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94119 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 5:13pm
Subject: RE: Need help with a heater/air problem
No knobs on a '98 except for the fan speed control.
The vent positions are controlled via vacuum. Yours is most likely not
working. Time to pull the front of the dash off and start poking
around. No real guarantee on what specific thing has broken.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Halverson [mailto:byrnec@q...]
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 4:38 PM
To: djjohnstone85296; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Need help with a heater/air problem
I would be willing to bet that the inside of the plastic knob is broken
and
spinning on the metal shaft.
Pull the knob off and have a look, I think they are about 6-7 bucks at
the
stealerships.
Happened to my 99 and I have seen numerous reports about it on this
board.
John Halverson
'99TJ
'51CJ3A
----- Original Message -----
From: "djjohnstone85296" <djohnstone@d...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 4:22 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need help with a heater/air problem
> I have a 98 TJ with the 4.0 and am having trouble with the heater/air
> controls. The fan speed and the hot/cold functions seem to work fine,
> but the control to direct the air does not work. The air always is
> directed to the defrost location. Any help or ideas of where to start
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>
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94120 From: john <hoardo2004@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 6:15pm
Subject: new member
hi I was just wondering on how to get to this sandy beach on the
coves at saguaro. I have been back to cove 6 but i keep hearing
rumors of this beach past that. any help would be appreciated.
94121 From: nilar708 <squarelights@h...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: Re: new member
boat, i dont know if you can get back there by ohv? i might be
wrong. i would like to know if you can get back there, if so what
type of rig you will need.
nick l.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "john" <hoardo2004@y...> wrote:
> hi I was just wondering on how to get to this sandy beach on the
> coves at saguaro. I have been back to cove 6 but i keep hearing
> rumors of this beach past that. any help would be appreciated.
94122 From: nilar708 <squarelights@h...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 8:27pm
Subject: OT, Sandrail Stuff Listed in Classifieds
check it out.
94123 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 10:05pm
Subject: Re: new member
Boat! Jeff CamoXJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "nilar708"
<squarelights@h...> wrote:
> boat, i dont know if you can get back there by ohv? i might be
> wrong. i would like to know if you can get back there, if so what
> type of rig you will need.
>
> nick l.
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "john" <hoardo2004@y...> wrote:
> > hi I was just wondering on how to get to this sandy beach on the
> > coves at saguaro. I have been back to cove 6 but i keep hearing
> > rumors of this beach past that. any help would be appreciated.
94124 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 4:36am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Jeff:
Either that ore maybe seal the "root holes" with a thin concrete?
Also, probably don't need to warn you, but be careful digging, you don't
want to shovel right into your gas or water line. =)
As for the water, it could just be going into the water table. You see
pumps all over Phoenix pumping groundwater out of the water table
(natural underground water) into the above-ground canals.
Tony
Jeff Trujillo wrote:
>found out my sinkhole problem. Ends up being old tree roots. I found
>around 20 of them so far that run straight to the house and right
>down the walls. They are totally empty except for the skin of the
>root. So its a perfect tunnel for water. So now I really have to dig
>everything up or its gonna keep doing it. I still need to find out
>where the water is going? I'm down to about 4 feet so far and still
>need to go another 8 or so feet plus the lenght of the bedroom wall
>that is affected. I'll keep you all posted and if you dont hear back
>from me in a week or so come pull me out :o) Jeff CamoXJ--- In
>az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
>
>
>>Your absolutly true on the irrigation. We "small" land owners get
>>
>>
>our
>
>
>>water when SRP schedules us which could be 2am or 1 PM. I talked to
>>the guy who built the house himself back on 73 and he said he built
>>it on calethcie (spelling) which is pretty damn hard. He had a hell
>>of a time getting it dug down into it. It took him 4 days w/ pick
>>
>>
>and
>
>
>>shovel to dig the footers. He also said the basement was built like
>>
>>
>a
>
>
>>vault. Steel rods every 24" and solid concrete in every single
>>
>>
>block.
>
>
>>Dont have to worry about falling into a hole if there is one. There
>>was nothing ever there on that portion of land. His parents owned
>>
>>
>it
>
>
>>along with the house behind it. He was the first to ever build
>>anything on it. 9th Ave was just barely a dirt road and didnt have
>>sewer back then so he tied into his parents which runs down Millet
>>Ave which runs the opposite direction. They did dig a very large
>>sewer ditch on 9th Ave which was later filled but dont know if they
>>compacted the dirt in the ditch. He did flood the basement one time
>>but that was because his kids had pet squirels they kept in the
>>basement window wells which tunneled out into the yard and when he
>>irrigated it came in the window. Which he later filled with 1' of
>>concrete in the bottom of the window well. They did have a big
>>problem with gophers which could explain the tunnels the water was
>>running into, but still doesnt explain where a swimming pool amount
>>of water disappeared and why one whole basement wall has standing
>>water next to it. I fill better about digging now to see what going
>>on next to the wall. I probably will start digging tonight and see
>>how far I get this weekend. Thanks all and still need a
>>
>>
>backhoe :o)
>
>
>>Jeff CamoXJ P.S. anyone want to help? LOL --- In
>>az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Matt,
>>>
>>>I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
>>>
>>>
>>flood
>>
>>
>>>irrigation. You might, but most folks who have lived here for
>>>
>>>
>some
>
>
>>>time don't have a clue either. My boss thinks its an excuse to
>>>
>>>
>get
>
>
>>out
>>
>>
>>>of work for a few hours every two weeks. Flood irrigation on
>>>residential properties is kind of a holdover from when the
>>>
>>>
>property
>
>
>>>was a farm or orchard. Most irrigated properties are 20 years or
>>>
>>>
>>older
>>
>>
>>>since it costs a lot for a developer to set up a ditch or pipe
>>>
>>>
>>system
>>
>>
>>>to handle a development. If you want a really green landscape
>>>
>>>
>here
>
>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>want flood irrigation. Our acre costs us about $80 a year to
>>>
>>>
>water.
>
>
>>>Compare that to the price of keeping an acre irrigated with tap
>>>
>>>
>>water
>>
>>
>>>and you can see why it's worth it. Since most irrigated areas
>>>
>>>
>were
>
>
>>old
>>
>>
>>>farm land there's always a chance you'll run into an old pipe or
>>>plumbing system though it's pretty rare, it is interesting when
>>>
>>>
>it
>
>
>>>happens. The one thing about flood irrigation is that if you have
>>>
>>>
>>less
>>
>>
>>>than 2 acres (I think that's the bottom limit) you can't schedule
>>>irrigation at your convenience. You sign up for it and get it
>>>
>>>
>when
>
>
>>>they (SRP) schedule it. We usually spend half the summer getting
>>>
>>>
>>ours
>>
>>
>>>at from 1-4am or some other early morning hours. Residential
>>>irrigation is scheduled every two weeks from April to October
>>>
>>>
>>(approx)
>>
>>
>>>and once a month from November to March. November is the annual
>>>
>>>
>>canal
>>
>>
>>>cleanout.
>>>
>>>There are two canal systems in the Phoenix area. The CAP is a
>>>
>>>
>>federal
>>
>>
>>>water project which supplies city drinking water and irrigation
>>>to large farms. SRP started as a cooperative for farmers and
>>>
>>>
>>ranchers
>>
>>
>>>in the valley. The large land owners still have the majority say
>>>
>>>
>in
>
>
>>>how the irrigation is distributed and at what cost. SRP also
>>>
>>>
>>supplies
>>
>>
>>>electric power to the valley. The CAP carries water from the
>>>
>>>
>>Colorado
>>
>>
>>>River. The SRP canals feed off the Salt River.
