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88876 From: Richard Logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:09pm
Subject: Flat towing
I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear with arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds of miles or should I get a trailer
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88877 From: Richard Logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:14pm
Subject: State Land Permits
Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do not sell them anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the adams office from Dobsin and 202 in mesa
Richard Logan
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88878 From: Darren Richards <darren.richards@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:23pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
I'd recommend a trailer if you have access to one or if cost isn't an
issue. You'll be much more comfortable (and safer) towing with an extra
set of brakes to help stop you. For me, cost is an issue, so I flat
tow. Unlock the front hubs and remove the rear driveshaft. The 10
minutes it takes to remove the drive shaft is well worth the peace of
mind knowing that there's no way you can do damage to the transmission
or transfer case....
Richard Logan wrote:
> I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear with
> arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds of
> miles or should I get a trailer
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88879 From: Darren Richards <darren.richards@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:26pm
Subject: Re: alternator questions
Amen. I've learned the hard way that wrenches are really, really good
conductors of electricity...
-darren
Joe West wrote:
> Joey,
>
> This is something easy to do.... You should have no problems.
>
> I'll give you the first step:
>
> Step 1. DISCONNECT THE NEGATIVE BATTERY CABLE AND PLACE IT TO THE SIDE
> WHERE IT CANNOT COME IN CONTACT WITH THE NEGATIVE BATTERY POST.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:20 PM
> To: jeepclub
> Subject: [az_vjc] alternator questions
>
>
> it seems as though my alternator is going out (tested at autozone). i have
> the service manual, so my question is- is it easy to replace with the manual
> and newbie-mechanical knowledge or should i take it to a shop?
>
>
> TIA
> 94xjoe
>
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88880 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:26pm
Subject: RE: State Land Permits
Sometime in the next few months, you'll be able to get them off of a
webpage. IBM has sent their proposal to the state land department and it is
under review now. It is very likely that we (the azvjc) will get to review
the website in beta form before it goes live.
Till then, you need to call or write the SLP office (I'm not sure the number
or address) and request the permits. I don't know if Sandy or anyone else
in the group sells them still... but they may. I'm sure your email will
bring Sandy out of the woodwork and she'll have all the information you
need.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Logan [mailto:rlogan@d...]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:14 PM
To: AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do not sell them
anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the adams office from Dobsin and
202 in mesa
Richard Logan
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88881 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:35pm
Subject: RE: alternator questions
My first mechanics job, first day on the job, first car I ever touched... I
burned up an entire wiring harness in a new car (back in 79) because I
forgot to disconnect the battery. I watched the harness burn like a fuse...
and total the car. It was kinda cool when it went through the firewall
because the inside of the car filled with smoke... it looked neat!
I was standing there mesmerized watching the harness sizzle it's way from
the alternator up to the firewall and then into the car.
It was I am sad to admit, the first job I was ever fired from :D I was
really glad I wasn't around when they explained to the owner why their car
was worthless.... needless to say; I learned the hard way.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Richards [mailto:darren.richards@m...]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:26 PM
To: Joe West
Cc: Joey Martinez; jeepclub
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] alternator questions
Amen. I've learned the hard way that wrenches are really, really good
conductors of electricity...
-darren
Joe West wrote:
> Joey,
>
> This is something easy to do.... You should have no problems.
>
> I'll give you the first step:
>
> Step 1. DISCONNECT THE NEGATIVE BATTERY CABLE AND PLACE IT TO THE SIDE
> WHERE IT CANNOT COME IN CONTACT WITH THE NEGATIVE BATTERY POST.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:20 PM
> To: jeepclub
> Subject: [az_vjc] alternator questions
>
>
> it seems as though my alternator is going out (tested at autozone). i have
> the service manual, so my question is- is it easy to replace with the
manual
> and newbie-mechanical knowledge or should i take it to a shop?
>
>
> TIA
> 94xjoe
>
>
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88882 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:41pm
Subject: Re: RE: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: [ az_vjc] JP magazine.....
I got dibs on tailgunner!
Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...> wrote:That does it ! I'm gonna find me a DJ-3A (Surrey Top) and post a run from
Mesa to Glendale !!
Bob J
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:39 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE:
[az_vjc] JP magazine.....
All,
At the risk of taking an unpopular stance... I don't believe it should
matter whether or not people to choose to drive their Jeeps only on the
street. Who cares if a Rubicon owner chooses to only drive their Rubicon on
asphalt? Who cares if they baby their Jeep and keep it polished, waxed, and
absolutely perfect?
Owning a Jeep isn't about trying to keep up with the "real" Jeep owners
("real" is usually defined by the writer as however they themselves use
their Jeep), but is rather, doing whatever you want to do with your Jeep...
independent of what anyone else thinks.
Rock crawlers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who bash the
hell out of their rigs and don't care about any damage.
Campers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who take their rig
offroad for camping and actually use 4wd some of the time.
Street Jeepers might define "real" as keeping their Jeeps totally stock and
in perfect factory condition and not subjecting it to any abuse at all.
The bottom line is; who cares how people use their Jeep? There is a
systemic attitude among some in our group that "If you don't Jeep like I do"
you aren't a real Jeeper. What a crock!
Here's what defines a real Jeeper:
If you own and drive a Jeep, you are a real Jeeper.
It doesn't matter if you built it, bought it, built and bought it, or
friggen stole the damn Jeep.
For those of you who never take your Jeep offroad... more power to you!
Don't let those in our group who whine about how you choose to use your rig
make you feel like you don't belong.
Joe West
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88883 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 11:42am
Subject: Re: A little different vie of Crown King
Wow, those are some impresive shots. I have been up there a few times when
the condtions wer elike that. Only word I can think of is Magical....... Ok
yeah and some Pucker Factor too.. lol
john k
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88884 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:45pm
Subject: RE: alternator questions
very promising guys :)
94xjoe
can't i just pull the battery?
