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93894 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:48pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
would
pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
>Cannot
>Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
>
>Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
>Judgement day or Predator??
>
>http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93895 From: Dustin McBroom <dusmcbr0@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:49pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
damn, i doubt they could make it through half of the trails that
many jeeps travel!
-- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe-CJ7" <Joe-CJ7@j...> wrote:
> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats
it... I
> would
> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
>
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
> >
> >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
> >
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93896 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:45pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC rode
with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning the
ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours through
Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs nor
drive to the Cabin.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> would
> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
>
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
> >
> >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
> >
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93897 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Gee thanks Sandee for shooting me down.
I still think we should challenge them.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:46 PM
To: Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC
rode
with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
the
ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
through
Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs
nor
drive to the Cabin.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> would
> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
>
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
> >
> >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
> >
> >
> >
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93898 From: Kevin & Kelly <kkhop@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:56pm
Subject: Re: Sharky Shirts?
Thank You Frank, Now for the fun part how to
get a hold of Smitty???
Kelly--
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...> wrote:
>
>
> its just my way of sayin thanks. I woulda been stuck without you
guys. :)
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Kevin & Kelly" <kkhop@j...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sharky Shirts?
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:13:41 -0000
> >
> >
> >Well Thank You Frank, but really thats not necessary,
> >I really enjoy helping out.
> >Kelly
> >
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
> >wrote:
> > > I want to buy you both shirts for all the help ya did. Also...at
> >least 6
> > > other people too!
> > >
> > > Frank
> > > http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> > > http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Kevin & Kelly" <kkhop@j...>
> > > >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sharky Shirts?
> > > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:59:41 -0000
> > > >
> > > >I would like to get my shirts too.
> > > >
> > > >Kelly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona"
<BadAZXJ@m...>
> > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any out there for sale? I sent an email to smitty
but
> >he
> > > >must be
> > > > > busy or something.
> > > > > I want to buy one for all the key people that helped me
organize
> > > >the sharky
> > > > > run and bbq.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Frank
> > > > > http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
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93899 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:13pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
So I wonder what the price is for this Extreme Tour?
Hell I will take a passenger in my seat if the price is right!
The price by the way would be to support the OHV community.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: aztjdriver [mailto:aztjdriver@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
Cannot
Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
Judgement day or Predator??
http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93900 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:18pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Has anyone sent them an invite? Then again they may be stating that
soley on the principle that they have permits to run in areas that
we are not aloud unless we also get the permits. May have or more
like should be directed that way, otherwise let the games
begin...ROFLMAO<grinning from East Valley to West Valley>
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
-
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...> wrote:
> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> Judgement day or Predator??
>
> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
93901 From: ldstruckn <ldstruckn@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:20pm
Subject: what fluid and a tranny mount
I have an 82 cj7 with a T4(i think) and the book says to put ATF in
it yet when i looked inside the tranny I saw gear lube(regular oil),
what the crap is this?
Also what would a blown tranny mount look like on this jeep; i need
to know because there is a nocking sound and the shifters bounce
around way to much.
93902 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:26pm
Subject: RE: what fluid and a tranny mount
I do not know about the fluid but as far as I know the tranny fluid
should not look like gear oil.
I had bad tranny mounts in my 85 CJ7 and they knocked all of the time
until I replaced them.
Also check your transfer mount bolts make sure they are secure. Mine
get loose sometimes and they make a scary noise when I put stress on
them (you know when I go over the speed bumps in the streets, yeah
right). Really check that out also.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: ldstruckn [mailto:ldstruckn@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:20 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] what fluid and a tranny mount
I have an 82 cj7 with a T4(i think) and the book says to put ATF in
it yet when i looked inside the tranny I saw gear lube(regular oil),
what the crap is this?
Also what would a blown tranny mount look like on this jeep; i need
to know because there is a nocking sound and the shifters bounce
around way to much.
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93903 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:27pm
Subject: Re: Parker Desert Splash
I'll be there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Reid" <mikdiamon@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:37 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Parker Desert Splash
> Anyone have any info on this event?
