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95347 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:19pm
Subject: [TR] Coves of Saguaro Lake - Saturday, December 20, 2003
Hello All,Rob Bolin sr. is leading a Coves of Saguaro Lake trail run on Saturday, December 20, 2003.<br><br>When: Meet at 8:30-9:00am, Air down and take off around 9:30.
Where: Butcher Jones picnic area Saguaro lake.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: Till whenever
CB Channel: 4
A fun trail/s anywhere from 2.0 to 4.0+ rating so stock OHV's or full on rock buggies can enjoy.Lots of bypasses. Bring your own food and drink, games ,I'm bringin horseshoes.Basicly there's lots of trails out there so I will lead to the coves(for the first timers). I plan on doin a lot of wheelin and quite a bit of just loungin and relaxin If We can find a cove big enough to acomodate all of us. and just have a good time hangin out away from the city before christmas.come and go as you please theres a lot of trails out there so take your pick...I will be in a 2000 silver Jeep XJ w/3.5" lift and roof rack and lights.. C-ya there
At the Coves of Saguaro Lake, there are at least 4 coves to play in, on, and around. Many hill climbs provide a challenge to all levels of 4-Wheelers and vehicles.<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
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95348 From: Mark S <azjeeptj@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:21pm
Subject: RE: BBQ
Hey,
Great BBQ, first time at a club meeting this large, had a great time.
Met some very nice folks and was able to get some good tips. The ramp
was cool and so was the snowman with the Grinch music, my kids loved
that! Thanks for Hunter Offroad for having it at his place.
Mark S
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott G [mailto:98tjgreen@c...]
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 5:32 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ
Just left the BBQ just wanted to say thanks to all who helped put it
together. We had a good time. FYI we left early in the stock green TJ
because my girlfriends daughter had to be at a recital by 5:45, well
there ready, time to go. Wish we could have stayed longer.
Scott G
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95349 From: Marty Escarcega <escarcega@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:29pm
Subject: FS: '89 I6 Engine and Auto Trans
1989 Jeep, carbureted Inline 6 Cylinder Engine and automatic
transmission. 68,000 actual maintained miles. Both the engine and the
transmission are still in the Jeep and can be heard run and driven.
Both are in very good condition! Upgrade your 2.5L 4 cylinder engine
or replace your tired 6 cylinder. $650 for the pair. Reason for
selling, impending upgrade to Vortec 4.3L V6.
Both are located in Mesa, AZ. If interested, email me,
escarcegaATcox.net
I will be trying to document the transformation of the wife's bone
stock, low mileage YJ on her web page in the coming months. Upgrades
to include, new paint, upgraded engine and overdrive transmission, 3"
Rough Country lift, 32" BFG Mud Terrains and wheels, new seat covers,
new tube bumpers and nerf bars....
95350 From: rolled1000 <rolled1@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:43pm
Subject: Re: trac loc disassembly question...
You need to spread the larger 2 gears apart using a peice of all
thread and 2 nuts. Put the all tread in where you took out the pin,
screw on the 2 nuts and put pressure on the gears . the smaller ones
should come out.
Terry
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Deschapelles <andrewrrdd@y...>
wrote:
> Hi all...
>
> I am in the process of disassembling my trac loc (dana 30) so that I
can inspect the clutch plates and decide whether or not to install a
brand new pack. I removed the pin retaining the spider gears
expecting the spider gears and thrust washers to just fall out... but
I cant budge them.
>
> Whats do I need to do to get them out? Are the Side Gears under
load from the clutches, thus pressing agains the Spider Gears? If so,
any tips as to getting them out?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Andrew
>
>
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95351 From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:52pm
Subject: New file uploaded to az_vjc
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the az_vjc
group.
File : /RTI Scores.xls
Uploaded by : hackle_2001 <hackle@q...>
Description : Ramp Scores 12-07-03
You can access this file at the URL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/files/RTI%20Scores.xls
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95352 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:56pm
Subject: Ramp Scores
These will be hard to read and I can not attach an excel file so I put the
excel file in the file section on Yahoo AZVJC.
I hope everyone had a good time.
Jim F.
