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01-08-2004, 10:39 PM
94044-94068
94044 From: Randy Davis <luvrocks@c...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 1:32pm
Subject: Re: [OT] T-MAXX SUNDAY????
hay flexy i use to take mine(when i had it) out by the lake off table mesa
there is some cool dirt jumps and dips.i all so have a 6' rocket the son and
i have been building that we would like to shoot off.i'm making a launch pad
tomorrow it uses F23-4FJ motors the ones that look like a stick of TNT!!!
Randy Davis
Arizona Rock Rats
Land Use Chairman
AZVJC!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Daro" <flexyxj98@m...>
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Cc: <badazxj@h...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:35 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] T-MAXX SUNDAY????
> Ok, I know alot of people here have a T-MAXX. I just got done getting the
> suspension set up for my long arm kit, Got my new piston/sleeve ported and
> installed. I was hoping to go out and do some 'MAXXIN with some people. I
> usually go to the riverbottom @ camelback, but I think its closed, so I am
> open for a spot with some sand, jumps, and dirt. I was thinking Sun morn
> around 10am till ?? If anyone is interested, please E-mail me off list @
> flexyxj98@m... Please let me know your crystal color (if you have a
> T-MAXX) So we dont all cross freq. I do have some others for anyone who
> might have the same color. LETS GO MAXXIN!!!! I need to justify the gobs
> of $$$$ sitting here that IS NOT JEEP $$$...scarey.
>
>
> FlexyXJ
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94045 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 1:55pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
I'm from the south (orginally) and we don't call 'em Golphers. We
lump all them furry little creatures together and they's all jest
varmints to us.
http://netsquirrel.com/crispen/word.html
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> Golphers = Way it is said in the Southern states
94046 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:12pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Matt,
Uhhhh, it was a joke to hide the fact that I misspelled Gopher...LOL
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> I'm from the south (orginally) and we don't call 'em Golphers. We
> lump all them furry little creatures together and they's all jest
> varmints to us.
>
> http://netsquirrel.com/crispen/word.html
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > Golphers = Way it is said in the Southern states
94047 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:24pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Chris,
Uhhhh, so was my reply ;)
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> Uhhhh, it was a joke to hide the fact that I misspelled Gopher...LOL
94048 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:34pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools. Thats
how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff CamoXJ--
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> My neighbor had his septic tanks fill up like that once. That must
> have been fun. How many hours of irrigation do you take on?
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > Was doing my flood irigation in the yard last night and all 45
> > minutes of water disappeared into the ground via 5 holes the size
> of
> > soda cans. It was amazing to see so much water funnel into the
> ground
> > and vanish. I started noticing that my basement window deal
started
> > filling up with water that is 8 feet below ground and the bottom
of
> > the wall on that side of the house in the basement has water
> damage.
> > I had a 5' section of steel rod that I could stick in these holes
> to
> > where my arm would actually go into the holes. Anyone with a
> backhoe
> > that could be borrowed to dig up my yard? I have to do something
> > before my house falls into this never ending sinkhole. This is
jeep
> > related to because now I cant complete my longarm setup and other
> > projects I had planned :o) TIA Jeff CamoXJ
94049 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:45pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the first
thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They may
not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good to know
one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken water/sewer
line, etc).
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
> to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
Thats
> how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
> possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
> to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
> roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
94050 From: oneblackjeep <1blackjeep@g...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 3:07pm
Subject: H2 Loses
Check out this link. Looks like the H2 loses the road challenge.
http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/Whoops.asp?I=9089
94051 From: oneblackjeep <1blackjeep@g...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 3:13pm
Subject: OT Re: H2 Loses
So I accidentally deleted the link. Sorry, try this one instead.
http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/Whoops.asp?I=9090
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "oneblackjeep" <1blackjeep@g...> wrote:
> Check out this link. Looks like the H2 loses the road challenge.
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/Whoops.asp?I=9089
94052 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 3:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
You've discovered Trujillo Caverns. Your house is going to be declared
a state park! =)
Tony
Jeff Trujillo wrote:
>we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
>to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools. Thats
>how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
>possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
>to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
>roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff CamoXJ--
>- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
>
>
>>My neighbor had his septic tanks fill up like that once. That must
>>have been fun. How many hours of irrigation do you take on?
>>
>>Linda
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Was doing my flood irigation in the yard last night and all 45
>>>minutes of water disappeared into the ground via 5 holes the size
>>>
>>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>soda cans. It was amazing to see so much water funnel into the
>>>
>>>
>>ground
>>
>>
>>>and vanish. I started noticing that my basement window deal
>>>
>>>
>started
>
>
>>>filling up with water that is 8 feet below ground and the bottom
>>>
>>>
>of
>
>
>>>the wall on that side of the house in the basement has water
>>>
>>>
>>damage.
>>
>>
>>>I had a 5' section of steel rod that I could stick in these holes
>>>
>>>
>>to
>>
>>
>>>where my arm would actually go into the holes. Anyone with a
>>>
>>>
>>backhoe
>>
>>
>>>that could be borrowed to dig up my yard? I have to do something
>>>before my house falls into this never ending sinkhole. This is
>>>
>>>
>jeep
>
>
>>>related to because now I cant complete my longarm setup and other
>>>projects I had planned :o) TIA Jeff CamoXJ
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
94053 From: b h <xjnation@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 3:58pm
Subject: Need 87 to 90 4.0 knock sensor
anyone have one lying around or a non runnning 4.0 you
could strip it off of for me, cant get one locally her
in flagstaff
Tia
Brian
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94054 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 4:53pm
Subject: [Tech] 1990 YJ - XJ to YJ gear swap
I found a set of 3.73 gears that I want to put in my 1990 jeep YJ, they are out of a 1993 grand cherokee. Both vehicles have a D30 and D35. Does anyone have any information for me about compatability? I don't see any reason why they won't be compatable but maybe someone out there has done a swap like this before and has some info they wouldn't mind sharing.
