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95096 From: Rio Harbour <rioshilo@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 7:09pm
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Fred, I used an air powered cutoff wheel. Smoothed it out with a
flap wheel. I'm looking for a plasma cutter though. Gonna get down and
dirty... Fabricationally speaking. Is that a word? LOL
Rio
Fred Wilson wrote:
> Looks good..
> What did you use for the cutting ??
>
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> Fred
>
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> Rio Harbour wrote:
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>>Those are mine. I originally cut the rear wheel wells up to fit the
>>35's with 3" of lift. I cut right up to the bottom of the inner wheel
>>tub. Leaving the pinch welds intact. Here is a picture of that.
>>
>>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/old%20fender%20cut.JPG
>>
>>You can see that the rear angle matches the front angle. I then changed
>>it because I got tired of tagging the bottom of my corners on rocks. I
>>didn't want to make one of those wrap around bumpers because of the loss
>>of clearance. So... I made a really short rear bumper and cut the
>>corners down to match. Now there is nothing back there to catch. It
>>still looks the same now as it did in Freds picture, only I went back to
>>black. Here are some more recent pictures
>>
>>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/urban%20wheeling1.JPG
>>
>>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/urban%20wheeling2.JPG
>>
>>When I extend my wheelbase I will cut it comp style, and put a fuel cell
>>in the back.
>>
>>
>>Rio
>>
>>
>>
>>Fred Wilson wrote:
>>
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>>>Why would you trim the rear fenders (A Lot !!) ??
>>>Just don't cut 'em as much.
>>>Here's a photo of someone on this list (sorry, don't know who it is),
>>>that did what I'm talking about.
>>>
>>>http://fredtj.com/images/photos/rear_cutout/m5.JPG
>>>
>>>
>>>:)
>>>Fred
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>Dan Dennis wrote:
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>>>>I've been thinking, since Fred posted up the info on his front tube
>>>>fenders on his TJ, about doing the same to BRUZR and going a step
>>>>further...Trimming the rear fenders (A LOT!!!) I was thinking,
>>>>though, "Where would I relocate my gas filler?" Check out the link
>>>>below to see what I'm thinking about doing and give me some
>>>>suggestions...Remember, if I have my top on, I still need to access
>>>>it and I have a 2 1/2 year old that regularly rides with me, so in
>>>>cab doesn't work (fumes?)...
>>>>
>>>>http://www.citlink.net/~dannpegg/links_files/Comp_cut.jpg
>>>>
>>>>TIA,
>>>>Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
>>>>97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
>>>>
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95097 From: jason la montagne <jalamontag@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 6:26pm
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Funny Short Movie
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95098 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 5:55pm
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Looks good..
What did you use for the cutting ??
Fred
Rio Harbour wrote:
>Those are mine. I originally cut the rear wheel wells up to fit the
>35's with 3" of lift. I cut right up to the bottom of the inner wheel
>tub. Leaving the pinch welds intact. Here is a picture of that.
>
>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/old%20fender%20cut.JPG
>
>You can see that the rear angle matches the front angle. I then changed
>it because I got tired of tagging the bottom of my corners on rocks. I
>didn't want to make one of those wrap around bumpers because of the loss
>of clearance. So... I made a really short rear bumper and cut the
>corners down to match. Now there is nothing back there to catch. It
>still looks the same now as it did in Freds picture, only I went back to
>black. Here are some more recent pictures
>
>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/urban%20wheeling1.JPG
>
>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/urban%20wheeling2.JPG
>
>When I extend my wheelbase I will cut it comp style, and put a fuel cell
>in the back.
>
>
>Rio
>
>
>
>Fred Wilson wrote:
>
>
>
>>Why would you trim the rear fenders (A Lot !!) ??
>>Just don't cut 'em as much.
>>Here's a photo of someone on this list (sorry, don't know who it is),
>>that did what I'm talking about.
>>
>>http://fredtj.com/images/photos/rear_cutout/m5.JPG
>>
>>
>>:)
>>Fred
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Dan Dennis wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've been thinking, since Fred posted up the info on his front tube
>>>fenders on his TJ, about doing the same to BRUZR and going a step
>>>further...Trimming the rear fenders (A LOT!!!) I was thinking,
>>>though, "Where would I relocate my gas filler?" Check out the link
>>>below to see what I'm thinking about doing and give me some
>>>suggestions...Remember, if I have my top on, I still need to access
>>>it and I have a 2 1/2 year old that regularly rides with me, so in
>>>cab doesn't work (fumes?)...
>>>
>>>http://www.citlink.net/~dannpegg/links_files/Comp_cut.jpg
>>>
>>>TIA,
>>>Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
>>>97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
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95099 From: jason la montagne <jalamontag@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 8:17pm
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Funny Short Movie
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95100 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 9:08pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2000 4.0 TJ - 700 R4/Avenger Supercharger install/don...
Cool! I'd like to see those. The engine going in the Willys is already
set up pretty much the same way the Dodge Cummins are. Those wagon
engine compartments are actually pretty roomy.
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, rokkcrawler@a... wrote:
> LInda, I saw a Turbocharger and a Supercharger both on two ZJs last
year.
> One was on a 5.2 and the other on a 5.9. The SC on the 5.9 made it
a real
> screamer. I would think he went with the Supercharger as they will
work at all
> RPMS. The Turbo usually only works at 3000 rpm and above or at
full throttle
> depending on the model.
