in stock $143.00
> Hope this helps
> Simon at 4 Wheelers Supply
> 602 273 7195
>
>
> > Can anyone give me a heads-up on where to find a new or used
> > windowframe
> > for a 79 CJ7?? Thanks.
95380 From: <NVRSTUKXJ@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 0:47pm
Subject: Re: Windshield frame
probably on a 79 cj7.....
sorry...couldn't resist.... :-)
95381 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 0:58pm
Subject: Another classic Jeep
Somebody's pride and joy..
http://community.webshots.com/photo/103856526/103856899FipmEA
95382 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 1:13pm
Subject: Re: Another classic Jeep
gack.
--- Linda <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Somebody's pride and joy..
>
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/103856526/103856899FipmEA
>
>
>
>
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95383 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 2:01pm
Subject: Trip Report - Toys For Tots Upper Woodpecker
First off...BIG thanks and kudos to Kat and Jeff for getting this run
organized. Fun run, good weather, great cause...what else can you ask
for?
This was supposed to be the Jackhandle trip, but we made an executive
group decision to hit Upper Wood instead. Less dirt road to travel,
more challenging for those running, and yet still doable for mildly
built Jeeps.
So 7 of us headed out - Me in my old YJ, Eric (CJ7), Rick (Urban
Crawler YJ), Pat (TJ Rubicon), Gare (TJ), Brad (TJ) and Mike (XJ). I
think Rick and I were the only ones who had run the trail before, so
everyone else was excited to try something new.
Brad and Mike were driving the least built rigs of the group...if you
can call them that. Brad's TJ is lifted and on 33's, but open f/r. And
Mike's XJ is running about 5" lift and a rear locker, but he's running
those space saver spares that you find in the trunk of new cars!
Actually, they are 30's, but still...
They both did great on the trail with relatively little spotting.
Brad's making future plans for TJ upgrades and Mike was grinning the
entire trip...especially after each obstacle set!
Pat and Gare were both driving very nicely built TJ's, but were new to
the trail. Gare's atlas was hiccupping a bit in the beginning, but he
did get it to engage 4-lo and all was well after that. I think Pat ran
tailgunner most of the day...thanks! They both drove really well, so
nothing to worry about back there.
Eric was behind me and no trouble with anything. And Rick is barely
worth mentioning! Haha. That YJ creation of his is pretty sweet.
Three of us ran Firehole (me, Eric and Rick) without any troubles. I
think my Dad, who was passenger in my Jeep, thought I was kidding when I
pointed to the Firehole and said "all we gotta do is stradle that gap
there"!
We caught up to another group who had a YJ with a busted D30 u-joint
just a little past the Firehole. No way to go around, so we had to wait
til the fix was complete. No troubles after that. We stopped for lunch
around 12:30 - 1:00 at the top of the dirt road (near the Mine), and
then headed out. Eric and Mike ran out thru Box Canyon and the rest of
us hot-dogged back to the starting point. Thanks again to Pat for
letting me mooch off of his on board air before hitting the pavement
home.
I had a great time and would run with any of you again. Hope you think
the same!
Brad should be posting a link to the pics he took soon.
Later,
Tom
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95384 From: Scott Tate <scott@f...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 2:20pm
Subject: Radiator/"Street" Tires for sale
Guys,
I have a few things for sale that might be useful to someone. I
have an aftermarket radiator that I used in my 90 YJ that was purchased
out of 4 wheel drive hardware. It was the 4wd hardware v8 conversion
radiator. It's perfect if you are doing a v8 swap or just need a bit
more cooling power! The inflow side is on the top driver's side while
the return is below on the passenger side. I'd probably get rid of that
for $50.
Also, I have a used set of Michelin XC LT4 225 70 R16's. They are
really expensive tires (great for the street) and probably have about
20,000 miles of tread left on them (so says NTB Tire). I'd sell the
four of those for 100 dollars. Let me know if anyone is interested.
I'm in Gilbert.
Later.
Scott Tate
95385 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:08pm
Subject: [Tech] 03 TJ Wrangler 2.5 - Do I NEED aux offroad lighting?
If anyone has a alternate way to go for much more light , let me know. Can I just change my head lights from factory to a better, brighter, light? Popular thing is to put KC's or something on, but I think there might be just a simple head lamp change needed. If you have knowledge of this issue, please enlighten me. (no pun intended..well yes ,there was) Chuck G.
chuck giragosian
95386 From: oneblackjeep <1blackjeep@g...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:42pm
Subject: Re: New Wrangler wheelbase ???
Here is an article about the new Wrangler and the new Liberty out of
the Toledo Blade. I think this is the plant where most of the TJ's
are built. Found this on the NMVJC site.
Jack
'05 'stretch' Wrangler to sell in April
Official word from Chrysler part of multivehicle unveiling
By JULIE M. McKINNON
BLADE BUSINESS WRITER
DETROIT - DaimlerChrysler AG yesterday finally acknowledged a Toledo-
focused project in the works for at least 18 months: The 2005 Jeep
Wrangler Unlimited, a "stretch" version of the sport-utility vehicle.
The Wrangler Unlimited, to be priced between a $19,335 X and $25,085
Rubicon, will be available in full force in April, months before
dealerships originally had expected. No jobs are expected to be added
at Toledo Jeep Assembly to build the Unlimited, which The Blade
reported more than a year ago was in the works.
The Unlimited has a wheelbase 10 inches longer than the 93.4 inches
on other Wranglers and an overall length that is 15 inches greater,
allowing 2 extra inches in the second-row seat as well as more cargo
room, said Joe Eberhardt, Chrysler's executive vice president of
sales, marketing, and service.
"You actually can take something with you," he told reporters and
auto analysts yesterday in downtown Detroit at an unveiling of eight
vehicles Chrysler will start selling next year.