Thanx, Chad
chadchaney@j...
Chad Chaney
94055 From: rolled1000 <rolled1@c...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 4:59pm
Subject: Re: Hummer Challenge
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...> wrote:
> Seeing my net surfing and post started this whole thing and someone
> PLEASE email me with the location and date of this challenge? I
would
> very much like to participate/watch this
>
> Thanks
>
> E
You think he will want to put a stock hummer up against a stock jeep?
Terry
94056 From: <mrtnmac1111@a...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 0:15pm
Subject: Fwd: I WANT THIS BACK...... YOU'LL SEE WHY!!!dw
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94057 From: Mark <fordlover49@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 7:40pm
Subject: Re: Part 2: FW: Let's get it on..... Sharky Drive???
How's he supposed to know you meant gopher, when you spell it golpher?
-Mark
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> I said Golpher, you know the little furry thing Bill Murry went
> after in Caddy Shack. Man I think that roll over affected your
> brain...LOL
>
> Can't wait to find out what weekend this is going to be.
>
> Chris
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> > Hey now! Thats not fair...the golfer asked for it when he hit my
> > window with a golf ball. Besides that was in my truck.
> >
> > They just might.
> >
> > Sharky
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > That was you, I thought you ran into a golpher that caused all
> > that,
> > > you did that by yourself?????
> > >
> > > Then again as soon as we leave the air down spot the whole
thing
> > > might be over, the hummers might decide to give up while still
> on
> > > the main road...LOL
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
-
> ---
> > -
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> > > > Heck yeah! Sounds good to me :) , By the way...you did
see
> > > what I
> > > > did to mine right? LOL
> > > >
> > > > Sharky
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > > > I am ready and Sharky you can ride with me, heck might even
> let
> > > you
> > > > > drive...LOL Did I just say that???
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
-
> ---
> > -
> > > ---
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Damn it!!! Where is my Jeep when I need it the most....
> > > Sounds
> > > > > like
> > > > > > fun!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sharky
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter"
<wm7a@m...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > ditto, I'd love to see this! I think a lot of folks
> will
> > > want
> > > > > to
> > > > > > watch
> > > > > > > and/or participate. Maybe to many :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John DeRuiter, WM7A
> > > > > > > 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
> > > > > > > To: "AZ_VJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:19 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Part 2: FW: Let's get it on.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't want to participate but I'd love to watch and
> > take
> > > > > > pictures!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --------------
> > > > > > > > Bill - Jeeps Only
> > > > > > > > http://www.jeepsonly.com
> > > > > > > > A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for
> Jeeps
> > > only
> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------
-
> ---
> > -
> > > ---
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> > > > > > > > To: "AZ_VJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:27 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Part 2: FW: Let's get it on.....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is the reply to my comments.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Who wants to go?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --James
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: WilArsenault@a... [mailto:WilArsenault@a...]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:55 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Let's get it on.....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi James,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the insight, a lot of typos in my email.
> > > That's
> > > > > it
> > > > > > for auto
> > > > > > > > spell
> > > > > > > > > check.
> > > > > > > > > I will take the hummer statement up with my web
guy,
> > > never
> > > > > > noticed it
> > > > > > > > > before.
> > > > > > > > > But the more I think about it, a jeep/hummer duel
by
> be
> > > a
> > > > > great
> > > > > > > marketing
> > > > > > > > > angle for
> > > > > > > > > us. Let me know what you were thinking, terrain
wise
> > and
> > > > > where.
> > > > > > I think
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > stability of the hummer, can out climb a jeep
> without
> > > > > rolling
> > > > > > over!
> > > > > > > There
> > > > > > > > > ya go I said it!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On the TJ matter, typo I have a 71 FJ40. And
looking
> > for
> > > an
> > > > > > emergency
> > > > > > > > brake
> > > > > > > > > conversion kit. Manafree sells one, but there
> pricey.
> > > Hey
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > I can
> > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > the money I win from you to buy one, Just a thought.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Blessings,
> > > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > > XA
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
removed]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> > > > > > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
94058 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 7:53pm
Subject: [TR] Bumble Bee Creek - Sunday, November 9, 2003
Hello All,John Tallant is leading a Bumble Bee Creek trail run on Sunday, November 9, 2003.<br><br>When: Sometime Sunday
Where: Crown King Area
Rating: 4.5
Length: 1/2 day
CB Channel: 10
I know some of you are going up the back way to Crown King Sunday. I'm driving up Saturday morning, and camping overnight at Horsethief Basin. I'm looking to hook up with some members who might want to run this trail. If it is to difficult, we can run the Desoto Mine trail.
