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94895 From: george Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:08pm
Subject: Fw: Shackle Reversal Kits
Check this link out:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/susp/elkcahs/
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee
'73 Wagoneer
'93 Grand Cherokee
'00 Wrangler
----- Original Message -----
From: TODD MCCULLEN
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:38 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Shackle Reversal Kits
I would recommend that any bolt on reversal kit you buy, weld it all on. I
repair or redo at least one a month of these kits that are bolted on. The
kits are fine if you do not use it off-road.
Todd
www.desertfab.com
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94896 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:57pm
Subject: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the axel is major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this one cut off, and another fashioned and replaced.
Anyone ?
mykliv@h...
Thanks !!
Michael Forer
94897 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:23pm
Subject: RE: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
Hunter Offroad. (480) 557-7577
Joe F. West
Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:57 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the axel is major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this one cut off, and another fashioned and replaced.
Anyone ?
mykliv@h...
Thanks !!
Michael Forer
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94898 From: Eric Marcus <3timejeepin@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:47pm
Subject: bolt pattern for jeep wrangler??
What is it?? And how much back spacing for a 4 inch lift with 33 12.5s
on 17's
Eric Marcus
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94899 From: Halverson <byrnec@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:00pm
Subject: Re: JEEP THANG From IRAQ
Good for you and Sharky is getting better. Thanks for taking care of us in
Iraq.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry George" <jeep_thang@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] JEEP THANG From IRAQ
> WOOOOHOOOOO
>
>
> This is jeep thang writing from Somewhere between Baghdad and Balad
> Iraq. Just checking in to see what's the latest on the list. I am so
> happy, I have been away from my family since Feb. 10 of 03 and have
> missed my family so much. And I just found out that I will be able to
> come home on leave Dec.12th that puts me home for Christmas. Sadly I
> have to leave again but that is OK, it will only be a few months
> after that that I will be home for good. I don't know if anyone cares
> but I just want to tell everyone in the world. I have never been so
> happy in my life with two exceptions.
> So with that out of the way. How is everybody doing back home. I
> did check in a little while ago and read a couple of things about
> someone being in a coma. Can't recall when or what for. I don't get
> alot of time to play on the internet so I was wandering if someone
> can let me know who it was and how they are doing now. I think that
> it was because of an accident or something. Can you guys on the club
> send my regards and hope for a good recovery to them. I think that it
> was Sharky actually now that I mention it, but I am not sure. Well I
> need to get back to my duties. Wheel a couple for me.
>
> JEEP THANG
> Larry, Carmen and Getting Bigger Lil Emily
> '87 Wrangler, Locked Lifted and Bent a little.
>
>
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94900 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:41pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
While I agree John is the man to see, i would just toss the rear
trackbar, as you dont need it on a yj. (unless you have converted to
coils or something.) Take it off and see if you can even tell a
difference, I bet you can't other than a little more flex offroad.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hunter Offroad. (480) 557-7577
>
> Joe F. West
> Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
> Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
> Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:57 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
>
> I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the
axel is major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this
one cut off, and another fashioned and replaced.
>
> Anyone ?
>
> mykliv@h...
>
> Thanks !!
>
> Michael Forer
>
>
>
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94901 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:46pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
Second Hunter. I went upside down at Jambo and my cage didn't flinch!
;-)
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
To: <mykliv@h...>; "AzVJC" <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
> Hunter Offroad. (480) 557-7577
>
> Joe F. West
> Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
> Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
> Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:57 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
>
> I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the axel is
major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this one cut off,
and another fashioned and replaced.
>
> Anyone ?
>
> mykliv@h...
>
> Thanks !!
>
> Michael Forer
>
>
>
>
>
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94902 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:09pm
Subject: RE: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
Toys by Troy does great fab work. 623-879-8697
Stu
-
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:57 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the axel is
major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this one cut
off, and another fashioned and replaced.
-Anyone ?
mykliv@h...
Thanks !!
Michael Forer
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94904 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:45pm
Subject: Re: WATCH YOUR SPARES !!!
Every now & then some one stops in with 4 tires (spares) stating that they bought them at the swap meet yea right
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Blank
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:36 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] WATCH YOUR SPARES !!!
Someone on the I-17 and Union Hills is steeling spare tyres, maybe he/she
is looking to make a set !
Mine was stolen black fake bead locker 33*12.50-15. Just an FYI...
At least that spare was bent as hell, It was only good for a spare...
Jason
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94905 From: jeff misischia <g4mannn@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:14pm
Subject: Re: Re: Shackle inversion kit?
got mine from RE and love it!
jeff
95YJ
--- Dave Rubinstein <skydivebum@y...> wrote:
> Hi Rayne,
> I installed a shackle reversal kit years ago and I
> love it. Better on road handling and the off roading
> is great. My best suggestion, however, is to get
> some
> "anti-kickback" shackles. When you put the shackles
> in
> the rear the Jeep will nose dive a little during
> breaking. Nothing to worry about, it'll be like you
> would experience in your car. The problem will be
> occur during a hard "panic" breaking situation; hard
> breaking may cause the shackles to invert and slam
> up
> against the frame where they will stay until you
> jack
> up the vehicle and apply allot of force with a crow
> bar to get them back. This situation can also occur
> during the extreme articulation of off roading. Not
> fun, been there done that. The anti-kickback
> shackles
> will alleviate that problem.
