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89127 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:59am
Subject: RE: Re: The coves were disgusting
No.......... Arizona has one OHV Fee Area and that's the Safford Hot Well
Dunes Recreation area. There are a number of BLM Camp grounds, boat ramps
and hiking trails that are Fee but no OHV............... yet. Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave King [mailto:daveaz@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:53 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
>
>
> I don't think I have ever been to this area, do you have to pay a fee
> to go there?
>
> Dave
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> > Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters'
> mess
> > then the boaters will continue littering.
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
> > > boating group through the docks and let them know they must
> > > join in and "respect our lands".....
>
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89128 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:47am
Subject: Pyeatt video
Gregs got about 20 min of video from the trip that he is going to burn me a
CD of. I can make copies if anyone else wants one. :)
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Gavel, Greg" <Greg.Gavel@i...>
>To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...>
>Subject: RE: XJs on Pyeatt?
>Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:56:58 -0700
>
>I downloaded the video last night. I edited it into different clips and
>then thought I saved it. Now I can't find the clips but only the
>continuous 20+ minute video stream. This was my first time downloading
>digital video and I am so far from a software guru it's pathetic.
>
>I'll try some more tonight maybe. If I can't get it edited I'll just burn
>a DVD and send you the whole thing.
>
>It was also my wife's first run on the camera out wheeling and she was
>simultaneously looking after our two boys. Videographer quality lacks a
>little :) We have 10 minutes of Dave King trying to get up the firstfalls
>and then all of a sudden this 5 second clip of him clearing them. We then
>have another 10 minutes of Randy Siade trying the first falls but never any
>video of him actually making it up.
>
>Fortunately for you, we do have some video of you. Lots of Jason too.
>
>G.
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89129 From: Dave King <daveaz@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:11am
Subject: Re: Pyeatt video
I want one.....
did it take me 10 minutes to get up the frist waterfall? damn Golf
Carts!
Dave
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
wrote:
>
> Gregs got about 20 min of video from the trip that he is going to
burn me a
> CD of. I can make copies if anyone else wants one. :)
>
>
> Frank
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> >From: "Gavel, Greg" <Greg.Gavel@i...>
> >To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...>
> >Subject: RE: XJs on Pyeatt?
> >Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:56:58 -0700
> >
> >I downloaded the video last night. I edited it into different
clips and
> >then thought I saved it. Now I can't find the clips but only the
> >continuous 20+ minute video stream. This was my first time
downloading
> >digital video and I am so far from a software guru it's pathetic.
> >
> >I'll try some more tonight maybe. If I can't get it edited I'll
just burn
> >a DVD and send you the whole thing.
> >
> >It was also my wife's first run on the camera out wheeling and she
was
> >simultaneously looking after our two boys. Videographer quality
lacks a
> >little :) We have 10 minutes of Dave King trying to get up the
firstfalls
> >and then all of a sudden this 5 second clip of him clearing them.
We then
> >have another 10 minutes of Randy Siade trying the first falls but
never any
> >video of him actually making it up.
> >
> >Fortunately for you, we do have some video of you. Lots of Jason
too.
> >
> >G.
> >
> >
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89130 From: G.R. Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:51am
Subject: Opinions Wanted - Spring Re-arch?
Group:
Looking for opinions on the next step in the evolution of the CAMO COW.
I have a kit coming to do a shackle flip at the rear of the COW. This,
with stock springs will amount to a 6-7" lift in the rear without
blocks. I have Rusty's 4" lift springs front and rear now. I am
considering installing the rear flip kit and springs and then taking the
vehicle down to a spring shop and have the front spring re-arched to
bring the front up to match the rear. ANyone see any problems with this
procedure or have any recommendations for another way to go about this.
The COW is a '78 Cherokee W/T for those who aren't familiar with it. I
already have a hi-steer set up also so that will take some of the strain
off of lifting it anymore than it is.
Gary Holmes
89131 From: Tony Axtell <tony@i...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:15pm
Subject: Re: Re: The coves
On a more positive note about the coves,
At the last cove not sure the number, the one with the rocky descend
to the wash with the pretty canyon.
We parked in the shade under a paloverde tree, my jeep is camo green,
hides very well. We watched a female mule deer walk about 10 yards in
front of us and took a drink of water from the cove. She was a big and
beautiful. We watched her for about 10 minutes until she headed back up
the wash.
Sandee McCullen wrote:
> No.......... Arizona has one OHV Fee Area and that's the Safford Hot Well
> Dunes Recreation area. There are a number of BLM Camp grounds, boat ramps
> and hiking trails that are Fee but no OHV............... yet. Sandee
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dave King [mailto:daveaz@a...]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:53 AM
>>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
>>
>>
>>I don't think I have ever been to this area, do you have to pay a fee
>>to go there?
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
>>
>>>Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters'
>>
>>mess
>>
>>>then the boaters will continue littering.
>>>
>>>-Roger
>>>
>>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
>>>>boating group through the docks and let them know they must
>>>>join in and "respect our lands".....
>>>
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89132 From: Chris Lindsey <azrubi@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:26pm
Subject: Re: Re: The coves
Sorry for the OT. Hehe, couldn't resist...
Several years back I was bow hunting up in Elk Park Meadows area.
Strollin' along, in full camo, enjoying the quite when I heard a noisy
truck approaching. So, I sat on a stump to wait for the vehicle to
pass. Instead, it pulls up about 10 yards in front of me. Two "dears"
get out and use the truck as a shield from the road (but, on my side) and
proceed to show me that they are "white tail dears".
I decided not to move and embarass them and they just got back in and
drove away.
I wasn't even disappointed that those were the only "dears" I saw that
trip. Camo is amazing... ;-)
Take care,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Axtell <tony@i...>
To:
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:15:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: The coves
> On a more positive note about the coves,
>
> At the last cove not sure the number, the one with the rocky descend
> to the wash with the pretty canyon.
>
> We parked in the shade under a paloverde tree, my jeep is camo
> green,
> hides very well. We watched a female mule deer walk about 10 yards in
> front of us and took a drink of water from the cove. She was a big and
> beautiful. We watched her for about 10 minutes until she headed back up
> the wash.
>
> Sandee McCullen wrote:
> > No.......... Arizona has one OHV Fee Area and that's the Safford Hot
> Well
> > Dunes Recreation area. There are a number of BLM Camp grounds, boat
> ramps
> > and hiking trails that are Fee but no OHV............... yet.
> Sandee
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Dave King [mailto:daveaz@a...]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:53 AM
> >>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
> >>
> >>
> >>I don't think I have ever been to this area, do you have to pay a fee
> >>to go there?
> >>
> >>Dave
> >>
> >>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters'
> >>
> >>mess
> >>
> >>>then the boaters will continue littering.
> >>>
> >>>-Roger
> >>>
> >>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
> >>>>boating group through the docks and let them know they must
> >>>>join in and "respect our lands".....
> >>>
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89133 From: colston4242 <colston4242@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:36pm
Subject: pics uploaded
http://www.geocities.com/heuasne/index.html
89134 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:54pm
Subject: Re: Re: The coves were disgusting
Let's talk enforcement. You're right, after a cleanup the mess comes back
and sometimes very quickly. Besides pushing for more law enforcement
presence, what about having a couple of people hide in the bushes or on the
hillside (washside) with video cameras ready. Non-confrontational. When
someone comes into the cove, video tape them. I don't think it would be too
hard to zoom in on the boat for some positive id, right? It's sounds like
littering is happening at a fast rate so within a few hours we should be
able to catch a couple people, don't you think? They are in the open so
there is no presumption of privacy. Make a copy, hand the tape over to
whatever law enforcement agency has jurisdiction and then document the find
in case the state wants to close the coves (to prove they weren't following
up on leads and therefore weren't trying to actively prosecute offenders).
Just brainstorming here but cleanups, though extremely important, are
reactive and don't solve the problem alone.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:13 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
> Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters' mess
> then the boaters will continue littering.
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
> wrote:
> > It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
> > boating group through the docks and let them know they must
> > join in and "respect our lands".....
>
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89135 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:31pm
Subject: Re: Help, CJ wirng
James,
Before I start, this is all based on the 81 CJ manual I have but it is
probably the same for the 82.
First part:
I looked over the wiring diagram in my 81 manual and they show 2
possible plugs that plug in to that connector that has the neutral
safety gound on it. One looks like it is for a manual tranny and one
for an auto. The manual tranny one has nothing connected to that port
on the plug. It goes no where. The auto tranny one has a wire in that
port of the plug that connects to the neutral safety switch. So yes, I
believe that connector just goes to ground somewhere. It is used with
the auto tranny to complete the ground circuit for the neutral safety
switch.
