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94219 From: Andrew Deschapelles <andrewrrdd@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:23am
Subject: Re: Re: Dana 30 question...
Got it... thanks!
tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> wrote:
The term "reverse rotation" is a misnomer. It is often used when
discussing "high-pinion" differentials. The high pinion means that
pinion gear is positioned ABOVE the horizontal centerline of the ring
gear instead of BELOW it. For the gear teeth to mesh properly, the
teeth must be cut in a spiral pattern opposite that of gears for "low
pinion" differentials. So there is a difference in the gears. But
nothing rotates in a reverse direction.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Deschapelles
wrote:
> Pardon my ignorance, but...
>
> What does "reverse rotation" mean when referring to gears?
>
> A
>
> "Leonard K. Pennock" wrote:
> Rather than just putting in a open carrier why not put in a Detroit
True
> Trac or a Detroit locker? The time to add a TAD is when doing the
gear
> swap.
>
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:42:43 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Andrew Deschapelles
> > Subject: Dana 30 question...
> >
> > Hi Folks...
> >
> > I have a '97 TJ with Dana 30 upfront running 3.07 gears. I
recently purchased 4.11 gears to upgrade both axles. What I did not
realize was that I would have to purchase a bigger carrier up front
to fit the 4.11 gears. I have been looking on Ebay and have noticed
numerous Dana 30 components (carriers, gears etc) from CJ's and
YJ's...
> >
> > Question... will these older Dana 30 components fit in my '97 TJ
dana 30? Is there any functional difference between the Dana 30 from
CJ's and YJ's and the Dana 30 in my TJ?
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Andrew
> >
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94220 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:31am
Subject: Re: OT--Welding question
While definetly not the authority on this subject (shut up John K) I would
say 1/8" maybe 3/16" if you do excellent prep.
If your saving up, wait a little longer and get a 220V machine. It will
then do everything you want and you will be glad you did.
Craig
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From: "Keith" <khaw@n...>
To: "ArizonaXJ" <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>; "Az_VJC"
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] OT--Welding question
> I got a cheapie little wire feed welder {80a} welder from a cousin. I
> know it's not going to be big enough. But I figure it's something to
> learn with till I can afford a Miller135. I haven't had a welder in my
> hand sense the early 70's. Anyway, what's the thickest I can weld with
> this and expect it to hold? I'd like to build a welding cart/table,
> about 2'X4". What should I use, angle or tubing, and thickness?
> Thanks
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94221 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:42am
Subject: MGCP
MGCP Members,
MARK YOUR CALENDARS!!!
As announced several months ago the next few months of the MGCP meetings
will rotate from north to south (Phoenix to Tucson) and will be evening
meetings in the local areas. We hope this schedule will enable those that
have been unable to make it to Florence during regular working hours to be
involved in the happenings in the Florence Junction area land planning
partnership.
We've plowed through the Vision and Mission Statements, the objectives and
goals and are now on a roll towards beginning implementation of the plans
we've all worked towards for three years.
BLM will have the inventory maps of the MGCP Pilot area available for
verification of trails and areas of concern. Although the non-motorized
trails are not indicated on this particular map we need to identify
non-motorized trails along with motorized trails. Also the Great Western
Trail and issues with it will be discussed. There will be discussions
regarding a trails plan on the State Trust Lands on the west side of this
area.
Please forward this to all your lists and friends that are interested in the
planning for the use of our lands..............
Middle Gila Conservation Partnership
NOVEMBER 17, 2003
6:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.
Pima County Natural Resources
Parks and Recreation Department
3500 East River Rd
Tucson, AZ 85741
Access from I-10 is via the Orange Grove exit, east to the first stop
light, right turn (south) onto River Road which veers to the east to the
address on the left side (north)
DECEMBER 11, 2003
6:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.
Army National Guard Armory
McDowell Rd, Phoenix
(directions to follow)
94222 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:49am
Subject: Thank you to all the Veterans out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to say thank you for the sacrifices you have made, for
putting you life on the line and keeping us safe. We can never say
it enough, but THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is to hoping you all have a wonderful day.
For anyone that thinks this is off topic, keep in mind if it were
not for the efforts of those in uniform we would not have the
freedom to even have this board, this club and the rights to use out
Jeeps.
Let Freedom Ring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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94223 From: Mike H. <hiett710@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:57am
Subject: Need help with a steering/front end problem.
I will start out with what I have.
02 TJ 4.0 3" tera springs, Stock controll arms.
Adjustable trac bar from O.R.U. (same brand name as a shock)
JKS quick discos and everything else in the front end is stock.
I had a bad trac bar in the front for about 5k miles
and when I got it alligned I experienced major death wobble so I
bought the new trac bar.
Anyhow 3 weeks later I got another alignment because I was having
oversteer problems BAAAAAD and my alignment was off -.25
kinda wierd that it was off so quickly with no off roading or
upgrades except the trac bar.
Well I'm having the oversteer problem again. (whats oversteer you
ask) When I move the steering wheel 1 billionth of an inch the front
end moves 3 feet. I can hardly keep it in the lane when it's bumpy
and if I hit a bump in the middle of a turn heaven help the guy next
to me on the inside. I have almost written Goodyear on many doors in
the last few weeks..
Has anyone experienced this? What did you do to fix it? My Jeep only
has 35k Miles on it. I'm thinking that replacing the controll arms
might help but I'm really not sure.
Thanks for any info you have,
Mike H.
hiett710@y...
94224 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:00am
Subject: Re: [Tech] Jeep Cherokee - Skid plates
try skid row automotive, they are on the web at www.skidplates.com . They
make some nice stuff for all Jeeps
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94225 From: ldstruckn <ldstruckn@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:22am
Subject: someone tell me about camping
i would like to go camping in the forest somewhere this weekend. I
would love to camp in an area where i can also go wheeling and not
see to many others...any suggestions?
94226 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:24am
Subject: RE: Need help with a steering/front end problem.
Mike,
Not sure which alignment spec you are quoting (-.25) as there are two
adjustments (caster and toe) that can be performed on a TJ.