First Name Last Name Vehicle Type Wheel Base Ramp Travel RTI
Brian Luse 42 Willy's MB 80 42 525.00
Link Blazer 106 98 924.53
Hunter buggy 118 100 847.46
Eric Griffin CJ-7 93.5 111 1187.17
Dan Siegel CJ-8 103.5 124 1198.07
Bellinger sammy 82 79 963.41
Frank Bell TJ 93.4 87 931.48
Eric Bellinger TJ 93.4 91.25 976.98
Bitcairs TJ 93.4 82.5 883.30
Folson TJ 93.4 95.5 1022.48
Rio Harbor TJ 93.4 101 1081.37
Himley TJ 93.4 96 1027.84
Dave Johnstone TJ 93.4 98 1049.25
Brad Kilgore TJ 93.4 115 1231.26
Jason LaLiberty TJ 93.4 116 1241.97
Brian Luse TJ 93.4 94 1006.42
Jason Merrill TJ 93.4 94 1006.42
Eric Nielsen TJ 93.4 92 985.01
Stu Olson TJ 93.4 94 1006.42
rerun brad TJ 93.4 122 1306.21
rerun jason TJ 93.4 114.5 1225.91
Brian Senska TJ 93.4 106.5 1140.26
Troy Silva TJ 93.4 88 942.18
Kent Warner TJ 93.4 87.5 936.83
Rick Beer XJ 101.4 91 897.44
Andrew Boughton XJ 101.4 86 848.13
Darly Byassee XJ 101.4 107 1055.23
Joe Daro XJ 101.4 88 867.85
Louis DeCamillo XJ 101.4 102.5 1010.85
Farthing XJ 101.4 83 818.54
Lafontain Xj 101.4 77 759.37
Rick Norman XJ 101.4 105.5 1040.43
Jeff Trujillo XJ 101.4 77 759.37
Wilson XJ 101.4 95 936.88
Jim Florence YJ 93.4 102 1092.08
Veronica Flynn YJ 93.4 57 610.28
Russ Gervater YJ 93.4 91 974.30
Joey Kulich YJ 93.4 64 685.22
Richard Logan YJ 102 104.5 1024.51
Scott Maiden YJ 93.4 97.5 1043.90
Nasser Pirshafiey YJ 93.4 114 1220.56
Roger Tomas YJ 93.4 86.5 926.12
Jodan Townsend YJ 93.4 66 706.64
Scott Wade YJ 93.4 85 910.06
Sue Beer ZJ 105.9 53 500.47
Rick Clarke ZJ 105.9 82 774.32
Sharky 133 54 406.02
Marv Springer 111 117.5 1058.56
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95353 From: Sharky <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 7:09pm
Subject: BBQ
Well my family and I had a blast! Another great party John,you sure
know how to throw them :)
Wanted to tell everyone thank you and that your all like a family
too me, Thank you! Except Jim who posted the ramp scores...in my
defence I was in my truck not my jeep...but I promise too do better
next year in my Jeep :)
Thanks again everyone, see ya soon
Sharky
95354 From: Eric Marcus <3timejeepin@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 7:17pm
Subject: bbq
Hey guys my first time out also to a club meeting, new member, I have a
great time and have found a lot of cool new products I am going to have
to get my hands on. I knew buying a jeep meant empty your pockets.
Anyways seems like really nice people and I cant wait to get out on the
trails and wheel with some of you guys. Thanks and have a great holiday.
Thanks,
Eric Marcus
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95355 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 7:54pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Ajax (Lower) - Saturday, December 6, 2003
Hello All,
Jeff Titus lead a trail run Saturday, December 6, 2003 across Ajax (Lower)
Was a great day (no wind) Just the right amount of Az sun. Great bunch of people to wheel with. We had a couple of newbees with us. It was fun watching them do the trail and not believe that their jeeps could do the stuff it was doin. They talked all day on the list of things that were going to do to there riggs. You all know what I'm talkin about (bin there done that).Only had minor damage. Jim Sanford some how got the side of his windshield and Nick got his fender flare in the back a little on his new Rubicon. The biggest problem we had is the trip leader(me)had a blow out of my pants at the crotch and I had no trail fixins for that so I had to do the rest of the run sportin a new look. :o) Thanks to Brandon for the pics on the run they look great. Thanks to Jeff and Katrina Titus for a great time for this Toys for Tots run. Hope to be bigger next year! Later, Steve J<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1108
Click the above link to View Pictures (if available)Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
95356 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Highway to Hell - Saturday, December 6, 2003
Hello All,
Jeff Titus lead a trail run Saturday, December 6, 2003 across Highway to Hell
Kevin Shaver and Vincent Ercolani showed up before we left camp so they joined right in and we all (6 rigs) took out for the trail. 3 of the group were virgin to H2H so it was fun to see them get through it. <br>
<br>
The XJ driven by James did VERY well----no broken glass! he was running 32's and LSD. his spotter, Chris was right on the whole way.<br>
<br>
Kevin did all the hard lines with his dynatrac 60's YJ.....well done TEAM YJ :)<br>
<br>
Vincent blew a brand new BFG right off the bat and he stuck his foot in the hole it was so big. he thrwe on the spare and was good to go. <br>
<br>
Eddie taco'd his tie-rod and we sleeved it....now stronger than the stock TJ for sure.<br>
<br>
Mark had his front driveshaft slip out on the undercut waterfall and twisted the splines. he ground them down and was back on the trail. nice fix Mark!<br>
<br>
Vincent's roobeecon tried to kill me when I was kindly wrapping his winch cable------jeep took to rolling downhill with me in front scramblin fer my life :) TEAM TJ trying to take out the opposition!<br>
<br>
We got out pretty late---sun setting and Vince calls on the radio-----his tie-rod dropped off. the bolt sheared off, so we welded it back on and headed for the pavement. rolled in after dark......<br>
<br>
Greatest weather EVER, just the right temp with no wind and sun all day. large moon at dark and just an AWESOME wheelin day.<br>
<br>
Thanks guys /gals for the great trip! and thanks to Jeff and Katrina Titus for the well organized Toys-for-Tots gig :)<br>
<br>
Rock ONNNNNNNNNN<br>
<br>
Steve Sample<br>
<br>
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1109
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- The AzVJC Website
95357 From: anthony <a_celaya@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 8:11pm
Subject: Re: BBQ
Hey sharky, it was good to see you and the family there. you've come a long
way down recovery lane, and let me just say, thanks for being at the BBQ. a
big shout out to John, another awesome BBQ, another awesome year, great job!