One of those vehicles was a new Renegade version of the Toledo-made
2005 Jeep Liberty, which will be refreshed. Plus, the automaker noted
that a 2.8-liter clean diesel version of the compact SUV will be
widely available in November, a previously announced move that will
supply buyers with 25 to 30 percent better fuel efficiency than
achieved by the Liberty's V-6 version.
Chrysler also showed video of two concept Jeeps to be shown at
Detroit's North American International Auto Show in January,
including the small Treo fuel-cell concept that recently made its
debut in Tokyo.
The Jeep Rescue - an emergency and military vehicle that looks like
an enlarged Wrangler with 37-inch tires, a 123-inch wheelbase, and
other features - will be new, as will the Dodge Sling Shot sports-car
concept.
The automaker prohibited photographs of the vehicles it unveiled
yesterday at Cobo Hall, including the Detroit-made 2005 Jeep Grand
Cherokee. Officials also declined to talk about production and sales
plans, such as how many Unlimited models will be made at Toledo Jeep
and whether new or existing Wrangler customers are expected to buy
them.
Longtime Jeep salesman Ron Szegedi said he anticipates the Unlimited
will attract different buyers to the Toledo-born brand, such as those
who don't want an SUV as big as the Liberty yet need more cargo room
than currently available in a Wrangler.
"That kind of buyer is what I expect we're going to get," the
salesman at Perrysburg's Ed Schmidt Auto Group said when contacted
yesterday.
Union officials at Toledo Jeep have been told about half of the
Unlimited's buyers will be new to the Wrangler line and an estimated
20,000 to 25,000 of the models will be made annually, said Nick
Vuich, Jeep unit chairman for United Auto Workers Local 12.
"We just hope it does well," Mr. Vuich said when contacted yesterday.
The Wrangler Unlimited will be 30 percent quieter on road and better
at crawling over rocks off road than other Wranglers, said Jeff Bell,
vice president of Jeep. "In a phrase, it's more Wrangler, " he added.
The Unlimited, which has a towing capacity of 3,500 pounds, will be
shown at the Detroit auto show with both hard and soft tops. Mr. Bell
said the Wrangler Sahara model will be phased out in 2004.
Although all Libertys will be refreshed for the 2005 model year, the
Renegade version will have some unique features beyond a light bar
and side fenders that have a bolted-on look. The 2005 Renegade is
more masculine, with a straight hood line resembling the Wrangler, a
different grille, front bumper lamps, skid plates, and other features.
Other 2005 vehicles besides Jeeps unveiled by Chrysler yesterday were
the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum large cars, Chrysler PT Cruiser
convertible, Dodge Dakota pickup, and Chrysler Crossfire roadster.
Chrysler yesterday kept one new 2005 vehicle under wraps until next
month.
"This is more [new products] than any other manufacturer has had in
any year, period," said Chrysler President and Chief Executive Dieter
Zetsche, adding the automaker will introduce 25 new products in the
next 36 months.
Remaining in question is whether Toledo Jeep will continue to be home
to one of those upcoming vehicles, the redesigned Wrangler to be
built starting in 2006 for the 2007 model year. Local 12's Mr. Vuich
said the future Wrangler's production still is a key topic of
discussion during ongoing contract negotiations.
"It has not been resolved yet," he said yesterday.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> I just heard that the redesigned Wrangler model (2005?) will have
its
> wheelbase stretched about 15". Does anyone have more information?
>
> Thanks,
> Linda
95387 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:48pm
Subject: New Precinct Committeeman in the group
I just found out I am now a precinct Committeeman the first meeting is next
Monday. I was given a petition for Helen Purcell to run for County Recorder.
All this is for is to let her enter the election.
I need 14 Registered Republicans to sign this before next Monday. I live on
west side of Phx. and will meet you anyplace close. I want to walk in the
first meeting with a complete form. I will keep everyone interested informed
on this endeavor.
Thanks Jim Florence aka Hackle
602-616-3090
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
95388 From: oneblackjeep <1blackjeep@g...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:56pm
Subject: Re: Another classic Jeep
Interesting. To each his/her own I guess. Nice flat fender job
though.
Jack
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Somebody's pride and joy..
>
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/103856526/103856899FipmEA
95389 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 11:06am
Subject: Re: Re: New Wrangler wheelbase ???
There you go, there is LInda's diesel :-)
One of those vehicles was a new Renegade version of the Toledo-made
2005 Jeep Liberty, which will be refreshed. Plus, the automaker noted
that a 2.8-liter clean diesel version of the compact SUV will be
widely available in November, a previously announced move that will
supply buyers with 25 to 30 percent better fuel efficiency than
achieved by the Liberty's V-6 version.
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95390 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 4:32pm
Subject: Need Help!!! MGCP Meeting Thursday
At this point the attendance looks to be pretty low. If anyone can take a
couple hours out of their week to attend this meeting. It runs 6:00 to 9:00
PM Thursday at the National Guard Armory 52nd St and McDowell it would be a
big help. I will send a reminder with all the info later. Hope to see more
people show up for this. Jim F.
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
95391 From: Steve Richmond <sdrichm@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 4:32pm
Subject: Re: Re: New Wrangler wheelbase ???
Here are a couple of links that show a picture and some info on it. Kind of
interesting...
Steve
http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/previews,view,Jeep.spy?artid=7504&pg=1
http://search4cars.auto123.com/en/info/roadtest/view.spy?make=jeep&artid=7504
----- Original Message -----
From: "oneblackjeep" <1blackjeep@g...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: New Wrangler wheelbase ???
> Here is an article about the new Wrangler and the new Liberty out of
> the Toledo Blade. I think this is the plant where most of the TJ's
> are built. Found this on the NMVJC site.
