blooddrive
01-09-2004, 05:27 AM
95121-95145
95121 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:05am
Subject: Re: ARB leak
That's why I went with mechanical lockers...Who cares if it handles
funny on the road...Just takes some getting used to.
Dan
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "clintltravis" <clint_travis@m...>
wrote:
> I have a 97 TJ. When the front ARB airlocker is engaged air leaks
> from the breather tube. I assume the ARB seal is leaking. Sound
like
> the cause? Same thing happen right after it was first installed by
> FWS and I had them fixing under warranty.
>
> Can I replace this myself? I assume it involves removing the
carrier.
>
> If I have it done who can do it for me and what might it cost?
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95122 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:09am
Subject: RE: ARB leak
It could be one of two things. The air line inside the diff house or the seals. It is not hard to fix and yes you will need to remove the carrier. 4 Wheel supply carries all the repair parts you would need to fix it whether it is the line or the seals.
-----Original Message-----
From: clintltravis [mailto:clint_travis@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] ARB leak
I have a 97 TJ. When the front ARB airlocker is engaged air leaks
from the breather tube. I assume the ARB seal is leaking. Sound like
the cause? Same thing happen right after it was first installed by
FWS and I had them fixing under warranty.
Can I replace this myself? I assume it involves removing the carrier.
If I have it done who can do it for me and what might it cost?
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95123 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:11am
Subject: RE: Re: ARB leak
But mechanical lockers also like braking front axels when you are in the rocks and trying to turn hard at low speeds. Of course that is assuming you can even turn hard with a mechanical locker up front.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:05 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: ARB leak
That's why I went with mechanical lockers...Who cares if it handles
funny on the road...Just takes some getting used to.
Dan
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "clintltravis" <clint_travis@m...>
wrote:
> I have a 97 TJ. When the front ARB airlocker is engaged air leaks
> from the breather tube. I assume the ARB seal is leaking. Sound
like
> the cause? Same thing happen right after it was first installed by
> FWS and I had them fixing under warranty.
>
> Can I replace this myself? I assume it involves removing the
carrier.
>
> If I have it done who can do it for me and what might it cost?
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95124 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:15am
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
John,
I'll be out this weekend from Havasu and want to come out to the
BBQ...What do you want/need and how do I get there from 19th Ave and
Baseline?
Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> Howdy Everyone
>
> Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
>
> Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
>
> Reminder..
> * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
will be
> prizes for this.
> * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that
cant make
> the BBQ
> * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
everyone
> tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
> coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
around. To date, I
> have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is
better so
> everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good
list by now Last
> year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian
this year.
>
> New things.....
>
> I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the
ball with
> this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
cans. We can
> gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would
be good way
> to get some good press.
>
> Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
> If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please
let me
> know.
>
> Talk to everyone soon..
>
> Best Regards
> John k
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95125 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:26am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Yup, that's exactly what I meant ;)
:)
Fred
Dan Dennis wrote:
>No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
>your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck, etc...)
>
>Dan
>
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...> wrote:
>
>
>>I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's*
>>
>>
>title -
>
>
>>nevermind....
>>
>>Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's
>>
>>
>history?
>
>
>>Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
>>
>>
>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
>>>Check the title..
>>>
>>>:)
>>>
>>>
>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
>>>>
>>>>
>>>assume
>>>
>>>
>>>>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This has come up several times.
>>>>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Arizona.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>>>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>requirement
>
>
>>>>>for them
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>:)
>>>>>Fred
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>fenders and
>
>
>>>>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>some
>
>
>>>mud
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My .02
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>big
>
>
>>>>>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>people
>
>
>>>>>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
>>>>>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>the
>
>
>>>>>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>could
>
>
>>>>>>>be wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>did a
>
>
>>>>>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>with the
>
>
>>>>>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>neck into
>
>
>>>>>>>the wheel well in some way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>that will
>
>
>>>>>>>fold down rather then open out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>the PSC
>
>
>>>>>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Justin O.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
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95126 From: Mike <mike@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:51am
Subject: Re: Re: Toys for Tots
Thanks Matt.
I will contact you and figure out what day and time would work best to drop
these off.
-Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Toys for Tots
> I can run them out there for you, Mike. Still unsure if I'll be doing
> any runs or just dropping off toys, but I've got room for yours. Feel
> free to drop them by anytime as I'm here all day.
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> 3472 E Geronimo Ct.
> Gilbert
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mike@m...> wrote:
>
> > Anyone on the East side (Gilbert) willing to let me drop them off
> to you and
> > have you take them for me?