Since you are running a manual tranny, it probably means nothing to
you. Do whatever you want with it. I could be wrong but this seems to
be what it is for.
Second part:
The red wire goes to go to a connector that goes on the small top post
(not the big side post) of the starter solenoid. It does not stop at
the big side post. The red wire also goes to a point where it bridges
off in 2 directions. One is to a plug that plugs in to the ignition
module and the other is to the multi-wire connector located to the
right of the ignition module. That connector plugs in to its mate (on
the next page that you do not have in this pic) and the red wire
continues on to the ignition switch.
Also, see that Lt Blue wire that comes out of the other smaller top
post of the starter solenoid? It goes down to that multi-wire connector
and then to the same 2 connector plug for the ignition module that the
red one from the coil plugs in to. Well, from that multi-wire
connector's mate, it goes to the ignition switch also. I believe these
2 wires (red and lt blue) are the wires that activate the solenoid to
let power through to start the Jeep.
From the ignition switch, there is also a yellow wire that goes to the
volt gauge and also to the fuse block. That seems to be where the power
for the ignition system comes from. It is connected to several other
wires in the fuse block including one that goes back (through the
connector) to the big side post on the starter solenoid. This is the
same post that connects to the battery. Power.
The black wire coming out of the ignition switch seems to go to through
a plug to a brake failure switch.
The green wire seems to go three places. One to the 4 wire plug on the
ignition module. One to the idle speed switch. The last to the base
engine diagnostic connector. All the other wires in that 4 wire plug
that plugs in to the ignition module go to a plug that plugs in to the
distributor.
It would seem that none of the various wires associated with the red
wire are routed through the ignition module such that they can not
complete a ignition/starting circuit. Are you using an aftermarket
ignition module and distributor? If so, you might be able to get power
for it from either of the 2 wires (red or blue) that go in to that 2
wire connector that plugs in to the factory ignition module. They both
seem to come from ignition on only sources that could provide power. If
I were a betting man, I'd say the red one since red usually signifies
power. If you need to connect the green wire to something, I'm not sure
on that one. It may just be a power lead, but it may require a signal
from the ignition module to work properly.
This is all based on what I "read" from the wiring schematic. I would
encourage you to trace back the wires as I did on your diagram to
confirm what I said. I could even come over and show you how I "read"
it.
Hope that helps and is not too confusing.
Chris
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 10:05 AM, James Towle wrote:
> Here is a "under the hood" wiring diagram for an '82 CJ, be careful it
> is
> .5Mb.
> http://members.cox.net/jeepin1/wiring_diagram.jpg
>
> I have a couple of questions; (I am in the middle of this)
>
> First, the diagram shows a black wire, bottom-left hand corner, coming
> from
> a four prong plug, the wire is labeled "Neutral Safety Ground". The
> other
> end of the four prong plug goes to the tranny and xfer case, it is not
> shown
> in the diagram. So does the black wire simply go to ground?
>
> Second, the diagram shows two wires going to the coil, one red and one
> dark
> green. I believe the red wire goes to the side of the selenoid that
> just has
> power during cranking. Is this correct? If this is correct, then I am
> in
> trouble because all the other wires going through the "computer" I
> have cut
> them out, the green wires. In addition, since I have cut out the wires
> going
> to the computer, if I need the green hook up, where do I get the power
> from?
>
> TIA
>
> --James
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89136 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:00pm
Subject: Re: Re: The coves were disgusting
I have been following this thread, and I think I would like to through
my $0.02 in now. I am grew up in Iowa, moved here after living in
Michigan for quite a few years, and I gotta say that, in general,
Arizona has a lot of trash laying around, and what I have seen at the
Coves is truely astounding. I have never seen that much trash on the
ground outside of a dump. I just got back from a week in Michigan and
in the whole week, you know how many cans I saw laying around?
Not one.
Look on your beer bottle next time, IA-5 and MI-10, five and ten cent
deposits on every can and bottle. Works like a charm.
But I digress.
Bill may be on to something here. IMHO, at the rate that garbage builds
up out there, we are assured of getting that closed at some time. If
you haven't been out there, you should go take a look. The job of
cleaning up is just stupid huge right now. Maybe getting a little more
activist on this issue is a good thing to do, cuz if we don't do
something either that area goes away or it is just so freakin' trashed
that there is no point in going back out there (which is where I am at
right now as far as the Coves are concerned). Maybe send a few of
those tapes to the media, those folks seem to like to stir things up.
Maybe that would light a fire under whoever these boat owners (I won't
call them "boaters", I'm a boater) are that seem to think that leaving 5
cases of empties behind is OK.
I don't like losing things because of other people being stupid, and
that seems to be what is happening out there.
Bill Hooven wrote:
>Let's talk enforcement. You're right, after a cleanup the mess comes back
>and sometimes very quickly. Besides pushing for more law enforcement
>presence, what about having a couple of people hide in the bushes or on the
>hillside (washside) with video cameras ready. Non-confrontational. When
>someone comes into the cove, video tape them. I don't think it would be too
>hard to zoom in on the boat for some positive id, right? It's sounds like
>littering is happening at a fast rate so within a few hours we should be
>able to catch a couple people, don't you think? They are in the open so
>there is no presumption of privacy. Make a copy, hand the tape over to
>whatever law enforcement agency has jurisdiction and then document the find
>in case the state wants to close the coves (to prove they weren't following
>up on leads and therefore weren't trying to actively prosecute offenders).
>Just brainstorming here but cleanups, though extremely important, are
>reactive and don't solve the problem alone.
>
>Bill
>
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...>
>To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:13 AM
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
>
>
>
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>>Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters' mess
>>then the boaters will continue littering.
>>
>>-Roger
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
>>>boating group through the docks and let them know they must
>>>join in and "respect our lands".....
>>>
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89137 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 6:12pm
Subject: RE: [arizonaXJ] XJ parts source .
The Pull-A-Part as 3035 West Broadway ( 602 243-5400 ) has 7 XJ's they're
parting . Mostly early ones ( 91 and earlier ) , some good interior parts
and body parts . Someone was looking for some gray carpet for the rear of
their XJ and I did find one or two that might work . There were NO Dana 44's
to be had but there were plenty of good parts including a 'open' radiator in
the 91 Sport .
Ecology ( about 320 S. 27 th ave. , 602 233-2277) was pretty picked over
but they had just gotten in a red Limited and it looked pretty complete . It
was located in the SW corner .
If anyone has any questions you can e-mail me off line and I might be able
to tell you what I saw and save someone a trip in the heat .
In the future , maybe we can report back to the group what Jeeps were found
at which bone yards so that we can help each other out some .
I have OFFICIALLY started this new trend ( I hope ) now ....
Hope this helps ,
Purple .
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From: trmn8rjn98 [mailto:trmn8rjn98@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:47 AM
To: arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [arizonaXJ] Intrest? 87 XJ 4.0 231 & d44 rearend $1000 ......
Hi I just bought this but also just bought an early bronco. I thought
I would see if anyone had intrest in this as a project or parts rig.
I do not have a title as of now but abandend titles are not hard or
expensive to get. It runs well AC is cold tranny does not like to go
forward but goes back well. strange vacume shifter for the 231 case
interior is quite decent but dash it taken apart & the temp guage has
been taken. it is a white 2 door, body is presentable front bumper is
bent & a dent in the roof as well as a few other little stuff I
believe. Power windows & door locks. I would sell it as is no title
for $1000 firm.
John
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89138 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:08pm
Subject: Mercedes Crawling
I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition that I
not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is off
of my Jeep for repairs).
http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
Have a good day
Brad
89139 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:11pm
Subject: Re: Mercedes Crawling
I forgot to mention, that truck was strait before I drove on it. :)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brad" <a292@a...> wrote:
> I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
> permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition that
I
> not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is
off
> of my Jeep for repairs).
> http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
>
> Have a good day
> Brad
89140 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:17pm
Subject: Re: Mercedes Crawling
Hey!
You darn Rubi owners and your Long arm kits! You running up the hill
with us on Saturday?
What repairs? You putting one of those supercharger kits in there?
Brad wrote:
>I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
>permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition that I
>not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is off
>of my Jeep for repairs).
>http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
>
>Have a good day
>Brad
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89141 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:29pm
Subject: Re: Mercedes Crawling
I'd love to run up the hill on Saturday but it's not looking like I'll be
able to. Murphy seems to be working against me lately...