>>>
>>>Linda
>>>54 wagon
>>>
>>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the
>>>>
>>>>
>first
>
>
>>>>thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They
>>>>
>>>>
>>may
>>
>>
>>>>not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good to
>>>>
>>>>
>>know
>>
>>
>>>>one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
>>>>determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken
>>>>
>>>>
>water/sewer
>
>
>>>>line, etc).
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>>K7MTO
>>>>
>>>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
>>>>
>>>>
>><jeff.trujillo@m...>
>>
>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>tried
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming
>>>>>
>>>>>
>pools.
>
>
>>>>Thats
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
>>>>>possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if
>>>>>
>>>>>
>i
>
>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point
>>>>>
>>>>>
>that
>
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
94125 From: Jim Russell <desertjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 7:11am
Subject: OT- Thanks Rick
Just wanted to thank Rick Beer for setting me up to get tires for the motor home at Discount Tires here in Tucson. Had them installed yesterday, great deal, great service. Tony at the store here in Tucson did a great job of getting everything done for me. I had a real tight schedule and he really handled the situation well.
Thanks again Rick, Appreciate all the help!
Jim
Tucson
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94126 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 7:19am
Subject: [FS] Vendor Items Added
<p>
<font face=Arial>
Hello Members of the AzVJC,<br>
[Enter Vendor Name] has just added some items to the Classified section of the AzVJC Website that may be of
interest to you. To see these items
<a href='http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=X&ID=ForSale/default.asp?C=10'>
Click Here
</a>
or goto the website classifieds and select 'Vendor' from the list.<br>
Thank You,<br><br>
- The AzVJC Website<br><br>
</font>
</p>
94127 From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 8:29am
Subject: Poll results for az_vjc
The following az_vjc poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:
POLL QUESTION: If you're not going to the ASA4WDC
Jamboree this week, please share the
biggest reason. (results are anonymous)
CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Scheduling conflict, 10 votes, 23.81%
- Too far, 1 votes, 2.38%
- Too expensive, 12 votes, 28.57%
- I don't like crowds/large trail runs, 8 votes, 19.05%
- I didn't even know it existed, 1 votes, 2.38%
- It's too hot still!, 1 votes, 2.38%
- My Jeep is broken, 4 votes, 9.52%
- Other, 5 votes, 11.90%
For more information about this group, please visit
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/az_vjc
For help with Yahoo! Autos, please visit
http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/groups/
94128 From: Bill <whooven@c...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 8:36am
Subject: AZVJC high resolution logo for cards?
I met someone yesterday with a Jeep and mentioned AZVJC to them. They
asked for a card and I didn't have one so I had to fumble around to
find some paper and a pen to write the address down for them. I NEED
CARDS!
I'm going to have some general AZVJC cards printed that simply show
the logo, URL and a brief description of what we are so I can hand
them out when I see Jeep people here in town who are interested. Two
questions:
1) Does anyone have a high resolution AZVJC logo I can use for
printing
2) Is anyone else interested in joining in to buy a handful of cards
(cheap)?
As many of you know, sometimes an extra 500 cards or so costs very
little money so the more people who are interested, the cheaper it
becomes for everyone interested.
Thanks,
Bill Hooven
--------------
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http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
--------------------------------------------------------------
94129 From: Kevin & Kelly <kkhop@j...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 8:46am
Subject: Re: new member
I was told the only way to the beach was entering through
4 peaks ...
Kelly
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "john" <hoardo2004@y...> wrote:
> hi I was just wondering on how to get to this sandy beach on the
> coves at saguaro. I have been back to cove 6 but i keep hearing
> rumors of this beach past that. any help would be appreciated.
94130 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 8:50am
Subject: [FS] - Tomken Bumper and Tire Carrier.
Used bumper and tire carrier - Tomken brand. Fits CJ/YJ/TJ. I have
welded it so it will hold a 37" tire.
$150
Mike Baney
480-628-0204
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94131 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 9:18am
Subject: Old AzVJC Polls
There are 6 open polls on the AzVJC site. 5 of them are pretty old and
not very meaningful anymore. What does it take to close them? Mike,
can you close them or does it require the owner to do so?
Linda
54 wagon
94132 From: RAM <ramaz@c...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 9:57am
Subject: [OT] Free top soil
Morning all
I have some top soil I need to get rid of soon (this week). If anyone needs
it you may gladly have it (free), otherwise I will haul it to the dump.
There is about 2 or 3 full size pickup loads. I am at Elliott + 101.
Let me know if you are interested.
Randy
Randall A. Mutter
www.rmutter.com <http://www.rmutter.com/>
ramaz@c...
Thank goodness there are no 12 step programs for Jeeping...
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94133 From: <Hydrosense@a...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 5:27am
Subject: FRONT FENDER QUESTION!!
I got my first set of doner fenders for the plastic fender project yesterday.
There off a 86 comanche My question is: Are comanche and cherokee fenders
the same? I matched one up to Jeff's camo 96 xj and they seemed very alike but
want to ask ya'll just to make sure!! Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ.....
94134 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 10:31am
Subject: Re: FRONT FENDER QUESTION!!
Yes they are the same I have 97 XJ fenders on my 89 MJ right now the shape
for all xj fenders are the same the only difference is the mounting @ the
front grill header panel,, and the shaper of the fender flares
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://xjnation.homestead.com/xjnation.html
----Original Message Follows----
From: Hydrosense@a...
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
CC: Arizonaxj@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] FRONT FENDER QUESTION!!
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:27:36 EST
I got my first set of doner fenders for the plastic fender project
yesterday.
There off a 86 comanche My question is: Are comanche and cherokee
fenders
the same? I matched one up to Jeff's camo 96 xj and they seemed very alike
but
want to ask ya'll just to make sure!! Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ.....
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94135 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 0:28pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Those old tree roots sound like ****roach heaven.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> found out my sinkhole problem. Ends up being old tree roots. I found
> around 20 of them so far that run straight to the house and right
> down the walls. They are totally empty except for the skin of the
> root. So its a perfect tunnel for water. So now I really have to dig
> everything up or its gonna keep doing it. I still need to find out
> where the water is going? I'm down to about 4 feet so far and still
> need to go another 8 or so feet plus the lenght of the bedroom wall
> that is affected. I'll keep you all posted and if you dont hear back
> from me in a week or so come pull me out :o) Jeff CamoXJ--- In
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
> > Your absolutly true on the irrigation. We "small" land owners get
> our
> > water when SRP schedules us which could be 2am or 1 PM. I talked
to
> > the guy who built the house himself back on 73 and he said he
built
> > it on calethcie (spelling) which is pretty damn hard. He had a
hell
> > of a time getting it dug down into it. It took him 4 days w/ pick
> and
> > shovel to dig the footers. He also said the basement was built
like
> a
> > vault. Steel rods every 24" and solid concrete in every single
> block.
> > Dont have to worry about falling into a hole if there is one.