>
> Jack
>
> '05 'stretch' Wrangler to sell in April
> Official word from Chrysler part of multivehicle unveiling
>
> By JULIE M. McKINNON
> BLADE BUSINESS WRITER
>
>
> DETROIT - DaimlerChrysler AG yesterday finally acknowledged a Toledo-
> focused project in the works for at least 18 months: The 2005 Jeep
> Wrangler Unlimited, a "stretch" version of the sport-utility vehicle.
>
> The Wrangler Unlimited, to be priced between a $19,335 X and $25,085
> Rubicon, will be available in full force in April, months before
> dealerships originally had expected. No jobs are expected to be added
> at Toledo Jeep Assembly to build the Unlimited, which The Blade
> reported more than a year ago was in the works.
>
> The Unlimited has a wheelbase 10 inches longer than the 93.4 inches
> on other Wranglers and an overall length that is 15 inches greater,
> allowing 2 extra inches in the second-row seat as well as more cargo
> room, said Joe Eberhardt, Chrysler's executive vice president of
> sales, marketing, and service.
>
> "You actually can take something with you," he told reporters and
> auto analysts yesterday in downtown Detroit at an unveiling of eight
> vehicles Chrysler will start selling next year.
>
> One of those vehicles was a new Renegade version of the Toledo-made
> 2005 Jeep Liberty, which will be refreshed. Plus, the automaker noted
> that a 2.8-liter clean diesel version of the compact SUV will be
> widely available in November, a previously announced move that will
> supply buyers with 25 to 30 percent better fuel efficiency than
> achieved by the Liberty's V-6 version.
>
> Chrysler also showed video of two concept Jeeps to be shown at
> Detroit's North American International Auto Show in January,
> including the small Treo fuel-cell concept that recently made its
> debut in Tokyo.
>
> The Jeep Rescue - an emergency and military vehicle that looks like
> an enlarged Wrangler with 37-inch tires, a 123-inch wheelbase, and
> other features - will be new, as will the Dodge Sling Shot sports-car
> concept.
>
> The automaker prohibited photographs of the vehicles it unveiled
> yesterday at Cobo Hall, including the Detroit-made 2005 Jeep Grand
> Cherokee. Officials also declined to talk about production and sales
> plans, such as how many Unlimited models will be made at Toledo Jeep
> and whether new or existing Wrangler customers are expected to buy
> them.
>
> Longtime Jeep salesman Ron Szegedi said he anticipates the Unlimited
> will attract different buyers to the Toledo-born brand, such as those
> who don't want an SUV as big as the Liberty yet need more cargo room
> than currently available in a Wrangler.
>
> "That kind of buyer is what I expect we're going to get," the
> salesman at Perrysburg's Ed Schmidt Auto Group said when contacted
> yesterday.
>
> Union officials at Toledo Jeep have been told about half of the
> Unlimited's buyers will be new to the Wrangler line and an estimated
> 20,000 to 25,000 of the models will be made annually, said Nick
> Vuich, Jeep unit chairman for United Auto Workers Local 12.
>
> "We just hope it does well," Mr. Vuich said when contacted yesterday.
>
> The Wrangler Unlimited will be 30 percent quieter on road and better
> at crawling over rocks off road than other Wranglers, said Jeff Bell,
> vice president of Jeep. "In a phrase, it's more Wrangler, " he added.
>
> The Unlimited, which has a towing capacity of 3,500 pounds, will be
> shown at the Detroit auto show with both hard and soft tops. Mr. Bell
> said the Wrangler Sahara model will be phased out in 2004.
>
> Although all Libertys will be refreshed for the 2005 model year, the
> Renegade version will have some unique features beyond a light bar
> and side fenders that have a bolted-on look. The 2005 Renegade is
> more masculine, with a straight hood line resembling the Wrangler, a
> different grille, front bumper lamps, skid plates, and other features.
>
> Other 2005 vehicles besides Jeeps unveiled by Chrysler yesterday were
> the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum large cars, Chrysler PT Cruiser
> convertible, Dodge Dakota pickup, and Chrysler Crossfire roadster.
> Chrysler yesterday kept one new 2005 vehicle under wraps until next
> month.
>
> "This is more [new products] than any other manufacturer has had in
> any year, period," said Chrysler President and Chief Executive Dieter
> Zetsche, adding the automaker will introduce 25 new products in the
> next 36 months.
>
> Remaining in question is whether Toledo Jeep will continue to be home
> to one of those upcoming vehicles, the redesigned Wrangler to be
> built starting in 2006 for the 2007 model year. Local 12's Mr. Vuich
> said the future Wrangler's production still is a key topic of
> discussion during ongoing contract negotiations.
>
> "It has not been resolved yet," he said yesterday.
>
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > I just heard that the redesigned Wrangler model (2005?) will have
> its
> > wheelbase stretched about 15". Does anyone have more information?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Linda
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
95392 From: <urbancrawler@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:12pm
Subject: Ramp almost roll LOL
I almost rolled on the ramp, I would have never lived that down I wonder did anyone get a picture of me almost going over LOL
Richard Logan UrbanCrawler 92 YJ
95393 From: Vernelle Massey <vernellem@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:19pm
Subject: Windshield Frames
I can sell you a new CJ7 Windshield Frame for $90.00 + AZ tax. I will
deliver the Windshield Frame for no charge, to any AZVJeep Club Member
that lives within 30 miles from my house. Call me at 623-583-1787. Ask
for Bob.
95394 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:44pm
Subject: RE: [Tech] 03 TJ Wrangler 2.5 - Do I NEED aux offroad lighting?
BAP ( and some other shops ) sell the Hella headlights that are a direct
bolt in to your TJ . These have a replaceable bulb in them that are 55 watt
low beam and 60 or 65 watt high beam . Places like Cycle World ( and other
shops ) sell 55/100 bulbs and 80/100 bulbs that plug right into the back of
the Hella . These make a huge difference . I used to use the 55/100's in my
Kawasaki Ninja and a lowered street bug . I loved them . I wouldn't use the
80/100's since the low beam is too bright for oncoming traffic . The only
thing that I didn't like about the Hellas it the way the light pattern is
distributed . If you pull up to a wall and look at the pattern , there is a
very abrupt ,horizontal line where the pattern just stops . It's like
looking into a window at night and the roll shade is about 1/3 of the way
closed . In a car that rides smooth you can get used to it but in a lifted
4x4 that bounces around I don't think you would like it . If I remember
right the Hellas were about 75-85 bucks a set and the replacement bulbs were
around 30 bucks a set .