I have found that on my Jeep, setting the toe to 0" causes over
responsive steering (at least on mine it does). I prefer to have mine
slightly toed in, about an 1/8" or just slightly more (5/32"). Not
everyone agrees with me but then again, they don't drive my Jeep either.
:)
If you are still experiencing death wobble (the kind that makes you
think you are going to die because the front end is bouncing around so
radically), I would check the following things....
1. Tire balance
2. Caster setting (usually around 4.5 degrees for a lifted TJ, some are
more, some are less....it is a compromise with keeping the pinion angle
within reason).
3. Track bar mounting points (make sure they are not wobble out and
that the mounting bolts are torqued properly). A little slop here and
you can easily get death wobble.
4. Control arm mounting points. (make sure they are properly torqued)
I'm sure there are a few others I have forgotten but the above usually
account for the majority of death wobble problems. Sometimes it is not
just one thing but rather several that are just a little bit off
normal....any one of them by itself would not be an issue but when
combined with one or two others, it is enough to get your front end to
really hop around.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike H. [mailto:hiett710@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:58 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Need help with a steering/front end problem.
I will start out with what I have.
02 TJ 4.0 3" tera springs, Stock controll arms.
Adjustable trac bar from O.R.U. (same brand name as a shock)
JKS quick discos and everything else in the front end is stock.
I had a bad trac bar in the front for about 5k miles
and when I got it alligned I experienced major death wobble so I
bought the new trac bar.
Anyhow 3 weeks later I got another alignment because I was having
oversteer problems BAAAAAD and my alignment was off -.25
kinda wierd that it was off so quickly with no off roading or
upgrades except the trac bar.
Well I'm having the oversteer problem again. (whats oversteer you
ask) When I move the steering wheel 1 billionth of an inch the front
end moves 3 feet. I can hardly keep it in the lane when it's bumpy
and if I hit a bump in the middle of a turn heaven help the guy next
to me on the inside. I have almost written Goodyear on many doors in
the last few weeks..
Has anyone experienced this? What did you do to fix it? My Jeep only
has 35k Miles on it. I'm thinking that replacing the controll arms
might help but I'm really not sure.
Thanks for any info you have,
Mike H.
hiett710@y...
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94227 From: jeepmom <jeepmom@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:26am
Subject: Re: someone tell me about camping
four peaks
----- Original Message -----
From: "ldstruckn" <ldstruckn@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] someone tell me about camping
> i would like to go camping in the forest somewhere this weekend. I
> would love to camp in an area where i can also go wheeling and not
> see to many others...any suggestions?
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94228 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:59am
Subject: Thermostat opinions???
By this weekend, I should have a replacement radiator (3 core metal)
for BRUZR (97 TJ w/ 2.5l 4 cylinder) and figured it would be the
perfect time to replace the hoses and thermostat. I've seen arguments
for and against different temperature thermostats, but honestly it
all confuses me.
The higher temperature thermostats open at a higher temperature,
right? So, this means the coolant stays in the radiator longer and
lets the heat dissipate more, I take it...
The lower temperature thermostats open at a lower temperature and the
coolant cycles through the engine more often, NOT giving it time to
dissipate as much, causing the engine to run hotter, right?
What temperature thermostat should I get for the 3 core radiator
combo to get the most out of my cooling system? Keep in mind that I
live in Havasu (the State's hotspot most of the time - 125 degrees
isn't uncommon.)
TIA,
Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
94229 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:15am
Subject: RE: Thermostat opinions???
Comments Inline....
The higher temperature thermostats open at a higher temperature,
right? So, this means the coolant stays in the radiator longer and
lets the heat dissipate more, I take it...
Yes... the higher temperature thermostats open at a higher temperature.
No... it does not mean that the coolant stays in the radiator longer. The duration that the coolant stays in the radiator is a function of flow rate and not thermostat opening temperature.
The lower temperature thermostats open at a lower temperature and the
coolant cycles through the engine more often, NOT giving it time to
dissipate as much, causing the engine to run hotter, right?
Yes... the lower temperature thermostats open at a lower temperature.
No... the opening temperature does not change the time the coolant remains in the radiator (although one could argue that a lower temperature causes the coolant passages to constrict, reducing coolant flow... I promise... this would not be a noticeable effect).
What temperature thermostat should I get for the 3 core radiator
combo to get the most out of my cooling system? Keep in mind that I
live in Havasu (the State's hotspot most of the time - 125 degrees
isn't uncommon.)
And the answer is.... THE FACTORY TEMPERATURE THERMOSTAT (195 degrees I think).
Reason? Because the factory changes the air/fuel ratio to the engine based on temperature... and a lower temperature thermostat will likely cause your TJ to run richer than it should which, if it is outside the normal control loop parameters defined in the lookup tables in the ECU, could cause you problems.
Stick with the factory temperature thermostat and you can't go wrong.
Joe West
TIA,
Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
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94230 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:33am
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, November 15, 2003
Hello All,Scott E is leading an Unspecified trail run on Saturday, November 15, 2003.<br><br>When: TBD
Where: TBD
Rating: None
Length:
CB Channel:
wondering if anyone wants to wheel sat. I was thinking about Martinez Canyon or maybe something north of phoenix.<br>
someone that knows the trail better should lead, if no one shows interest or no one to lead signs up Ill cancel the trip. nothing tougher then 4.0. <br>
<br>
<br>
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1089
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94231 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:38am
Subject: Re: Thank you to all the Veterans out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's right, Jeff Trujilla. Stop being cheap and get your Veteran's
License Plate!
Anthony Nemmer
Air Force Veteran
Chris wrote:
>I want to say thank you for the sacrifices you have made, for
>putting you life on the line and keeping us safe. We can never say
>it enough, but THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Here is to hoping you all have a wonderful day.
>
>For anyone that thinks this is off topic, keep in mind if it were
>not for the efforts of those in uniform we would not have the
>freedom to even have this board, this club and the rights to use out
>Jeeps.
