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01-08-2004, 09:17 PM
89202-89226
89202 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:12pm
Subject: RE: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
Mr. Wishy Washy,
I completely understand. Good for you for holding out for that perfect
Jeep. You are a better man than I. If I was with out for this long I
might be too quick to buy.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott K [mailto:osmtj@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I didn't
sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive. After
the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep. It
had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was more
what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a great
Moab rig.
Scott K
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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89203 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:14pm
Subject: Crown King Run
Since there doesn't appear to be any interest in the 1:30pm Crown King
run that I had listed I've decided to delete the run and go on a earlier
run. If anyone really wants to go at 1:30 send me an email and we can
work something out.
See you on Saturday at the saloon.
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
89204 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:35pm
Subject: Re: Crown King Update and reminder
Just noticed that northbound I17 will be closed a portion of this weekend.
Probably won't make any difference to most people. For what it is worth,
here is the notice from the DOT.
Saturday Aug 16th 11PM to Sunday Aug 17th 12PM
I17 Northbound closed Bell Rd to Pinnacle Peak to install lighting and
signage, use 19th or 35th Ave
John DeRuiter, WM7A
98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:44 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Crown King Update and reminder
> I posted this before and promised to post it again. At this point we have
> 104 Jeeps signed up after counting the numbers in each trip. PLEASE BE ON
> TIME we have a large group to keep any kind of schedule. Expect your group
> to leave AT the time posted for the run.
> I hope everyone has a great trip and I look forward to meeting everyone in
> Crown King. Have fun on the trip. Remember the trip leader and tail end
are
> there to help you, but they are also along to enjoy the run. Be nice to
them
> with such large groups even the best trip leader and tail end will look
very
> unorganized See you in Crown King.
> Jim F. aka Hackle
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> Marx
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89205 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:55pm
Subject: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
thought. :)
http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
Have a good day
Brad
89206 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:05pm
Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
A search on 4wd.com for wheel bearings shows a schematic which will
help you...
http://www.4wd.com/shopwrangler/DisplayProduct.asp?ProductSKU=5356675
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
89207 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:14pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and paint :-)
John DeRuiter, WM7A
98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> thought. :)
> http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>
> Have a good day
> Brad
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
89208 From: Scott K <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:16pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
I think its just plain sick that Brad even washes it ;)
Scott K
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...> wrote:
> Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
paint :-)
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
>
> > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > thought. :)
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> > Have a good day
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
89209 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:25pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
And probably would have lasted just as long, considering the
loose nut behind the wheel? :-)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
wrote:
> Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
paint :-)
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
>
> > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
picts
> > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > thought. :)
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> > Have a good day
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
89210 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:54pm
Subject: RE: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
A postal Jeep ?!!!!
I WON , I WON , I WON , I GUESSED IT RIGHT !!!!
Wait , I didn't ?
Bummer ....
Purple .
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott K [mailto:osmtj@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:05 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
Those that have been around here for the last 5 years know that I
originally had a YJ when the club was formed and replaced that with
a TJ in February of '99. I sold the TJ in June and have been having
a serious case of withdrawal for the past 2 months. :(
I finally came across the perfect Jeep to take up to Montana with me
(our house closes this week and we leave for good Sept 2nd). I feel
like I'm getting a great deal on it. I've got Theresa's stamp of
approval so I'm picking it up tomorrow. The first mod will be to
slap on a club sticker :)
Anybody want to take a W.A.G. as to what my 3rd Jeep will be? I'll
post a pic tomorrow and some details. (Joey K, Mark B, & Stu O -
DON'T SPILL THE BEANS!)
We can baptize it into the club at the anniversary run to CK. I feel
like a kid again! :D
Scott K
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89211 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:44pm
Subject: RE: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Hey...there is nothing wrong with washing you TJ...and certainly nothing
wrong with washing the engine either! LOL
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott K [mailto:osmtj@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:17 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
I think its just plain sick that Brad even washes it ;)
Scott K
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...> wrote:
> Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
paint :-)
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
>
> > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > thought. :)
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> > Have a good day
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
> >
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89212 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:26pm
Subject: RE: trailers
Equipment Trader ( auto trader publications ) is a good place to look . New
and used featured here . There is a trailer sales place on 19 th ave north
of Mountain View that sells new ones for around $1400 .
Hope this helps ,
Purple .
-----Original Message-----
From: jpcralweram [mailto:jpcrawleram@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:50 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] trailers
Im looking for a trailer for my jeep. Proabably a 16ft, duel axle
with atleast one set of brakes.
does anyone know of a good "cheap" place to pick one up. Any place in
the valley that sells used ones.
thanks
Andrew
93yj
jpcrawleram@a...
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89213 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:21pm
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
nevermind, I dont know what I was thinking when I posted this... been
to long since Ive had a 30 :p
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> Maybe they are talking about the bearings inside?? Otherwise I dont
> see how it could wear out as Jim said.
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> > I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
> the tie rod
> > hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
> believe
> > the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
> highly doubt
> > the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
> one. Jim F.
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
> Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> >
> >
> > A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was
told
> > that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> > meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> > I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> > Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
> >
> > Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> > non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> > bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
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89214 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:47pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Jeez Brad.
Dents? And mud?
You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that sort of
thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened, anyway?
Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I can
convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped manufacturing
defect in my oil pan?
Brad wrote:
>Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
>of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
>thought. :)
>http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>
>Have a good day
>Brad
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
89215 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:56pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Ha! I think the Rubicon owns me (or at least my wallet), not the
other way around. :-) I was taking the scenic route to Jack in the
Box!
As far as your oil pan dent, you could tell them that due to a mfg
defect the air intake got restricted causing excessive suction in
the crankcase through the vent hose, thus causing the oil pan to
partially implode...
So how did you dent the pan? I know people dent them but
when I look at mine it sure seems like it would be unlikely as
high up as it is.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
wrote:
> Jeez Brad.
>
> Dents? And mud?
>
> You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that
sort of
> thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened,
anyway?
>
> Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I
can
> convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped
manufacturing
> defect in my oil pan?
>
> Brad wrote:
>
> >Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
picts
> >of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> >thought. :)
> >http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> >Have a good day
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
89216 From: John Kuklinski <jkuklinski@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:08pm
Subject: Re:Re arch
I work at National Spring in Santee, Ca. we provide custom springs or can re
arch and add a leaf for most every vehicle. The add a leaf and re arch works
for most of the customers who are looking to either bring the vehicle back
to stock height a 1 to 2 inch lift. When re arching the springs it is
important to add the full leaf to the spring pack to keep the arch and for
additional weight caring capacity (i.e.. boats, trailers, bikes). Depending
on how the vehicle is driven or abused, the springs will keep the new arch
for quite a while. It usually depends on the customer's budget and what they
will be using the vehicle for that determines whether they purchase the
custom springs or have their existing springs reworked.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Digest Number 3872
> There are 25 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Fuel Tank disposal
> From: "Steve G." <glock45x@n...>
> 2. Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
> From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
> 3. YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> 4. RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> 5. Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...>
> 6. Re: YJ Dana 30 knucklesr
> From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> 7. Re: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
> From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
> 8. Crown King Update and reminder
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> 9. Re: Opinions Wanted - Spring Re-arch?
> From: "G.R. Holmes" <niitoyis@w...>
> 10. Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: "Scott K" <osmtj@y...>
> 11. Re: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: dzrtoffroad@a...