The hood is getting the dent repaired and painted, even though
everyone and his sister tells me not to fix it because "You'll just
dent it again". LOL I can sure try to prove them all wrong though.
Brad
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
wrote:
> Hey!
>
> You darn Rubi owners and your Long arm kits! You running up
the hill
> with us on Saturday?
>
> What repairs? You putting one of those supercharger kits in
there?
>
> Brad wrote:
>
> >I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
> >permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition
that I
> >not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is
off
> >of my Jeep for repairs).
> >http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
> >
> >Have a good day
> >Brad
> >
> >
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89142 From: alleyn59 <alleyn59@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:58pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003 - Reminder
Horsethief is closed. It is posted as such when you get off the
freeway at Bumble Bee.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott K" <osmtj@y...> wrote:
>
http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/prescott/news/news_restrictions_lifted072803.
> htm
>
> Does this help?
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> > I need to look at a map to locate the boundarys but it looks like
> the
> > Crown King area to Horse Thief Basin is off limits for camping.
> >
> > The forest office has not answerd their phone for me yet.
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Prescott National Forest Lifts Restrictions Over Most of Forest
> >
> > PRESCOTT Ariz—Prescott National Forest officials have decided to
> lift
> > fire restrictions over most of the forest on Tuesday, July 29,
> 2003 at 8
> > a.m. The closure area around Castle Creek Wilderness and
Horsethief
> > Basin will continue and the forest will maintain campfire and
> smoking
> > restriction on the forest adjacent to the closure.
> >
> > "Over the last several days we have seen considerable improvement
> in
> > conditions on the forest including the Energy Release Component.
> We have
> > had higher humidity and some precipitation. Weather forecasts also
> > predict a continuation of the current weather pattern which
should
> bring
> > some rain almost every day," said Prescott National Forest Fire
> > Management Officer Robert Morales.
> >
> > The lifting of restrictions means the forest is open for visitors
> to use
> > campfires. Forest officials want to stress that visitors should
use
> > campfires with caution. Do not leave your campfire unattended,
and
> do
> > not leave until the fire is completely out.
> >
> > Conditions at the southern end of the Bradshaw are drier than
other
> > portions of the forest. For this reason the closure area around
> Castle
> > Creek Wilderness and Horsethief Basin will remain in effect. The
> > boundary for the closed area is described as; from the Forest
> boundary
> > south and west along Forest Road 259 to Poland Creek, then south
> along
> > the Castle Creek Wilderness boundary to Whiskey Springs, then
south
> > along Forest Road 100 to trail 233, then southwest along the
trail
> to
> > the Forest boundary, then east and north along the Forest
boundary
> to
> > Forest Road 259.
> >
> > The forest will also maintain campfire and smoking restrictions
> adjacent
> > to the closure. The boundary for campfire and smoking
restrictions
> is
> > County Road 177, the Mayer/Goodwin Road, to Forest Road 52,
Senator
> > Highway, to Forest Road 362 to the forest boundary.
> >
> > "We would like to see these areas receive about an inch of rain,
> or a
> > combination of rain and further improvement of the fuel moisture
> levels
> > and Energy Release Component before lifting the restrictions and
> closure
> > area in the southern Bradshaws," said District Ranger Ernie Del
> Rio.
> >
> > For information related to fire restrictions and general fire
> > information on public lands in the southwest, you can go to:
> > www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire or call toll free 1-877-864-6985.
> >
> >
> > Joey K
> > http://www.desertjeep.com
> > 93YJ
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jeff misischia [mailto:g4mannn@y...]
> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:19 PM
> > To: joey@d...
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant -
> Saturday,
> > August 16, 2003 - Reminder
> >
> >
> > what i meant is it open to camp up there?
> > --- DesertJeep <Joey@D...> wrote:
> > > Right on. I am camping and have the whole family
> > > ready to pack in the
> > > Jeep. I got a couple of spacious XJs carrying some
> > > equipment for me so
> > > it should be a lot of fun. Now if I can just find
> > > that other tent. :)
> > >
> > > Joey K
> > > http://www.desertjeep.com
> > > 93YJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jeff misischia [mailto:g4mannn@y...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:29 PM
> > > To: joey@d...; 'AzVJC'
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake
> > > Pleasant - Saturday,
> > > August 16, 2003 - Reminder
> > >
> > >
> > > so,joey, are you able to camp and are you bringin
> > > the
> > > kids?
> > > --- DesertJeep <joey@d...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please remember to sign up for the main "run" so
> > > we
> > > > can get an accurate
> > > > count.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=955
> > > >
> > > > Also Cindy's Café is expecting us. This is the
> > > > kitchen in the rear of
> > > > the old Saloon. She may even have breakfast for
> > > > those staying overnight.
> > > >
> > > > Joey K
> > > > http://www.desertjeep.com
> > > > 93YJ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:09 PM
> > > > To: AzVJC
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake
> > > Pleasant
> > > > - Saturday, August
> > > > 16, 2003 - Reminder
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello All,Joey Kulich is leading a Crown King from
> > > > Lake Pleasant trail
> > > > run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.
> > > > When: Saturday the 16th of August
> > > > Where: Meeting at various orgins and times to
> > > > converge on Crown King
> > > > Rating: 3.0-
> > > > Length: ALL DAY
> > > > CB Channel:
> > > >
> > > > Annual Crown King Run
> > > >
> > > > This is it. Another year to make our way to Crown
> > > > King. Come join the
> > > > camaraderie and adventure. Here is a chance to
> > > enjoy
> > > > cool temps and
> > > > hospitality of Crown King. What better setting to
> > > > see the faces of the
> > > > people behind the emails.
> > > >
> > > > Sign up here to be counted then sign up for a run
> > > > you can make (below).
> > > > Last year we had several runs starting at various
> > > > times and locations.
> > > > There will be runs starting from Lake Pleasent,
> > > > Turkey Creek, Senetor
> > > > Highway from Prescott or even the Crown King road.
> > > >
> > > > 6:00 AM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Early Bird
> > > Run
> > > > Lead by Hackle
> > > >
> > > > 7:00 AM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Lead by Stu
> > > > Olson
> > > >
> > > > 8:00 AM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Lead by Kent
> > > > Warner
> > > >
> > > > 9:00 AM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Lead by
> > > Sharky
> > > >
> > > > 10:00 AM Lake Pleasant to Crown King Lead by
> > > Kevin's
> > > > Carr
> > > >
> > > > 11:00 AM
> > > >
> > > > 1:30 PM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Lead by
> > > > Leonard Pennock
> > > >
> > > > 7:00 AM Turkey Creek Lead by Joey K</font>
> > > >
> > > > If you are intrested in leading a run from a
> > > > different location or time
> > > > post it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I just wanted to send this message and I or
> > > someone
> > > > else will
> > > > send it again before the trip. The trail times are
> > > > when the group
> > > > leaves. If you sign up for my early bird run at
> > > 6:00
> > > > and show up at 6:05
> > > > you will be well behind the group and probably be
> > > > aired down and ready
> > > > when Stu leaves at 7:00. We will have a lot of
> > > > vehicles on the trail at
> > > > the same time and need to be on time to keep each
> > > > group separate from
> > > > the others. Of course everyone wants to be well
> > > > ahead of Sharky as we
> > > > all know how his trips to Crown King end up. BTW
> > > > anyone that is an EMT
> > > > might want to think about joining Sharky's
> > > > group:)<br>
> > > > Jim F. aka Hackle
> > > >
> > > > Bring your camera, pleanty of water and your
> > > > intelligents.
> > > >
> > > > More details to follow as details get ironed
> > > > out.<br>
> > > >
> > > > Joey K
> > > > 93YJ
> > > >
> > > > The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local
> > > > favorite. On any given
> > > > weekend, there will be numerous groups of four
> > > > wheelers, ATV's and
> > > > motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is
> > > a
> > > > fun and scenic trail
> > > > into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a
> > > > href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the
> > > first trip ever done by
> > > > AzVJC.</a>
> > > >
> > > > The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd
> > > > and travels through
> > > > the foot hills and up the side of the mountain,
> > > > giving nice views of
> > > > Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some
> > > tougher
> > > > optional sections
> > > > that can make it interesting.
> > > >
> > > > The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort
> > > > Misery and Oro Belle,
> > > > both of which are remnants of the Mining era of
> > > the
> > > > Bradshaw Mountains.
> > > > All that remains now, are foundations and a few
> > > > crumbling walls. Fort
> > > > Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as
> > > > the small creek
> > > > usually has running water and there are trees to
> > > > provide shade.