I think you would be happier with a set of QUALITY off road lights instead .
I would use something with a fluted lenses to get better all around coverage
.
Just my thoughts , hope this helps ,
Purple .
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:08 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 03 TJ Wrangler 2.5 - Do I NEED aux offroad
lighting?
If anyone has a alternate way to go for much more light , let me know. Can I
just change my head lights from factory to a better, brighter, light?
Popular thing is to put KC's or something on, but I think there might be
just a simple head lamp change needed. If you have knowledge of this issue,
please enlighten me. (no pun intended..well yes ,there was) Chuck G.
chuck giragosian
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95395 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:45pm
Subject: Re: Question
I think the AMC4x4 savlage will sell you a complete motor and all the FI
stuff for about $1200. If you watch EBAY and for people parting out
jeeps you can do it much cheaper. Think I have about $100 tied up in my
Renix system so far and I'm about 80% done.
juan2boneu wrote:
> ---Thanks for the info! I really would like to convert my Jeep to FI
> but theres that one little thing that keeps me from doing it($$$). I
> heard it is really expensive to do it. Do you know how much it would
> be? I just dont want to dump anymore money in this thing...
>
> In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "leonardpennock" <leonardpennock@c...>
> wrote:
>
>>The head for a 4.2 is narrower than a 4.0, so you would have to do
>>some coolling passage work to put the 4.2 head on a 4.0.
>>
>>The real question is why would you want to? The 4.2 head is a POS
>>when it comes to making power. The reason the 4.0 makes so much
>
> more
>
>>HP and torque than the 4.2 is the head.
>>
>>Best thing to do is pick up the FI stuff for a HO and use that to
>>covert your 88 to FI. Then you will get the best of everything. If
>>you really want to run a carb, then Clifford makes 4 barrel manifold
>>for the 4.0 Head.
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "juan2boneu" <juan2boneu@y...> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a brand new engine that is for a 96-99, 4.0 engine. It
>
> will be
>
>>>going in a 88 wrangler that had a 4.2 engine. Can I swap the head
>
> out
>
>>>for a 88 . Will a 4.2 head fit on a 4.0 engine?? Can anyone help?
--
Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
95396 From: Don W <donjodie@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:53pm
Subject: RE: New Precinct Committeeman in the group
Why not post this to the AZVJC trips? Then you can maybe make one trip
out and get all the sigs. Say some night around 7. Or I am available
any night after 7 and I am west side as well.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hackle [mailto:hackle@q...]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:49 PM
To: AZOHV; RockRats@yahoogroups. Com; Az_Vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] New Precinct Committeeman in the group
I just found out I am now a precinct Committeeman the first
meeting is next
Monday. I was given a petition for Helen Purcell to run for County
Recorder.
All this is for is to let her enter the election.
I need 14 Registered Republicans to sign this before next
Monday. I live on
west side of Phx. and will meet you anyplace close. I want to walk in
the
first meeting with a complete form. I will keep everyone interested
informed
on this endeavor.
Thanks Jim Florence aka Hackle
602-616-3090
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
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95372 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 9:17am
Subject: Re: December 20th Sat 3.5-4.0 run???????
Actually I meant Upper Terminator. I ran it with 30's and no lockers.
Hit the diff a few times but other than that I had no problem. Jeff
CamoXJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> Maybe you mean Lower Raw Deal? That's in the 3.5 range.
> I would recommend against running Lower Terminator with
> 30's and no locker or lift.
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > Rob, not to rag on your XJ LOL but I think you want to keep it to
a
> > 3.5 max. 4.0 would tear the hell out of your XJ. I need to get
out
> > also but deer hunting starts the 12th and I am going to Benson to
> > hunt (hopefully I'll get one the first weekend). Been itching for
a
> > good 3.5 run. Lower Terminator? Thats always a good one but need
> > someone that knows the way and can lead. Been there once and had
a
> > blast, very challenging. I've got pics you can check out Rob if
you
> > want. Post it up and see if you can get someone to lead. I did it
> > with 30's, no locker and I think no lift or 3" lift. You might
want
> > to shave that rear diff because I got hung up a few times on
mine.
> > Anywho, I'll see if i can make it, all depends on the deer :o)
Jeff
> > CamoXJ --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Hydrosense@a... wrote:
> > > Any runs then? ,if not Lets go somewhere someone anyone
> anywhere..
> > this is
> > > like the only day this month that I am clear to go, need a
> *****in
> > minimum of a
> > > 3.0-4.0 rating. the more the marier wife has a
friendcoming
> > over that
> > > day so I will leave early and come home late LOL
> > > Lets gooooooooooooo Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ
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95373 From: frank badazxj <BadAZXJ@h...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 9:24am
Subject: 47 willys for sale for $2900 bucks
I have a friend selling a jeep and I told him I would post this up for
him....
"Thought I would tell you, and see if anyone you know is interested in
buying a hunting jeep.
Street legal and licenced. Original Ford Engine (Go Devil) and Tran less
than 10,000 miles. Electric fuel pump, klaxton horn, metal hard top, heater
& fan, tow bar with tow lights. $2900.00"
picture attached.
if interested , you can reach him @ Roger D. Stump Law Office of Charles
McTheny
2700 N. 3rd Street Suite 2005 Phoenix, AZ 85004 602-200-6855
Thanks,
Frank
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95374 From: Frank BadAZXJ <BadAZXJ@h...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 9:36am
Subject: Re: BBQ
Had a great time as well. Thanks John for hosting this...The yearly
bbq is as much a part of this group as the annual run. Most people
probably dont realize what goes into setting something like this up,
its a lot of work and we appreaciate it John!