> 12. Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: "Mark" <fordlover49@y...>
> 13. RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "Rick Norman" <4x4xfun1@c...>
> 14. Fwd: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: dzrtoffroad@a...
> 15. Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...>
> 16. RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> 17. RE: Members Area Pictures
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> 18. RE: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> 19. Crown King Run
> From: "Leonard K. Pennock" <leonardpennock@c...>
> 20. Re: Crown King Update and reminder
> From: "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> 21. Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> 22. Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
> From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
> 23. Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> From: "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> 24. Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> From: "Scott K" <osmtj@y...>
> 25. Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:45:02 -0000
> From: "Steve G." <glock45x@n...>
> Subject: Re: Fuel Tank disposal
>
> I think you had better call them and get a straight answer, they would
> not take mine.
>
> Steve
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> >
> > I guess I should have said, I have one that is plastic and one that
> > is metal.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave King" <daveaz@a...> wrote:
> > > unless they are plastic....then, I am not sure...
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave King" <daveaz@a...> wrote:
> > > > take them to the scrap metal yard on 35th ave and the river
> > > bottom..I
> > > > know they will take them and pay you for it...:-)
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > I think this has been covered, but I forgot.
> > > > > I have 2 fuel tanks I need to dispose of, where do I do this?
> > > They
> > > > are empty
> > > > > and relatively fume free.
> > > > >
> > > > > --James
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:45:48 -0000
> From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
> Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
>
> I bought two really large spindle nut sockets from Jay's Auto Parts
> (Main, east of Dobson). They had them in stock.
>
> Surprisingly, Darner can get old Dana axle parts and old Dodge truck
> parts, but not u-joints for closed knuckle D70s. I have also had good
> luck with Reith Auto Parts (CarQuest).
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> > You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
> > Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
> > >
> > > I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> > > getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> > > adjusted correctly.
> > >
> > > These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> > > outside:
> > >
> > > outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
> > >
> > >
> > > This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
> > >
> > > outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
> > >
> > > Can anyone confirm this?
> > >
> > > Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> > > inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley?
> Or
> > > do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the
> big
> > > nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
> > anything
> > > that big and neither does Sears.
> > >
> > > tnx
> > >
> > > Joe Larkin
> > >
> > > __________________________________
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>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:31:08 -0700
> From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> Subject: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:00:50 -0700
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or the tie rod
> hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would believe
> the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I highly doubt
> the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out one. Jim
F.
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:36:33 -0000
> From: "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...>
> Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> Also for an FYI, the outer knuckles are the same from a YJ to a TJ.
> Look in junk yards for them, but they are not too cheap. About $100
> a pair, unless you find someone you know that will give you a deal.
> I "think" 4 Wheelers has some, but have him call Barry.
>
>
> Mike Baney
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> > I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
> the tie rod
> > hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
> believe
> > the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
> highly doubt
> > the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
> one. Jim F.
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
> Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> >
> >
> > A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> > that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> > meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> > I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> > Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
> >
> > Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> > non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> > bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:37:18 -0000
> From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> Maybe they are talking about the bearings inside?? Otherwise I dont
> see how it could wear out as Jim said.
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> > I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
> the tie rod
> > hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
> believe
> > the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
> highly doubt
> > the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
> one. Jim F.
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
> Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> >
> >
> > A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> > that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> > meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> > I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> > Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
> >
> > Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> > non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> > bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:34:43 -0700
> From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
> Subject: Re: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
>
> I've got the spindle nut socket (2- 1/16" bearing locknut socket) if you'd
> like to borrow it (I'm in Chandler - Elliot and Alma School). I bought
mine
> from Four Wheel Drive Hardware for $9.95 with free shipping. Here is a
link
> if you want to buy it from them:
>
> http://www.4wd.com/Shop4wd/ProductDetail.asp?ProductSku=A692N
>
> I had to have one also for my M416 trailer which uses the old CJ hubs as
> well.
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>
> --------------
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> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:25 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
>
>
> > You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
> > Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
> > >
> > > I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> > > getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> > > adjusted correctly.
> > >
> > > These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> > > outside:
> > >
> > > outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
> > >
> > >
> > > This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
> > >
> > > outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
> > >
> > > Can anyone confirm this?
> > >
> > > Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> > > inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
> > > do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
> > > nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
> > anything
> > > that big and neither does Sears.
> > >
> > > tnx
> > >
> > > Joe Larkin
> > >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:44:16 -0700
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> Subject: Crown King Update and reminder
>
> I posted this before and promised to post it again. At this point we have
> 104 Jeeps signed up after counting the numbers in each trip. PLEASE BE ON
> TIME we have a large group to keep any kind of schedule. Expect your group
> to leave AT the time posted for the run.
> I hope everyone has a great trip and I look forward to meeting everyone in
> Crown King. Have fun on the trip. Remember the trip leader and tail end
are
> there to help you, but they are also along to enjoy the run. Be nice to
them
> with such large groups even the best trip leader and tail end will look
very
> unorganized See you in Crown King.
> Jim F. aka Hackle
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:00:04 -0700
> From: "G.R. Holmes" <niitoyis@w...>
> Subject: Re: Opinions Wanted - Spring Re-arch?
>
> Thanks for the come-back John. I haven't got a pricing on the re-arch
> scenario yet but a set of the 6" springs from Rusty's will be $299.
> Part of my dilemma is that I am not exactly sure where the rear will
> end up after the shackle reversal. Todd (the FSJ friend making the
> parts says 6-7" of lift plus I gain additional height with the Revolvers
> over the stock shackle). Maybe just getting the rear installed and then
> going to a spring shop and having them make a custom spring for the
> front to bring it up to height keeping in mind the front revolvers and
> the 10,500 winch, tow bar, etc would be the smart move. Anyone need a
> set of 4" lift Full SIze Jeep Springs?
>
> I'm going to broadcast this e-mail to the club also. It looks like
> re-arching the springs is a bad idea so that is out but on another note,
> the following:
>
> In doing the wiring for the Mobi-Arc (Thanks again Brad) it became
> apparent I would need to shorten the #4 cables for the Alternator,
> Ground and Battery. Not one to do things Half-***** I purchased a crimper
> for the larger size cables up to #2. Not being a very cheap tool I
> would like to see it put to use so anyone who is shortening or
> replacing/relocating cables for their battery(s) or winch, give me a
> buzz and you can borrow the crimpers and save yourself over $200 or the
> headache of having someone else do it and do the job right.
>
> Gary Holmes
>
> HUNTEROFFROAD@a... wrote:
>
> > Gary,
> > I would have to throw my opinon in against it. Usually rearched
> > springs are much stiffer and they will sag again. And since you use
> > your Cow quite a bit, the added trail use will cause them to fail
> > sooner. Ussually it seems they last a year or two. But it could be
> > a good idea for the time being unitl you can get custom springs made.
> > I know re-arching is quite a bit cheaper. Hope that helps...
> >
> > Other than that, I hope everythign is fine with you and your
> > family. Take care.
> >
> > John k
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:10:26 -0000
> From: "Scott K" <osmtj@y...>
> Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
> this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I didn't
> sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive. After
> the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep. It
> had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was more
> what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
> year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
> could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
>
> So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
> absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
> don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a great
> Moab rig.
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> > is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:25:47 EDT
> From: dzrtoffroad@a...
