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94620 From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:23am
Subject: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
Thanks,
$50XJ
David Withers
87 XJ
www.withersdavid.com
dwithers@w...
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94621 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:27am
Subject: Re: wheel sizes for TJs with WJ brakes
Bling bling baby....
On Nov 17, 2003, at 11:57 PM, Mitch Woodward wrote:
> I still want some 33x12.5R20 for my f-150.
>
> Mitch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> To: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
> Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] wheel sizes for TJs with WJ brakes
>
>
>> Ah -- what's a few bucks! ;-) Yeah, I know. It isn't cheap to make
>> switches like that. I think I spent close to $1600 on the first round
>> of
>> 16x8s and tires for the ZJ, but I did it on purpose to eventually put
>> bigger brakes on the car since large tires need large brakes,
>> especially
>> for street use. But I never got around to it. The Willys is getting
>> all
>> the right stuff the first time.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> Chris Krieg wrote:
>>>
>>> Because I already have reasonably new tires and wheels on the TJ. I'd
>>> lose too much selling them and buying new ones, especially with the
>>> sweet deal Rick B hook me up with for the wheels.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2003, at 4:20 PM, Linda wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> I know this is a silly question to ask, but why not go to larger
>>>> diameter wheels and get the added stability that goes along with
>>>> them?
>>>>
>>>> Linda
>>>>
>>>> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...> wrote:
>>>>> Good for them. At least they are doing something to their rig.
>>>>>
>>>>> Honestly, why all the Hummer and other rig bashing? Insecurity
>>>> about
>>>>> our Jeeps?
>>>>> Who cares what everyone else drives. To each his/her own. Can we
>>>> just
>>>>> let it rest?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know, lets talk about Jeeps. Anyone do any cool mods lately? I'm
>>>>> starting the work to try to fit WJ brakes to my TJ. I already have
>>>> the
>>>>> knuckles so the brakes are the next logical step. I have some
>>>> calipers
>>>>> and mounts for them. I know which rotors to use and what kind of
>>>>> spacers are needed to go with my Warn Hub conversion. Now all I
>>>> have to
>>>>> do is dry fit them and see how much caliper grinding I'll have to
>>>> do to
>>>>> clear my 15" aluminum wheels.
>>>>> If all goes well, I'll switch to the bigger front WJ brakes and
>>>> rear ZJ
>>>>> disks.
>>>>> I'm also finally going to put a steering stabilizer on and hood
>>>> vents.
>>>>> Maybe a new custom air cleaner housing also.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>
>>
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94622 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:32am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns
I'm in!!
RICK BEER wrote:
>I would like to plan a weekend in January to make a treck down to Karchner caverns to check out one of the amazing sites in Arizona so I need to know if I can get a group together so I can make reservation for a tour tickets are $22.95 for adults $12.95 for children ages 7-13 children younger than 7 are not allowed sorry I did not make this rule tours run 7 days a week 16 tours per day tours are limited to 15 people if I get more than 15 people I will set up 2 or more tours if needed I would like to do some wheelin also so I up for suggestions on any trails near the area
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>http://www.kartchnercave.com/Parks/parkhtml/kartchner.html
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94623 From: Ken Henson <khenson@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:53am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns - FYI
Information:
http://www.pr.state.az.us/Parks/parkhtml/kartchner.html
Fees:
http://www.pr.state.az.us/feeschedule.html
- Ken Henson
Prescott
94624 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:22am
Subject: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
Any way, your options are:
(1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
(2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
(3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
of your time.
(4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
(5) Weld it? Nah.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W <fiftydollarxj@y...> wrote:
> What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
> Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
>
> FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> Thanks,
> $50XJ
>
>
>
> David Withers
> 87 XJ
> www.withersdavid.com
> dwithers@w...
94625 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:25am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns - small kids
Checking the website, I didn't see any mention of children under 7
not allowed. The price guide lists ages 7-13, but that may just
indicate children 6 and under are free. They also mention in the tour
section...
Information for Parents:
It is not uncommon for young children, six years and under, to become
uncomfortable in the cave environment. In these instances, the child
and parent will be allowed to leave the cave tour, for their well-
being and safety. Please inquire upon check-in, if you have any
concerns.
This implies small children are not excluded at all. Anyone with kids
6 and under who want to go might want give them a call to be sure.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "RICK BEER" <RIKNAZ@M...> wrote:
> I would like to plan a weekend in January to make a treck down to
Karchner caverns to check out one of the amazing sites in
Arizona so I need to know if I can get a group together so I
can make reservation for a tour tickets are $22.95 for adults
$12.95 for children ages 7-13 children younger than 7 are not
allowed sorry I did not make this rule tours run 7 days a week
16 tours per day tours are limited to 15 people if I get more than 15
people I will set up 2 or more tours if needed I would like to do
some wheelin also so I up for suggestions on any trails near the area
>
>
>
>
>
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> http://www.kartchnercave.com/Parks/parkhtml/kartchner.html
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94626 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:23am
Subject: Re: Bust out the kleenex...
Hey now I resemble that remark about entry level Jeep...LOL
Chris
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> From what I hear, the whole Chrysler line-up is considered dated
by
> DC. The Chrysler engineers and designers are really scrambling to
come
> up with new ideas to keep their products ahead of the pack. That
> doesn't mean functional or fun. What it means is making money.