>
>
>
>
>
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>
95127 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:07pm
Subject: [TR] Terminator (Lower) - Friday, December 5, 2003
Hello All,Josh Reynolds is leading a Terminator (Lower) trail run on Friday, December 5, 2003.<br><br>When: 8:00 am
Where: table mesa air down spot
Rating: 4.5-
Length: 4-5 hours
CB Channel: 4
I want to run raw deal and then move over to terminator
Lower Terminator was the first of the Terminator Trails.<br>
<br>
You will find the infamous "White Line" and "Terminator" obstacles on this trail. While both spots certainly have the potential to "Terminate" your vehicle, they will definitely grab your attention.<br>
<br>
You will go over, around, straddle and tip on the rocks on this trail; you will find yourself off-camber and wonder why you're doing this, but will love it. It is an awesome trail with numerous play areas and very few bypasses.<br>
<br>
Clearance and Lockers are a must, 33" tires a minimum and experienced drivers a must.<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1117
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
95128 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:18pm
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Ummm, lemme see now, the first rule of holes is.... When you're in one,
STOP DIGGING! Guess I oughtta pay more attention to how deep I've dug mine
today. :-)
I also got the same message off-line from another VJC member. Dunno right
now what my title says - it's in my SD box at the bank. I'm not planning
on cutting my fenders, anyway - at least, not that radically.
OTOH, it *could* be argued that I should pay attention to the thread's
title, since it *does* say "_TJ_ rear fender cutting".... :-)
Anyway, I've learned some stuff about titles and the AZ laws regarding
mudflaps and such. To all who took the time to educate me, I say, Thank
you!
Dave
--- Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
> your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck, etc...)
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...> wrote:
> > I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's*
> title -
> > nevermind....
> >
> > Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's
> history?
> >
> > Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
> >
> >
> > --- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > > Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
> > > Check the title..
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Peterson wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
> > > assume
> > > >CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
> > > >
> > > >Dave
> > > >
> > > >--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>This has come up several times.
> > > >>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
> > > Arizona.
> > > >>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
> > > >>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard
> requirement
> > > >>for them
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>:)
> > > >>Fred
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave Peterson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>Another penny's worth....
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your
> fenders and
> > > >>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get
> some
> > > mud
> > > >>>flaps to hang on it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Dave
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>My .02
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running
> big
> > > >>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most
> people
> > > >>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
> > > >>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with
> the
> > > >>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I
> could
> > > >>>>be wrong.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic)
> did a
> > > >>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell
> with the
> > >
> > > >>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler
> neck into
> > >
> > > >>>>the wheel well in some way.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate
> that will
> > > >>>>fold down rather then open out.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe
> the PSC
> > >
> > > >>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Justin O.
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95129 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:41pm
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
:)
Fred
Dave Peterson wrote:
>Ummm, lemme see now, the first rule of holes is.... When you're in one,
>STOP DIGGING! Guess I oughtta pay more attention to how deep I've dug mine
>today. :-)
>
>I also got the same message off-line from another VJC member. Dunno right
>now what my title says - it's in my SD box at the bank. I'm not planning
>on cutting my fenders, anyway - at least, not that radically.
>
>OTOH, it *could* be argued that I should pay attention to the thread's
>title, since it *does* say "_TJ_ rear fender cutting".... :-)
>
>Anyway, I've learned some stuff about titles and the AZ laws regarding
>mudflaps and such. To all who took the time to educate me, I say, Thank
>you!
>
>Dave
>
>--- Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
>
>
>>No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
>>your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck, etc...)
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's*
>>>
>>>
>>title -
>>
>>
>>>nevermind....
>>>
>>>Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's
>>>
>>>
>>history?
>>
>>
>>>Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
>>>>Check the title..
>>>>
>>>>:)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>assume
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>This has come up several times.
>>>>>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>Arizona.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>>>>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>requirement
>>
>>
>>>>>>for them
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>Fred
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>fenders and
>>
>>
>>>>>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>some
>>
>>
>>>>mud
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My .02
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>big
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>people
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
>>>>>>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>could
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>be wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>did a
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>with the
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>neck into
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>the wheel well in some way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>that will
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>fold down rather then open out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>the PSC
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Justin O.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>
>
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95130 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
According to my Oregon title, my CJ is classified as a "JP"
Year 1979
Make JEP (only 3 chars)
Style JP
Model <null>
Wonder what Arizona's fender/mudflap rule is for me? :)
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
> your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck,
etc...)
95131 From: Mark S <azjeeptj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 1:23pm
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Put us down for a box of burgers, dogs, and buns.
Mark S
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant
make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around.
To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this
year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball
with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We
can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let
me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95132 From: S.R.D. <sreggiedavis@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 2:43pm
Subject: OT: Unemployed
I just got laid off today and my wife has been unemployed for a few
months. We live in Surprise. My wife is going to go for a job with
the Surprise PD in March, so she is covered but my situation was a
total surprise. If anyone has any job openings in Phoenix or the west
side I am interested. I was a stock broker, having worked for
Vanguard and USAA. Previous experience includes management at
Walgreen's, delivery/sales/promotions with a beer distributor,
working with VP of Legal/New business for DoubleTree Hotels, and
miscellaneous summer jobs during or just after high school.
I am looking for something that I can make a career of, but if you
have something temporary feel free to call.
Home (623)594-4858
Cell (623)826-9416
I am sorry for the OT post.
