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89177 From: Justin Pitcairn <jpitcairn@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:45am
Subject: Members Area Pictures
Hello All,
New to the list. I was trying to update my members area information and noticed that a lot of you have your Jeep pictured next to your name and vehicle. Will someone please tell me how to do this. Oh, I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Justin Pitcairn and I just picked up my third Jeep, a 2003 Wrangler Rubicon. Check the members board for all the modifications so far and a few pictures of it on Trail 42. I am look forward to meeting some of you on the up coming Crown King Run.
Thanks Again
Justin Pitcairn
2003 White Wrangler Rubicon
jpitcairn@c...
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89178 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:27am
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
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89179 From: Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:07am
Subject: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
adjusted correctly.
These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
outside:
outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
Can anyone confirm this?
Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have anything
that big and neither does Sears.
tnx
Joe Larkin
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89180 From: Darren Richards <darren.richards@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:24am
Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
Joe,
You are correct. There should be a thicker, tabbed washer in between
the inner nut and the bearing. The fold-over lock washer is
specifically designed for this purpose, and is much thinner than a
standard washer. It's tabbed as well. I would try 4-wheelers for the
washers, nuts, and the socket. I haven't had to buy any of these since
I moved here, but my old jeep parts store back home had all these,
including the spindle nut socket, so I know they make 'em.
-darren
Joe Larkin wrote:
> How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
>
> I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> adjusted correctly.
>
> These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> outside:
>
> outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
>
>
> This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
>
> outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
>
> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
>
> Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
> do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
> nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have anything
> that big and neither does Sears.
>
> tnx
>
> Joe Larkin
>
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89181 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:42am
Subject: RE: Re: Good alignment shop
For what it is worth, I tried the Network Alignment at 67th Ave. and
Bethany.
I WAS TOTALLY NOT IMPRESSED!!!!!!!
They wanted over $100 for a front end alignment because they would have to
adjust my "custom" suspension (which at that time was some RE short arms).
This was back when I was a newbie so I paid them the money and found that
they screwed up the front pinion angle because they didn't have a clue about
caster vs. pinion for a lifted Jeep.
I drove it home, adjusted the front control arms myself, and was able to
obtain a ride where the front u-joint wasn't rattling my teeth out. Since
then, I've not paid anyone to align my Jeep....a few hours with the FSM and
some trial and error in my garage (such as putting on the Currie steering)
and I can now do my own caster and toe.
Maybe I just had an idiot for alignment tech at that shop, but I've never
spent any more time or money with them. Given the savvy alignment folks
that are in AZVJC that do it for a living, I couldn't see going to a generic
alignment shop to have your modified Jeep aligned.
Stu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Reid [mailto:mikdiamon@c...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:46 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Good alignment shop
>
>
> Network Alignment is great, check the phonebook theres several
> locations, we get a club discount, if i rember right its 49 bux, and
> it has a 6 month warranty (i took mine back after some steering work
> and they aligned it again for free. The one I go to is on 67th ave
> and bethany.
>
> TaD
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <khaw@n...> wrote:
> > Anyone recommend a good alignment shop? I've had my 87XJ into Big
> O
> > down here a couple times and it's still pulling to the right.
> > Thanks
> > Keith
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89182 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:47am
Subject: RE: Re: Good alignment shop
I had a similar experience with them. I went in for an alignment. Well they adjusted the toe and that was it. Then charged me $60.00. So basically when my jeep pulled, the steeting was straight! Pissed me off!!!
Stu Olson <solson8@q...> wrote:For what it is worth, I tried the Network Alignment at 67th Ave. and
Bethany.
I WAS TOTALLY NOT IMPRESSED!!!!!!!
They wanted over $100 for a front end alignment because they would have to
adjust my "custom" suspension (which at that time was some RE short arms).
This was back when I was a newbie so I paid them the money and found that
they screwed up the front pinion angle because they didn't have a clue about
caster vs. pinion for a lifted Jeep.
I drove it home, adjusted the front control arms myself, and was able to
obtain a ride where the front u-joint wasn't rattling my teeth out. Since
then, I've not paid anyone to align my Jeep....a few hours with the FSM and
some trial and error in my garage (such as putting on the Currie steering)
and I can now do my own caster and toe.
Maybe I just had an idiot for alignment tech at that shop, but I've never
spent any more time or money with them. Given the savvy alignment folks
that are in AZVJC that do it for a living, I couldn't see going to a generic
alignment shop to have your modified Jeep aligned.
