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88776 From: Michael Beckham <jeepnut7261@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:23pm
Subject: Re: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: JP magazine.....
In general, I agree. It's more of a spiritual thing. If you enjoy it, on road or off, stock or custom, congratulations! You're a jeeper!
2000TJ 4" Teraflex 33's
other custom stuff
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe West
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: [az_vjc] JP magazine.....
All,
At the risk of taking an unpopular stance... I don't believe it should
matter whether or not people to choose to drive their Jeeps only on the
street. Who cares if a Rubicon owner chooses to only drive their Rubicon on
asphalt? Who cares if they baby their Jeep and keep it polished, waxed, and
absolutely perfect?
Owning a Jeep isn't about trying to keep up with the "real" Jeep owners
("real" is usually defined by the writer as however they themselves use
their Jeep), but is rather, doing whatever you want to do with your Jeep...
independent of what anyone else thinks.
Rock crawlers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who bash the
hell out of their rigs and don't care about any damage.
Campers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who take their rig
offroad for camping and actually use 4wd some of the time.
Street Jeepers might define "real" as keeping their Jeeps totally stock and
in perfect factory condition and not subjecting it to any abuse at all.
The bottom line is; who cares how people use their Jeep? There is a
systemic attitude among some in our group that "If you don't Jeep like I do"
you aren't a real Jeeper. What a crock!
Here's what defines a real Jeeper:
If you own and drive a Jeep, you are a real Jeeper.
It doesn't matter if you built it, bought it, built and bought it, or
friggen stole the damn Jeep.
For those of you who never take your Jeep offroad... more power to you!
Don't let those in our group who whine about how you choose to use your rig
make you feel like you don't belong.
Joe West
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88777 From: b h <xjnation@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:24pm
Subject: Re: JP magazine.....
Well I think it would be on the top of my list of
Jeeps not to own also....its not as capable as
hoped..Ive wheeled with ones and not impressed...Id
take my 4,000.00 xj over the Rubicon any day....Its
become the ultimate SOCAL yuppie mobile
--- "S.R.D." <sreggiedavis@y...> wrote:
> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon
> as one of the
> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It
> appears that the
> editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are
> dorks. Away goes my
> desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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88778 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:32pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Depending on the particular Jeep, you could have some
less-than-desirable components on your 87. The 5spd trannies were the
Peugot BA-10(?), the t-case could be an NP-207, it's got the carb on the
4.2L, and it was first year production of YJ's.
On the good side, the D35 was non c-clipped.
Of those things, only the 207 was an 87 only thing...and I don't think
it was a 100% deal either. I don't even know what makes the 207 any
different from a 231. I swear I have a 231 in mine, although ½ the
t-case was replaced and now there is no tag. I have the TF-999 auto, so
no weak tranny. I sometimes need to buy parts from CJ's, as opposed to
what the books/computers say my YJ is supposed to have!
I just figure the 87 is special and allows me to be "cool" with the old
school CJ guys as well as the new YJ guys. Won't even try to fit in
with the TJ crew...they have funny round things that resemble serpents
holding up their Jeeps! ;-)
TJ
>>> "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...> 8/6/2003 12:20:02 PM >>>
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...>
>To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D." <sreggiedavis@y...>
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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88779 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:40pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
XJ's have a little YJ in them (square headlights and rear leafs), but a
little TJ (front end is identical). So we dont fit in anywhere :)
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson" <TJacobson@t...>
>To: <badazxj@m...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:32:05 -0700
>
>Depending on the particular Jeep, you could have some
>less-than-desirable components on your 87. The 5spd trannies were the
>Peugot BA-10(?), the t-case could be an NP-207, it's got the carb on the
>4.2L, and it was first year production of YJ's.
>
>On the good side, the D35 was non c-clipped.
>
>Of those things, only the 207 was an 87 only thing...and I don't think
>it was a 100% deal either. I don't even know what makes the 207 any
>different from a 231. I swear I have a 231 in mine, although ½ the
>t-case was replaced and now there is no tag. I have the TF-999 auto, so
>no weak tranny. I sometimes need to buy parts from CJ's, as opposed to
>what the books/computers say my YJ is supposed to have!
>
>I just figure the 87 is special and allows me to be "cool" with the old
>school CJ guys as well as the new YJ guys. Won't even try to fit in
>with the TJ crew...they have funny round things that resemble serpents
>holding up their Jeeps! ;-)
>
>TJ
>
> >>> "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...> 8/6/2003 12:20:02 PM >>>
>
>Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
>
>other years?
>
>Frank
>http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
>http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...>
> >To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
> >Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
> >
> >They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
> >Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >Message: 9
> > Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> > From: "S.R.D." <sreggiedavis@y...>
> >Subject: JP magazine.....
> >
> >Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
> >top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
> >editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
> >desire to subscribe....
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
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88780 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:47pm
Subject: RE: Finishing up my OBA.
3/8" hose is pretty standard but if you are using it directly off the
York outlet you will want a very high temp tolerable one. I am using a
few feet of hydraulic hose but the hose that semi's use for air breaks
works well too. You can find both at NAPA.
You may also want an outlet filter as well. Any will work provided you
keep it far enough away from the York's outlet heat.
You will also want to install a fuse (5 amp?) just to be safe. Also be
sure to have this switched with the key. I can't tell you how much blood
and sweat I have put in to fixing the Jeep's electrical system because
the battery was drained.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ablockalypse@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:25 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Finishing up my OBA.
Got the York installed and working. Now I need to plumb everything.
From my research I think I have a full shopping list but feel free to
chime in with whatever I leave off.
Inlet filter (any ideas for this one?)
Pressure switch/regulator
Check valve
pressure guage
tank
Popoff valve
In cab master switch
hose
manifold
I'm guessing I can get some of this stuff at Harbor Freight. Any idea
of a good quailty/price tank? Also, what would you recommend for hose
size? I'm trying to get this finished up this weekend so I don't have
to "borrow" air on the CK run. Anyone with advice or an extra set of
hand is welcome to come by this weekend.
Thanks,
Phil
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88781 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:59pm
Subject: Re: Finishing up my OBA.
Very good idea Joey. In the ZJ, we used auto A/C compressor hose
since it can handle the pressure and the heat. We got a set off a
salvaged XJ. It added a little to the overall cost.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> 3/8" hose is pretty standard but if you are using it directly off
the
> York outlet you will want a very high temp tolerable one. I am
using a
> few feet of hydraulic hose but the hose that semi's use for air
breaks
> works well too. You can find both at NAPA.