> Subject: Re: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> In a message dated 8/13/03 5:12:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> osmtj@y... writes:
>
>
> > <A HREF="mailto:osmtj@y...">osmtj@y...</A>
> > To:<A HREF="mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com">az_vjc@yahoogroups.com</A>
> >
>
>
> you mean
>
> YJ
>
>
>
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>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:30:32 -0000
> From: "Mark" <fordlover49@y...>
> Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> Yeah, after we drove around and looked at 5 or 6 jeeps guess what
> Scott discovered? You can't buy a perfect jeep for 3 grand. big
> surprise eh Scott ? Personally I think that Xj was a pretty good
> deal ... :P
>
> -Mark B.
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott K" <osmtj@y...> wrote:
> > It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
> > this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I
> didn't
> > sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive.
> After
> > the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep.
> It
> > had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was
> more
> > what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
> > year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
> > could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
> >
> > So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
> > absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
> > don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a
> great
> > Moab rig.
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> > > is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:30:23 -0700
> From: "Rick Norman" <4x4xfun1@c...>
> Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> How about the slides where the brake pads ride. Mine were very worn on a
> previous set of knuckles. The slides were very grooved and the brakes were
> acting funny. I actually replaced the knuckles, but I believe you can buy
a
> kit to cover the slides.
>
> Good luck. I have a pass. side knuckle I'd like to get rid of, If your
> looking to replace his.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:38:43 EDT
> From: dzrtoffroad@a...
> Subject: Fwd: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> In a message dated 8/13/03 5:31:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> fordlover49@y... writes:
>
>
> > <A HREF="mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com">az_vjc@yahoogroups.com</A>
> >
> YJ
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:01:22 -0700
> From: "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...>
> Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> If it has disk front brakes, the caliber sliders do wear and can wear a
> lot.. Mine ('98 TJ) already have a rather deep grove worn in both sides.
If
> I were not doing a WJ knuckle swap soon, I'ld be looking for a new pair of
> outer knuckles for the TJ.
>
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:00 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> > I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or the tie rod
> > hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
believe
> > the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I highly
doubt
> > the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out one.
Jim
> F.
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> >
> >
> > A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> > that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> > meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> > I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> > Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
> >
> > Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> > non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> > bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:04:37 -0700
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> I have a set of knuckles wearing out in the back yard if you want them
> or could use them.
>
> Joey K
> http://www.desertjeep.com
> 93YJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told that
> his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they meant the
> ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles. I didn't think the
> knuckles themselves encountered any wear. Anyone have an idea what the
> dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3 bolts from the
> back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:08:41 -0700
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> Subject: RE: Members Area Pictures
>
> Welcome Justin,
>
> To add picture next to your name just add the picture to your gallery
> then in your gallery you will be able to link the image to your Jeep.
> I believe your picture should be under 100K in size.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Joey K
> http://www.desertjeep.com
> 93YJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Pitcairn [mailto:jpitcairn@c...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:45 AM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Members Area Pictures
>
>
> Hello All,
> New to the list. I was trying to update my members area information
> and noticed that a lot of you have your Jeep pictured next to your name
> and vehicle. Will someone please tell me how to do this. Oh, I guess I
> should introduce myself. My name is Justin Pitcairn and I just picked
> up my third Jeep, a 2003 Wrangler Rubicon. Check the members board for
> all the modifications so far and a few pictures of it on Trail 42. I am
> look forward to meeting some of you on the up coming Crown King Run.
>
> Thanks Again
>
> Justin Pitcairn
> 2003 White Wrangler Rubicon
> jpitcairn@c...
>
>
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>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:12:59 -0700
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> Subject: RE: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> Mr. Wishy Washy,
>
> I completely understand. Good for you for holding out for that perfect
> Jeep. You are a better man than I. If I was with out for this long I
> might be too quick to buy.
>
> Joey K
> http://www.desertjeep.com
> 93YJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott K [mailto:osmtj@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:10 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
>
> It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
> this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I didn't
> sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive. After
> the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep. It
> had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was more
> what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
> year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
> could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
>
> So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
> absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
> don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a great
> Moab rig.
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> > is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:14:20 -0700
> From: "Leonard K. Pennock" <leonardpennock@c...>
> Subject: Crown King Run
>
> Since there doesn't appear to be any interest in the 1:30pm Crown King
> run that I had listed I've decided to delete the run and go on a earlier
> run. If anyone really wants to go at 1:30 send me an email and we can
> work something out.
>
> See you on Saturday at the saloon.
>
> --
> Leonard K. Pennock
>
> Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
> find that they very rarely lose or fail.
>
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:35:05 -0700
> From: "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> Subject: Re: Crown King Update and reminder
>
> Just noticed that northbound I17 will be closed a portion of this weekend.
> Probably won't make any difference to most people. For what it is worth,
> here is the notice from the DOT.
>
> Saturday Aug 16th 11PM to Sunday Aug 17th 12PM
> I17 Northbound closed Bell Rd to Pinnacle Peak to install lighting and
> signage, use 19th or 35th Ave
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
>
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:44 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Crown King Update and reminder
>
>
> > I posted this before and promised to post it again. At this point we
have
> > 104 Jeeps signed up after counting the numbers in each trip. PLEASE BE
ON
> > TIME we have a large group to keep any kind of schedule. Expect your
group
> > to leave AT the time posted for the run.
> > I hope everyone has a great trip and I look forward to meeting everyone
in
> > Crown King. Have fun on the trip. Remember the trip leader and tail end
> are
> > there to help you, but they are also along to enjoy the run. Be nice to
> them
> > with such large groups even the best trip leader and tail end will look
> very
> > unorganized See you in Crown King.
> > Jim F. aka Hackle
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> >
> >
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> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:55:23 -0000
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> Subject: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
> Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> thought. :)
> http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>
> Have a good day
> Brad
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:05:10 -0000
> From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
> Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
>
> A search on 4wd.com for wheel bearings shows a schematic which will
> help you...
>
> http://www.4wd.com/shopwrangler/DisplayProduct.asp?ProductSKU=5356675
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:14:45 -0700
> From: "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
> Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and paint :-)
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
>
> > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > thought. :)
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> > Have a good day
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> >
> >
>
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> Message: 24
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:16:40 -0000
> From: "Scott K" <osmtj@y...>
> Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
> I think its just plain sick that Brad even washes it ;)
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...> wrote:
> > Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
> paint :-)
> >
> > John DeRuiter, WM7A
> > 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> >
> >
> > > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> > > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > > thought. :)
> > > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> > >
> > > Have a good day
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
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> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 25
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:25:50 -0000
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
> And probably would have lasted just as long, considering the
> loose nut behind the wheel? :-)
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> wrote:
> > Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
> paint :-)
> >
> > John DeRuiter, WM7A
> > 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> >
> >
> > > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
> picts
> > > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > > thought. :)
> > > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> > >
> > > Have a good day
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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89217 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:11pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Not actually sure when I dented the oil pan, I think it was on a night
run on Raw Deal (upper), that is the only time I remember slipping
enough to do that. Got it good too. Luckily it didn't puncture and the
dent is on the side, so the oil is still picking up. Only noticed it
when I was putting on my steering box skid plate.
Brad wrote:
>Ha! I think the Rubicon owns me (or at least my wallet), not the
>other way around. :-) I was taking the scenic route to Jack in the
>Box!
>
>As far as your oil pan dent, you could tell them that due to a mfg
>defect the air intake got restricted causing excessive suction in
>the crankcase through the vent hose, thus causing the oil pan to
>partially implode...