Stu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Reid [mailto:mikdiamon@c...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:46 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Good alignment shop
>
>
> Network Alignment is great, check the phonebook theres several
> locations, we get a club discount, if i rember right its 49 bux, and
> it has a 6 month warranty (i took mine back after some steering work
> and they aligned it again for free. The one I go to is on 67th ave
> and bethany.
>
> TaD
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote:
> > Anyone recommend a good alignment shop? I've had my 87XJ into Big
> O
> > down here a couple times and it's still pulling to the right.
> > Thanks
> > Keith
> >
> >
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89183 From: Michael Beckham <jeepnut7261@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:53am
Subject: Re: Re: Good alignment shop
When I say I liked my service at the Big O on Bell (west Valley) remember, I had already adjusted my "custom" Teraflex arms to get my caster angle back, per Stu's suggestion. (you smart!).
ALWAYS learn as much as you can before allowing some stranger to handle the private parts of your beloved Jeep!
When they came back and told me they couldn't adjust whatever, cause there were no cam bolts (not since 99 Tj's) I already knew I was ok, just do the toe in please.
Education and buyer beware pays!
2000TJ 4" Teraflex 33's
other custom stuff
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Good alignment shop
For what it is worth, I tried the Network Alignment at 67th Ave. and
Bethany.
I WAS TOTALLY NOT IMPRESSED!!!!!!!
They wanted over $100 for a front end alignment because they would have to
adjust my "custom" suspension (which at that time was some RE short arms).
This was back when I was a newbie so I paid them the money and found that
they screwed up the front pinion angle because they didn't have a clue about
caster vs. pinion for a lifted Jeep.
I drove it home, adjusted the front control arms myself, and was able to
obtain a ride where the front u-joint wasn't rattling my teeth out. Since
then, I've not paid anyone to align my Jeep....a few hours with the FSM and
some trial and error in my garage (such as putting on the Currie steering)
and I can now do my own caster and toe.
Maybe I just had an idiot for alignment tech at that shop, but I've never
spent any more time or money with them. Given the savvy alignment folks
that are in AZVJC that do it for a living, I couldn't see going to a generic
alignment shop to have your modified Jeep aligned.
Stu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Reid [mailto:mikdiamon@c...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:46 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Good alignment shop
>
>
> Network Alignment is great, check the phonebook theres several
> locations, we get a club discount, if i rember right its 49 bux, and
> it has a 6 month warranty (i took mine back after some steering work
> and they aligned it again for free. The one I go to is on 67th ave
> and bethany.
>
> TaD
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <khaw@n...> wrote:
> > Anyone recommend a good alignment shop? I've had my 87XJ into Big
> O
> > down here a couple times and it's still pulling to the right.
> > Thanks
> > Keith
> >
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89184 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
>
> I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> adjusted correctly.
>
> These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> outside:
>
> outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
>
>
> This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
>
> outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
>
> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
>
> Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
> do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
> nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
anything
> that big and neither does Sears.
>
> tnx
>
> Joe Larkin
>
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89185 From: Steve G. <glock45x@n...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:45pm
Subject: Re: Fuel Tank disposal
I think you had better call them and get a straight answer, they would
not take mine.
Steve
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> I guess I should have said, I have one that is plastic and one that
> is metal.
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave King" <daveaz@a...> wrote:
> > unless they are plastic....then, I am not sure...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave King" <daveaz@a...> wrote:
> > > take them to the scrap metal yard on 35th ave and the river
> > bottom..I
> > > know they will take them and pay you for it...:-)
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> > wrote:
> > > > I think this has been covered, but I forgot.
> > > > I have 2 fuel tanks I need to dispose of, where do I do this?
> > They
> > > are empty
> > > > and relatively fume free.
> > > >
> > > > --James
89186 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:45pm
Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
I bought two really large spindle nut sockets from Jay's Auto Parts
(Main, east of Dobson). They had them in stock.
Surprisingly, Darner can get old Dana axle parts and old Dodge truck
parts, but not u-joints for closed knuckle D70s. I have also had good
luck with Reith Auto Parts (CarQuest).
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
> Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
> >
> > I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> > getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> > adjusted correctly.
> >
> > These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> > outside:
> >
> > outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
> >
> >
> > This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
> >
> > outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm this?
> >
> > Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> > inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
> >
> > Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley?
Or
> > do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the
big
> > nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
> anything
> > that big and neither does Sears.