95133 From: <jhraya@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:18pm
Subject: AZVJC Stickers
Can someone (Joe West) tell me where you get your AZVJC stickers from?
Is there a member here that works for signxpressions?
I need a new source for our Club stickers? Any Suggestions?
TIA
Judy Raya
Tucson Rough Riders - Secretary
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95134 From: Brandon Sudeith <jeepinaz@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:25pm
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
My title (YJ) says sw = station wagon.
Brandon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
> Check the title..
>
> :)
95135 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:39pm
Subject: Toys for Tots - dropoff
Mike,
You can also bring them to my place, if I happen to be closer or more
convenient. I'm near Baseline and Recker.
Tom
Message: 15
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:58:41 -0700
From: "Mike" <mike@m...>
Subject: Toys for Tots
I can't make the run this year due to prior commitments, however I do
have
some gifts I would like to donate.
Anyone on the East side (Gilbert) willing to let me drop them off to
you and
have you take them for me?
Thanks,
-Mike Hoyt
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95136 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:41pm
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
FWIW, I'm the proud owner of a 1987 Jeep Wrangler 2dr Station Wagon
according to my title. So yes, it at least applies to YJ's as well.
Tom
Message: 16
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:16:42 -0700
From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
Check the title..
:)
Dave Peterson wrote:
>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
assume
>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>
>Dave
>
>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>
>
>>This has come up several times.
>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
Arizona.
>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
>>for them
>>
>>
>>:)
>>Fred
>>
>>
>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>
>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders
and
>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some
mud
>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>
>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>
>>>Dave
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95137 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:46pm
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
John I will bring two packs of Hamburgers, two packs of Buns and a large
pack of cheese.
I will also keep track of the ramp in an excel format so I can post the
results to the group. Looking forward to another great club get together.
Jim F. aka Hackle
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers, chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around. To
date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by now
Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be good
way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95138 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:49pm
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Good idea Sandee count me in to help Hunter. Jim F.
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:45 AM
To: hunteroffroad@a...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
I'll bring a large bowl of potato salad and macaroni
salad............... Sandee
ANOTHER ISSUE TO CONSIDER: I will supply a "donation pot" for
ORBA..................... This organization will truly be our salvation
regarding "SAVING OUR TRAILS AND ACCESS" but we must get our businesses
involved. They cannot continue joining in the Arizona fights if the
dealers and businesses won't support them. Hunter Off Road was the
first 4x4 business from Arizona to join ORBA last year but I know it's
sometimes hard for small businesses to scrape up the yearly dues......
so................... how about VJC helping Hunter with his ORBA dues?
A couple of dollars from everyone will quickly total his $1,000.00
membership.
Several of the ASA4WDC clubs are paying the ORBA dues for a local small
business membership. As individuals or clubs we cannot join ORBA but
there's nothing stating we cannot help support the small businesses near
and dear to us!
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant
make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around.
To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this
year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball
with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We
can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let
me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95139 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:53pm
Subject: Re: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
:)
Fred
Tom Jacobson wrote:
>FWIW, I'm the proud owner of a 1987 Jeep Wrangler 2dr Station Wagon
>according to my title. So yes, it at least applies to YJ's as well.
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:16:42 -0700
> From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
>Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
>
>Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
>Check the title..
>
>:)
>
>
>Dave Peterson wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
>>
>>
>assume
>
>
>>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>This has come up several times.
>>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
>>>
>>>
>Arizona.
>
>
>>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>for them
>>>
>>>
>>>:)
>>>Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>>
>>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders
>>>>
>>>>
>and
>
>
>>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some
>>>>
>>>>
>mud
>
>
>>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>>
>>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
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95140 From: rolled1000 <rolled1@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:54pm
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
We will bring some polish dogs,buns,kraught, and some of the worlds
best macaroni salad.
Terry & Paula
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "frankgreentj2000"
<frankgreentj2000@y...> wrote:
> I am going to bring a box of foam cups for everyone to use and also
> bring 3 bags of hamburgers from Costco. Also a couple of bags of
> buns. Also will be bringing a big batch of Potato Salad and
Deviled
> Eggs. See you all there.
> Frank B
> 98TJ
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> > Howdy Everyone
> >
> > Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
> >
> > Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new
things
> too....
> >
> > Reminder..
> > * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
> will be
> > prizes for this.
> > * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> > * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> > * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those
that
> cant make
> > the BBQ
> > * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
> everyone
> > tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs,
Burgers,
> chips,
> > coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
> around. To date, I
> > have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is
> better so
> > everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good
> list by now Last
> > year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian
> this year.
> >
> > New things.....
> >
> > I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the
> ball with
> > this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
> cans. We can
> > gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that
would
> be good way
> > to get some good press.
> >
> > Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to
the
> Raffle..
> > If you have business that you think folks can benifit from,
please
> let me
> > know.
> >
> > Talk to everyone soon..