> Automobile companies in the businss to make a profit. The idea
that
> they must keep a 'tradition' alive for the sentimental reasons is
a
> bunch of BS. It will be interesting to see what variations they
come
> up with.
>
> I like the WJs, but I wouldn't buy one anymore than I would buy
any
> new Jeep product. It's not DC-Jeep's designs, it's because of
> emissions and fuel efficiency agreements (laws) that have forced
auto
> makers to use computer programs to run the vehicles.
>
> DC-Jeep announced a while back that they are coming out with a new
> entry level SUV. I can't imagine anything more entry level than a
> Wrangler with a 4-cyl, stick shift, and a rag top.
>
> Linda
> 54 wagon
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick N" <nnote@d...> wrote:
> > http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-11-16-jeep_x.htm
> >
> > Nick
> > http://members.cox.net/nnote/
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94627 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:27am
Subject: Re: Bust out the kleenex...
Why would we want them to do that?
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
wrote:
> Maybe DC will sell Jeep to GMC or Ford. We can only hope.
>
> Tony
>
> Linda wrote:
>
> >>From what I hear, the whole Chrysler line-up is considered dated
by
> >DC. The Chrysler engineers and designers are really scrambling to
come
> >up with new ideas to keep their products ahead of the pack. That
> >doesn't mean functional or fun. What it means is making money.
> >Automobile companies in the businss to make a profit. The idea
that
> >they must keep a 'tradition' alive for the sentimental reasons is
a
> >bunch of BS. It will be interesting to see what variations they
come
> >up with.
> >
> >I like the WJs, but I wouldn't buy one anymore than I would buy
any
> >new Jeep product. It's not DC-Jeep's designs, it's because of
> >emissions and fuel efficiency agreements (laws) that have forced
auto
> >makers to use computer programs to run the vehicles.
> >
> >DC-Jeep announced a while back that they are coming out with a
new
> >entry level SUV. I can't imagine anything more entry level than a
> >Wrangler with a 4-cyl, stick shift, and a rag top.
> >
> >Linda
> >54 wagon
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick N" <nnote@d...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-11-16-jeep_x.htm
> >>
> >>Nick
> >>http://members.cox.net/nnote/
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94628 From: katvans1 <rjentaz@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:48am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns - small kids
Matt
Keep reading, Rotunda room children OK, Big room 6 & under not
allowed.
Big Room Tour: Length: 1/2 mile Time: 1 3/4 hr. (leaving
approximately every 20 minutes)
The Kartchner Caverns story is one of amazing discoveries...both
past and present. Stand where the discoverers first entered the
cave. Marvel at the strange and colorful formations. Learn about
cave inhabitants, both ancient and living. As scientific studies
continue, discoveries are yet to be made. The Big Room tour is a
longer and more physically challenging tour. Children age 6 and
under are not allowed on the tour.
Rich
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> Checking the website, I didn't see any mention of children under 7
> not allowed. The price guide lists ages 7-13, but that may just
> indicate children 6 and under are free. They also mention in the
tour
> section...
>
> Information for Parents:
> It is not uncommon for young children, six years and under, to
become
> uncomfortable in the cave environment. In these instances, the
child
> and parent will be allowed to leave the cave tour, for their well-
> being and safety. Please inquire upon check-in, if you have any
> concerns.
>
> This implies small children are not excluded at all. Anyone with
kids
> 6 and under who want to go might want give them a call to be sure.
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "RICK BEER" <RIKNAZ@M...> wrote:
> > I would like to plan a weekend in January to make a treck down
to
> Karchner caverns to check out one of the amazing sites in
> Arizona so I need to know if I can get a group together so
I
> can make reservation for a tour tickets are $22.95 for adults
> $12.95 for children ages 7-13 children younger than 7 are not
> allowed sorry I did not make this rule tours run 7 days a
week
> 16 tours per day tours are limited to 15 people if I get more than
15
> people I will set up 2 or more tours if needed I would like to
do
> some wheelin also so I up for suggestions on any trails near the
area
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.kartchnercave.com/Parks/parkhtml/kartchner.html
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94629 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:50am
Subject: RE: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
D W, I have a different opinion then Roger here. I believe there was a
reason the disconnect is there. I am not sure but I think it is has
something to do with the transfercase. In my 93 YJ the transfercase does
not have a true neutral or a CV driveshaft. You could pick up some
vibrations from the drive shaft because it will be constantly turning. I
have a locker so the drive shaft turns all the time. I experience the
Jeep jerking when making slow tight turns on the road. This happens in
neutral or in gear. I did not have this issue when the drive shaft did
not turn.
My suggestion would be to save or fabricate your own disconnect cable.
You may also be able to use some kind of air switch to change the vacuum
and have it manually engage or disengage.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:22 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
Any way, your options are:
(1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
(2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
(3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
of your time.
(4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
(5) Weld it? Nah.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W <fiftydollarxj@y...> wrote:
> What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
> Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
>
> FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> Thanks,
> $50XJ
>
>
>
> David Withers
> 87 XJ
> www.withersdavid.com
> dwithers@w...
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94630 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:09am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns - small kids
Thanks - I apparently missed that part. Good to know I can still
bring my little ones there before they turn 7 :)
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "katvans1" <rjentaz@d...> wrote:
> Keep reading, Rotunda room children OK, Big room 6 & under not
> allowed.
94631 From: joesjeep2003 <jeepfreak1@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:12am
Subject: California Tops
Ok. I need a new top for my CJ7. I ran across California Tops.