Bumble Bee Creek is a relatively short but very challenging trail. Lockers (front and rear) and at least 33's are highly recommended.<br>
<br>
The trail starts just south of Bumble Bee (FR684), and follows a class 2 trail for a ways, until you get down into the bottom of a canyon. You'll know it when you get there, by the large cottonwoods in it. Turn right up the canyon and keep an eye out for a wash on the right...this will take you to Bumble Bee Creek trail.<br>
<br>
The sandy wash turns into a narrow slot w/ a decent sized waterfall that you need to scramble up. If there's water in the creek, things will get slick. From there you just have to pick your way through the obstacles. The trail will eventually exit to the right and will take to back to the main trail.<br>
<br>
Remember to bring your Camera and Water.<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1085
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94059 From: alleyn59 <alleyn59@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 8:17pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
I'll have to go with Brian on this! Get your house inspected to see
if there is any structural damage before anything else!
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the first
> thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They may
> not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good to
know
> one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
> determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken water/sewer
> line, etc).
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you
tried
> > to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
> Thats
> > how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
> > possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i
have
> > to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that
the
> > roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
94060 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 8:43pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Hi Jeff,
We take 3 hours to irrigate an acre in north Mesa. It gets old about
half way through the season. Anyway, there was a report a few months
ago about a couple of really large abandoned septic tanks or dry wells
found in front of a house in central Scottsdale. They were leftover
from the farm that was there before the area was developed. Maybe
that's what you have, or maybe you got lucky and are the discoverer of
a new cave system in Az.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
> to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
Thats
> how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
> possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
> to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
> roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
CamoXJ--
> - In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > My neighbor had his septic tanks fill up like that once. That must
> > have been fun. How many hours of irrigation do you take on?
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
<jeff.trujillo@m...>
> > wrote:
> > > Was doing my flood irigation in the yard last night and all 45
> > > minutes of water disappeared into the ground via 5 holes the
size
> > of
> > > soda cans. It was amazing to see so much water funnel into the
> > ground
> > > and vanish. I started noticing that my basement window deal
> started
> > > filling up with water that is 8 feet below ground and the bottom
> of
> > > the wall on that side of the house in the basement has water
> > damage.
> > > I had a 5' section of steel rod that I could stick in these
holes
> > to
> > > where my arm would actually go into the holes. Anyone with a
> > backhoe
> > > that could be borrowed to dig up my yard? I have to do something
> > > before my house falls into this never ending sinkhole. This is
> jeep
> > > related to because now I cant complete my longarm setup and
other
> > > projects I had planned :o) TIA Jeff CamoXJ
94061 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 9:20pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Matt,
I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about flood
irrigation. You might, but most folks who have lived here for some
time don't have a clue either. My boss thinks its an excuse to get out
of work for a few hours every two weeks. Flood irrigation on
residential properties is kind of a holdover from when the property
was a farm or orchard. Most irrigated properties are 20 years or older
since it costs a lot for a developer to set up a ditch or pipe system
to handle a development. If you want a really green landscape here you
want flood irrigation. Our acre costs us about $80 a year to water.
Compare that to the price of keeping an acre irrigated with tap water
and you can see why it's worth it. Since most irrigated areas were old
farm land there's always a chance you'll run into an old pipe or
plumbing system though it's pretty rare, it is interesting when it
happens. The one thing about flood irrigation is that if you have less
than 2 acres (I think that's the bottom limit) you can't schedule
irrigation at your convenience. You sign up for it and get it when
they (SRP) schedule it. We usually spend half the summer getting ours
at from 1-4am or some other early morning hours. Residential
irrigation is scheduled every two weeks from April to October (approx)
and once a month from November to March. November is the annual canal
cleanout.
There are two canal systems in the Phoenix area. The CAP is a federal
water project which supplies city drinking water and irrigation
to large farms. SRP started as a cooperative for farmers and ranchers
in the valley. The large land owners still have the majority say in
how the irrigation is distributed and at what cost. SRP also supplies
electric power to the valley. The CAP carries water from the Colorado
River. The SRP canals feed off the Salt River.
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the first
> thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They may
> not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good to know
> one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
> determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken water/sewer
> line, etc).
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you
tried
> > to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
> Thats
> > how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
> > possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i
have
> > to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that
the
> > roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
94062 From: halfdoc11 <halfdoc@h...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 9:23pm
Subject: Re: Speedometer pickup point
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jose Lopez" <off-road@c...> wrote:
> Does anyone know were WJ's get the speed reading?, I know
> it's not like my ZJ that has the speedo gear in the tail section
> of the transfer case.
>
> Thanks
> Jose
The tone rings on rear axleshafts are used for speedo and ABS.
David
94063 From: <Hydrosense@a...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 4:23pm
Subject: MJ shackles and 2" spacers wanted
Does anyone have a pair MJ rear shackles, and or 2" coil spacers for xj for
sale/trade?
Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ
94064 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 10:24pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Actually, we had a sinkhole like that in our front yard in Maryvale,
when I was growing up. Our house was located next to old Fire Station
#25, south of Indian School Road on 59th Avenue. There was a hole in
the front yard and one day while cutting the lawn I noticed that snails,
by God, were coming up out of the hole. So I took the garden hose, and
out of curiosity turned it on and put it down the hole and left it on
overnight. I never did figure out where all that water went, because
the next day it still hadn't filled up.
The land that Maryvale is built on all used to be agricultural land, so
who knows, maybe there was an old underground irrigation pipe or septic
tank under our house.
Tony
Linda wrote:
>Hi Jeff,
>
>We take 3 hours to irrigate an acre in north Mesa. It gets old about
>half way through the season. Anyway, there was a report a few months
>ago about a couple of really large abandoned septic tanks or dry wells
>found in front of a house in central Scottsdale. They were leftover
>from the farm that was there before the area was developed. Maybe
>that's what you have, or maybe you got lucky and are the discoverer of
>a new cave system in Az.