Thanks again,
Frank
groups.msn.com/badazxj
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> Well my family and I had a blast! Another great party John,you
sure
> know how to throw them :)
> Wanted to tell everyone thank you and that your all like a family
> too me, Thank you! Except Jim who posted the ramp scores...in my
> defence I was in my truck not my jeep...but I promise too do better
> next year in my Jeep :)
> Thanks again everyone, see ya soon
> Sharky
95375 From: Mookie <touringmookie@k...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 11:13am
Subject: Re: jeep stereo
Also make sure you are not sending full signal to the fronts and
subs. You should have a crossover. If there isn't one built onto the
amp.
mookie
95376 From: cj7pilot2004 <motorbehr@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 11:48am
Subject: Windshield frame
Can anyone give me a heads-up on where to find a new or used
windowframe
for a 79 CJ7?? Thanks.
95377 From: candace <bequietorillstop@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 11:50am
Subject: Re: jeep stereo
thanks everyone for the advice!
candace <bequietorillstop@y...> wrote:hi all
i have a 1996 jeep grand cherokee orvis edition with the infinity gold stereo system. i've located an amp under the back seat, driver's side. does anyone know if i can hook up my sub to it, or do i need a convertor and / or after-market amp?
much thanks,
c
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95378 From: Simon <simon@4...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 0:01pm
Subject: Re: Windshield frame
I/We have new bare frames in stock $143.00
Hope this helps
Simon at 4 Wheelers Supply
602 273 7195
----- Original Message -----
From: "cj7pilot2004" <motorbehr@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 12:48 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Windshield frame
> Can anyone give me a heads-up on where to find a new or used
> windowframe
> for a 79 CJ7?? Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
95379 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 0:34pm
Subject: Re: Windshield frame
4wd.com lists them at $140 but you'd have to pay shipping on top of
that, so Simon's deal sounds pretty good.
(4)Steel Windshield Frame, CJ, 1976-86
Product Number: 5453941
Price: $139.94
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Simon" <simon@4...> wrote:
> I/We have new bare frames in stock $143.00
> Hope this helps
> Simon at 4 Wheelers Supply
> 602 273 7195
>
>
> > Can anyone give me a heads-up on where to find a new or used
> > windowframe
> > for a 79 CJ7?? Thanks.
95380 From: <NVRSTUKXJ@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 0:47pm
Subject: Re: Windshield frame
probably on a 79 cj7.....
sorry...couldn't resist.... :-)
95381 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 0:58pm
Subject: Another classic Jeep
Somebody's pride and joy..
http://community.webshots.com/photo/103856526/103856899FipmEA
95382 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 1:13pm
Subject: Re: Another classic Jeep
gack.
--- Linda <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Somebody's pride and joy..
>
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/103856526/103856899FipmEA
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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95383 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 2:01pm
Subject: Trip Report - Toys For Tots Upper Woodpecker
First off...BIG thanks and kudos to Kat and Jeff for getting this run
organized. Fun run, good weather, great cause...what else can you ask
for?
This was supposed to be the Jackhandle trip, but we made an executive
group decision to hit Upper Wood instead. Less dirt road to travel,
more challenging for those running, and yet still doable for mildly
built Jeeps.
So 7 of us headed out - Me in my old YJ, Eric (CJ7), Rick (Urban
Crawler YJ), Pat (TJ Rubicon), Gare (TJ), Brad (TJ) and Mike (XJ). I
think Rick and I were the only ones who had run the trail before, so
everyone else was excited to try something new.
Brad and Mike were driving the least built rigs of the group...if you
can call them that. Brad's TJ is lifted and on 33's, but open f/r. And
Mike's XJ is running about 5" lift and a rear locker, but he's running
those space saver spares that you find in the trunk of new cars!
Actually, they are 30's, but still...
They both did great on the trail with relatively little spotting.
Brad's making future plans for TJ upgrades and Mike was grinning the
entire trip...especially after each obstacle set!
Pat and Gare were both driving very nicely built TJ's, but were new to
the trail. Gare's atlas was hiccupping a bit in the beginning, but he
did get it to engage 4-lo and all was well after that. I think Pat ran
tailgunner most of the day...thanks! They both drove really well, so
nothing to worry about back there.
Eric was behind me and no trouble with anything. And Rick is barely
worth mentioning! Haha. That YJ creation of his is pretty sweet.
Three of us ran Firehole (me, Eric and Rick) without any troubles. I
think my Dad, who was passenger in my Jeep, thought I was kidding when I
pointed to the Firehole and said "all we gotta do is stradle that gap
there"!
We caught up to another group who had a YJ with a busted D30 u-joint
just a little past the Firehole. No way to go around, so we had to wait
til the fix was complete. No troubles after that. We stopped for lunch
around 12:30 - 1:00 at the top of the dirt road (near the Mine), and
then headed out. Eric and Mike ran out thru Box Canyon and the rest of
us hot-dogged back to the starting point. Thanks again to Pat for
letting me mooch off of his on board air before hitting the pavement
home.
I had a great time and would run with any of you again. Hope you think
the same!
Brad should be posting a link to the pics he took soon.
Later,
Tom
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95384 From: Scott Tate <scott@f...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 2:20pm
Subject: Radiator/"Street" Tires for sale
Guys,
I have a few things for sale that might be useful to someone. I
have an aftermarket radiator that I used in my 90 YJ that was purchased
out of 4 wheel drive hardware. It was the 4wd hardware v8 conversion
radiator. It's perfect if you are doing a v8 swap or just need a bit
more cooling power! The inflow side is on the top driver's side while
the return is below on the passenger side. I'd probably get rid of that
for $50.