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95101 From: Katrina and Jeff <katnjeff4@h...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 9:10pm
Subject: T4T Run Info. Where and When....
OK ALL THIS IS THE DEAL, WE WILL MEET AT THE ENTRANCE OF COTTONWOOD
CANYON RD.THERE IS A BIG OPEN AREA NEXT TO THE ROAD AND ALL THE RUNS
WILL TAKE OFF FROM THERE. TO GET THERE FROM THE PHOENIX AREA YOU NEED
TO TAKE THE 60 EAST TO THE 79 SOUTH, AFTER A FEW MILES START LOOKING
AT THE MILE MARKERS YOU WANT TO GO ABOUT 1/4 MILE SOUTH OF MILE
MARKER 145 THEN YOU WILL TURN LEFT ON TO COTTONWOOD CANYON RD., YOU
SHOULD US......(I HOPE,AFTER ALL IAM A WOMAN THAT COULD BE HOW TO GET
TO THE MALL TOO ;-)
AS FOR THE START TIMES I WILL BE THERE AT 7:30-8:00AM WE WOULD LIKE
TO START ALL THE RUNS AROUND 9:00AM OR SO.
IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO IS RUNNING LATE YOU CAN CALL JEFFS CELL PHONE
@ 602-369-2786. THANKS KAT KATNJEFF4@H... 480-361-6595
95102 From: hutchmcknight <hutchmcknight@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 10:46pm
Subject: Re: Bull dog canyon.....
---
Randy,
Mesa Ranger District
5140 E. Ingram St.
Mesa Az.85205
480-610-3300
I have a permit.The way I understand it,at least 1 person,in the
group,must have a permit.The group must stay together and be listed on
the permit[license #].I will call and confirm.
Pick a date [Sunday]and I will post a run.
Bill
In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Richards" <rrichards13@m...> wrote:
> I have always been interested in this trail. Anybody have gate code
> privledges that would like to go on this trail. I am free on Sundays
> and Mondays. If so Post a trip. Maybe in a few weeks, after the BBQ
> and Toys for Tots(I think its been done already). Let me know.
>
> Randy
> 99Tj
95103 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:15am
Subject: [TR] Club BBQ - Sunday, December 7, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,John Hunter Kanicsar is leading a Club BBQ trail run on Sunday, December 7, 2003.<br><br>When: 3 pm
Where: Hunter Offroad Parking lot
Rating: 2.0-
Length: how ever long
CB Channel: 4
Hunter's 4th Semi-annual AZVJC BBQ!!!<br>
<br>
Since this is so close to Christmas, I figured I would turn this into a AZVJC Christams Party!! I will have tre up and the whole nine.. Be really nice if maybe someone would like to volunteer to be Santa Claus for the kids??<br>
Do the standard routine, bring lots of food. Bring the BBQ's, have a raffle. (PLan on putting together a big one if I can get a good turn out)Also, the New Ramp will be there, so the Ramp Contest can start all overagain. Was also thinking of a contest for the Best Christmas decoreated Jeep..<br>
<br>
<br>
I will have more info avaible soon. I will also keep things going with updates. Just wanted to get this out <br>
so folks could start planning.<br>
<br>
<br>
Talk to everybody soon.<br>
<br>
John k<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Well, OK, sorry it has taken so long to get this going, (between work and personal things, life has been a bit hectic)
Club BBQ.
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1056
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
95104 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 7:15pm
Subject: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers, chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around. To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95105 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:58am
Subject: Re: Propane/Natural Gas Smell
Errm, my cat converter honeycomb is in pieces, rattling around in the
converter casing. 1994 YJ is notorious for vibration problems
throughout the entire exhaust train. I'm do to replace the entire
exhaust train, starting with new headers, new converter, new muffler,
and all new tubing and oxygen sensor.
I have not smelled anything like natural gas or propane, or rotten eggs,
and my jeep is an open-air affair.
Tony
AZ Outlaws wrote:
>Hi,
>
>The last few weeks I've noticed a natural gas/propane kind of smell when driving around town with the windows out in my '99 TJ. It has 72K miles on it.
>
>I know when the catalytic converter starts going bad it smells like sulfur or rotten eggs. Called the dealer today and they said they've never come across such a problem as I describe.
>
>Anyone ever had the same problem or heard about it, and if so what was the fix?
>
>TIA
>AJ Card
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95106 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 10:50pm
Subject: Re: T4T Run Info. Where and When....
In a message dated 12/1/03 10:16:18 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
katnjeff4@h... writes:
> TO START ALL THE RUNS AROUND 9:00AM OR SO.
hey kat
how about revising the individual trip posts to reflect the start time at
9:00am, and under the "where" put in "cottonwood entrance---off hwy 79".........
thanks
steve sample
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95107 From: steven.campbell <steven.campbell@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 6:52am
Subject: Re: Re: Bull dog canyon.....
That is what they told me.
Steven
----- Original Message -----
From: "hutchmcknight" <hutchmcknight@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:46 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Bull dog canyon.....
> ---
> Randy,
> Mesa Ranger District
> 5140 E. Ingram St.