There
> > was nothing ever there on that portion of land. His parents owned
> it
> > along with the house behind it. He was the first to ever build
> > anything on it. 9th Ave was just barely a dirt road and didnt have
> > sewer back then so he tied into his parents which runs down Millet
> > Ave which runs the opposite direction. They did dig a very large
> > sewer ditch on 9th Ave which was later filled but dont know if
they
> > compacted the dirt in the ditch. He did flood the basement one
time
> > but that was because his kids had pet squirels they kept in the
> > basement window wells which tunneled out into the yard and when he
> > irrigated it came in the window. Which he later filled with 1' of
> > concrete in the bottom of the window well. They did have a big
> > problem with gophers which could explain the tunnels the water was
> > running into, but still doesnt explain where a swimming pool
amount
> > of water disappeared and why one whole basement wall has standing
> > water next to it. I fill better about digging now to see what
going
> > on next to the wall. I probably will start digging tonight and see
> > how far I get this weekend. Thanks all and still need a
> backhoe :o)
> > Jeff CamoXJ P.S. anyone want to help? LOL --- In
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
> > flood
> > > irrigation. You might, but most folks who have lived here for
> some
> > > time don't have a clue either. My boss thinks its an excuse to
> get
> > out
> > > of work for a few hours every two weeks. Flood irrigation on
> > > residential properties is kind of a holdover from when the
> property
> > > was a farm or orchard. Most irrigated properties are 20 years or
> > older
> > > since it costs a lot for a developer to set up a ditch or pipe
> > system
> > > to handle a development. If you want a really green landscape
> here
> > you
> > > want flood irrigation. Our acre costs us about $80 a year to
> water.
> > > Compare that to the price of keeping an acre irrigated with tap
> > water
> > > and you can see why it's worth it. Since most irrigated areas
> were
> > old
> > > farm land there's always a chance you'll run into an old pipe or
> > > plumbing system though it's pretty rare, it is interesting when
> it
> > > happens. The one thing about flood irrigation is that if you
have
> > less
> > > than 2 acres (I think that's the bottom limit) you can't
schedule
> > > irrigation at your convenience. You sign up for it and get it
> when
> > > they (SRP) schedule it. We usually spend half the summer getting
> > ours
> > > at from 1-4am or some other early morning hours. Residential
> > > irrigation is scheduled every two weeks from April to October
> > (approx)
> > > and once a month from November to March. November is the annual
> > canal
> > > cleanout.
> > >
> > > There are two canal systems in the Phoenix area. The CAP is a
> > federal
> > > water project which supplies city drinking water and irrigation
> > > to large farms. SRP started as a cooperative for farmers and
> > ranchers
> > > in the valley. The large land owners still have the majority say
> in
> > > how the irrigation is distributed and at what cost. SRP also
> > supplies
> > > electric power to the valley. The CAP carries water from the
> > Colorado
> > > River. The SRP canals feed off the Salt River.
> > >
> > > Linda
> > > 54 wagon
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
wrote:
> > > > Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the
> first
> > > > thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They
> > may
> > > > not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good
to
> > know
> > > > one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
> > > > determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken
> water/sewer
> > > > line, etc).
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > > K7MTO
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
> > <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If
you
> > > tried
> > > > > to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming
> pools.
> > > > Thats
> > > > > how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house
or
> > > > > possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if
> i
> > > have
> > > > > to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point
> that
> > > the
> > > > > roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL
Jeff
94136 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 1:09pm
Subject: RE: AZVJC high resolution logo for cards?
I'd pitch in a few bucks for some cards .
Purple ,
602 788-5889
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill [mailto:whooven@c...]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:37 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] AZVJC high resolution logo for cards?
I met someone yesterday with a Jeep and mentioned AZVJC to them. They
asked for a card and I didn't have one so I had to fumble around to
find some paper and a pen to write the address down for them. I NEED
CARDS!
I'm going to have some general AZVJC cards printed that simply show
the logo, URL and a brief description of what we are so I can hand
them out when I see Jeep people here in town who are interested. Two
questions:
1) Does anyone have a high resolution AZVJC logo I can use for
printing
2) Is anyone else interested in joining in to buy a handful of cards
(cheap)?
As many of you know, sometimes an extra 500 cards or so costs very
little money so the more people who are interested, the cheaper it
becomes for everyone interested.
Thanks,
Bill Hooven
--------------
Bill - Jeeps Only
http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
--------------------------------------------------------------
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94137 From: Dennis <enlil_20@h...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 1:39pm
Subject: Jeep @ Chaparral Suites in Scottsdale
Over the weekend (Saturday night) I saw a sweet jeep in the parking
lot of Chaparral Suites hotel. It was a Blue or Green TJ sport. ARB
lockers, looked like TBT front, rear, and rocker guards, currie
antirock, warn up front, Yokohama MTs, warn diff guards/truss. This
jeep was sweet. Anyhow, to whomever owns this rig its a monster.
Every jeepers dream!!!! Hope you didnt mind me droolin all over it.
Dennis
94138 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 2:59pm
Subject: Back from SEMA
Well there wasnt a lot of new Jeep stuff this year at SEMA, last
year was the big long arm boom so there were a lot of Jeep displays.
About the newest thing there this year was a couple Libertys done up
with 35" tires. One was a complete custom coil over deal and the
other was a simple 4" kit and minor fender trimming to fit the 35s.
They had a Dodge Hemi stuffed in a TJ... that was pretty sweet!
Teraflex is now in the selectable locker business making a locker
for the 30, 35, 44 and 60 with a GM locker in the lineup next year.
They are using an air actuator. Everything inside the pumpkin is
mechanical and the air actuator is on the ouside protected by the
built in skid plate on the diff cover. The diff cover comes with the
locker like the ox, and is priced around $1,000! Speaking of OX
there was a company there that had OX stickers at their display so I
had to inquire about the fate of the OX locker. Apparently one of
the OX buyouts fell through, now a susidiary of this company owns a
company that owns OX. Huh? I know I got confused also, but here is
the bottom line. The OX is alive and well and will have the new
website up soon!! Other then that there were the typical custom
trucks, lowered cars and all that jazz. I have a few pics up on my
website so you can check them out. There arent a lot of pics because
I was too busy stuffing my backpack full of stickers, pens, hats, t-
shirts and all that good stuff! -Rob
94139 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 3:00pm
Subject: Re: Back from SEMA
DOH... forgot the link....
http://www.wingnutskates.com/sema.htm
-Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Williams" <g_rob_williams@y...>
wrote:
> Well there wasnt a lot of new Jeep stuff this year at SEMA, last
> year was the big long arm boom so there were a lot of Jeep
displays.
> About the newest thing there this year was a couple Libertys done
up
> with 35" tires. One was a complete custom coil over deal and the
> other was a simple 4" kit and minor fender trimming to fit the
35s.
> They had a Dodge Hemi stuffed in a TJ... that was pretty sweet!
> Teraflex is now in the selectable locker business making a locker
> for the 30, 35, 44 and 60 with a GM locker in the lineup next
year.
> They are using an air actuator. Everything inside the pumpkin is
> mechanical and the air actuator is on the ouside protected by the
> built in skid plate on the diff cover. The diff cover comes with
the
> locker like the ox, and is priced around $1,000! Speaking of OX
> there was a company there that had OX stickers at their display so
I
> had to inquire about the fate of the OX locker. Apparently one of
> the OX buyouts fell through, now a susidiary of this company owns
a
> company that owns OX. Huh? I know I got confused also, but here is
> the bottom line. The OX is alive and well and will have the new
> website up soon!! Other then that there were the typical custom
> trucks, lowered cars and all that jazz. I have a few pics up on my
> website so you can check them out. There arent a lot of pics
because
> I was too busy stuffing my backpack full of stickers, pens, hats,
t-
> shirts and all that good stuff! -Rob
94140 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 3:18pm
Subject: [Tech] 2003 TJ - 35c Powertrax
My Jeep has 4.56 gears and I had a Powertrax in my 35c. I read many articles saying the Powertrax worked super and you couldn't tell it was there on the street. Don't believe it. ANY locker on the street will make your rig handle funny. I broke and axle a few weeks ago right where the splines enter the Powertrax. There were many witnesses who said the axle never should have broken. I happened on a hill I had traveled many times before having the Powertrax installed. I now have a Super 35 kit from Yukon which includes much stronger axles and a Detroit Locker. Contrary to what everyone says, the Detroit is friendlier on the street than the Powertrax and it works even better off-road. If you are making the change to a locker, go the extra bucks for the Yukon kit and get a stronger better rear end. Unless you can afford a D44, which I can't. Email me if you have questions.