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88885 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 4:00pm
Subject: Re: A little different vie of Crown King
Jayke,
Cool (cold) shots. That is something I would like to do sometime. I love
taking snow photographs too.
John DeRuiter, WM7A
98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] A little different vie of Crown King
> John, I saw your Crown King pics on your website. Here is a link to my
webshots. It shows Crown King in a slightly different way.
>
> http://community.webshots.com/user/jayole
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> S. Jayke Thorpe
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88886 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 4:06pm
Subject: State Land Permits
The permits can only be sold from the State Land Dept. in Phoenix, Tucson
and Flagstaff or from the Public Lands Information Center in downtown
Phoenix.
Hopefully they will be available via the internet (as Joe states) by the end
of the summer but I wouldn't hold my breath on it. I'm thinking probably
closer to the first of the year.
ASLD
1616 West Adams, Phoenix AZ 85007
602.364.2753 (will reach a recorder.... leave name and address and they will
mail app to you)
DIRECTIONS:
202 to 7th Avenue. South to Washington. West on Washington to 15th Ave.
North on 15th Ave to Monroe (2 blks). West on Monroe to the first street on
your left. You can park along the street or in the parking lot. Enter
through the back doors off the parking lot. (A multi-level parking garage
will be to your left of the ASLD building) Go into back lobby, turn left at
hallway. Desk is on your left.
Public Lands Information Center
222 N. Central (southwest corner of Central and Van Buren)
The PLIC is located in the southeast corner of the BLM building on the
corner. If you park in the ACE parking lot between Central and 1st AVENUE,
you can have your parking ticket validated. They also have any/all maps you
could want.......
3650 Lake Mary Road, Flagstaaff AZ 86001
928.774.1425
233 North Main Ave, Tucson AZ 95701
520.628.5480
That's about all I know.......... hope it helps.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Logan [mailto:rlogan@d...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
>
> Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do
> not sell them anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the
> adams office from Dobsin and 202 in mesa
>
> Richard Logan
>
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88887 From: Annie <annie@i...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 5:00pm
Subject: Lynx Lake access
I remember a few months ago someone in the list mentioned they camped up in Prescott by Lynx Lake and it was only accessible by 4x4. Could you email us the directions. We planned on taking a trip up there this weekend.
Thanks in advance
Annie and Tony Axtell
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88888 From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 5:10pm
Subject: 87 XJ ?'s
What type of 5-speed maual did they come with the 4.2L? ax-15? peugot?
would be even beter if you knew the daystar part number for the tranny mount.
Rear axle? d35 DC 8.8 ???????? c-clip???????
I thought there was a long arm kit for the xj's from RE?
I'm a former TJ owner and former member of the AZVJC
thanks
fifty_dollar_XJ
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88889 From: Darren Richards <darren.richards@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 5:31pm
Subject: Re: alternator questions
Removing the negative battery cable has the same affect... If it makes
you feel better you can pull the whole battery, but make sure the
negative cable comes off first, to prevent any possible welding action
with the wrench...
Joey Martinez wrote:
> very promising guys :)
>
> 94xjoe
>
> can't i just pull the battery?
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88890 From: alleyn59 <alleyn59@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 6:54pm
Subject: Re: alternator questions
I worked at Valley Dodge(Performance Dodge) in the 70's. I once laid
my ring finger onto the battery post of a running alternator... You
can guess the rest.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> My first mechanics job, first day on the job, first car I ever
touched... I
> burned up an entire wiring harness in a new car (back in 79)
because I
> forgot to disconnect the battery. I watched the harness burn like
a fuse...
> and total the car. It was kinda cool when it went through the
firewall
> because the inside of the car filled with smoke... it looked neat!
> I was standing there mesmerized watching the harness sizzle it's
way from
> the alternator up to the firewall and then into the car.
>
> It was I am sad to admit, the first job I was ever fired from :D I
was
> really glad I wasn't around when they explained to the owner why
their car
> was worthless.... needless to say; I learned the hard way.
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren Richards [mailto:darren.richards@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:26 PM
> To: Joe West
> Cc: Joey Martinez; jeepclub
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] alternator questions
>
>
> Amen. I've learned the hard way that wrenches are really, really
good
> conductors of electricity...
>
> -darren
>
> Joe West wrote:
> > Joey,
> >
> > This is something easy to do.... You should have no problems.
> >
> > I'll give you the first step:
> >
> > Step 1. DISCONNECT THE NEGATIVE BATTERY CABLE AND PLACE IT TO
THE SIDE
> > WHERE IT CANNOT COME IN CONTACT WITH THE NEGATIVE BATTERY POST.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:20 PM
> > To: jeepclub
> > Subject: [az_vjc] alternator questions
> >
> >
> > it seems as though my alternator is going out (tested at
autozone). i have
> > the service manual, so my question is- is it easy to replace with
the
> manual
> > and newbie-mechanical knowledge or should i take it to a shop?
> >
> >
> > TIA
> > 94xjoe
> >
> >
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88891 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 7:29pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
I have a WARN full floater kit in my rear so I have the luxury of
unlocking both front and back hubs.
A trailer is optimal, providing your tow rig is heavy enough and
powerful enough and has proper hookups to activate the trailer
brakes.
If you do flat tow, Darren's advice is the best option. Don't forget
when flat towing it's very difficult to backup more than a few feet
before you jack-knife so plan your parking/stops accordingly.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Darren Richards
<darren.richards@m...> wrote:
> I'd recommend a trailer if you have access to one or if cost isn't
an
> issue. You'll be much more comfortable (and safer) towing with an
extra
> set of brakes to help stop you. For me, cost is an issue, so I
flat
> tow. Unlock the front hubs and remove the rear driveshaft. The
10
> minutes it takes to remove the drive shaft is well worth the peace
of
> mind knowing that there's no way you can do damage to the
transmission
> or transfer case....