Also, I have a used set of Michelin XC LT4 225 70 R16's. They are
really expensive tires (great for the street) and probably have about
20,000 miles of tread left on them (so says NTB Tire). I'd sell the
four of those for 100 dollars. Let me know if anyone is interested.
I'm in Gilbert.
Later.
Scott Tate
95385 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:08pm
Subject: [Tech] 03 TJ Wrangler 2.5 - Do I NEED aux offroad lighting?
If anyone has a alternate way to go for much more light , let me know. Can I just change my head lights from factory to a better, brighter, light? Popular thing is to put KC's or something on, but I think there might be just a simple head lamp change needed. If you have knowledge of this issue, please enlighten me. (no pun intended..well yes ,there was) Chuck G.
chuck giragosian
95386 From: oneblackjeep <1blackjeep@g...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:42pm
Subject: Re: New Wrangler wheelbase ???
Here is an article about the new Wrangler and the new Liberty out of
the Toledo Blade. I think this is the plant where most of the TJ's
are built. Found this on the NMVJC site.
Jack
'05 'stretch' Wrangler to sell in April
Official word from Chrysler part of multivehicle unveiling
By JULIE M. McKINNON
BLADE BUSINESS WRITER
DETROIT - DaimlerChrysler AG yesterday finally acknowledged a Toledo-
focused project in the works for at least 18 months: The 2005 Jeep
Wrangler Unlimited, a "stretch" version of the sport-utility vehicle.
The Wrangler Unlimited, to be priced between a $19,335 X and $25,085
Rubicon, will be available in full force in April, months before
dealerships originally had expected. No jobs are expected to be added
at Toledo Jeep Assembly to build the Unlimited, which The Blade
reported more than a year ago was in the works.
The Unlimited has a wheelbase 10 inches longer than the 93.4 inches
on other Wranglers and an overall length that is 15 inches greater,
allowing 2 extra inches in the second-row seat as well as more cargo
room, said Joe Eberhardt, Chrysler's executive vice president of
sales, marketing, and service.
"You actually can take something with you," he told reporters and
auto analysts yesterday in downtown Detroit at an unveiling of eight
vehicles Chrysler will start selling next year.
One of those vehicles was a new Renegade version of the Toledo-made
2005 Jeep Liberty, which will be refreshed. Plus, the automaker noted
that a 2.8-liter clean diesel version of the compact SUV will be
widely available in November, a previously announced move that will
supply buyers with 25 to 30 percent better fuel efficiency than
achieved by the Liberty's V-6 version.
Chrysler also showed video of two concept Jeeps to be shown at
Detroit's North American International Auto Show in January,
including the small Treo fuel-cell concept that recently made its
debut in Tokyo.
The Jeep Rescue - an emergency and military vehicle that looks like
an enlarged Wrangler with 37-inch tires, a 123-inch wheelbase, and
other features - will be new, as will the Dodge Sling Shot sports-car
concept.
The automaker prohibited photographs of the vehicles it unveiled
yesterday at Cobo Hall, including the Detroit-made 2005 Jeep Grand
Cherokee. Officials also declined to talk about production and sales
plans, such as how many Unlimited models will be made at Toledo Jeep
and whether new or existing Wrangler customers are expected to buy
them.
Longtime Jeep salesman Ron Szegedi said he anticipates the Unlimited
will attract different buyers to the Toledo-born brand, such as those
who don't want an SUV as big as the Liberty yet need more cargo room
than currently available in a Wrangler.
"That kind of buyer is what I expect we're going to get," the
salesman at Perrysburg's Ed Schmidt Auto Group said when contacted
yesterday.
Union officials at Toledo Jeep have been told about half of the
Unlimited's buyers will be new to the Wrangler line and an estimated
20,000 to 25,000 of the models will be made annually, said Nick
Vuich, Jeep unit chairman for United Auto Workers Local 12.
"We just hope it does well," Mr. Vuich said when contacted yesterday.
The Wrangler Unlimited will be 30 percent quieter on road and better
at crawling over rocks off road than other Wranglers, said Jeff Bell,
vice president of Jeep. "In a phrase, it's more Wrangler, " he added.
The Unlimited, which has a towing capacity of 3,500 pounds, will be
shown at the Detroit auto show with both hard and soft tops. Mr. Bell
said the Wrangler Sahara model will be phased out in 2004.
Although all Libertys will be refreshed for the 2005 model year, the
Renegade version will have some unique features beyond a light bar
and side fenders that have a bolted-on look. The 2005 Renegade is
more masculine, with a straight hood line resembling the Wrangler, a
different grille, front bumper lamps, skid plates, and other features.
Other 2005 vehicles besides Jeeps unveiled by Chrysler yesterday were
the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum large cars, Chrysler PT Cruiser
convertible, Dodge Dakota pickup, and Chrysler Crossfire roadster.
Chrysler yesterday kept one new 2005 vehicle under wraps until next
month.
"This is more [new products] than any other manufacturer has had in
any year, period," said Chrysler President and Chief Executive Dieter
Zetsche, adding the automaker will introduce 25 new products in the
next 36 months.
Remaining in question is whether Toledo Jeep will continue to be home
to one of those upcoming vehicles, the redesigned Wrangler to be
built starting in 2006 for the 2007 model year. Local 12's Mr. Vuich
said the future Wrangler's production still is a key topic of
discussion during ongoing contract negotiations.
"It has not been resolved yet," he said yesterday.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> I just heard that the redesigned Wrangler model (2005?) will have
its
> wheelbase stretched about 15". Does anyone have more information?
>
> Thanks,
> Linda
95387 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:48pm
Subject: New Precinct Committeeman in the group
I just found out I am now a precinct Committeeman the first meeting is next
Monday. I was given a petition for Helen Purcell to run for County Recorder.
All this is for is to let her enter the election.