> Mesa Az.85205
> 480-610-3300
>
> I have a permit.The way I understand it,at least 1 person,in the
> group,must have a permit.The group must stay together and be listed on
> the permit[license #].I will call and confirm.
>
> Pick a date [Sunday]and I will post a run.
>
> Bill
>
>
> In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Richards" <rrichards13@m...> wrote:
> > I have always been interested in this trail. Anybody have gate code
> > privledges that would like to go on this trail. I am free on Sundays
> > and Mondays. If so Post a trip. Maybe in a few weeks, after the BBQ
> > and Toys for Tots(I think its been done already). Let me know.
> >
> > Randy
> > 99Tj
>
>
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95108 From: S.R.D. <sreggiedavis@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 7:29am
Subject: Jeep for sale
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ENGINE: 6-CYL, 4.0 LITER
TRANSMITION: 5 SPEED
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EQUIPTMENT:
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· AIR CONDITIONING
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· SPEAKERS IN THE ROLL BAR
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· ALARM
PRICE: 17,700PLEASE CONTACT JUSTIN OR MELISSA @ 602-741-1094
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95109 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 8:58am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
This has come up several times.
Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in Arizona.
Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
for them
:)
Fred
Dave Peterson wrote:
>Another penny's worth....
>
>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders and
>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some mud
>flaps to hang on it.
>
>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>
>Dave
>
>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
>
>
>>My .02
>>
>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running big
>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most people
>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with the
>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I could
>>be wrong.
>>
>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic) did a
>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
>>
>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell with the
>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler neck into
>>the wheel well in some way.
>>
>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate that will
>>fold down rather then open out.
>>
>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe the PSC
>>corners come precut for LED lights.
>>
>>Justin O.
>>
>>
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95110 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 9:02am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would assume
CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
Dave
--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> This has come up several times.
> Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in Arizona.
> Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
> They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
> for them
>
>
> :)
> Fred
>
>
> Dave Peterson wrote:
>
> >Another penny's worth....
> >
> >I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders and
> >still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some mud
> >flaps to hang on it.
> >
> >Anybody have more information on this than I do?
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>My .02
> >>
> >>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running big
> >>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most people
> >>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
> >>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with the
> >>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I could
> >>be wrong.
> >>
> >>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic) did a
> >>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
> >>
> >>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell with the
> >>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler neck into
> >>the wheel well in some way.
> >>
> >>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate that will
> >>fold down rather then open out.
> >>
> >>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe the PSC
> >>corners come precut for LED lights.
> >>
> >>Justin O.
> >>
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95111 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 9:30am
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
John,
I'll be there with a package of hotdogs, buns, and some chips.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant
make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around.
To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this
year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball
with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We
can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let
me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95112 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 9:44am
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
I'll bring a large bowl of potato salad and macaroni
salad............... Sandee
ANOTHER ISSUE TO CONSIDER: I will supply a "donation pot" for
ORBA..................... This organization will truly be our salvation
regarding "SAVING OUR TRAILS AND ACCESS" but we must get our businesses
involved. They cannot continue joining in the Arizona fights if the
dealers and businesses won't support them. Hunter Off Road was the
first 4x4 business from Arizona to join ORBA last year but I know it's
sometimes hard for small businesses to scrape up the yearly dues......
so................... how about VJC helping Hunter with his ORBA dues?
A couple of dollars from everyone will quickly total his $1,000.00
membership.
Several of the ASA4WDC clubs are paying the ORBA dues for a local small
business membership. As individuals or clubs we cannot join ORBA but
there's nothing stating we cannot help support the small businesses near
and dear to us!
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From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant
make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around.
To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this
year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball
with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We
can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let
me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95113 From: Mike <mike@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 9:58am
Subject: Toys for Tots
I can't make the run this year due to prior commitments, however I do have
some gifts I would like to donate.
Anyone on the East side (Gilbert) willing to let me drop them off to you and
have you take them for me?
Thanks,
-Mike Hoyt
95114 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:16am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
Check the title..
:)
Dave Peterson wrote:
>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would assume
>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>
>Dave
>
>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>
>
>>This has come up several times.
>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in Arizona.
>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
>>for them
>>
>>
>>:)
>>Fred
>>
>>
>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>
>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders and
>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some mud
>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>
>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>My .02
>>>>
>>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running big
>>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most people
>>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
>>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with the
>>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I could
>>>>be wrong.
>>>>
>>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic) did a
>>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
>>>>
>>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell with the
>>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler neck into
>>>>the wheel well in some way.
>>>>
>>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate that will
>>>>fold down rather then open out.
>>>>
>>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe the PSC
>>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
>>>>
>>>>Justin O.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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95115 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:19am
Subject: Re: Toys for Tots
I can run them out there for you, Mike. Still unsure if I'll be doing
any runs or just dropping off toys, but I've got room for yours. Feel
free to drop them by anytime as I'm here all day.
Matt
K7MTO
3472 E Geronimo Ct.
Gilbert
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mike@m...> wrote:
> Anyone on the East side (Gilbert) willing to let me drop them off
to you and
> have you take them for me?
95116 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:33am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's* title -
nevermind....
Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's history?
Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
> Check the title..
>
> :)
>
>
> Dave Peterson wrote:
>
> >Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
> assume
> >CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>This has come up several times.
> >>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
> Arizona.