They're making a half top for the CJ7 that sales for $350.00. Yeah
sounds to good. I was hoping maybe someone would know something about
them and give me a heads up. Thanks
Joe
94632 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:13am
Subject: RE: California Tops
No first hand experience but have heard some bad thing about Ca. tops..
Something about fit and customer service.. It's been awhile back though.
Keith
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94633 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:25am
Subject: RE: California Tops
Same thing I heard... I think that there was a thread on jeepsunlimited.com
Joe West
Joe F. West
Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
-----Original Message-----
From: joesjeep2003 [mailto:jeepfreak1@j...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 10:13 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] California Tops
Ok. I need a new top for my CJ7. I ran across California Tops.
They're making a half top for the CJ7 that sales for $350.00. Yeah
sounds to good. I was hoping maybe someone would know something about
them and give me a heads up. Thanks
Joe
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94634 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:30am
Subject: Re: FS:Howell FI
That was pretty fast. SOLD!
Craig
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To: "AzVJC" <az_vjc@YahooGroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 10:44 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] FS:Howell FI
> I just posted my fuel injection for sale in the classifieds. Anyone
interested?
>
> Craig
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94635 From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:07am
Subject: RE: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
In regards to this comment
"Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!"
Yeah, it's been a while. So who the new AZVJC *****???!!!!
DesertJeep <joey@d...> wrote:
D W, I have a different opinion then Roger here. I believe there was a
reason the disconnect is there. I am not sure but I think it is has
something to do with the transfercase. In my 93 YJ the transfercase does
not have a true neutral or a CV driveshaft. You could pick up some
vibrations from the drive shaft because it will be constantly turning. I
have a locker so the drive shaft turns all the time. I experience the
Jeep jerking when making slow tight turns on the road. This happens in
neutral or in gear. I did not have this issue when the drive shaft did
not turn.
My suggestion would be to save or fabricate your own disconnect cable.
You may also be able to use some kind of air switch to change the vacuum
and have it manually engage or disengage.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:22 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
Any way, your options are:
(1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
(2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
(3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
of your time.
(4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
(5) Weld it? Nah.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W wrote:
> What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
> Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
>
> FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> Thanks,
> $50XJ
>
>
>
> David Withers
> 87 XJ
> www.withersdavid.com
> dwithers@w...
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87 XJ
www.withersdavid.com
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94636 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:07am
Subject: Re: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
I believe that Joey is correct. If you install a one piece axle in the
front you will have full time 4WD. That is why Warn has locking hubs with their
conversion. Not a cheap way to go but if you want the strength of a D44 and
want to use a locker and get rid of the vacuum disconnect that would be the
way to go. I went with the 5 x 5.5 kit which gives you stronger locking hubs.
Now having said all of that, even though the Warn axles are strong you still
have D30 tubes, you would want to install a truss to keep the tubes from
flexing, I didnt and ended up grenading my locker and my R&Ps on a 4.5 trail. On
the bright side, my axles and ujoints held up :-). Detroit told me that if
I would have had the axle trussed that would not have happened and they would
have considered replacing the locker under warranty.
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94637 From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:12am
Subject: Re: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
It's a $50 XJ, hince the name
IF it was my old ChiliPepper, maybe I might worry about it
Fulltime 4x4 might not be a bad idea here in WY with about 3 to 5 inches of snow a day
RokkCrawler@a... wrote:
I believe that Joey is correct. If you install a one piece axle in the front you will have full time 4WD. That is why Warn has locking hubs with their conversion. Not a cheap way to go but if you want the strength of a D44 and want to use a locker and get rid of the vacuum disconnect that would be the way to go. I went with the 5 x 5.5 kit which gives you stronger locking hubs. Now having said all of that, even though the Warn axles are strong you still have D30 tubes, you would want to install a truss to keep the tubes from flexing, I didnt and ended up grenading my locker and my R&Ps on a 4.5 trail. On the bright side, my axles and ujoints held up :-). Detroit told me that if I would have had the axle trussed that would not have happened and they would have considered replacing the locker under warranty.
David Withers
87 XJ
www.withersdavid.com
dwithers@w...
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94638 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:36am
Subject: RE: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
David, No one will/can ever take your place. ;)
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: D W [mailto:fiftydollarxj@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:08 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'tomas2691'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
In regards to this comment
"Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!"
Yeah, it's been a while. So who the new AZVJC *****???!!!!
DesertJeep <joey@d...> wrote:
D W, I have a different opinion then Roger here. I believe there was a
reason the disconnect is there. I am not sure but I think it is has
something to do with the transfercase. In my 93 YJ the transfercase does
not have a true neutral or a CV driveshaft. You could pick up some
vibrations from the drive shaft because it will be constantly turning. I
have a locker so the drive shaft turns all the time. I experience the
Jeep jerking when making slow tight turns on the road. This happens in
neutral or in gear. I did not have this issue when the drive shaft did
not turn.
My suggestion would be to save or fabricate your own disconnect cable.
You may also be able to use some kind of air switch to change the vacuum
and have it manually engage or disengage.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:22 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
Any way, your options are:
(1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
(2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
(3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
of your time.
(4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
(5) Weld it? Nah.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W wrote:
> What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement? Can I
> just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
>
> FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> Thanks,
> $50XJ
>
>
>
> David Withers
> 87 XJ
> www.withersdavid.com
> dwithers@w...