> >
> > Best Regards
> > John k
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95141 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 4:12pm
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Count me in for a case of hambugers (LOL) and pkg of plates.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers, chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around. To
date, I have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better
so everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian
this year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be good
way to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95142 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 4:28pm
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Were bringing stuff also but dont know what yet :o) Also someone post
over on the undertakers and I'll do the XJ site as well. JEff CamoXJ--
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> Count me in for a case of hambugers (LOL) and pkg of plates.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
>
> Howdy Everyone
>
> Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
>
> Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
>
> Reminder..
> * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
will be
> prizes for this.
> * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that
cant make
> the BBQ
> * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
everyone
> tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
> coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
around. To
> date, I have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which
is better
> so everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good
list by
> now Last year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid
this agian
> this year.
>
> New things.....
>
> I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the
ball with
> this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
cans. We can
> gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would
be good
> way to get some good press.
>
> Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
>
> If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please
let me
> know.
>
> Talk to everyone soon..
>
> Best Regards
> John k
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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95143 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 4:39pm
Subject: [Tech] 2001 TJ - A little Advice for a new guy
I was reading a lot of the posts here and found all of them extremely helpful. I am new to the Jeep world and am shopping around for a lift kit but with so many names out there I am looking for some sound advice. A little background, I use my Jeep for regular driving but am also looking forward to hitting some "major" trails, I like rocks and I like Mud. I was eyeing a 4" Old Man Emu set, as I hear the four leaf spring design is were it's at and wanted to know if anyone is familiar with the Emu? I am also checking out the Rubicon 3.5 Super-Flex kit I did read a some posts here and read some good things about the Rubicon Kits. I am thinking about both of those with the Rancho 9000's. So I am kind stuck wondering if I should stick with one of those kits or if there is something better or more catered to my needs. If anyone can lend some advice It would be most appreciated I'm a little stuck. Any other advice about extra accessories I may need would be a lot of help. I would love to be able to get it right the first time. I know I have to get the Slip Yoke Eliminator, and I should get the SwayBar disconnects but anything else I'm missing here would be great advice. Like I said I am knew to this and don’t want to screw it up.
Thanks
Victor
victor Vrba
95144 From: CANT W8 <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 4:47pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2001 TJ - A little Advice for a new guy
Victor,
Check with Jason LaLiberty at WWW.4X4groupbuy.com - 602-595-5739. He
sells all the kits (and uses them too) and he can tell you what you
will need and probably get the best price on it for you. He is a
AZVJC member too. He IS Good People!
Good Luck,
Bob
74 CJ-5 (with leaf springs)
(PS, I really don't think that you want to trade in your coil springs
for leaf springs, do you? hehehe)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
> I was reading a lot of the posts here and found all of them
extremely helpful. I am new to the Jeep world and am shopping around
for a lift kit but with so many names out there I am looking for some
sound advice. A little background, I use my Jeep for regular driving
but am also looking forward to hitting some "major" trails, I like
rocks and I like Mud. I was eyeing a 4" Old Man Emu set, as I hear the
four leaf spring design is were it's at and wanted to know if anyone
is familiar with the Emu? I am also checking out the Rubicon 3.5
Super-Flex kit I did read a some posts here and read some good things
about the Rubicon Kits. I am thinking about both of those with the
Rancho 9000's. So I am kind stuck wondering if I should stick with one
of those kits or if there is something better or more catered to my
needs. If anyone can lend some advice It would be most appreciated I'm
a little stuck. Any other advice about extra accessories I may need
would be a lot of help. I would love to be able to get it right the
first time. I know I have to get the Slip Yoke Eliminator, and I
should get the SwayBar disconnects but anything else I'm missing here
would be great advice. Like I said I am knew to this and don't want to
screw it up.
>
> Thanks
> Victor
>
>
> victor Vrba
95145 From: blueazjeep <blueazjeep@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 5:17pm
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
John, I will bring some soda, chips and a cooler. LET ME KNOW IF YOU
NEED SOMETHING ELSE!
Greg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
> >
> > Howdy Everyone
> >
> > Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
> >
> > Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new
things
> too....
> >
> > Reminder..
> > * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
> will be
> > prizes for this.
> > * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> > * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> > * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those
that
> cant make
> > the BBQ
> > * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
> everyone
> > tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs,
Burgers,
> chips,
> > coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
> around. To
> > date, I have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club,
which
> is better
> > so everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a
good
> list by
> > now Last year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid
> this agian
> > this year.
> >
> > New things.....
> >
> > I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take
the
> ball with
> > this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
> cans. We can
> > gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that
would
> be good
> > way to get some good press.
> >
> > Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to
the
> Raffle..
> >
> > If you have business that you think folks can benifit from,
please
> let me
> > know.
> >
> > Talk to everyone soon..
> >
> > Best Regards
> > John k
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
95121 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:05am
Subject: Re: ARB leak
That's why I went with mechanical lockers...Who cares if it handles
funny on the road...Just takes some getting used to.