> Good luck, you'll love the new ride. No more having
> to
> keep a death grip on the steering when going over
> nasty bumps or bad rail road tracks at highway
> speed.
> Dave
> --- blueazjeep <blueazjeep@y...> wrote:
> > I have not personally done one myself yet(plan
> to),
> > but I have heard
> > nothing but good things about them. However, I
> have
> > never heard of
> > the Trailmaster setup.
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Rayne gray"
> > <raynegray@h...> wrote:
> > > Hey Folks,
> > >
> > > I am considering a shackle inversion on my 84
> cj7
> > and I have a my
> > eye on a
> > > "trail master" inversion kit on ebay. It is a
> > bolt on set up. Any
> > feed
> > > back on this piece of equipment and shackle
> > inversions in general?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Rayne
> > > 84cj7
> > >
> > >
> >
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94906 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:35pm
Subject: [TR] Martinez Cabin - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading a Martinez Cabin trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Saturday December 6 2003
Where:
Rating: 2.5+
Length: All day
CB Channel: 8
This is the Second Annual AZVJC Toys For Tots toy collection (we hope to make this an annual event.) This year we are going to have it where we were supposed to have it last time, at the Jamboree campground. Actually, we'll be right at the gate entrance off of SR79. We won't be leading any runs or providing any food this time (sorry). All we ask is for a new unwapped gift. If anyone out there wants to lead a run,I need to know buy the 29th of NOV.I still need leaders as of 11-19-03 Thanks!!!<br>
We will also have a Toys For Tots drop off box at the BBQ for people who can not make the run.
Martinez Cabin is a wonderful trail for the "new" 4-wheeler with his stock vehicle and family.<br>
<br>
This trail will take you into Martinez Canyon which has to be one of the most beautiful canyons in the area, in league with Sedona red bluffs!! <br>
<br>
You can have lunch under the Cottonwood trees at the old homestead and you may explore the old mill.<br>
<br>
Stock vehicle, stock tires and novice drivers, this would be a wonderful trail for you!!<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=809
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94907 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:35pm
Subject: [TR] Jack Handle - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading a Jack Handle trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Start time around 8am
Where: TOYS FOR TOTS RUN
Rating: 3.5+
Length:
CB Channel: 8
This is one of the trails that we will be running on <br>
Dec.6th The Leader for this run will be Tom Jacobson.(Thanks Tom!)
Jack Handle is a nice but fairly short loop trail that has a number of challenging obstacles. It starts out in a fairly flat wash. It then winds around as the trail gets tighter and tighter.<br>
<br>
There are a few small waterfalls and many table sized boulders to navigate along the way, including a fairly narrow slot that you have to scramble up. This slot makes it a very tight squeeze for full size vehicles (and probably not advisable). The trail can be run in about 2 hours or so.<br>
<br>
The first guy to run this trail didn't see one boulder and ended up using his jack handle as a temporary tie rod to finish the trail so keep your eyes open along the way. When you think you at the end, the trail juts up out on the wash and gives you a view of the whole area. Then you are in for a few roller coasters and a steep drop back to where you started.<br>
<br>
This is not a trail to be tried unless you are an experienced 4-wheeler with a well equipped vehicle. High clearance and some traction devices are required. Water and your camera are a must.<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1107
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Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94908 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:36pm
Subject: [TR] Highway to Hell - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading a Highway to Hell trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Start around 8am
Where:
Rating: 4.5+
Length:
CB Channel: 8
This is one of the trails that we will be diong for the TOYS FOR TOTS run. The leader for this run will be <br>
Steve Sample. (Thanks Steve!)
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1109
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- The AzVJC Website
94909 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:36pm
Subject: [TR] Powerline Trail - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading a Powerline Trail trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Start around 8am
Where:
Rating: 3.5
Length:
CB Channel: 8
This is on of the trails that we will be doing for the TOYS FOR TOTS run. The leader for this run will be Robert Roger.(Thanks Robert!)
The Powerline Trail does a figure 8 as you travel along the powerline, up a off-camber hill and then back down to a grassy meadow and back up another slippery "switchback" trail.<br>
<br>
This trail is truly a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler. Some type of locking device is recommended, as well as clearance and 31' tires. Totally stock vehicles and/or novice drivers are not recommended. This is an all day trip. Don't forget your lunch & water.<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1110
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Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94910 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:36pm
Subject: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Start time around 8am
Where:
Rating: 3.5+
Length:
CB Channel: 8
This is one of the trails that we will be doing for the TOYS FOR TOTS run. The leader of this run will be <br>
Steve James. (Thanks Steve!)
Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the road to the Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you cross over and around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls or narrow rock areas to find your way over or through but there are several by-passes. The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.<br>
<br>
This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler, although this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock vehicle.<br>
<br>
A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1108
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94911 From: bgc3 <bg3@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:55pm
Subject: oil sending unit
94912 From: bgc3 <bg3@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:00pm
Subject: oil sending unit
I found the proper sending unit at my local parts store for my 97 TJ.
There are two listed one is a single post and the other is a dual
postunit.
Both are avail and the dual post is 48.00 if anyone needs one let my
know and I will direct you to him.
He is an old school type of parts store uses the books and pictures
instead of what the computer says.
Byron
97 TJ
Mesa
94913 From: bgc3 <bg3@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:00pm
Subject: oil sending unit
I found the proper sending unit at my local parts store for my 97 TJ.
There are two listed one is a single post and the other is a dual
postunit.
Both are avail and the dual post is 48.00 if anyone needs one let my
know and I will direct you to him.
He is an old school type of parts store uses the books and pictures
instead of what the computer says.
Byron
97 TJ
Mesa
94914 From: Dave Rubinstein <skydivebum@y...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:54am
Subject: Re: Re: Shackle inversion kit?
You know what, you're right. The one time they did
reverse on me during breaking was a breaking test I
did when I installed rear disc brakes and I had too
much forward breaking. Ever since then I was paranoid
it would happen again until I installed the
anti-kickback shackels. But it never did.
Dave
--- Craig Micek <micekc@e...> wrote:
> Dave, I would have to argue that a correctly done
> shackle reversal should
> never get locked up due to heavy braking. If it
> does, the upper pivot is
> either to far forward or back and or the shackles
> are of the wrong length.
>
> The anit kickback shackles are a wonderful idea for
> wheeling though.
> Articulation and the extra pressures caused by the
> rocks will push and pull
> the springs past the point of no return. Many times
> resulting in a bent or
> broken spring. The anit kickback shackles will
> often prevent this from
> happening.
>
> Craig
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Rubinstein" <skydivebum@y...>
> To: "blueazjeep" <blueazjeep@y...>;
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Shackle inversion kit?
>
>
> > Hi Rayne,
> > I installed a shackle reversal kit years ago and
> I
> > love it. Better on road handling and the off
> roading
> > is great. My best suggestion, however, is to get
> some
> > "anti-kickback" shackles. When you put the
> shackles in
> > the rear the Jeep will nose dive a little during
> > breaking. Nothing to worry about, it'll be like
> you
> > would experience in your car. The problem will be
> > occur during a hard "panic" breaking situation;
> hard
> > breaking may cause the shackles to invert and slam
> up
> > against the frame where they will stay until you
> jack
> > up the vehicle and apply allot of force with a
> crow
> > bar to get them back. This situation can also
> occur
> > during the extreme articulation of off roading.
> Not
> > fun, been there done that. The anti-kickback
> shackles
> > will alleviate that problem.
> > Good luck, you'll love the new ride. No more
> having to
> > keep a death grip on the steering when going over
> > nasty bumps or bad rail road tracks at highway
> speed.
> > Dave
> > --- blueazjeep <blueazjeep@y...> wrote:
> > > I have not personally done one myself yet(plan
> to),
> > > but I have heard
> > > nothing but good things about them. However, I
> have
> > > never heard of
> > > the Trailmaster setup.
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Rayne gray"
> > > <raynegray@h...> wrote:
> > > > Hey Folks,
> > > >
> > > > I am considering a shackle inversion on my 84
> cj7
> > > and I have a my
> > > eye on a
> > > > "trail master" inversion kit on ebay. It is a
> > > bolt on set up. Any
> > > feed
> > > > back on this piece of equipment and shackle
> > > inversions in general?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Rayne
> > > > 84cj7
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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94915 From: Matt <mmckeon5@c...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:01am
Subject: Sycamore Creek GPS Coordinates
Hello,
Does anyone know the coordinates/LAT/LON along Sycamore Creek Trail ride? Any GPS info on this trail ride would be helpful as I am leading a trail ride on Saturday.
Thanks,
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94916 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:48am
Subject: Re: bolt pattern for jeep wrangler??
I think all Jeep Wrangler models are 5-4.5. Backspacing changes by by
tire width, so, for example, if you have 5.5" backspacing on 15x7
wheels, look for the same for 17x7 wheels. I think for 33x12.50s you
will need to look at 4.5" backspacing to keep the tire scrub radius
intact.
Have you found a good source for reasonably priced 17" wheels? I have
been looking, but I haven't found much for 8-bolt wheels yet. It
seems that they are being made mostly in 5 and 6-bolt patterns.
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Marcus" <3timejeepin@c...> wrote:
> What is it?? And how much back spacing for a 4 inch lift with 33
12.5s
> on 17's
>
> Eric Marcus
>
>
>
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94917 From: Jason Blank <rockrdr@h...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:58am
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving !!!
TWAS THE NIGHT OF THANKSGIVING, I JUST COULDN'T SLEEP
I TRIED COUNTING BACKWARDS, I TRIED COUNTING SHEEP.