>
> You may also want an outlet filter as well. Any will work provided
you
> keep it far enough away from the York's outlet heat.
>
> You will also want to install a fuse (5 amp?) just to be safe. Also
be
> sure to have this switched with the key. I can't tell you how much
blood
> and sweat I have put in to fixing the Jeep's electrical system
because
> the battery was drained.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ablockalypse@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:25 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Finishing up my OBA.
>
> Got the York installed and working. Now I need to plumb everything.
> From my research I think I have a full shopping list but feel free
to
> chime in with whatever I leave off.
>
> Inlet filter (any ideas for this one?)
> Pressure switch/regulator
> Check valve
> pressure guage
> tank
> Popoff valve
> In cab master switch
> hose
> manifold
>
> I'm guessing I can get some of this stuff at Harbor Freight. Any
idea
> of a good quailty/price tank? Also, what would you recommend for
hose
> size? I'm trying to get this finished up this weekend so I don't
have
> to "borrow" air on the CK run. Anyone with advice or an extra set
of
> hand is welcome to come by this weekend.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
>
>
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88782 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 1:58pm
Subject: Re: JP magazine.....
Top ten publicaitons to never buy:
10. Oprah's
9. Psycology Today
8. Lowrider
7. Mini Truk'n
6. Teen
5. YM
4. National Enquirer
3. Sierra Club Newsletter
2. Rosie Odonnells Newsletter
1. JP
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Ken Henson <khenson@c...> wrote:
> >> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of
the
> >> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own??
> >
> > What are the other ones?
> >
>
>
> GARBAGE TRUCKS - The Top 10 Jeeps We'd Never Own
> by John Cappa & Christian Hazel
>
> '72 - 73 Jeepster Commando
>
> '84 - '86 XJ
>
> '57 - '65 FC-150 or FC-170
>
> Liberty
>
> Wrangler Rubicon
>
> DJ Surrey
>
> Anything Resto
>
> Any Jeep with a Name Emblazoned Across the Hood Sides
>
> '87 YJ
>
> '65 - '82 DJ-5A through DJ-5L Postal Jeeps
>
> '91 - '93 YJ Renegade
88783 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:09pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 2, 2003
Hello All,
Brad Rogers lead a trail run Saturday, August 2, 2003 across Crown King from Lake Pleasant
Unfortuntely I didn't meet up with Bill and Patrick until the end at Crown King. We all had a good time though. The beer was cold and the stories made up for the long trip. Good time, everyone should run this trail in a Jeep. One guy in particular wasn't so lucky. A 2500 Dodge pickup had rolled off an obstacle and into the canyon. Nice truck, keys still in it and she starts up. Good luck pulling it out of the ravine. <br>
<br>
Good time....<br>
<br>
<br>
Brad Rogers
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=972
Click the above link to View Pictures (if available)Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
88784 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:23pm
Subject: Re: Re: I am in BIG Trouble
3/8" strap will get you whatever size shackles you need! Don't forget you
will get some settleing if those springs are new.
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:13 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: I am in BIG Trouble
> I would love to run stock height shackles, but 4 Wheelers Supply
> doesn't carry them (or so I am told) and I cannot run the junk that
> was on it. :P
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...> wrote:
> > James, run stock height shackles and do not run the 3.5 springs,
> unless your running 44's. Add some springs to the stock yj springs
> and run it hard.
> >
> > James Towle <James.Towle@a...> wrote:Chris,
> >
> > I think I am going to put the stock YJ springs on tomorrow and see
> how it
> > looks. These are 3.5" springs.
> >
> > If I got a flat tire by my self I would have more problems, I
> wouldn't be
> > able to get the thing in the back.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:27 PM
> > To: James Towle
> > Cc: AZ_VJC
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] I am in BIG Trouble
> >
> >
> > Just think of all the clearance you'll have over the rocks.
> >
> > Seriously though, why not just switch to a SUA setup. Looks like
> that
> > would drop it down enough. Not as much axlewrap then either.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 07:27 PM, James Towle wrote:
> >
> > > I got the tub on this evening. I am in big trouble. I am not
> going to
> > > be
> > > able to get in, out shouldn't be a problem (just fall).
> > >
> > > http://members.cox.net/jeepin1/DSC01969.JPG
> > >
> > > Oh shoot, time to back figure. Good thing I didn't order shocks
> yet.
> > >
> > > --James
> > >
> > > Thank you all that responded to my help needed call.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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88785 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:39pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Whew, thank goodness Woman's Day wasn't on there. :-)
But seriously, despite poor taste sometimes and articles that seem to serve
advertisers, they do have some neat articles. I also like to see new
products coming down the pike. And heck, it's only like $1.25 or so an issue
when you subscribe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
> Top ten publicaitons to never buy:
>
> 10. Oprah's
> 9. Psycology Today
> 8. Lowrider
> 7. Mini Truk'n
> 6. Teen
> 5. YM
> 4. National Enquirer
> 3. Sierra Club Newsletter
> 2. Rosie Odonnells Newsletter
> 1. JP
>
>
> Chris
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Ken Henson <khenson@c...> wrote:
> > >> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of
> the
> > >> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own??
> > >
> > > What are the other ones?
> > >
> >
> >
> > GARBAGE TRUCKS - The Top 10 Jeeps We'd Never Own
> > by John Cappa & Christian Hazel
> >
> > '72 - 73 Jeepster Commando
> >
> > '84 - '86 XJ
> >
> > '57 - '65 FC-150 or FC-170
> >
> > Liberty
> >
> > Wrangler Rubicon
> >
> > DJ Surrey
> >
> > Anything Resto
> >
> > Any Jeep with a Name Emblazoned Across the Hood Sides
> >
> > '87 YJ
> >
> > '65 - '82 DJ-5A through DJ-5L Postal Jeeps
> >
> > '91 - '93 YJ Renegade
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
88786 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:45pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...> wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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>
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88787 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:49pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
However, not one of those, or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...> 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...> wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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88788 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:50pm
Subject: Re: Finishing up my OBA.
Here's my OBA writeup to give you an idea of what you need:
http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/oba.html
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 11:24 AM, Phil Thompson wrote:
> Got the York installed and working. Now I need to plumb everything.
> From my research I think I have a full shopping list but feel free to
> chime in with whatever I leave off.
>
> Inlet filter (any ideas for this one?)