> > > >
> > > > In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery
> > > > through Oro Belle to
> > > > Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the
> > > > summer, an early
> > > > start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
> > > >
> > > > Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs
> > > through
> > > > the cool pines and
> > > > into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to
> > > > eat and have a drink,
> > > > and a general store that sells some excellent
> > > fudge.
> > > > The old Crown King
> > > > Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later
> > > > hauled up (many years
> > > > ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the
> > > > saloon was built into
> > > > the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable
> from
> > > > the rear of the building (at ground level). The
> > > upstairs
> > >
> > === message truncated ===
> >
> >
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89143 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:58pm
Subject: Re: Mercedes Crawling
Now take that nifty turbo diesel engine out of the Mercedes
and install it in your jeep. ;-)
Brad wrote:
>I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
>permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition that I
>not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is off
>of my Jeep for repairs).
>http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
>
>Have a good day
>Brad
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
89144 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:21pm
Subject: Good alignment shop
Anyone recommend a good alignment shop? I've had my 87XJ into Big O
down here a couple times and it's still pulling to the right.
Thanks
Keith
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89145 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:23pm
Subject: Fotgot
Forgot to ask. How do you properly adjust the track bar? Just would
like to make sure it's correct and not part of the problem.
Thanks again.
Keith
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89146 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:53pm
Subject: Anniversary Im not lookig foward to
This weekend marks the one year anniversary for me & my family
on August 17 2002 @ 5:45 am on my way to Crown King me & my 2 sons and one of their friends were hit head on by a drunk driver. that day impacted our lives so much words can not describe
the jerk who hit us received 5 years his exact words were Oh well when he was sentenced
My family & I have learned a lot these last 12 months and got to know a lot more great friends between all the groups out there
I wanted to say thanks again to EVERYONE who sent e-mails, cards even showing up at my door with Root beer floats
also for EVERYONE who contribute money to the Rick Beer rebuild fund
your money bought my air compressor & some air tools for the garage
Thank you
also wanted to say thanks to Tom LaFrance for using his Pay Pal account
Joey Kulick for organizing the controversy but famous Beer run I say lets do it again I will lead
Once again a HUGE THANKS TO EVERYONE OUT THERE
THANKS RICK BEER
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89147 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:59pm
Subject: RE: Anniversary Im not lookig foward to
Rick,
You deserve it all of the way. I am game for another "Beer" run. I am
sure that has impacted you and your family a great deal but I can only
hope it made you stronger and wiser. At least you do know the amount of
people behind you.
Just be careful on getting to the run this weekend.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: RICK BEER [mailto:RIKNAZ@M...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:53 PM
To: ARIZONABACKCOUNTRY; arizonaXJ; AZ UNDERTAKERS; AZVJC AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Anniversary Im not lookig foward to
This weekend marks the one year anniversary for me & my family
on August 17 2002 @ 5:45 am on my way to Crown King me & my 2 sons and
one of their friends were hit head on by a drunk driver. that day
impacted our lives so much words can not describe
the jerk who hit us received 5 years his exact words were Oh well when
he was sentenced
My family & I have learned a lot these last 12 months and got to know a
lot more great friends between all the groups out there
I wanted to say thanks again to EVERYONE who sent e-mails, cards even
showing up at my door with Root beer floats
also for EVERYONE who contribute money to the Rick Beer rebuild fund
your money bought my air compressor & some air tools for the garage
Thank you
also wanted to say thanks to Tom LaFrance for using his Pay Pal account
Joey Kulick for organizing the controversy but famous Beer run I say
lets do it again I will lead
Once again a HUGE THANKS TO EVERYONE OUT THERE
THANKS RICK BEER
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89148 From: Scott K <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:04pm
Subject: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
Those that have been around here for the last 5 years know that I
originally had a YJ when the club was formed and replaced that with
a TJ in February of '99. I sold the TJ in June and have been having
a serious case of withdrawal for the past 2 months. :(
I finally came across the perfect Jeep to take up to Montana with me
(our house closes this week and we leave for good Sept 2nd). I feel
like I'm getting a great deal on it. I've got Theresa's stamp of
approval so I'm picking it up tomorrow. The first mod will be to
slap on a club sticker :)
Anybody want to take a W.A.G. as to what my 3rd Jeep will be? I'll
post a pic tomorrow and some details. (Joey K, Mark B, & Stu O -
DON'T SPILL THE BEANS!)
We can baptize it into the club at the anniversary run to CK. I feel
like a kid again! :D
Scott K
89149 From: Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:08pm
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
A Willy?
Scott K <osmtj@y...> wrote:Those that have been around here for the last 5 years know that I
originally had a YJ when the club was formed and replaced that with
a TJ in February of '99. I sold the TJ in June and have been having
a serious case of withdrawal for the past 2 months. :(
I finally came across the perfect Jeep to take up to Montana with me
(our house closes this week and we leave for good Sept 2nd). I feel
like I'm getting a great deal on it. I've got Theresa's stamp of
approval so I'm picking it up tomorrow. The first mod will be to
slap on a club sticker :)
Anybody want to take a W.A.G. as to what my 3rd Jeep will be? I'll
post a pic tomorrow and some details. (Joey K, Mark B, & Stu O -
DON'T SPILL THE BEANS!)
We can baptize it into the club at the anniversary run to CK. I feel
like a kid again! :D
Scott K
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89150 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
An Eagle? :)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott K" <osmtj@y...> wrote:
> Those that have been around here for the last 5 years know
that I
> originally had a YJ when the club was formed and replaced
that with
> a TJ in February of '99. I sold the TJ in June and have been
having
> a serious case of withdrawal for the past 2 months. :(
>
> I finally came across the perfect Jeep to take up to Montana
with me
> (our house closes this week and we leave for good Sept 2nd). I
feel
> like I'm getting a great deal on it. I've got Theresa's stamp of
> approval so I'm picking it up tomorrow. The first mod will be to
> slap on a club sticker :)
>
> Anybody want to take a W.A.G. as to what my 3rd Jeep will be?
I'll
> post a pic tomorrow and some details. (Joey K, Mark B, & Stu O
-
> DON'T SPILL THE BEANS!)
>
> We can baptize it into the club at the anniversary run to CK. I
feel
> like a kid again! :D
>
> Scott K
89151 From: Scott K <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:14pm
Subject: Re: Anniversary Im not lookig foward to
Rick,
I can't believe it's already been a year! I'm sure glad you and your
family are still around.
If Joey can organize another Beer run before September 2nd (thats
the day we leave for Montana) I'd love to go. I'm getting another
Jeep tomorrow and would love to wheel with some of my old friends.
If you are still nervous about driving on Saturday you can always
follow me ;) I'm going to be on Stu's run.
If I don't run into you before I leave I want you to know how much I
appreciate all of the tire work you've done for me. It's guys like
you that help make this club so great.
Regards,
Scott Kruize
proud owner of ????? (to be released tomorrow;)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "RICK BEER" <RIKNAZ@M...> wrote:
> This weekend marks the one year anniversary for me & my family
> on August 17 2002 @ 5:45 am on my way to Crown King me & my 2 sons
and one of their friends were hit head on by a drunk driver. that
day impacted our lives so much words can not describe
> the jerk who hit us received 5 years his exact words were Oh
well when he was sentenced
> My family & I have learned a lot these last 12 months and got to
know a lot more great friends between all the groups out there
> I wanted to say thanks again to EVERYONE who sent e-mails, cards
even showing up at my door with Root beer floats
> also for EVERYONE who contribute money to the Rick Beer rebuild
fund
> your money bought my air compressor & some air tools for the
garage
> Thank you
> also wanted to say thanks to Tom LaFrance for using his Pay Pal
account
> Joey Kulick for organizing the controversy but famous Beer run
I say lets do it again I will lead
> Once again a HUGE THANKS TO EVERYONE OUT THERE
> THANKS RICK BEER
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
89127 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:59am
Subject: RE: Re: The coves were disgusting
No.......... Arizona has one OHV Fee Area and that's the Safford Hot Well
Dunes Recreation area. There are a number of BLM Camp grounds, boat ramps
and hiking trails that are Fee but no OHV............... yet. Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave King [mailto:daveaz@a...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:53 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
>
>
> I don't think I have ever been to this area, do you have to pay a fee
> to go there?
>
> Dave
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> > Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters'
> mess
> > then the boaters will continue littering.
> >
> > -Roger
> >
> > --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
> > wrote:
> > > It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
> > > boating group through the docks and let them know they must
> > > join in and "respect our lands".....