Anthony Celaya
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:09 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ
> Well my family and I had a blast! Another great party John,you sure
> know how to throw them :)
> Wanted to tell everyone thank you and that your all like a family
> too me, Thank you! Except Jim who posted the ramp scores...in my
> defence I was in my truck not my jeep...but I promise too do better
> next year in my Jeep :)
> Thanks again everyone, see ya soon
> Sharky
>
>
>
>
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>
>
95358 From: candace <bequietorillstop@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 9:06pm
Subject: jeep stereo
hi all
i have a 1996 jeep grand cherokee orvis edition with the infinity gold stereo system. i've located an amp under the back seat, driver's side. does anyone know if i can hook up my sub to it, or do i need a convertor and / or after-market amp?
much thanks,
c
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95359 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 9:19pm
Subject: Re: BBQ
My daughter, Delaney, and I had a great time. Talked to some new
friends I've made recently since arriving in AZ, and met more new
friendly folks whom I look forward to wheelin with soon.
I wish I could've brought the CJ-5 as I would've won the CJ-5 ramp
score (since there were no others listed! ). Unsure if I'd have
broken 1000 with the shocks connected.
Big thanks to John for hosting this and to all whose hard work put
this event together.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott G" <98tjgreen@c...> wrote:
> Just left the BBQ just wanted to say thanks to all who helped put
it
> together. We had a good time. FYI we left early in the stock green
TJ
> because my girlfriends daughter had to be at a recital by 5:45,
well
> there ready, time to go. Wish we could have stayed longer.
95360 From: <nufanman08@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 4:50pm
Subject: Steering help
I have a 4 cyl 93 YJ w/ manual steering, a 4 inch lift and 33's. I've always
had a lot of play in the steering wheel, but when I went to back out of the
drive way tonight, I could turn the wheel 2 complete turns each way before it
moves the wheels. Is this the steering box, or something else? How can I fix
it? Thanx
Mickey Hardt
93 YJ
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95361 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:06pm
Subject: BBQ!!!
I just got back to Havasu about 30 minutes ago and just wanted to
shout out to everyone and say that, once again, I had a blast!!!
Nothing beats great food, great people and AWESOME JEEPS!!! I
finally got to put faces with a lot of names, and most of all, I got
to meet Sharky!!! What a guy...Man, you'd hardly know that just a
few months back you were hurt as badly as you were...Way to show
those doctors up, man!!! Get that McNasty McWrangler on the trails
and come out to Havasu for the run in March!!!
I guess unofficially, I ramped an 890 (according to Rio). No one was
at the ramp and I went up right before the raffle, with Rio
measuring. Hey Rio, what was my distance?
PS-John (Hunter's)...You hosted a hell of a bash, but can't throw
worth a damn!!! LOL
Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
95362 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:13pm
Subject: [Tech] 87 YJ - Tranny clicking
I recently noticed that I have a clicking noise when transmission is in gear and the clutch is engaged. I hear it the loudest in 3rd gear but is present in others. Then the noise goes away as soon as I take it out of gear. The trans was rebuilt aprox 1.5 years ago but only has about 1300 miles since rebuild. Yes I do have the Peugeot and yes I did pay to have it rebuilt. Lesson learned.
Any ideas out there?
Mike Bossen
95363 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 5:17pm
Subject: Re: jeep stereo
I have a 98, the amp wont work with your sub, it really isnt that powerful
anyway. Your choices would be to splice into your speaker output wires and
take that the the high side inputs of your new amp -or- do what I am in the
process of doing, I got an aftermarket AM/FM/CASSETTE/CD-MP3 deck to replace my
Infinity. It has the RCA amp outputs. If you want to continue to use your
steering wheel radio controls make sure you buy a unit that has an IR remote,
then you can buy this neat little device from Crutchfield for abour $60 so
your steering wheel controls still work. The nice thing about the aftermarket
unit is I can now play MP3s that I make at home :-)
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95364 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:28pm
Subject: New Website address
I just rehosted my website. See link in the signature below.
John DeRuiter, WM7A
http://members.cox.net/wm7a/
95365 From: leonardpennock <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:50am
Subject: Re: Question
The head for a 4.2 is narrower than a 4.0, so you would have to do
some coolling passage work to put the 4.2 head on a 4.0.
The real question is why would you want to? The 4.2 head is a POS
when it comes to making power. The reason the 4.0 makes so much more
HP and torque than the 4.2 is the head.
Best thing to do is pick up the FI stuff for a HO and use that to
covert your 88 to FI. Then you will get the best of everything. If
you really want to run a carb, then Clifford makes 4 barrel manifold
for the 4.0 Head.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "juan2boneu" <juan2boneu@y...> wrote:
> I have a brand new engine that is for a 96-99, 4.0 engine. It will be
> going in a 88 wrangler that had a 4.2 engine. Can I swap the head out
> for a 88 . Will a 4.2 head fit on a 4.0 engine?? Can anyone help?
95366 From: george Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 6:25am
Subject: Fw: Steering help
The possibilities are many. With someone turning the steering wheel, look at the shaft which goes into the steering gear. Is it turning? Is is connected to the gear or is the "rag" joint failed? Is the output of the steering gear turning (i.e. is the pitman arm moving)? I so, what's the condition of the steering linkage connections? Is there so much play that it takes 2 turns on the steering wheel to turn the wheels?