THE LEFTOVERS BECKONED - THE DARK MEAT AND WHITE
BUT I FOUGHT THE TEMPTATION WITH ALL OF MY MIGHT
TOSSING AND TURNING WITH ANTICIPATION
THE THOUGHT OF A SNACK BECAME INFATUATION.
SO, I RACED TO THE KITCHEN, FLUNG OPEN THE DOOR
AND GAZED AT THE FRIDGE, FULL OF GOODIES GALORE.
I GOBBLED UP TURKEY AND BUTTERED POTATOES,
PICKLES AND CARROTS, BEANS AND TOMATOES.
I FELT MYSELF SWELLING SO PLUMP AND SO ROUND,
'TIL ALL OF A SUDDEN, I ROSE OFF THE GROUND.
I CRASHED THROUGH THE CEILING, FLOATING INTO THE
SKY WITH A MOUTHFUL OF PUDDING AND A HANDFUL OF PIE.
BUT, I MANAGED TO YELL AS I SOARED PAST THE TREES....
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94918 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:17am
Subject: Re: Sycamore Creek GPS Coordinates
Unsure if these will help or not, but below are coords of the
waypoint I took where we pulled Mookie's rig out of the creek (Datum
is WGS84)
N 33 43.942
W 111 31.153
We went in at the lower section at these approximate coords
(taken using topozone.com pointer)
N 33 45.35
W 111 29.93
Your trip directions sound like you'll be entering somewhere above
(SW) of where we did.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt" <mmckeon5@c...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know the coordinates/LAT/LON along Sycamore Creek Trail
ride? Any GPS info on this trail ride would be helpful as I am
leading a trail ride on Saturday.
>
> Thanks,
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94919 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:32am
Subject: Re: JEEP THANG From IRAQ
Hey, that's great news, Larry! Congratulations on being able to get home
for the holidays.
I also want to say "Thank You!" to you and all the other men and women in
Iraq who are doing their duty and serving their country. I'm proud of all
of you.
Dave
--- Larry George <jeep_thang@h...> wrote:
> WOOOOHOOOOO
>
>
> This is jeep thang writing from Somewhere between Baghdad and Balad
> Iraq. Just checking in to see what's the latest on the list. I am so
> happy, I have been away from my family since Feb. 10 of 03 and have
> missed my family so much. And I just found out that I will be able to
> come home on leave Dec.12th that puts me home for Christmas. Sadly I
> have to leave again but that is OK, it will only be a few months
> after that that I will be home for good. I don't know if anyone cares
> but I just want to tell everyone in the world. I have never been so
> happy in my life with two exceptions.
> So with that out of the way. How is everybody doing back home. I
> did check in a little while ago and read a couple of things about
> someone being in a coma. Can't recall when or what for. I don't get
> alot of time to play on the internet so I was wandering if someone
> can let me know who it was and how they are doing now. I think that
> it was because of an accident or something. Can you guys on the club
> send my regards and hope for a good recovery to them. I think that it
> was Sharky actually now that I mention it, but I am not sure. Well I
> need to get back to my duties. Wheel a couple for me.
>
> JEEP THANG
> Larry, Carmen and Getting Bigger Lil Emily
> '87 Wrangler, Locked Lifted and Bent a little.
>
>
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94920 From: <tandljacobson@a...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 2:33am
Subject: Re: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
I'll second Scott's comments. Either John at Hunter Offroad, Todd at Desert
Fab, or the Guys at 4-Wheelers Supply COULD all do the weld job. But that bar
is pretty much useless. In fact, if you've lifted the Jeep, kept the rear
trackbar installed and not used a relocation bracket at the axle mount end, it's
only a matter of time before the bar pulls out of the stock mount (if you
wheel it). Ditch it and see what you think.
Tom
Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:41:53 -0000
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
Subject: Re: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
While I agree John is the man to see, i would just toss the rear
trackbar, as you dont need it on a yj. (unless you have converted to
coils or something.) Take it off and see if you can even tell a
difference, I bet you can't other than a little more flex offroad.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hunter Offroad. (480) 557-7577
>
> Joe F. West
> Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
> Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
> Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:57 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
>
> I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the
axel is major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this
one cut off, and another fashioned and replaced.
>
> Anyone ?
>
> mykliv@h...
>
> Thanks !!
>
> Michael Forer
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94895 From: george Andrews <gandre01@m...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:08pm
Subject: Fw: Shackle Reversal Kits
Check this link out:
http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/susp/elkcahs/
George Andrews
'83 Cherokee
'73 Wagoneer
'93 Grand Cherokee
'00 Wrangler
----- Original Message -----
From: TODD MCCULLEN
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:38 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Shackle Reversal Kits
I would recommend that any bolt on reversal kit you buy, weld it all on. I
repair or redo at least one a month of these kits that are bolted on. The
kits are fine if you do not use it off-road.
Todd
www.desertfab.com
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94896 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:57pm
Subject: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the axel is major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this one cut off, and another fashioned and replaced.
Anyone ?
mykliv@h...
Thanks !!