>
>
>
>
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89128 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 10:47am
Subject: Pyeatt video
Gregs got about 20 min of video from the trip that he is going to burn me a
CD of. I can make copies if anyone else wants one. :)
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
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>From: "Gavel, Greg" <Greg.Gavel@i...>
>To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...>
>Subject: RE: XJs on Pyeatt?
>Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:56:58 -0700
>
>I downloaded the video last night. I edited it into different clips and
>then thought I saved it. Now I can't find the clips but only the
>continuous 20+ minute video stream. This was my first time downloading
>digital video and I am so far from a software guru it's pathetic.
>
>I'll try some more tonight maybe. If I can't get it edited I'll just burn
>a DVD and send you the whole thing.
>
>It was also my wife's first run on the camera out wheeling and she was
>simultaneously looking after our two boys. Videographer quality lacks a
>little :) We have 10 minutes of Dave King trying to get up the firstfalls
>and then all of a sudden this 5 second clip of him clearing them. We then
>have another 10 minutes of Randy Siade trying the first falls but never any
>video of him actually making it up.
>
>Fortunately for you, we do have some video of you. Lots of Jason too.
>
>G.
>
>
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89129 From: Dave King <daveaz@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:11am
Subject: Re: Pyeatt video
I want one.....
did it take me 10 minutes to get up the frist waterfall? damn Golf
Carts!
Dave
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <BadAZXJ@m...>
wrote:
>
> Gregs got about 20 min of video from the trip that he is going to
burn me a
> CD of. I can make copies if anyone else wants one. :)
>
>
> Frank
> http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
> http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Gavel, Greg" <Greg.Gavel@i...>
> >To: "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...>
> >Subject: RE: XJs on Pyeatt?
> >Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 07:56:58 -0700
> >
> >I downloaded the video last night. I edited it into different
clips and
> >then thought I saved it. Now I can't find the clips but only the
> >continuous 20+ minute video stream. This was my first time
downloading
> >digital video and I am so far from a software guru it's pathetic.
> >
> >I'll try some more tonight maybe. If I can't get it edited I'll
just burn
> >a DVD and send you the whole thing.
> >
> >It was also my wife's first run on the camera out wheeling and she
was
> >simultaneously looking after our two boys. Videographer quality
lacks a
> >little :) We have 10 minutes of Dave King trying to get up the
firstfalls
> >and then all of a sudden this 5 second clip of him clearing them.
We then
> >have another 10 minutes of Randy Siade trying the first falls but
never any
> >video of him actually making it up.
> >
> >Fortunately for you, we do have some video of you. Lots of Jason
too.
> >
> >G.
> >
> >
>
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89130 From: G.R. Holmes <niitoyis@w...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 11:51am
Subject: Opinions Wanted - Spring Re-arch?
Group:
Looking for opinions on the next step in the evolution of the CAMO COW.
I have a kit coming to do a shackle flip at the rear of the COW. This,
with stock springs will amount to a 6-7" lift in the rear without
blocks. I have Rusty's 4" lift springs front and rear now. I am
considering installing the rear flip kit and springs and then taking the
vehicle down to a spring shop and have the front spring re-arched to
bring the front up to match the rear. ANyone see any problems with this
procedure or have any recommendations for another way to go about this.
The COW is a '78 Cherokee W/T for those who aren't familiar with it. I
already have a hi-steer set up also so that will take some of the strain
off of lifting it anymore than it is.
Gary Holmes
89131 From: Tony Axtell <tony@i...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:15pm
Subject: Re: Re: The coves
On a more positive note about the coves,
At the last cove not sure the number, the one with the rocky descend
to the wash with the pretty canyon.
We parked in the shade under a paloverde tree, my jeep is camo green,
hides very well. We watched a female mule deer walk about 10 yards in
front of us and took a drink of water from the cove. She was a big and
beautiful. We watched her for about 10 minutes until she headed back up
the wash.
Sandee McCullen wrote:
> No.......... Arizona has one OHV Fee Area and that's the Safford Hot Well
> Dunes Recreation area. There are a number of BLM Camp grounds, boat ramps
> and hiking trails that are Fee but no OHV............... yet. Sandee
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Dave King [mailto:daveaz@a...]
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:53 AM
>>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
>>
>>
>>I don't think I have ever been to this area, do you have to pay a fee
>>to go there?
>>
>>Dave
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
>>
>>>Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters'
>>
>>mess
>>
>>>then the boaters will continue littering.
>>>
>>>-Roger
>>>
>>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
>>>>boating group through the docks and let them know they must
>>>>join in and "respect our lands".....
>>>
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89132 From: Chris Lindsey <azrubi@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:26pm
Subject: Re: Re: The coves
Sorry for the OT. Hehe, couldn't resist...
Several years back I was bow hunting up in Elk Park Meadows area.
Strollin' along, in full camo, enjoying the quite when I heard a noisy
truck approaching. So, I sat on a stump to wait for the vehicle to
pass. Instead, it pulls up about 10 yards in front of me. Two "dears"
get out and use the truck as a shield from the road (but, on my side) and
proceed to show me that they are "white tail dears".
I decided not to move and embarass them and they just got back in and
drove away.
I wasn't even disappointed that those were the only "dears" I saw that
trip. Camo is amazing... ;-)
Take care,
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Axtell <tony@i...>
To:
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:15:53 -0700
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: The coves
> On a more positive note about the coves,
>
> At the last cove not sure the number, the one with the rocky descend
> to the wash with the pretty canyon.
>
> We parked in the shade under a paloverde tree, my jeep is camo
> green,
> hides very well. We watched a female mule deer walk about 10 yards in
> front of us and took a drink of water from the cove. She was a big and
> beautiful. We watched her for about 10 minutes until she headed back up
> the wash.
>
> Sandee McCullen wrote:
> > No.......... Arizona has one OHV Fee Area and that's the Safford Hot
> Well
> > Dunes Recreation area. There are a number of BLM Camp grounds, boat
> ramps
> > and hiking trails that are Fee but no OHV............... yet.
> Sandee
> >
> >
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: Dave King [mailto:daveaz@a...]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:53 AM
> >>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
> >>
> >>
> >>I don't think I have ever been to this area, do you have to pay a fee
> >>to go there?
> >>
> >>Dave
> >>
> >>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters'
> >>
> >>mess
> >>
> >>>then the boaters will continue littering.
> >>>
> >>>-Roger
> >>>
> >>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
> >>>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
> >>>>boating group through the docks and let them know they must
> >>>>join in and "respect our lands".....
> >>>
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89133 From: colston4242 <colston4242@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:36pm
Subject: pics uploaded
http://www.geocities.com/heuasne/index.html
89134 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 3:54pm
Subject: Re: Re: The coves were disgusting
Let's talk enforcement. You're right, after a cleanup the mess comes back
and sometimes very quickly. Besides pushing for more law enforcement
presence, what about having a couple of people hide in the bushes or on the
hillside (washside) with video cameras ready. Non-confrontational. When
someone comes into the cove, video tape them. I don't think it would be too
hard to zoom in on the boat for some positive id, right? It's sounds like
littering is happening at a fast rate so within a few hours we should be
able to catch a couple people, don't you think? They are in the open so
there is no presumption of privacy. Make a copy, hand the tape over to
whatever law enforcement agency has jurisdiction and then document the find
in case the state wants to close the coves (to prove they weren't following
up on leads and therefore weren't trying to actively prosecute offenders).
Just brainstorming here but cleanups, though extremely important, are
reactive and don't solve the problem alone.
Bill
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----- Original Message -----
From: "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:13 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
> Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters' mess
> then the boaters will continue littering.
>
> -Roger
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
> wrote:
> > It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
> > boating group through the docks and let them know they must
> > join in and "respect our lands".....
>
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89135 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 4:31pm
Subject: Re: Help, CJ wirng
James,
Before I start, this is all based on the 81 CJ manual I have but it is
probably the same for the 82.
First part:
I looked over the wiring diagram in my 81 manual and they show 2
possible plugs that plug in to that connector that has the neutral
safety gound on it. One looks like it is for a manual tranny and one
for an auto. The manual tranny one has nothing connected to that port
on the plug. It goes no where. The auto tranny one has a wire in that
port of the plug that connects to the neutral safety switch. So yes, I
believe that connector just goes to ground somewhere. It is used with
the auto tranny to complete the ground circuit for the neutral safety
switch.
Since you are running a manual tranny, it probably means nothing to
you. Do whatever you want with it. I could be wrong but this seems to
be what it is for.