>
> I talked to someone this weekend who is going but I can't remember
> who it was. Who's going?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
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93904 From: Janice Allison <jallison@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes me
wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for the
mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
Jan
98 TJ - Road Hazard
At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
>Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC rode
>with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning the
>ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
>problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours through
>Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs nor
>drive to the Cabin.
>
>Sandee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> > Jeep Cannot
> >
> >
> > Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> > Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> >
> > Joe Kearney
> > Joe-CJ7@J...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> > To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> > Jeep Cannot
> >
> > how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> > would
> > pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank
> > http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> > http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> > >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
> > >Cannot
> > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> > >
> > >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> > >Judgement day or Predator??
> > >
> > >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
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93905 From: kristi <jeepgirl@l...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:27pm
Subject: RE: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
We forward the thread to them.
Kristi/Jason
Please visit: www.luminousarizona.com - Fine photographic art prints
of the Arizona landscape or please donate to the Jason A. Kennedy
Photography Fund.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:18 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
Has anyone sent them an invite? Then again they may be stating that
soley on the principle that they have permits to run in areas that
we are not aloud unless we also get the permits. May have or more
like should be directed that way, otherwise let the games
begin...ROFLMAO<grinning from East Valley to West Valley>
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...> wrote:
> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> Judgement day or Predator??
>
> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93906 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:35pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
That would be a good sight to see.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Janice Allison [mailto:jallison@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Sandee McCullen; Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
me
wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
the
mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
Jan
98 TJ - Road Hazard
At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
>Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC
rode
>with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
the
>ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
>problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
through
>Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs
nor
>drive to the Cabin.
>
>Sandee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
> > Jeep Cannot
> >
> >
> > Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> > Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> >
> > Joe Kearney
> > Joe-CJ7@J...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> > To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
> > Jeep Cannot
> >
> > how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it...
I
> > would
> > pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank
> > http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> > http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> > >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep
> > >Cannot
> > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> > >
> > >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> > >Judgement day or Predator??
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93907 From: Bill LaBrie <mrbuttz@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Ok, carrying a rack of TOW missles or an entire field hospital, maybe. Two
people and fishing rods? No way.
What a crock of s$&$.
>From: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
>To: aztjdriver@y..., az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
>Cannot
>Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 12:58:28 -0700
>
>how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I would
>pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
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>
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> >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
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93908 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:38pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
I think, for the average tourist, a 4x4 trip in a Hummer would be a
heck of a lot more comfortable than a SWB Jeep. I think that's what
this company is trying to say. Besides, I would rather see them on an
easy, scenic 4x4 trail than any of the tougher trails. Anyone who has
witnessed the 'Hummer tour buses' out at the Coves at Saquaro Lake
would understand what I mean.
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...> wrote:
> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> Judgement day or Predator??
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> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
93909 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:39pm
Subject: Re: transfercase
Dustin,
What kind of Jeep? Automatic or standard transmission? Are you standing
still or rolling when you shift?
Dave
--- Dustin McBroom <dusmcbr0@y...> wrote:
> when i shift from 4L into 4H it makes an extremely loud bang! like
> something is just dropping. anyone know what this is?
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93910 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:34pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
FYI: The "Luge" is the trail that drops into the 8' deep washout.........
the "steep hill" is the by-pass..... I've seen Hummers almost
everywhere.......... including "stuck in the "V" rock on Upper Woodpecker
years ago but I truly don't think a Hummer (original or H2) has ever done
the Luge........... most certainly not without massive body damage. There
aren't many vehicles of any caliber doing the "Luge" lately.............
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janice Allison [mailto:jallison@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:25 PM
> To: Sandee McCullen; Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes me
> wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
>
> Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for the
> mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
>
> Jan
> 98 TJ - Road Hazard
>
>
> At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
> >Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP
> and RAC rode
> >with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning the
> >ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
> >problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial
> tours through
> >Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
> springs nor
> >drive to the Cabin.
> >
> >Sandee
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> > > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> > > Jeep Cannot
> > >
> > >
> > > Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> > > Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> > >
> > > Joe Kearney
> > > Joe-CJ7@J...
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> > > To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> > > Jeep Cannot
> > >
> > > how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> > > would
> > > pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank
> > > http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> > > http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> > > >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
> Where Jeep
> > > >Cannot
> > > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> > > >Judgement day or Predator??