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94639 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:54am
Subject: RE: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
The front driveshaft will be constantly turning if the front
end is locked up. If it is open, then I don't think the shaft
will spin in 2WD. But I could be wrong.
-Roger
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesertJeep [mailto:Joey@d...]
> Sent: November/18/2003 9:51 AM
> To: 'D W'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: 'tomas2691'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
>
>
> D W, I have a different opinion then Roger here. I believe there was a
> reason the disconnect is there. I am not sure but I think it is has
> something to do with the transfercase. In my 93 YJ the transfercase does
> not have a true neutral or a CV driveshaft. You could pick up some
> vibrations from the drive shaft because it will be constantly turning. I
> have a locker so the drive shaft turns all the time. I experience the
> Jeep jerking when making slow tight turns on the road. This happens in
> neutral or in gear. I did not have this issue when the drive shaft did
> not turn.
> My suggestion would be to save or fabricate your own disconnect cable.
> You may also be able to use some kind of air switch to change the vacuum
> and have it manually engage or disengage.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:22 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
>
> Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
>
> Any way, your options are:
>
> (1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
> from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
>
> (2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
>
> (3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
> the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
> permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
> of your time.
>
> (4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
>
> (5) Weld it? Nah.
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W <fiftydollarxj@y...> wrote:
> > What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
> > Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
> with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
> >
> > FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
> trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> > Thanks,
> > $50XJ
> >
> >
> >
> > David Withers
> > 87 XJ
> > www.withersdavid.com
> > dwithers@w...
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
94640 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:34am
Subject: Re: FS:Howell FI
Craig,
Just curious - why'd you sell it? Problems with it or just didn't
need it? I've got Howell EFI on my 258 and it's been flawless for
about a year now. Anything I should know?
Thanks,
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Micek" <micekc@e...> wrote:
> That was pretty fast. SOLD!
94641 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:09pm
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving [OT]
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO MY FRIENDS !!
Enjoy the love and comradarie of friends and family!
Sandee
Be sure and have your sound on!
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94642 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:16pm
Subject: Re: Bust out the kleenex...
My thoughts were Peugot or Mitsubishi.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
wrote:
> Maybe DC will sell Jeep to GMC or Ford. We can only hope.
>
> Tony
>
> Linda wrote:
>
> >>From what I hear, the whole Chrysler line-up is considered dated
by
> >DC. The Chrysler engineers and designers are really scrambling to
come
> >up with new ideas to keep their products ahead of the pack. That
> >doesn't mean functional or fun. What it means is making money.
> >Automobile companies in the businss to make a profit. The idea
that
> >they must keep a 'tradition' alive for the sentimental reasons is
a
> >bunch of BS. It will be interesting to see what variations they
come
> >up with.
> >
> >I like the WJs, but I wouldn't buy one anymore than I would buy
any
> >new Jeep product. It's not DC-Jeep's designs, it's because of
> >emissions and fuel efficiency agreements (laws) that have forced
auto
> >makers to use computer programs to run the vehicles.
> >
> >DC-Jeep announced a while back that they are coming out with a new
> >entry level SUV. I can't imagine anything more entry level than a
> >Wrangler with a 4-cyl, stick shift, and a rag top.
> >
> >Linda
> >54 wagon
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick N" <nnote@d...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-11-16-jeep_x.htm
> >>
> >>Nick
> >>http://members.cox.net/nnote/
> >>
> >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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94643 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:26pm
Subject: Re: Jeep Trailers
Okay, that makes more sense. You meant a car carrier. It is so easy
to throw the word "Jeep" in front of everything. Jeep gas cans, Jeep
tires, Jeep radios, Jeep trailers... I figured a 'Jeep trailer' was
something you towed with a Jeep. I was thinking why would anyone buy
a Jeep to haul a heavy trailer? I have seen it done, but it must have
been out of desperation or lack of funds.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Russell" <desertjeep@c...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Sorry, I guess my post was a little lacking in information. I
intend to use my motor home to pull the trailer with the Jeep on the
trailer. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Jim
> Tucson
> 76 CJ-5
>
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:34:57 -0000
> From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
> Subject: Re: Jeep Trailers
>
> I didn't know a TJ could pull a tandem axle trailer. A V8 Grand
> Cherokee can pull that weight (around 5000#), but a 6-cyl Jeep
engine
> would be at its limits.
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94644 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:11pm
Subject: Re: Re: FS:Howell FI
It worked great! It is just that my tired 258 does doesn't quite have the
oomph to spin my 38's. I loved not having to worry about it stalling at the
most inopportune time like it did prior to the install. I would recommend
it everyone. I consider it one of the best mods I have done to the CJ. In
fact the 350 I am installing in its place also has the Howell kit on it!
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FS:Howell FI
> Craig,
>
> Just curious - why'd you sell it? Problems with it or just didn't
> need it? I've got Howell EFI on my 258 and it's been flawless for
> about a year now. Anything I should know?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Micek" <micekc@e...> wrote:
> > That was pretty fast. SOLD!
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
94620 From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:23am
Subject: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
Thanks,
$50XJ
David Withers
87 XJ
www.withersdavid.com
dwithers@w...
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94621 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:27am
Subject: Re: wheel sizes for TJs with WJ brakes
Bling bling baby....
On Nov 17, 2003, at 11:57 PM, Mitch Woodward wrote:
> I still want some 33x12.5R20 for my f-150.