>
>Let Freedom Ring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Chris
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94232 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:39am
Subject: Re: Thank you to all the Veterans out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Errm, I meant to say TrujillO in my previous email! =)
Tony
Chris wrote:
>I want to say thank you for the sacrifices you have made, for
>putting you life on the line and keeping us safe. We can never say
>it enough, but THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Here is to hoping you all have a wonderful day.
>
>For anyone that thinks this is off topic, keep in mind if it were
>not for the efforts of those in uniform we would not have the
>freedom to even have this board, this club and the rights to use out
>Jeeps.
>
>Let Freedom Ring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Chris
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94233 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:57am
Subject: Re: need help with some cj7 probs
Try some WD40, spray all around and in where the latch plate meets the
striker bolt. That has always seemed to work for me on my doors. The other
alternative would be to take the door apart see if one of the rods is bent,
readjust the rods where possible and spray the whole lock and latch assembly with WD
40 to not only clean but lubricate.
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94234 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:00pm
Subject: Re: Need help with a steering/front end problem.
Sounds like you have bumpsteer (at least now), and not death wobble.
Bumpsteer is when you hit any bump the Jeep wants to take off and turn
itself.
That's caused, mostly, by a misalignment of the track bar and drag link.
You didn't say if you replaced the track bar or the alignment shop did.
Anyway, the trackbar needs to be inline, as close as possible to the
drag link.
I'ld also check all the various tie rod ends and make sure that they are
tight.
You didn't mention which (brand) trackbar that you got. Since it's
recently installed that's the first thing that I would check. Make sure
the axle end and frame end are still tight, and that the bolts have
loosened.
Some brands have a tendency to do that.
Best,
Fred
Mike H. wrote:
>I will start out with what I have.
>02 TJ 4.0 3" tera springs, Stock controll arms.
>Adjustable trac bar from O.R.U. (same brand name as a shock)
>JKS quick discos and everything else in the front end is stock.
> I had a bad trac bar in the front for about 5k miles
>and when I got it alligned I experienced major death wobble so I
>bought the new trac bar.
>Anyhow 3 weeks later I got another alignment because I was having
>oversteer problems BAAAAAD and my alignment was off -.25
>kinda wierd that it was off so quickly with no off roading or
>upgrades except the trac bar.
>Well I'm having the oversteer problem again. (whats oversteer you
>ask) When I move the steering wheel 1 billionth of an inch the front
>end moves 3 feet. I can hardly keep it in the lane when it's bumpy
>and if I hit a bump in the middle of a turn heaven help the guy next
>to me on the inside. I have almost written Goodyear on many doors in
>the last few weeks..
>
>Has anyone experienced this? What did you do to fix it? My Jeep only
>has 35k Miles on it. I'm thinking that replacing the controll arms
>might help but I'm really not sure.
>Thanks for any info you have,
>Mike H.
>
>hiett710@y...
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94235 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:02pm
Subject: Re: OT--Welding question
Rather than a Miller 135, I'ld *highly* suggest that you save a few more
pennies and get the 220V Miller 175 or Hobart (which is made by Miller
and a little less expensive).
A 175 amp is really about the smallest that you can use on most "Jeep"
things ;)
Best,
Fred
Keith wrote:
>I got a cheapie little wire feed welder {80a} welder from a cousin. I
>know it's not going to be big enough. But I figure it's something to
>learn with till I can afford a Miller135. I haven't had a welder in my
>hand sense the early 70's. Anyway, what's the thickest I can weld with
>this and expect it to hold? I'd like to build a welding cart/table,
>about 2'X4". What should I use, angle or tubing, and thickness?
>Thanks
>Keith
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94236 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:04pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2001 TJ - 33's or 35's with 3.73 gears
You'll probably "loose" 5th gear on anything except a downhill section
of road.
Off roading will be damn painfull without a 4:1 in the xfer case, and
even with that will "hurt" with only 3.73's.
4.88's will be best, and even that will require a 4:1 to 4 wheel in
anything very rocky, where you need to crawl slowly.. You'll be slipping
the hell out of your clutch.
Fred
AzVJC Website wrote:
>Looking for new tires, I would like to know if anyone is running 35's with 3.73 gears 5 speed 4.0L.
>Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>Tom
>rychtiks@e...
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94237 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:12am
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2001 TJ - 33's or 35's with 3.73 gears
I had 4.56 gears with the same senario, wish I would have gotten 4.88's
looking back. I wouild think your 3.73's in low range without a 4:1 would feel
like 4:88's in 4high and not low.
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94238 From: Jon Loveless-Jeep <azjeepin@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:53pm
Subject: Possible Jeep for sale
I may have to sell my Jeep. Not sure yet, so this is just for feelers.
1998 TJ 38,000 miles
--------------------
Dark Green
4.0 L
5 Speed
Warn 9500i Winch with poly rope
Custom Roll cage
Custom Winch Plate
Custom Spare Tire carrier
Permanent steel back deck cover (no rear seat)
37x12.5x15 MTRs - near new on Black Am Racing steel rims
AirRaid RAM air cleaner
Gibson CatBack
TeraLow
Tera2Lo
TeraFlex 4" lift System
1" body and motormount lift
2" spring spacers
Sun Rock Guards
Kilby Gas Tank skid plate
Front: DynaTrax High Pinion 44
Rear: Tera CRD High Pinion 66
4.56 gears
ARB front and rear
CO2 PowerTank with extra tank
Disk brakes x 4
CV shaft
Cobra CB
Firestick antenna
Night rock lights
3 point harness Driver and Passenger
Bestop 1/2 cab SunRider
Bestop rain cover
1/2 doors and 2 sets windows (clear plexi and glass)
$22,000
Pictures at:
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b3557f6a4576
If you are interested please call at: 480-816-0963
94239 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: Re: [Arizona_Jeep_Club] Possible Jeep for sale
WTF???
Say it ain't so....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Loveless-Jeep" <azjeepin@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:53 PM
Subject: [Arizona_Jeep_Club] Possible Jeep for sale
I may have to sell my Jeep. Not sure yet, so this is just for feelers.