> >>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
> >>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
> >>for them
> >>
> >>
> >>:)
> >>Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>Dave Peterson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Another penny's worth....
> >>>
> >>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders and
> >>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some
> mud
> >>>flaps to hang on it.
> >>>
> >>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
> >>>
> >>>Dave
> >>>
> >>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>My .02
> >>>>
> >>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running big
> >>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most people
> >>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
> >>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with the
> >>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I could
> >>>>be wrong.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic) did a
> >>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
> >>>>
> >>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell with the
>
> >>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler neck into
>
> >>>>the wheel well in some way.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate that will
> >>>>fold down rather then open out.
> >>>>
> >>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe the PSC
>
> >>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
> >>>>
> >>>>Justin O.
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95117 From: Janice Allison <jallison@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:49am
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Sign me up for a couple of packages of sausages (not dogs), buns & some
type of side.
Jan
At 03:15 AM 12/2/03 -0500, hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
>Howdy Everyone
>
> Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
>
>Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things too....
>
>Reminder..
> * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
>prizes for this.
> * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant make
>the BBQ
> * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
>tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers, chips,
>coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
>around. To date, I
>have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
>everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
>now Last
>year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this year.
>
>New things.....
>
> I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball with
>this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We can
>gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
>good way
>to get some good press.
>
>Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the Raffle..
>If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let me
>know.
>
> Talk to everyone soon..
>
> Best Regards
> John k
>
>
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95118 From: frankgreentj2000 <frankgreentj2000@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:54am
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
I am going to bring a box of foam cups for everyone to use and also
bring 3 bags of hamburgers from Costco. Also a couple of bags of
buns. Also will be bringing a big batch of Potato Salad and Deviled
Eggs. See you all there.
Frank B
98TJ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> Howdy Everyone
>
> Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
>
> Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
>
> Reminder..
> * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
will be
> prizes for this.
> * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that
cant make
> the BBQ
> * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
everyone
> tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
> coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
around. To date, I
> have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is
better so
> everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good
list by now Last
> year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian
this year.
>
> New things.....
>
> I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the
ball with
> this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
cans. We can
> gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would
be good way
> to get some good press.
>
> Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
> If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please
let me
> know.
>
> Talk to everyone soon..
>
> Best Regards
> John k
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95119 From: clintltravis <clint_travis@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:00am
Subject: ARB leak
I have a 97 TJ. When the front ARB airlocker is engaged air leaks
from the breather tube. I assume the ARB seal is leaking. Sound like
the cause? Same thing happen right after it was first installed by
FWS and I had them fixing under warranty.
Can I replace this myself? I assume it involves removing the carrier.
If I have it done who can do it for me and what might it cost?
95120 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:03am
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck, etc...)
Dan
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...> wrote:
> I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's*
title -
> nevermind....
>
> Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's
history?
>
> Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
>
>
> --- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
> > Check the title..
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
> > Dave Peterson wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
> > assume
> > >CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>This has come up several times.
> > >>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
> > Arizona.
> > >>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
> > >>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard
requirement
> > >>for them
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>:)
> > >>Fred
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Dave Peterson wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Another penny's worth....
> > >>>
> > >>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your
fenders and
> > >>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get
some
> > mud
> > >>>flaps to hang on it.
> > >>>
> > >>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
> > >>>
> > >>>Dave
> > >>>
> > >>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>My .02
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running
big
> > >>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most
people
> > >>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
> > >>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with
the
> > >>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I
could
> > >>>>be wrong.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic)
did a
> > >>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell
with the
> >
> > >>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler
neck into
> >
> > >>>>the wheel well in some way.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate
that will
> > >>>>fold down rather then open out.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe
the PSC
> >
> > >>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Justin O.
>
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95096 From: Rio Harbour <rioshilo@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 7:09pm
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Fred, I used an air powered cutoff wheel. Smoothed it out with a
flap wheel. I'm looking for a plasma cutter though. Gonna get down and
dirty... Fabricationally speaking. Is that a word? LOL
Rio
Fred Wilson wrote:
> Looks good..
> What did you use for the cutting ??
>
>
> Fred
>
>
> Rio Harbour wrote:
>
>>Those are mine. I originally cut the rear wheel wells up to fit the
>>35's with 3" of lift. I cut right up to the bottom of the inner wheel
>>tub. Leaving the pinch welds intact. Here is a picture of that.
>>
>>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/old%20fender%20cut.JPG
>>
>>You can see that the rear angle matches the front angle. I then changed
>>it because I got tired of tagging the bottom of my corners on rocks. I
>>didn't want to make one of those wrap around bumpers because of the loss
>>of clearance. So... I made a really short rear bumper and cut the
>>corners down to match. Now there is nothing back there to catch. It
>>still looks the same now as it did in Freds picture, only I went back to
>>black. Here are some more recent pictures
>>
>>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/urban%20wheeling1.JPG
>>
>>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/urban%20wheeling2.JPG
>>
>>When I extend my wheelbase I will cut it comp style, and put a fuel cell
>>in the back.
>>
>>
>>Rio
>>
>>
>>
>>Fred Wilson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Why would you trim the rear fenders (A Lot !!) ??
>>>Just don't cut 'em as much.
>>>Here's a photo of someone on this list (sorry, don't know who it is),
>>>that did what I'm talking about.