>
>Linda
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
>>to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
>>
>>
>Thats
>
>
>>how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
>>possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
>>to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
>>roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
>>
>>
>CamoXJ--
>
>
>>- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My neighbor had his septic tanks fill up like that once. That must
>>>have been fun. How many hours of irrigation do you take on?
>>>
>>>Linda
>>>
>>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
>>>
>>>
><jeff.trujillo@m...>
>
>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Was doing my flood irigation in the yard last night and all 45
>>>>minutes of water disappeared into the ground via 5 holes the
>>>>
>>>>
>size
>
>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>soda cans. It was amazing to see so much water funnel into the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>ground
>>>
>>>
>>>>and vanish. I started noticing that my basement window deal
>>>>
>>>>
>>started
>>
>>
>>>>filling up with water that is 8 feet below ground and the bottom
>>>>
>>>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>>the wall on that side of the house in the basement has water
>>>>
>>>>
>>>damage.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I had a 5' section of steel rod that I could stick in these
>>>>
>>>>
>holes
>
>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>where my arm would actually go into the holes. Anyone with a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>backhoe
>>>
>>>
>>>>that could be borrowed to dig up my yard? I have to do something
>>>>before my house falls into this never ending sinkhole. This is
>>>>
>>>>
>>jeep
>>
>>
>>>>related to because now I cant complete my longarm setup and
>>>>
>>>>
>other
>
>
>>>>projects I had planned :o) TIA Jeff CamoXJ
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
94065 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 10:31pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Yeah, it's all new to me. Up in Oregon, they channel the melting
snowcaps into reservoirs and typically end up with more water than
they need and have to schedule controlled floods to drain the
reservoirs into the Columbia River. Maybe a water pipeline from
Oregon to Arizona is in order :)
I suppose for my small housing development lot irrigation is a non-
issue. A sprinkler system to water the two planned patches of grass
(front/back) and drip lines for the trees/bushes (it's all dirt
right now) should suffice.
I hope everything turns out OK for Jeff and he finds out it's just a
section of pipe or an old septic tank or such.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
flood
> irrigation.
94066 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 5:49am
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Hmm.. That's a thought. We are in a severe drought in the desert
southwest. Estimates are that it might last 20 years or so. Something
like that probably drove the Hohokams away a few hundred years ago.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> Yeah, it's all new to me. Up in Oregon, they channel the melting
> snowcaps into reservoirs and typically end up with more water than
> they need and have to schedule controlled floods to drain the
> reservoirs into the Columbia River. Maybe a water pipeline from
> Oregon to Arizona is in order :)
>
> I suppose for my small housing development lot irrigation is a non-
> issue. A sprinkler system to water the two planned patches of grass
> (front/back) and drip lines for the trees/bushes (it's all dirt
> right now) should suffice.
>
> I hope everything turns out OK for Jeff and he finds out it's just
a
> section of pipe or an old septic tank or such.
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
> flood
> > irrigation.
94067 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 6:42am
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
The bad thing is that "modern" man is too stupid to take a queue from
mother nature and leave. LOL
Dan
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Hmm.. That's a thought. We are in a severe drought in the desert
> southwest. Estimates are that it might last 20 years or so.
Something
> like that probably drove the Hohokams away a few hundred years
ago.
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> > Yeah, it's all new to me. Up in Oregon, they channel the melting
> > snowcaps into reservoirs and typically end up with more water
than
> > they need and have to schedule controlled floods to drain the
> > reservoirs into the Columbia River. Maybe a water pipeline from
> > Oregon to Arizona is in order :)
> >
> > I suppose for my small housing development lot irrigation is a
non-
> > issue. A sprinkler system to water the two planned patches of
grass
> > (front/back) and drip lines for the trees/bushes (it's all dirt
> > right now) should suffice.
> >
> > I hope everything turns out OK for Jeff and he finds out it's
just
> a
> > section of pipe or an old septic tank or such.
> >
> > Matt
> > K7MTO
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
> > flood
> > > irrigation.
94068 From: MIke <icehot1@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 7:01am
Subject: OT: Rick Beer, saw your name..
Hey Rick just got my HOG 83 newsletter and read an article by a guy
with your name!!! We should get together and go for a ride, bikes
that is. If it's not you, what arre the chances of 2 Rick Beers out
there.
Later, Mike W.
94044 From: Randy Davis <luvrocks@c...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 1:32pm
Subject: Re: [OT] T-MAXX SUNDAY????
hay flexy i use to take mine(when i had it) out by the lake off table mesa
there is some cool dirt jumps and dips.i all so have a 6' rocket the son and
i have been building that we would like to shoot off.i'm making a launch pad
tomorrow it uses F23-4FJ motors the ones that look like a stick of TNT!!!
Randy Davis
Arizona Rock Rats
Land Use Chairman
AZVJC!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Daro" <flexyxj98@m...>
To: <4x4xfun1@c...>; <arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com>;
<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; <SPEEDAUTO@a...>; <mikdiamon@c...>;
<rockstomp1@y...>; <mikebeach2002@y...>;
<Rockrats@yahoogroups.com>; <oletoyo1127@a...>
Cc: <badazxj@h...>
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:35 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] [OT] T-MAXX SUNDAY????