1998 TJ 38,000 miles
--------------------
Dark Green
4.0 L
5 Speed
Warn 9500i Winch with poly rope
Custom Roll cage
Custom Winch Plate
Custom Spare Tire carrier
Permanent steel back deck cover (no rear seat)
37x12.5x15 MTRs - near new on Black Am Racing steel rims
AirRaid RAM air cleaner
Gibson CatBack
TeraLow
Tera2Lo
TeraFlex 4" lift System
1" body and motormount lift
2" spring spacers
Sun Rock Guards
Kilby Gas Tank skid plate
Front: DynaTrax High Pinion 44
Rear: Tera CRD High Pinion 66
4.56 gears
ARB front and rear
CO2 PowerTank with extra tank
Disk brakes x 4
CV shaft
Cobra CB
Firestick antenna
Night rock lights
3 point harness Driver and Passenger
Bestop 1/2 cab SunRider
Bestop rain cover
1/2 doors and 2 sets windows (clear plexi and glass)
$22,000
Pictures at:
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b3557f6a4576
If you are interested please call at: 480-816-0963
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94240 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: Oil sending unit...
I need a new oil sending unit for my 97 TJ, 2.5l...I've found out
that is a stealer only item and the local stealership (in Havasu)
wants $65 for it. HOLY CRAP!!! Does anyone have a contact at one of
the stealerships in Phoenix that can get one for WAAAY cheaper than
that?
TIA,
Dan
94241 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:02pm
Subject: RE: Possible Jeep for sale
I get dibs on the rear axle!!!
Joe F. West
Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
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From: Jon Loveless-Jeep [mailto:azjeepin@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:54 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Possible Jeep for sale
I may have to sell my Jeep. Not sure yet, so this is just for feelers.
1998 TJ 38,000 miles
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Dark Green
4.0 L
5 Speed
Warn 9500i Winch with poly rope
Custom Roll cage
Custom Winch Plate
Custom Spare Tire carrier
Permanent steel back deck cover (no rear seat)
37x12.5x15 MTRs - near new on Black Am Racing steel rims
AirRaid RAM air cleaner
Gibson CatBack
TeraLow
Tera2Lo
TeraFlex 4" lift System
1" body and motormount lift
2" spring spacers
Sun Rock Guards
Kilby Gas Tank skid plate
Front: DynaTrax High Pinion 44
Rear: Tera CRD High Pinion 66
4.56 gears
ARB front and rear
CO2 PowerTank with extra tank
Disk brakes x 4
CV shaft
Cobra CB
Firestick antenna
Night rock lights
3 point harness Driver and Passenger
Bestop 1/2 cab SunRider
Bestop rain cover
1/2 doors and 2 sets windows (clear plexi and glass)
$22,000
Pictures at:
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b3557f6a4576
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94242 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:13pm
Subject: [Tech] 1998 Cherokee - In need of hitch for cherokee
I am looking for a hitch for my 98 cherokee classic. I have several places to buy a new hitch but thought one of the members out there may have one they have taken off for clearance. Anyone have what im looking for???
Thanks..
Brian Freyberger
94243 From: olneyjeeps <olneyjeeps@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:26pm
Subject: Re: sandy beach trail/stacking rocks
Excuuuse me for setting tread on a trail which it appears you would
like reserved for rock crawling gods as yourself
As it appears you coulden't read the first time from your throne:
1) I turned around (over 3 mile in, as a reasonable / responsible
driver) because I had determined that (at that time) I was not
properly equiped and did not have the resources if I were to get into
trouble.
2) I did recommend / advise against attempting without lots of
clearance.
Furthermore in respinse to your comments,
"Lets not ruin another good trail!!!!"
As long as it is not causing long term damage (such as the semi
perminant marks you leave behind while attempting to climb near
vertical "obsticals") it is not my, your, or anyone's right to
say where someone does or does not belong (I don't recall seeing you
at the last BLM meeting either)
FYI, hydrodynamic lession: mooving 4-5 15lb rocks in the bottom of a
wash frequented by water moving at several thousand cubic feet per
minute is not what I would call "ruining another good trail."
"If you need to stack rocks 20 yards into it, you do not belong
on that trail."
I suppose that is why you have a winch mounted (which I'm sure you
always use before spinning all four gouging and spiting rock and
admitting lack of ability to move unassisted). Let's compare
possible long term damage: rocks in bottom of wash vs. tire scars on
vertical terrain after futile spinning. Havng attended several
competitions, I'm sure your spotter has never stacked a rock or two
for you, right?
By the way, I have been responsibly wheeling / hiking in this area
since the early 70's; you?
See you at the next BLM meeting
Steve
> Lets not ruin another good trail!!!!
> This trail has been run by experienced drivers and rigs equipped to
do it,
> without STACKING ROCKS for years. If you need to stack rocks 20
yards into
> it, you do not belong on that trail.
> There are plenty of trails out there for everyones level.
>
> Todd
>
>
>
>
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: new member/ sandy beach
> >
> >Earlier this year, after talking with many people and surveying
> from
> >the air, I led a group on the sandy beach trail.
> >The first 3miles are very easy. The next mile is really really
> really
> >nasty. Because the other members of the group did not want to go
further,
> >I (78CJ7 4" lift,33x12.5 BFG's+f+r lockers) only the first 20-30
yards; it
> >took about 30 minutes + broken shackle + lots of stacking+ body
damage to
> >get back out.
> >I would love to lead another groop (challange/hint hint) but
> required
> >equipment would be:
> >minumum 33x125, 35+ (33's=lot of body damage probable)
> >Front and rear lockers
> >winch + hooks strong back (rocks are heavy)
> >
> >Call if interested
> >Steve Olney
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94219 From: Andrew Deschapelles <andrewrrdd@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:23am
Subject: Re: Re: Dana 30 question...