>>>
>>>http://fredtj.com/images/photos/rear_cutout/m5.JPG
>>>
>>>
>>>:)
>>>Fred
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Dan Dennis wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I've been thinking, since Fred posted up the info on his front tube
>>>>fenders on his TJ, about doing the same to BRUZR and going a step
>>>>further...Trimming the rear fenders (A LOT!!!) I was thinking,
>>>>though, "Where would I relocate my gas filler?" Check out the link
>>>>below to see what I'm thinking about doing and give me some
>>>>suggestions...Remember, if I have my top on, I still need to access
>>>>it and I have a 2 1/2 year old that regularly rides with me, so in
>>>>cab doesn't work (fumes?)...
>>>>
>>>>http://www.citlink.net/~dannpegg/links_files/Comp_cut.jpg
>>>>
>>>>TIA,
>>>>Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
>>>>97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 6:26pm
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Funny Short Movie
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95098 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 5:55pm
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Looks good..
What did you use for the cutting ??
Fred
Rio Harbour wrote:
>Those are mine. I originally cut the rear wheel wells up to fit the
>35's with 3" of lift. I cut right up to the bottom of the inner wheel
>tub. Leaving the pinch welds intact. Here is a picture of that.
>
>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/old%20fender%20cut.JPG
>
>You can see that the rear angle matches the front angle. I then changed
>it because I got tired of tagging the bottom of my corners on rocks. I
>didn't want to make one of those wrap around bumpers because of the loss
>of clearance. So... I made a really short rear bumper and cut the
>corners down to match. Now there is nothing back there to catch. It
>still looks the same now as it did in Freds picture, only I went back to
>black. Here are some more recent pictures
>
>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/urban%20wheeling1.JPG
>
>http://members.cox.net/rioshilo/urban%20wheeling2.JPG
>
>When I extend my wheelbase I will cut it comp style, and put a fuel cell
>in the back.
>
>
>Rio
>
>
>
>Fred Wilson wrote:
>
>
>
>>Why would you trim the rear fenders (A Lot !!) ??
>>Just don't cut 'em as much.
>>Here's a photo of someone on this list (sorry, don't know who it is),
>>that did what I'm talking about.
>>
>>http://fredtj.com/images/photos/rear_cutout/m5.JPG
>>
>>
>>:)
>>Fred
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Dan Dennis wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>I've been thinking, since Fred posted up the info on his front tube
>>>fenders on his TJ, about doing the same to BRUZR and going a step
>>>further...Trimming the rear fenders (A LOT!!!) I was thinking,
>>>though, "Where would I relocate my gas filler?" Check out the link
>>>below to see what I'm thinking about doing and give me some
>>>suggestions...Remember, if I have my top on, I still need to access
>>>it and I have a 2 1/2 year old that regularly rides with me, so in
>>>cab doesn't work (fumes?)...
>>>
>>>http://www.citlink.net/~dannpegg/links_files/Comp_cut.jpg
>>>
>>>TIA,
>>>Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
>>>97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
>>>
>>>
>>>
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95099 From: jason la montagne <jalamontag@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 8:17pm
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Funny Short Movie
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95100 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 9:08pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2000 4.0 TJ - 700 R4/Avenger Supercharger install/don...
Cool! I'd like to see those. The engine going in the Willys is already
set up pretty much the same way the Dodge Cummins are. Those wagon
engine compartments are actually pretty roomy.
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, rokkcrawler@a... wrote:
> LInda, I saw a Turbocharger and a Supercharger both on two ZJs last
year.
> One was on a 5.2 and the other on a 5.9. The SC on the 5.9 made it
a real
> screamer. I would think he went with the Supercharger as they will
work at all
> RPMS. The Turbo usually only works at 3000 rpm and above or at
full throttle
> depending on the model.
>
>
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95101 From: Katrina and Jeff <katnjeff4@h...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 9:10pm
Subject: T4T Run Info. Where and When....
OK ALL THIS IS THE DEAL, WE WILL MEET AT THE ENTRANCE OF COTTONWOOD
CANYON RD.THERE IS A BIG OPEN AREA NEXT TO THE ROAD AND ALL THE RUNS
WILL TAKE OFF FROM THERE. TO GET THERE FROM THE PHOENIX AREA YOU NEED
TO TAKE THE 60 EAST TO THE 79 SOUTH, AFTER A FEW MILES START LOOKING
AT THE MILE MARKERS YOU WANT TO GO ABOUT 1/4 MILE SOUTH OF MILE
MARKER 145 THEN YOU WILL TURN LEFT ON TO COTTONWOOD CANYON RD., YOU
SHOULD US......(I HOPE,AFTER ALL IAM A WOMAN THAT COULD BE HOW TO GET
TO THE MALL TOO ;-)
AS FOR THE START TIMES I WILL BE THERE AT 7:30-8:00AM WE WOULD LIKE
TO START ALL THE RUNS AROUND 9:00AM OR SO.
IF THERE IS ANYONE WHO IS RUNNING LATE YOU CAN CALL JEFFS CELL PHONE
@ 602-369-2786. THANKS KAT KATNJEFF4@H... 480-361-6595
95102 From: hutchmcknight <hutchmcknight@y...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 10:46pm
Subject: Re: Bull dog canyon.....