Dan
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "clintltravis" <clint_travis@m...>
wrote:
> I have a 97 TJ. When the front ARB airlocker is engaged air leaks
> from the breather tube. I assume the ARB seal is leaking. Sound
like
> the cause? Same thing happen right after it was first installed by
> FWS and I had them fixing under warranty.
>
> Can I replace this myself? I assume it involves removing the
carrier.
>
> If I have it done who can do it for me and what might it cost?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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95122 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:09am
Subject: RE: ARB leak
It could be one of two things. The air line inside the diff house or the seals. It is not hard to fix and yes you will need to remove the carrier. 4 Wheel supply carries all the repair parts you would need to fix it whether it is the line or the seals.
-----Original Message-----
From: clintltravis [mailto:clint_travis@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:01 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] ARB leak
I have a 97 TJ. When the front ARB airlocker is engaged air leaks
from the breather tube. I assume the ARB seal is leaking. Sound like
the cause? Same thing happen right after it was first installed by
FWS and I had them fixing under warranty.
Can I replace this myself? I assume it involves removing the carrier.
If I have it done who can do it for me and what might it cost?
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95123 From: Siade, Randy <randy.siade@u...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:11am
Subject: RE: Re: ARB leak
But mechanical lockers also like braking front axels when you are in the rocks and trying to turn hard at low speeds. Of course that is assuming you can even turn hard with a mechanical locker up front.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Dennis [mailto:dannpegg@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 12:05 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: ARB leak
That's why I went with mechanical lockers...Who cares if it handles
funny on the road...Just takes some getting used to.
Dan
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "clintltravis" <clint_travis@m...>
wrote:
> I have a 97 TJ. When the front ARB airlocker is engaged air leaks
> from the breather tube. I assume the ARB seal is leaking. Sound
like
> the cause? Same thing happen right after it was first installed by
> FWS and I had them fixing under warranty.
>
> Can I replace this myself? I assume it involves removing the
carrier.
>
> If I have it done who can do it for me and what might it cost?
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
95124 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:15am
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
John,
I'll be out this weekend from Havasu and want to come out to the
BBQ...What do you want/need and how do I get there from 19th Ave and
Baseline?
Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> Howdy Everyone
>
> Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
>
> Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
>
> Reminder..
> * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
will be
> prizes for this.
> * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that
cant make
> the BBQ
> * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
everyone
> tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
> coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
around. To date, I
> have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is
better so
> everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good
list by now Last
> year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian
this year.
>
> New things.....
>
> I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the
ball with
> this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
cans. We can
> gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would
be good way
> to get some good press.
>
> Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
> If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please
let me
> know.
>
> Talk to everyone soon..
>
> Best Regards
> John k
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95125 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:26am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Yup, that's exactly what I meant ;)
:)
Fred
Dan Dennis wrote:
>No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
>your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck, etc...)
>
>Dan
>
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...> wrote:
>
>
>>I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's*
>>
>>
>title -
>
>
>>nevermind....
>>
>>Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's
>>
>>
>history?
>
>
>>Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
>>
>>
>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
>>>Check the title..
>>>
>>>:)
>>>
>>>
>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
>>>>
>>>>
>>>assume
>>>
>>>
>>>>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This has come up several times.
>>>>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Arizona.
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>>>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard
>>>>>
>>>>>
>requirement
>
>
>>>>>for them
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>:)
>>>>>Fred
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>fenders and
>
>
>>>>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>some
>
>
>>>mud
>>>
>>>
>>>>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My .02
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>big
>
>
>>>>>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>people
>
>
>>>>>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
>>>>>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>the
>
>
>>>>>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>could
>
>
>>>>>>>be wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>did a
>
>
>>>>>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>with the
>
>
>>>>>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>neck into
>
>
>>>>>>>the wheel well in some way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>that will
>
>
>>>>>>>fold down rather then open out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>the PSC
>
>
>>>>>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Justin O.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>
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95126 From: Mike <mike@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:51am
Subject: Re: Re: Toys for Tots
Thanks Matt.
I will contact you and figure out what day and time would work best to drop
these off.
-Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 11:19 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Toys for Tots
> I can run them out there for you, Mike. Still unsure if I'll be doing
> any runs or just dropping off toys, but I've got room for yours. Feel
> free to drop them by anytime as I'm here all day.
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> 3472 E Geronimo Ct.
> Gilbert
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mike@m...> wrote:
>
> > Anyone on the East side (Gilbert) willing to let me drop them off
> to you and
> > have you take them for me?