>
> Richard Logan wrote:
> > I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear
with
> > arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds
of
> > miles or should I get a trailer
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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> >
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88892 From: rioshilo <rioshilo@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 8:09pm
Subject: Question on Fullwidth in AZ, also D60 tech?
I was wondering for those that went full width... does it have any
major disadvantages on some of the narrow trails, or can you take any
trails that you took before simply by taking different lines. What
is your width on the outside of the tires? I think I am going to end
up with 82".
I'm also considering converting the D60 rear to 5x5.5. It's a 1970
ford F/F D60 with 8lug. How is this done?
Thanks...
Rio
88893 From: Dan Siegel <cj4rox@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 8:30pm
Subject: Re: Question on Fullwidth in AZ, also D60 tech?
Rio
I'm at 81 inches & it's a world of difference coming from a stock
width CJ. It makes for much more interesting (better) wheeling. In
some cases like the 1st squeeze on Predator it makes the obsticals
more fun by having to go up & straddle the crack. However, I've put
my Jeep on its side in a squeeze on upper Ajax that was too wide to
straddle & wound up being too high to climb one wall. In my stock
width CJ I used to just drive through & up the middle.
But, in tippy situations(white line) or sideways climbing while
turning, you can't beat the stability of the full width.
Dan Siegel
88894 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 8:34pm
Subject: RE: State Land Permits
I just renewed my SLP a couple of weeks ago and I had a chance to talk
to them a little bit. They did give me was a NEW list (dates June 18,
2003) of all of the State Land Closures for Dust Control. A total
acreage of 49,908.04. I will scan it in and put it up on my web site.
All but 1 area was in Maricopa County. A lot of them are old but there
are 3 new ones from June 17, 2003 one has acreage of 35,832.96 and that
is located South of Baseline road and East of the Maricopa County Line
(Pinal County)
Pretty disheartening
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:27 PM
To: Richard Logan; AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Sometime in the next few months, you'll be able to get them off of a
webpage. IBM has sent their proposal to the state land department and
it is
under review now. It is very likely that we (the azvjc) will get to
review
the website in beta form before it goes live.
Till then, you need to call or write the SLP office (I'm not sure the
number
or address) and request the permits. I don't know if Sandy or anyone
else
in the group sells them still... but they may. I'm sure your email will
bring Sandy out of the woodwork and she'll have all the information you
need.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Logan [mailto:rlogan@d...]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:14 PM
To: AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do not sell
them
anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the adams office from Dobsin
and
202 in mesa
Richard Logan
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88895 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 8:48pm
Subject: RE: State Land Permits
Joe,
All these areas are small urban areas that are being trashed by the "after
school crowd with ATV and bikes"...... Maricopa County and soon to be
Pinal, are being held tight to the PM-10 Air Quality ratings. Hopefully
riding areas such as the new Desert Wells area just east of Apache Junction
will help with the dust problems in the urban areas. The area just east of
Maricopa County line is the M.P. 201 area in Gold Canyon. 32,000 acres were
closed to OHV but we mapped and signed 86,000 with 200 miles of trails just
east of this area ............... Desert Wells Multi-Use Area. The area
along Ironwood Rd and Hwy 60 at the M.P. 201 was being outright devastated
by OHV......... again, mostly ATV's and Bikes but they were destroying the
ranchers tanks (using the banks as jumps) and the CAP that runs parallel
with Ironwood Rd looks like a moonscape. Several riders have been killed in
the past couple of years trying to jump the canal. The drug and rave
parties had become massive. Air Quality Control wanted ALL closed but with
"sitting at the table" with the ranchers, AQC, County of Pinal, Game & Fish,
ASLD, OHV Recreationists and Hunters, we developed Desert Wells...........
There are three kiosks...... one off Hwy 60, one off Hwy 79 and one on the
southwest corner off Skyline Drive. There are 11 gates, all are signed and
have maps on the signs. The kiosks will have maps posted as well as maps
for individual use. I believe the maps are being printed now and should be
out soon. The trails have all been signed but we still have to go back out
and put the "numbers" on the trail signs. Numbers are on order and it's
simply too hot for me right now. All should be finished within the next 30
days or so. A similar project has been done at the Pima and Dynamite area
in conjunction with the preserve. This all came about from all of you that
showed at the meeting in RED about 2 years ago.................
If the OHV Trail riders and rock crawlers don't start paying attention to
the resource impact being done on trails by vehicles that are not capable or
inexperienced drivers we'll be looking at the same type closures.
I'm hopeing this workshop on the 23-24 will get us "on the road" to positive
OHV in the state.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:35 PM
> To: Joe West; Richard Logan; AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
>
> I just renewed my SLP a couple of weeks ago and I had a chance to talk
> to them a little bit. They did give me was a NEW list (dates June 18,
> 2003) of all of the State Land Closures for Dust Control. A total
> acreage of 49,908.04. I will scan it in and put it up on my web site.
> All but 1 area was in Maricopa County. A lot of them are old but there
> are 3 new ones from June 17, 2003 one has acreage of 35,832.96 and that
> is located South of Baseline road and East of the Maricopa County Line
> (Pinal County)
>
> Pretty disheartening
>
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:27 PM
> To: Richard Logan; AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
> Sometime in the next few months, you'll be able to get them off of a
> webpage. IBM has sent their proposal to the state land department and
> it is
> under review now. It is very likely that we (the azvjc) will get to
> review
> the website in beta form before it goes live.
>
> Till then, you need to call or write the SLP office (I'm not sure the
> number
> or address) and request the permits. I don't know if Sandy or anyone
> else
> in the group sells them still... but they may. I'm sure your email will
> bring Sandy out of the woodwork and she'll have all the information you
> need.
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Logan [mailto:rlogan@d...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
>
> Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do not sell
> them
> anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the adams office from Dobsin
> and
> 202 in mesa
>
> Richard Logan
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88896 From: Erik Malm <emalmaz@h...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 9:06pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
I agree, if possible the trailer is awesome. If not, definitely remove the
rear drive shaft. The only other problems that I have seen are 1) will the
front tires track properly? I have seen setups that just don't want to
steer well when being flat towed. 2) If you run a low ring & pinion gear,
and put smaller tires on to tow with you can burn up the R&P. I've seen it
done.