> Pressure switch/regulator
> Check valve
> pressure guage
> tank
> Popoff valve
> In cab master switch
> hose
> manifold
>
> I'm guessing I can get some of this stuff at Harbor Freight. Any idea
> of a good quailty/price tank? Also, what would you recommend for hose
> size? I'm trying to get this finished up this weekend so I don't have
> to "borrow" air on the CK run. Anyone with advice or an extra set of
> hand is welcome to come by this weekend.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
88789 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:53pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Let me add #11 RiceBoyRacer
Chris <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:Top ten publicaitons to never buy:
10. Oprah's
9. Psycology Today
8. Lowrider
7. Mini Truk'n
6. Teen
5. YM
4. National Enquirer
3. Sierra Club Newsletter
2. Rosie Odonnells Newsletter
1. JP
Chris
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--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Ken Henson wrote:
> >> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of
the
> >> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own??
> >
> > What are the other ones?
> >
>
>
> GARBAGE TRUCKS - The Top 10 Jeeps We'd Never Own
> by John Cappa & Christian Hazel
>
> '72 - 73 Jeepster Commando
>
> '84 - '86 XJ
>
> '57 - '65 FC-150 or FC-170
>
> Liberty
>
> Wrangler Rubicon
>
> DJ Surrey
>
> Anything Resto
>
> Any Jeep with a Name Emblazoned Across the Hood Sides
>
> '87 YJ
>
> '65 - '82 DJ-5A through DJ-5L Postal Jeeps
>
> '91 - '93 YJ Renegade
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88790 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:57pm
Subject: Re: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: JP magazine.....
Well said Joe, especially since you and I never take ours offroad. Some
day.....
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Joe West wrote:
> All,
>
> At the risk of taking an unpopular stance... I don't believe it should
> matter whether or not people to choose to drive their Jeeps only on the
> street. Who cares if a Rubicon owner chooses to only drive their
> Rubicon on
> asphalt? Who cares if they baby their Jeep and keep it polished,
> waxed, and
> absolutely perfect?
>
> Owning a Jeep isn't about trying to keep up with the "real" Jeep owners
> ("real" is usually defined by the writer as however they themselves use
> their Jeep), but is rather, doing whatever you want to do with your
> Jeep...
> independent of what anyone else thinks.
>
> Rock crawlers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who
> bash the
> hell out of their rigs and don't care about any damage.
>
> Campers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who take
> their rig
> offroad for camping and actually use 4wd some of the time.
>
> Street Jeepers might define "real" as keeping their Jeeps totally
> stock and
> in perfect factory condition and not subjecting it to any abuse at all.
>
> The bottom line is; who cares how people use their Jeep? There is a
> systemic attitude among some in our group that "If you don't Jeep like
> I do"
> you aren't a real Jeeper. What a crock!
>
> Here's what defines a real Jeeper:
>
> If you own and drive a Jeep, you are a real Jeeper.
>
> It doesn't matter if you built it, bought it, built and bought it, or
> friggen stole the damn Jeep.
>
> For those of you who never take your Jeep offroad... more power to you!
> Don't let those in our group who whine about how you choose to use
> your rig
> make you feel like you don't belong.
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
88791 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:59pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Check mine on AZVJC. I like it, but have taken crap for the headlight thing.
Tom Jacobson <TJacobson@t...> wrote:However, not one of those, or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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88792 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:04pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Yeah, no prob. All I'm saying is that you can get all of those things
you mentioned in any YJ from 87 thru 90.
I THINK the only thing not offered any other year (and not even thru
all of 87) is the NP207 T-Case.
TJ
ps. Square headlights \m/ ROCK!!!! \m/
>>> Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...> 8/6/2003 2:59:31 PM >>>
Check mine on AZVJC. I like it, but have taken crap for the headlight
thing.
Tom Jacobson <TJacobson@t...> wrote:However, not one of those,
or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different
from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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>
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88793 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:05pm
Subject:
i had a clunk a while back that mysteriously went away, but as soon as i turned out of my driveway yesterday morning i noticed it again, the when i was adjusting my shocks (they are at 3 now; thx joe and randy for your input)i noticed the grease or 'goo' as my roomate called it
i was just wondering if the 'goo' in pic one is what is causing the clunking in the Jeep when i turn, it is the drivers side. pic two is the passenger side
and if it is causing the clunk, is it relatively easy to fix, or should i pay a shop?
also, in pic three is the rust going to be an issue, and if so can i paint over it, to sort of 'seal' it?
www.vernspennies.com/jeep3.htm
any input much appreciated
94xjoe
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88794 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:06pm
Subject: clunking caused by?
sorry no subject in the first one doh'
i had a clunk a while back that mysteriously went away, but as soon as i turned out of my driveway yesterday morning i noticed it again, the when i was adjusting my shocks (they are at 3 now; thx joe and randy for your input)i noticed the grease or 'goo' as my roomate called it
i was just wondering if the 'goo' in pic one is what is causing the clunking in the Jeep when i turn, it is the drivers side. pic two is the passenger side
and if it is causing the clunk, is it relatively easy to fix, or should i pay a shop?
also, in pic three is the rust going to be an issue, and if so can i paint over it, to sort of 'seal' it?
www.vernspennies.com/jeep3.htm
any input much appreciated
94xjoe
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88795 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:15pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Mine came with a 231...don't know if it was swapped, or the factory slipped some of them in.
Tom Jacobson <TJacobson@t...> wrote:Yeah, no prob. All I'm saying is that you can get all of those things
you mentioned in any YJ from 87 thru 90.
I THINK the only thing not offered any other year (and not even thru
all of 87) is the NP207 T-Case.
TJ
ps. Square headlights \m/ ROCK!!!! \m/
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:59:31 PM >>>
Check mine on AZVJC. I like it, but have taken crap for the headlight
thing.
Tom Jacobson wrote:However, not one of those,
or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different
from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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88796 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:19pm
Subject: Transmissions Work
My friend has an 85 CJ7 with manual transmission and he says his clutch
is going. Does or can anyone recommend a good transmission shop or can
anyone help him out?
His name is Don Wyatt (don@c...)
Or email me and I will get this info to him.
Thanks
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
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88797 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Let the round light coalition say what they want. My other ****box (2001 XJ), also is rectangular.
Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...> wrote:Yeah, no prob. All I'm saying is that you can get all of those things
you mentioned in any YJ from 87 thru 90.
I THINK the only thing not offered any other year (and not even thru
all of 87) is the NP207 T-Case.