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
95127 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:07pm
Subject: [TR] Terminator (Lower) - Friday, December 5, 2003
Hello All,Josh Reynolds is leading a Terminator (Lower) trail run on Friday, December 5, 2003.<br><br>When: 8:00 am
Where: table mesa air down spot
Rating: 4.5-
Length: 4-5 hours
CB Channel: 4
I want to run raw deal and then move over to terminator
Lower Terminator was the first of the Terminator Trails.<br>
<br>
You will find the infamous "White Line" and "Terminator" obstacles on this trail. While both spots certainly have the potential to "Terminate" your vehicle, they will definitely grab your attention.<br>
<br>
You will go over, around, straddle and tip on the rocks on this trail; you will find yourself off-camber and wonder why you're doing this, but will love it. It is an awesome trail with numerous play areas and very few bypasses.<br>
<br>
Clearance and Lockers are a must, 33" tires a minimum and experienced drivers a must.<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1117
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
95128 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:18pm
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Ummm, lemme see now, the first rule of holes is.... When you're in one,
STOP DIGGING! Guess I oughtta pay more attention to how deep I've dug mine
today. :-)
I also got the same message off-line from another VJC member. Dunno right
now what my title says - it's in my SD box at the bank. I'm not planning
on cutting my fenders, anyway - at least, not that radically.
OTOH, it *could* be argued that I should pay attention to the thread's
title, since it *does* say "_TJ_ rear fender cutting".... :-)
Anyway, I've learned some stuff about titles and the AZ laws regarding
mudflaps and such. To all who took the time to educate me, I say, Thank
you!
Dave
--- Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
> your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck, etc...)
>
> Dan
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...> wrote:
> > I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's*
> title -
> > nevermind....
> >
> > Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's
> history?
> >
> > Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
> >
> >
> > --- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > > Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
> > > Check the title..
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Dave Peterson wrote:
> > >
> > > >Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
> > > assume
> > > >CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
> > > >
> > > >Dave
> > > >
> > > >--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>This has come up several times.
> > > >>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
> > > Arizona.
> > > >>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
> > > >>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard
> requirement
> > > >>for them
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>:)
> > > >>Fred
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>Dave Peterson wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>>Another penny's worth....
> > > >>>
> > > >>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your
> fenders and
> > > >>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get
> some
> > > mud
> > > >>>flaps to hang on it.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
> > > >>>
> > > >>>Dave
> > > >>>
> > > >>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>My .02
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running
> big
> > > >>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most
> people
> > > >>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
> > > >>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with
> the
> > > >>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I
> could
> > > >>>>be wrong.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic)
> did a
> > > >>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell
> with the
> > >
> > > >>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler
> neck into
> > >
> > > >>>>the wheel well in some way.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate
> that will
> > > >>>>fold down rather then open out.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe
> the PSC
> > >
> > > >>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>Justin O.
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95129 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:41pm
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
:)
Fred
Dave Peterson wrote:
>Ummm, lemme see now, the first rule of holes is.... When you're in one,
>STOP DIGGING! Guess I oughtta pay more attention to how deep I've dug mine
>today. :-)
>
>I also got the same message off-line from another VJC member. Dunno right
>now what my title says - it's in my SD box at the bank. I'm not planning
>on cutting my fenders, anyway - at least, not that radically.
>
>OTOH, it *could* be argued that I should pay attention to the thread's
>title, since it *does* say "_TJ_ rear fender cutting".... :-)
>
>Anyway, I've learned some stuff about titles and the AZ laws regarding
>mudflaps and such. To all who took the time to educate me, I say, Thank
>you!
>
>Dave
>
>--- Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
>
>
>>No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
>>your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck, etc...)
>>
>>Dan
>>
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's*
>>>
>>>
>>title -
>>
>>
>>>nevermind....
>>>
>>>Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's
>>>
>>>
>>history?
>>
>>
>>>Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
>>>
>>>
>>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
>>>>Check the title..
>>>>
>>>>:)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>assume
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>This has come up several times.
>>>>>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>Arizona.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>>>>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>requirement
>>
>>
>>>>>>for them
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>:)
>>>>>>Fred
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>fenders and
>>
>>
>>>>>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>some
>>
>>
>>>>mud
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My .02
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>big
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>people
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
>>>>>>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>the
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>could
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>be wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>did a
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>with the
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>neck into
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>the wheel well in some way.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>that will
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>fold down rather then open out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>the PSC
>>
>>
>>>>>>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Justin O.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>
>
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95130 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
According to my Oregon title, my CJ is classified as a "JP"
Year 1979
Make JEP (only 3 chars)
Style JP
Model <null>
Wonder what Arizona's fender/mudflap rule is for me? :)
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dan Dennis" <dannpegg@c...> wrote:
> No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
> your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck,
etc...)
95131 From: Mark S <azjeeptj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 1:23pm
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Put us down for a box of burgers, dogs, and buns.
Mark S
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant
make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around.
To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this
year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball
with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We
can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let
me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95132 From: S.R.D. <sreggiedavis@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 2:43pm
Subject: OT: Unemployed
I just got laid off today and my wife has been unemployed for a few
months. We live in Surprise. My wife is going to go for a job with
the Surprise PD in March, so she is covered but my situation was a
total surprise. If anyone has any job openings in Phoenix or the west
side I am interested. I was a stock broker, having worked for
Vanguard and USAA. Previous experience includes management at
Walgreen's, delivery/sales/promotions with a beer distributor,
working with VP of Legal/New business for DoubleTree Hotels, and
miscellaneous summer jobs during or just after high school.
I am looking for something that I can make a career of, but if you
have something temporary feel free to call.