> >
> > tnx
> >
> > Joe Larkin
> >
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89187 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:31pm
Subject: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
TIA,
Roger
89188 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:00pm
Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or the tie rod
hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would believe
the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I highly doubt
the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out one. Jim F.
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
TIA,
Roger
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89189 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:36pm
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
Also for an FYI, the outer knuckles are the same from a YJ to a TJ.
Look in junk yards for them, but they are not too cheap. About $100
a pair, unless you find someone you know that will give you a deal.
I "think" 4 Wheelers has some, but have him call Barry.
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
the tie rod
> hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
believe
> the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
highly doubt
> the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
one. Jim F.
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
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89190 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:37pm
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
Maybe they are talking about the bearings inside?? Otherwise I dont
see how it could wear out as Jim said.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
the tie rod
> hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
believe
> the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
highly doubt
> the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
one. Jim F.
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
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89191 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:34pm
Subject: Re: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
I've got the spindle nut socket (2- 1/16" bearing locknut socket) if you'd
like to borrow it (I'm in Chandler - Elliot and Alma School). I bought mine
from Four Wheel Drive Hardware for $9.95 with free shipping. Here is a link
if you want to buy it from them:
http://www.4wd.com/Shop4wd/ProductDetail.asp?ProductSku=A692N
I had to have one also for my M416 trailer which uses the old CJ hubs as
well.
Regards,
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
> You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
> Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
> >
> > I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> > getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> > adjusted correctly.
> >
> > These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> > outside:
> >
> > outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
> >
> >
> > This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
> >
> > outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm this?
> >
> > Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> > inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
> >
> > Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
> > do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
> > nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
> anything
> > that big and neither does Sears.
> >
> > tnx
> >
> > Joe Larkin
> >
> > __________________________________
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89192 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:44pm
Subject: Crown King Update and reminder
I posted this before and promised to post it again. At this point we have
104 Jeeps signed up after counting the numbers in each trip. PLEASE BE ON
TIME we have a large group to keep any kind of schedule. Expect your group
to leave AT the time posted for the run.
I hope everyone has a great trip and I look forward to meeting everyone in
Crown King. Have fun on the trip. Remember the trip leader and tail end are
there to help you, but they are also along to enjoy the run. Be nice to them
with such large groups even the best trip leader and tail end will look very
unorganized See you in Crown King.
Jim F. aka Hackle
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
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89193 From: G.R. Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:00pm
Subject: Re: Opinions Wanted - Spring Re-arch?
Thanks for the come-back John. I haven't got a pricing on the re-arch
scenario yet but a set of the 6" springs from Rusty's will be $299.
Part of my dilemma is that I am not exactly sure where the rear will
end up after the shackle reversal. Todd (the FSJ friend making the
parts says 6-7" of lift plus I gain additional height with the Revolvers
over the stock shackle). Maybe just getting the rear installed and then
going to a spring shop and having them make a custom spring for the
front to bring it up to height keeping in mind the front revolvers and
the 10,500 winch, tow bar, etc would be the smart move. Anyone need a
set of 4" lift Full SIze Jeep Springs?
I'm going to broadcast this e-mail to the club also. It looks like
re-arching the springs is a bad idea so that is out but on another note,
the following:
In doing the wiring for the Mobi-Arc (Thanks again Brad) it became
apparent I would need to shorten the #4 cables for the Alternator,
Ground and Battery. Not one to do things Half-***** I purchased a crimper
for the larger size cables up to #2. Not being a very cheap tool I
would like to see it put to use so anyone who is shortening or
replacing/relocating cables for their battery(s) or winch, give me a
buzz and you can borrow the crimpers and save yourself over $200 or the
headache of having someone else do it and do the job right.
Gary Holmes
HUNTEROFFROAD@a... wrote:
> Gary,
> I would have to throw my opinon in against it. Usually rearched
> springs are much stiffer and they will sag again. And since you use
> your Cow quite a bit, the added trail use will cause them to fail
> sooner. Ussually it seems they last a year or two. But it could be
> a good idea for the time being unitl you can get custom springs made.
> I know re-arching is quite a bit cheaper. Hope that helps...
>
> Other than that, I hope everythign is fine with you and your
> family. Take care.
>
> John k
>
>
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89194 From: Scott K <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:10pm
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I didn't
sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive. After
the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep. It
had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was more
what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a great
Moab rig.