Pat
Pat Stevenson
94141 From: Brian Luse <graymatterwj@y...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 4:28pm
Subject: Itssss aaaaaa liveeeee!!!!!
After 13 months of restoration, we took the MB on its maiden drive
today! It isn't quite perfect yet, and has a bit of trouble with
idle (carb need rebuilt), but it moved under its own power! What a
wonderful sound it makes. Many thanks to Steve Olney! I will post
a few pics later, and with a bit of luck and hard work, I hope to
have it ready for the BBQ. Words can't really justify how I am
feeling. I am quite happy at the moment. Thanks to all who helped
me put it back together.
Brian Luse
1942 Willys MB - that runs!
2003 Rubicon
94142 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 5:57pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Upper) - Sunday, November 9, 2003
Hello All,
Joe Bornkessel lead a trail run Sunday, November 9, 2003 across Terminator (Upper)
We could not of asked for a more perfect day to run a couple of trails, the weather was GREAT. The group size made for smooth, nice paced trip. No real problems, towards the end of Upper Terminator we did have one shackle reverse leading to a bent leaf. Once on Judgement Day we were down to two Jeeps and moved through it fairly quickly also. Brad drove the center of the waterfall. It was nice to meet you Jeff and J
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1087
Click the above link to View Pictures (if available)Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94143 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 7:07pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Dont have those. The root holes look very clean, just like water been
running through them and thats it. We do a regular maintenance for
bugs. Jeff CamoXJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda"
<minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Those old tree roots sound like ****roach heaven.
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > found out my sinkhole problem. Ends up being old tree roots. I
found
> > around 20 of them so far that run straight to the house and right
> > down the walls. They are totally empty except for the skin of the
> > root. So its a perfect tunnel for water. So now I really have to
dig
> > everything up or its gonna keep doing it. I still need to find
out
> > where the water is going? I'm down to about 4 feet so far and
still
> > need to go another 8 or so feet plus the lenght of the bedroom
wall
> > that is affected. I'll keep you all posted and if you dont hear
back
> > from me in a week or so come pull me out :o) Jeff CamoXJ--- In
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> > > Your absolutly true on the irrigation. We "small" land owners
get
> > our
> > > water when SRP schedules us which could be 2am or 1 PM. I
talked
> to
> > > the guy who built the house himself back on 73 and he said he
> built
> > > it on calethcie (spelling) which is pretty damn hard. He had a
> hell
> > > of a time getting it dug down into it. It took him 4 days w/
pick
> > and
> > > shovel to dig the footers. He also said the basement was built
> like
> > a
> > > vault. Steel rods every 24" and solid concrete in every single
> > block.
> > > Dont have to worry about falling into a hole if there is one.
> There
> > > was nothing ever there on that portion of land. His parents
owned
> > it
> > > along with the house behind it. He was the first to ever build
> > > anything on it. 9th Ave was just barely a dirt road and didnt
have
> > > sewer back then so he tied into his parents which runs down
Millet
> > > Ave which runs the opposite direction. They did dig a very
large
> > > sewer ditch on 9th Ave which was later filled but dont know if
> they
> > > compacted the dirt in the ditch. He did flood the basement one
> time
> > > but that was because his kids had pet squirels they kept in the
> > > basement window wells which tunneled out into the yard and when
he
> > > irrigated it came in the window. Which he later filled with 1'
of
> > > concrete in the bottom of the window well. They did have a big
> > > problem with gophers which could explain the tunnels the water
was
> > > running into, but still doesnt explain where a swimming pool
> amount
> > > of water disappeared and why one whole basement wall has
standing
> > > water next to it. I fill better about digging now to see what
> going
> > > on next to the wall. I probably will start digging tonight and
see
> > > how far I get this weekend. Thanks all and still need a
> > backhoe :o)
> > > Jeff CamoXJ P.S. anyone want to help? LOL --- In
> > > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > > I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much
about
> > > flood
> > > > irrigation. You might, but most folks who have lived here for
> > some
> > > > time don't have a clue either. My boss thinks its an excuse
to
> > get
> > > out
> > > > of work for a few hours every two weeks. Flood irrigation on
> > > > residential properties is kind of a holdover from when the
> > property
> > > > was a farm or orchard. Most irrigated properties are 20 years
or
> > > older
> > > > since it costs a lot for a developer to set up a ditch or
pipe
> > > system
> > > > to handle a development. If you want a really green landscape
> > here
> > > you
> > > > want flood irrigation. Our acre costs us about $80 a year to
> > water.
> > > > Compare that to the price of keeping an acre irrigated with
tap
> > > water
> > > > and you can see why it's worth it. Since most irrigated areas
> > were
> > > old
> > > > farm land there's always a chance you'll run into an old pipe
or
> > > > plumbing system though it's pretty rare, it is interesting
when
> > it
> > > > happens. The one thing about flood irrigation is that if you
> have
> > > less
> > > > than 2 acres (I think that's the bottom limit) you can't
> schedule
> > > > irrigation at your convenience. You sign up for it and get it
> > when
> > > > they (SRP) schedule it. We usually spend half the summer
getting
> > > ours
> > > > at from 1-4am or some other early morning hours. Residential
> > > > irrigation is scheduled every two weeks from April to October
> > > (approx)
> > > > and once a month from November to March. November is the
annual
> > > canal
> > > > cleanout.
> > > >
> > > > There are two canal systems in the Phoenix area. The CAP is a
> > > federal
> > > > water project which supplies city drinking water and
irrigation
> > > > to large farms. SRP started as a cooperative for farmers and
> > > ranchers
> > > > in the valley. The large land owners still have the majority
say
> > in
> > > > how the irrigation is distributed and at what cost. SRP also
> > > supplies
> > > > electric power to the valley. The CAP carries water from the
> > > Colorado
> > > > River. The SRP canals feed off the Salt River.
> > > >
> > > > Linda
> > > > 54 wagon
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
> wrote:
> > > > > Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the
> > first
> > > > > thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company.
They
> > > may
> > > > > not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be
good
> to
> > > know
> > > > > one way or the other), but they might know who to contact
to
> > > > > determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken
> > water/sewer
> > > > > line, etc).
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt
> > > > > K7MTO
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
> > > <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If
> you
> > > > tried
> > > > > > to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming
> > pools.
> > > > > Thats
> > > > > > how much water disapeared into the ground next to my
house
> or
> > > > > > possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or
if
> > i
> > > > have
> > > > > > to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a
point
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL
> Jeff
94119 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 5:13pm
Subject: RE: Need help with a heater/air problem
No knobs on a '98 except for the fan speed control.
The vent positions are controlled via vacuum. Yours is most likely not
working. Time to pull the front of the dash off and start poking
around. No real guarantee on what specific thing has broken.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Halverson [mailto:byrnec@q...]