> > > >
> > > >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93911 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:42pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
The old Luge is impassible now. Too washed out now even for the
buggies. The hill he was referring to is called the Sluice. I have been
down it several times.
Chris
On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Janice Allison wrote:
> I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
> me
> wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
>
> Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
> the
> mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
>
> Jan
> 98 TJ - Road Hazard
>
>
> At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
>> Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and
>> RAC rode
>> with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
>> the
>> ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
>> problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
>> through
>> Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
>> springs nor
>> drive to the Cabin.
>>
>> Sandee
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
>>> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
>>> Jeep Cannot
>>>
>>>
>>> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
>>> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>>>
>>> Joe Kearney
>>> Joe-CJ7@J...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
>>> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
>>> Jeep Cannot
>>>
>>> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
>>> would
>>> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank
>>> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
>>> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
>>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
>>>> Jeep
>>>> Cannot
>>>> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
>>>>
>>>> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
>>>> Judgement day or Predator??
>>>>
>>>> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93912 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:44pm
Subject: RE: what fluid and a tranny mount
You can usually check a transimssion mount by putting a floor jack under
the transmission and jacking it up. If the tranny moves relative to the
crossmember, the mount's busted.
Of course, that assumes you can *get* to the tranny to put a jack under
it. If you have a one-piece crossmember / skid plate, that's another
story.
But if your shifters are moving around whole bunches, that's a pretty good
indication the tranny mount *is* broken.
Question: Isn't a T4 a stick? Does Jeep recommend ATF in a standard
transmission? I know some xfer cases use ATF... (I have to use 'spensive
synthetic gear lube in my NV4500, so I don't know about most other
standard transmissions.)
Dave
--- Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...> wrote:
> I do not know about the fluid but as far as I know the tranny fluid
> should not look like gear oil.
>
> I had bad tranny mounts in my 85 CJ7 and they knocked all of the time
> until I replaced them.
>
> Also check your transfer mount bolts make sure they are secure. Mine
> get loose sometimes and they make a scary noise when I put stress on
> them (you know when I go over the speed bumps in the streets, yeah
> right). Really check that out also.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
>
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> From: ldstruckn [mailto:ldstruckn@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:20 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] what fluid and a tranny mount
>
> I have an 82 cj7 with a T4(i think) and the book says to put ATF in
> it yet when i looked inside the tranny I saw gear lube(regular oil),
> what the crap is this?
> Also what would a blown tranny mount look like on this jeep; i need
> to know because there is a nocking sound and the shifters bounce
> around way to much.
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93913 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:46pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Oh Oh Chris.............. "the old Luge is impassible now....." Sounds
like a "challenge" in that statement. There have been vehicles through the
Luge in the past couple of years but not many............. Don't EVER say
NEVER!!! S.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:43 PM
> To: Janice Allison
> Cc: Sandee McCullen; Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> The old Luge is impassible now. Too washed out now even for the
> buggies. The hill he was referring to is called the Sluice. I have been
> down it several times.
>
> Chris
>
> On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Janice Allison wrote:
>
> > I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
> > me
> > wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
> >
> > Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
> > the
> > mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> > trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> > hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
> >
> > Jan
> > 98 TJ - Road Hazard
> >
> >
> > At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
> >> Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and
> >> RAC rode
> >> with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
> >> the
> >> ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
> >> problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
> >> through
> >> Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
> >> springs nor
> >> drive to the Cabin.
> >>
> >> Sandee
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> >>> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>> Jeep Cannot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> >>> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Kearney
> >>> Joe-CJ7@J...
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> >>> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>> Jeep Cannot
> >>>
> >>> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> >>> would
> >>> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> >>> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>>> Jeep
> >>>> Cannot
> >>>> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >>>>
> >>>> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >>>> Judgement day or Predator??
> >>>>
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93914 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:55pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
I have been down it but not up it. In fact I went down it with out
brakes!
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:43 PM
To: Janice Allison
Cc: Sandee McCullen; Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
The old Luge is impassible now. Too washed out now even for the
buggies. The hill he was referring to is called the Sluice. I have been
down it several times.