Michael Forer
94897 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:23pm
Subject: RE: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
Hunter Offroad. (480) 557-7577
Joe F. West
Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:57 PM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the axel is major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this one cut off, and another fashioned and replaced.
Anyone ?
mykliv@h...
Thanks !!
Michael Forer
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94898 From: Eric Marcus <3timejeepin@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 5:47pm
Subject: bolt pattern for jeep wrangler??
What is it?? And how much back spacing for a 4 inch lift with 33 12.5s
on 17's
Eric Marcus
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94899 From: Halverson <byrnec@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:00pm
Subject: Re: JEEP THANG From IRAQ
Good for you and Sharky is getting better. Thanks for taking care of us in
Iraq.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry George" <jeep_thang@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 3:10 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] JEEP THANG From IRAQ
> WOOOOHOOOOO
>
>
> This is jeep thang writing from Somewhere between Baghdad and Balad
> Iraq. Just checking in to see what's the latest on the list. I am so
> happy, I have been away from my family since Feb. 10 of 03 and have
> missed my family so much. And I just found out that I will be able to
> come home on leave Dec.12th that puts me home for Christmas. Sadly I
> have to leave again but that is OK, it will only be a few months
> after that that I will be home for good. I don't know if anyone cares
> but I just want to tell everyone in the world. I have never been so
> happy in my life with two exceptions.
> So with that out of the way. How is everybody doing back home. I
> did check in a little while ago and read a couple of things about
> someone being in a coma. Can't recall when or what for. I don't get
> alot of time to play on the internet so I was wandering if someone
> can let me know who it was and how they are doing now. I think that
> it was because of an accident or something. Can you guys on the club
> send my regards and hope for a good recovery to them. I think that it
> was Sharky actually now that I mention it, but I am not sure. Well I
> need to get back to my duties. Wheel a couple for me.
>
> JEEP THANG
> Larry, Carmen and Getting Bigger Lil Emily
> '87 Wrangler, Locked Lifted and Bent a little.
>
>
>
>
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>
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94900 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:41pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
While I agree John is the man to see, i would just toss the rear
trackbar, as you dont need it on a yj. (unless you have converted to
coils or something.) Take it off and see if you can even tell a
difference, I bet you can't other than a little more flex offroad.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hunter Offroad. (480) 557-7577
>
> Joe F. West
> Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
> Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
> Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:57 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
>
> I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the
axel is major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this
one cut off, and another fashioned and replaced.
>
> Anyone ?
>
> mykliv@h...
>
> Thanks !!
>
> Michael Forer
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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94901 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:46pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
Second Hunter. I went upside down at Jambo and my cage didn't flinch!
;-)
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe West" <joe.west@s...>
To: <mykliv@h...>; "AzVJC" <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:23 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
> Hunter Offroad. (480) 557-7577
>
> Joe F. West
> Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
> Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
> Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:57 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
>
> I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the axel is
major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this one cut off,
and another fashioned and replaced.
>
> Anyone ?
>
> mykliv@h...
>
> Thanks !!
>
> Michael Forer
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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>
>
>
>
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94902 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:09pm
Subject: RE: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
Toys by Troy does great fab work. 623-879-8697
Stu
-
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 12:57 AM
To: AzVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the axel is
major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this one cut
off, and another fashioned and replaced.
-Anyone ?
mykliv@h...
Thanks !!
Michael Forer
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94904 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:45pm
Subject: Re: WATCH YOUR SPARES !!!
Every now & then some one stops in with 4 tires (spares) stating that they bought them at the swap meet yea right
----- Original Message -----
From: Jason Blank
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 8:36 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] WATCH YOUR SPARES !!!
Someone on the I-17 and Union Hills is steeling spare tyres, maybe he/she
is looking to make a set !
Mine was stolen black fake bead locker 33*12.50-15. Just an FYI...
At least that spare was bent as hell, It was only good for a spare...
Jason
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94905 From: jeff misischia <g4mannn@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:14pm
Subject: Re: Re: Shackle inversion kit?
got mine from RE and love it!
jeff
95YJ
--- Dave Rubinstein <skydivebum@y...> wrote:
> Hi Rayne,
> I installed a shackle reversal kit years ago and I
> love it. Better on road handling and the off roading
> is great. My best suggestion, however, is to get
> some
> "anti-kickback" shackles. When you put the shackles
> in
> the rear the Jeep will nose dive a little during
> breaking. Nothing to worry about, it'll be like you
> would experience in your car. The problem will be
> occur during a hard "panic" breaking situation; hard
> breaking may cause the shackles to invert and slam
> up
> against the frame where they will stay until you
> jack
> up the vehicle and apply allot of force with a crow
> bar to get them back. This situation can also occur
> during the extreme articulation of off roading. Not
> fun, been there done that. The anti-kickback
> shackles
> will alleviate that problem.
> Good luck, you'll love the new ride. No more having
> to
> keep a death grip on the steering when going over
> nasty bumps or bad rail road tracks at highway
> speed.