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 4:38 PM
To: djjohnstone85296; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Need help with a heater/air problem
I would be willing to bet that the inside of the plastic knob is broken
and
spinning on the metal shaft.
Pull the knob off and have a look, I think they are about 6-7 bucks at
the
stealerships.
Happened to my 99 and I have seen numerous reports about it on this
board.
John Halverson
'99TJ
'51CJ3A
----- Original Message -----
From: "djjohnstone85296" <djohnstone@d...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 4:22 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Need help with a heater/air problem
> I have a 98 TJ with the 4.0 and am having trouble with the heater/air
> controls. The fan speed and the hot/cold functions seem to work fine,
> but the control to direct the air does not work. The air always is
> directed to the defrost location. Any help or ideas of where to start
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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94120 From: john <hoardo2004@y...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 6:15pm
Subject: new member
hi I was just wondering on how to get to this sandy beach on the
coves at saguaro. I have been back to cove 6 but i keep hearing
rumors of this beach past that. any help would be appreciated.
94121 From: nilar708 <squarelights@h...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: Re: new member
boat, i dont know if you can get back there by ohv? i might be
wrong. i would like to know if you can get back there, if so what
type of rig you will need.
nick l.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "john" <hoardo2004@y...> wrote:
> hi I was just wondering on how to get to this sandy beach on the
> coves at saguaro. I have been back to cove 6 but i keep hearing
> rumors of this beach past that. any help would be appreciated.
94122 From: nilar708 <squarelights@h...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 8:27pm
Subject: OT, Sandrail Stuff Listed in Classifieds
check it out.
94123 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Sat Nov 8, 2003 10:05pm
Subject: Re: new member
Boat! Jeff CamoXJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "nilar708"
<squarelights@h...> wrote:
> boat, i dont know if you can get back there by ohv? i might be
> wrong. i would like to know if you can get back there, if so what
> type of rig you will need.
>
> nick l.
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "john" <hoardo2004@y...> wrote:
> > hi I was just wondering on how to get to this sandy beach on the
> > coves at saguaro. I have been back to cove 6 but i keep hearing
> > rumors of this beach past that. any help would be appreciated.
94124 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 4:36am
Subject: Re: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Jeff:
Either that ore maybe seal the "root holes" with a thin concrete?
Also, probably don't need to warn you, but be careful digging, you don't
want to shovel right into your gas or water line. =)
As for the water, it could just be going into the water table. You see
pumps all over Phoenix pumping groundwater out of the water table
(natural underground water) into the above-ground canals.
Tony
Jeff Trujillo wrote:
>found out my sinkhole problem. Ends up being old tree roots. I found
>around 20 of them so far that run straight to the house and right
>down the walls. They are totally empty except for the skin of the
>root. So its a perfect tunnel for water. So now I really have to dig
>everything up or its gonna keep doing it. I still need to find out
>where the water is going? I'm down to about 4 feet so far and still
>need to go another 8 or so feet plus the lenght of the bedroom wall
>that is affected. I'll keep you all posted and if you dont hear back
>from me in a week or so come pull me out :o) Jeff CamoXJ--- In
>az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
>
>
>>Your absolutly true on the irrigation. We "small" land owners get
>>
>>
>our
>
>
>>water when SRP schedules us which could be 2am or 1 PM. I talked to
>>the guy who built the house himself back on 73 and he said he built
>>it on calethcie (spelling) which is pretty damn hard. He had a hell
>>of a time getting it dug down into it. It took him 4 days w/ pick
>>
>>
>and
>
>
>>shovel to dig the footers. He also said the basement was built like
>>
>>
>a
>
>
>>vault. Steel rods every 24" and solid concrete in every single
>>
>>
>block.
>
>
>>Dont have to worry about falling into a hole if there is one. There
>>was nothing ever there on that portion of land. His parents owned
>>
>>
>it
>
>
>>along with the house behind it. He was the first to ever build
>>anything on it. 9th Ave was just barely a dirt road and didnt have
>>sewer back then so he tied into his parents which runs down Millet
>>Ave which runs the opposite direction. They did dig a very large
>>sewer ditch on 9th Ave which was later filled but dont know if they
>>compacted the dirt in the ditch. He did flood the basement one time
>>but that was because his kids had pet squirels they kept in the
>>basement window wells which tunneled out into the yard and when he
>>irrigated it came in the window. Which he later filled with 1' of
>>concrete in the bottom of the window well. They did have a big
>>problem with gophers which could explain the tunnels the water was
>>running into, but still doesnt explain where a swimming pool amount
>>of water disappeared and why one whole basement wall has standing
>>water next to it. I fill better about digging now to see what going
>>on next to the wall. I probably will start digging tonight and see
>>how far I get this weekend. Thanks all and still need a
>>
>>
>backhoe :o)
>
>
>>Jeff CamoXJ P.S. anyone want to help? LOL --- In
>>az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Matt,
>>>
>>>I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
>>>
>>>
>>flood
>>
>>
>>>irrigation. You might, but most folks who have lived here for
>>>
>>>
>some
>
>
>>>time don't have a clue either. My boss thinks its an excuse to
>>>
>>>
>get
>
>
>>out
>>
>>
>>>of work for a few hours every two weeks. Flood irrigation on
>>>residential properties is kind of a holdover from when the
>>>
>>>
>property
>
>
>>>was a farm or orchard. Most irrigated properties are 20 years or
>>>
>>>
>>older
>>
>>
>>>since it costs a lot for a developer to set up a ditch or pipe
>>>
>>>
>>system
>>
>>
>>>to handle a development. If you want a really green landscape
>>>
>>>
>here
>
>
>>you
>>
>>
>>>want flood irrigation. Our acre costs us about $80 a year to
>>>
>>>
>water.
>
>
>>>Compare that to the price of keeping an acre irrigated with tap
>>>
>>>
>>water
>>
>>
>>>and you can see why it's worth it. Since most irrigated areas
>>>
>>>
>were
>
>
>>old
>>
>>
>>>farm land there's always a chance you'll run into an old pipe or
>>>plumbing system though it's pretty rare, it is interesting when
>>>
>>>
>it
>
>
>>>happens. The one thing about flood irrigation is that if you have
>>>
>>>
>>less
>>
>>
>>>than 2 acres (I think that's the bottom limit) you can't schedule
>>>irrigation at your convenience. You sign up for it and get it
>>>
>>>
>when
>
>
>>>they (SRP) schedule it. We usually spend half the summer getting
>>>
>>>
>>ours
>>
>>
>>>at from 1-4am or some other early morning hours. Residential
>>>irrigation is scheduled every two weeks from April to October
>>>
>>>
>>(approx)
>>
>>
>>>and once a month from November to March. November is the annual
>>>
>>>
>>canal
>>
>>
>>>cleanout.
>>>
>>>There are two canal systems in the Phoenix area. The CAP is a
>>>
>>>
>>federal
>>
>>
>>>water project which supplies city drinking water and irrigation
>>>to large farms. SRP started as a cooperative for farmers and
>>>
>>>
>>ranchers
>>
>>
>>>in the valley. The large land owners still have the majority say
>>>
>>>
>in
>
>
>>>how the irrigation is distributed and at what cost. SRP also
>>>
>>>
>>supplies
>>
>>
>>>electric power to the valley. The CAP carries water from the
>>>
>>>
>>Colorado
>>
>>
>>>River. The SRP canals feed off the Salt River.