Second part:
The red wire goes to go to a connector that goes on the small top post
(not the big side post) of the starter solenoid. It does not stop at
the big side post. The red wire also goes to a point where it bridges
off in 2 directions. One is to a plug that plugs in to the ignition
module and the other is to the multi-wire connector located to the
right of the ignition module. That connector plugs in to its mate (on
the next page that you do not have in this pic) and the red wire
continues on to the ignition switch.
Also, see that Lt Blue wire that comes out of the other smaller top
post of the starter solenoid? It goes down to that multi-wire connector
and then to the same 2 connector plug for the ignition module that the
red one from the coil plugs in to. Well, from that multi-wire
connector's mate, it goes to the ignition switch also. I believe these
2 wires (red and lt blue) are the wires that activate the solenoid to
let power through to start the Jeep.
From the ignition switch, there is also a yellow wire that goes to the
volt gauge and also to the fuse block. That seems to be where the power
for the ignition system comes from. It is connected to several other
wires in the fuse block including one that goes back (through the
connector) to the big side post on the starter solenoid. This is the
same post that connects to the battery. Power.
The black wire coming out of the ignition switch seems to go to through
a plug to a brake failure switch.
The green wire seems to go three places. One to the 4 wire plug on the
ignition module. One to the idle speed switch. The last to the base
engine diagnostic connector. All the other wires in that 4 wire plug
that plugs in to the ignition module go to a plug that plugs in to the
distributor.
It would seem that none of the various wires associated with the red
wire are routed through the ignition module such that they can not
complete a ignition/starting circuit. Are you using an aftermarket
ignition module and distributor? If so, you might be able to get power
for it from either of the 2 wires (red or blue) that go in to that 2
wire connector that plugs in to the factory ignition module. They both
seem to come from ignition on only sources that could provide power. If
I were a betting man, I'd say the red one since red usually signifies
power. If you need to connect the green wire to something, I'm not sure
on that one. It may just be a power lead, but it may require a signal
from the ignition module to work properly.
This is all based on what I "read" from the wiring schematic. I would
encourage you to trace back the wires as I did on your diagram to
confirm what I said. I could even come over and show you how I "read"
it.
Hope that helps and is not too confusing.
Chris
On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 10:05 AM, James Towle wrote:
> Here is a "under the hood" wiring diagram for an '82 CJ, be careful it
> is
> .5Mb.
> http://members.cox.net/jeepin1/wiring_diagram.jpg
>
> I have a couple of questions; (I am in the middle of this)
>
> First, the diagram shows a black wire, bottom-left hand corner, coming
> from
> a four prong plug, the wire is labeled "Neutral Safety Ground". The
> other
> end of the four prong plug goes to the tranny and xfer case, it is not
> shown
> in the diagram. So does the black wire simply go to ground?
>
> Second, the diagram shows two wires going to the coil, one red and one
> dark
> green. I believe the red wire goes to the side of the selenoid that
> just has
> power during cranking. Is this correct? If this is correct, then I am
> in
> trouble because all the other wires going through the "computer" I
> have cut
> them out, the green wires. In addition, since I have cut out the wires
> going
> to the computer, if I need the green hook up, where do I get the power
> from?
>
> TIA
>
> --James
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89136 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 5:00pm
Subject: Re: Re: The coves were disgusting
I have been following this thread, and I think I would like to through
my $0.02 in now. I am grew up in Iowa, moved here after living in
Michigan for quite a few years, and I gotta say that, in general,
Arizona has a lot of trash laying around, and what I have seen at the
Coves is truely astounding. I have never seen that much trash on the
ground outside of a dump. I just got back from a week in Michigan and
in the whole week, you know how many cans I saw laying around?
Not one.
Look on your beer bottle next time, IA-5 and MI-10, five and ten cent
deposits on every can and bottle. Works like a charm.
But I digress.
Bill may be on to something here. IMHO, at the rate that garbage builds
up out there, we are assured of getting that closed at some time. If
you haven't been out there, you should go take a look. The job of
cleaning up is just stupid huge right now. Maybe getting a little more
activist on this issue is a good thing to do, cuz if we don't do
something either that area goes away or it is just so freakin' trashed
that there is no point in going back out there (which is where I am at
right now as far as the Coves are concerned). Maybe send a few of
those tapes to the media, those folks seem to like to stir things up.
Maybe that would light a fire under whoever these boat owners (I won't
call them "boaters", I'm a boater) are that seem to think that leaving 5
cases of empties behind is OK.
I don't like losing things because of other people being stupid, and
that seems to be what is happening out there.
Bill Hooven wrote:
>Let's talk enforcement. You're right, after a cleanup the mess comes back
>and sometimes very quickly. Besides pushing for more law enforcement
>presence, what about having a couple of people hide in the bushes or on the
>hillside (washside) with video cameras ready. Non-confrontational. When
>someone comes into the cove, video tape them. I don't think it would be too
>hard to zoom in on the boat for some positive id, right? It's sounds like
>littering is happening at a fast rate so within a few hours we should be
>able to catch a couple people, don't you think? They are in the open so
>there is no presumption of privacy. Make a copy, hand the tape over to
>whatever law enforcement agency has jurisdiction and then document the find
>in case the state wants to close the coves (to prove they weren't following
>up on leads and therefore weren't trying to actively prosecute offenders).
>Just brainstorming here but cleanups, though extremely important, are
>reactive and don't solve the problem alone.
>
>Bill
>
>--------------
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "tomas2691" <tomasr@a...>
>To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 9:13 AM
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: The coves were disgusting
>
>
>
>
>>Most definitely! If OHV folks continue cleaning up the boaters' mess
>>then the boaters will continue littering.
>>
>>-Roger
>>
>>--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>It might be time to start a campaign to connect with the
>>>boating group through the docks and let them know they must
>>>join in and "respect our lands".....
>>>
>>>
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89137 From: purple <purp8@c...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 6:12pm
Subject: RE: [arizonaXJ] XJ parts source .
The Pull-A-Part as 3035 West Broadway ( 602 243-5400 ) has 7 XJ's they're
parting . Mostly early ones ( 91 and earlier ) , some good interior parts
and body parts . Someone was looking for some gray carpet for the rear of
their XJ and I did find one or two that might work . There were NO Dana 44's
to be had but there were plenty of good parts including a 'open' radiator in
the 91 Sport .
Ecology ( about 320 S. 27 th ave. , 602 233-2277) was pretty picked over
but they had just gotten in a red Limited and it looked pretty complete . It
was located in the SW corner .
If anyone has any questions you can e-mail me off line and I might be able
to tell you what I saw and save someone a trip in the heat .
In the future , maybe we can report back to the group what Jeeps were found
at which bone yards so that we can help each other out some .
I have OFFICIALLY started this new trend ( I hope ) now ....
Hope this helps ,
Purple .
-----Original Message-----
From: trmn8rjn98 [mailto:trmn8rjn98@a...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 7:47 AM
To: arizonaXJ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [arizonaXJ] Intrest? 87 XJ 4.0 231 & d44 rearend $1000 ......
Hi I just bought this but also just bought an early bronco. I thought
I would see if anyone had intrest in this as a project or parts rig.
I do not have a title as of now but abandend titles are not hard or
expensive to get. It runs well AC is cold tranny does not like to go
forward but goes back well. strange vacume shifter for the 231 case
interior is quite decent but dash it taken apart & the temp guage has
been taken. it is a white 2 door, body is presentable front bumper is
bent & a dent in the roof as well as a few other little stuff I
believe. Power windows & door locks. I would sell it as is no title
for $1000 firm.
John
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89138 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:08pm
Subject: Mercedes Crawling
I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition that I
not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is off
of my Jeep for repairs).
http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
Have a good day
Brad
89139 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:11pm
Subject: Re: Mercedes Crawling
I forgot to mention, that truck was strait before I drove on it. :)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Brad" <a292@a...> wrote:
> I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
> permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition that
I
> not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is
off
> of my Jeep for repairs).
> http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
>
> Have a good day
> Brad
89140 From: Kent Warner <KnetAZ@q...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:17pm
Subject: Re: Mercedes Crawling
Hey!
You darn Rubi owners and your Long arm kits! You running up the hill
with us on Saturday?
What repairs? You putting one of those supercharger kits in there?
Brad wrote:
>I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
>permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition that I
>not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is off
>of my Jeep for repairs).
>http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
>
>Have a good day
>Brad
>
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89141 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:29pm
Subject: Re: Mercedes Crawling
I'd love to run up the hill on Saturday but it's not looking like I'll be
able to. Murphy seems to be working against me lately...
The hood is getting the dent repaired and painted, even though
everyone and his sister tells me not to fix it because "You'll just
dent it again". LOL I can sure try to prove them all wrong though.