Home (623)594-4858
Cell (623)826-9416
I am sorry for the OT post.
95133 From: <jhraya@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:18pm
Subject: AZVJC Stickers
Can someone (Joe West) tell me where you get your AZVJC stickers from?
Is there a member here that works for signxpressions?
I need a new source for our Club stickers? Any Suggestions?
TIA
Judy Raya
Tucson Rough Riders - Secretary
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95134 From: Brandon Sudeith <jeepinaz@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:25pm
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
My title (YJ) says sw = station wagon.
Brandon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
> Check the title..
>
> :)
95135 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:39pm
Subject: Toys for Tots - dropoff
Mike,
You can also bring them to my place, if I happen to be closer or more
convenient. I'm near Baseline and Recker.
Tom
Message: 15
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:58:41 -0700
From: "Mike" <mike@m...>
Subject: Toys for Tots
I can't make the run this year due to prior commitments, however I do
have
some gifts I would like to donate.
Anyone on the East side (Gilbert) willing to let me drop them off to
you and
have you take them for me?
Thanks,
-Mike Hoyt
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95136 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:41pm
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
FWIW, I'm the proud owner of a 1987 Jeep Wrangler 2dr Station Wagon
according to my title. So yes, it at least applies to YJ's as well.
Tom
Message: 16
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:16:42 -0700
From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
Check the title..
:)
Dave Peterson wrote:
>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
assume
>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>
>Dave
>
>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>
>
>>This has come up several times.
>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
Arizona.
>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
>>for them
>>
>>
>>:)
>>Fred
>>
>>
>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>
>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders
and
>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some
mud
>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>
>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>
>>>Dave
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95137 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:46pm
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
John I will bring two packs of Hamburgers, two packs of Buns and a large
pack of cheese.
I will also keep track of the ramp in an excel format so I can post the
results to the group. Looking forward to another great club get together.
Jim F. aka Hackle
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers, chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around. To
date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by now
Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be good
way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95138 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:49pm
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Good idea Sandee count me in to help Hunter. Jim F.
Arizona RockRats President
http://www.rockrats.org/
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 10:45 AM
To: hunteroffroad@a...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
I'll bring a large bowl of potato salad and macaroni
salad............... Sandee
ANOTHER ISSUE TO CONSIDER: I will supply a "donation pot" for
ORBA..................... This organization will truly be our salvation
regarding "SAVING OUR TRAILS AND ACCESS" but we must get our businesses
involved. They cannot continue joining in the Arizona fights if the
dealers and businesses won't support them. Hunter Off Road was the
first 4x4 business from Arizona to join ORBA last year but I know it's
sometimes hard for small businesses to scrape up the yearly dues......
so................... how about VJC helping Hunter with his ORBA dues?
A couple of dollars from everyone will quickly total his $1,000.00
membership.
Several of the ASA4WDC clubs are paying the ORBA dues for a local small
business membership. As individuals or clubs we cannot join ORBA but
there's nothing stating we cannot help support the small businesses near
and dear to us!
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant
make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around.
To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this
year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball
with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We
can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let
me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95139 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:53pm
Subject: Re: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
:)
Fred
Tom Jacobson wrote:
>FWIW, I'm the proud owner of a 1987 Jeep Wrangler 2dr Station Wagon
>according to my title. So yes, it at least applies to YJ's as well.
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 11:16:42 -0700
> From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
>Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
>
>Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
>Check the title..
>
>:)
>
>
>Dave Peterson wrote:
>
>
>
>>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
>>
>>
>assume
>
>
>>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>This has come up several times.
>>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
>>>
>>>
>Arizona.
>
>
>>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>>>for them
>>>
>>>
>>>:)
>>>Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>>
>>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders
>>>>
>>>>
>and
>
>
>>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some
>>>>
>>>>
>mud
>
>
>>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>>
>>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
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95140 From: rolled1000 <rolled1@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 3:54pm
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
We will bring some polish dogs,buns,kraught, and some of the worlds
best macaroni salad.
Terry & Paula
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "frankgreentj2000"
<frankgreentj2000@y...> wrote:
> I am going to bring a box of foam cups for everyone to use and also
> bring 3 bags of hamburgers from Costco. Also a couple of bags of
> buns. Also will be bringing a big batch of Potato Salad and
Deviled
> Eggs. See you all there.
> Frank B
> 98TJ
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> > Howdy Everyone
> >
> > Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
> >
> > Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new
things
> too....
> >
> > Reminder..
> > * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
> will be
> > prizes for this.
> > * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> > * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> > * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those
that
> cant make
> > the BBQ
> > * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
> everyone
> > tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs,
Burgers,
> chips,
> > coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
> around. To date, I
> > have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is
> better so
> > everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good
> list by now Last
> > year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian
> this year.
> >
> > New things.....
> >
> > I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the
> ball with
> > this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
> cans. We can
> > gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that
would
> be good way
> > to get some good press.
> >
> > Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to
the
> Raffle..