---
Randy,
Mesa Ranger District
5140 E. Ingram St.
Mesa Az.85205
480-610-3300
I have a permit.The way I understand it,at least 1 person,in the
group,must have a permit.The group must stay together and be listed on
the permit[license #].I will call and confirm.
Pick a date [Sunday]and I will post a run.
Bill
In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Richards" <rrichards13@m...> wrote:
> I have always been interested in this trail. Anybody have gate code
> privledges that would like to go on this trail. I am free on Sundays
> and Mondays. If so Post a trip. Maybe in a few weeks, after the BBQ
> and Toys for Tots(I think its been done already). Let me know.
>
> Randy
> 99Tj
95103 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:15am
Subject: [TR] Club BBQ - Sunday, December 7, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,John Hunter Kanicsar is leading a Club BBQ trail run on Sunday, December 7, 2003.<br><br>When: 3 pm
Where: Hunter Offroad Parking lot
Rating: 2.0-
Length: how ever long
CB Channel: 4
Hunter's 4th Semi-annual AZVJC BBQ!!!<br>
<br>
Since this is so close to Christmas, I figured I would turn this into a AZVJC Christams Party!! I will have tre up and the whole nine.. Be really nice if maybe someone would like to volunteer to be Santa Claus for the kids??<br>
Do the standard routine, bring lots of food. Bring the BBQ's, have a raffle. (PLan on putting together a big one if I can get a good turn out)Also, the New Ramp will be there, so the Ramp Contest can start all overagain. Was also thinking of a contest for the Best Christmas decoreated Jeep..<br>
<br>
<br>
I will have more info avaible soon. I will also keep things going with updates. Just wanted to get this out <br>
so folks could start planning.<br>
<br>
<br>
Talk to everybody soon.<br>
<br>
John k<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Well, OK, sorry it has taken so long to get this going, (between work and personal things, life has been a bit hectic)
Club BBQ.
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1056
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
95104 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 7:15pm
Subject: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers, chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around. To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95105 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 0:58am
Subject: Re: Propane/Natural Gas Smell
Errm, my cat converter honeycomb is in pieces, rattling around in the
converter casing. 1994 YJ is notorious for vibration problems
throughout the entire exhaust train. I'm do to replace the entire
exhaust train, starting with new headers, new converter, new muffler,
and all new tubing and oxygen sensor.
I have not smelled anything like natural gas or propane, or rotten eggs,
and my jeep is an open-air affair.
Tony
AZ Outlaws wrote:
>Hi,
>
>The last few weeks I've noticed a natural gas/propane kind of smell when driving around town with the windows out in my '99 TJ. It has 72K miles on it.
>
>I know when the catalytic converter starts going bad it smells like sulfur or rotten eggs. Called the dealer today and they said they've never come across such a problem as I describe.
>
>Anyone ever had the same problem or heard about it, and if so what was the fix?
>
>TIA
>AJ Card
>
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95106 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Dec 1, 2003 10:50pm
Subject: Re: T4T Run Info. Where and When....
In a message dated 12/1/03 10:16:18 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
katnjeff4@h... writes:
> TO START ALL THE RUNS AROUND 9:00AM OR SO.
hey kat
how about revising the individual trip posts to reflect the start time at
9:00am, and under the "where" put in "cottonwood entrance---off hwy 79".........
thanks
steve sample
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95107 From: steven.campbell <steven.campbell@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 6:52am
Subject: Re: Re: Bull dog canyon.....
That is what they told me.
Steven
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From: "hutchmcknight" <hutchmcknight@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:46 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Bull dog canyon.....
> ---
> Randy,
> Mesa Ranger District
> 5140 E. Ingram St.
> Mesa Az.85205
> 480-610-3300
>
> I have a permit.The way I understand it,at least 1 person,in the
> group,must have a permit.The group must stay together and be listed on
> the permit[license #].I will call and confirm.
>
> Pick a date [Sunday]and I will post a run.
>
> Bill
>
>
> In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Randy Richards" <rrichards13@m...> wrote:
> > I have always been interested in this trail. Anybody have gate code
> > privledges that would like to go on this trail. I am free on Sundays
> > and Mondays. If so Post a trip. Maybe in a few weeks, after the BBQ
> > and Toys for Tots(I think its been done already). Let me know.
> >
> > Randy
> > 99Tj
>
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95108 From: S.R.D. <sreggiedavis@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 7:29am
Subject: Jeep for sale
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TRANSMITION: 5 SPEED
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· REAR SEAT
· AIR CONDITIONING
· TILT WHEEL
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· AM/FM STREO/CD PLAYER
· SPEAKERS IN THE ROLL BAR
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· PRIVACY GLASS
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95109 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 8:58am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
This has come up several times.
Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in Arizona.
Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
for them
:)
Fred
Dave Peterson wrote:
>Another penny's worth....
>
>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders and
>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some mud
>flaps to hang on it.
>
>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>
>Dave
>
>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
>
>
>>My .02
>>
>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running big
>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most people
>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with the
>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I could
>>be wrong.
>>
>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic) did a
>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
>>
>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell with the
>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler neck into
>>the wheel well in some way.
>>
>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate that will
>>fold down rather then open out.
>>
>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe the PSC
>>corners come precut for LED lights.
>>
>>Justin O.