Brad
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Kent Warner" <KnetAZ@q...>
wrote:
> Hey!
>
> You darn Rubi owners and your Long arm kits! You running up
the hill
> with us on Saturday?
>
> What repairs? You putting one of those supercharger kits in
there?
>
> Brad wrote:
>
> >I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
> >permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition
that I
> >not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is
off
> >of my Jeep for repairs).
> >http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
> >
> >Have a good day
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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89142 From: alleyn59 <alleyn59@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 7:58pm
Subject: Re: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003 - Reminder
Horsethief is closed. It is posted as such when you get off the
freeway at Bumble Bee.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott K" <osmtj@y...> wrote:
>
http://www.fs.fed.us/r3/prescott/news/news_restrictions_lifted072803.
> htm
>
> Does this help?
>
> Scott K
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> > I need to look at a map to locate the boundarys but it looks like
> the
> > Crown King area to Horse Thief Basin is off limits for camping.
> >
> > The forest office has not answerd their phone for me yet.
> >
> > Joey K
> > 93YJ
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Prescott National Forest Lifts Restrictions Over Most of Forest
> >
> > PRESCOTT Ariz—Prescott National Forest officials have decided to
> lift
> > fire restrictions over most of the forest on Tuesday, July 29,
> 2003 at 8
> > a.m. The closure area around Castle Creek Wilderness and
Horsethief
> > Basin will continue and the forest will maintain campfire and
> smoking
> > restriction on the forest adjacent to the closure.
> >
> > "Over the last several days we have seen considerable improvement
> in
> > conditions on the forest including the Energy Release Component.
> We have
> > had higher humidity and some precipitation. Weather forecasts also
> > predict a continuation of the current weather pattern which
should
> bring
> > some rain almost every day," said Prescott National Forest Fire
> > Management Officer Robert Morales.
> >
> > The lifting of restrictions means the forest is open for visitors
> to use
> > campfires. Forest officials want to stress that visitors should
use
> > campfires with caution. Do not leave your campfire unattended,
and
> do
> > not leave until the fire is completely out.
> >
> > Conditions at the southern end of the Bradshaw are drier than
other
> > portions of the forest. For this reason the closure area around
> Castle
> > Creek Wilderness and Horsethief Basin will remain in effect. The
> > boundary for the closed area is described as; from the Forest
> boundary
> > south and west along Forest Road 259 to Poland Creek, then south
> along
> > the Castle Creek Wilderness boundary to Whiskey Springs, then
south
> > along Forest Road 100 to trail 233, then southwest along the
trail
> to
> > the Forest boundary, then east and north along the Forest
boundary
> to
> > Forest Road 259.
> >
> > The forest will also maintain campfire and smoking restrictions
> adjacent
> > to the closure. The boundary for campfire and smoking
restrictions
> is
> > County Road 177, the Mayer/Goodwin Road, to Forest Road 52,
Senator
> > Highway, to Forest Road 362 to the forest boundary.
> >
> > "We would like to see these areas receive about an inch of rain,
> or a
> > combination of rain and further improvement of the fuel moisture
> levels
> > and Energy Release Component before lifting the restrictions and
> closure
> > area in the southern Bradshaws," said District Ranger Ernie Del
> Rio.
> >
> > For information related to fire restrictions and general fire
> > information on public lands in the southwest, you can go to:
> > www.fs.fed.us/r3/fire or call toll free 1-877-864-6985.
> >
> >
> > Joey K
> > http://www.desertjeep.com
> > 93YJ
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jeff misischia [mailto:g4mannn@y...]
> > Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 5:19 PM
> > To: joey@d...
> > Subject: RE: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant -
> Saturday,
> > August 16, 2003 - Reminder
> >
> >
> > what i meant is it open to camp up there?
> > --- DesertJeep <Joey@D...> wrote:
> > > Right on. I am camping and have the whole family
> > > ready to pack in the
> > > Jeep. I got a couple of spacious XJs carrying some
> > > equipment for me so
> > > it should be a lot of fun. Now if I can just find
> > > that other tent. :)
> > >
> > > Joey K
> > > http://www.desertjeep.com
> > > 93YJ
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: jeff misischia [mailto:g4mannn@y...]
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:29 PM
> > > To: joey@d...; 'AzVJC'
> > > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake
> > > Pleasant - Saturday,
> > > August 16, 2003 - Reminder
> > >
> > >
> > > so,joey, are you able to camp and are you bringin
> > > the
> > > kids?
> > > --- DesertJeep <joey@d...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Please remember to sign up for the main "run" so
> > > we
> > > > can get an accurate
> > > > count.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=955
> > > >
> > > > Also Cindy's Café is expecting us. This is the
> > > > kitchen in the rear of
> > > > the old Saloon. She may even have breakfast for
> > > > those staying overnight.
> > > >
> > > > Joey K
> > > > http://www.desertjeep.com
> > > > 93YJ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: AzVJC Website [mailto:azvjc@a...]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 2:09 PM
> > > > To: AzVJC
> > > > Subject: [az_vjc] [TR] Crown King from Lake
> > > Pleasant
> > > > - Saturday, August
> > > > 16, 2003 - Reminder
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello All,Joey Kulich is leading a Crown King from
> > > > Lake Pleasant trail
> > > > run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.
> > > > When: Saturday the 16th of August
> > > > Where: Meeting at various orgins and times to
> > > > converge on Crown King
> > > > Rating: 3.0-
> > > > Length: ALL DAY
> > > > CB Channel:
> > > >
> > > > Annual Crown King Run
> > > >
> > > > This is it. Another year to make our way to Crown
> > > > King. Come join the
> > > > camaraderie and adventure. Here is a chance to
> > > enjoy
> > > > cool temps and
> > > > hospitality of Crown King. What better setting to
> > > > see the faces of the
> > > > people behind the emails.
> > > >
> > > > Sign up here to be counted then sign up for a run
> > > > you can make (below).
> > > > Last year we had several runs starting at various
> > > > times and locations.
> > > > There will be runs starting from Lake Pleasent,
> > > > Turkey Creek, Senetor
> > > > Highway from Prescott or even the Crown King road.
> > > >
> > > > 6:00 AM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Early Bird
> > > Run
> > > > Lead by Hackle
> > > >
> > > > 7:00 AM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Lead by Stu
> > > > Olson
> > > >
> > > > 8:00 AM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Lead by Kent
> > > > Warner
> > > >
> > > > 9:00 AM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Lead by
> > > Sharky
> > > >
> > > > 10:00 AM Lake Pleasant to Crown King Lead by
> > > Kevin's
> > > > Carr
> > > >
> > > > 11:00 AM
> > > >
> > > > 1:30 PM Crown King from Lake Pleasant Lead by
> > > > Leonard Pennock
> > > >
> > > > 7:00 AM Turkey Creek Lead by Joey K</font>
> > > >
> > > > If you are intrested in leading a run from a
> > > > different location or time
> > > > post it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I just wanted to send this message and I or
> > > someone
> > > > else will
> > > > send it again before the trip. The trail times are
> > > > when the group
> > > > leaves. If you sign up for my early bird run at
> > > 6:00
> > > > and show up at 6:05
> > > > you will be well behind the group and probably be
> > > > aired down and ready
> > > > when Stu leaves at 7:00. We will have a lot of
> > > > vehicles on the trail at
> > > > the same time and need to be on time to keep each
> > > > group separate from
> > > > the others. Of course everyone wants to be well
> > > > ahead of Sharky as we
> > > > all know how his trips to Crown King end up. BTW
> > > > anyone that is an EMT
> > > > might want to think about joining Sharky's
> > > > group:)<br>
> > > > Jim F. aka Hackle
> > > >
> > > > Bring your camera, pleanty of water and your
> > > > intelligents.
> > > >
> > > > More details to follow as details get ironed
> > > > out.<br>
> > > >
> > > > Joey K
> > > > 93YJ
> > > >
> > > > The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local
> > > > favorite. On any given
> > > > weekend, there will be numerous groups of four
> > > > wheelers, ATV's and
> > > > motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is
> > > a
> > > > fun and scenic trail
> > > > into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a
> > > > href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the
> > > first trip ever done by
> > > > AzVJC.</a>
> > > >
> > > > The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd
> > > > and travels through
> > > > the foot hills and up the side of the mountain,
> > > > giving nice views of
> > > > Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some
> > > tougher
> > > > optional sections
> > > > that can make it interesting.
> > > >
> > > > The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort
> > > > Misery and Oro Belle,
> > > > both of which are remnants of the Mining era of
> > > the
> > > > Bradshaw Mountains.