>
>So how did you dent the pan? I know people dent them but
>when I look at mine it sure seems like it would be unlikely as
>high up as it is.
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Jeez Brad.
>>
>>Dents? And mud?
>>
>>You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that
>>
>>
>sort of
>
>
>>thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened,
>>
>>
>anyway?
>
>
>>Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I
>>
>>
>can
>
>
>>convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped
>>
>>
>manufacturing
>
>
>>defect in my oil pan?
>>
>>Brad wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
>>>
>>>
>picts
>
>
>>>of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
>>>thought. :)
>>>http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>>>
>>>Have a good day
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>>>
>>>
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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89218 From: Joe West <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:19pm
Subject: RE: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Take your rig to Hunter Offroad and have John weld on a skid to your oil
pan... He can do it relatively inexpensively, quickly, and you'll get a
great deal more protection. John is so quick that there is relatively
little heat transferred to the oil. Mine has taken a few great whacks
and no problems.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:11 PM
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Not actually sure when I dented the oil pan, I think it was on a night
run on Raw Deal (upper), that is the only time I remember slipping
enough to do that. Got it good too. Luckily it didn't puncture and the
dent is on the side, so the oil is still picking up. Only noticed it
when I was putting on my steering box skid plate.
Brad wrote:
>Ha! I think the Rubicon owns me (or at least my wallet), not the
>other way around. :-) I was taking the scenic route to Jack in the
>Box!
>
>As far as your oil pan dent, you could tell them that due to a mfg
>defect the air intake got restricted causing excessive suction in
>the crankcase through the vent hose, thus causing the oil pan to
>partially implode...
>
>So how did you dent the pan? I know people dent them but
>when I look at mine it sure seems like it would be unlikely as
>high up as it is.
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Jeez Brad.
>>
>>Dents? And mud?
>>
>>You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that
>>
>>
>sort of
>
>
>>thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened,
>>
>>
>anyway?
>
>
>>Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I
>>
>>
>can
>
>
>>convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped
>>
>>
>manufacturing
>
>
>>defect in my oil pan?
>>
>>Brad wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
>>>
>>>
>picts
>
>
>>>of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
>>>thought. :)
>>>http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>>>
>>>Have a good day
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>>>
>>>
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
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89219 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:23pm
Subject: RE: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
I would never weld a skid to my oil pan. What do you think happens when
you hit the pan hard enough to crack a weld? Yep, you got it...the oil
runs out of the crack. A friend of mine did that once....never again.
There are good oil pan skids, such as the Tera (believe it or not), that
will do a very good job and you don't have to compromise your engine oil
in the process.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:20 PM
To: 'Kent Warner'
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Take your rig to Hunter Offroad and have John weld on a skid to your oil
pan... He can do it relatively inexpensively, quickly, and you'll get a
great deal more protection. John is so quick that there is relatively
little heat transferred to the oil. Mine has taken a few great whacks
and no problems.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:11 PM
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Not actually sure when I dented the oil pan, I think it was on a night
run on Raw Deal (upper), that is the only time I remember slipping
enough to do that. Got it good too. Luckily it didn't puncture and the
dent is on the side, so the oil is still picking up. Only noticed it
when I was putting on my steering box skid plate.
Brad wrote:
>Ha! I think the Rubicon owns me (or at least my wallet), not the
>other way around. :-) I was taking the scenic route to Jack in the
>Box!
>
>As far as your oil pan dent, you could tell them that due to a mfg
>defect the air intake got restricted causing excessive suction in
>the crankcase through the vent hose, thus causing the oil pan to
>partially implode...
>
>So how did you dent the pan? I know people dent them but
>when I look at mine it sure seems like it would be unlikely as
>high up as it is.
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Jeez Brad.
>>
>>Dents? And mud?
>>
>>You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that
>>
>>
>sort of
>
>
>>thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened,
>>
>>
>anyway?
>
>
>>Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I
>>
>>
>can
>
>
>>convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped
>>
>>
>manufacturing
>
>
>>defect in my oil pan?
>>
>>Brad wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
>>>
>>>
>picts
>
>
>>>of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
>>>thought. :)
>>>http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>>>
>>>Have a good day
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
>>>
>>>
>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
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89220 From: rvisokey <rvisokey@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:32pm
Subject: Coil Over Started???
What year did jeep start using coil over instead of leafs in the
Wrangler?
Thanks,
Rich
89221 From: jeff misischia <g4mannn@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:35pm
Subject: Re: Coil Over Started???
1997-------->TJ
--- rvisokey <rvisokey@y...> wrote:
> What year did jeep start using coil over instead of
> leafs in the
> Wrangler?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich
>
>
>
>
>
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89222 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:44pm
Subject: Re: Coil Over Started???
I didnt think Jeep even sold a jeep with coilovers!
Anthony
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89223 From: sharxjeep <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:03pm
Subject: CK 9:00 run meeting spot
Hello all, I was thinking that we all can meet at Dennys resturaunt
at I17 and Deer Valley at 7:30 sat. morning for breakfast then Jeep-a-
van to the trail from there, we can all chat and have some food to
start off a great day. Im looking for a head count to confirm the
number of Jeeps going so please respond to me off list.
Thank you and look forward to seeing you all Sat.
Sharky & The McNasty McWrangler
89224 From: sharxjeep <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:06pm
Subject: Re: CK 9:00 run meeting spot/correction
Actually it might be better if we meet there at 7:00 to assure
enough time to eat.
Sharky
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> Hello all, I was thinking that we all can meet at Dennys resturaunt
> at I17 and Deer Valley at 7:30 sat. morning for breakfast then Jeep-
a-
> van to the trail from there, we can all chat and have some food to
> start off a great day. Im looking for a head count to confirm the
> number of Jeeps going so please respond to me off list.
>
> Thank you and look forward to seeing you all Sat.
> Sharky & The McNasty McWrangler
89225 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:34pm
Subject: Coil Over Started???
Correct - no stock Jeep came with coil overs - coils yes...coil overs no.
89226 From: David Cole <lists@o...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:58pm
Subject: wheel spacers
Are wheel spacers legal in Arizona and would they pass a vehicle inspection?
I'm simply considering options. My XJ is sitting and 4.5" average and I want
to push the wheels out for more stability. I would like to keep my factory
wheels as they are aluminum, but are 16x7 with 5.25" backspacing. Steel
wheels would be an option, but are heavier. In general, how much heavier is
a steel wheel compared to an equivalent aluminum wheel?
David
89202 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:12pm
Subject: RE: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
Mr. Wishy Washy,
I completely understand. Good for you for holding out for that perfect
Jeep. You are a better man than I. If I was with out for this long I
might be too quick to buy.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott K [mailto:osmtj@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:10 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I didn't
sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive. After
the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep. It
had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was more
what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a great
Moab rig.
Scott K
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
>
>
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89203 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:14pm
Subject: Crown King Run
Since there doesn't appear to be any interest in the 1:30pm Crown King
run that I had listed I've decided to delete the run and go on a earlier
run. If anyone really wants to go at 1:30 send me an email and we can
work something out.
See you on Saturday at the saloon.
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
89204 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:35pm
Subject: Re: Crown King Update and reminder
Just noticed that northbound I17 will be closed a portion of this weekend.