Got it... thanks!
tomas2691 <tomasr@a...> wrote:
The term "reverse rotation" is a misnomer. It is often used when
discussing "high-pinion" differentials. The high pinion means that
pinion gear is positioned ABOVE the horizontal centerline of the ring
gear instead of BELOW it. For the gear teeth to mesh properly, the
teeth must be cut in a spiral pattern opposite that of gears for "low
pinion" differentials. So there is a difference in the gears. But
nothing rotates in a reverse direction.
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Deschapelles
wrote:
> Pardon my ignorance, but...
>
> What does "reverse rotation" mean when referring to gears?
>
> A
>
> "Leonard K. Pennock" wrote:
> Rather than just putting in a open carrier why not put in a Detroit
True
> Trac or a Detroit locker? The time to add a TAD is when doing the
gear
> swap.
>
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> > Message: 18
> > Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 17:42:43 -0800 (PST)
> > From: Andrew Deschapelles
> > Subject: Dana 30 question...
> >
> > Hi Folks...
> >
> > I have a '97 TJ with Dana 30 upfront running 3.07 gears. I
recently purchased 4.11 gears to upgrade both axles. What I did not
realize was that I would have to purchase a bigger carrier up front
to fit the 4.11 gears. I have been looking on Ebay and have noticed
numerous Dana 30 components (carriers, gears etc) from CJ's and
YJ's...
> >
> > Question... will these older Dana 30 components fit in my '97 TJ
dana 30? Is there any functional difference between the Dana 30 from
CJ's and YJ's and the Dana 30 in my TJ?
> >
> > Any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Andrew
> >
>
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94220 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:31am
Subject: Re: OT--Welding question
While definetly not the authority on this subject (shut up John K) I would
say 1/8" maybe 3/16" if you do excellent prep.
If your saving up, wait a little longer and get a 220V machine. It will
then do everything you want and you will be glad you did.
Craig
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Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:41 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] OT--Welding question
> I got a cheapie little wire feed welder {80a} welder from a cousin. I
> know it's not going to be big enough. But I figure it's something to
> learn with till I can afford a Miller135. I haven't had a welder in my
> hand sense the early 70's. Anyway, what's the thickest I can weld with
> this and expect it to hold? I'd like to build a welding cart/table,
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94221 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:42am
Subject: MGCP
MGCP Members,
MARK YOUR CALENDARS!!!
As announced several months ago the next few months of the MGCP meetings
will rotate from north to south (Phoenix to Tucson) and will be evening
meetings in the local areas. We hope this schedule will enable those that
have been unable to make it to Florence during regular working hours to be
involved in the happenings in the Florence Junction area land planning
partnership.
We've plowed through the Vision and Mission Statements, the objectives and
goals and are now on a roll towards beginning implementation of the plans
we've all worked towards for three years.
BLM will have the inventory maps of the MGCP Pilot area available for
verification of trails and areas of concern. Although the non-motorized
trails are not indicated on this particular map we need to identify
non-motorized trails along with motorized trails. Also the Great Western
Trail and issues with it will be discussed. There will be discussions
regarding a trails plan on the State Trust Lands on the west side of this
area.
Please forward this to all your lists and friends that are interested in the
planning for the use of our lands..............
Middle Gila Conservation Partnership
NOVEMBER 17, 2003
6:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.
Pima County Natural Resources
Parks and Recreation Department
3500 East River Rd
Tucson, AZ 85741
Access from I-10 is via the Orange Grove exit, east to the first stop
light, right turn (south) onto River Road which veers to the east to the
address on the left side (north)
DECEMBER 11, 2003
6:00 p.m. - 9:00 p.m.
Army National Guard Armory
McDowell Rd, Phoenix
(directions to follow)
94222 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:49am
Subject: Thank you to all the Veterans out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I want to say thank you for the sacrifices you have made, for
putting you life on the line and keeping us safe. We can never say
it enough, but THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is to hoping you all have a wonderful day.
For anyone that thinks this is off topic, keep in mind if it were
not for the efforts of those in uniform we would not have the
freedom to even have this board, this club and the rights to use out
Jeeps.
Let Freedom Ring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris
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94223 From: Mike H. <hiett710@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 8:57am
Subject: Need help with a steering/front end problem.
I will start out with what I have.
02 TJ 4.0 3" tera springs, Stock controll arms.
Adjustable trac bar from O.R.U. (same brand name as a shock)
JKS quick discos and everything else in the front end is stock.
I had a bad trac bar in the front for about 5k miles
and when I got it alligned I experienced major death wobble so I
bought the new trac bar.
Anyhow 3 weeks later I got another alignment because I was having
oversteer problems BAAAAAD and my alignment was off -.25
kinda wierd that it was off so quickly with no off roading or
upgrades except the trac bar.
Well I'm having the oversteer problem again. (whats oversteer you
ask) When I move the steering wheel 1 billionth of an inch the front
end moves 3 feet. I can hardly keep it in the lane when it's bumpy
and if I hit a bump in the middle of a turn heaven help the guy next
to me on the inside. I have almost written Goodyear on many doors in
the last few weeks..
Has anyone experienced this? What did you do to fix it? My Jeep only
has 35k Miles on it. I'm thinking that replacing the controll arms
might help but I'm really not sure.
Thanks for any info you have,
Mike H.
hiett710@y...
94224 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 4:00am
Subject: Re: [Tech] Jeep Cherokee - Skid plates
try skid row automotive, they are on the web at www.skidplates.com . They
make some nice stuff for all Jeeps
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94225 From: ldstruckn <ldstruckn@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:22am
Subject: someone tell me about camping
i would like to go camping in the forest somewhere this weekend. I
would love to camp in an area where i can also go wheeling and not
see to many others...any suggestions?
94226 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:24am
Subject: RE: Need help with a steering/front end problem.
Mike,
Not sure which alignment spec you are quoting (-.25) as there are two
adjustments (caster and toe) that can be performed on a TJ.
I have found that on my Jeep, setting the toe to 0" causes over
responsive steering (at least on mine it does). I prefer to have mine
slightly toed in, about an 1/8" or just slightly more (5/32"). Not
everyone agrees with me but then again, they don't drive my Jeep either.