My guess is:
1) rag joint is barely intact
2) steering gear is shot
3) linkage joints are shot
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee
'73 Wagoneer
'93 Grand Cherokee
'00 Wrangler
Avondale Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: nufanman08@a...
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:50 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Steering help
I have a 4 cyl 93 YJ w/ manual steering, a 4 inch lift and 33's. I've always
had a lot of play in the steering wheel, but when I went to back out of the
drive way tonight, I could turn the wheel 2 complete turns each way before it
moves the wheels. Is this the steering box, or something else? How can I fix
it? Thanx
Mickey Hardt
93 YJ
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95367 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 7:20am
Subject: Re: BBQ!!!
A huge big thanks to everyone involved to make this such a huge
event. Special thanks to John for putting it together. Nice to see
Sharky out and about. A big shout out to the jeepers I havent seen in
a while and to the new ones I met for the first time. The food was
great and so was the ramp. Got more work to do for next years RTI :o)
Thanks to everyone Jeff CamoXJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan
Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> I just got back to Havasu about 30 minutes ago and just wanted to
> shout out to everyone and say that, once again, I had a blast!!!
> Nothing beats great food, great people and AWESOME JEEPS!!! I
> finally got to put faces with a lot of names, and most of all, I
got
> to meet Sharky!!! What a guy...Man, you'd hardly know that just a
> few months back you were hurt as badly as you were...Way to show
> those doctors up, man!!! Get that McNasty McWrangler on the trails
> and come out to Havasu for the run in March!!!
>
> I guess unofficially, I ramped an 890 (according to Rio). No one
was
> at the ramp and I went up right before the raffle, with Rio
> measuring. Hey Rio, what was my distance?
>
> PS-John (Hunter's)...You hosted a hell of a bash, but can't throw
> worth a damn!!! LOL
>
> Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
> 97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
95368 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 7:33am
Subject: RE: [Tech] 87 YJ - Tranny clicking
The 3rd gear gear has a tooth chipped would be my guess. Remove the drain
plug and inspect the fluid. Metal pieces/chunks are bad. Tiny tiny bit of
metal shavings ok after first fluid change.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:13 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 87 YJ - Tranny clicking
I recently noticed that I have a clicking noise when transmission is in gear
and the clutch is engaged. I hear it the loudest in 3rd gear but is present
in others. Then the noise goes away as soon as I take it out of gear. The
trans was rebuilt aprox 1.5 years ago but only has about 1300 miles since
rebuild. Yes I do have the Peugeot and yes I did pay to have it rebuilt.
Lesson learned.
Any ideas out there?
Mike Bossen
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95369 From: jeepkad1 <jeepkad1@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 8:16am
Subject: Trip Report T4T Martinez & Box Canyon
As apart of the Toys for Tots runs Dec.6. a group of 7 took the
stroll back to Martinez Cabin and exited Box Canyon. We had a mix of
stock and modified vehicles, Wranglers, a Cherokee and 2 Rubicons.
After visting the stage coach depot and cave we had lunch at
Martinez Cabin. We then wheeled out of the area via Box Canyon.
Beautiful scenery and a fantastic group of jeepers! I beleive I
speak for everyone (at least I hope so) %{),when I say we had a
great time with a really good group of people! As this was the first
time I have led a trail run, I can only hope the future ones will be
as good! Thanks everyone for coming out. I have some pics (high
resolution), if you want some copies send me an e-mail at
jeepkad1@y....
Ken
95370 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 8:37am
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Lower) - Friday, December 5, 2003
Hello All,
Josh Reynolds lead a trail run Friday, December 5, 2003 across Terminator (Lower)
Great trip, Josh and Burt cleanly ran through terminator, who says you cant run these trails with 31's and open diffs? Some mild winching through some tippy spots but only mild body dammage to the team XJ.
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1117
Click the above link to View Pictures (if available)Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
95371 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 9:06am
Subject: Re: December 20th Sat 3.5-4.0 run???????
Maybe you mean Lower Raw Deal? That's in the 3.5 range.
I would recommend against running Lower Terminator with
30's and no locker or lift.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> Rob, not to rag on your XJ LOL but I think you want to keep it to a
> 3.5 max. 4.0 would tear the hell out of your XJ. I need to get out
> also but deer hunting starts the 12th and I am going to Benson to
> hunt (hopefully I'll get one the first weekend). Been itching for a
> good 3.5 run. Lower Terminator? Thats always a good one but need
> someone that knows the way and can lead. Been there once and had a
> blast, very challenging. I've got pics you can check out Rob if you
> want. Post it up and see if you can get someone to lead. I did it
> with 30's, no locker and I think no lift or 3" lift. You might want
> to shave that rear diff because I got hung up a few times on mine.
> Anywho, I'll see if i can make it, all depends on the deer :o) Jeff
> CamoXJ --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Hydrosense@a... wrote:
> > Any runs then? ,if not Lets go somewhere someone anyone
anywhere..
> this is
> > like the only day this month that I am clear to go, need a
*****in
> minimum of a
> > 3.0-4.0 rating. the more the marier wife has a friendcoming
> over that
> > day so I will leave early and come home late LOL
> > Lets gooooooooooooo Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ
95347 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:19pm
Subject: [TR] Coves of Saguaro Lake - Saturday, December 20, 2003
Hello All,Rob Bolin sr. is leading a Coves of Saguaro Lake trail run on Saturday, December 20, 2003.<br><br>When: Meet at 8:30-9:00am, Air down and take off around 9:30.