Probably won't make any difference to most people. For what it is worth,
here is the notice from the DOT.
Saturday Aug 16th 11PM to Sunday Aug 17th 12PM
I17 Northbound closed Bell Rd to Pinnacle Peak to install lighting and
signage, use 19th or 35th Ave
John DeRuiter, WM7A
98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:44 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Crown King Update and reminder
> I posted this before and promised to post it again. At this point we have
> 104 Jeeps signed up after counting the numbers in each trip. PLEASE BE ON
> TIME we have a large group to keep any kind of schedule. Expect your group
> to leave AT the time posted for the run.
> I hope everyone has a great trip and I look forward to meeting everyone in
> Crown King. Have fun on the trip. Remember the trip leader and tail end
are
> there to help you, but they are also along to enjoy the run. Be nice to
them
> with such large groups even the best trip leader and tail end will look
very
> unorganized See you in Crown King.
> Jim F. aka Hackle
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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89205 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:55pm
Subject: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
thought. :)
http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
Have a good day
Brad
89206 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:05pm
Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
A search on 4wd.com for wheel bearings shows a schematic which will
help you...
http://www.4wd.com/shopwrangler/DisplayProduct.asp?ProductSKU=5356675
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
89207 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:14pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and paint :-)
John DeRuiter, WM7A
98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> thought. :)
> http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>
> Have a good day
> Brad
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
89208 From: Scott K <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:16pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
I think its just plain sick that Brad even washes it ;)
Scott K
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...> wrote:
> Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
paint :-)
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
>
> > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > thought. :)
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> > Have a good day
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
89209 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:25pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
And probably would have lasted just as long, considering the
loose nut behind the wheel? :-)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
wrote:
> Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
paint :-)
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
>
> > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
picts
> > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > thought. :)
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> > Have a good day
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
89210 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:54pm
Subject: RE: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
A postal Jeep ?!!!!
I WON , I WON , I WON , I GUESSED IT RIGHT !!!!
Wait , I didn't ?
Bummer ....
Purple .
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott K [mailto:osmtj@y...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:05 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
Those that have been around here for the last 5 years know that I
originally had a YJ when the club was formed and replaced that with
a TJ in February of '99. I sold the TJ in June and have been having
a serious case of withdrawal for the past 2 months. :(
I finally came across the perfect Jeep to take up to Montana with me
(our house closes this week and we leave for good Sept 2nd). I feel
like I'm getting a great deal on it. I've got Theresa's stamp of
approval so I'm picking it up tomorrow. The first mod will be to
slap on a club sticker :)
Anybody want to take a W.A.G. as to what my 3rd Jeep will be? I'll
post a pic tomorrow and some details. (Joey K, Mark B, & Stu O -
DON'T SPILL THE BEANS!)
We can baptize it into the club at the anniversary run to CK. I feel
like a kid again! :D
Scott K
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89211 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 7:44pm
Subject: RE: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Hey...there is nothing wrong with washing you TJ...and certainly nothing
wrong with washing the engine either! LOL
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Scott K [mailto:osmtj@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:17 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
I think its just plain sick that Brad even washes it ;)
Scott K
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...> wrote:
> Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
paint :-)
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
>
> > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > thought. :)
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> > Have a good day
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
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89212 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:26pm
Subject: RE: trailers
Equipment Trader ( auto trader publications ) is a good place to look . New
and used featured here . There is a trailer sales place on 19 th ave north
of Mountain View that sells new ones for around $1400 .
Hope this helps ,
Purple .
-----Original Message-----
From: jpcralweram [mailto:jpcrawleram@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 8:50 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] trailers
Im looking for a trailer for my jeep. Proabably a 16ft, duel axle
with atleast one set of brakes.
does anyone know of a good "cheap" place to pick one up. Any place in
the valley that sells used ones.
thanks
Andrew
93yj
jpcrawleram@a...
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89213 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:21pm
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
nevermind, I dont know what I was thinking when I posted this... been
to long since Ive had a 30 :p
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...> wrote:
> Maybe they are talking about the bearings inside?? Otherwise I dont
> see how it could wear out as Jim said.
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> > I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
> the tie rod
> > hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
> believe
> > the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
> highly doubt
> > the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
> one. Jim F.
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
> Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> >
> >
> > A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was
told
> > that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> > meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> > I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> > Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
> >
> > Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> > non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> > bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
89214 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:47pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Jeez Brad.
Dents? And mud?
You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that sort of
thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened, anyway?
Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I can
convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped manufacturing
defect in my oil pan?
Brad wrote:
>Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
>of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
>thought. :)
>http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>
>Have a good day
>Brad
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
89215 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 8:56pm
Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Ha! I think the Rubicon owns me (or at least my wallet), not the
other way around. :-) I was taking the scenic route to Jack in the
Box!
As far as your oil pan dent, you could tell them that due to a mfg
defect the air intake got restricted causing excessive suction in
the crankcase through the vent hose, thus causing the oil pan to
partially implode...
So how did you dent the pan? I know people dent them but
when I look at mine it sure seems like it would be unlikely as
high up as it is.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
wrote:
> Jeez Brad.
>
> Dents? And mud?
>
> You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that
sort of
> thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened,
anyway?
>
> Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I
can
> convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped
manufacturing
> defect in my oil pan?
>
> Brad wrote:
>
> >Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
picts
> >of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> >thought. :)
> >http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> >Have a good day
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
89216 From: John Kuklinski <jkuklinski@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:08pm
Subject: Re:Re arch
I work at National Spring in Santee, Ca. we provide custom springs or can re
arch and add a leaf for most every vehicle. The add a leaf and re arch works
for most of the customers who are looking to either bring the vehicle back
to stock height a 1 to 2 inch lift. When re arching the springs it is
important to add the full leaf to the spring pack to keep the arch and for
additional weight caring capacity (i.e.. boats, trailers, bikes). Depending
on how the vehicle is driven or abused, the springs will keep the new arch
for quite a while. It usually depends on the customer's budget and what they
will be using the vehicle for that determines whether they purchase the
custom springs or have their existing springs reworked.
John
----- Original Message -----
From: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Digest Number 3872
> There are 25 messages in this issue.
>
> Topics in this digest:
>
> 1. Re: Fuel Tank disposal
> From: "Steve G." <glock45x@n...>
> 2. Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
> From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
> 3. YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> 4. RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> 5. Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...>
> 6. Re: YJ Dana 30 knucklesr
> From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> 7. Re: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
> From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
> 8. Crown King Update and reminder
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> 9. Re: Opinions Wanted - Spring Re-arch?
> From: "G.R. Holmes" <niitoyis@w...>
> 10. Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: "Scott K" <osmtj@y...>
> 11. Re: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: dzrtoffroad@a...
> 12. Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: "Mark" <fordlover49@y...>
> 13. RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "Rick Norman" <4x4xfun1@c...>
> 14. Fwd: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: dzrtoffroad@a...
> 15. Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...>
> 16. RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> 17. RE: Members Area Pictures
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> 18. RE: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> 19. Crown King Run
> From: "Leonard K. Pennock" <leonardpennock@c...>
> 20. Re: Crown King Update and reminder
> From: "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> 21. Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> 22. Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
> From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
> 23. Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> From: "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> 24. Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> From: "Scott K" <osmtj@y...>
> 25. Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:45:02 -0000
> From: "Steve G." <glock45x@n...>
> Subject: Re: Fuel Tank disposal
>
> I think you had better call them and get a straight answer, they would
> not take mine.