Chris
On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Janice Allison wrote:
> I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
> me
> wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
>
> Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
> the
> mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
>
> Jan
> 98 TJ - Road Hazard
>
>
> At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
>> Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and
>> RAC rode
>> with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
>> the
>> ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it..........
no
>> problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
>> through
>> Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
>> springs nor
>> drive to the Cabin.
>>
>> Sandee
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
>>> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
>>> Jeep Cannot
>>>
>>>
>>> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
>>> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>>>
>>> Joe Kearney
>>> Joe-CJ7@J...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
>>> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
>>> Jeep Cannot
>>>
>>> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it...
I
>>> would
>>> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank
>>> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
>>> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
>>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
>>>> Jeep
>>>> Cannot
>>>> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
>>>>
>>>> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
>>>> Judgement day or Predator??
>>>>
>>>> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
>>>>
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93915 From: Janice Allison <jallison@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 2:21pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Okay, I stand corrected. However, I'm not a he, I'm a she.
Geez, what is this the "Good Old Boys network?" hehe Sorry, couldn't
resist - head's still spinning from all the recent drama. :)
Jan
At 02:42 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Chris Krieg wrote:
>The old Luge is impassible now. Too washed out now even for the
>buggies. The hill he was referring to is called the Sluice. I have been
>down it several times.
>
>Chris
>
>On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Janice Allison wrote:
>
> > I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
> > me
> > wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
> >
> > Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
> > the
> > mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> > trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> > hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
> >
> > Jan
> > 98 TJ - Road Hazard
> >
> >
> > At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
> >> Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and
> >> RAC rode
> >> with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
> >> the
> >> ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
> >> problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
> >> through
> >> Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
> >> springs nor
> >> drive to the Cabin.
> >>
> >> Sandee
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> >>> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>> Jeep Cannot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> >>> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Kearney
> >>> Joe-CJ7@J...
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> >>> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>> Jeep Cannot
> >>>
> >>> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> >>> would
> >>> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>> From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>>> Jeep
> >>>> Cannot
> >>>> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >>>>
> >>>> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >>>> Judgement day or Predator??
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
> >>>>
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93916 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 2:38pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Joe,
Better to be shot down here than out on the trail in front of a HUMMER!
LOL
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:55 PM
To: Sandee McCullen; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
Gee thanks Sandee for shooting me down.
I still think we should challenge them.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:46 PM
To: Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC
rode
with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
the
ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
through
Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs
nor
drive to the Cabin.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> would
> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
>
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
> >
> >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
> >
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93917 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 2:38pm
Subject: RE: transfercase
Dustin,
Shifting from range to range (HI to LO or LO to HI) must done at nearly
a dead stop (rolling 1 MPH or almost stopped).
Shifting modes (2WD to 4WD) can be done at speed....no reason to stop.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dustin McBroom [mailto:dusmcbr0@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:46 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] transfercase
when i shift from 4L into 4H it makes an extremely loud bang! like
something is just dropping. anyone know what this is?
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93918 From: <Gregakenny@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 9:44am
Subject: OT free snake
Free Boa to a good home. About 4 ft long and is good tempered.
Call Greg at 480-985-5704 or e-mail me.
Greg
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93894 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:48pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
would
pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
>Cannot
>Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
>
>Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
>Judgement day or Predator??
>
>http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93895 From: Dustin McBroom <dusmcbr0@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:49pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
damn, i doubt they could make it through half of the trails that
many jeeps travel!
-- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe-CJ7" <Joe-CJ7@j...> wrote:
> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats
it... I
> would
> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
>
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
> >
> >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
> >
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93896 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:45pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC rode
with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning the
ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours through
Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs nor
drive to the Cabin.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> would
> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
>
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
> >
> >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93897 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:55pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Gee thanks Sandee for shooting me down.
I still think we should challenge them.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:46 PM
To: Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC
rode
with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
the
ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
through
Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs
nor
drive to the Cabin.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> would
> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
>
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
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> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
> >
> >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93898 From: Kevin & Kelly <kkhop@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 0:56pm
Subject: Re: Sharky Shirts?