I need 14 Registered Republicans to sign this before next Monday. I live on
west side of Phx. and will meet you anyplace close. I want to walk in the
first meeting with a complete form. I will keep everyone interested informed
on this endeavor.
Thanks Jim Florence aka Hackle
602-616-3090
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
95388 From: oneblackjeep <1blackjeep@g...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 3:56pm
Subject: Re: Another classic Jeep
Interesting. To each his/her own I guess. Nice flat fender job
though.
Jack
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Somebody's pride and joy..
>
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/103856526/103856899FipmEA
95389 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 11:06am
Subject: Re: Re: New Wrangler wheelbase ???
There you go, there is LInda's diesel :-)
One of those vehicles was a new Renegade version of the Toledo-made
2005 Jeep Liberty, which will be refreshed. Plus, the automaker noted
that a 2.8-liter clean diesel version of the compact SUV will be
widely available in November, a previously announced move that will
supply buyers with 25 to 30 percent better fuel efficiency than
achieved by the Liberty's V-6 version.
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95390 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 4:32pm
Subject: Need Help!!! MGCP Meeting Thursday
At this point the attendance looks to be pretty low. If anyone can take a
couple hours out of their week to attend this meeting. It runs 6:00 to 9:00
PM Thursday at the National Guard Armory 52nd St and McDowell it would be a
big help. I will send a reminder with all the info later. Hope to see more
people show up for this. Jim F.
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
95391 From: Steve Richmond <sdrichm@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 4:32pm
Subject: Re: Re: New Wrangler wheelbase ???
Here are a couple of links that show a picture and some info on it. Kind of
interesting...
Steve
http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/previews,view,Jeep.spy?artid=7504&pg=1
http://search4cars.auto123.com/en/info/roadtest/view.spy?make=jeep&artid=7504
----- Original Message -----
From: "oneblackjeep" <1blackjeep@g...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: New Wrangler wheelbase ???
> Here is an article about the new Wrangler and the new Liberty out of
> the Toledo Blade. I think this is the plant where most of the TJ's
> are built. Found this on the NMVJC site.
>
> Jack
>
> '05 'stretch' Wrangler to sell in April
> Official word from Chrysler part of multivehicle unveiling
>
> By JULIE M. McKINNON
> BLADE BUSINESS WRITER
>
>
> DETROIT - DaimlerChrysler AG yesterday finally acknowledged a Toledo-
> focused project in the works for at least 18 months: The 2005 Jeep
> Wrangler Unlimited, a "stretch" version of the sport-utility vehicle.
>
> The Wrangler Unlimited, to be priced between a $19,335 X and $25,085
> Rubicon, will be available in full force in April, months before
> dealerships originally had expected. No jobs are expected to be added
> at Toledo Jeep Assembly to build the Unlimited, which The Blade
> reported more than a year ago was in the works.
>
> The Unlimited has a wheelbase 10 inches longer than the 93.4 inches
> on other Wranglers and an overall length that is 15 inches greater,
> allowing 2 extra inches in the second-row seat as well as more cargo
> room, said Joe Eberhardt, Chrysler's executive vice president of
> sales, marketing, and service.
>
> "You actually can take something with you," he told reporters and
> auto analysts yesterday in downtown Detroit at an unveiling of eight
> vehicles Chrysler will start selling next year.
>
> One of those vehicles was a new Renegade version of the Toledo-made
> 2005 Jeep Liberty, which will be refreshed. Plus, the automaker noted
> that a 2.8-liter clean diesel version of the compact SUV will be
> widely available in November, a previously announced move that will
> supply buyers with 25 to 30 percent better fuel efficiency than
> achieved by the Liberty's V-6 version.
>
> Chrysler also showed video of two concept Jeeps to be shown at
> Detroit's North American International Auto Show in January,
> including the small Treo fuel-cell concept that recently made its
> debut in Tokyo.
>
> The Jeep Rescue - an emergency and military vehicle that looks like
> an enlarged Wrangler with 37-inch tires, a 123-inch wheelbase, and
> other features - will be new, as will the Dodge Sling Shot sports-car
> concept.
>
> The automaker prohibited photographs of the vehicles it unveiled
> yesterday at Cobo Hall, including the Detroit-made 2005 Jeep Grand
> Cherokee. Officials also declined to talk about production and sales
> plans, such as how many Unlimited models will be made at Toledo Jeep
> and whether new or existing Wrangler customers are expected to buy
> them.
>
> Longtime Jeep salesman Ron Szegedi said he anticipates the Unlimited
> will attract different buyers to the Toledo-born brand, such as those
> who don't want an SUV as big as the Liberty yet need more cargo room
> than currently available in a Wrangler.
>
> "That kind of buyer is what I expect we're going to get," the
> salesman at Perrysburg's Ed Schmidt Auto Group said when contacted
> yesterday.
>
> Union officials at Toledo Jeep have been told about half of the
> Unlimited's buyers will be new to the Wrangler line and an estimated
> 20,000 to 25,000 of the models will be made annually, said Nick
> Vuich, Jeep unit chairman for United Auto Workers Local 12.
>
> "We just hope it does well," Mr. Vuich said when contacted yesterday.
>
> The Wrangler Unlimited will be 30 percent quieter on road and better
> at crawling over rocks off road than other Wranglers, said Jeff Bell,
> vice president of Jeep. "In a phrase, it's more Wrangler, " he added.
>
> The Unlimited, which has a towing capacity of 3,500 pounds, will be
> shown at the Detroit auto show with both hard and soft tops. Mr. Bell
> said the Wrangler Sahara model will be phased out in 2004.
>
> Although all Libertys will be refreshed for the 2005 model year, the
> Renegade version will have some unique features beyond a light bar
> and side fenders that have a bolted-on look. The 2005 Renegade is
> more masculine, with a straight hood line resembling the Wrangler, a
> different grille, front bumper lamps, skid plates, and other features.