TJ
ps. Square headlights \m/ ROCK!!!! \m/
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:59:31 PM >>>
Check mine on AZVJC. I like it, but have taken crap for the headlight
thing.
Tom Jacobson wrote:However, not one of those,
or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different
from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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88798 From: CANT W8 <rlpii@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:39pm
Subject: Re: Transmissions Work
I had my clutch and throw out bearing done at 4 Wheelers Supply. I'd
recommend that he change the bearing too when he does it. Anyway,
they did mine about 3 years ago and no problem since. I have a
Centerforce clutch with stock trans and a 360.
HTH
Bob
74 CJ-5
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe-CJ7" <Joe-CJ7@j...> wrote:
> My friend has an 85 CJ7 with manual transmission and he says his clutch
> is going. Does or can anyone recommend a good transmission shop or can
> anyone help him out?
>
>
>
> His name is Don Wyatt (don@c...)
>
> Or email me and I will get this info to him.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Joe Kearney
>
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
88799 From: Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 4:05pm
Subject: RE: Re: JP magazine.....
Being relatively new to the sport and a subscriber to JP, I must admit I've
seen some pretty bizarre articles and viewpoints expressed in that mag !!
But I still think one of those surrey topped 2wd would be fun to drive
around the neighborhood shouting De Plane !! De Plane !!
Bob J (Still got the Banner)
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hooven [mailto:whooven@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
Whew, thank goodness Woman's Day wasn't on there. :-)
But seriously, despite poor taste sometimes and articles that seem to serve
advertisers, they do have some neat articles. I also like to see new
products coming down the pike. And heck, it's only like $1.25 or so an issue
when you subscribe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
> Top ten publicaitons to never buy:
>
> 10. Oprah's
> 9. Psycology Today
> 8. Lowrider
> 7. Mini Truk'n
> 6. Teen
> 5. YM
> 4. National Enquirer
> 3. Sierra Club Newsletter
> 2. Rosie Odonnells Newsletter
> 1. JP
>
>
> Chris
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Ken Henson <khenson@c...> wrote:
> > >> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of
> the
> > >> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own??
> > >
> > > What are the other ones?
> > >
> >
> >
> > GARBAGE TRUCKS - The Top 10 Jeeps We'd Never Own
> > by John Cappa & Christian Hazel
> >
> > '72 - 73 Jeepster Commando
> >
> > '84 - '86 XJ
> >
> > '57 - '65 FC-150 or FC-170
> >
> > Liberty
> >
> > Wrangler Rubicon
> >
> > DJ Surrey
> >
> > Anything Resto
> >
> > Any Jeep with a Name Emblazoned Across the Hood Sides
> >
> > '87 YJ
> >
> > '65 - '82 DJ-5A through DJ-5L Postal Jeeps
> >
> > '91 - '93 YJ Renegade
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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88800 From: Scott <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 4:21pm
Subject: Re: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: JP magazine.....
Hi Joe,
Well golly darnit! I think we just might agree on something.
Lockers and 37's is not what makes a real Jeep. It's what is in your
heart. It's that irresistable urge when you walk away from your Jeep
to look back to make sure its okay. Its tucking your Jeep in at
night (pushing the garage door button, watch the door close, give it
a last look before turning off the garage light and going inside).
I've had a YJ and a TJ. I've done what I would consider some hard
rock trails over the past 8 years. Now I've moved on to something
new and different.
My next Jeep (yes, there is one in the works I will post an update
in the near future) will no doubt be purchased and built with a
different purpose in mind. It's been really exciting searching for
this next Jeep. (I'm going to go look at another possibility here in
the next hour).
Anyway, as long as it has a "Jeep" stamp, emblem, or decal on it
then it's a Jeep! (Or Willys :)
Later,
Scott K
(Still temporarily Jeepless)
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> All,
>
> At the risk of taking an unpopular stance... I don't believe it
should
> matter whether or not people to choose to drive their Jeeps only
on the
> street. Who cares if a Rubicon owner chooses to only drive their
Rubicon on
> asphalt? Who cares if they baby their Jeep and keep it polished,
waxed, and
> absolutely perfect?
>
> Owning a Jeep isn't about trying to keep up with the "real" Jeep
owners
> ("real" is usually defined by the writer as however they
themselves use
> their Jeep), but is rather, doing whatever you want to do with
your Jeep...
> independent of what anyone else thinks.
>
> Rock crawlers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who
bash the
> hell out of their rigs and don't care about any damage.
>
> Campers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who take
their rig
> offroad for camping and actually use 4wd some of the time.
>
> Street Jeepers might define "real" as keeping their Jeeps totally
stock and
> in perfect factory condition and not subjecting it to any abuse at
all.
>
> The bottom line is; who cares how people use their Jeep? There is
a
> systemic attitude among some in our group that "If you don't Jeep
like I do"
> you aren't a real Jeeper. What a crock!
>
> Here's what defines a real Jeeper:
>
> If you own and drive a Jeep, you are a real Jeeper.
>
> It doesn't matter if you built it, bought it, built and bought it,
or
> friggen stole the damn Jeep.
>
> For those of you who never take your Jeep offroad... more power to
you!
> Don't let those in our group who whine about how you choose to use
your rig
> make you feel like you don't belong.
>
> Joe West
88776 From: Michael Beckham <jeepnut7261@h...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:23pm
Subject: Re: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: JP magazine.....
In general, I agree. It's more of a spiritual thing. If you enjoy it, on road or off, stock or custom, congratulations! You're a jeeper!
2000TJ 4" Teraflex 33's
other custom stuff
----- Original Message -----
From: Joe West
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:39 AM
Subject: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: [az_vjc] JP magazine.....
All,
At the risk of taking an unpopular stance... I don't believe it should
matter whether or not people to choose to drive their Jeeps only on the
street. Who cares if a Rubicon owner chooses to only drive their Rubicon on
asphalt? Who cares if they baby their Jeep and keep it polished, waxed, and
absolutely perfect?
Owning a Jeep isn't about trying to keep up with the "real" Jeep owners
("real" is usually defined by the writer as however they themselves use
their Jeep), but is rather, doing whatever you want to do with your Jeep...
independent of what anyone else thinks.
Rock crawlers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who bash the
hell out of their rigs and don't care about any damage.
Campers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who take their rig
offroad for camping and actually use 4wd some of the time.
Street Jeepers might define "real" as keeping their Jeeps totally stock and
in perfect factory condition and not subjecting it to any abuse at all.
The bottom line is; who cares how people use their Jeep? There is a
systemic attitude among some in our group that "If you don't Jeep like I do"
you aren't a real Jeeper. What a crock!