Other than that, it should not be a huge problem, just be careful with the
speed going down hill. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Richards" <darren.richards@m...>
To: "Richard Logan" <rlogan@d...>
Cc: <AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Flat towing
> I'd recommend a trailer if you have access to one or if cost isn't an
> issue. You'll be much more comfortable (and safer) towing with an extra
> set of brakes to help stop you. For me, cost is an issue, so I flat
> tow. Unlock the front hubs and remove the rear driveshaft. The 10
> minutes it takes to remove the drive shaft is well worth the peace of
> mind knowing that there's no way you can do damage to the transmission
> or transfer case....
>
> Richard Logan wrote:
> > I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear with
> > arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds of
> > miles or should I get a trailer
> >
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88897 From: Jeep Girl <jeepgirl73@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 9:04pm
Subject: RE: Re: Damage on the trail
I guess that means I still get to go on the CK run. I will have my
girlfriends be prepared just in case. :-)
Bonnie
"Hail to the Redskins"
-----Original Message-----
From: sharxjeep [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:59 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Damage on the trail
Well now...How could I say no to that :)
Sharky
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeep Girl" <jeepgirl73@c...> wrote:
> I agree with Nichole. I haven't been out on trails because I have
a stock
> jeep but I want to do the Crown King run because I want to learn.
>
> So Sharky if a thong is what I need, tell me because I signed up
for the 9
> am run.
>
> Bonnie
> "Hail to the Redskins"
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nichole [mailto:cj7wheelin@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:26 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Damage on the trail
>
>
> Okay, I need to add my .50 cents, because I am one of those jeepers
> that needs help.
>
> I understand all of the arguments you guys have made and (believe it
> or not) I have had frustrations with being on a trail with another
> jeeper that is not fit for the trail. In fact I have seen jeep and
> driver that were not fit for the trail as well as the driver not
> being fit no matter how well set up the jeep was.
>
> I am no mechanic and do not know how to fix everything on my jeep.
I
> am slowly learning. I maintain it as best I can and if in doubt
> about anything will stay at home. However, things do happen on the
> trail and some things break without warning (hard trail or not) and
> if this happens to me I will probably need help. Now, I do not like
> people working on my jeep without my help (as some can vouch for)
and
> much prefer them to tell me what to do and they sit on the sidelines
> and supervise. So does this mean I should only go on trails rated
at
> 2 or below?? I certainly hope not. My jeep is capable of a lot and
> probably more than I am at this point but I am mindful of that and
> will make sure I talk with the troop leader to make sure.
>
> So, my point is this: Because I don't know how to fix or
> troubleshoot everything on my jeep and do not have every spare part
> possible, does that mean I can't participate, given what I have
> shared above?
>
> I am not trying to argue so much as get everyones opinion since I
> have a slightly different spin/point of view. I have asked this
> question of many people I have wheeled with but would like to know
> the general concensus on this.
>
> ~Nichole
>
> p.s. I am however prepared with the thong if the need arises and all
> else fails! lol
>
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88898 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 9:59pm
Subject: Re: 87 XJ ?'s
You could have got lucky and have a D44 in the rear. Otherwise, its a 35 c
clip. The 8.25 rear ends didnt start until later I believe.
RE, Rustys, Rockkrawler, and several others make LA kits for the XJ.
You should check out the xj group. Lots of good XJ knowledge there and its a
good bunch of people.
The link is http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/arizonaXJ/
(shameless plug.... I know :)
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] 87 XJ ?'s
>Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:10:46 -0700 (PDT)
>
>What type of 5-speed maual did they come with the 4.2L? ax-15? peugot?
>would be even beter if you knew the daystar part number for the tranny
>mount.
>
>Rear axle? d35 DC 8.8 ???????? c-clip???????
>
>I thought there was a long arm kit for the xj's from RE?
>
>I'm a former TJ owner and former member of the AZVJC
>
>thanks
>fifty_dollar_XJ
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88899 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 10:04pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
A few other things to consider...
If you have a locking steering column, you'll need a key in the
ignition and the ignition switch turned to unlock the steering
column to allow your front tires to track/turn. I usually remove the
positive battery cable to avoid draining the battery while the
ignition switch is engaged (old CJ - newer modles may not pull
juice). Also, in "better safe than sorry" mode, I'll also zip tie
the ignition key to prevent any possiblity that it somehow gets
turned off and locks the column while rolling down the road.
Also, if going long distances, I'll drop my windshield to reduce
unnecessary drag. Then I use magnetic tail lights stuck to the rear
bumper with the cable running through the Jeep and over the hood.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Malm" <emalmaz@h...> wrote:
> I agree, if possible the trailer is awesome. If not, definitely
remove the
> rear drive shaft. The only other problems that I have seen are 1)
will the
> front tires track properly? I have seen setups that just don't
want to
> steer well when being flat towed. 2) If you run a low ring &
pinion gear,
> and put smaller tires on to tow with you can burn up the R&P.
I've seen it
> done.
88900 From: barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 10:11pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
GET A TRAILER!
Richard Logan <rlogan@d...> wrote:I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear with arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds of miles or should I get a trailer
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88876 From: Richard Logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:09pm
Subject: Flat towing
I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear with arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds of miles or should I get a trailer
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88877 From: Richard Logan <rlogan@d...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:14pm
Subject: State Land Permits
Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do not sell them anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the adams office from Dobsin and 202 in mesa
Richard Logan
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88878 From: Darren Richards <darren.richards@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:23pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
I'd recommend a trailer if you have access to one or if cost isn't an
issue. You'll be much more comfortable (and safer) towing with an extra
set of brakes to help stop you. For me, cost is an issue, so I flat
tow. Unlock the front hubs and remove the rear driveshaft. The 10
minutes it takes to remove the drive shaft is well worth the peace of
mind knowing that there's no way you can do damage to the transmission
or transfer case....