Scott K
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
89195 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: Re: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
In a message dated 8/13/03 5:12:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
osmtj@y... writes:
> <A HREF="mailto:osmtj@y...">osmtj@y...</A>
> To:<A HREF="mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com">az_vjc@yahoogroups.com</A>
>
you mean
YJ
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89196 From: Mark <fordlover49@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:30pm
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
Yeah, after we drove around and looked at 5 or 6 jeeps guess what
Scott discovered? You can't buy a perfect jeep for 3 grand. big
surprise eh Scott ? Personally I think that Xj was a pretty good
deal ... :P
-Mark B.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott K" <osmtj@y...> wrote:
> It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
> this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I
didn't
> sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive.
After
> the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep.
It
> had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was
more
> what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
> year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
> could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
>
> So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
> absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
> don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a
great
> Moab rig.
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> > is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
89197 From: Rick Norman <4x4xfun1@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:30pm
Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
How about the slides where the brake pads ride. Mine were very worn on a
previous set of knuckles. The slides were very grooved and the brakes were
acting funny. I actually replaced the knuckles, but I believe you can buy a
kit to cover the slides.
Good luck. I have a pass. side knuckle I'd like to get rid of, If your
looking to replace his.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
TIA,
Roger
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89198 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:38pm
Subject: Fwd: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
In a message dated 8/13/03 5:31:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
fordlover49@y... writes:
> <A HREF="mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com">az_vjc@yahoogroups.com</A>
>
YJ
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89199 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:01pm
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
If it has disk front brakes, the caliber sliders do wear and can wear a
lot.. Mine ('98 TJ) already have a rather deep grove worn in both sides. If
I were not doing a WJ knuckle swap soon, I'ld be looking for a new pair of
outer knuckles for the TJ.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or the tie rod
> hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would believe
> the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I highly doubt
> the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out one. Jim
F.
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
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89200 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:04pm
Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
I have a set of knuckles wearing out in the back yard if you want them
or could use them.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told that
his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they meant the
ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles. I didn't think the
knuckles themselves encountered any wear. Anyone have an idea what the
dealer is talking about?
Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3 bolts from the
back side of the knuckle.
TIA,
Roger
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89201 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:08pm
Subject: RE: Members Area Pictures
Welcome Justin,
To add picture next to your name just add the picture to your gallery
then in your gallery you will be able to link the image to your Jeep.
I believe your picture should be under 100K in size.
Good luck.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Pitcairn [mailto:jpitcairn@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:45 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Members Area Pictures
Hello All,
New to the list. I was trying to update my members area information
and noticed that a lot of you have your Jeep pictured next to your name
and vehicle. Will someone please tell me how to do this. Oh, I guess I
should introduce myself. My name is Justin Pitcairn and I just picked
up my third Jeep, a 2003 Wrangler Rubicon. Check the members board for
all the modifications so far and a few pictures of it on Trail 42. I am
look forward to meeting some of you on the up coming Crown King Run.
Thanks Again
Justin Pitcairn
2003 White Wrangler Rubicon
jpitcairn@c...
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89177 From: Justin Pitcairn <jpitcairn@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 9:45am
Subject: Members Area Pictures
Hello All,
New to the list. I was trying to update my members area information and noticed that a lot of you have your Jeep pictured next to your name and vehicle. Will someone please tell me how to do this. Oh, I guess I should introduce myself. My name is Justin Pitcairn and I just picked up my third Jeep, a 2003 Wrangler Rubicon. Check the members board for all the modifications so far and a few pictures of it on Trail 42. I am look forward to meeting some of you on the up coming Crown King Run.
Thanks Again
Justin Pitcairn
2003 White Wrangler Rubicon
jpitcairn@c...
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89178 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:27am
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
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89179 From: Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:07am
Subject: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
adjusted correctly.
These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
outside:
outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
Can anyone confirm this?
Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have anything
that big and neither does Sears.
tnx
Joe Larkin
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89180 From: Darren Richards <darren.richards@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:24am
Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
Joe,
You are correct. There should be a thicker, tabbed washer in between
the inner nut and the bearing. The fold-over lock washer is
specifically designed for this purpose, and is much thinner than a
standard washer. It's tabbed as well. I would try 4-wheelers for the
washers, nuts, and the socket. I haven't had to buy any of these since
I moved here, but my old jeep parts store back home had all these,
including the spindle nut socket, so I know they make 'em.
-darren
Joe Larkin wrote:
> How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
>
> I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> adjusted correctly.
>
> These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> outside:
>
> outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
>
>
> This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
>
> outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
>
> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
>
> Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
> do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
> nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have anything
> that big and neither does Sears.