Thank You Frank, Now for the fun part how to
get a hold of Smitty???
Kelly--
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...> wrote:
>
>
> its just my way of sayin thanks. I woulda been stuck without you
guys. :)
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Kevin & Kelly" <kkhop@j...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sharky Shirts?
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 20:13:41 -0000
> >
> >
> >Well Thank You Frank, but really thats not necessary,
> >I really enjoy helping out.
> >Kelly
> >
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
> >wrote:
> > > I want to buy you both shirts for all the help ya did. Also...at
> >least 6
> > > other people too!
> > >
> > > Frank
> > > http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> > > http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Kevin & Kelly" <kkhop@j...>
> > > >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Sharky Shirts?
> > > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:59:41 -0000
> > > >
> > > >I would like to get my shirts too.
> > > >
> > > >Kelly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona"
<BadAZXJ@m...>
> > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Are there any out there for sale? I sent an email to smitty
but
> >he
> > > >must be
> > > > > busy or something.
> > > > > I want to buy one for all the key people that helped me
organize
> > > >the sharky
> > > > > run and bbq.
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93899 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:13pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
So I wonder what the price is for this Extreme Tour?
Hell I will take a passenger in my seat if the price is right!
The price by the way would be to support the OHV community.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: aztjdriver [mailto:aztjdriver@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:50 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
Cannot
Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
Judgement day or Predator??
http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93900 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:18pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Has anyone sent them an invite? Then again they may be stating that
soley on the principle that they have permits to run in areas that
we are not aloud unless we also get the permits. May have or more
like should be directed that way, otherwise let the games
begin...ROFLMAO<grinning from East Valley to West Valley>
Chris
---------------------------------------------------------------------
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...> wrote:
> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> Judgement day or Predator??
>
> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
93901 From: ldstruckn <ldstruckn@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:20pm
Subject: what fluid and a tranny mount
I have an 82 cj7 with a T4(i think) and the book says to put ATF in
it yet when i looked inside the tranny I saw gear lube(regular oil),
what the crap is this?
Also what would a blown tranny mount look like on this jeep; i need
to know because there is a nocking sound and the shifters bounce
around way to much.
93902 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:26pm
Subject: RE: what fluid and a tranny mount
I do not know about the fluid but as far as I know the tranny fluid
should not look like gear oil.
I had bad tranny mounts in my 85 CJ7 and they knocked all of the time
until I replaced them.
Also check your transfer mount bolts make sure they are secure. Mine
get loose sometimes and they make a scary noise when I put stress on
them (you know when I go over the speed bumps in the streets, yeah
right). Really check that out also.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: ldstruckn [mailto:ldstruckn@h...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:20 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] what fluid and a tranny mount
I have an 82 cj7 with a T4(i think) and the book says to put ATF in
it yet when i looked inside the tranny I saw gear lube(regular oil),
what the crap is this?
Also what would a blown tranny mount look like on this jeep; i need
to know because there is a nocking sound and the shifters bounce
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93903 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:27pm
Subject: Re: Parker Desert Splash
I'll be there.
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Subject: [az_vjc] Parker Desert Splash
> Anyone have any info on this event?
>
> I talked to someone this weekend who is going but I can't remember
> who it was. Who's going?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
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93904 From: Janice Allison <jallison@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes me
wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for the
mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
Jan
98 TJ - Road Hazard
At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
>Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC rode
>with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning the
>ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
>problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours through
>Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs nor
>drive to the Cabin.
>
>Sandee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> > Jeep Cannot
> >
> >
> > Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> > Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> >
> > Joe Kearney
> > Joe-CJ7@J...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> > To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> > Jeep Cannot
> >
> > how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> > would
> > pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank
> > http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> > >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
> > >Cannot
> > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> > >
> > >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> > >Judgement day or Predator??
> > >
> > >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93905 From: kristi <jeepgirl@l...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:27pm
Subject: RE: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
We forward the thread to them.