Richard Logan wrote:
> I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear with
> arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds of
> miles or should I get a trailer
>
>
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88879 From: Darren Richards <darren.richards@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:26pm
Subject: Re: alternator questions
Amen. I've learned the hard way that wrenches are really, really good
conductors of electricity...
-darren
Joe West wrote:
> Joey,
>
> This is something easy to do.... You should have no problems.
>
> I'll give you the first step:
>
> Step 1. DISCONNECT THE NEGATIVE BATTERY CABLE AND PLACE IT TO THE SIDE
> WHERE IT CANNOT COME IN CONTACT WITH THE NEGATIVE BATTERY POST.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:20 PM
> To: jeepclub
> Subject: [az_vjc] alternator questions
>
>
> it seems as though my alternator is going out (tested at autozone). i have
> the service manual, so my question is- is it easy to replace with the manual
> and newbie-mechanical knowledge or should i take it to a shop?
>
>
> TIA
> 94xjoe
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88880 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:26pm
Subject: RE: State Land Permits
Sometime in the next few months, you'll be able to get them off of a
webpage. IBM has sent their proposal to the state land department and it is
under review now. It is very likely that we (the azvjc) will get to review
the website in beta form before it goes live.
Till then, you need to call or write the SLP office (I'm not sure the number
or address) and request the permits. I don't know if Sandy or anyone else
in the group sells them still... but they may. I'm sure your email will
bring Sandy out of the woodwork and she'll have all the information you
need.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Logan [mailto:rlogan@d...]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:14 PM
To: AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do not sell them
anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the adams office from Dobsin and
202 in mesa
Richard Logan
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88881 From: Joe West <joe.west@s...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:35pm
Subject: RE: alternator questions
My first mechanics job, first day on the job, first car I ever touched... I
burned up an entire wiring harness in a new car (back in 79) because I
forgot to disconnect the battery. I watched the harness burn like a fuse...
and total the car. It was kinda cool when it went through the firewall
because the inside of the car filled with smoke... it looked neat!
I was standing there mesmerized watching the harness sizzle it's way from
the alternator up to the firewall and then into the car.
It was I am sad to admit, the first job I was ever fired from :D I was
really glad I wasn't around when they explained to the owner why their car
was worthless.... needless to say; I learned the hard way.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Richards [mailto:darren.richards@m...]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:26 PM
To: Joe West
Cc: Joey Martinez; jeepclub
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] alternator questions
Amen. I've learned the hard way that wrenches are really, really good
conductors of electricity...
-darren
Joe West wrote:
> Joey,
>
> This is something easy to do.... You should have no problems.
>
> I'll give you the first step:
>
> Step 1. DISCONNECT THE NEGATIVE BATTERY CABLE AND PLACE IT TO THE SIDE
> WHERE IT CANNOT COME IN CONTACT WITH THE NEGATIVE BATTERY POST.
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:20 PM
> To: jeepclub
> Subject: [az_vjc] alternator questions
>
>
> it seems as though my alternator is going out (tested at autozone). i have
> the service manual, so my question is- is it easy to replace with the
manual
> and newbie-mechanical knowledge or should i take it to a shop?
>
>
> TIA
> 94xjoe
>
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88882 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:41pm
Subject: Re: RE: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: [ az_vjc] JP magazine.....
I got dibs on tailgunner!
Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...> wrote:That does it ! I'm gonna find me a DJ-3A (Surrey Top) and post a run from
Mesa to Glendale !!
Bob J
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:39 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE:
[az_vjc] JP magazine.....
All,
At the risk of taking an unpopular stance... I don't believe it should
matter whether or not people to choose to drive their Jeeps only on the
street. Who cares if a Rubicon owner chooses to only drive their Rubicon on
asphalt? Who cares if they baby their Jeep and keep it polished, waxed, and
absolutely perfect?
Owning a Jeep isn't about trying to keep up with the "real" Jeep owners
("real" is usually defined by the writer as however they themselves use
their Jeep), but is rather, doing whatever you want to do with your Jeep...
independent of what anyone else thinks.
Rock crawlers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who bash the
hell out of their rigs and don't care about any damage.
Campers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who take their rig
offroad for camping and actually use 4wd some of the time.
Street Jeepers might define "real" as keeping their Jeeps totally stock and
in perfect factory condition and not subjecting it to any abuse at all.
The bottom line is; who cares how people use their Jeep? There is a
systemic attitude among some in our group that "If you don't Jeep like I do"
you aren't a real Jeeper. What a crock!
Here's what defines a real Jeeper:
If you own and drive a Jeep, you are a real Jeeper.
It doesn't matter if you built it, bought it, built and bought it, or
friggen stole the damn Jeep.
For those of you who never take your Jeep offroad... more power to you!
Don't let those in our group who whine about how you choose to use your rig
make you feel like you don't belong.
Joe West
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88883 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 11:42am
Subject: Re: A little different vie of Crown King
Wow, those are some impresive shots. I have been up there a few times when
the condtions wer elike that. Only word I can think of is Magical....... Ok
yeah and some Pucker Factor too.. lol
john k
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88884 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 3:45pm
Subject: RE: alternator questions
very promising guys :)
94xjoe
can't i just pull the battery?
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88885 From: John DeRuiter <wm7a@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 4:00pm
Subject: Re: A little different vie of Crown King
Jayke,
Cool (cold) shots. That is something I would like to do sometime. I love
taking snow photographs too.
John DeRuiter, WM7A
98 TJ http://groups.msn.com/JDsPage/jdspage.msnw
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From: "Jayke Thorpe" <jeepboy_3@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 10:42 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] A little different vie of Crown King
> John, I saw your Crown King pics on your website. Here is a link to my
webshots. It shows Crown King in a slightly different way.