> Dave
> --- blueazjeep <blueazjeep@y...> wrote:
> > I have not personally done one myself yet(plan
> to),
> > but I have heard
> > nothing but good things about them. However, I
> have
> > never heard of
> > the Trailmaster setup.
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Rayne gray"
> > <raynegray@h...> wrote:
> > > Hey Folks,
> > >
> > > I am considering a shackle inversion on my 84
> cj7
> > and I have a my
> > eye on a
> > > "trail master" inversion kit on ebay. It is a
> > bolt on set up. Any
> > feed
> > > back on this piece of equipment and shackle
> > inversions in general?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Rayne
> > > 84cj7
> > >
> > >
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94906 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:35pm
Subject: [TR] Martinez Cabin - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading a Martinez Cabin trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Saturday December 6 2003
Where:
Rating: 2.5+
Length: All day
CB Channel: 8
This is the Second Annual AZVJC Toys For Tots toy collection (we hope to make this an annual event.) This year we are going to have it where we were supposed to have it last time, at the Jamboree campground. Actually, we'll be right at the gate entrance off of SR79. We won't be leading any runs or providing any food this time (sorry). All we ask is for a new unwapped gift. If anyone out there wants to lead a run,I need to know buy the 29th of NOV.I still need leaders as of 11-19-03 Thanks!!!<br>
We will also have a Toys For Tots drop off box at the BBQ for people who can not make the run.
Martinez Cabin is a wonderful trail for the "new" 4-wheeler with his stock vehicle and family.<br>
<br>
This trail will take you into Martinez Canyon which has to be one of the most beautiful canyons in the area, in league with Sedona red bluffs!! <br>
<br>
You can have lunch under the Cottonwood trees at the old homestead and you may explore the old mill.<br>
<br>
Stock vehicle, stock tires and novice drivers, this would be a wonderful trail for you!!<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=809
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94907 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:35pm
Subject: [TR] Jack Handle - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading a Jack Handle trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Start time around 8am
Where: TOYS FOR TOTS RUN
Rating: 3.5+
Length:
CB Channel: 8
This is one of the trails that we will be running on <br>
Dec.6th The Leader for this run will be Tom Jacobson.(Thanks Tom!)
Jack Handle is a nice but fairly short loop trail that has a number of challenging obstacles. It starts out in a fairly flat wash. It then winds around as the trail gets tighter and tighter.<br>
<br>
There are a few small waterfalls and many table sized boulders to navigate along the way, including a fairly narrow slot that you have to scramble up. This slot makes it a very tight squeeze for full size vehicles (and probably not advisable). The trail can be run in about 2 hours or so.<br>
<br>
The first guy to run this trail didn't see one boulder and ended up using his jack handle as a temporary tie rod to finish the trail so keep your eyes open along the way. When you think you at the end, the trail juts up out on the wash and gives you a view of the whole area. Then you are in for a few roller coasters and a steep drop back to where you started.<br>
<br>
This is not a trail to be tried unless you are an experienced 4-wheeler with a well equipped vehicle. High clearance and some traction devices are required. Water and your camera are a must.<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
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94908 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:36pm
Subject: [TR] Highway to Hell - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading a Highway to Hell trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Start around 8am
Where:
Rating: 4.5+
Length:
CB Channel: 8
This is one of the trails that we will be diong for the TOYS FOR TOTS run. The leader for this run will be <br>
Steve Sample. (Thanks Steve!)
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1109
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94909 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:36pm
Subject: [TR] Powerline Trail - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading a Powerline Trail trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Start around 8am
Where:
Rating: 3.5
Length:
CB Channel: 8
This is on of the trails that we will be doing for the TOYS FOR TOTS run. The leader for this run will be Robert Roger.(Thanks Robert!)
The Powerline Trail does a figure 8 as you travel along the powerline, up a off-camber hill and then back down to a grassy meadow and back up another slippery "switchback" trail.<br>
<br>
This trail is truly a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler. Some type of locking device is recommended, as well as clearance and 31' tires. Totally stock vehicles and/or novice drivers are not recommended. This is an all day trip. Don't forget your lunch & water.<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1110
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Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94910 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:36pm
Subject: [TR] Ajax (Lower) - Saturday, December 6, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Jeff Titus is leading an Ajax (Lower) trail run on Saturday, December 6, 2003.<br><br>When: Start time around 8am
Where:
Rating: 3.5+
Length:
CB Channel: 8
This is one of the trails that we will be doing for the TOYS FOR TOTS run. The leader of this run will be <br>
Steve James. (Thanks Steve!)
Lower Ajax wash crosses and continues along portions of the road to the Ajax Mine. It is the typical "wash;" for the most part you cross over and around the rock obstacles. There are a few 2 - 4 ft. waterfalls or narrow rock areas to find your way over or through but there are several by-passes. The wash is set among the rolling hills below the Ajax Mine.<br>
<br>
This trail is fun and a challenge for the moderate 4-wheeler, although this trail is not for the inexperienced driver nor a stock vehicle.<br>
<br>
A rear Traction Device, and 31" + tires are required..<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1108
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94911 From: bgc3 <bg3@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:55pm
Subject: oil sending unit
94912 From: bgc3 <bg3@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:00pm
Subject: oil sending unit
I found the proper sending unit at my local parts store for my 97 TJ.