Where: Butcher Jones picnic area Saguaro lake.
Rating: 2.5+
Length: Till whenever
CB Channel: 4
A fun trail/s anywhere from 2.0 to 4.0+ rating so stock OHV's or full on rock buggies can enjoy.Lots of bypasses. Bring your own food and drink, games ,I'm bringin horseshoes.Basicly there's lots of trails out there so I will lead to the coves(for the first timers). I plan on doin a lot of wheelin and quite a bit of just loungin and relaxin If We can find a cove big enough to acomodate all of us. and just have a good time hangin out away from the city before christmas.come and go as you please theres a lot of trails out there so take your pick...I will be in a 2000 silver Jeep XJ w/3.5" lift and roof rack and lights.. C-ya there
At the Coves of Saguaro Lake, there are at least 4 coves to play in, on, and around. Many hill climbs provide a challenge to all levels of 4-Wheelers and vehicles.<br>
<br>
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95348 From: Mark S <azjeeptj@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:21pm
Subject: RE: BBQ
Hey,
Great BBQ, first time at a club meeting this large, had a great time.
Met some very nice folks and was able to get some good tips. The ramp
was cool and so was the snowman with the Grinch music, my kids loved
that! Thanks for Hunter Offroad for having it at his place.
Mark S
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott G [mailto:98tjgreen@c...]
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 5:32 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ
Just left the BBQ just wanted to say thanks to all who helped put it
together. We had a good time. FYI we left early in the stock green TJ
because my girlfriends daughter had to be at a recital by 5:45, well
there ready, time to go. Wish we could have stayed longer.
Scott G
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95349 From: Marty Escarcega <escarcega@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:29pm
Subject: FS: '89 I6 Engine and Auto Trans
1989 Jeep, carbureted Inline 6 Cylinder Engine and automatic
transmission. 68,000 actual maintained miles. Both the engine and the
transmission are still in the Jeep and can be heard run and driven.
Both are in very good condition! Upgrade your 2.5L 4 cylinder engine
or replace your tired 6 cylinder. $650 for the pair. Reason for
selling, impending upgrade to Vortec 4.3L V6.
Both are located in Mesa, AZ. If interested, email me,
escarcegaATcox.net
I will be trying to document the transformation of the wife's bone
stock, low mileage YJ on her web page in the coming months. Upgrades
to include, new paint, upgraded engine and overdrive transmission, 3"
Rough Country lift, 32" BFG Mud Terrains and wheels, new seat covers,
new tube bumpers and nerf bars....
95350 From: rolled1000 <rolled1@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:43pm
Subject: Re: trac loc disassembly question...
You need to spread the larger 2 gears apart using a peice of all
thread and 2 nuts. Put the all tread in where you took out the pin,
screw on the 2 nuts and put pressure on the gears . the smaller ones
should come out.
Terry
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Deschapelles <andrewrrdd@y...>
wrote:
> Hi all...
>
> I am in the process of disassembling my trac loc (dana 30) so that I
can inspect the clutch plates and decide whether or not to install a
brand new pack. I removed the pin retaining the spider gears
expecting the spider gears and thrust washers to just fall out... but
I cant budge them.
>
> Whats do I need to do to get them out? Are the Side Gears under
load from the clutches, thus pressing agains the Spider Gears? If so,
any tips as to getting them out?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Andrew
>
>
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95351 From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:52pm
Subject: New file uploaded to az_vjc
Hello,
This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the az_vjc
group.
File : /RTI Scores.xls
Uploaded by : hackle_2001 <hackle@q...>
Description : Ramp Scores 12-07-03
You can access this file at the URL
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc/files/RTI%20Scores.xls
To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit
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95352 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 6:56pm
Subject: Ramp Scores
These will be hard to read and I can not attach an excel file so I put the
excel file in the file section on Yahoo AZVJC.
I hope everyone had a good time.
Jim F.