> > If you have business that you think folks can benifit from,
please
> let me
> > know.
> >
> > Talk to everyone soon..
> >
> > Best Regards
> > John k
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95141 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 4:12pm
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Count me in for a case of hambugers (LOL) and pkg of plates.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers, chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around. To
date, I have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better
so everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian
this year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be good
way to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95142 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 4:28pm
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Were bringing stuff also but dont know what yet :o) Also someone post
over on the undertakers and I'll do the XJ site as well. JEff CamoXJ--
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> Count me in for a case of hambugers (LOL) and pkg of plates.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
>
> Howdy Everyone
>
> Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
>
> Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
>
> Reminder..
> * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
will be
> prizes for this.
> * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that
cant make
> the BBQ
> * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
everyone
> tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
> coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
around. To
> date, I have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which
is better
> so everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good
list by
> now Last year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid
this agian
> this year.
>
> New things.....
>
> I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the
ball with
> this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
cans. We can
> gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would
be good
> way to get some good press.
>
> Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
>
> If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please
let me
> know.
>
> Talk to everyone soon..
>
> Best Regards
> John k
>
>
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>
>
>
>
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95143 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 4:39pm
Subject: [Tech] 2001 TJ - A little Advice for a new guy
I was reading a lot of the posts here and found all of them extremely helpful. I am new to the Jeep world and am shopping around for a lift kit but with so many names out there I am looking for some sound advice. A little background, I use my Jeep for regular driving but am also looking forward to hitting some "major" trails, I like rocks and I like Mud. I was eyeing a 4" Old Man Emu set, as I hear the four leaf spring design is were it's at and wanted to know if anyone is familiar with the Emu? I am also checking out the Rubicon 3.5 Super-Flex kit I did read a some posts here and read some good things about the Rubicon Kits. I am thinking about both of those with the Rancho 9000's. So I am kind stuck wondering if I should stick with one of those kits or if there is something better or more catered to my needs. If anyone can lend some advice It would be most appreciated I'm a little stuck. Any other advice about extra accessories I may need would be a lot of help. I would love to be able to get it right the first time. I know I have to get the Slip Yoke Eliminator, and I should get the SwayBar disconnects but anything else I'm missing here would be great advice. Like I said I am knew to this and don’t want to screw it up.
Thanks
Victor
victor Vrba
95144 From: CANT W8 <rlpii@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 4:47pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2001 TJ - A little Advice for a new guy
Victor,
Check with Jason LaLiberty at WWW.4X4groupbuy.com - 602-595-5739. He
sells all the kits (and uses them too) and he can tell you what you
will need and probably get the best price on it for you. He is a
AZVJC member too. He IS Good People!
Good Luck,
Bob
74 CJ-5 (with leaf springs)
(PS, I really don't think that you want to trade in your coil springs
for leaf springs, do you? hehehe)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...> wrote:
> I was reading a lot of the posts here and found all of them
extremely helpful. I am new to the Jeep world and am shopping around
for a lift kit but with so many names out there I am looking for some
sound advice. A little background, I use my Jeep for regular driving
but am also looking forward to hitting some "major" trails, I like
rocks and I like Mud. I was eyeing a 4" Old Man Emu set, as I hear the
four leaf spring design is were it's at and wanted to know if anyone
is familiar with the Emu? I am also checking out the Rubicon 3.5
Super-Flex kit I did read a some posts here and read some good things
about the Rubicon Kits. I am thinking about both of those with the
Rancho 9000's. So I am kind stuck wondering if I should stick with one
of those kits or if there is something better or more catered to my
needs. If anyone can lend some advice It would be most appreciated I'm
a little stuck. Any other advice about extra accessories I may need
would be a lot of help. I would love to be able to get it right the
first time. I know I have to get the Slip Yoke Eliminator, and I
should get the SwayBar disconnects but anything else I'm missing here
would be great advice. Like I said I am knew to this and don't want to
screw it up.
>
> Thanks
> Victor
>
>
> victor Vrba
95145 From: blueazjeep <blueazjeep@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 5:17pm
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
John, I will bring some soda, chips and a cooler. LET ME KNOW IF YOU
NEED SOMETHING ELSE!
Greg
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
> >
> > Howdy Everyone
> >
> > Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
> >
> > Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new
things
> too....
> >
> > Reminder..
> > * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
> will be
> > prizes for this.
> > * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> > * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> > * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those
that
> cant make
> > the BBQ
> > * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
> everyone
> > tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs,
Burgers,
> chips,
> > coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
> around. To
> > date, I have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club,
which
> is better
> > so everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a
good
> list by
> > now Last year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid
> this agian
> > this year.
> >
> > New things.....
> >
> > I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take
the
> ball with
> > this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
> cans. We can
> > gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that
would
> be good
> > way to get some good press.
> >
> > Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to
the
> Raffle..
> >
> > If you have business that you think folks can benifit from,
please
> let me
> > know.
> >
> > Talk to everyone soon..
> >
> > Best Regards
> > John k
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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