>
> http://community.webshots.com/user/jayole
>
>
> S. Jayke Thorpe
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88886 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 4:06pm
Subject: State Land Permits
The permits can only be sold from the State Land Dept. in Phoenix, Tucson
and Flagstaff or from the Public Lands Information Center in downtown
Phoenix.
Hopefully they will be available via the internet (as Joe states) by the end
of the summer but I wouldn't hold my breath on it. I'm thinking probably
closer to the first of the year.
ASLD
1616 West Adams, Phoenix AZ 85007
602.364.2753 (will reach a recorder.... leave name and address and they will
mail app to you)
DIRECTIONS:
202 to 7th Avenue. South to Washington. West on Washington to 15th Ave.
North on 15th Ave to Monroe (2 blks). West on Monroe to the first street on
your left. You can park along the street or in the parking lot. Enter
through the back doors off the parking lot. (A multi-level parking garage
will be to your left of the ASLD building) Go into back lobby, turn left at
hallway. Desk is on your left.
Public Lands Information Center
222 N. Central (southwest corner of Central and Van Buren)
The PLIC is located in the southeast corner of the BLM building on the
corner. If you park in the ACE parking lot between Central and 1st AVENUE,
you can have your parking ticket validated. They also have any/all maps you
could want.......
3650 Lake Mary Road, Flagstaaff AZ 86001
928.774.1425
233 North Main Ave, Tucson AZ 95701
520.628.5480
That's about all I know.......... hope it helps.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Logan [mailto:rlogan@d...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
>
> Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do
> not sell them anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the
> adams office from Dobsin and 202 in mesa
>
> Richard Logan
>
>
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88887 From: Annie <annie@i...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 5:00pm
Subject: Lynx Lake access
I remember a few months ago someone in the list mentioned they camped up in Prescott by Lynx Lake and it was only accessible by 4x4. Could you email us the directions. We planned on taking a trip up there this weekend.
Thanks in advance
Annie and Tony Axtell
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88888 From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 5:10pm
Subject: 87 XJ ?'s
What type of 5-speed maual did they come with the 4.2L? ax-15? peugot?
would be even beter if you knew the daystar part number for the tranny mount.
Rear axle? d35 DC 8.8 ???????? c-clip???????
I thought there was a long arm kit for the xj's from RE?
I'm a former TJ owner and former member of the AZVJC
thanks
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88889 From: Darren Richards <darren.richards@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 5:31pm
Subject: Re: alternator questions
Removing the negative battery cable has the same affect... If it makes
you feel better you can pull the whole battery, but make sure the
negative cable comes off first, to prevent any possible welding action
with the wrench...
Joey Martinez wrote:
> very promising guys :)
>
> 94xjoe
>
> can't i just pull the battery?
>
>
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88890 From: alleyn59 <alleyn59@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 6:54pm
Subject: Re: alternator questions
I worked at Valley Dodge(Performance Dodge) in the 70's. I once laid
my ring finger onto the battery post of a running alternator... You
can guess the rest.
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> My first mechanics job, first day on the job, first car I ever
touched... I
> burned up an entire wiring harness in a new car (back in 79)
because I
> forgot to disconnect the battery. I watched the harness burn like
a fuse...
> and total the car. It was kinda cool when it went through the
firewall
> because the inside of the car filled with smoke... it looked neat!
> I was standing there mesmerized watching the harness sizzle it's
way from
> the alternator up to the firewall and then into the car.
>
> It was I am sad to admit, the first job I was ever fired from :D I
was
> really glad I wasn't around when they explained to the owner why
their car
> was worthless.... needless to say; I learned the hard way.
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darren Richards [mailto:darren.richards@m...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:26 PM
> To: Joe West
> Cc: Joey Martinez; jeepclub
> Subject: Re: [az_vjc] alternator questions
>
>
> Amen. I've learned the hard way that wrenches are really, really
good
> conductors of electricity...
>
> -darren
>
> Joe West wrote:
> > Joey,
> >
> > This is something easy to do.... You should have no problems.
> >
> > I'll give you the first step:
> >
> > Step 1. DISCONNECT THE NEGATIVE BATTERY CABLE AND PLACE IT TO
THE SIDE
> > WHERE IT CANNOT COME IN CONTACT WITH THE NEGATIVE BATTERY POST.
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> >
> > Joe West
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joey Martinez [mailto:joey@w...]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 2:20 PM
> > To: jeepclub
> > Subject: [az_vjc] alternator questions
> >
> >
> > it seems as though my alternator is going out (tested at
autozone). i have
> > the service manual, so my question is- is it easy to replace with
the
> manual
> > and newbie-mechanical knowledge or should i take it to a shop?
> >
> >
> > TIA
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88891 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 7:29pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
I have a WARN full floater kit in my rear so I have the luxury of
unlocking both front and back hubs.
A trailer is optimal, providing your tow rig is heavy enough and
powerful enough and has proper hookups to activate the trailer
brakes.
If you do flat tow, Darren's advice is the best option. Don't forget
when flat towing it's very difficult to backup more than a few feet
before you jack-knife so plan your parking/stops accordingly.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Darren Richards
<darren.richards@m...> wrote:
> I'd recommend a trailer if you have access to one or if cost isn't
an
> issue. You'll be much more comfortable (and safer) towing with an
extra
> set of brakes to help stop you. For me, cost is an issue, so I
flat
> tow. Unlock the front hubs and remove the rear driveshaft. The
10
> minutes it takes to remove the drive shaft is well worth the peace
of
> mind knowing that there's no way you can do damage to the
transmission
> or transfer case....
>
> Richard Logan wrote:
> > I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear
with
> > arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds
of
> > miles or should I get a trailer
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88892 From: rioshilo <rioshilo@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 8:09pm
Subject: Question on Fullwidth in AZ, also D60 tech?