Kristi/Jason
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-----Original Message-----
From: Chris [mailto:my1stjeep@e...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:18 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
Has anyone sent them an invite? Then again they may be stating that
soley on the principle that they have permits to run in areas that
we are not aloud unless we also get the permits. May have or more
like should be directed that way, otherwise let the games
begin...ROFLMAO<grinning from East Valley to West Valley>
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93906 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:35pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
That would be a good sight to see.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Janice Allison [mailto:jallison@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Sandee McCullen; Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
me
wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
the
mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
Jan
98 TJ - Road Hazard
At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
>Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC
rode
>with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
the
>ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
>problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
through
>Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs
nor
>drive to the Cabin.
>
>Sandee
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
> > Jeep Cannot
> >
> >
> > Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> > Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> >
> > Joe Kearney
> > Joe-CJ7@J...
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> > To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
> > Jeep Cannot
> >
> > how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it...
I
> > would
> > pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> >
> >
> >
> > Frank
> > http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
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> > >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep
> > >Cannot
> > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> > >
> > >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> > >Judgement day or Predator??
> > >
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93907 From: Bill LaBrie <mrbuttz@h...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:37pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Ok, carrying a rack of TOW missles or an entire field hospital, maybe. Two
people and fishing rods? No way.
What a crock of s$&$.
>From: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
>To: aztjdriver@y..., az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
>Cannot
>Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 12:58:28 -0700
>
>how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I would
>pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
>
>
>Frank
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> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
> >
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93908 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:38pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
I think, for the average tourist, a 4x4 trip in a Hummer would be a
heck of a lot more comfortable than a SWB Jeep. I think that's what
this company is trying to say. Besides, I would rather see them on an
easy, scenic 4x4 trail than any of the tougher trails. Anyone who has
witnessed the 'Hummer tour buses' out at the Coves at Saquaro Lake
would understand what I mean.
Linda
54 wagon
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...> wrote:
> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> Judgement day or Predator??
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> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
93909 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:39pm
Subject: Re: transfercase
Dustin,
What kind of Jeep? Automatic or standard transmission? Are you standing
still or rolling when you shift?
Dave
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> when i shift from 4L into 4H it makes an extremely loud bang! like
> something is just dropping. anyone know what this is?
>
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93910 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:34pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
FYI: The "Luge" is the trail that drops into the 8' deep washout.........
the "steep hill" is the by-pass..... I've seen Hummers almost
everywhere.......... including "stuck in the "V" rock on Upper Woodpecker
years ago but I truly don't think a Hummer (original or H2) has ever done
the Luge........... most certainly not without massive body damage. There
aren't many vehicles of any caliber doing the "Luge" lately.............
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janice Allison [mailto:jallison@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:25 PM
> To: Sandee McCullen; Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes me
> wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
>
> Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for the
> mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
>
> Jan
> 98 TJ - Road Hazard
>
>
> At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
> >Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP
> and RAC rode
> >with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning the
> >ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
> >problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial
> tours through
> >Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
> springs nor
> >drive to the Cabin.
> >
> >Sandee
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> > > To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> > > Jeep Cannot
> > >
> > >
> > > Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> > > Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> > >
> > > Joe Kearney
> > > Joe-CJ7@J...
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> > > To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> > > Jeep Cannot
> > >
> > > how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> > > would
> > > pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Frank
> > > http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> > > http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> > > >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > > >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
> Where Jeep
> > > >Cannot
> > > >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> > > >
> > > >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> > > >Judgement day or Predator??
> > > >
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93911 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:42pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
The old Luge is impassible now. Too washed out now even for the
buggies. The hill he was referring to is called the Sluice. I have been
down it several times.
Chris
On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Janice Allison wrote:
> I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
> me
> wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
>
> Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
> the
> mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
>
> Jan
> 98 TJ - Road Hazard
>
>
> At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
>> Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and
>> RAC rode
>> with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
>> the
>> ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
>> problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
>> through
>> Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
>> springs nor
>> drive to the Cabin.
>>
>> Sandee
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
>>> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
>>> Jeep Cannot
>>>
>>>
>>> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
>>> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>>>
>>> Joe Kearney
>>> Joe-CJ7@J...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
>>> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
>>> Jeep Cannot
>>>
>>> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
>>> would
>>> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank
>>> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
>>> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
>>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
>>>> Jeep
>>>> Cannot
>>>> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
>>>>
>>>> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
>>>> Judgement day or Predator??