First Name Last Name Vehicle Type Wheel Base Ramp Travel RTI
Brian Luse 42 Willy's MB 80 42 525.00
Link Blazer 106 98 924.53
Hunter buggy 118 100 847.46
Eric Griffin CJ-7 93.5 111 1187.17
Dan Siegel CJ-8 103.5 124 1198.07
Bellinger sammy 82 79 963.41
Frank Bell TJ 93.4 87 931.48
Eric Bellinger TJ 93.4 91.25 976.98
Bitcairs TJ 93.4 82.5 883.30
Folson TJ 93.4 95.5 1022.48
Rio Harbor TJ 93.4 101 1081.37
Himley TJ 93.4 96 1027.84
Dave Johnstone TJ 93.4 98 1049.25
Brad Kilgore TJ 93.4 115 1231.26
Jason LaLiberty TJ 93.4 116 1241.97
Brian Luse TJ 93.4 94 1006.42
Jason Merrill TJ 93.4 94 1006.42
Eric Nielsen TJ 93.4 92 985.01
Stu Olson TJ 93.4 94 1006.42
rerun brad TJ 93.4 122 1306.21
rerun jason TJ 93.4 114.5 1225.91
Brian Senska TJ 93.4 106.5 1140.26
Troy Silva TJ 93.4 88 942.18
Kent Warner TJ 93.4 87.5 936.83
Rick Beer XJ 101.4 91 897.44
Andrew Boughton XJ 101.4 86 848.13
Darly Byassee XJ 101.4 107 1055.23
Joe Daro XJ 101.4 88 867.85
Louis DeCamillo XJ 101.4 102.5 1010.85
Farthing XJ 101.4 83 818.54
Lafontain Xj 101.4 77 759.37
Rick Norman XJ 101.4 105.5 1040.43
Jeff Trujillo XJ 101.4 77 759.37
Wilson XJ 101.4 95 936.88
Jim Florence YJ 93.4 102 1092.08
Veronica Flynn YJ 93.4 57 610.28
Russ Gervater YJ 93.4 91 974.30
Joey Kulich YJ 93.4 64 685.22
Richard Logan YJ 102 104.5 1024.51
Scott Maiden YJ 93.4 97.5 1043.90
Nasser Pirshafiey YJ 93.4 114 1220.56
Roger Tomas YJ 93.4 86.5 926.12
Jodan Townsend YJ 93.4 66 706.64
Scott Wade YJ 93.4 85 910.06
Sue Beer ZJ 105.9 53 500.47
Rick Clarke ZJ 105.9 82 774.32
Sharky 133 54 406.02
Marv Springer 111 117.5 1058.56
Arizona RockRats President
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95353 From: Sharky <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 7:09pm
Subject: BBQ
Well my family and I had a blast! Another great party John,you sure
know how to throw them :)
Wanted to tell everyone thank you and that your all like a family
too me, Thank you! Except Jim who posted the ramp scores...in my
defence I was in my truck not my jeep...but I promise too do better
next year in my Jeep :)
Thanks again everyone, see ya soon
Sharky
95354 From: Eric Marcus <3timejeepin@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 7:17pm
Subject: bbq
Hey guys my first time out also to a club meeting, new member, I have a
great time and have found a lot of cool new products I am going to have
to get my hands on. I knew buying a jeep meant empty your pockets.
Anyways seems like really nice people and I cant wait to get out on the
trails and wheel with some of you guys. Thanks and have a great holiday.
Thanks,
Eric Marcus
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95355 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 7:54pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Ajax (Lower) - Saturday, December 6, 2003
Hello All,
Jeff Titus lead a trail run Saturday, December 6, 2003 across Ajax (Lower)
Was a great day (no wind) Just the right amount of Az sun. Great bunch of people to wheel with. We had a couple of newbees with us. It was fun watching them do the trail and not believe that their jeeps could do the stuff it was doin. They talked all day on the list of things that were going to do to there riggs. You all know what I'm talkin about (bin there done that).Only had minor damage. Jim Sanford some how got the side of his windshield and Nick got his fender flare in the back a little on his new Rubicon. The biggest problem we had is the trip leader(me)had a blow out of my pants at the crotch and I had no trail fixins for that so I had to do the rest of the run sportin a new look. :o) Thanks to Brandon for the pics on the run they look great. Thanks to Jeff and Katrina Titus for a great time for this Toys for Tots run. Hope to be bigger next year! Later, Steve J<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1108
Click the above link to View Pictures (if available)Thank You,
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95356 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Highway to Hell - Saturday, December 6, 2003
Hello All,
Jeff Titus lead a trail run Saturday, December 6, 2003 across Highway to Hell
Kevin Shaver and Vincent Ercolani showed up before we left camp so they joined right in and we all (6 rigs) took out for the trail. 3 of the group were virgin to H2H so it was fun to see them get through it. <br>
<br>
The XJ driven by James did VERY well----no broken glass! he was running 32's and LSD. his spotter, Chris was right on the whole way.<br>
<br>
Kevin did all the hard lines with his dynatrac 60's YJ.....well done TEAM YJ :)<br>
<br>
Vincent blew a brand new BFG right off the bat and he stuck his foot in the hole it was so big. he thrwe on the spare and was good to go. <br>
<br>
Eddie taco'd his tie-rod and we sleeved it....now stronger than the stock TJ for sure.<br>
<br>
Mark had his front driveshaft slip out on the undercut waterfall and twisted the splines. he ground them down and was back on the trail. nice fix Mark!<br>
<br>
Vincent's roobeecon tried to kill me when I was kindly wrapping his winch cable------jeep took to rolling downhill with me in front scramblin fer my life :) TEAM TJ trying to take out the opposition!<br>
<br>
We got out pretty late---sun setting and Vince calls on the radio-----his tie-rod dropped off. the bolt sheared off, so we welded it back on and headed for the pavement. rolled in after dark......<br>
<br>
Greatest weather EVER, just the right temp with no wind and sun all day. large moon at dark and just an AWESOME wheelin day.<br>
<br>
Thanks guys /gals for the great trip! and thanks to Jeff and Katrina Titus for the well organized Toys-for-Tots gig :)<br>
<br>
Rock ONNNNNNNNNN<br>
<br>
Steve Sample<br>
<br>
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95357 From: anthony <a_celaya@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 8:11pm
Subject: Re: BBQ
Hey sharky, it was good to see you and the family there. you've come a long
way down recovery lane, and let me just say, thanks for being at the BBQ. a
big shout out to John, another awesome BBQ, another awesome year, great job!