>
> tnx
>
> Joe Larkin
>
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89181 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:42am
Subject: RE: Re: Good alignment shop
For what it is worth, I tried the Network Alignment at 67th Ave. and
Bethany.
I WAS TOTALLY NOT IMPRESSED!!!!!!!
They wanted over $100 for a front end alignment because they would have to
adjust my "custom" suspension (which at that time was some RE short arms).
This was back when I was a newbie so I paid them the money and found that
they screwed up the front pinion angle because they didn't have a clue about
caster vs. pinion for a lifted Jeep.
I drove it home, adjusted the front control arms myself, and was able to
obtain a ride where the front u-joint wasn't rattling my teeth out. Since
then, I've not paid anyone to align my Jeep....a few hours with the FSM and
some trial and error in my garage (such as putting on the Currie steering)
and I can now do my own caster and toe.
Maybe I just had an idiot for alignment tech at that shop, but I've never
spent any more time or money with them. Given the savvy alignment folks
that are in AZVJC that do it for a living, I couldn't see going to a generic
alignment shop to have your modified Jeep aligned.
Stu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Reid [mailto:mikdiamon@c...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:46 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Good alignment shop
>
>
> Network Alignment is great, check the phonebook theres several
> locations, we get a club discount, if i rember right its 49 bux, and
> it has a 6 month warranty (i took mine back after some steering work
> and they aligned it again for free. The one I go to is on 67th ave
> and bethany.
>
> TaD
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <khaw@n...> wrote:
> > Anyone recommend a good alignment shop? I've had my 87XJ into Big
> O
> > down here a couple times and it's still pulling to the right.
> > Thanks
> > Keith
> >
> >
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89182 From: Jayke Thorpe <jeepboy_3@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:47am
Subject: RE: Re: Good alignment shop
I had a similar experience with them. I went in for an alignment. Well they adjusted the toe and that was it. Then charged me $60.00. So basically when my jeep pulled, the steeting was straight! Pissed me off!!!
Stu Olson <solson8@q...> wrote:For what it is worth, I tried the Network Alignment at 67th Ave. and
Bethany.
I WAS TOTALLY NOT IMPRESSED!!!!!!!
They wanted over $100 for a front end alignment because they would have to
adjust my "custom" suspension (which at that time was some RE short arms).
This was back when I was a newbie so I paid them the money and found that
they screwed up the front pinion angle because they didn't have a clue about
caster vs. pinion for a lifted Jeep.
I drove it home, adjusted the front control arms myself, and was able to
obtain a ride where the front u-joint wasn't rattling my teeth out. Since
then, I've not paid anyone to align my Jeep....a few hours with the FSM and
some trial and error in my garage (such as putting on the Currie steering)
and I can now do my own caster and toe.
Maybe I just had an idiot for alignment tech at that shop, but I've never
spent any more time or money with them. Given the savvy alignment folks
that are in AZVJC that do it for a living, I couldn't see going to a generic
alignment shop to have your modified Jeep aligned.
Stu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Reid [mailto:mikdiamon@c...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:46 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Good alignment shop
>
>
> Network Alignment is great, check the phonebook theres several
> locations, we get a club discount, if i rember right its 49 bux, and
> it has a 6 month warranty (i took mine back after some steering work
> and they aligned it again for free. The one I go to is on 67th ave
> and bethany.
>
> TaD
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" wrote:
> > Anyone recommend a good alignment shop? I've had my 87XJ into Big
> O
> > down here a couple times and it's still pulling to the right.
> > Thanks
> > Keith
> >
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89183 From: Michael Beckham <jeepnut7261@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 11:53am
Subject: Re: Re: Good alignment shop
When I say I liked my service at the Big O on Bell (west Valley) remember, I had already adjusted my "custom" Teraflex arms to get my caster angle back, per Stu's suggestion. (you smart!).
ALWAYS learn as much as you can before allowing some stranger to handle the private parts of your beloved Jeep!
When they came back and told me they couldn't adjust whatever, cause there were no cam bolts (not since 99 Tj's) I already knew I was ok, just do the toe in please.
Education and buyer beware pays!
2000TJ 4" Teraflex 33's
other custom stuff
----- Original Message -----
From: Stu Olson
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Good alignment shop
For what it is worth, I tried the Network Alignment at 67th Ave. and
Bethany.
I WAS TOTALLY NOT IMPRESSED!!!!!!!
They wanted over $100 for a front end alignment because they would have to
adjust my "custom" suspension (which at that time was some RE short arms).