:)
If you are still experiencing death wobble (the kind that makes you
think you are going to die because the front end is bouncing around so
radically), I would check the following things....
1. Tire balance
2. Caster setting (usually around 4.5 degrees for a lifted TJ, some are
more, some are less....it is a compromise with keeping the pinion angle
within reason).
3. Track bar mounting points (make sure they are not wobble out and
that the mounting bolts are torqued properly). A little slop here and
you can easily get death wobble.
4. Control arm mounting points. (make sure they are properly torqued)
I'm sure there are a few others I have forgotten but the above usually
account for the majority of death wobble problems. Sometimes it is not
just one thing but rather several that are just a little bit off
normal....any one of them by itself would not be an issue but when
combined with one or two others, it is enough to get your front end to
really hop around.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike H. [mailto:hiett710@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 9:58 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Need help with a steering/front end problem.
I will start out with what I have.
02 TJ 4.0 3" tera springs, Stock controll arms.
Adjustable trac bar from O.R.U. (same brand name as a shock)
JKS quick discos and everything else in the front end is stock.
I had a bad trac bar in the front for about 5k miles
and when I got it alligned I experienced major death wobble so I
bought the new trac bar.
Anyhow 3 weeks later I got another alignment because I was having
oversteer problems BAAAAAD and my alignment was off -.25
kinda wierd that it was off so quickly with no off roading or
upgrades except the trac bar.
Well I'm having the oversteer problem again. (whats oversteer you
ask) When I move the steering wheel 1 billionth of an inch the front
end moves 3 feet. I can hardly keep it in the lane when it's bumpy
and if I hit a bump in the middle of a turn heaven help the guy next
to me on the inside. I have almost written Goodyear on many doors in
the last few weeks..
Has anyone experienced this? What did you do to fix it? My Jeep only
has 35k Miles on it. I'm thinking that replacing the controll arms
might help but I'm really not sure.
Thanks for any info you have,
Mike H.
hiett710@y...
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94227 From: jeepmom <jeepmom@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:26am
Subject: Re: someone tell me about camping
four peaks
----- Original Message -----
From: "ldstruckn" <ldstruckn@h...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 11:22 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] someone tell me about camping
> i would like to go camping in the forest somewhere this weekend. I
> would love to camp in an area where i can also go wheeling and not
> see to many others...any suggestions?
>
>
>
>
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94228 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:59am
Subject: Thermostat opinions???
By this weekend, I should have a replacement radiator (3 core metal)
for BRUZR (97 TJ w/ 2.5l 4 cylinder) and figured it would be the
perfect time to replace the hoses and thermostat. I've seen arguments
for and against different temperature thermostats, but honestly it
all confuses me.
The higher temperature thermostats open at a higher temperature,
right? So, this means the coolant stays in the radiator longer and
lets the heat dissipate more, I take it...
The lower temperature thermostats open at a lower temperature and the
coolant cycles through the engine more often, NOT giving it time to
dissipate as much, causing the engine to run hotter, right?
What temperature thermostat should I get for the 3 core radiator
combo to get the most out of my cooling system? Keep in mind that I
live in Havasu (the State's hotspot most of the time - 125 degrees
isn't uncommon.)
TIA,
Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
94229 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:15am
Subject: RE: Thermostat opinions???
Comments Inline....
The higher temperature thermostats open at a higher temperature,
right? So, this means the coolant stays in the radiator longer and
lets the heat dissipate more, I take it...
Yes... the higher temperature thermostats open at a higher temperature.
No... it does not mean that the coolant stays in the radiator longer. The duration that the coolant stays in the radiator is a function of flow rate and not thermostat opening temperature.
The lower temperature thermostats open at a lower temperature and the
coolant cycles through the engine more often, NOT giving it time to
dissipate as much, causing the engine to run hotter, right?
Yes... the lower temperature thermostats open at a lower temperature.
No... the opening temperature does not change the time the coolant remains in the radiator (although one could argue that a lower temperature causes the coolant passages to constrict, reducing coolant flow... I promise... this would not be a noticeable effect).
What temperature thermostat should I get for the 3 core radiator
combo to get the most out of my cooling system? Keep in mind that I
live in Havasu (the State's hotspot most of the time - 125 degrees
isn't uncommon.)
And the answer is.... THE FACTORY TEMPERATURE THERMOSTAT (195 degrees I think).
Reason? Because the factory changes the air/fuel ratio to the engine based on temperature... and a lower temperature thermostat will likely cause your TJ to run richer than it should which, if it is outside the normal control loop parameters defined in the lookup tables in the ECU, could cause you problems.
Stick with the factory temperature thermostat and you can't go wrong.
Joe West
TIA,
Dan (AKA BRUZR's Daddy)
97 TJ (BRUZR), Locked and Loaded in Lake Havasu City, AZ
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94230 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:33am
Subject: [TR] Unspecified - Saturday, November 15, 2003
Hello All,Scott E is leading an Unspecified trail run on Saturday, November 15, 2003.<br><br>When: TBD
Where: TBD
Rating: None
Length:
CB Channel:
wondering if anyone wants to wheel sat. I was thinking about Martinez Canyon or maybe something north of phoenix.<br>
someone that knows the trail better should lead, if no one shows interest or no one to lead signs up Ill cancel the trip. nothing tougher then 4.0. <br>
<br>
<br>
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1089
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94231 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:38am
Subject: Re: Thank you to all the Veterans out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's right, Jeff Trujilla. Stop being cheap and get your Veteran's
License Plate!
Anthony Nemmer
Air Force Veteran
Chris wrote:
>I want to say thank you for the sacrifices you have made, for
>putting you life on the line and keeping us safe. We can never say
>it enough, but THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Here is to hoping you all have a wonderful day.
>
>For anyone that thinks this is off topic, keep in mind if it were
>not for the efforts of those in uniform we would not have the
>freedom to even have this board, this club and the rights to use out
>Jeeps.