>>>>
>>>> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
>>>>
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93912 From: Dave Peterson <gonzodave@y...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:44pm
Subject: RE: what fluid and a tranny mount
You can usually check a transimssion mount by putting a floor jack under
the transmission and jacking it up. If the tranny moves relative to the
crossmember, the mount's busted.
Of course, that assumes you can *get* to the tranny to put a jack under
it. If you have a one-piece crossmember / skid plate, that's another
story.
But if your shifters are moving around whole bunches, that's a pretty good
indication the tranny mount *is* broken.
Question: Isn't a T4 a stick? Does Jeep recommend ATF in a standard
transmission? I know some xfer cases use ATF... (I have to use 'spensive
synthetic gear lube in my NV4500, so I don't know about most other
standard transmissions.)
Dave
--- Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...> wrote:
> I do not know about the fluid but as far as I know the tranny fluid
> should not look like gear oil.
>
> I had bad tranny mounts in my 85 CJ7 and they knocked all of the time
> until I replaced them.
>
> Also check your transfer mount bolts make sure they are secure. Mine
> get loose sometimes and they make a scary noise when I put stress on
> them (you know when I go over the speed bumps in the streets, yeah
> right). Really check that out also.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:20 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] what fluid and a tranny mount
>
> I have an 82 cj7 with a T4(i think) and the book says to put ATF in
> it yet when i looked inside the tranny I saw gear lube(regular oil),
> what the crap is this?
> Also what would a blown tranny mount look like on this jeep; i need
> to know because there is a nocking sound and the shifters bounce
> around way to much.
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93913 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:46pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Oh Oh Chris.............. "the old Luge is impassible now....." Sounds
like a "challenge" in that statement. There have been vehicles through the
Luge in the past couple of years but not many............. Don't EVER say
NEVER!!! S.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@c...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:43 PM
> To: Janice Allison
> Cc: Sandee McCullen; Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
> az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> The old Luge is impassible now. Too washed out now even for the
> buggies. The hill he was referring to is called the Sluice. I have been
> down it several times.
>
> Chris
>
> On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Janice Allison wrote:
>
> > I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
> > me
> > wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
> >
> > Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
> > the
> > mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> > trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> > hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
> >
> > Jan
> > 98 TJ - Road Hazard
> >
> >
> > At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
> >> Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and
> >> RAC rode
> >> with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
> >> the
> >> ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
> >> problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
> >> through
> >> Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
> >> springs nor
> >> drive to the Cabin.
> >>
> >> Sandee
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> >>> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>> Jeep Cannot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> >>> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Kearney
> >>> Joe-CJ7@J...
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> >>> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>> Jeep Cannot
> >>>
> >>> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> >>> would
> >>> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> >>> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>> From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>>> Jeep
> >>>> Cannot
> >>>> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >>>>
> >>>> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >>>> Judgement day or Predator??
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
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93914 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 1:55pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
I have been down it but not up it. In fact I went down it with out
brakes!
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 2:43 PM
To: Janice Allison
Cc: Sandee McCullen; Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
The old Luge is impassible now. Too washed out now even for the
buggies. The hill he was referring to is called the Sluice. I have been
down it several times.
Chris
On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Janice Allison wrote:
> I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
> me
> wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
>
> Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
> the
> mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
>
> Jan
> 98 TJ - Road Hazard
>
>
> At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
>> Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and
>> RAC rode
>> with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
>> the
>> ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it..........
no
>> problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
>> through
>> Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
>> springs nor
>> drive to the Cabin.
>>
>> Sandee
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
>>> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
>>> Jeep Cannot
>>>
>>>
>>> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
>>> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>>>
>>> Joe Kearney
>>> Joe-CJ7@J...
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
>>> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go
Where
>>> Jeep Cannot
>>>
>>> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it...
I
>>> would
>>> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank
>>> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
>>> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
>>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
>>>> Jeep
>>>> Cannot
>>>> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
>>>>
>>>> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
>>>> Judgement day or Predator??