I was wondering for those that went full width... does it have any
major disadvantages on some of the narrow trails, or can you take any
trails that you took before simply by taking different lines. What
is your width on the outside of the tires? I think I am going to end
up with 82".
I'm also considering converting the D60 rear to 5x5.5. It's a 1970
ford F/F D60 with 8lug. How is this done?
Thanks...
Rio
88893 From: Dan Siegel <cj4rox@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 8:30pm
Subject: Re: Question on Fullwidth in AZ, also D60 tech?
Rio
I'm at 81 inches & it's a world of difference coming from a stock
width CJ. It makes for much more interesting (better) wheeling. In
some cases like the 1st squeeze on Predator it makes the obsticals
more fun by having to go up & straddle the crack. However, I've put
my Jeep on its side in a squeeze on upper Ajax that was too wide to
straddle & wound up being too high to climb one wall. In my stock
width CJ I used to just drive through & up the middle.
But, in tippy situations(white line) or sideways climbing while
turning, you can't beat the stability of the full width.
Dan Siegel
88894 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 8:34pm
Subject: RE: State Land Permits
I just renewed my SLP a couple of weeks ago and I had a chance to talk
to them a little bit. They did give me was a NEW list (dates June 18,
2003) of all of the State Land Closures for Dust Control. A total
acreage of 49,908.04. I will scan it in and put it up on my web site.
All but 1 area was in Maricopa County. A lot of them are old but there
are 3 new ones from June 17, 2003 one has acreage of 35,832.96 and that
is located South of Baseline road and East of the Maricopa County Line
(Pinal County)
Pretty disheartening
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:27 PM
To: Richard Logan; AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Sometime in the next few months, you'll be able to get them off of a
webpage. IBM has sent their proposal to the state land department and
it is
under review now. It is very likely that we (the azvjc) will get to
review
the website in beta form before it goes live.
Till then, you need to call or write the SLP office (I'm not sure the
number
or address) and request the permits. I don't know if Sandy or anyone
else
in the group sells them still... but they may. I'm sure your email will
bring Sandy out of the woodwork and she'll have all the information you
need.
Joe West
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Logan [mailto:rlogan@d...]
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:14 PM
To: AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do not sell
them
anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the adams office from Dobsin
and
202 in mesa
Richard Logan
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88895 From: Sandee McCullen <mccullen@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 8:48pm
Subject: RE: State Land Permits
Joe,
All these areas are small urban areas that are being trashed by the "after
school crowd with ATV and bikes"...... Maricopa County and soon to be
Pinal, are being held tight to the PM-10 Air Quality ratings. Hopefully
riding areas such as the new Desert Wells area just east of Apache Junction
will help with the dust problems in the urban areas. The area just east of
Maricopa County line is the M.P. 201 area in Gold Canyon. 32,000 acres were
closed to OHV but we mapped and signed 86,000 with 200 miles of trails just
east of this area ............... Desert Wells Multi-Use Area. The area
along Ironwood Rd and Hwy 60 at the M.P. 201 was being outright devastated
by OHV......... again, mostly ATV's and Bikes but they were destroying the
ranchers tanks (using the banks as jumps) and the CAP that runs parallel
with Ironwood Rd looks like a moonscape. Several riders have been killed in
the past couple of years trying to jump the canal. The drug and rave
parties had become massive. Air Quality Control wanted ALL closed but with
"sitting at the table" with the ranchers, AQC, County of Pinal, Game & Fish,
ASLD, OHV Recreationists and Hunters, we developed Desert Wells...........
There are three kiosks...... one off Hwy 60, one off Hwy 79 and one on the
southwest corner off Skyline Drive. There are 11 gates, all are signed and
have maps on the signs. The kiosks will have maps posted as well as maps
for individual use. I believe the maps are being printed now and should be
out soon. The trails have all been signed but we still have to go back out
and put the "numbers" on the trail signs. Numbers are on order and it's
simply too hot for me right now. All should be finished within the next 30
days or so. A similar project has been done at the Pima and Dynamite area
in conjunction with the preserve. This all came about from all of you that
showed at the meeting in RED about 2 years ago.................
If the OHV Trail riders and rock crawlers don't start paying attention to
the resource impact being done on trails by vehicles that are not capable or
inexperienced drivers we'll be looking at the same type closures.
I'm hopeing this workshop on the 23-24 will get us "on the road" to positive
OHV in the state.
Sandee
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe-CJ7 [mailto:Joe-CJ7@j...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 8:35 PM
> To: Joe West; Richard Logan; AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
>
> I just renewed my SLP a couple of weeks ago and I had a chance to talk
> to them a little bit. They did give me was a NEW list (dates June 18,
> 2003) of all of the State Land Closures for Dust Control. A total
> acreage of 49,908.04. I will scan it in and put it up on my web site.
> All but 1 area was in Maricopa County. A lot of them are old but there
> are 3 new ones from June 17, 2003 one has acreage of 35,832.96 and that
> is located South of Baseline road and East of the Maricopa County Line
> (Pinal County)
>
> Pretty disheartening
>
>
> Joe Kearney
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe West [mailto:joe.west@s...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:27 PM
> To: Richard Logan; AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
> Sometime in the next few months, you'll be able to get them off of a
> webpage. IBM has sent their proposal to the state land department and
> it is
> under review now. It is very likely that we (the azvjc) will get to
> review
> the website in beta form before it goes live.
>
> Till then, you need to call or write the SLP office (I'm not sure the
> number
> or address) and request the permits. I don't know if Sandy or anyone
> else
> in the group sells them still... but they may. I'm sure your email will
> bring Sandy out of the woodwork and she'll have all the information you
> need.