Here's what defines a real Jeeper:
If you own and drive a Jeep, you are a real Jeeper.
It doesn't matter if you built it, bought it, built and bought it, or
friggen stole the damn Jeep.
For those of you who never take your Jeep offroad... more power to you!
Don't let those in our group who whine about how you choose to use your rig
make you feel like you don't belong.
Joe West
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88777 From: b h <xjnation@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:24pm
Subject: Re: JP magazine.....
Well I think it would be on the top of my list of
Jeeps not to own also....its not as capable as
hoped..Ive wheeled with ones and not impressed...Id
take my 4,000.00 xj over the Rubicon any day....Its
become the ultimate SOCAL yuppie mobile
--- "S.R.D." <sreggiedavis@y...> wrote:
> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon
> as one of the
> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It
> appears that the
> editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are
> dorks. Away goes my
> desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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88778 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:32pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Depending on the particular Jeep, you could have some
less-than-desirable components on your 87. The 5spd trannies were the
Peugot BA-10(?), the t-case could be an NP-207, it's got the carb on the
4.2L, and it was first year production of YJ's.
On the good side, the D35 was non c-clipped.
Of those things, only the 207 was an 87 only thing...and I don't think
it was a 100% deal either. I don't even know what makes the 207 any
different from a 231. I swear I have a 231 in mine, although ½ the
t-case was replaced and now there is no tag. I have the TF-999 auto, so
no weak tranny. I sometimes need to buy parts from CJ's, as opposed to
what the books/computers say my YJ is supposed to have!
I just figure the 87 is special and allows me to be "cool" with the old
school CJ guys as well as the new YJ guys. Won't even try to fit in
with the TJ crew...they have funny round things that resemble serpents
holding up their Jeeps! ;-)
TJ
>>> "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...> 8/6/2003 12:20:02 PM >>>
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...>
>To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D." <sreggiedavis@y...>
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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88779 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:40pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
XJ's have a little YJ in them (square headlights and rear leafs), but a
little TJ (front end is identical). So we dont fit in anywhere :)
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson" <TJacobson@t...>
>To: <badazxj@m...>,<az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:32:05 -0700
>
>Depending on the particular Jeep, you could have some
>less-than-desirable components on your 87. The 5spd trannies were the
>Peugot BA-10(?), the t-case could be an NP-207, it's got the carb on the
>4.2L, and it was first year production of YJ's.
>
>On the good side, the D35 was non c-clipped.
>
>Of those things, only the 207 was an 87 only thing...and I don't think
>it was a 100% deal either. I don't even know what makes the 207 any
>different from a 231. I swear I have a 231 in mine, although ½ the
>t-case was replaced and now there is no tag. I have the TF-999 auto, so
>no weak tranny. I sometimes need to buy parts from CJ's, as opposed to
>what the books/computers say my YJ is supposed to have!
>
>I just figure the 87 is special and allows me to be "cool" with the old
>school CJ guys as well as the new YJ guys. Won't even try to fit in
>with the TJ crew...they have funny round things that resemble serpents
>holding up their Jeeps! ;-)
>
>TJ
>
> >>> "BADAZXJ XJArizona" <badazxj@m...> 8/6/2003 12:20:02 PM >>>
>
>Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
>
>other years?
>
>Frank
>http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
>http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Tom Jacobson" <tjacobson@t...>
> >To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
> >Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
> >
> >They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
> >Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
> >
> >Tom
> >
> >Message: 9
> > Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> > From: "S.R.D." <sreggiedavis@y...>
> >Subject: JP magazine.....
> >
> >Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
> >top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
> >editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
> >desire to subscribe....
> >
> >
> >
> >
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88780 From: DesertJeep <joey@d...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:47pm
Subject: RE: Finishing up my OBA.
3/8" hose is pretty standard but if you are using it directly off the
York outlet you will want a very high temp tolerable one. I am using a
few feet of hydraulic hose but the hose that semi's use for air breaks
works well too. You can find both at NAPA.
You may also want an outlet filter as well. Any will work provided you
keep it far enough away from the York's outlet heat.
You will also want to install a fuse (5 amp?) just to be safe. Also be
sure to have this switched with the key. I can't tell you how much blood
and sweat I have put in to fixing the Jeep's electrical system because
the battery was drained.
Joey K
93YJ
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ablockalypse@y...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:25 AM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Finishing up my OBA.
Got the York installed and working. Now I need to plumb everything.
From my research I think I have a full shopping list but feel free to
chime in with whatever I leave off.
Inlet filter (any ideas for this one?)
Pressure switch/regulator
Check valve
pressure guage
tank
Popoff valve
In cab master switch
hose
manifold
I'm guessing I can get some of this stuff at Harbor Freight. Any idea
of a good quailty/price tank? Also, what would you recommend for hose
size? I'm trying to get this finished up this weekend so I don't have
to "borrow" air on the CK run. Anyone with advice or an extra set of
hand is welcome to come by this weekend.
Thanks,
Phil
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88781 From: Linda <minihummer@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 0:59pm
Subject: Re: Finishing up my OBA.
Very good idea Joey. In the ZJ, we used auto A/C compressor hose
since it can handle the pressure and the heat. We got a set off a
salvaged XJ. It added a little to the overall cost.
Linda
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "DesertJeep" <joey@d...> wrote:
> 3/8" hose is pretty standard but if you are using it directly off
the
> York outlet you will want a very high temp tolerable one. I am
using a
> few feet of hydraulic hose but the hose that semi's use for air
breaks
> works well too. You can find both at NAPA.
>
> You may also want an outlet filter as well. Any will work provided
you
> keep it far enough away from the York's outlet heat.
>
> You will also want to install a fuse (5 amp?) just to be safe. Also
be
> sure to have this switched with the key. I can't tell you how much
blood
> and sweat I have put in to fixing the Jeep's electrical system
because
> the battery was drained.
>
> Joey K
> 93YJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ablockalypse@y...]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:25 AM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Finishing up my OBA.
>
> Got the York installed and working. Now I need to plumb everything.
> From my research I think I have a full shopping list but feel free
to
> chime in with whatever I leave off.
>
> Inlet filter (any ideas for this one?)