>>
>>
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95110 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 9:02am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would assume
CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
Dave
--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> This has come up several times.
> Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in Arizona.
> Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
> They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
> for them
>
>
> :)
> Fred
>
>
> Dave Peterson wrote:
>
> >Another penny's worth....
> >
> >I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders and
> >still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some mud
> >flaps to hang on it.
> >
> >Anybody have more information on this than I do?
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>My .02
> >>
> >>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running big
> >>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most people
> >>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
> >>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with the
> >>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I could
> >>be wrong.
> >>
> >>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic) did a
> >>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
> >>
> >>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell with the
> >>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler neck into
> >>the wheel well in some way.
> >>
> >>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate that will
> >>fold down rather then open out.
> >>
> >>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe the PSC
> >>corners come precut for LED lights.
> >>
> >>Justin O.
> >>
> >>
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95111 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 9:30am
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
John,
I'll be there with a package of hotdogs, buns, and some chips.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant
make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around.
To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this
year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball
with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We
can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let
me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95112 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 9:44am
Subject: RE: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
I'll bring a large bowl of potato salad and macaroni
salad............... Sandee
ANOTHER ISSUE TO CONSIDER: I will supply a "donation pot" for
ORBA..................... This organization will truly be our salvation
regarding "SAVING OUR TRAILS AND ACCESS" but we must get our businesses
involved. They cannot continue joining in the Arizona fights if the
dealers and businesses won't support them. Hunter Off Road was the
first 4x4 business from Arizona to join ORBA last year but I know it's
sometimes hard for small businesses to scrape up the yearly dues......
so................... how about VJC helping Hunter with his ORBA dues?
A couple of dollars from everyone will quickly total his $1,000.00
membership.
Several of the ASA4WDC clubs are paying the ORBA dues for a local small
business membership. As individuals or clubs we cannot join ORBA but
there's nothing stating we cannot help support the small businesses near
and dear to us!
-----Original Message-----
From: hunteroffroad@a... [mailto:hunteroffroad@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2003 1:16 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Howdy Everyone
Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
Reminder..
* There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
prizes for this.
* Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
* I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
* There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant
make
the BBQ
* Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go around.
To date, I
have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
now Last
year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this
year.
New things.....
I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball
with
this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We
can
gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
good way
to get some good press.
Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let
me
know.
Talk to everyone soon..
Best Regards
John k
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95113 From: Mike <mike@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 9:58am
Subject: Toys for Tots
I can't make the run this year due to prior commitments, however I do have
some gifts I would like to donate.
Anyone on the East side (Gilbert) willing to let me drop them off to you and
have you take them for me?
Thanks,
-Mike Hoyt
95114 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:16am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
Check the title..
:)
Dave Peterson wrote:
>Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would assume
>CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
>
>Dave
>
>--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
>
>
>>This has come up several times.
>>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in Arizona.
>>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
>>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
>>for them
>>
>>
>>:)
>>Fred
>>
>>
>>Dave Peterson wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Another penny's worth....
>>>
>>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders and
>>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some mud
>>>flaps to hang on it.
>>>
>>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
>>>
>>>Dave
>>>
>>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>My .02
>>>>
>>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running big
>>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most people
>>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
>>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with the
>>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I could
>>>>be wrong.
>>>>
>>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic) did a
>>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
>>>>
>>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell with the
>>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler neck into
>>>>the wheel well in some way.
>>>>
>>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate that will
>>>>fold down rather then open out.
>>>>
>>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe the PSC
>>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
>>>>
>>>>Justin O.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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95115 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:19am
Subject: Re: Toys for Tots
I can run them out there for you, Mike. Still unsure if I'll be doing
any runs or just dropping off toys, but I've got room for yours. Feel
free to drop them by anytime as I'm here all day.
Matt
K7MTO
3472 E Geronimo Ct.
Gilbert
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Mike" <mike@m...> wrote:
> Anyone on the East side (Gilbert) willing to let me drop them off
to you and
> have you take them for me?
95116 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:33am
Subject: Re: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's* title -
nevermind....
Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's history?
Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
> Check the title..
>
> :)
>
>
> Dave Peterson wrote:
>
> >Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
> assume
> >CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>This has come up several times.
> >>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
> Arizona.
> >>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
> >>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard requirement
> >>for them
> >>
> >>
> >>:)
> >>Fred
> >>
> >>
> >>Dave Peterson wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Another penny's worth....
> >>>
> >>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your fenders and
> >>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get some
> mud
> >>>flaps to hang on it.
> >>>
> >>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
> >>>
> >>>Dave
> >>>
> >>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>My .02
> >>>>
> >>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running big
> >>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most people
> >>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
> >>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with the
> >>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I could
> >>>>be wrong.
> >>>>
> >>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic) did a
> >>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
> >>>>
> >>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell with the
>
> >>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler neck into
>
> >>>>the wheel well in some way.
> >>>>
> >>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate that will
> >>>>fold down rather then open out.
> >>>>
> >>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe the PSC
>
> >>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
> >>>>
> >>>>Justin O.
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95117 From: Janice Allison <jallison@a...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:49am
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
Sign me up for a couple of packages of sausages (not dogs), buns & some
type of side.
Jan
At 03:15 AM 12/2/03 -0500, hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
>Howdy Everyone
>
> Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
>
>Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things too....