>
> Joe West
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Logan [mailto:rlogan@d...]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:14 PM
> To: AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] State Land Permits
>
>
> Mine just expired I got mine last years at 4 wheelers. they do not sell
> them
> anymore. Can anybody tell me how to get to the adams office from Dobsin
> and
> 202 in mesa
>
> Richard Logan
>
>
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88896 From: Erik Malm <emalmaz@h...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 9:06pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
I agree, if possible the trailer is awesome. If not, definitely remove the
rear drive shaft. The only other problems that I have seen are 1) will the
front tires track properly? I have seen setups that just don't want to
steer well when being flat towed. 2) If you run a low ring & pinion gear,
and put smaller tires on to tow with you can burn up the R&P. I've seen it
done.
Other than that, it should not be a huge problem, just be careful with the
speed going down hill. :)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Richards" <darren.richards@m...>
To: "Richard Logan" <rlogan@d...>
Cc: <AZundertakers@yahoogroups.com>; <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Flat towing
> I'd recommend a trailer if you have access to one or if cost isn't an
> issue. You'll be much more comfortable (and safer) towing with an extra
> set of brakes to help stop you. For me, cost is an issue, so I flat
> tow. Unlock the front hubs and remove the rear driveshaft. The 10
> minutes it takes to remove the drive shaft is well worth the peace of
> mind knowing that there's no way you can do damage to the transmission
> or transfer case....
>
> Richard Logan wrote:
> > I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear with
> > arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds of
> > miles or should I get a trailer
> >
> >
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88897 From: Jeep Girl <jeepgirl73@c...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 9:04pm
Subject: RE: Re: Damage on the trail
I guess that means I still get to go on the CK run. I will have my
girlfriends be prepared just in case. :-)
Bonnie
"Hail to the Redskins"
-----Original Message-----
From: sharxjeep [mailto:sharxjeep@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 9:59 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Damage on the trail
Well now...How could I say no to that :)
Sharky
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Jeep Girl" <jeepgirl73@c...> wrote:
> I agree with Nichole. I haven't been out on trails because I have
a stock
> jeep but I want to do the Crown King run because I want to learn.
>
> So Sharky if a thong is what I need, tell me because I signed up
for the 9
> am run.
>
> Bonnie
> "Hail to the Redskins"
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nichole [mailto:cj7wheelin@h...]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 3:26 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Damage on the trail
>
>
> Okay, I need to add my .50 cents, because I am one of those jeepers
> that needs help.
>
> I understand all of the arguments you guys have made and (believe it
> or not) I have had frustrations with being on a trail with another
> jeeper that is not fit for the trail. In fact I have seen jeep and
> driver that were not fit for the trail as well as the driver not
> being fit no matter how well set up the jeep was.
>
> I am no mechanic and do not know how to fix everything on my jeep.
I
> am slowly learning. I maintain it as best I can and if in doubt
> about anything will stay at home. However, things do happen on the
> trail and some things break without warning (hard trail or not) and
> if this happens to me I will probably need help. Now, I do not like
> people working on my jeep without my help (as some can vouch for)
and
> much prefer them to tell me what to do and they sit on the sidelines
> and supervise. So does this mean I should only go on trails rated
at
> 2 or below?? I certainly hope not. My jeep is capable of a lot and
> probably more than I am at this point but I am mindful of that and
> will make sure I talk with the troop leader to make sure.
>
> So, my point is this: Because I don't know how to fix or
> troubleshoot everything on my jeep and do not have every spare part
> possible, does that mean I can't participate, given what I have
> shared above?
>
> I am not trying to argue so much as get everyones opinion since I
> have a slightly different spin/point of view. I have asked this
> question of many people I have wheeled with but would like to know
> the general concensus on this.
>
> ~Nichole
>
> p.s. I am however prepared with the thong if the need arises and all
> else fails! lol
>
>
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88898 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 9:59pm
Subject: Re: 87 XJ ?'s
You could have got lucky and have a D44 in the rear. Otherwise, its a 35 c
clip. The 8.25 rear ends didnt start until later I believe.
RE, Rustys, Rockkrawler, and several others make LA kits for the XJ.
You should check out the xj group. Lots of good XJ knowledge there and its a
good bunch of people.
The link is http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/arizonaXJ/
(shameless plug.... I know :)
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
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>From: D W <fiftydollarxj@y...>
>To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [az_vjc] 87 XJ ?'s
>Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 17:10:46 -0700 (PDT)
>
>What type of 5-speed maual did they come with the 4.2L? ax-15? peugot?
>would be even beter if you knew the daystar part number for the tranny
>mount.
>
>Rear axle? d35 DC 8.8 ???????? c-clip???????
>
>I thought there was a long arm kit for the xj's from RE?
>
>I'm a former TJ owner and former member of the AZVJC
>
>thanks
>fifty_dollar_XJ
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88899 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 10:04pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
A few other things to consider...
If you have a locking steering column, you'll need a key in the
ignition and the ignition switch turned to unlock the steering
column to allow your front tires to track/turn. I usually remove the
positive battery cable to avoid draining the battery while the
ignition switch is engaged (old CJ - newer modles may not pull
juice). Also, in "better safe than sorry" mode, I'll also zip tie
the ignition key to prevent any possiblity that it somehow gets
turned off and locks the column while rolling down the road.
Also, if going long distances, I'll drop my windshield to reduce
unnecessary drag. Then I use magnetic tail lights stuck to the rear
bumper with the cable running through the Jeep and over the hood.
Matt
K7MTO
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Erik Malm" <emalmaz@h...> wrote:
> I agree, if possible the trailer is awesome. If not, definitely
remove the
> rear drive shaft. The only other problems that I have seen are 1)
will the
> front tires track properly? I have seen setups that just don't
want to
> steer well when being flat towed. 2) If you run a low ring &
pinion gear,
> and put smaller tires on to tow with you can burn up the R&P.
I've seen it
> done.
88900 From: barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...>
Date: Thu Aug 7, 2003 10:11pm
Subject: Re: Flat towing
GET A TRAILER!
Richard Logan <rlogan@d...> wrote:I have a 5 speed with locking hubs etc d44 front and 9in rear with arbs will I run into problems with it in neutral going hundreds of miles or should I get a trailer
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