>
> Steve
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
> >
> > I guess I should have said, I have one that is plastic and one that
> > is metal.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave King" <daveaz@a...> wrote:
> > > unless they are plastic....then, I am not sure...
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave King" <daveaz@a...> wrote:
> > > > take them to the scrap metal yard on 35th ave and the river
> > > bottom..I
> > > > know they will take them and pay you for it...:-)
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > I think this has been covered, but I forgot.
> > > > > I have 2 fuel tanks I need to dispose of, where do I do this?
> > > They
> > > > are empty
> > > > > and relatively fume free.
> > > > >
> > > > > --James
>
>
>
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> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 21:45:48 -0000
> From: "Linda" <minihummer@w...>
> Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
>
> I bought two really large spindle nut sockets from Jay's Auto Parts
> (Main, east of Dobson). They had them in stock.
>
> Surprisingly, Darner can get old Dana axle parts and old Dodge truck
> parts, but not u-joints for closed knuckle D70s. I have also had good
> luck with Reith Auto Parts (CarQuest).
>
> Linda
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> > You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
> > Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
> > >
> > > I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> > > getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> > > adjusted correctly.
> > >
> > > These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> > > outside:
> > >
> > > outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
> > >
> > >
> > > This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
> > >
> > > outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
> > >
> > > Can anyone confirm this?
> > >
> > > Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> > > inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley?
> Or
> > > do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the
> big
> > > nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
> > anything
> > > that big and neither does Sears.
> > >
> > > tnx
> > >
> > > Joe Larkin
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
> > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
>
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:31:08 -0700
> From: "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> Subject: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:00:50 -0700
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or the tie rod
> hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would believe
> the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I highly doubt
> the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out one. Jim
F.
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:36:33 -0000
> From: "jeepin_in_az" <jeepin_in_az@y...>
> Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> Also for an FYI, the outer knuckles are the same from a YJ to a TJ.
> Look in junk yards for them, but they are not too cheap. About $100
> a pair, unless you find someone you know that will give you a deal.
> I "think" 4 Wheelers has some, but have him call Barry.
>
>
> Mike Baney
>
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> > I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
> the tie rod
> > hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
> believe
> > the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
> highly doubt
> > the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
> one. Jim F.
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
> Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> >
> >
> > A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> > that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> > meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> > I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> > Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
> >
> > Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> > non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> > bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 23:37:18 -0000
> From: "Scott Maiden" <bermboy@h...>
> Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> Maybe they are talking about the bearings inside?? Otherwise I dont
> see how it could wear out as Jim said.
>
> Scott Maiden
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> > I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
> the tie rod
> > hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
> believe
> > the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
> highly doubt
> > the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
> one. Jim F.
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
> Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> >
> >
> > A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> > that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> > meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> > I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> > Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
> >
> > Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> > non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> > bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
> __________________________________________________ ______________________
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:34:43 -0700
> From: "Bill Hooven" <whooven@c...>
> Subject: Re: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
>
> I've got the spindle nut socket (2- 1/16" bearing locknut socket) if you'd
> like to borrow it (I'm in Chandler - Elliot and Alma School). I bought
mine
> from Four Wheel Drive Hardware for $9.95 with free shipping. Here is a
link
> if you want to buy it from them:
>
> http://www.4wd.com/Shop4wd/ProductDetail.asp?ProductSku=A692N
>
> I had to have one also for my M416 trailer which uses the old CJ hubs as
> well.
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>
> --------------
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> http://www.jeepsonly.com
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> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:25 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
>
>
> > You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
> > Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
> > >
> > > I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> > > getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> > > adjusted correctly.
> > >
> > > These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> > > outside:
> > >
> > > outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
> > >
> > >
> > > This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
> > >
> > > outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
> > >
> > > Can anyone confirm this?
> > >
> > > Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> > > inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
> > > do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
> > > nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
> > anything
> > > that big and neither does Sears.
> > >
> > > tnx
> > >
> > > Joe Larkin
> > >
> > > __________________________________
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
> > > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 16:44:16 -0700
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> Subject: Crown King Update and reminder
>
> I posted this before and promised to post it again. At this point we have
> 104 Jeeps signed up after counting the numbers in each trip. PLEASE BE ON
> TIME we have a large group to keep any kind of schedule. Expect your group
> to leave AT the time posted for the run.
> I hope everyone has a great trip and I look forward to meeting everyone in
> Crown King. Have fun on the trip. Remember the trip leader and tail end
are
> there to help you, but they are also along to enjoy the run. Be nice to
them
> with such large groups even the best trip leader and tail end will look
very
> unorganized See you in Crown King.
> Jim F. aka Hackle
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:00:04 -0700
> From: "G.R. Holmes" <niitoyis@w...>
> Subject: Re: Opinions Wanted - Spring Re-arch?
>
> Thanks for the come-back John. I haven't got a pricing on the re-arch
> scenario yet but a set of the 6" springs from Rusty's will be $299.
> Part of my dilemma is that I am not exactly sure where the rear will
> end up after the shackle reversal. Todd (the FSJ friend making the
> parts says 6-7" of lift plus I gain additional height with the Revolvers
> over the stock shackle). Maybe just getting the rear installed and then
> going to a spring shop and having them make a custom spring for the
> front to bring it up to height keeping in mind the front revolvers and
> the 10,500 winch, tow bar, etc would be the smart move. Anyone need a
> set of 4" lift Full SIze Jeep Springs?
>
> I'm going to broadcast this e-mail to the club also. It looks like
> re-arching the springs is a bad idea so that is out but on another note,
> the following:
>
> In doing the wiring for the Mobi-Arc (Thanks again Brad) it became
> apparent I would need to shorten the #4 cables for the Alternator,
> Ground and Battery. Not one to do things Half-***** I purchased a crimper
> for the larger size cables up to #2. Not being a very cheap tool I
> would like to see it put to use so anyone who is shortening or
> replacing/relocating cables for their battery(s) or winch, give me a
> buzz and you can borrow the crimpers and save yourself over $200 or the
> headache of having someone else do it and do the job right.
>
> Gary Holmes
>
> HUNTEROFFROAD@a... wrote:
>
> > Gary,
> > I would have to throw my opinon in against it. Usually rearched
> > springs are much stiffer and they will sag again. And since you use
> > your Cow quite a bit, the added trail use will cause them to fail
> > sooner. Ussually it seems they last a year or two. But it could be
> > a good idea for the time being unitl you can get custom springs made.
> > I know re-arching is quite a bit cheaper. Hope that helps...
> >
> > Other than that, I hope everythign is fine with you and your
> > family. Take care.
> >
> > John k
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:10:26 -0000
> From: "Scott K" <osmtj@y...>
> Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
> this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I didn't
> sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive. After
> the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep. It
> had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was more
> what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
> year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
> could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
>
> So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
> absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
> don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a great
> Moab rig.
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> > is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:25:47 EDT
> From: dzrtoffroad@a...
> Subject: Re: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> In a message dated 8/13/03 5:12:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> osmtj@y... writes:
>
>
> > <A HREF="mailto:osmtj@y...">osmtj@y...</A>
> > To:<A HREF="mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com">az_vjc@yahoogroups.com</A>
> >
>
>
> you mean
>
> YJ
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 00:30:32 -0000
> From: "Mark" <fordlover49@y...>
> Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> Yeah, after we drove around and looked at 5 or 6 jeeps guess what
> Scott discovered? You can't buy a perfect jeep for 3 grand. big
> surprise eh Scott ? Personally I think that Xj was a pretty good
> deal ... :P
>
> -Mark B.