There are two listed one is a single post and the other is a dual
postunit.
Both are avail and the dual post is 48.00 if anyone needs one let my
know and I will direct you to him.
He is an old school type of parts store uses the books and pictures
instead of what the computer says.
Byron
97 TJ
Mesa
94913 From: bgc3 <bg3@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 25, 2003 9:00pm
Subject: oil sending unit
I found the proper sending unit at my local parts store for my 97 TJ.
There are two listed one is a single post and the other is a dual
postunit.
Both are avail and the dual post is 48.00 if anyone needs one let my
know and I will direct you to him.
He is an old school type of parts store uses the books and pictures
instead of what the computer says.
Byron
97 TJ
Mesa
94914 From: Dave Rubinstein <skydivebum@y...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 4:54am
Subject: Re: Re: Shackle inversion kit?
You know what, you're right. The one time they did
reverse on me during breaking was a breaking test I
did when I installed rear disc brakes and I had too
much forward breaking. Ever since then I was paranoid
it would happen again until I installed the
anti-kickback shackels. But it never did.
Dave
--- Craig Micek <micekc@e...> wrote:
> Dave, I would have to argue that a correctly done
> shackle reversal should
> never get locked up due to heavy braking. If it
> does, the upper pivot is
> either to far forward or back and or the shackles
> are of the wrong length.
>
> The anit kickback shackles are a wonderful idea for
> wheeling though.
> Articulation and the extra pressures caused by the
> rocks will push and pull
> the springs past the point of no return. Many times
> resulting in a bent or
> broken spring. The anit kickback shackles will
> often prevent this from
> happening.
>
> Craig
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Rubinstein" <skydivebum@y...>
> To: "blueazjeep" <blueazjeep@y...>;
> <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Shackle inversion kit?
>
>
> > Hi Rayne,
> > I installed a shackle reversal kit years ago and
> I
> > love it. Better on road handling and the off
> roading
> > is great. My best suggestion, however, is to get
> some
> > "anti-kickback" shackles. When you put the
> shackles in
> > the rear the Jeep will nose dive a little during
> > breaking. Nothing to worry about, it'll be like
> you
> > would experience in your car. The problem will be
> > occur during a hard "panic" breaking situation;
> hard
> > breaking may cause the shackles to invert and slam
> up
> > against the frame where they will stay until you
> jack
> > up the vehicle and apply allot of force with a
> crow
> > bar to get them back. This situation can also
> occur
> > during the extreme articulation of off roading.
> Not
> > fun, been there done that. The anti-kickback
> shackles
> > will alleviate that problem.
> > Good luck, you'll love the new ride. No more
> having to
> > keep a death grip on the steering when going over
> > nasty bumps or bad rail road tracks at highway
> speed.
> > Dave
> > --- blueazjeep <blueazjeep@y...> wrote:
> > > I have not personally done one myself yet(plan
> to),
> > > but I have heard
> > > nothing but good things about them. However, I
> have
> > > never heard of
> > > the Trailmaster setup.
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Rayne gray"
> > > <raynegray@h...> wrote:
> > > > Hey Folks,
> > > >
> > > > I am considering a shackle inversion on my 84
> cj7
> > > and I have a my
> > > eye on a
> > > > "trail master" inversion kit on ebay. It is a
> > > bolt on set up. Any
> > > feed
> > > > back on this piece of equipment and shackle
> > > inversions in general?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Rayne
> > > > 84cj7
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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94915 From: Matt <mmckeon5@c...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:01am
Subject: Sycamore Creek GPS Coordinates
Hello,
Does anyone know the coordinates/LAT/LON along Sycamore Creek Trail ride? Any GPS info on this trail ride would be helpful as I am leading a trail ride on Saturday.
Thanks,
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94916 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:48am
Subject: Re: bolt pattern for jeep wrangler??
I think all Jeep Wrangler models are 5-4.5. Backspacing changes by by
tire width, so, for example, if you have 5.5" backspacing on 15x7
wheels, look for the same for 17x7 wheels. I think for 33x12.50s you
will need to look at 4.5" backspacing to keep the tire scrub radius
intact.
Have you found a good source for reasonably priced 17" wheels? I have
been looking, but I haven't found much for 8-bolt wheels yet. It
seems that they are being made mostly in 5 and 6-bolt patterns.
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Marcus" <3timejeepin@c...> wrote:
> What is it?? And how much back spacing for a 4 inch lift with 33
12.5s
> on 17's
>
> Eric Marcus
>
>
>
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94917 From: Jason Blank <rockrdr@h...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 6:58am
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving !!!
TWAS THE NIGHT OF THANKSGIVING, I JUST COULDN'T SLEEP
I TRIED COUNTING BACKWARDS, I TRIED COUNTING SHEEP.