>>>
>>>Linda
>>>54 wagon
>>>
>>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the
>>>>
>>>>
>first
>
>
>>>>thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They
>>>>
>>>>
>>may
>>
>>
>>>>not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good to
>>>>
>>>>
>>know
>>
>>
>>>>one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
>>>>determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken
>>>>
>>>>
>water/sewer
>
>
>>>>line, etc).
>>>>
>>>>Matt
>>>>K7MTO
>>>>
>>>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
>>>>
>>>>
>><jeff.trujillo@m...>
>>
>>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>tried
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming
>>>>>
>>>>>
>pools.
>
>
>>>>Thats
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
>>>>>possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if
>>>>>
>>>>>
>i
>
>
>>>have
>>>
>>>
>>>>>to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point
>>>>>
>>>>>
>that
>
>
>>>the
>>>
>>>
>>>>>roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
94125 From: Jim Russell <desertjeep@c...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 7:11am
Subject: OT- Thanks Rick
Just wanted to thank Rick Beer for setting me up to get tires for the motor home at Discount Tires here in Tucson. Had them installed yesterday, great deal, great service. Tony at the store here in Tucson did a great job of getting everything done for me. I had a real tight schedule and he really handled the situation well.
Thanks again Rick, Appreciate all the help!
Jim
Tucson
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94126 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 7:19am
Subject: [FS] Vendor Items Added
<p>
<font face=Arial>
Hello Members of the AzVJC,<br>
[Enter Vendor Name] has just added some items to the Classified section of the AzVJC Website that may be of
interest to you. To see these items
<a href='http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=X&ID=ForSale/default.asp?C=10'>
Click Here
</a>
or goto the website classifieds and select 'Vendor' from the list.<br>
Thank You,<br><br>
- The AzVJC Website<br><br>
</font>
</p>
94127 From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 8:29am
Subject: Poll results for az_vjc
The following az_vjc poll is now closed. Here are the
final results:
POLL QUESTION: If you're not going to the ASA4WDC
Jamboree this week, please share the
biggest reason. (results are anonymous)
CHOICES AND RESULTS
- Scheduling conflict, 10 votes, 23.81%
- Too far, 1 votes, 2.38%
- Too expensive, 12 votes, 28.57%
- I don't like crowds/large trail runs, 8 votes, 19.05%
- I didn't even know it existed, 1 votes, 2.38%
- It's too hot still!, 1 votes, 2.38%
- My Jeep is broken, 4 votes, 9.52%
- Other, 5 votes, 11.90%
For more information about this group, please visit
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94128 From: Bill <whooven@c...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 8:36am
Subject: AZVJC high resolution logo for cards?
I met someone yesterday with a Jeep and mentioned AZVJC to them. They
asked for a card and I didn't have one so I had to fumble around to
find some paper and a pen to write the address down for them. I NEED
CARDS!
I'm going to have some general AZVJC cards printed that simply show
the logo, URL and a brief description of what we are so I can hand
them out when I see Jeep people here in town who are interested. Two
questions:
1) Does anyone have a high resolution AZVJC logo I can use for
printing
2) Is anyone else interested in joining in to buy a handful of cards
(cheap)?
As many of you know, sometimes an extra 500 cards or so costs very
little money so the more people who are interested, the cheaper it
becomes for everyone interested.
Thanks,
Bill Hooven
--------------
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http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
--------------------------------------------------------------
94129 From: Kevin & Kelly <kkhop@j...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 8:46am
Subject: Re: new member
I was told the only way to the beach was entering through
4 peaks ...
Kelly
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "john" <hoardo2004@y...> wrote:
> hi I was just wondering on how to get to this sandy beach on the
> coves at saguaro. I have been back to cove 6 but i keep hearing
> rumors of this beach past that. any help would be appreciated.
94130 From: Mike Baney <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 8:50am
Subject: [FS] - Tomken Bumper and Tire Carrier.
Used bumper and tire carrier - Tomken brand. Fits CJ/YJ/TJ. I have
welded it so it will hold a 37" tire.
$150
Mike Baney
480-628-0204
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94131 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 9:18am
Subject: Old AzVJC Polls
There are 6 open polls on the AzVJC site. 5 of them are pretty old and
not very meaningful anymore. What does it take to close them? Mike,
can you close them or does it require the owner to do so?
Linda
54 wagon
94132 From: RAM <ramaz@c...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 9:57am
Subject: [OT] Free top soil
Morning all
I have some top soil I need to get rid of soon (this week). If anyone needs
it you may gladly have it (free), otherwise I will haul it to the dump.
There is about 2 or 3 full size pickup loads. I am at Elliott + 101.
Let me know if you are interested.
Randy
Randall A. Mutter
www.rmutter.com <http://www.rmutter.com/>
ramaz@c...
Thank goodness there are no 12 step programs for Jeeping...
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94133 From: <Hydrosense@a...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 5:27am
Subject: FRONT FENDER QUESTION!!
I got my first set of doner fenders for the plastic fender project yesterday.
There off a 86 comanche My question is: Are comanche and cherokee fenders
the same? I matched one up to Jeff's camo 96 xj and they seemed very alike but
want to ask ya'll just to make sure!! Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ.....
94134 From: Brian Harmon <xjnation@h...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 10:31am
Subject: Re: FRONT FENDER QUESTION!!
Yes they are the same I have 97 XJ fenders on my 89 MJ right now the shape
for all xj fenders are the same the only difference is the mounting @ the
front grill header panel,, and the shaper of the fender flares
Brian Harmon
88 XJ Laredo
http://xjnation.homestead.com/xjnation.html
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Subject: [az_vjc] FRONT FENDER QUESTION!!
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 13:27:36 EST
I got my first set of doner fenders for the plastic fender project
yesterday.
There off a 86 comanche My question is: Are comanche and cherokee
fenders
the same? I matched one up to Jeff's camo 96 xj and they seemed very alike
but
want to ask ya'll just to make sure!! Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ.....
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94135 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 0:28pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Those old tree roots sound like ****roach heaven.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> found out my sinkhole problem. Ends up being old tree roots. I found
> around 20 of them so far that run straight to the house and right
> down the walls. They are totally empty except for the skin of the
> root. So its a perfect tunnel for water. So now I really have to dig
> everything up or its gonna keep doing it. I still need to find out
> where the water is going? I'm down to about 4 feet so far and still
> need to go another 8 or so feet plus the lenght of the bedroom wall
> that is affected. I'll keep you all posted and if you dont hear back
> from me in a week or so come pull me out :o) Jeff CamoXJ--- In
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...> wrote:
> > Your absolutly true on the irrigation. We "small" land owners get
> our
> > water when SRP schedules us which could be 2am or 1 PM. I talked
to
> > the guy who built the house himself back on 73 and he said he
built
> > it on calethcie (spelling) which is pretty damn hard. He had a
hell
> > of a time getting it dug down into it. It took him 4 days w/ pick
> and
> > shovel to dig the footers. He also said the basement was built
like
> a
> > vault. Steel rods every 24" and solid concrete in every single
> block.
> > Dont have to worry about falling into a hole if there is one.