> Pressure switch/regulator
> Check valve
> pressure guage
> tank
> Popoff valve
> In cab master switch
> hose
> manifold
>
> I'm guessing I can get some of this stuff at Harbor Freight. Any
idea
> of a good quailty/price tank? Also, what would you recommend for
hose
> size? I'm trying to get this finished up this weekend so I don't
have
> to "borrow" air on the CK run. Anyone with advice or an extra set
of
> hand is welcome to come by this weekend.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
>
>
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88782 From: Chris <my1stjeep@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 1:58pm
Subject: Re: JP magazine.....
Top ten publicaitons to never buy:
10. Oprah's
9. Psycology Today
8. Lowrider
7. Mini Truk'n
6. Teen
5. YM
4. National Enquirer
3. Sierra Club Newsletter
2. Rosie Odonnells Newsletter
1. JP
Chris
-------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Ken Henson <khenson@c...> wrote:
> >> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of
the
> >> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own??
> >
> > What are the other ones?
> >
>
>
> GARBAGE TRUCKS - The Top 10 Jeeps We'd Never Own
> by John Cappa & Christian Hazel
>
> '72 - 73 Jeepster Commando
>
> '84 - '86 XJ
>
> '57 - '65 FC-150 or FC-170
>
> Liberty
>
> Wrangler Rubicon
>
> DJ Surrey
>
> Anything Resto
>
> Any Jeep with a Name Emblazoned Across the Hood Sides
>
> '87 YJ
>
> '65 - '82 DJ-5A through DJ-5L Postal Jeeps
>
> '91 - '93 YJ Renegade
88783 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:09pm
Subject: [TR] Trip Report - Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 2, 2003
Hello All,
Brad Rogers lead a trail run Saturday, August 2, 2003 across Crown King from Lake Pleasant
Unfortuntely I didn't meet up with Bill and Patrick until the end at Crown King. We all had a good time though. The beer was cold and the stories made up for the long trip. Good time, everyone should run this trail in a Jeep. One guy in particular wasn't so lucky. A 2500 Dodge pickup had rolled off an obstacle and into the canyon. Nice truck, keys still in it and she starts up. Good luck pulling it out of the ravine. <br>
<br>
Good time....<br>
<br>
<br>
Brad Rogers
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=972
Click the above link to View Pictures (if available)Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
88784 From: Craig Micek <micekc@e...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:23pm
Subject: Re: Re: I am in BIG Trouble
3/8" strap will get you whatever size shackles you need! Don't forget you
will get some settleing if those springs are new.
Craig
----- Original Message -----
From: "jetowle2000" <James.Towle@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:13 AM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: I am in BIG Trouble
> I would love to run stock height shackles, but 4 Wheelers Supply
> doesn't carry them (or so I am told) and I cannot run the junk that
> was on it. :P
>
> --James
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, barry brummett <heinz57yj@y...> wrote:
> > James, run stock height shackles and do not run the 3.5 springs,
> unless your running 44's. Add some springs to the stock yj springs
> and run it hard.
> >
> > James Towle <James.Towle@a...> wrote:Chris,
> >
> > I think I am going to put the stock YJ springs on tomorrow and see
> how it
> > looks. These are 3.5" springs.
> >
> > If I got a flat tire by my self I would have more problems, I
> wouldn't be
> > able to get the thing in the back.
> >
> > --James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Krieg [mailto:rv6a@m...]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 8:27 PM
> > To: James Towle
> > Cc: AZ_VJC
> > Subject: Re: [az_vjc] I am in BIG Trouble
> >
> >
> > Just think of all the clearance you'll have over the rocks.
> >
> > Seriously though, why not just switch to a SUA setup. Looks like
> that
> > would drop it down enough. Not as much axlewrap then either.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Tuesday, August 5, 2003, at 07:27 PM, James Towle wrote:
> >
> > > I got the tub on this evening. I am in big trouble. I am not
> going to
> > > be
> > > able to get in, out shouldn't be a problem (just fall).
> > >
> > > http://members.cox.net/jeepin1/DSC01969.JPG
> > >
> > > Oh shoot, time to back figure. Good thing I didn't order shocks
> yet.
> > >
> > > --James
> > >
> > > Thank you all that responded to my help needed call.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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88785 From: Bill Hooven <whooven@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:39pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Whew, thank goodness Woman's Day wasn't on there. :-)
But seriously, despite poor taste sometimes and articles that seem to serve
advertisers, they do have some neat articles. I also like to see new
products coming down the pike. And heck, it's only like $1.25 or so an issue
when you subscribe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
> Top ten publicaitons to never buy:
>
> 10. Oprah's
> 9. Psycology Today
> 8. Lowrider
> 7. Mini Truk'n
> 6. Teen
> 5. YM
> 4. National Enquirer
> 3. Sierra Club Newsletter
> 2. Rosie Odonnells Newsletter
> 1. JP
>
>
> Chris
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Ken Henson <khenson@c...> wrote:
> > >> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of
> the
> > >> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own??
> > >
> > > What are the other ones?
> > >
> >
> >
> > GARBAGE TRUCKS - The Top 10 Jeeps We'd Never Own
> > by John Cappa & Christian Hazel
> >
> > '72 - 73 Jeepster Commando
> >
> > '84 - '86 XJ
> >
> > '57 - '65 FC-150 or FC-170
> >
> > Liberty
> >
> > Wrangler Rubicon
> >
> > DJ Surrey
> >
> > Anything Resto
> >
> > Any Jeep with a Name Emblazoned Across the Hood Sides
> >
> > '87 YJ
> >
> > '65 - '82 DJ-5A through DJ-5L Postal Jeeps
> >
> > '91 - '93 YJ Renegade
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
88786 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:45pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...> wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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>
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88787 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:49pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
However, not one of those, or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...> 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...> wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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88788 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:50pm
Subject: Re: Finishing up my OBA.
Here's my OBA writeup to give you an idea of what you need:
http://homepage.mac.com/rv6a/oba.html
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 11:24 AM, Phil Thompson wrote:
> Got the York installed and working. Now I need to plumb everything.
> From my research I think I have a full shopping list but feel free to
> chime in with whatever I leave off.
>
> Inlet filter (any ideas for this one?)
> Pressure switch/regulator
> Check valve
> pressure guage
> tank
> Popoff valve
> In cab master switch
> hose
> manifold
>
> I'm guessing I can get some of this stuff at Harbor Freight. Any idea
> of a good quailty/price tank? Also, what would you recommend for hose
> size? I'm trying to get this finished up this weekend so I don't have
> to "borrow" air on the CK run. Anyone with advice or an extra set of
> hand is welcome to come by this weekend.