>
>Let Freedom Ring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Chris
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94232 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:39am
Subject: Re: Thank you to all the Veterans out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Errm, I meant to say TrujillO in my previous email! =)
Tony
Chris wrote:
>I want to say thank you for the sacrifices you have made, for
>putting you life on the line and keeping us safe. We can never say
>it enough, but THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Here is to hoping you all have a wonderful day.
>
>For anyone that thinks this is off topic, keep in mind if it were
>not for the efforts of those in uniform we would not have the
>freedom to even have this board, this club and the rights to use out
>Jeeps.
>
>Let Freedom Ring!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Chris
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94233 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:57am
Subject: Re: need help with some cj7 probs
Try some WD40, spray all around and in where the latch plate meets the
striker bolt. That has always seemed to work for me on my doors. The other
alternative would be to take the door apart see if one of the rods is bent,
readjust the rods where possible and spray the whole lock and latch assembly with WD
40 to not only clean but lubricate.
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94234 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:00pm
Subject: Re: Need help with a steering/front end problem.
Sounds like you have bumpsteer (at least now), and not death wobble.
Bumpsteer is when you hit any bump the Jeep wants to take off and turn
itself.
That's caused, mostly, by a misalignment of the track bar and drag link.
You didn't say if you replaced the track bar or the alignment shop did.
Anyway, the trackbar needs to be inline, as close as possible to the
drag link.
I'ld also check all the various tie rod ends and make sure that they are
tight.
You didn't mention which (brand) trackbar that you got. Since it's
recently installed that's the first thing that I would check. Make sure
the axle end and frame end are still tight, and that the bolts have
loosened.
Some brands have a tendency to do that.
Best,
Fred
Mike H. wrote:
>I will start out with what I have.
>02 TJ 4.0 3" tera springs, Stock controll arms.
>Adjustable trac bar from O.R.U. (same brand name as a shock)
>JKS quick discos and everything else in the front end is stock.
> I had a bad trac bar in the front for about 5k miles
>and when I got it alligned I experienced major death wobble so I
>bought the new trac bar.
>Anyhow 3 weeks later I got another alignment because I was having
>oversteer problems BAAAAAD and my alignment was off -.25
>kinda wierd that it was off so quickly with no off roading or
>upgrades except the trac bar.
>Well I'm having the oversteer problem again. (whats oversteer you
>ask) When I move the steering wheel 1 billionth of an inch the front
>end moves 3 feet. I can hardly keep it in the lane when it's bumpy
>and if I hit a bump in the middle of a turn heaven help the guy next
>to me on the inside. I have almost written Goodyear on many doors in
>the last few weeks..
>
>Has anyone experienced this? What did you do to fix it? My Jeep only
>has 35k Miles on it. I'm thinking that replacing the controll arms
>might help but I'm really not sure.
>Thanks for any info you have,
>Mike H.
>
>hiett710@y...
>
>
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94235 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:02pm
Subject: Re: OT--Welding question
Rather than a Miller 135, I'ld *highly* suggest that you save a few more
pennies and get the 220V Miller 175 or Hobart (which is made by Miller
and a little less expensive).
A 175 amp is really about the smallest that you can use on most "Jeep"
things ;)
Best,
Fred
Keith wrote:
>I got a cheapie little wire feed welder {80a} welder from a cousin. I
>know it's not going to be big enough. But I figure it's something to
>learn with till I can afford a Miller135. I haven't had a welder in my
>hand sense the early 70's. Anyway, what's the thickest I can weld with
>this and expect it to hold? I'd like to build a welding cart/table,
>about 2'X4". What should I use, angle or tubing, and thickness?
>Thanks
>Keith
>
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94236 From: Fred Wilson <fredtj@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:04pm
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2001 TJ - 33's or 35's with 3.73 gears
You'll probably "loose" 5th gear on anything except a downhill section
of road.
Off roading will be damn painfull without a 4:1 in the xfer case, and
even with that will "hurt" with only 3.73's.
4.88's will be best, and even that will require a 4:1 to 4 wheel in
anything very rocky, where you need to crawl slowly.. You'll be slipping
the hell out of your clutch.
Fred
AzVJC Website wrote:
>Looking for new tires, I would like to know if anyone is running 35's with 3.73 gears 5 speed 4.0L.
>Any input would be greatly appreciated.
>Tom
>rychtiks@e...
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94237 From: <rokkcrawler@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 7:12am
Subject: Re: [Tech] 2001 TJ - 33's or 35's with 3.73 gears
I had 4.56 gears with the same senario, wish I would have gotten 4.88's
looking back. I wouild think your 3.73's in low range without a 4:1 would feel
like 4:88's in 4high and not low.
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94238 From: Jon Loveless-Jeep <azjeepin@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:53pm
Subject: Possible Jeep for sale
I may have to sell my Jeep. Not sure yet, so this is just for feelers.
1998 TJ 38,000 miles
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Dark Green
4.0 L
5 Speed
Warn 9500i Winch with poly rope
Custom Roll cage
Custom Winch Plate
Custom Spare Tire carrier
Permanent steel back deck cover (no rear seat)
37x12.5x15 MTRs - near new on Black Am Racing steel rims
AirRaid RAM air cleaner
Gibson CatBack
TeraLow
Tera2Lo
TeraFlex 4" lift System
1" body and motormount lift
2" spring spacers
Sun Rock Guards
Kilby Gas Tank skid plate
Front: DynaTrax High Pinion 44
Rear: Tera CRD High Pinion 66
4.56 gears
ARB front and rear
CO2 PowerTank with extra tank
Disk brakes x 4
CV shaft
Cobra CB
Firestick antenna
Night rock lights
3 point harness Driver and Passenger
Bestop 1/2 cab SunRider
Bestop rain cover
1/2 doors and 2 sets windows (clear plexi and glass)
$22,000
Pictures at:
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b3557f6a4576
If you are interested please call at: 480-816-0963
94239 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: Re: [Arizona_Jeep_Club] Possible Jeep for sale
WTF???
Say it ain't so....