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott K" <osmtj@y...> wrote:
> > It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
> > this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I
> didn't
> > sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive.
> After
> > the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep.
> It
> > had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was
> more
> > what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
> > year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
> > could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
> >
> > So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
> > absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
> > don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a
> great
> > Moab rig.
> >
> > Scott K
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> > > is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:30:23 -0700
> From: "Rick Norman" <4x4xfun1@c...>
> Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> How about the slides where the brake pads ride. Mine were very worn on a
> previous set of knuckles. The slides were very grooved and the brakes were
> acting funny. I actually replaced the knuckles, but I believe you can buy
a
> kit to cover the slides.
>
> Good luck. I have a pass. side knuckle I'd like to get rid of, If your
> looking to replace his.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 20:38:43 EDT
> From: dzrtoffroad@a...
> Subject: Fwd: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> In a message dated 8/13/03 5:31:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> fordlover49@y... writes:
>
>
> > <A HREF="mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com">az_vjc@yahoogroups.com</A>
> >
> YJ
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:01:22 -0700
> From: "FredTJ" <fredtj@c...>
> Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> If it has disk front brakes, the caliber sliders do wear and can wear a
> lot.. Mine ('98 TJ) already have a rather deep grove worn in both sides.
If
> I were not doing a WJ knuckle swap soon, I'ld be looking for a new pair of
> outer knuckles for the TJ.
>
>
> Best,
> Fred
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:00 PM
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> > I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or the tie rod
> > hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
believe
> > the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I highly
doubt
> > the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out one.
Jim
> F.
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> > To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> >
> >
> > A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> > that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> > meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> > I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> > Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
> >
> > Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> > non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> > bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
> >
> > TIA,
> > Roger
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
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> Message: 16
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:04:37 -0700
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
> I have a set of knuckles wearing out in the back yard if you want them
> or could use them.
>
> Joey K
> http://www.desertjeep.com
> 93YJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told that
> his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they meant the
> ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles. I didn't think the
> knuckles themselves encountered any wear. Anyone have an idea what the
> dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3 bolts from the
> back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 17
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:08:41 -0700
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> Subject: RE: Members Area Pictures
>
> Welcome Justin,
>
> To add picture next to your name just add the picture to your gallery
> then in your gallery you will be able to link the image to your Jeep.
> I believe your picture should be under 100K in size.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> Joey K
> http://www.desertjeep.com
> 93YJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Pitcairn [mailto:jpitcairn@c...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:45 AM
> To: AZVJC
> Subject: [az_vjc] Members Area Pictures
>
>
> Hello All,
> New to the list. I was trying to update my members area information
> and noticed that a lot of you have your Jeep pictured next to your name
> and vehicle. Will someone please tell me how to do this. Oh, I guess I
> should introduce myself. My name is Justin Pitcairn and I just picked
> up my third Jeep, a 2003 Wrangler Rubicon. Check the members board for
> all the modifications so far and a few pictures of it on Trail 42. I am
> look forward to meeting some of you on the up coming Crown King Run.
>
> Thanks Again
>
> Justin Pitcairn
> 2003 White Wrangler Rubicon
> jpitcairn@c...
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
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> Message: 18
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:12:59 -0700
> From: "DesertJeep" <joey@d...>
> Subject: RE: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
> Mr. Wishy Washy,
>
> I completely understand. Good for you for holding out for that perfect
> Jeep. You are a better man than I. If I was with out for this long I
> might be too quick to buy.
>
> Joey K
> http://www.desertjeep.com
> 93YJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott K [mailto:osmtj@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 5:10 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
>
>
> It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
> this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I didn't
> sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive. After
> the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep. It
> had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was more
> what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
> year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
> could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
>
> So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
> absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
> don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a great
> Moab rig.
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> > is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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> Message: 19
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:14:20 -0700
> From: "Leonard K. Pennock" <leonardpennock@c...>
> Subject: Crown King Run
>
> Since there doesn't appear to be any interest in the 1:30pm Crown King
> run that I had listed I've decided to delete the run and go on a earlier
> run. If anyone really wants to go at 1:30 send me an email and we can
> work something out.
>
> See you on Saturday at the saloon.
>
> --
> Leonard K. Pennock
>
> Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
> find that they very rarely lose or fail.
>
>
>
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> Message: 20
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 18:35:05 -0700
> From: "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> Subject: Re: Crown King Update and reminder
>
> Just noticed that northbound I17 will be closed a portion of this weekend.
> Probably won't make any difference to most people. For what it is worth,
> here is the notice from the DOT.
>
> Saturday Aug 16th 11PM to Sunday Aug 17th 12PM
> I17 Northbound closed Bell Rd to Pinnacle Peak to install lighting and
> signage, use 19th or 35th Ave
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
>
> From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
> To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:44 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Crown King Update and reminder
>
>
> > I posted this before and promised to post it again. At this point we
have
> > 104 Jeeps signed up after counting the numbers in each trip. PLEASE BE
ON
> > TIME we have a large group to keep any kind of schedule. Expect your
group
> > to leave AT the time posted for the run.
> > I hope everyone has a great trip and I look forward to meeting everyone
in
> > Crown King. Have fun on the trip. Remember the trip leader and tail end
> are
> > there to help you, but they are also along to enjoy the run. Be nice to
> them
> > with such large groups even the best trip leader and tail end will look
> very
> > unorganized See you in Crown King.
> > Jim F. aka Hackle
> >
> > "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> > Marx
> > Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> > http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 01:55:23 -0000
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> Subject: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
> Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> thought. :)
> http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>
> Have a good day
> Brad
>
>
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:05:10 -0000
> From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
> Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
>
> A search on 4wd.com for wheel bearings shows a schematic which will
> help you...
>
> http://www.4wd.com/shopwrangler/DisplayProduct.asp?ProductSKU=5356675
>
> Matt
> K7MTO
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 23
> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 19:14:45 -0700
> From: "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
> Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and paint :-)
>
> John DeRuiter, WM7A
> 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
>
> > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > thought. :)
> > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> >
> > Have a good day
> > Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
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> Message: 24
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:16:40 -0000
> From: "Scott K" <osmtj@y...>
> Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
> I think its just plain sick that Brad even washes it ;)
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...> wrote:
> > Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
> paint :-)
> >
> > John DeRuiter, WM7A
> > 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> >
> >
> > > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple picts
> > > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > > thought. :)
> > > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> > >
> > > Have a good day
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Message: 25
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 02:25:50 -0000
> From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> Subject: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
>
> And probably would have lasted just as long, considering the
> loose nut behind the wheel? :-)
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "John DeRuiter" <wm7a@m...>
> wrote:
> > Should of just left the mud on it. Cheaper than body work and
> paint :-)
> >
> > John DeRuiter, WM7A
> > 98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Brad" <a292@a...>
> > To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 6:55 PM
> > Subject: [az_vjc] Hey Scott, here's the picture...
> >
> >
> > > Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
> picts
> > > of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
> > > thought. :)
> > > http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
> > >
> > > Have a good day
> > > Brad
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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89217 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:11pm
Subject: Re: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Not actually sure when I dented the oil pan, I think it was on a night
run on Raw Deal (upper), that is the only time I remember slipping
enough to do that. Got it good too. Luckily it didn't puncture and the
dent is on the side, so the oil is still picking up. Only noticed it
when I was putting on my steering box skid plate.