Anthony Celaya
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 8:09 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ
> Well my family and I had a blast! Another great party John,you sure
> know how to throw them :)
> Wanted to tell everyone thank you and that your all like a family
> too me, Thank you! Except Jim who posted the ramp scores...in my
> defence I was in my truck not my jeep...but I promise too do better
> next year in my Jeep :)
> Thanks again everyone, see ya soon
> Sharky
>
>
>
>
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>
>
95358 From: candace <bequietorillstop@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 9:06pm
Subject: jeep stereo
hi all
i have a 1996 jeep grand cherokee orvis edition with the infinity gold stereo system. i've located an amp under the back seat, driver's side. does anyone know if i can hook up my sub to it, or do i need a convertor and / or after-market amp?
much thanks,
c
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95359 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 9:19pm
Subject: Re: BBQ
My daughter, Delaney, and I had a great time. Talked to some new
friends I've made recently since arriving in AZ, and met more new
friendly folks whom I look forward to wheelin with soon.
I wish I could've brought the CJ-5 as I would've won the CJ-5 ramp
score (since there were no others listed! ). Unsure if I'd have
broken 1000 with the shocks connected.
Big thanks to John for hosting this and to all whose hard work put
this event together.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott G" <98tjgreen@c...> wrote:
> Just left the BBQ just wanted to say thanks to all who helped put
it
> together. We had a good time. FYI we left early in the stock green
TJ
> because my girlfriends daughter had to be at a recital by 5:45,
well
> there ready, time to go. Wish we could have stayed longer.
95360 From: <nufanman08@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 4:50pm
Subject: Steering help
I have a 4 cyl 93 YJ w/ manual steering, a 4 inch lift and 33's. I've always
had a lot of play in the steering wheel, but when I went to back out of the
drive way tonight, I could turn the wheel 2 complete turns each way before it
moves the wheels. Is this the steering box, or something else? How can I fix
it? Thanx
Mickey Hardt
93 YJ
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95361 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:06pm
Subject: BBQ!!!
I just got back to Havasu about 30 minutes ago and just wanted to
shout out to everyone and say that, once again, I had a blast!!!
Nothing beats great food, great people and AWESOME JEEPS!!! I
finally got to put faces with a lot of names, and most of all, I got
to meet Sharky!!! What a guy...Man, you'd hardly know that just a
few months back you were hurt as badly as you were...Way to show
those doctors up, man!!! Get that McNasty McWrangler on the trails
and come out to Havasu for the run in March!!!
I guess unofficially, I ramped an 890 (according to Rio). No one was
at the ramp and I went up right before the raffle, with Rio
measuring. Hey Rio, what was my distance?
PS-John (Hunter's)...You hosted a hell of a bash, but can't throw
worth a damn!!! LOL
Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
95362 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:13pm
Subject: [Tech] 87 YJ - Tranny clicking
I recently noticed that I have a clicking noise when transmission is in gear and the clutch is engaged. I hear it the loudest in 3rd gear but is present in others. Then the noise goes away as soon as I take it out of gear. The trans was rebuilt aprox 1.5 years ago but only has about 1300 miles since rebuild. Yes I do have the Peugeot and yes I did pay to have it rebuilt. Lesson learned.
Any ideas out there?
Mike Bossen
95363 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 5:17pm
Subject: Re: jeep stereo
I have a 98, the amp wont work with your sub, it really isnt that powerful
anyway. Your choices would be to splice into your speaker output wires and
take that the the high side inputs of your new amp -or- do what I am in the
process of doing, I got an aftermarket AM/FM/CASSETTE/CD-MP3 deck to replace my
Infinity. It has the RCA amp outputs. If you want to continue to use your
steering wheel radio controls make sure you buy a unit that has an IR remote,
then you can buy this neat little device from Crutchfield for abour $60 so
your steering wheel controls still work. The nice thing about the aftermarket
unit is I can now play MP3s that I make at home :-)
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95364 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@c...>
Date: Sun Dec 7, 2003 10:28pm
Subject: New Website address
I just rehosted my website. See link in the signature below.
John DeRuiter, WM7A
http://members.cox.net/wm7a/
95365 From: leonardpennock <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 5:50am
Subject: Re: Question
The head for a 4.2 is narrower than a 4.0, so you would have to do
some coolling passage work to put the 4.2 head on a 4.0.
The real question is why would you want to? The 4.2 head is a POS
when it comes to making power. The reason the 4.0 makes so much more
HP and torque than the 4.2 is the head.
Best thing to do is pick up the FI stuff for a HO and use that to
covert your 88 to FI. Then you will get the best of everything. If
you really want to run a carb, then Clifford makes 4 barrel manifold
for the 4.0 Head.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "juan2boneu" <juan2boneu@y...> wrote:
> I have a brand new engine that is for a 96-99, 4.0 engine. It will be
> going in a 88 wrangler that had a 4.2 engine. Can I swap the head out
> for a 88 . Will a 4.2 head fit on a 4.0 engine?? Can anyone help?
95366 From: george Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 6:25am
Subject: Fw: Steering help
The possibilities are many. With someone turning the steering wheel, look at the shaft which goes into the steering gear. Is it turning? Is is connected to the gear or is the "rag" joint failed? Is the output of the steering gear turning (i.e. is the pitman arm moving)? I so, what's the condition of the steering linkage connections? Is there so much play that it takes 2 turns on the steering wheel to turn the wheels?