THE LEFTOVERS BECKONED - THE DARK MEAT AND WHITE
BUT I FOUGHT THE TEMPTATION WITH ALL OF MY MIGHT
TOSSING AND TURNING WITH ANTICIPATION
THE THOUGHT OF A SNACK BECAME INFATUATION.
SO, I RACED TO THE KITCHEN, FLUNG OPEN THE DOOR
AND GAZED AT THE FRIDGE, FULL OF GOODIES GALORE.
I GOBBLED UP TURKEY AND BUTTERED POTATOES,
PICKLES AND CARROTS, BEANS AND TOMATOES.
I FELT MYSELF SWELLING SO PLUMP AND SO ROUND,
'TIL ALL OF A SUDDEN, I ROSE OFF THE GROUND.
I CRASHED THROUGH THE CEILING, FLOATING INTO THE
SKY WITH A MOUTHFUL OF PUDDING AND A HANDFUL OF PIE.
BUT, I MANAGED TO YELL AS I SOARED PAST THE TREES....
HAPPY EATING TO ALL - PASS THE CRANBERRIES, PLEASE.
MAY YOUR STUFFING BE TASTY, MAY YOUR TURKEY BE
PLUMP. MAY YOUR POTATOES 'N GRAVY HAVE NARY A LUMP,
MAY YOUR YAMS BE DELICIOUS MAY YOUR PIES TAKE THE PRIZE,
MAY YOUR THANKSGIVING DINNER STAY OFF OF YOUR THIGHS.
MAY YOUR THANKSGIVING BE GREAT!!
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94918 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:17am
Subject: Re: Sycamore Creek GPS Coordinates
Unsure if these will help or not, but below are coords of the
waypoint I took where we pulled Mookie's rig out of the creek (Datum
is WGS84)
N 33 43.942
W 111 31.153
We went in at the lower section at these approximate coords
(taken using topozone.com pointer)
N 33 45.35
W 111 29.93
Your trip directions sound like you'll be entering somewhere above
(SW) of where we did.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt" <mmckeon5@c...> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone know the coordinates/LAT/LON along Sycamore Creek Trail
ride? Any GPS info on this trail ride would be helpful as I am
leading a trail ride on Saturday.
>
> Thanks,
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94919 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 7:32am
Subject: Re: JEEP THANG From IRAQ
Hey, that's great news, Larry! Congratulations on being able to get home
for the holidays.
I also want to say "Thank You!" to you and all the other men and women in
Iraq who are doing their duty and serving their country. I'm proud of all
of you.
Dave
--- Larry George <jeep_thang@h...> wrote:
> WOOOOHOOOOO
>
>
> This is jeep thang writing from Somewhere between Baghdad and Balad
> Iraq. Just checking in to see what's the latest on the list. I am so
> happy, I have been away from my family since Feb. 10 of 03 and have
> missed my family so much. And I just found out that I will be able to
> come home on leave Dec.12th that puts me home for Christmas. Sadly I
> have to leave again but that is OK, it will only be a few months
> after that that I will be home for good. I don't know if anyone cares
> but I just want to tell everyone in the world. I have never been so
> happy in my life with two exceptions.
> So with that out of the way. How is everybody doing back home. I
> did check in a little while ago and read a couple of things about
> someone being in a coma. Can't recall when or what for. I don't get
> alot of time to play on the internet so I was wandering if someone
> can let me know who it was and how they are doing now. I think that
> it was because of an accident or something. Can you guys on the club
> send my regards and hope for a good recovery to them. I think that it
> was Sharky actually now that I mention it, but I am not sure. Well I
> need to get back to my duties. Wheel a couple for me.
>
> JEEP THANG
> Larry, Carmen and Getting Bigger Lil Emily
> '87 Wrangler, Locked Lifted and Bent a little.
>
>
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94920 From: <tandljacobson@a...>
Date: Wed Nov 26, 2003 2:33am
Subject: Re: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
I'll second Scott's comments. Either John at Hunter Offroad, Todd at Desert
Fab, or the Guys at 4-Wheelers Supply COULD all do the weld job. But that bar
is pretty much useless. In fact, if you've lifted the Jeep, kept the rear
trackbar installed and not used a relocation bracket at the axle mount end, it's
only a matter of time before the bar pulls out of the stock mount (if you
wheel it). Ditch it and see what you think.
Tom
Message: 2
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 02:41:53 -0000
From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
Subject: Re: [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
While I agree John is the man to see, i would just toss the rear
trackbar, as you dont need it on a yj. (unless you have converted to
coils or something.) Take it off and see if you can even tell a
difference, I bet you can't other than a little more flex offroad.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> Hunter Offroad. (480) 557-7577
>
> Joe F. West
> Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
> Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
> Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:57 PM
> To: AzVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] [Tech] 1994 Sahara YJ - I need a good Fab shop !!
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone here could suggest a good fab shop ?
>
> I found that the bracket that conects the rear track bar to the
axel is major cracked !! I'm thinking it can be welded back or, this
one cut off, and another fashioned and replaced.
>
> Anyone ?
>
> mykliv@h...
>
> Thanks !!
>
> Michael Forer
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