Brad wrote:
>Ha! I think the Rubicon owns me (or at least my wallet), not the
>other way around. :-) I was taking the scenic route to Jack in the
>Box!
>
>As far as your oil pan dent, you could tell them that due to a mfg
>defect the air intake got restricted causing excessive suction in
>the crankcase through the vent hose, thus causing the oil pan to
>partially implode...
>
>So how did you dent the pan? I know people dent them but
>when I look at mine it sure seems like it would be unlikely as
>high up as it is.
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Jeez Brad.
>>
>>Dents? And mud?
>>
>>You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that
>>
>>
>sort of
>
>
>>thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened,
>>
>>
>anyway?
>
>
>>Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I
>>
>>
>can
>
>
>>convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped
>>
>>
>manufacturing
>
>
>>defect in my oil pan?
>>
>>Brad wrote:
>>
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>>>thought. :)
>>>http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
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>>>Brad
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89218 From: Joe West <arizonajeep@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:19pm
Subject: RE: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Take your rig to Hunter Offroad and have John weld on a skid to your oil
pan... He can do it relatively inexpensively, quickly, and you'll get a
great deal more protection. John is so quick that there is relatively
little heat transferred to the oil. Mine has taken a few great whacks
and no problems.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:11 PM
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Not actually sure when I dented the oil pan, I think it was on a night
run on Raw Deal (upper), that is the only time I remember slipping
enough to do that. Got it good too. Luckily it didn't puncture and the
dent is on the side, so the oil is still picking up. Only noticed it
when I was putting on my steering box skid plate.
Brad wrote:
>Ha! I think the Rubicon owns me (or at least my wallet), not the
>other way around. :-) I was taking the scenic route to Jack in the
>Box!
>
>As far as your oil pan dent, you could tell them that due to a mfg
>defect the air intake got restricted causing excessive suction in
>the crankcase through the vent hose, thus causing the oil pan to
>partially implode...
>
>So how did you dent the pan? I know people dent them but
>when I look at mine it sure seems like it would be unlikely as
>high up as it is.
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Jeez Brad.
>>
>>Dents? And mud?
>>
>>You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that
>>
>>
>sort of
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>>thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened,
>>
>>
>anyway?
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>>Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I
>>
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>can
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>>convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped
>>
>>
>manufacturing
>
>
>>defect in my oil pan?
>>
>>Brad wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
>>>
>>>
>picts
>
>
>>>of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
>>>thought. :)
>>>http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>>>
>>>Have a good day
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>
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89219 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:23pm
Subject: RE: Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
I would never weld a skid to my oil pan. What do you think happens when
you hit the pan hard enough to crack a weld? Yep, you got it...the oil
runs out of the crack. A friend of mine did that once....never again.
There are good oil pan skids, such as the Tera (believe it or not), that
will do a very good job and you don't have to compromise your engine oil
in the process.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:arizonajeep@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:20 PM
To: 'Kent Warner'
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Take your rig to Hunter Offroad and have John weld on a skid to your oil
pan... He can do it relatively inexpensively, quickly, and you'll get a
great deal more protection. John is so quick that there is relatively
little heat transferred to the oil. Mine has taken a few great whacks
and no problems.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Kent Warner [mailto:KnetAZ@q...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:11 PM
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Hey Scott, here's the picture...
Not actually sure when I dented the oil pan, I think it was on a night
run on Raw Deal (upper), that is the only time I remember slipping
enough to do that. Got it good too. Luckily it didn't puncture and the
dent is on the side, so the oil is still picking up. Only noticed it
when I was putting on my steering box skid plate.
Brad wrote:
>Ha! I think the Rubicon owns me (or at least my wallet), not the
>other way around. :-) I was taking the scenic route to Jack in the
>Box!
>
>As far as your oil pan dent, you could tell them that due to a mfg
>defect the air intake got restricted causing excessive suction in
>the crankcase through the vent hose, thus causing the oil pan to
>partially implode...
>
>So how did you dent the pan? I know people dent them but
>when I look at mine it sure seems like it would be unlikely as
>high up as it is.
>
>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>Jeez Brad.
>>
>>Dents? And mud?
>>
>>You are going to ruin the Rubicon owners reputation with that
>>
>>
>sort of
>
>
>>thing. What the heck mall was that where that happened,
>>
>>
>anyway?
>
>
>>Actually you should see my oil pan, you'ld be proud. Think I
>>
>>
>can
>
>
>>convince the Service Manager that there is a rock shaped
>>
>>
>manufacturing
>
>
>>defect in my oil pan?
>>
>>Brad wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Here's a picture of the dent in my hood along with a couple
>>>
>>>
>picts
>
>
>>>of my first attempt to hide the damage. Worked pretty well I
>>>thought. :)
>>>http://community.webshots.com/album/85615496aFJyAC
>>>
>>>Have a good day
>>>Brad
>>>
>>>
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89220 From: rvisokey <rvisokey@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:32pm
Subject: Coil Over Started???
What year did jeep start using coil over instead of leafs in the
Wrangler?
Thanks,
Rich
89221 From: jeff misischia <g4mannn@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:35pm
Subject: Re: Coil Over Started???
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--- rvisokey <rvisokey@y...> wrote:
> What year did jeep start using coil over instead of
> leafs in the
> Wrangler?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rich
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89222 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:44pm
Subject: Re: Coil Over Started???
I didnt think Jeep even sold a jeep with coilovers!
Anthony
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89223 From: sharxjeep <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:03pm
Subject: CK 9:00 run meeting spot
Hello all, I was thinking that we all can meet at Dennys resturaunt
at I17 and Deer Valley at 7:30 sat. morning for breakfast then Jeep-a-
van to the trail from there, we can all chat and have some food to
start off a great day. Im looking for a head count to confirm the
number of Jeeps going so please respond to me off list.
Thank you and look forward to seeing you all Sat.
Sharky & The McNasty McWrangler
89224 From: sharxjeep <sharxjeep@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:06pm
Subject: Re: CK 9:00 run meeting spot/correction
Actually it might be better if we meet there at 7:00 to assure
enough time to eat.
Sharky
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "sharxjeep" <sharxjeep@c...> wrote:
> Hello all, I was thinking that we all can meet at Dennys resturaunt
> at I17 and Deer Valley at 7:30 sat. morning for breakfast then Jeep-
a-
> van to the trail from there, we can all chat and have some food to
> start off a great day. Im looking for a head count to confirm the
> number of Jeeps going so please respond to me off list.
>
> Thank you and look forward to seeing you all Sat.
> Sharky & The McNasty McWrangler
89225 From: DougB <azjeep@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:34pm
Subject: Coil Over Started???
Correct - no stock Jeep came with coil overs - coils yes...coil overs no.
89226 From: David Cole <lists@o...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 10:58pm
Subject: wheel spacers
Are wheel spacers legal in Arizona and would they pass a vehicle inspection?
I'm simply considering options. My XJ is sitting and 4.5" average and I want
to push the wheels out for more stability. I would like to keep my factory
wheels as they are aluminum, but are 16x7 with 5.25" backspacing. Steel
wheels would be an option, but are heavier. In general, how much heavier is
a steel wheel compared to an equivalent aluminum wheel?
David