> Ok, I know alot of people here have a T-MAXX. I just got done getting the
> suspension set up for my long arm kit, Got my new piston/sleeve ported and
> installed. I was hoping to go out and do some 'MAXXIN with some people. I
> usually go to the riverbottom @ camelback, but I think its closed, so I am
> open for a spot with some sand, jumps, and dirt. I was thinking Sun morn
> around 10am till ?? If anyone is interested, please E-mail me off list @
> flexyxj98@m... Please let me know your crystal color (if you have a
> T-MAXX) So we dont all cross freq. I do have some others for anyone who
> might have the same color. LETS GO MAXXIN!!!! I need to justify the gobs
> of $$$$ sitting here that IS NOT JEEP $$$...scarey.
>
>
> FlexyXJ
>
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94045 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 1:55pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
I'm from the south (orginally) and we don't call 'em Golphers. We
lump all them furry little creatures together and they's all jest
varmints to us.
http://netsquirrel.com/crispen/word.html
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> Golphers = Way it is said in the Southern states
94046 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:12pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Matt,
Uhhhh, it was a joke to hide the fact that I misspelled Gopher...LOL
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> I'm from the south (orginally) and we don't call 'em Golphers. We
> lump all them furry little creatures together and they's all jest
> varmints to us.
>
> http://netsquirrel.com/crispen/word.html
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > Golphers = Way it is said in the Southern states
94047 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:24pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Chris,
Uhhhh, so was my reply ;)
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> Uhhhh, it was a joke to hide the fact that I misspelled Gopher...LOL
94048 From: Jeff Trujillo <jeff.trujillo@m...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:34pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools. Thats
how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff CamoXJ--
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> My neighbor had his septic tanks fill up like that once. That must
> have been fun. How many hours of irrigation do you take on?
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > Was doing my flood irigation in the yard last night and all 45
> > minutes of water disappeared into the ground via 5 holes the size
> of
> > soda cans. It was amazing to see so much water funnel into the
> ground
> > and vanish. I started noticing that my basement window deal
started
> > filling up with water that is 8 feet below ground and the bottom
of
> > the wall on that side of the house in the basement has water
> damage.
> > I had a 5' section of steel rod that I could stick in these holes
> to
> > where my arm would actually go into the holes. Anyone with a
> backhoe
> > that could be borrowed to dig up my yard? I have to do something
> > before my house falls into this never ending sinkhole. This is
jeep
> > related to because now I cant complete my longarm setup and other
> > projects I had planned :o) TIA Jeff CamoXJ
94049 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 2:45pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the first
thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They may
not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good to know
one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken water/sewer
line, etc).
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
> to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
Thats
> how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
> possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
> to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
> roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
94050 From: oneblackjeep <1blackjeep@g...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 3:07pm
Subject: H2 Loses
Check out this link. Looks like the H2 loses the road challenge.
http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/Whoops.asp?I=9089
94051 From: oneblackjeep <1blackjeep@g...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 3:13pm
Subject: OT Re: H2 Loses
So I accidentally deleted the link. Sorry, try this one instead.
http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/Whoops.asp?I=9090
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "oneblackjeep" <1blackjeep@g...> wrote:
> Check out this link. Looks like the H2 loses the road challenge.
>
> http://www.azvjc.org/Gallery/Whoops.asp?I=9089
94052 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 3:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
You've discovered Trujillo Caverns. Your house is going to be declared
a state park! =)
Tony
Jeff Trujillo wrote:
>we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
>to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools. Thats
>how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
>possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
>to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
>roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff CamoXJ--
>- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
>
>
>>My neighbor had his septic tanks fill up like that once. That must
>>have been fun. How many hours of irrigation do you take on?
>>
>>Linda
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Was doing my flood irigation in the yard last night and all 45
>>>minutes of water disappeared into the ground via 5 holes the size
>>>
>>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>soda cans. It was amazing to see so much water funnel into the
>>>
>>>
>>ground
>>
>>
>>>and vanish. I started noticing that my basement window deal
>>>
>>>
>started
>
>
>>>filling up with water that is 8 feet below ground and the bottom
>>>
>>>
>of
>
>
>>>the wall on that side of the house in the basement has water
>>>
>>>
>>damage.
>>
>>
>>>I had a 5' section of steel rod that I could stick in these holes
>>>
>>>
>>to
>>
>>
>>>where my arm would actually go into the holes. Anyone with a
>>>
>>>
>>backhoe
>>
>>
>>>that could be borrowed to dig up my yard? I have to do something
>>>before my house falls into this never ending sinkhole. This is
>>>
>>>
>jeep
>
>
>>>related to because now I cant complete my longarm setup and other
>>>projects I had planned :o) TIA Jeff CamoXJ
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
94053 From: b h <xjnation@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 3:58pm
Subject: Need 87 to 90 4.0 knock sensor
anyone have one lying around or a non runnning 4.0 you
could strip it off of for me, cant get one locally her
in flagstaff
Tia
Brian
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94054 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 4:53pm
Subject: [Tech] 1990 YJ - XJ to YJ gear swap
I found a set of 3.73 gears that I want to put in my 1990 jeep YJ, they are out of a 1993 grand cherokee. Both vehicles have a D30 and D35. Does anyone have any information for me about compatability? I don't see any reason why they won't be compatable but maybe someone out there has done a swap like this before and has some info they wouldn't mind sharing.
Thanx, Chad
chadchaney@j...