My guess is:
1) rag joint is barely intact
2) steering gear is shot
3) linkage joints are shot
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee
'73 Wagoneer
'93 Grand Cherokee
'00 Wrangler
Avondale Arizona
----- Original Message -----
From: nufanman08@a...
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 10:50 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Steering help
I have a 4 cyl 93 YJ w/ manual steering, a 4 inch lift and 33's. I've always
had a lot of play in the steering wheel, but when I went to back out of the
drive way tonight, I could turn the wheel 2 complete turns each way before it
moves the wheels. Is this the steering box, or something else? How can I fix
it? Thanx
Mickey Hardt
93 YJ
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95367 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 7:20am
Subject: Re: BBQ!!!
A huge big thanks to everyone involved to make this such a huge
event. Special thanks to John for putting it together. Nice to see
Sharky out and about. A big shout out to the jeepers I havent seen in
a while and to the new ones I met for the first time. The food was
great and so was the ramp. Got more work to do for next years RTI :o)
Thanks to everyone Jeff CamoXJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan
Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> I just got back to Havasu about 30 minutes ago and just wanted to
> shout out to everyone and say that, once again, I had a blast!!!
> Nothing beats great food, great people and AWESOME JEEPS!!! I
> finally got to put faces with a lot of names, and most of all, I
got
> to meet Sharky!!! What a guy...Man, you'd hardly know that just a
> few months back you were hurt as badly as you were...Way to show
> those doctors up, man!!! Get that McNasty McWrangler on the trails
> and come out to Havasu for the run in March!!!
>
> I guess unofficially, I ramped an 890 (according to Rio). No one
was
> at the ramp and I went up right before the raffle, with Rio
> measuring. Hey Rio, what was my distance?
>
> PS-John (Hunter's)...You hosted a hell of a bash, but can't throw
> worth a damn!!! LOL
>
> Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
> 97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
95368 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 7:33am
Subject: RE: [Tech] 87 YJ - Tranny clicking
The 3rd gear gear has a tooth chipped would be my guess. Remove the drain
plug and inspect the fluid. Metal pieces/chunks are bad. Tiny tiny bit of
metal shavings ok after first fluid change.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 6:13 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 87 YJ - Tranny clicking
I recently noticed that I have a clicking noise when transmission is in gear
and the clutch is engaged. I hear it the loudest in 3rd gear but is present
in others. Then the noise goes away as soon as I take it out of gear. The
trans was rebuilt aprox 1.5 years ago but only has about 1300 miles since
rebuild. Yes I do have the Peugeot and yes I did pay to have it rebuilt.
Lesson learned.
Any ideas out there?
Mike Bossen
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95369 From: jeepkad1 <jeepkad1@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 8:16am
Subject: Trip Report T4T Martinez & Box Canyon
As apart of the Toys for Tots runs Dec.6. a group of 7 took the
stroll back to Martinez Cabin and exited Box Canyon. We had a mix of
stock and modified vehicles, Wranglers, a Cherokee and 2 Rubicons.
After visting the stage coach depot and cave we had lunch at
Martinez Cabin. We then wheeled out of the area via Box Canyon.
Beautiful scenery and a fantastic group of jeepers! I beleive I
speak for everyone (at least I hope so) %{),when I say we had a
great time with a really good group of people! As this was the first
time I have led a trail run, I can only hope the future ones will be
as good! Thanks everyone for coming out. I have some pics (high
resolution), if you want some copies send me an e-mail at
jeepkad1@y....
Ken
95370 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 8:37am
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Lower) - Friday, December 5, 2003
Hello All,
Josh Reynolds lead a trail run Friday, December 5, 2003 across Terminator (Lower)
Great trip, Josh and Burt cleanly ran through terminator, who says you cant run these trails with 31's and open diffs? Some mild winching through some tippy spots but only mild body dammage to the team XJ.
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1117
Click the above link to View Pictures (if available)Thank You,
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95371 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 8, 2003 9:06am
Subject: Re: December 20th Sat 3.5-4.0 run???????
Maybe you mean Lower Raw Deal? That's in the 3.5 range.
I would recommend against running Lower Terminator with
30's and no locker or lift.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> Rob, not to rag on your XJ LOL but I think you want to keep it to a
> 3.5 max. 4.0 would tear the hell out of your XJ. I need to get out
> also but deer hunting starts the 12th and I am going to Benson to
> hunt (hopefully I'll get one the first weekend). Been itching for a
> good 3.5 run. Lower Terminator? Thats always a good one but need
> someone that knows the way and can lead. Been there once and had a
> blast, very challenging. I've got pics you can check out Rob if you
> want. Post it up and see if you can get someone to lead. I did it
> with 30's, no locker and I think no lift or 3" lift. You might want
> to shave that rear diff because I got hung up a few times on mine.
> Anywho, I'll see if i can make it, all depends on the deer :o) Jeff
> CamoXJ --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Hydrosense@a... wrote:
> > Any runs then? ,if not Lets go somewhere someone anyone
anywhere..
> this is
> > like the only day this month that I am clear to go, need a
*****in
> minimum of a
> > 3.0-4.0 rating. the more the marier wife has a friendcoming
> over that
> > day so I will leave early and come home late LOL
> > Lets gooooooooooooo Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