There
> > was nothing ever there on that portion of land. His parents owned
> it
> > along with the house behind it. He was the first to ever build
> > anything on it. 9th Ave was just barely a dirt road and didnt have
> > sewer back then so he tied into his parents which runs down Millet
> > Ave which runs the opposite direction. They did dig a very large
> > sewer ditch on 9th Ave which was later filled but dont know if
they
> > compacted the dirt in the ditch. He did flood the basement one
time
> > but that was because his kids had pet squirels they kept in the
> > basement window wells which tunneled out into the yard and when he
> > irrigated it came in the window. Which he later filled with 1' of
> > concrete in the bottom of the window well. They did have a big
> > problem with gophers which could explain the tunnels the water was
> > running into, but still doesnt explain where a swimming pool
amount
> > of water disappeared and why one whole basement wall has standing
> > water next to it. I fill better about digging now to see what
going
> > on next to the wall. I probably will start digging tonight and see
> > how far I get this weekend. Thanks all and still need a
> backhoe :o)
> > Jeff CamoXJ P.S. anyone want to help? LOL --- In
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
> > flood
> > > irrigation. You might, but most folks who have lived here for
> some
> > > time don't have a clue either. My boss thinks its an excuse to
> get
> > out
> > > of work for a few hours every two weeks. Flood irrigation on
> > > residential properties is kind of a holdover from when the
> property
> > > was a farm or orchard. Most irrigated properties are 20 years or
> > older
> > > since it costs a lot for a developer to set up a ditch or pipe
> > system
> > > to handle a development. If you want a really green landscape
> here
> > you
> > > want flood irrigation. Our acre costs us about $80 a year to
> water.
> > > Compare that to the price of keeping an acre irrigated with tap
> > water
> > > and you can see why it's worth it. Since most irrigated areas
> were
> > old
> > > farm land there's always a chance you'll run into an old pipe or
> > > plumbing system though it's pretty rare, it is interesting when
> it
> > > happens. The one thing about flood irrigation is that if you
have
> > less
> > > than 2 acres (I think that's the bottom limit) you can't
schedule
> > > irrigation at your convenience. You sign up for it and get it
> when
> > > they (SRP) schedule it. We usually spend half the summer getting
> > ours
> > > at from 1-4am or some other early morning hours. Residential
> > > irrigation is scheduled every two weeks from April to October
> > (approx)
> > > and once a month from November to March. November is the annual
> > canal
> > > cleanout.
> > >
> > > There are two canal systems in the Phoenix area. The CAP is a
> > federal
> > > water project which supplies city drinking water and irrigation
> > > to large farms. SRP started as a cooperative for farmers and
> > ranchers
> > > in the valley. The large land owners still have the majority say
> in
> > > how the irrigation is distributed and at what cost. SRP also
> > supplies
> > > electric power to the valley. The CAP carries water from the
> > Colorado
> > > River. The SRP canals feed off the Salt River.
> > >
> > > Linda
> > > 54 wagon
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
wrote:
> > > > Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the
> first
> > > > thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They
> > may
> > > > not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good
to
> > know
> > > > one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
> > > > determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken
> water/sewer
> > > > line, etc).
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > > K7MTO
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
> > <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If
you
> > > tried
> > > > > to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming
> pools.
> > > > Thats
> > > > > how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house
or
> > > > > possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if
> i
> > > have
> > > > > to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point
> that
> > > the
> > > > > roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL
Jeff
94136 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 1:09pm
Subject: RE: AZVJC high resolution logo for cards?
I'd pitch in a few bucks for some cards .
Purple ,
602 788-5889
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill [mailto:whooven@c...]
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 9:37 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] AZVJC high resolution logo for cards?
I met someone yesterday with a Jeep and mentioned AZVJC to them. They
asked for a card and I didn't have one so I had to fumble around to
find some paper and a pen to write the address down for them. I NEED
CARDS!
I'm going to have some general AZVJC cards printed that simply show
the logo, URL and a brief description of what we are so I can hand
them out when I see Jeep people here in town who are interested. Two
questions:
1) Does anyone have a high resolution AZVJC logo I can use for
printing
2) Is anyone else interested in joining in to buy a handful of cards
(cheap)?
As many of you know, sometimes an extra 500 cards or so costs very
little money so the more people who are interested, the cheaper it
becomes for everyone interested.
Thanks,
Bill Hooven
--------------
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http://www.jeepsonly.com
A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for Jeeps only
--------------------------------------------------------------
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94137 From: Dennis <enlil_20@h...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 1:39pm
Subject: Jeep @ Chaparral Suites in Scottsdale
Over the weekend (Saturday night) I saw a sweet jeep in the parking
lot of Chaparral Suites hotel. It was a Blue or Green TJ sport. ARB
lockers, looked like TBT front, rear, and rocker guards, currie
antirock, warn up front, Yokohama MTs, warn diff guards/truss. This
jeep was sweet. Anyhow, to whomever owns this rig its a monster.
Every jeepers dream!!!! Hope you didnt mind me droolin all over it.
Dennis
94138 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 2:59pm
Subject: Back from SEMA
Well there wasnt a lot of new Jeep stuff this year at SEMA, last
year was the big long arm boom so there were a lot of Jeep displays.
About the newest thing there this year was a couple Libertys done up
with 35" tires. One was a complete custom coil over deal and the
other was a simple 4" kit and minor fender trimming to fit the 35s.
They had a Dodge Hemi stuffed in a TJ... that was pretty sweet!
Teraflex is now in the selectable locker business making a locker
for the 30, 35, 44 and 60 with a GM locker in the lineup next year.
They are using an air actuator. Everything inside the pumpkin is
mechanical and the air actuator is on the ouside protected by the
built in skid plate on the diff cover. The diff cover comes with the
locker like the ox, and is priced around $1,000! Speaking of OX
there was a company there that had OX stickers at their display so I
had to inquire about the fate of the OX locker. Apparently one of
the OX buyouts fell through, now a susidiary of this company owns a
company that owns OX. Huh? I know I got confused also, but here is
the bottom line. The OX is alive and well and will have the new
website up soon!! Other then that there were the typical custom
trucks, lowered cars and all that jazz. I have a few pics up on my
website so you can check them out. There arent a lot of pics because
I was too busy stuffing my backpack full of stickers, pens, hats, t-
shirts and all that good stuff! -Rob
94139 From: Rob Williams <g_rob_williams@y...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 3:00pm
Subject: Re: Back from SEMA
DOH... forgot the link....
http://www.wingnutskates.com/sema.htm
-Rob
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Rob Williams" <g_rob_williams@y...>
wrote:
> Well there wasnt a lot of new Jeep stuff this year at SEMA, last
> year was the big long arm boom so there were a lot of Jeep
displays.
> About the newest thing there this year was a couple Libertys done
up
> with 35" tires. One was a complete custom coil over deal and the
> other was a simple 4" kit and minor fender trimming to fit the
35s.
> They had a Dodge Hemi stuffed in a TJ... that was pretty sweet!
> Teraflex is now in the selectable locker business making a locker
> for the 30, 35, 44 and 60 with a GM locker in the lineup next
year.