This was back when I was a newbie so I paid them the money and found that
they screwed up the front pinion angle because they didn't have a clue about
caster vs. pinion for a lifted Jeep.
I drove it home, adjusted the front control arms myself, and was able to
obtain a ride where the front u-joint wasn't rattling my teeth out. Since
then, I've not paid anyone to align my Jeep....a few hours with the FSM and
some trial and error in my garage (such as putting on the Currie steering)
and I can now do my own caster and toe.
Maybe I just had an idiot for alignment tech at that shop, but I've never
spent any more time or money with them. Given the savvy alignment folks
that are in AZVJC that do it for a living, I couldn't see going to a generic
alignment shop to have your modified Jeep aligned.
Stu
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brandon Reid [mailto:mikdiamon@c...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 7:46 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Good alignment shop
>
>
> Network Alignment is great, check the phonebook theres several
> locations, we get a club discount, if i rember right its 49 bux, and
> it has a 6 month warranty (i took mine back after some steering work
> and they aligned it again for free. The one I go to is on 67th ave
> and bethany.
>
> TaD
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <khaw@n...> wrote:
> > Anyone recommend a good alignment shop? I've had my 87XJ into Big
> O
> > down here a couple times and it's still pulling to the right.
> > Thanks
> > Keith
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89184 From: tomas2691 <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
-Roger
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
>
> I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> adjusted correctly.
>
> These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> outside:
>
> outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
>
>
> This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
>
> outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
>
> Can anyone confirm this?
>
> Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
>
> Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
> do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
> nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
anything
> that big and neither does Sears.
>
> tnx
>
> Joe Larkin
>
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89185 From: Steve G. <glock45x@n...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:45pm
Subject: Re: Fuel Tank disposal
I think you had better call them and get a straight answer, they would
not take mine.
Steve
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
>
> I guess I should have said, I have one that is plastic and one that
> is metal.
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave King" <daveaz@a...> wrote:
> > unless they are plastic....then, I am not sure...
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave King" <daveaz@a...> wrote:
> > > take them to the scrap metal yard on 35th ave and the river
> > bottom..I
> > > know they will take them and pay you for it...:-)
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> > wrote:
> > > > I think this has been covered, but I forgot.
> > > > I have 2 fuel tanks I need to dispose of, where do I do this?
> > They
> > > are empty
> > > > and relatively fume free.
> > > >
> > > > --James
89186 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 2:45pm
Subject: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
I bought two really large spindle nut sockets from Jay's Auto Parts
(Main, east of Dobson). They had them in stock.
Surprisingly, Darner can get old Dana axle parts and old Dodge truck
parts, but not u-joints for closed knuckle D70s. I have also had good
luck with Reith Auto Parts (CarQuest).
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
> Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
> >
> > I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> > getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> > adjusted correctly.
> >
> > These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> > outside:
> >
> > outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
> >
> >
> > This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
> >
> > outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm this?
> >
> > Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> > inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
> >
> > Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley?
Or
> > do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the
big
> > nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
> anything
> > that big and neither does Sears.
> >
> > tnx
> >
> > Joe Larkin
> >
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89187 From: Roger Tomas <tomasr@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:31pm
Subject: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
TIA,
Roger
89188 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:00pm
Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or the tie rod
hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would believe
the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I highly doubt
the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out one. Jim F.
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
TIA,
Roger
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89189 From: jeepin_in_az <jeepin_in_az@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:36pm
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
Also for an FYI, the outer knuckles are the same from a YJ to a TJ.
Look in junk yards for them, but they are not too cheap. About $100
a pair, unless you find someone you know that will give you a deal.
I "think" 4 Wheelers has some, but have him call Barry.
Mike Baney
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
the tie rod
> hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
believe
> the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
highly doubt
> the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
one. Jim F.
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
89190 From: Scott Maiden <bermboy@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:37pm
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
Maybe they are talking about the bearings inside?? Otherwise I dont
see how it could wear out as Jim said.
Scott Maiden
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Hackle" <hackle@q...> wrote:
> I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or
the tie rod
> hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would
believe
> the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I
highly doubt
> the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out
one. Jim F.
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member"
Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
89191 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 3:34pm
Subject: Re: Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
I've got the spindle nut socket (2- 1/16" bearing locknut socket) if you'd
like to borrow it (I'm in Chandler - Elliot and Alma School). I bought mine
from Four Wheel Drive Hardware for $9.95 with free shipping. Here is a link
if you want to buy it from them:
http://www.4wd.com/Shop4wd/ProductDetail.asp?ProductSku=A692N
I had to have one also for my M416 trailer which uses the old CJ hubs as
well.