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Loveless-Jeep" <azjeepin@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:53 PM
Subject: [Arizona_Jeep_Club] Possible Jeep for sale
I may have to sell my Jeep. Not sure yet, so this is just for feelers.
1998 TJ 38,000 miles
--------------------
Dark Green
4.0 L
5 Speed
Warn 9500i Winch with poly rope
Custom Roll cage
Custom Winch Plate
Custom Spare Tire carrier
Permanent steel back deck cover (no rear seat)
37x12.5x15 MTRs - near new on Black Am Racing steel rims
AirRaid RAM air cleaner
Gibson CatBack
TeraLow
Tera2Lo
TeraFlex 4" lift System
1" body and motormount lift
2" spring spacers
Sun Rock Guards
Kilby Gas Tank skid plate
Front: DynaTrax High Pinion 44
Rear: Tera CRD High Pinion 66
4.56 gears
ARB front and rear
CO2 PowerTank with extra tank
Disk brakes x 4
CV shaft
Cobra CB
Firestick antenna
Night rock lights
3 point harness Driver and Passenger
Bestop 1/2 cab SunRider
Bestop rain cover
1/2 doors and 2 sets windows (clear plexi and glass)
$22,000
Pictures at:
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b3557f6a4576
If you are interested please call at: 480-816-0963
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94240 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: Oil sending unit...
I need a new oil sending unit for my 97 TJ, 2.5l...I've found out
that is a stealer only item and the local stealership (in Havasu)
wants $65 for it. HOLY CRAP!!! Does anyone have a contact at one of
the stealerships in Phoenix that can get one for WAAAY cheaper than
that?
TIA,
Dan
94241 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:02pm
Subject: RE: Possible Jeep for sale
I get dibs on the rear axle!!!
Joe F. West
Applications Consultant Synopsys Corporation
Cell (650)861-1359 Office (480) 733-2147
Blackberry PIN 2005DD8F
-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Loveless-Jeep [mailto:azjeepin@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:54 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Possible Jeep for sale
I may have to sell my Jeep. Not sure yet, so this is just for feelers.
1998 TJ 38,000 miles
--------------------
Dark Green
4.0 L
5 Speed
Warn 9500i Winch with poly rope
Custom Roll cage
Custom Winch Plate
Custom Spare Tire carrier
Permanent steel back deck cover (no rear seat)
37x12.5x15 MTRs - near new on Black Am Racing steel rims
AirRaid RAM air cleaner
Gibson CatBack
TeraLow
Tera2Lo
TeraFlex 4" lift System
1" body and motormount lift
2" spring spacers
Sun Rock Guards
Kilby Gas Tank skid plate
Front: DynaTrax High Pinion 44
Rear: Tera CRD High Pinion 66
4.56 gears
ARB front and rear
CO2 PowerTank with extra tank
Disk brakes x 4
CV shaft
Cobra CB
Firestick antenna
Night rock lights
3 point harness Driver and Passenger
Bestop 1/2 cab SunRider
Bestop rain cover
1/2 doors and 2 sets windows (clear plexi and glass)
$22,000
Pictures at:
http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b3557f6a4576
If you are interested please call at: 480-816-0963
Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
94242 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:13pm
Subject: [Tech] 1998 Cherokee - In need of hitch for cherokee
I am looking for a hitch for my 98 cherokee classic. I have several places to buy a new hitch but thought one of the members out there may have one they have taken off for clearance. Anyone have what im looking for???
Thanks..
Brian Freyberger
94243 From: olneyjeeps <olneyjeeps@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:26pm
Subject: Re: sandy beach trail/stacking rocks
Excuuuse me for setting tread on a trail which it appears you would
like reserved for rock crawling gods as yourself
As it appears you coulden't read the first time from your throne:
1) I turned around (over 3 mile in, as a reasonable / responsible
driver) because I had determined that (at that time) I was not
properly equiped and did not have the resources if I were to get into
trouble.
2) I did recommend / advise against attempting without lots of
clearance.
Furthermore in respinse to your comments,
"Lets not ruin another good trail!!!!"
As long as it is not causing long term damage (such as the semi
perminant marks you leave behind while attempting to climb near
vertical "obsticals") it is not my, your, or anyone's right to
say where someone does or does not belong (I don't recall seeing you
at the last BLM meeting either)
FYI, hydrodynamic lession: mooving 4-5 15lb rocks in the bottom of a
wash frequented by water moving at several thousand cubic feet per
minute is not what I would call "ruining another good trail."
"If you need to stack rocks 20 yards into it, you do not belong
on that trail."
I suppose that is why you have a winch mounted (which I'm sure you
always use before spinning all four gouging and spiting rock and
admitting lack of ability to move unassisted). Let's compare
possible long term damage: rocks in bottom of wash vs. tire scars on
vertical terrain after futile spinning. Havng attended several
competitions, I'm sure your spotter has never stacked a rock or two
for you, right?
By the way, I have been responsibly wheeling / hiking in this area
since the early 70's; you?
See you at the next BLM meeting
Steve
> Lets not ruin another good trail!!!!
> This trail has been run by experienced drivers and rigs equipped to
do it,
> without STACKING ROCKS for years. If you need to stack rocks 20
yards into
> it, you do not belong on that trail.
> There are plenty of trails out there for everyones level.
>
> Todd
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> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: new member/ sandy beach
> >
> >Earlier this year, after talking with many people and surveying
> from
> >the air, I led a group on the sandy beach trail.
> >The first 3miles are very easy. The next mile is really really
> really
> >nasty. Because the other members of the group did not want to go
further,
> >I (78CJ7 4" lift,33x12.5 BFG's+f+r lockers) only the first 20-30
yards; it
> >took about 30 minutes + broken shackle + lots of stacking+ body
damage to
> >get back out.
> >I would love to lead another groop (challange/hint hint) but
> required
> >equipment would be:
> >minumum 33x125, 35+ (33's=lot of body damage probable)
> >Front and rear lockers
> >winch + hooks strong back (rocks are heavy)
> >
> >Call if interested
> >Steve Olney
>
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