>
> Thanks,
> Phil
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
88789 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:53pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Let me add #11 RiceBoyRacer
Chris <my1stjeep@e...> wrote:Top ten publicaitons to never buy:
10. Oprah's
9. Psycology Today
8. Lowrider
7. Mini Truk'n
6. Teen
5. YM
4. National Enquirer
3. Sierra Club Newsletter
2. Rosie Odonnells Newsletter
1. JP
Chris
-------------------------------------------------------------------
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Ken Henson wrote:
> >> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of
the
> >> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own??
> >
> > What are the other ones?
> >
>
>
> GARBAGE TRUCKS - The Top 10 Jeeps We'd Never Own
> by John Cappa & Christian Hazel
>
> '72 - 73 Jeepster Commando
>
> '84 - '86 XJ
>
> '57 - '65 FC-150 or FC-170
>
> Liberty
>
> Wrangler Rubicon
>
> DJ Surrey
>
> Anything Resto
>
> Any Jeep with a Name Emblazoned Across the Hood Sides
>
> '87 YJ
>
> '65 - '82 DJ-5A through DJ-5L Postal Jeeps
>
> '91 - '93 YJ Renegade
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88790 From: Chris Krieg <rv6a@c...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:57pm
Subject: Re: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: JP magazine.....
Well said Joe, especially since you and I never take ours offroad. Some
day.....
On Wednesday, August 6, 2003, at 10:39 AM, Joe West wrote:
> All,
>
> At the risk of taking an unpopular stance... I don't believe it should
> matter whether or not people to choose to drive their Jeeps only on the
> street. Who cares if a Rubicon owner chooses to only drive their
> Rubicon on
> asphalt? Who cares if they baby their Jeep and keep it polished,
> waxed, and
> absolutely perfect?
>
> Owning a Jeep isn't about trying to keep up with the "real" Jeep owners
> ("real" is usually defined by the writer as however they themselves use
> their Jeep), but is rather, doing whatever you want to do with your
> Jeep...
> independent of what anyone else thinks.
>
> Rock crawlers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who
> bash the
> hell out of their rigs and don't care about any damage.
>
> Campers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who take
> their rig
> offroad for camping and actually use 4wd some of the time.
>
> Street Jeepers might define "real" as keeping their Jeeps totally
> stock and
> in perfect factory condition and not subjecting it to any abuse at all.
>
> The bottom line is; who cares how people use their Jeep? There is a
> systemic attitude among some in our group that "If you don't Jeep like
> I do"
> you aren't a real Jeeper. What a crock!
>
> Here's what defines a real Jeeper:
>
> If you own and drive a Jeep, you are a real Jeeper.
>
> It doesn't matter if you built it, bought it, built and bought it, or
> friggen stole the damn Jeep.
>
> For those of you who never take your Jeep offroad... more power to you!
> Don't let those in our group who whine about how you choose to use
> your rig
> make you feel like you don't belong.
>
> Joe West
>
>
>
>
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>
88791 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 2:59pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Check mine on AZVJC. I like it, but have taken crap for the headlight thing.
Tom Jacobson <TJacobson@t...> wrote:However, not one of those, or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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88792 From: Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:04pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Yeah, no prob. All I'm saying is that you can get all of those things
you mentioned in any YJ from 87 thru 90.
I THINK the only thing not offered any other year (and not even thru
all of 87) is the NP207 T-Case.
TJ
ps. Square headlights \m/ ROCK!!!! \m/
>>> Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...> 8/6/2003 2:59:31 PM >>>
Check mine on AZVJC. I like it, but have taken crap for the headlight
thing.
Tom Jacobson <TJacobson@t...> wrote:However, not one of those,
or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different
from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
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88793 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:05pm
Subject:
i had a clunk a while back that mysteriously went away, but as soon as i turned out of my driveway yesterday morning i noticed it again, the when i was adjusting my shocks (they are at 3 now; thx joe and randy for your input)i noticed the grease or 'goo' as my roomate called it
i was just wondering if the 'goo' in pic one is what is causing the clunking in the Jeep when i turn, it is the drivers side. pic two is the passenger side
and if it is causing the clunk, is it relatively easy to fix, or should i pay a shop?
also, in pic three is the rust going to be an issue, and if so can i paint over it, to sort of 'seal' it?
www.vernspennies.com/jeep3.htm
any input much appreciated
94xjoe
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88794 From: Joey Martinez <joey@w...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:06pm
Subject: clunking caused by?
sorry no subject in the first one doh'
i had a clunk a while back that mysteriously went away, but as soon as i turned out of my driveway yesterday morning i noticed it again, the when i was adjusting my shocks (they are at 3 now; thx joe and randy for your input)i noticed the grease or 'goo' as my roomate called it
i was just wondering if the 'goo' in pic one is what is causing the clunking in the Jeep when i turn, it is the drivers side. pic two is the passenger side
and if it is causing the clunk, is it relatively easy to fix, or should i pay a shop?
also, in pic three is the rust going to be an issue, and if so can i paint over it, to sort of 'seal' it?
www.vernspennies.com/jeep3.htm
any input much appreciated
94xjoe
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88795 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:15pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Mine came with a 231...don't know if it was swapped, or the factory slipped some of them in.
Tom Jacobson <TJacobson@t...> wrote:Yeah, no prob. All I'm saying is that you can get all of those things
you mentioned in any YJ from 87 thru 90.
I THINK the only thing not offered any other year (and not even thru
all of 87) is the NP207 T-Case.
TJ
ps. Square headlights \m/ ROCK!!!! \m/
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:59:31 PM >>>
Check mine on AZVJC. I like it, but have taken crap for the headlight
thing.
Tom Jacobson wrote:However, not one of those,
or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different
from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
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88796 From: Joe-CJ7 <Joe-CJ7@j...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:19pm
Subject: Transmissions Work
My friend has an 85 CJ7 with manual transmission and he says his clutch
is going. Does or can anyone recommend a good transmission shop or can
anyone help him out?
His name is Don Wyatt (don@c...)
Or email me and I will get this info to him.
Thanks
Joe Kearney
Joe-CJ7@J...
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88797 From: Chris Kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:17pm
Subject: Re: Re: JP magazine.....
Let the round light coalition say what they want. My other ****box (2001 XJ), also is rectangular.
Tom Jacobson <tjacobson@t...> wrote:Yeah, no prob. All I'm saying is that you can get all of those things
you mentioned in any YJ from 87 thru 90.
I THINK the only thing not offered any other year (and not even thru
all of 87) is the NP207 T-Case.