>
> Mitch
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linda luik" <minihummer@w...>
> To: "Chris Krieg" <rv6a@m...>
> Cc: "Arizona Virtual Jeep Club" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 9:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] wheel sizes for TJs with WJ brakes
>
>
>> Ah -- what's a few bucks! ;-) Yeah, I know. It isn't cheap to make
>> switches like that. I think I spent close to $1600 on the first round
>> of
>> 16x8s and tires for the ZJ, but I did it on purpose to eventually put
>> bigger brakes on the car since large tires need large brakes,
>> especially
>> for street use. But I never got around to it. The Willys is getting
>> all
>> the right stuff the first time.
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> Chris Krieg wrote:
>>>
>>> Because I already have reasonably new tires and wheels on the TJ. I'd
>>> lose too much selling them and buying new ones, especially with the
>>> sweet deal Rick B hook me up with for the wheels.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>> On Nov 17, 2003, at 4:20 PM, Linda wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chris,
>>>>
>>>> I know this is a silly question to ask, but why not go to larger
>>>> diameter wheels and get the added stability that goes along with
>>>> them?
>>>>
>>>> Linda
>>>>
>>>> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...> wrote:
>>>>> Good for them. At least they are doing something to their rig.
>>>>>
>>>>> Honestly, why all the Hummer and other rig bashing? Insecurity
>>>> about
>>>>> our Jeeps?
>>>>> Who cares what everyone else drives. To each his/her own. Can we
>>>> just
>>>>> let it rest?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know, lets talk about Jeeps. Anyone do any cool mods lately? I'm
>>>>> starting the work to try to fit WJ brakes to my TJ. I already have
>>>> the
>>>>> knuckles so the brakes are the next logical step. I have some
>>>> calipers
>>>>> and mounts for them. I know which rotors to use and what kind of
>>>>> spacers are needed to go with my Warn Hub conversion. Now all I
>>>> have to
>>>>> do is dry fit them and see how much caliper grinding I'll have to
>>>> do to
>>>>> clear my 15" aluminum wheels.
>>>>> If all goes well, I'll switch to the bigger front WJ brakes and
>>>> rear ZJ
>>>>> disks.
>>>>> I'm also finally going to put a steering stabilizer on and hood
>>>> vents.
>>>>> Maybe a new custom air cleaner housing also.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>
>>
>>
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94622 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:32am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns
I'm in!!
RICK BEER wrote:
>I would like to plan a weekend in January to make a treck down to Karchner caverns to check out one of the amazing sites in Arizona so I need to know if I can get a group together so I can make reservation for a tour tickets are $22.95 for adults $12.95 for children ages 7-13 children younger than 7 are not allowed sorry I did not make this rule tours run 7 days a week 16 tours per day tours are limited to 15 people if I get more than 15 people I will set up 2 or more tours if needed I would like to do some wheelin also so I up for suggestions on any trails near the area
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>http://www.kartchnercave.com/Parks/parkhtml/kartchner.html
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
>
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>
94623 From: Ken Henson <khenson@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 6:53am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns - FYI
Information:
http://www.pr.state.az.us/Parks/parkhtml/kartchner.html
Fees:
http://www.pr.state.az.us/feeschedule.html
- Ken Henson
Prescott
94624 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:22am
Subject: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
Any way, your options are:
(1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
(2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
(3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
of your time.
(4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
(5) Weld it? Nah.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W <fiftydollarxj@y...> wrote:
> What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
> Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
>
> FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> Thanks,
> $50XJ
>
>
>
> David Withers
> 87 XJ
> www.withersdavid.com
> dwithers@w...
94625 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 7:25am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns - small kids
Checking the website, I didn't see any mention of children under 7
not allowed. The price guide lists ages 7-13, but that may just
indicate children 6 and under are free. They also mention in the tour
section...
Information for Parents:
It is not uncommon for young children, six years and under, to become
uncomfortable in the cave environment. In these instances, the child
and parent will be allowed to leave the cave tour, for their well-
being and safety. Please inquire upon check-in, if you have any
concerns.
This implies small children are not excluded at all. Anyone with kids
6 and under who want to go might want give them a call to be sure.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "RICK BEER" <RIKNAZ@M...> wrote:
> I would like to plan a weekend in January to make a treck down to
Karchner caverns to check out one of the amazing sites in
Arizona so I need to know if I can get a group together so I
can make reservation for a tour tickets are $22.95 for adults
$12.95 for children ages 7-13 children younger than 7 are not
allowed sorry I did not make this rule tours run 7 days a week
16 tours per day tours are limited to 15 people if I get more than 15
people I will set up 2 or more tours if needed I would like to do
some wheelin also so I up for suggestions on any trails near the area
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> http://www.kartchnercave.com/Parks/parkhtml/kartchner.html
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94626 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:23am
Subject: Re: Bust out the kleenex...
Hey now I resemble that remark about entry level Jeep...LOL
Chris
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> From what I hear, the whole Chrysler line-up is considered dated
by
> DC. The Chrysler engineers and designers are really scrambling to
come
> up with new ideas to keep their products ahead of the pack. That
> doesn't mean functional or fun. What it means is making money.
> Automobile companies in the businss to make a profit. The idea
that
> they must keep a 'tradition' alive for the sentimental reasons is
a
> bunch of BS. It will be interesting to see what variations they
come
> up with.
>
> I like the WJs, but I wouldn't buy one anymore than I would buy
any
> new Jeep product. It's not DC-Jeep's designs, it's because of
> emissions and fuel efficiency agreements (laws) that have forced
auto
> makers to use computer programs to run the vehicles.