>
>Reminder..
> * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There will be
>prizes for this.
> * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that cant make
>the BBQ
> * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that everyone
>tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers, chips,
>coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
>around. To date, I
>have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is better so
>everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good list by
>now Last
>year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian this year.
>
>New things.....
>
> I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the ball with
>this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of cans. We can
>gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would be
>good way
>to get some good press.
>
>Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the Raffle..
>If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please let me
>know.
>
> Talk to everyone soon..
>
> Best Regards
> John k
>
>
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95118 From: frankgreentj2000 <frankgreentj2000@y...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 10:54am
Subject: Re: BBQ, Can Food drive and Santa
I am going to bring a box of foam cups for everyone to use and also
bring 3 bags of hamburgers from Costco. Also a couple of bags of
buns. Also will be bringing a big batch of Potato Salad and Deviled
Eggs. See you all there.
Frank B
98TJ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, hunteroffroad@a... wrote:
> Howdy Everyone
>
> Ok the BBQ is less then a week away.
>
> Got a couple things I want to remind everyone and a few new things
too....
>
> Reminder..
> * There will a Best Christmas Decorated Jeep Contest.. There
will be
> prizes for this.
> * Also, I am pretty sure Santa will be coming too!
> * I am STILL looking for some more BBQ grills and cookers!
> * There will collection for Toys 4 Tots here too for those that
cant make
> the BBQ
> * Also, I want to point out that it is pretty important that
everyone
> tries to chip in a little as far as food goes.. Hot dogs, Burgers,
chips,
> coolers, soda, bean dip, etc... That way, there is plenty to go
around. To date, I
> have had only 4 people tell me (or post to the club, which is
better so
> everyone knows what is coming) In the past I usually have a good
list by now Last
> year we ran out of food, I woudl like to try and avoid this agian
this year.
>
> New things.....
>
> I am looking to do a Can Food Drive... (Anyone want to take the
ball with
> this and run with it?) Everyone that comes, bring a couple of
cans. We can
> gather up and make a dontaion in the club's name. Think that would
be good way
> to get some good press.
>
> Also, I am looking for anyone that wants to make a donation to the
Raffle..
> If you have business that you think folks can benifit from, please
let me
> know.
>
> Talk to everyone soon..
>
> Best Regards
> John k
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
95119 From: clintltravis <clint_travis@m...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:00am
Subject: ARB leak
I have a 97 TJ. When the front ARB airlocker is engaged air leaks
from the breather tube. I assume the ARB seal is leaking. Sound like
the cause? Same thing happen right after it was first installed by
FWS and I had them fixing under warranty.
Can I replace this myself? I assume it involves removing the carrier.
If I have it done who can do it for me and what might it cost?
95120 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Dec 2, 2003 11:03am
Subject: Re: TJ rear fender cutting...Question...
No, Fred's talking about your vehicle title...It should show what
your Jeep is classified as (i.e.- Station Wagon, Sedan, Truck, etc...)
Dan
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...> wrote:
> I got a clear title on my CJ - oh, wait, you meant the *thread's*
title -
> nevermind....
>
> Din'tcha show a pitcher of a YJ somewhere along this thread's
history?
>
> Dave (pppppbbbbblllltttt...... :-p)
>
>
> --- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > Not sure about YJ' s and CJ's.
> > Check the title..
> >
> > :)
> >
> >
> > Dave Peterson wrote:
> >
> > >Thanks, Fred! I didn't know that. I appreciate the info. (I would
> > assume
> > >CJs and YJs are also "not trucks".) :-)
> > >
> > >Dave
> > >
> > >--- Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >>This has come up several times.
> > >>Only "trucks" have a covered tire/mud flap, requirement here in
> > Arizona.
> > >>Jeeps (well, at least TJ's) are not trucks.
> > >>They are "station wagons", so there's no fender/mud guard
requirement
> > >>for them
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>:)
> > >>Fred
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>Dave Peterson wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Another penny's worth....
> > >>>
> > >>>I don't know how strict the cops are, but if you cut your
fenders and
> > >>>still want to run it on the street a lot, you may have to get
some
> > mud
> > >>>flaps to hang on it.
> > >>>
> > >>>Anybody have more information on this than I do?
> > >>>
> > >>>Dave
> > >>>
> > >>>--- yzguyone25 <YZGUYONE25@a...> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>My .02
> > >>>>
> > >>>>I would not do the competition cut unless you plan on running
big
> > >>>>meats and extending your wheelbase. From what I see most
people
> > >>>>comp. cut their rigs so they have clearance for the extended
> > >>>>wheelbase. I believe this sort of a cut might look odd with
the
> > >>>>stock wheel base. However I have never seen it that way so I
could
> > >>>>be wrong.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>If you want to cut it up to look nice, Rio (blue TJ in pic)
did a
> > >>>>great job on his. It's a nice, clean and unique cut.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Many people move their tank into the bed or run a fuel cell
with the
> >
> > >>>>comp. cut. I have heard of many people running the filler
neck into
> >
> > >>>>the wheel well in some way.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>As for the hinges, you could always go to a CJ style gate
that will
> > >>>>fold down rather then open out.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Also, plan on doing LED lights at the same time as I believe
the PSC
> >
> > >>>>corners come precut for LED lights.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Justin O.
>
>
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