>
> Other 2005 vehicles besides Jeeps unveiled by Chrysler yesterday were
> the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Magnum large cars, Chrysler PT Cruiser
> convertible, Dodge Dakota pickup, and Chrysler Crossfire roadster.
> Chrysler yesterday kept one new 2005 vehicle under wraps until next
> month.
>
> "This is more [new products] than any other manufacturer has had in
> any year, period," said Chrysler President and Chief Executive Dieter
> Zetsche, adding the automaker will introduce 25 new products in the
> next 36 months.
>
> Remaining in question is whether Toledo Jeep will continue to be home
> to one of those upcoming vehicles, the redesigned Wrangler to be
> built starting in 2006 for the 2007 model year. Local 12's Mr. Vuich
> said the future Wrangler's production still is a key topic of
> discussion during ongoing contract negotiations.
>
> "It has not been resolved yet," he said yesterday.
>
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > I just heard that the redesigned Wrangler model (2005?) will have
> its
> > wheelbase stretched about 15". Does anyone have more information?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Linda
>
>
>
>
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>
95392 From: <urbancrawler@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:12pm
Subject: Ramp almost roll LOL
I almost rolled on the ramp, I would have never lived that down I wonder did anyone get a picture of me almost going over LOL
Richard Logan UrbanCrawler 92 YJ
95393 From: Vernelle Massey <vernellem@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:19pm
Subject: Windshield Frames
I can sell you a new CJ7 Windshield Frame for $90.00 + AZ tax. I will
deliver the Windshield Frame for no charge, to any AZVJeep Club Member
that lives within 30 miles from my house. Call me at 623-583-1787. Ask
for Bob.
95394 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:44pm
Subject: RE: [Tech] 03 TJ Wrangler 2.5 - Do I NEED aux offroad lighting?
BAP ( and some other shops ) sell the Hella headlights that are a direct
bolt in to your TJ . These have a replaceable bulb in them that are 55 watt
low beam and 60 or 65 watt high beam . Places like Cycle World ( and other
shops ) sell 55/100 bulbs and 80/100 bulbs that plug right into the back of
the Hella . These make a huge difference . I used to use the 55/100's in my
Kawasaki Ninja and a lowered street bug . I loved them . I wouldn't use the
80/100's since the low beam is too bright for oncoming traffic . The only
thing that I didn't like about the Hellas it the way the light pattern is
distributed . If you pull up to a wall and look at the pattern , there is a
very abrupt ,horizontal line where the pattern just stops . It's like
looking into a window at night and the roll shade is about 1/3 of the way
closed . In a car that rides smooth you can get used to it but in a lifted
4x4 that bounces around I don't think you would like it . If I remember
right the Hellas were about 75-85 bucks a set and the replacement bulbs were
around 30 bucks a set .
I think you would be happier with a set of QUALITY off road lights instead .
I would use something with a fluted lenses to get better all around coverage
.
Just my thoughts , hope this helps ,
Purple .
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:08 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 03 TJ Wrangler 2.5 - Do I NEED aux offroad
lighting?
If anyone has a alternate way to go for much more light , let me know. Can I
just change my head lights from factory to a better, brighter, light?
Popular thing is to put KC's or something on, but I think there might be
just a simple head lamp change needed. If you have knowledge of this issue,
please enlighten me. (no pun intended..well yes ,there was) Chuck G.
chuck giragosian
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95395 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:45pm
Subject: Re: Question
I think the AMC4x4 savlage will sell you a complete motor and all the FI
stuff for about $1200. If you watch EBAY and for people parting out
jeeps you can do it much cheaper. Think I have about $100 tied up in my
Renix system so far and I'm about 80% done.
juan2boneu wrote:
> ---Thanks for the info! I really would like to convert my Jeep to FI
> but theres that one little thing that keeps me from doing it($$$). I
> heard it is really expensive to do it. Do you know how much it would
> be? I just dont want to dump anymore money in this thing...
>
> In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "leonardpennock" <leonardpennock@c...>
> wrote:
>
>>The head for a 4.2 is narrower than a 4.0, so you would have to do
>>some coolling passage work to put the 4.2 head on a 4.0.
>>
>>The real question is why would you want to? The 4.2 head is a POS
>>when it comes to making power. The reason the 4.0 makes so much
>
> more
>
>>HP and torque than the 4.2 is the head.
>>
>>Best thing to do is pick up the FI stuff for a HO and use that to
>>covert your 88 to FI. Then you will get the best of everything. If
>>you really want to run a carb, then Clifford makes 4 barrel manifold
>>for the 4.0 Head.
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "juan2boneu" <juan2boneu@y...> wrote:
>>
>>>I have a brand new engine that is for a 96-99, 4.0 engine. It
>
> will be
>
>>>going in a 88 wrangler that had a 4.2 engine. Can I swap the head
>
> out
>
>>>for a 88 . Will a 4.2 head fit on a 4.0 engine?? Can anyone help?
--
Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
95396 From: Don W <donjodie@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:53pm
Subject: RE: New Precinct Committeeman in the group
Why not post this to the AZVJC trips? Then you can maybe make one trip
out and get all the sigs. Say some night around 7. Or I am available
any night after 7 and I am west side as well.
-----Original Message-----
From: Hackle [mailto:hackle@q...]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 4:49 PM
To: AZOHV; RockRats@yahoogroups. Com; Az_Vjc
Subject: [az_vjc] New Precinct Committeeman in the group
I just found out I am now a precinct Committeeman the first
meeting is next
Monday. I was given a petition for Helen Purcell to run for County
Recorder.
All this is for is to let her enter the election.
I need 14 Registered Republicans to sign this before next
Monday. I live on
west side of Phx. and will meet you anyplace close. I want to walk in
the
first meeting with a complete form. I will keep everyone interested
informed
on this endeavor.
Thanks Jim Florence aka Hackle
602-616-3090
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
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