>
> DC-Jeep announced a while back that they are coming out with a new
> entry level SUV. I can't imagine anything more entry level than a
> Wrangler with a 4-cyl, stick shift, and a rag top.
>
> Linda
> 54 wagon
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick N" <nnote@d...> wrote:
> > http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-11-16-jeep_x.htm
> >
> > Nick
> > http://members.cox.net/nnote/
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94627 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:27am
Subject: Re: Bust out the kleenex...
Why would we want them to do that?
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
wrote:
> Maybe DC will sell Jeep to GMC or Ford. We can only hope.
>
> Tony
>
> Linda wrote:
>
> >>From what I hear, the whole Chrysler line-up is considered dated
by
> >DC. The Chrysler engineers and designers are really scrambling to
come
> >up with new ideas to keep their products ahead of the pack. That
> >doesn't mean functional or fun. What it means is making money.
> >Automobile companies in the businss to make a profit. The idea
that
> >they must keep a 'tradition' alive for the sentimental reasons is
a
> >bunch of BS. It will be interesting to see what variations they
come
> >up with.
> >
> >I like the WJs, but I wouldn't buy one anymore than I would buy
any
> >new Jeep product. It's not DC-Jeep's designs, it's because of
> >emissions and fuel efficiency agreements (laws) that have forced
auto
> >makers to use computer programs to run the vehicles.
> >
> >DC-Jeep announced a while back that they are coming out with a
new
> >entry level SUV. I can't imagine anything more entry level than a
> >Wrangler with a 4-cyl, stick shift, and a rag top.
> >
> >Linda
> >54 wagon
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick N" <nnote@d...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-11-16-jeep_x.htm
> >>
> >>Nick
> >>http://members.cox.net/nnote/
> >>
> >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
94628 From: katvans1 <rjentaz@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:48am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns - small kids
Matt
Keep reading, Rotunda room children OK, Big room 6 & under not
allowed.
Big Room Tour: Length: 1/2 mile Time: 1 3/4 hr. (leaving
approximately every 20 minutes)
The Kartchner Caverns story is one of amazing discoveries...both
past and present. Stand where the discoverers first entered the
cave. Marvel at the strange and colorful formations. Learn about
cave inhabitants, both ancient and living. As scientific studies
continue, discoveries are yet to be made. The Big Room tour is a
longer and more physically challenging tour. Children age 6 and
under are not allowed on the tour.
Rich
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> Checking the website, I didn't see any mention of children under 7
> not allowed. The price guide lists ages 7-13, but that may just
> indicate children 6 and under are free. They also mention in the
tour
> section...
>
> Information for Parents:
> It is not uncommon for young children, six years and under, to
become
> uncomfortable in the cave environment. In these instances, the
child
> and parent will be allowed to leave the cave tour, for their well-
> being and safety. Please inquire upon check-in, if you have any
> concerns.
>
> This implies small children are not excluded at all. Anyone with
kids
> 6 and under who want to go might want give them a call to be sure.
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "RICK BEER" <RIKNAZ@M...> wrote:
> > I would like to plan a weekend in January to make a treck down
to
> Karchner caverns to check out one of the amazing sites in
> Arizona so I need to know if I can get a group together so
I
> can make reservation for a tour tickets are $22.95 for adults
> $12.95 for children ages 7-13 children younger than 7 are not
> allowed sorry I did not make this rule tours run 7 days a
week
> 16 tours per day tours are limited to 15 people if I get more than
15
> people I will set up 2 or more tours if needed I would like to
do
> some wheelin also so I up for suggestions on any trails near the
area
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.kartchnercave.com/Parks/parkhtml/kartchner.html
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94629 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 8:50am
Subject: RE: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
D W, I have a different opinion then Roger here. I believe there was a
reason the disconnect is there. I am not sure but I think it is has
something to do with the transfercase. In my 93 YJ the transfercase does
not have a true neutral or a CV driveshaft. You could pick up some
vibrations from the drive shaft because it will be constantly turning. I
have a locker so the drive shaft turns all the time. I experience the
Jeep jerking when making slow tight turns on the road. This happens in
neutral or in gear. I did not have this issue when the drive shaft did
not turn.
My suggestion would be to save or fabricate your own disconnect cable.
You may also be able to use some kind of air switch to change the vacuum
and have it manually engage or disengage.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:22 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
Any way, your options are:
(1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
(2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
(3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
of your time.
(4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
(5) Weld it? Nah.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W <fiftydollarxj@y...> wrote:
> What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
> Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
>
> FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> Thanks,
> $50XJ
>
>
>
> David Withers
> 87 XJ
> www.withersdavid.com
> dwithers@w...
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94630 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:09am
Subject: Re: Kartchner caverns - small kids
Thanks - I apparently missed that part. Good to know I can still
bring my little ones there before they turn 7 :)
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "katvans1" <rjentaz@d...> wrote:
> Keep reading, Rotunda room children OK, Big room 6 & under not
> allowed.
94631 From: joesjeep2003 <jeepfreak1@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:12am
Subject: California Tops
Ok. I need a new top for my CJ7. I ran across California Tops.
They're making a half top for the CJ7 that sales for $350.00. Yeah
sounds to good. I was hoping maybe someone would know something about
them and give me a heads up. Thanks
Joe
94632 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:13am
Subject: RE: California Tops
No first hand experience but have heard some bad thing about Ca. tops..