Chad Chaney
94055 From: rolled1000 <rolled1@c...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 4:59pm
Subject: Re: Hummer Challenge
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...> wrote:
> Seeing my net surfing and post started this whole thing and someone
> PLEASE email me with the location and date of this challenge? I
would
> very much like to participate/watch this
>
> Thanks
>
> E
You think he will want to put a stock hummer up against a stock jeep?
Terry
94056 From: <mrtnmac1111@a...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 0:15pm
Subject: Fwd: I WANT THIS BACK...... YOU'LL SEE WHY!!!dw
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
94057 From: Mark <fordlover49@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 7:40pm
Subject: Re: Part 2: FW: Let's get it on..... Sharky Drive???
How's he supposed to know you meant gopher, when you spell it golpher?
-Mark
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> I said Golpher, you know the little furry thing Bill Murry went
> after in Caddy Shack. Man I think that roll over affected your
> brain...LOL
>
> Can't wait to find out what weekend this is going to be.
>
> Chris
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
-
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> > Hey now! Thats not fair...the golfer asked for it when he hit my
> > window with a golf ball. Besides that was in my truck.
> >
> > They just might.
> >
> > Sharky
> >
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > That was you, I thought you ran into a golpher that caused all
> > that,
> > > you did that by yourself?????
> > >
> > > Then again as soon as we leave the air down spot the whole
thing
> > > might be over, the hummers might decide to give up while still
> on
> > > the main road...LOL
> > >
> > > Chris
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
-
> ---
> > -
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> > > > Heck yeah! Sounds good to me :) , By the way...you did
see
> > > what I
> > > > did to mine right? LOL
> > > >
> > > > Sharky
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:
> > > > > I am ready and Sharky you can ride with me, heck might even
> let
> > > you
> > > > > drive...LOL Did I just say that???
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris
> > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------
-
> ---
> > -
> > > ---
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sharky" <sharxjeep@c...>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Damn it!!! Where is my Jeep when I need it the most....
> > > Sounds
> > > > > like
> > > > > > fun!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sharky
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter"
<wm7a@m...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > ditto, I'd love to see this! I think a lot of folks
> will
> > > want
> > > > > to
> > > > > > watch
> > > > > > > and/or participate. Maybe to many :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > John DeRuiter, WM7A
> > > > > > > 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
> > > > > > > To: "AZ_VJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 4:19 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Part 2: FW: Let's get it on.....
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't want to participate but I'd love to watch and
> > take
> > > > > > pictures!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --------------
> > > > > > > > Bill - Jeeps Only
> > > > > > > > http://www.jeepsonly.com
> > > > > > > > A Yahoo-style directory/search engine of links for
> Jeeps
> > > only
> > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------
-
> ---
> > -
> > > ---
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> > > > > > > > To: "AZ_VJC" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 3:27 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [az_vjc] Part 2: FW: Let's get it on.....
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > This is the reply to my comments.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Who wants to go?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --James
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > From: WilArsenault@a... [mailto:WilArsenault@a...]
> > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:55 AM
> > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Let's get it on.....
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi James,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the insight, a lot of typos in my email.
> > > That's
> > > > > it
> > > > > > for auto
> > > > > > > > spell
> > > > > > > > > check.
> > > > > > > > > I will take the hummer statement up with my web
guy,
> > > never
> > > > > > noticed it
> > > > > > > > > before.
> > > > > > > > > But the more I think about it, a jeep/hummer duel
by
> be
> > > a
> > > > > great
> > > > > > > marketing
> > > > > > > > > angle for
> > > > > > > > > us. Let me know what you were thinking, terrain
wise
> > and
> > > > > where.
> > > > > > I think
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > stability of the hummer, can out climb a jeep
> without
> > > > > rolling
> > > > > > over!
> > > > > > > There
> > > > > > > > > ya go I said it!
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On the TJ matter, typo I have a 71 FJ40. And
looking
> > for
> > > an
> > > > > > emergency
> > > > > > > > brake
> > > > > > > > > conversion kit. Manafree sells one, but there
> pricey.
> > > Hey
> > > > > maybe
> > > > > > I can
> > > > > > > use
> > > > > > > > > the money I win from you to buy one, Just a thought.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Blessings,
> > > > > > > > > Bill
> > > > > > > > > XA
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been
removed]
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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94058 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 7:53pm
Subject: [TR] Bumble Bee Creek - Sunday, November 9, 2003
Hello All,John Tallant is leading a Bumble Bee Creek trail run on Sunday, November 9, 2003.<br><br>When: Sometime Sunday
Where: Crown King Area
Rating: 4.5
Length: 1/2 day
CB Channel: 10
I know some of you are going up the back way to Crown King Sunday. I'm driving up Saturday morning, and camping overnight at Horsethief Basin. I'm looking to hook up with some members who might want to run this trail. If it is to difficult, we can run the Desoto Mine trail.
Bumble Bee Creek is a relatively short but very challenging trail. Lockers (front and rear) and at least 33's are highly recommended.<br>
<br>
The trail starts just south of Bumble Bee (FR684), and follows a class 2 trail for a ways, until you get down into the bottom of a canyon. You'll know it when you get there, by the large cottonwoods in it. Turn right up the canyon and keep an eye out for a wash on the right...this will take you to Bumble Bee Creek trail.<br>
<br>
The sandy wash turns into a narrow slot w/ a decent sized waterfall that you need to scramble up. If there's water in the creek, things will get slick. From there you just have to pick your way through the obstacles. The trail will eventually exit to the right and will take to back to the main trail.<br>
<br>
Remember to bring your Camera and Water.<br>
<br>
Enjoy and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=1085
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
94059 From: alleyn59 <alleyn59@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 8:17pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
I'll have to go with Brian on this! Get your house inspected to see
if there is any structural damage before anything else!