Regards,
Bill
--------------
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----- Original Message -----
From: "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:25 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: CJ Wheel Bearing Question
> You should be able to find spindle nut sockets at Checker and Pep
> Boys (don't know about Auto Zone).
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Joe Larkin <joeclarkin@y...> wrote:
> > How are CJ front axle wheel bearings retained?
> >
> > I've got CJ hubs and bearings on a utility trailer and they keep
> > getting loose. I think I don't have all the parts to keep them
> > adjusted correctly.
> >
> > These are setup with these parts in this order from inside to
> > outside:
> >
> > outer bearing/adjusting nut/washer with tab on inside/outer nut
> >
> >
> > This doesn't seem quite right to me. I think is should be:
> >
> > outer bearing/tabbed washer/inner nut/lock washer/outer nut.
> >
> > Can anyone confirm this?
> >
> > Is the lock washer is just an oversize washer with a tab on the
> > inside? Oversized so it can be bent over the outer nut?
> >
> > Does anyone know if these parts are available in the east valley? Or
> > do I need to get them via mail order? How about a socket for the big
> > nuts? The generic parts stores (checker/autozone) don't have
> anything
> > that big and neither does Sears.
> >
> > tnx
> >
> > Joe Larkin
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
> > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
89192 From: Hackle <hackle@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 4:44pm
Subject: Crown King Update and reminder
I posted this before and promised to post it again. At this point we have
104 Jeeps signed up after counting the numbers in each trip. PLEASE BE ON
TIME we have a large group to keep any kind of schedule. Expect your group
to leave AT the time posted for the run.
I hope everyone has a great trip and I look forward to meeting everyone in
Crown King. Have fun on the trip. Remember the trip leader and tail end are
there to help you, but they are also along to enjoy the run. Be nice to them
with such large groups even the best trip leader and tail end will look very
unorganized See you in Crown King.
Jim F. aka Hackle
"I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
Marx
Member of the original dirty half dozen.
http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
89193 From: G.R. Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:00pm
Subject: Re: Opinions Wanted - Spring Re-arch?
Thanks for the come-back John. I haven't got a pricing on the re-arch
scenario yet but a set of the 6" springs from Rusty's will be $299.
Part of my dilemma is that I am not exactly sure where the rear will
end up after the shackle reversal. Todd (the FSJ friend making the
parts says 6-7" of lift plus I gain additional height with the Revolvers
over the stock shackle). Maybe just getting the rear installed and then
going to a spring shop and having them make a custom spring for the
front to bring it up to height keeping in mind the front revolvers and
the 10,500 winch, tow bar, etc would be the smart move. Anyone need a
set of 4" lift Full SIze Jeep Springs?
I'm going to broadcast this e-mail to the club also. It looks like
re-arching the springs is a bad idea so that is out but on another note,
the following:
In doing the wiring for the Mobi-Arc (Thanks again Brad) it became
apparent I would need to shorten the #4 cables for the Alternator,
Ground and Battery. Not one to do things Half-***** I purchased a crimper
for the larger size cables up to #2. Not being a very cheap tool I
would like to see it put to use so anyone who is shortening or
replacing/relocating cables for their battery(s) or winch, give me a
buzz and you can borrow the crimpers and save yourself over $200 or the
headache of having someone else do it and do the job right.
Gary Holmes
HUNTEROFFROAD@a... wrote:
> Gary,
> I would have to throw my opinon in against it. Usually rearched
> springs are much stiffer and they will sag again. And since you use
> your Cow quite a bit, the added trail use will cause them to fail
> sooner. Ussually it seems they last a year or two. But it could be
> a good idea for the time being unitl you can get custom springs made.
> I know re-arching is quite a bit cheaper. Hope that helps...
>
> Other than that, I hope everythign is fine with you and your
> family. Take care.
>
> John k
>
>
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89194 From: Scott K <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:10pm
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I didn't
sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive. After
the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep. It
had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was more
what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a great
Moab rig.
Scott K
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
89195 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:25pm
Subject: Re: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
In a message dated 8/13/03 5:12:07 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
osmtj@y... writes:
> <A HREF="mailto:osmtj@y...">osmtj@y...</A>
> To:<A HREF="mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com">az_vjc@yahoogroups.com</A>
>
you mean
YJ
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89196 From: Mark <fordlover49@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:30pm
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
Yeah, after we drove around and looked at 5 or 6 jeeps guess what
Scott discovered? You can't buy a perfect jeep for 3 grand. big
surprise eh Scott ? Personally I think that Xj was a pretty good
deal ... :P
-Mark B.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott K" <osmtj@y...> wrote:
> It was a CJ7 and it seemed like a good deal last night. I went back
> this morning to pick it up and give it a second going over. I
didn't
> sleep well over the deal so I took it for a second test drive.