Something about fit and customer service.. It's been awhile back though.
Keith
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94633 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:25am
Subject: RE: California Tops
Same thing I heard... I think that there was a thread on jeepsunlimited.com
Joe West
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Ok. I need a new top for my CJ7. I ran across California Tops.
They're making a half top for the CJ7 that sales for $350.00. Yeah
sounds to good. I was hoping maybe someone would know something about
them and give me a heads up. Thanks
Joe
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94634 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 9:30am
Subject: Re: FS:Howell FI
That was pretty fast. SOLD!
Craig
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Subject: [az_vjc] FS:Howell FI
> I just posted my fuel injection for sale in the classifieds. Anyone
interested?
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94635 From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:07am
Subject: RE: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
In regards to this comment
"Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!"
Yeah, it's been a while. So who the new AZVJC *****???!!!!
DesertJeep <joey@d...> wrote:
D W, I have a different opinion then Roger here. I believe there was a
reason the disconnect is there. I am not sure but I think it is has
something to do with the transfercase. In my 93 YJ the transfercase does
not have a true neutral or a CV driveshaft. You could pick up some
vibrations from the drive shaft because it will be constantly turning. I
have a locker so the drive shaft turns all the time. I experience the
Jeep jerking when making slow tight turns on the road. This happens in
neutral or in gear. I did not have this issue when the drive shaft did
not turn.
My suggestion would be to save or fabricate your own disconnect cable.
You may also be able to use some kind of air switch to change the vacuum
and have it manually engage or disengage.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:22 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
Any way, your options are:
(1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
(2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
(3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
of your time.
(4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
(5) Weld it? Nah.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W wrote:
> What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
> Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
>
> FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> Thanks,
> $50XJ
>
>
>
> David Withers
> 87 XJ
> www.withersdavid.com
> dwithers@w...
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94636 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 5:07am
Subject: Re: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
I believe that Joey is correct. If you install a one piece axle in the
front you will have full time 4WD. That is why Warn has locking hubs with their
conversion. Not a cheap way to go but if you want the strength of a D44 and
want to use a locker and get rid of the vacuum disconnect that would be the
way to go. I went with the 5 x 5.5 kit which gives you stronger locking hubs.
Now having said all of that, even though the Warn axles are strong you still
have D30 tubes, you would want to install a truss to keep the tubes from
flexing, I didnt and ended up grenading my locker and my R&Ps on a 4.5 trail. On
the bright side, my axles and ujoints held up :-). Detroit told me that if
I would have had the axle trussed that would not have happened and they would
have considered replacing the locker under warranty.
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94637 From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:12am
Subject: Re: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
It's a $50 XJ, hince the name
IF it was my old ChiliPepper, maybe I might worry about it
Fulltime 4x4 might not be a bad idea here in WY with about 3 to 5 inches of snow a day
RokkCrawler@a... wrote:
I believe that Joey is correct. If you install a one piece axle in the front you will have full time 4WD. That is why Warn has locking hubs with their conversion. Not a cheap way to go but if you want the strength of a D44 and want to use a locker and get rid of the vacuum disconnect that would be the way to go. I went with the 5 x 5.5 kit which gives you stronger locking hubs. Now having said all of that, even though the Warn axles are strong you still have D30 tubes, you would want to install a truss to keep the tubes from flexing, I didnt and ended up grenading my locker and my R&Ps on a 4.5 trail. On the bright side, my axles and ujoints held up :-). Detroit told me that if I would have had the axle trussed that would not have happened and they would have considered replacing the locker under warranty.
David Withers
87 XJ
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94638 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:36am
Subject: RE: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
David, No one will/can ever take your place. ;)
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: D W [mailto:fiftydollarxj@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:08 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Cc: 'tomas2691'
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
In regards to this comment
"Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!"
Yeah, it's been a while. So who the new AZVJC *****???!!!!
DesertJeep <joey@d...> wrote:
D W, I have a different opinion then Roger here. I believe there was a
reason the disconnect is there. I am not sure but I think it is has
something to do with the transfercase. In my 93 YJ the transfercase does
not have a true neutral or a CV driveshaft. You could pick up some
vibrations from the drive shaft because it will be constantly turning. I
have a locker so the drive shaft turns all the time. I experience the
Jeep jerking when making slow tight turns on the road. This happens in
neutral or in gear. I did not have this issue when the drive shaft did
not turn.
My suggestion would be to save or fabricate your own disconnect cable.
You may also be able to use some kind of air switch to change the vacuum
and have it manually engage or disengage.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:22 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
Any way, your options are:
(1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
(2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
(3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
of your time.
(4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
(5) Weld it? Nah.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W wrote:
> What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement? Can I
> just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
>
> FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> Thanks,
> $50XJ
>
>
>
> David Withers
> 87 XJ
> www.withersdavid.com
> dwithers@w...
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94639 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 10:54am
Subject: RE: Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
The front driveshaft will be constantly turning if the front
end is locked up. If it is open, then I don't think the shaft
will spin in 2WD. But I could be wrong.
-Roger
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesertJeep [mailto:Joey@d...]
> Sent: November/18/2003 9:51 AM
> To: 'D W'; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: 'tomas2691'
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
>
>
> D W, I have a different opinion then Roger here. I believe there was a
> reason the disconnect is there. I am not sure but I think it is has
> something to do with the transfercase. In my 93 YJ the transfercase does
> not have a true neutral or a CV driveshaft. You could pick up some
> vibrations from the drive shaft because it will be constantly turning. I
> have a locker so the drive shaft turns all the time. I experience the
> Jeep jerking when making slow tight turns on the road. This happens in
> neutral or in gear. I did not have this issue when the drive shaft did
> not turn.