> They are using an air actuator. Everything inside the pumpkin is
> mechanical and the air actuator is on the ouside protected by the
> built in skid plate on the diff cover. The diff cover comes with
the
> locker like the ox, and is priced around $1,000! Speaking of OX
> there was a company there that had OX stickers at their display so
I
> had to inquire about the fate of the OX locker. Apparently one of
> the OX buyouts fell through, now a susidiary of this company owns
a
> company that owns OX. Huh? I know I got confused also, but here is
> the bottom line. The OX is alive and well and will have the new
> website up soon!! Other then that there were the typical custom
> trucks, lowered cars and all that jazz. I have a few pics up on my
> website so you can check them out. There arent a lot of pics
because
> I was too busy stuffing my backpack full of stickers, pens, hats,
t-
> shirts and all that good stuff! -Rob
94140 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 3:18pm
Subject: [Tech] 2003 TJ - 35c Powertrax
My Jeep has 4.56 gears and I had a Powertrax in my 35c. I read many articles saying the Powertrax worked super and you couldn't tell it was there on the street. Don't believe it. ANY locker on the street will make your rig handle funny. I broke and axle a few weeks ago right where the splines enter the Powertrax. There were many witnesses who said the axle never should have broken. I happened on a hill I had traveled many times before having the Powertrax installed. I now have a Super 35 kit from Yukon which includes much stronger axles and a Detroit Locker. Contrary to what everyone says, the Detroit is friendlier on the street than the Powertrax and it works even better off-road. If you are making the change to a locker, go the extra bucks for the Yukon kit and get a stronger better rear end. Unless you can afford a D44, which I can't. Email me if you have questions.
Pat
Pat Stevenson
94141 From: Brian Luse <graymatterwj@y...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 4:28pm
Subject: Itssss aaaaaa liveeeee!!!!!
After 13 months of restoration, we took the MB on its maiden drive
today! It isn't quite perfect yet, and has a bit of trouble with
idle (carb need rebuilt), but it moved under its own power! What a
wonderful sound it makes. Many thanks to Steve Olney! I will post
a few pics later, and with a bit of luck and hard work, I hope to
have it ready for the BBQ. Words can't really justify how I am
feeling. I am quite happy at the moment. Thanks to all who helped
me put it back together.
Brian Luse
1942 Willys MB - that runs!
2003 Rubicon
94142 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 5:57pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Terminator (Upper) - Sunday, November 9, 2003
Hello All,
Joe Bornkessel lead a trail run Sunday, November 9, 2003 across Terminator (Upper)
We could not of asked for a more perfect day to run a couple of trails, the weather was GREAT. The group size made for smooth, nice paced trip. No real problems, towards the end of Upper Terminator we did have one shackle reverse leading to a bent leaf. Once on Judgement Day we were down to two Jeeps and moved through it fairly quickly also. Brad drove the center of the waterfall. It was nice to meet you Jeff and J
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1087
Click the above link to View Pictures (if available)Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94143 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Sun Nov 9, 2003 7:07pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Dont have those. The root holes look very clean, just like water been
running through them and thats it. We do a regular maintenance for
bugs. Jeff CamoXJ--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda"
<minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Those old tree roots sound like ****roach heaven.
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > found out my sinkhole problem. Ends up being old tree roots. I
found
> > around 20 of them so far that run straight to the house and right
> > down the walls. They are totally empty except for the skin of the
> > root. So its a perfect tunnel for water. So now I really have to
dig
> > everything up or its gonna keep doing it. I still need to find
out
> > where the water is going? I'm down to about 4 feet so far and
still
> > need to go another 8 or so feet plus the lenght of the bedroom
wall
> > that is affected. I'll keep you all posted and if you dont hear
back
> > from me in a week or so come pull me out :o) Jeff CamoXJ--- In
> > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> > > Your absolutly true on the irrigation. We "small" land owners
get
> > our
> > > water when SRP schedules us which could be 2am or 1 PM. I
talked
> to
> > > the guy who built the house himself back on 73 and he said he
> built
> > > it on calethcie (spelling) which is pretty damn hard. He had a
> hell
> > > of a time getting it dug down into it. It took him 4 days w/
pick
> > and
> > > shovel to dig the footers. He also said the basement was built
> like
> > a
> > > vault. Steel rods every 24" and solid concrete in every single
> > block.
> > > Dont have to worry about falling into a hole if there is one.
> There
> > > was nothing ever there on that portion of land. His parents
owned
> > it
> > > along with the house behind it. He was the first to ever build
> > > anything on it. 9th Ave was just barely a dirt road and didnt
have
> > > sewer back then so he tied into his parents which runs down
Millet
> > > Ave which runs the opposite direction. They did dig a very
large
> > > sewer ditch on 9th Ave which was later filled but dont know if
> they
> > > compacted the dirt in the ditch. He did flood the basement one
> time
> > > but that was because his kids had pet squirels they kept in the
> > > basement window wells which tunneled out into the yard and when
he
> > > irrigated it came in the window. Which he later filled with 1'
of
> > > concrete in the bottom of the window well. They did have a big
> > > problem with gophers which could explain the tunnels the water
was
> > > running into, but still doesnt explain where a swimming pool
> amount
> > > of water disappeared and why one whole basement wall has
standing
> > > water next to it. I fill better about digging now to see what
> going
> > > on next to the wall. I probably will start digging tonight and
see
> > > how far I get this weekend. Thanks all and still need a
> > backhoe :o)
> > > Jeff CamoXJ P.S. anyone want to help? LOL --- In
> > > az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > > I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much
about
> > > flood
> > > > irrigation. You might, but most folks who have lived here for
> > some
> > > > time don't have a clue either. My boss thinks its an excuse
to
> > get
> > > out
> > > > of work for a few hours every two weeks. Flood irrigation on
> > > > residential properties is kind of a holdover from when the
> > property
> > > > was a farm or orchard. Most irrigated properties are 20 years
or
> > > older
> > > > since it costs a lot for a developer to set up a ditch or
pipe
> > > system
> > > > to handle a development. If you want a really green landscape
> > here
> > > you
> > > > want flood irrigation. Our acre costs us about $80 a year to
> > water.
> > > > Compare that to the price of keeping an acre irrigated with
tap
> > > water
> > > > and you can see why it's worth it. Since most irrigated areas
> > were
> > > old
> > > > farm land there's always a chance you'll run into an old pipe
or
> > > > plumbing system though it's pretty rare, it is interesting
when
> > it
> > > > happens. The one thing about flood irrigation is that if you
> have
> > > less
> > > > than 2 acres (I think that's the bottom limit) you can't
> schedule
> > > > irrigation at your convenience. You sign up for it and get it
> > when
> > > > they (SRP) schedule it. We usually spend half the summer
getting
> > > ours
> > > > at from 1-4am or some other early morning hours. Residential
> > > > irrigation is scheduled every two weeks from April to October
> > > (approx)
> > > > and once a month from November to March. November is the
annual
> > > canal
> > > > cleanout.
> > > >
> > > > There are two canal systems in the Phoenix area. The CAP is a
> > > federal
> > > > water project which supplies city drinking water and
irrigation
> > > > to large farms. SRP started as a cooperative for farmers and
> > > ranchers
> > > > in the valley. The large land owners still have the majority
say
> > in
> > > > how the irrigation is distributed and at what cost. SRP also
> > > supplies
> > > > electric power to the valley. The CAP carries water from the
> > > Colorado
> > > > River. The SRP canals feed off the Salt River.
> > > >
> > > > Linda
> > > > 54 wagon
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
> wrote:
> > > > > Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the
> > first
> > > > > thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company.
They
> > > may
> > > > > not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be
good
> to
> > > know
> > > > > one way or the other), but they might know who to contact
to
> > > > > determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken
> > water/sewer
> > > > > line, etc).
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt
> > > > > K7MTO
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
> > > <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If
> you
> > > > tried
> > > > > > to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming
> > pools.
> > > > > Thats
> > > > > > how much water disapeared into the ground next to my
house
> or
> > > > > > possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or
if
> > i
> > > > have
> > > > > > to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a
point
> > that
> > > > the
> > > > > > roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL
> Jeff