After
> the test drive I still felt uncertain about this particular Jeep.
It
> had an injected straight six but I was really thinking a V8 was
more
> what I wanted. Until I buy another house in Montana (which may be a
> year or more) and can do motor and axle swaps I just didn't think I
> could live with the straight six and 2.73 gears.
>
> So I'm continuing the search. I got so excited last night. There
> absolutely will be another Jeep. Whether its an XJ, Willys, or CJ I
> don't know. Leaning towards an XJ at the moment. It would be a
great
> Moab rig.
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, chaton602phx@a... wrote:
> > is it a jeep "BRUTE"?
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
89197 From: Rick Norman <4x4xfun1@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:30pm
Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
How about the slides where the brake pads ride. Mine were very worn on a
previous set of knuckles. The slides were very grooved and the brakes were
acting funny. I actually replaced the knuckles, but I believe you can buy a
kit to cover the slides.
Good luck. I have a pass. side knuckle I'd like to get rid of, If your
looking to replace his.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
TIA,
Roger
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89198 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:38pm
Subject: Fwd: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
In a message dated 8/13/03 5:31:33 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
fordlover49@y... writes:
> <A HREF="mailto:az_vjc@yahoogroups.com">az_vjc@yahoogroups.com</A>
>
YJ
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89199 From: FredTJ <fredtj@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 5:01pm
Subject: Re: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
If it has disk front brakes, the caliber sliders do wear and can wear a
lot.. Mine ('98 TJ) already have a rather deep grove worn in both sides. If
I were not doing a WJ knuckle swap soon, I'ld be looking for a new pair of
outer knuckles for the TJ.
Best,
Fred
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hackle" <hackle@q...>
To: "Az_Vjc" <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>; "Roger Tomas" <tomasr@a...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
> I guess the ball joint connection points could wallow out or the tie rod
> hole could do the same. But I would have to see it before I would believe
> the dealer and know it was my knuckle they were showing me. I highly doubt
> the knuckle is shot! I have seen them break but never a worn out one. Jim
F.
>
> "I refuse to belong to any group that would have me as a member" Groucho
> Marx
> Member of the original dirty half dozen.
> http://www.users.qwest.net/~jkflorence/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
>
>
> A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told
> that his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they
> meant the ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles.
> I didn't think the knuckles themselves encountered any wear.
> Anyone have an idea what the dealer is talking about?
>
> Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
> non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3
> bolts from the back side of the knuckle.
>
> TIA,
> Roger
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
89200 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:04pm
Subject: RE: YJ Dana 30 knuckles
I have a set of knuckles wearing out in the back yard if you want them
or could use them.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Tomas [mailto:tomasr@a...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 3:31 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] YJ Dana 30 knuckles
A friend took his YJ into the Jeep dealer for service. He was told that
his steering knuckles are starting to wear. He asked if they meant the
ball joints and they said they meant the knuckles. I didn't think the
knuckles themselves encountered any wear. Anyone have an idea what the
dealer is talking about?
Again this is a YJ with Dana 30 front end and those have the
non-serviceable bearing hub assembly that attaches with 3 bolts from the
back side of the knuckle.
TIA,
Roger
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89201 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 13, 2003 6:08pm
Subject: RE: Members Area Pictures
Welcome Justin,
To add picture next to your name just add the picture to your gallery
then in your gallery you will be able to link the image to your Jeep.
I believe your picture should be under 100K in size.
Good luck.
Joey K
http://www.desertjeep.com
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Pitcairn [mailto:jpitcairn@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:45 AM
To: AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Members Area Pictures
Hello All,
New to the list. I was trying to update my members area information
and noticed that a lot of you have your Jeep pictured next to your name
and vehicle. Will someone please tell me how to do this. Oh, I guess I
should introduce myself. My name is Justin Pitcairn and I just picked
up my third Jeep, a 2003 Wrangler Rubicon. Check the members board for
all the modifications so far and a few pictures of it on Trail 42. I am
look forward to meeting some of you on the up coming Crown King Run.
Thanks Again
Justin Pitcairn
2003 White Wrangler Rubicon
jpitcairn@c...
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