>>>>
>>>> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
>>>>
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93915 From: Janice Allison <jallison@a...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 2:21pm
Subject: Re: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Okay, I stand corrected. However, I'm not a he, I'm a she.
Geez, what is this the "Good Old Boys network?" hehe Sorry, couldn't
resist - head's still spinning from all the recent drama. :)
Jan
At 02:42 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Chris Krieg wrote:
>The old Luge is impassible now. Too washed out now even for the
>buggies. The hill he was referring to is called the Sluice. I have been
>down it several times.
>
>Chris
>
>On Tuesday, November 4, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Janice Allison wrote:
>
> > I've seen several Hummer tours going through Box Canyon. Always makes
> > me
> > wonder what I could earn driving people around on easy trails.
> >
> > Also met a guy back by Martinez Cabin who worked as a test driver for
> > the
> > mini-hummer (H2?) He had just driven the thing down that really steep
> > trail (the luge?) like he was out for a Sunday drive. Go ahead, boo &
> > hiss, but I've never seen a Jeep go down it. :)
> >
> > Jan
> > 98 TJ - Road Hazard
> >
> >
> > At 01:45 PM 11/4/03 -0700, Sandee McCullen wrote:
> >> Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and
> >> RAC rode
> >> with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
> >> the
> >> ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
> >> problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
> >> through
> >> Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the
> >> springs nor
> >> drive to the Cabin.
> >>
> >> Sandee
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> >>> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>> Jeep Cannot
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> >>> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
> >>>
> >>> Joe Kearney
> >>> Joe-CJ7@J...
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> >>> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>> Jeep Cannot
> >>>
> >>> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> >>> would
> >>> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Frank
> >>> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> >>> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >>>> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>>> Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> >>>> Jeep
> >>>> Cannot
> >>>> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >>>>
> >>>> Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >>>> Judgement day or Predator??
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
> >>>>
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93916 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 2:38pm
Subject: RE: Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where Jeep Cannot
Joe,
Better to be shot down here than out on the trail in front of a HUMMER!
LOL
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:55 PM
To: Sandee McCullen; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
Gee thanks Sandee for shooting me down.
I still think we should challenge them.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Sandee McCullen [mailto:mccullen@c...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:46 PM
To: Joe-CJ7; BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...;
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep Cannot
Hummers can make it through Box Canyon.............. the MGCP and RAC
rode
with an applicant for "Hummer Tours" in this area. I was questioning
the
ability of the full width Hummer through but they did it.......... no
problem! BTW: They received a tour permit to do commercial tours
through
Box Canyon and out to Martinez Canyon but they cannot cross the springs
nor
drive to the Cabin.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:49 PM
> To: BADAZXJ XJArizona; aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
>
> Hell they could not make it through Box Canyon.
> Let's Challenge them. I am game for that.
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BADAZXJ XJArizona [mailto:BadAZXJ@m...]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 12:58 PM
> To: aztjdriver@y...; az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
> Jeep Cannot
>
> how bout Axle Alley...or lower terminator.... yeah yeah thats it... I
> would
> pay $$$$$ to see a hummer go through that trail... LOL
>
>
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "aztjdriver" <aztjdriver@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Local AZ Company Claims The Hummer Can Go Where
Jeep
> >Cannot
> >Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 19:50:06 -0000
> >
> >Extreme AZ. Anyone care to email them for a challenge say on
> >Judgement day or Predator??
> >
> >http://www.extremearizona.com/sports_adventure/hummer_tours.htm
> >
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93917 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 2:38pm
Subject: RE: transfercase
Dustin,
Shifting from range to range (HI to LO or LO to HI) must done at nearly
a dead stop (rolling 1 MPH or almost stopped).
Shifting modes (2WD to 4WD) can be done at speed....no reason to stop.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Dustin McBroom [mailto:dusmcbr0@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 1:46 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] transfercase
when i shift from 4L into 4H it makes an extremely loud bang! like
something is just dropping. anyone know what this is?
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93918 From: <Gregakenny@c...>
Date: Tue Nov 4, 2003 9:44am
Subject: OT free snake
Free Boa to a good home. About 4 ft long and is good tempered.
Call Greg at 480-985-5704 or e-mail me.
Greg
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