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the first
> thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They may
> not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good to
know
> one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
> determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken water/sewer
> line, etc).
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you
tried
> > to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
> Thats
> > how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
> > possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i
have
> > to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that
the
> > roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
94060 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 8:43pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Hi Jeff,
We take 3 hours to irrigate an acre in north Mesa. It gets old about
half way through the season. Anyway, there was a report a few months
ago about a couple of really large abandoned septic tanks or dry wells
found in front of a house in central Scottsdale. They were leftover
from the farm that was there before the area was developed. Maybe
that's what you have, or maybe you got lucky and are the discoverer of
a new cave system in Az.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
wrote:
> we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
> to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
Thats
> how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
> possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
> to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
> roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
CamoXJ--
> - In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > My neighbor had his septic tanks fill up like that once. That must
> > have been fun. How many hours of irrigation do you take on?
> >
> > Linda
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
<jeff.trujillo@m...>
> > wrote:
> > > Was doing my flood irigation in the yard last night and all 45
> > > minutes of water disappeared into the ground via 5 holes the
size
> > of
> > > soda cans. It was amazing to see so much water funnel into the
> > ground
> > > and vanish. I started noticing that my basement window deal
> started
> > > filling up with water that is 8 feet below ground and the bottom
> of
> > > the wall on that side of the house in the basement has water
> > damage.
> > > I had a 5' section of steel rod that I could stick in these
holes
> > to
> > > where my arm would actually go into the holes. Anyone with a
> > backhoe
> > > that could be borrowed to dig up my yard? I have to do something
> > > before my house falls into this never ending sinkhole. This is
> jeep
> > > related to because now I cant complete my longarm setup and
other
> > > projects I had planned :o) TIA Jeff CamoXJ
94061 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 9:20pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Matt,
I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about flood
irrigation. You might, but most folks who have lived here for some
time don't have a clue either. My boss thinks its an excuse to get out
of work for a few hours every two weeks. Flood irrigation on
residential properties is kind of a holdover from when the property
was a farm or orchard. Most irrigated properties are 20 years or older
since it costs a lot for a developer to set up a ditch or pipe system
to handle a development. If you want a really green landscape here you
want flood irrigation. Our acre costs us about $80 a year to water.
Compare that to the price of keeping an acre irrigated with tap water
and you can see why it's worth it. Since most irrigated areas were old
farm land there's always a chance you'll run into an old pipe or
plumbing system though it's pretty rare, it is interesting when it
happens. The one thing about flood irrigation is that if you have less
than 2 acres (I think that's the bottom limit) you can't schedule
irrigation at your convenience. You sign up for it and get it when
they (SRP) schedule it. We usually spend half the summer getting ours
at from 1-4am or some other early morning hours. Residential
irrigation is scheduled every two weeks from April to October (approx)
and once a month from November to March. November is the annual canal
cleanout.
There are two canal systems in the Phoenix area. The CAP is a federal
water project which supplies city drinking water and irrigation
to large farms. SRP started as a cooperative for farmers and ranchers
in the valley. The large land owners still have the majority say in
how the irrigation is distributed and at what cost. SRP also supplies
electric power to the valley. The CAP carries water from the Colorado
River. The SRP canals feed off the Salt River.
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> Check out http://www.sinkhole.org/do.htm - sounds like the first
> thing to do is contact your homeowners insurance company. They may
> not cover this if it's naturally caused (still would be good to know
> one way or the other), but they might know who to contact to
> determine if the cause is natural or man made (broken water/sewer
> line, etc).
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
> wrote:
> > we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you
tried
> > to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
> Thats
> > how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
> > possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i
have
> > to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that
the
> > roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
94062 From: halfdoc11 <halfdoc@h...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 9:23pm
Subject: Re: Speedometer pickup point
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jose Lopez" <off-road@c...> wrote:
> Does anyone know were WJ's get the speed reading?, I know
> it's not like my ZJ that has the speedo gear in the tail section
> of the transfer case.
>
> Thanks
> Jose
The tone rings on rear axleshafts are used for speedo and ABS.
David
94063 From: <Hydrosense@a...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 4:23pm
Subject: MJ shackles and 2" spacers wanted
Does anyone have a pair MJ rear shackles, and or 2" coil spacers for xj for
sale/trade?
Rob Bolin Y2K-XJ
94064 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 10:24pm
Subject: Re: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Actually, we had a sinkhole like that in our front yard in Maryvale,
when I was growing up. Our house was located next to old Fire Station
#25, south of Indian School Road on 59th Avenue. There was a hole in
the front yard and one day while cutting the lawn I noticed that snails,
by God, were coming up out of the hole. So I took the garden hose, and
out of curiosity turned it on and put it down the hole and left it on
overnight. I never did figure out where all that water went, because
the next day it still hadn't filled up.
The land that Maryvale is built on all used to be agricultural land, so
who knows, maybe there was an old underground irrigation pipe or septic
tank under our house.