> > > > All that remains now, are foundations and a few
> > > > crumbling walls. Fort
> > > > Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as
> > > > the small creek
> > > > usually has running water and there are trees to
> > > > provide shade.
> > > >
> > > > In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery
> > > > through Oro Belle to
> > > > Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the
> > > > summer, an early
> > > > start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
> > > >
> > > > Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs
> > > through
> > > > the cool pines and
> > > > into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to
> > > > eat and have a drink,
> > > > and a general store that sells some excellent
> > > fudge.
> > > > The old Crown King
> > > > Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later
> > > > hauled up (many years
> > > > ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the
> > > > saloon was built into
> > > > the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable
> from
> > > > the rear of the building (at ground level). The
> > > upstairs
> > >
> > === message truncated ===
> >
> >
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89143 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:58pm
Subject: Re: Mercedes Crawling
Now take that nifty turbo diesel engine out of the Mercedes
and install it in your jeep. ;-)
Brad wrote:
>I've been wanting to do this for a long time and finally got
>permission today. Unfortunately It was under the condition that I
>not break any windows. Oh well, it was still fun. (The hood is off
>of my Jeep for repairs).
>http://community.webshots.com/album/85476710zbdJQK
>
>Have a good day
>Brad
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
89144 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:21pm
Subject: Good alignment shop
Anyone recommend a good alignment shop? I've had my 87XJ into Big O
down here a couple times and it's still pulling to the right.
Thanks
Keith
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89145 From: Keith <khaw@n...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:23pm
Subject: Fotgot
Forgot to ask. How do you properly adjust the track bar? Just would
like to make sure it's correct and not part of the problem.
Thanks again.
Keith
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89146 From: RICK BEER <RIKNAZ@M...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:53pm
Subject: Anniversary Im not lookig foward to
This weekend marks the one year anniversary for me & my family
on August 17 2002 @ 5:45 am on my way to Crown King me & my 2 sons and one of their friends were hit head on by a drunk driver. that day impacted our lives so much words can not describe
the jerk who hit us received 5 years his exact words were Oh well when he was sentenced
My family & I have learned a lot these last 12 months and got to know a lot more great friends between all the groups out there
I wanted to say thanks again to EVERYONE who sent e-mails, cards even showing up at my door with Root beer floats
also for EVERYONE who contribute money to the Rick Beer rebuild fund
your money bought my air compressor & some air tools for the garage
Thank you
also wanted to say thanks to Tom LaFrance for using his Pay Pal account
Joey Kulick for organizing the controversy but famous Beer run I say lets do it again I will lead
Once again a HUGE THANKS TO EVERYONE OUT THERE
THANKS RICK BEER
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89147 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 8:59pm
Subject: RE: Anniversary Im not lookig foward to
Rick,
You deserve it all of the way. I am game for another "Beer" run. I am
sure that has impacted you and your family a great deal but I can only
hope it made you stronger and wiser. At least you do know the amount of
people behind you.
Just be careful on getting to the run this weekend.
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: RICK BEER [mailto:RIKNAZ@M...]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:53 PM
To: ARIZONABACKCOUNTRY; arizonaXJ; AZ UNDERTAKERS; AZVJC AZVJC
Subject: [az_vjc] Anniversary Im not lookig foward to
This weekend marks the one year anniversary for me & my family
on August 17 2002 @ 5:45 am on my way to Crown King me & my 2 sons and
one of their friends were hit head on by a drunk driver. that day
impacted our lives so much words can not describe
the jerk who hit us received 5 years his exact words were Oh well when
he was sentenced
My family & I have learned a lot these last 12 months and got to know a
lot more great friends between all the groups out there
I wanted to say thanks again to EVERYONE who sent e-mails, cards even
showing up at my door with Root beer floats
also for EVERYONE who contribute money to the Rick Beer rebuild fund
your money bought my air compressor & some air tools for the garage
Thank you
also wanted to say thanks to Tom LaFrance for using his Pay Pal account
Joey Kulick for organizing the controversy but famous Beer run I say
lets do it again I will lead
Once again a HUGE THANKS TO EVERYONE OUT THERE
THANKS RICK BEER
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89148 From: Scott K <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:04pm
Subject: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
Those that have been around here for the last 5 years know that I
originally had a YJ when the club was formed and replaced that with
a TJ in February of '99. I sold the TJ in June and have been having
a serious case of withdrawal for the past 2 months. :(
I finally came across the perfect Jeep to take up to Montana with me
(our house closes this week and we leave for good Sept 2nd). I feel
like I'm getting a great deal on it. I've got Theresa's stamp of
approval so I'm picking it up tomorrow. The first mod will be to
slap on a club sticker :)
Anybody want to take a W.A.G. as to what my 3rd Jeep will be? I'll
post a pic tomorrow and some details. (Joey K, Mark B, & Stu O -
DON'T SPILL THE BEANS!)
We can baptize it into the club at the anniversary run to CK. I feel
like a kid again! :D
Scott K
89149 From: Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:08pm
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
A Willy?
Scott K <osmtj@y...> wrote:Those that have been around here for the last 5 years know that I
originally had a YJ when the club was formed and replaced that with
a TJ in February of '99. I sold the TJ in June and have been having
a serious case of withdrawal for the past 2 months. :(
I finally came across the perfect Jeep to take up to Montana with me
(our house closes this week and we leave for good Sept 2nd). I feel
like I'm getting a great deal on it. I've got Theresa's stamp of
approval so I'm picking it up tomorrow. The first mod will be to
slap on a club sticker :)
Anybody want to take a W.A.G. as to what my 3rd Jeep will be? I'll
post a pic tomorrow and some details. (Joey K, Mark B, & Stu O -
DON'T SPILL THE BEANS!)
We can baptize it into the club at the anniversary run to CK. I feel
like a kid again! :D
Scott K
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89150 From: Brad <a292@a...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Woohoo! I'm no longer Jeep-less!
An Eagle? :)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Scott K" <osmtj@y...> wrote:
> Those that have been around here for the last 5 years know
that I
> originally had a YJ when the club was formed and replaced
that with
> a TJ in February of '99. I sold the TJ in June and have been
having
> a serious case of withdrawal for the past 2 months. :(
>
> I finally came across the perfect Jeep to take up to Montana
with me
> (our house closes this week and we leave for good Sept 2nd). I
feel
> like I'm getting a great deal on it. I've got Theresa's stamp of
> approval so I'm picking it up tomorrow. The first mod will be to
> slap on a club sticker :)
>
> Anybody want to take a W.A.G. as to what my 3rd Jeep will be?
I'll
> post a pic tomorrow and some details. (Joey K, Mark B, & Stu O
-
> DON'T SPILL THE BEANS!)
>
> We can baptize it into the club at the anniversary run to CK. I
feel
> like a kid again! :D
>
> Scott K
89151 From: Scott K <osmtj@y...>
Date: Tue Aug 12, 2003 9:14pm
Subject: Re: Anniversary Im not lookig foward to
Rick,
I can't believe it's already been a year! I'm sure glad you and your
family are still around.
If Joey can organize another Beer run before September 2nd (thats
the day we leave for Montana) I'd love to go. I'm getting another
Jeep tomorrow and would love to wheel with some of my old friends.
If you are still nervous about driving on Saturday you can always
follow me ;) I'm going to be on Stu's run.
If I don't run into you before I leave I want you to know how much I
appreciate all of the tire work you've done for me. It's guys like
you that help make this club so great.
Regards,
Scott Kruize
proud owner of ????? (to be released tomorrow;)
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "RICK BEER" <RIKNAZ@M...> wrote:
> This weekend marks the one year anniversary for me & my family
> on August 17 2002 @ 5:45 am on my way to Crown King me & my 2 sons
and one of their friends were hit head on by a drunk driver. that
day impacted our lives so much words can not describe
> the jerk who hit us received 5 years his exact words were Oh
well when he was sentenced
> My family & I have learned a lot these last 12 months and got to
know a lot more great friends between all the groups out there
> I wanted to say thanks again to EVERYONE who sent e-mails, cards
even showing up at my door with Root beer floats
> also for EVERYONE who contribute money to the Rick Beer rebuild
fund
> your money bought my air compressor & some air tools for the
garage
> Thank you
> also wanted to say thanks to Tom LaFrance for using his Pay Pal
account
> Joey Kulick for organizing the controversy but famous Beer run
I say lets do it again I will lead
> Once again a HUGE THANKS TO EVERYONE OUT THERE
> THANKS RICK BEER
>
>
>
>
>
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