> My suggestion would be to save or fabricate your own disconnect cable.
> You may also be able to use some kind of air switch to change the vacuum
> and have it manually engage or disengage.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tomas2691 [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 8:22 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: XJ D30 Vacuum Disconnect Problems
>
> Whoa. David Withers - there's a name from the past!
>
> Any way, your options are:
>
> (1) Replace the vacuum harness. A YJ harness only costs about $33
> from the dealer and should last you another 8 years or so.
>
> (2) The $225 cable you mentioned.
>
> (3) Assuming XJ disconnects are like YJ disconnects, simply open up
> the disconnect housing, flip the shift fork around so it is
> permanently engaged, and close up the housing. Cost? A few minutes
> of your time.
>
> (4) Replace the 2-piece shaft with a 1-piece shaft from a TJ or XJ.
>
> (5) Weld it? Nah.
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, D W <fiftydollarxj@y...> wrote:
> > What are my options other than a $225 cable motor replacement?
> > Can I just weld the fork? Can i replace the 2-piece axle shaft
> with a one piece?(would like 297 joints anyways)
> >
> > FYI the axle engages and disengages as i drive down the road or
> trail. Pretty scary on ice when you loose your front pulling power!!!
> > Thanks,
> > $50XJ
> >
> >
> >
> > David Withers
> > 87 XJ
> > www.withersdavid.com
> > dwithers@w...
>
>
>
>
>
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94640 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 11:34am
Subject: Re: FS:Howell FI
Craig,
Just curious - why'd you sell it? Problems with it or just didn't
need it? I've got Howell EFI on my 258 and it's been flawless for
about a year now. Anything I should know?
Thanks,
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Micek" <micekc@e...> wrote:
> That was pretty fast. SOLD!
94641 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:09pm
Subject: Happy Thanksgiving [OT]
HAPPY THANKSGIVING TO MY FRIENDS !!
Enjoy the love and comradarie of friends and family!
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94642 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:16pm
Subject: Re: Bust out the kleenex...
My thoughts were Peugot or Mitsubishi.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "intertwingled" <intertwingled@q...>
wrote:
> Maybe DC will sell Jeep to GMC or Ford. We can only hope.
>
> Tony
>
> Linda wrote:
>
> >>From what I hear, the whole Chrysler line-up is considered dated
by
> >DC. The Chrysler engineers and designers are really scrambling to
come
> >up with new ideas to keep their products ahead of the pack. That
> >doesn't mean functional or fun. What it means is making money.
> >Automobile companies in the businss to make a profit. The idea
that
> >they must keep a 'tradition' alive for the sentimental reasons is
a
> >bunch of BS. It will be interesting to see what variations they
come
> >up with.
> >
> >I like the WJs, but I wouldn't buy one anymore than I would buy
any
> >new Jeep product. It's not DC-Jeep's designs, it's because of
> >emissions and fuel efficiency agreements (laws) that have forced
auto
> >makers to use computer programs to run the vehicles.
> >
> >DC-Jeep announced a while back that they are coming out with a new
> >entry level SUV. I can't imagine anything more entry level than a
> >Wrangler with a 4-cyl, stick shift, and a rag top.
> >
> >Linda
> >54 wagon
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Nick N" <nnote@d...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2003-11-16-jeep_x.htm
> >>
> >>Nick
> >>http://members.cox.net/nnote/
> >>
> >>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>
> >>
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> >
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94643 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:26pm
Subject: Re: Jeep Trailers
Okay, that makes more sense. You meant a car carrier. It is so easy
to throw the word "Jeep" in front of everything. Jeep gas cans, Jeep
tires, Jeep radios, Jeep trailers... I figured a 'Jeep trailer' was
something you towed with a Jeep. I was thinking why would anyone buy
a Jeep to haul a heavy trailer? I have seen it done, but it must have
been out of desperation or lack of funds.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Russell" <desertjeep@c...> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Sorry, I guess my post was a little lacking in information. I
intend to use my motor home to pull the trailer with the Jeep on the
trailer. Sorry for the confusion.
>
> Jim
> Tucson
> 76 CJ-5
>
>
> Message: 24
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:34:57 -0000
> From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
> Subject: Re: Jeep Trailers
>
> I didn't know a TJ could pull a tandem axle trailer. A V8 Grand
> Cherokee can pull that weight (around 5000#), but a 6-cyl Jeep
engine
> would be at its limits.
>
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94644 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 18, 2003 1:11pm
Subject: Re: Re: FS:Howell FI
It worked great! It is just that my tired 258 does doesn't quite have the
oomph to spin my 38's. I loved not having to worry about it stalling at the
most inopportune time like it did prior to the install. I would recommend
it everyone. I consider it one of the best mods I have done to the CJ. In
fact the 350 I am installing in its place also has the Howell kit on it!
Craig
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From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 1:34 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: FS:Howell FI
> Craig,
>
> Just curious - why'd you sell it? Problems with it or just didn't
> need it? I've got Howell EFI on my 258 and it's been flawless for
> about a year now. Anything I should know?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Craig Micek" <micekc@e...> wrote:
> > That was pretty fast. SOLD!
>
>
>
>
>
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