Tony
Linda wrote:
>Hi Jeff,
>
>We take 3 hours to irrigate an acre in north Mesa. It gets old about
>half way through the season. Anyway, there was a report a few months
>ago about a couple of really large abandoned septic tanks or dry wells
>found in front of a house in central Scottsdale. They were leftover
>from the farm that was there before the area was developed. Maybe
>that's what you have, or maybe you got lucky and are the discoverer of
>a new cave system in Az.
>
>Linda
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo" <jeff.trujillo@m...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>we take 45 minutes and that actually is alot of water. If you tried
>>to get a mental pic you could fill up about 1-2 swimming pools.
>>
>>
>Thats
>
>
>>how much water disapeared into the ground next to my house or
>>possibly under it. Kinda scary, looking into borrowing or if i have
>>to rent a backhoe and digging but afraid to get to a point that the
>>roof of the cavern caves in and we all go for a swim LOL Jeff
>>
>>
>CamoXJ--
>
>
>>- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My neighbor had his septic tanks fill up like that once. That must
>>>have been fun. How many hours of irrigation do you take on?
>>>
>>>Linda
>>>
>>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeff Trujillo"
>>>
>>>
><jeff.trujillo@m...>
>
>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Was doing my flood irigation in the yard last night and all 45
>>>>minutes of water disappeared into the ground via 5 holes the
>>>>
>>>>
>size
>
>
>>>of
>>>
>>>
>>>>soda cans. It was amazing to see so much water funnel into the
>>>>
>>>>
>>>ground
>>>
>>>
>>>>and vanish. I started noticing that my basement window deal
>>>>
>>>>
>>started
>>
>>
>>>>filling up with water that is 8 feet below ground and the bottom
>>>>
>>>>
>>of
>>
>>
>>>>the wall on that side of the house in the basement has water
>>>>
>>>>
>>>damage.
>>>
>>>
>>>>I had a 5' section of steel rod that I could stick in these
>>>>
>>>>
>holes
>
>
>>>to
>>>
>>>
>>>>where my arm would actually go into the holes. Anyone with a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>backhoe
>>>
>>>
>>>>that could be borrowed to dig up my yard? I have to do something
>>>>before my house falls into this never ending sinkhole. This is
>>>>
>>>>
>>jeep
>>
>>
>>>>related to because now I cant complete my longarm setup and
>>>>
>>>>
>other
>
>
>>>>projects I had planned :o) TIA Jeff CamoXJ
>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
94065 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Nov 6, 2003 10:31pm
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Yeah, it's all new to me. Up in Oregon, they channel the melting
snowcaps into reservoirs and typically end up with more water than
they need and have to schedule controlled floods to drain the
reservoirs into the Columbia River. Maybe a water pipeline from
Oregon to Arizona is in order :)
I suppose for my small housing development lot irrigation is a non-
issue. A sprinkler system to water the two planned patches of grass
(front/back) and drip lines for the trees/bushes (it's all dirt
right now) should suffice.
I hope everything turns out OK for Jeff and he finds out it's just a
section of pipe or an old septic tank or such.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
flood
> irrigation.
94066 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 5:49am
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
Hmm.. That's a thought. We are in a severe drought in the desert
southwest. Estimates are that it might last 20 years or so. Something
like that probably drove the Hohokams away a few hundred years ago.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> Yeah, it's all new to me. Up in Oregon, they channel the melting
> snowcaps into reservoirs and typically end up with more water than
> they need and have to schedule controlled floods to drain the
> reservoirs into the Columbia River. Maybe a water pipeline from
> Oregon to Arizona is in order :)
>
> I suppose for my small housing development lot irrigation is a non-
> issue. A sprinkler system to water the two planned patches of grass
> (front/back) and drip lines for the trees/bushes (it's all dirt
> right now) should suffice.
>
> I hope everything turns out OK for Jeff and he finds out it's just
a
> section of pipe or an old septic tank or such.
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
> flood
> > irrigation.
94067 From: Dan Dennis <dannpegg@c...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 6:42am
Subject: Re: OT: anyone with sinkhole experience?
The bad thing is that "modern" man is too stupid to take a queue from
mother nature and leave. LOL
Dan
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> Hmm.. That's a thought. We are in a severe drought in the desert
> southwest. Estimates are that it might last 20 years or so.
Something
> like that probably drove the Hohokams away a few hundred years
ago.
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...> wrote:
> > Yeah, it's all new to me. Up in Oregon, they channel the melting
> > snowcaps into reservoirs and typically end up with more water
than
> > they need and have to schedule controlled floods to drain the
> > reservoirs into the Columbia River. Maybe a water pipeline from
> > Oregon to Arizona is in order :)
> >
> > I suppose for my small housing development lot irrigation is a
non-
> > issue. A sprinkler system to water the two planned patches of
grass
> > (front/back) and drip lines for the trees/bushes (it's all dirt
> > right now) should suffice.
> >
> > I hope everything turns out OK for Jeff and he finds out it's
just
> a
> > section of pipe or an old septic tank or such.
> >
> > Matt
> > K7MTO
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Linda" <minihummer@w...> wrote:
> > > Matt,
> > >
> > > I guess as a newcomer to Az you probably don't know much about
> > flood
> > > irrigation.
94068 From: MIke <icehot1@m...>
Date: Fri Nov 7, 2003 7:01am
Subject: OT: Rick Beer, saw your name..
Hey Rick just got my HOG 83 newsletter and read an article by a guy
with your name!!! We should get together and go for a ride, bikes
that is. If it's not you, what arre the chances of 2 Rick Beers out
there.
Later, Mike W.