TJ
ps. Square headlights \m/ ROCK!!!! \m/
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:59:31 PM >>>
Check mine on AZVJC. I like it, but have taken crap for the headlight
thing.
Tom Jacobson wrote:However, not one of those,
or even that entire combo of items, is
specific to the 87 only.
>>> Chris Kilcullen 8/6/2003 2:45:24 PM >>>
Carter carbuerator....PukeGoat French tranny... Dana 35
BADAZXJ XJArizona wrote:
Ive heard alot of talk bagging the 87. What makes the 87 different
from
other years?
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: "Tom Jacobson"
>To:
>Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
>Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 12:08:59 -0700
>
>They also named the 87 YJ on their list...that's it, I'm cancelling!
>Can I hang out with the offended Rubicon owners? :-)
>
>Tom
>
>Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:38:01 -0000
> From: "S.R.D."
>Subject: JP magazine.....
>
>Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of the
>top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own?? It appears that the
>editors of JP think that owners of Rubicons are dorks. Away goes my
>desire to subscribe....
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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88798 From: CANT W8 <rlpii@q...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 3:39pm
Subject: Re: Transmissions Work
I had my clutch and throw out bearing done at 4 Wheelers Supply. I'd
recommend that he change the bearing too when he does it. Anyway,
they did mine about 3 years ago and no problem since. I have a
Centerforce clutch with stock trans and a 360.
HTH
Bob
74 CJ-5
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe-CJ7" <Joe-CJ7@j...> wrote:
> My friend has an 85 CJ7 with manual transmission and he says his clutch
> is going. Does or can anyone recommend a good transmission shop or can
> anyone help him out?
>
>
>
> His name is Don Wyatt (don@c...)
>
> Or email me and I will get this info to him.
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Joe Kearney
>
> Joe-CJ7@J...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
88799 From: Bob Jacques <bjacques@m...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 4:05pm
Subject: RE: Re: JP magazine.....
Being relatively new to the sport and a subscriber to JP, I must admit I've
seen some pretty bizarre articles and viewpoints expressed in that mag !!
But I still think one of those surrey topped 2wd would be fun to drive
around the neighborhood shouting De Plane !! De Plane !!
Bob J (Still got the Banner)
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Hooven [mailto:whooven@c...]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:40 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
Whew, thank goodness Woman's Day wasn't on there. :-)
But seriously, despite poor taste sometimes and articles that seem to serve
advertisers, they do have some neat articles. I also like to see new
products coming down the pike. And heck, it's only like $1.25 or so an issue
when you subscribe.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris" <my1stjeep@e...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:58 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: JP magazine.....
> Top ten publicaitons to never buy:
>
> 10. Oprah's
> 9. Psycology Today
> 8. Lowrider
> 7. Mini Truk'n
> 6. Teen
> 5. YM
> 4. National Enquirer
> 3. Sierra Club Newsletter
> 2. Rosie Odonnells Newsletter
> 1. JP
>
>
> Chris
> -------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> --- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Ken Henson <khenson@c...> wrote:
> > >> Anyone seen the latest issue which names the Rubicon as one of
> the
> > >> top 10 Jeeps the editors would never own??
> > >
> > > What are the other ones?
> > >
> >
> >
> > GARBAGE TRUCKS - The Top 10 Jeeps We'd Never Own
> > by John Cappa & Christian Hazel
> >
> > '72 - 73 Jeepster Commando
> >
> > '84 - '86 XJ
> >
> > '57 - '65 FC-150 or FC-170
> >
> > Liberty
> >
> > Wrangler Rubicon
> >
> > DJ Surrey
> >
> > Anything Resto
> >
> > Any Jeep with a Name Emblazoned Across the Hood Sides
> >
> > '87 YJ
> >
> > '65 - '82 DJ-5A through DJ-5L Postal Jeeps
> >
> > '91 - '93 YJ Renegade
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
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88800 From: Scott <osmtj@y...>
Date: Wed Aug 6, 2003 4:21pm
Subject: Re: It is okay to drive your Jeep only on the street... was RE: JP magazine.....
Hi Joe,
Well golly darnit! I think we just might agree on something.
Lockers and 37's is not what makes a real Jeep. It's what is in your
heart. It's that irresistable urge when you walk away from your Jeep
to look back to make sure its okay. Its tucking your Jeep in at
night (pushing the garage door button, watch the door close, give it
a last look before turning off the garage light and going inside).
I've had a YJ and a TJ. I've done what I would consider some hard
rock trails over the past 8 years. Now I've moved on to something
new and different.
My next Jeep (yes, there is one in the works I will post an update
in the near future) will no doubt be purchased and built with a
different purpose in mind. It's been really exciting searching for
this next Jeep. (I'm going to go look at another possibility here in
the next hour).
Anyway, as long as it has a "Jeep" stamp, emblem, or decal on it
then it's a Jeep! (Or Willys :)
Later,
Scott K
(Still temporarily Jeepless)
- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Joe West" <joe.west@s...> wrote:
> All,
>
> At the risk of taking an unpopular stance... I don't believe it
should
> matter whether or not people to choose to drive their Jeeps only
on the
> street. Who cares if a Rubicon owner chooses to only drive their
Rubicon on
> asphalt? Who cares if they baby their Jeep and keep it polished,
waxed, and
> absolutely perfect?
>
> Owning a Jeep isn't about trying to keep up with the "real" Jeep
owners
> ("real" is usually defined by the writer as however they
themselves use
> their Jeep), but is rather, doing whatever you want to do with
your Jeep...
> independent of what anyone else thinks.
>
> Rock crawlers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who
bash the
> hell out of their rigs and don't care about any damage.
>
> Campers might define "real" Jeep owners as those Jeepers who take
their rig
> offroad for camping and actually use 4wd some of the time.
>
> Street Jeepers might define "real" as keeping their Jeeps totally
stock and
> in perfect factory condition and not subjecting it to any abuse at
all.
>
> The bottom line is; who cares how people use their Jeep? There is
a
> systemic attitude among some in our group that "If you don't Jeep
like I do"
> you aren't a real Jeeper. What a crock!
>
> Here's what defines a real Jeeper:
>
> If you own and drive a Jeep, you are a real Jeeper.
>
> It doesn't matter if you built it, bought it, built and bought it,
or
> friggen stole the damn Jeep.
>
> For those of you who never take your Jeep offroad... more power to
you!
> Don't let those in our group who whine about how you choose to use
your rig
> make you feel like you don't belong.
>
> Joe West