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88651 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 3:45pm
Subject: Looking for a "gadget", need some help
Ok, I need some help looking for a new "toy" my new toy. I have seen alot
of you guys come into my shop with my bells and whistles... Well, now its my
turn to find one.
Problem is, I dont even know if there is somehting like this. Looking for
"gadget" that has a compass, outdoor tempe gauge, and maybe an altitude
thingy.
Being lighted would be big plus. I can stick on the dash board or
something... Anyone have any ideas?? where to look?
Thanks much........
John k
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88652 From: Randy Davis <luvrocks@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 7:45pm
Subject: Re: cool camping gadget
just saw that in off-road adventures mag looks cool!!!
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From: "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] cool camping gadget
> http://www.campfireinacan.com/home_page2.htm
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> Mike
> 98 ZJ
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88653 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 3:47pm
Subject: Re: cool camping gadget
LOL
you are not serious?????????
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88654 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 3:52pm
Subject: Re: Looking for a "gadget", need some help
simple..........
you don't really need one :)
stay in southern AZ and
it's gonna be:
HOT
DRY
LOW ELEV
and
USE THE SUN IN DAY AND NORTH STAR AT NIGHT!
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88655 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: [Tech] 99TJ - Powertrax no-slip locker on front axle
I have previously had a powertrax no-slip locker on a rear axle and was pretty happy with it. I currently have a 99 TJ with a factory trac-loc limited slip on the rear which I would like to keep in place. I am considering putting a Powertrax no-slip on the front end. My question is if you get any noticeable steering side effects on the front-end Powertrax while you are in two wheel drive on the street.
Mike Tarver
88656 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: Re: Looking for a "gadget", need some help
http://www.autosportcatalog.com/index.cfm?fa=p&pid=886&cid=63&sc=3851
How's this?
Mike
98 ZJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for a "gadget", need some help
> Ok, I need some help looking for a new "toy" my new toy. I have seen
alot
> of you guys come into my shop with my bells and whistles... Well, now its
my
> turn to find one.
>
> Problem is, I dont even know if there is somehting like this. Looking
for
> "gadget" that has a compass, outdoor tempe gauge, and maybe an altitude
> thingy.
> Being lighted would be big plus. I can stick on the dash board or
> something... Anyone have any ideas?? where to look?
>
> Thanks much........
>
> John k
>
>
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88657 From: chrisboettge <cheesit@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:34pm
Subject: Re: Trail Leader responsibilities was Re: Damage on the trail
I second that!! It's just too hot out there to leave someone
behind.... but after that trail I would never want to wheel with
that person again, not if they won't even help with their own
rig.....
I guess this would be part of that evolution thing... :)
I'm gonna have to check out stu's link so I dont get caught with my
pants down too!!!
88658 From: james kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:43pm
Subject: Re: Re: Damage on the trail
I agree...just because you have a BIG credit card, it doesn't make you a 'wheeler. My dad wouldn't let me get my license until I knew how to fix my junk, and I am forever gratefull to him for it. I am 50 now :(, and my 15 year old and 9 year old sons both know how to repair Jeeps. The old saying is true..."jeeps are built, not bought". I derive much more sastifaction having scrounged and built my junk, rather than paying somebody else to do it.
jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
Like I said, this isn't directed at anyone in particular.
I 'think' there is a problem that I haven't seen before now. That
is, people can go out and buy almost any rig or have a number of
different companies modify their rig. Then these people don't
maintain their rig, they don't know what they have and if they did
know what they have they don't know how to fix it if it breaks. Who
does that leave to fix their rig when it breaks?
As for me, I hate letting other people working on my junk. I don't
set gears though, leave that to the professionals. I, like Nick,
have not gone wheeling a few times because maintenence had to be
done first.
This is a question about trail leaders, that might be considered, if
you were looking at from my point of view; I have a bad back (hell,
sometimes I can't do what needs to be done on my junk), but if
someone breaks down that doesn't know how to fix their rig and they
are expecting me to do it and my back is acting up. They might be in
trouble no matter what the situation is.
Do not get me wrong, breaking is part of the game and I don't mind
helping. A bunch of you know this.
Three things:
Don't sit on the sideline and watch someone fix your rig.
Anticipate breaks, do maintenence.
Be prepared (the old Boy Scout thing), as you can be. Something is
going to break, it's just a matter of time.
--James
Oh yeah, have fun...
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Chris Krieg wrote:
> 2 lessons to learn from this
>
> 1) Don't go unprepared
>
> 2) Don't assume someone else will be to get your sorry butt out of
the
> hole it is in.
>
> Thanks James, what you said needed to be said.
>
> So give us the skinny on what happened. You can delete all names
if
> necessary.
>
> :-)
>
> Chris
>
> On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 12:01 PM, James Towle wrote:
>
> > This is not directed at anyone in particular, it needs to be
said.
> >
> > If you are going to take your rig on a trail that could cause
possible
> > damage to you rig, please have a working knowledge of how to fix
it,
> > some
> > tools and/or the willingness to learn how to fix it, instead of
letting
> > someone else fix it for you. In addition, if your rig has known
issues
> > that
> > possibly could affect it on the trail don't take it, especially
if you
> > don't
> > have the parts or know how to fix it.
> >
> > Everyone is out to have a good time. If someone is working on
your rig
> > because you don't take care of your rig or you are just "driving
it
> > until it
> > drops" they are not having a good time. So be respectful and
know
> > your, and
> > your rig's, limitations. If I am with you and you have the
attitude I
> > have
> > warned against in this posting, I will, from now on, continue
without
> > you.
> > Don't be surprised.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --James
> >
> > The proceeding message was not intended to be "politically
correct" in
> > any
> > way and was intended to bring home a point.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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88659 From: Ben Hill <grapeape_xj@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:44pm
Subject: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on at
the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone know
what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in a
couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
wheelin' while she's gone.
I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
Any help is appreciated.
Ben
Grapeape XJ
88660 From: Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:47pm
Subject: OT: Help this week
I know this is short notice, off topic and a long shot, but I thought I'd ask for some help anyways. I am having A LOT of rock delivered tomorrow morning in order to fix up the yard. I don't have anything to offer besides cold beverages and some food. Any help during 7 AM and 2 PM would be great starting tomorrow, Tuesday, until I get it done. I could use all the wheelbarrows, shovels, and rakes possible. I live on the East side near Power & Thomas. You can call me anytime for directions at 602.697.8520.
Again, any help (even an hour) would be greatly appreciated. I work nights so this is why I need to get this done during the day. TIA.
~Wade
'97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/swaders7/
http://www.theungaros.com
http://www.azvjc.org
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88661 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:48pm
Subject: Re: Re: Damage on the trail
Well said.....
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: dzrtoffroad@a...
>To: James.Towle@a..., az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Damage on the trail
>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 22:29:45 EDT
>
>In a message dated 8/4/03 7:25:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>James.Towle@a... writes:
>
>
> > Don't sit on the sideline and watch someone fix your rig.
> >
>THIS WOULD BE *** KICKIN TIME :)
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88662 From: Halverson <byrnec@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:57pm
Subject: Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Ben,
I had the same problem with the A/C selector switch in my TJ, it turned out
to be the knob itself, the insides were broken and when you turned it you
were not actually moving the switch, just the outside of the knob.
Try pulling it off and see if its broken. They just pull straight off.
John Halverson
'99TJ
'51CJ3A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Hill" <grapeape_xj@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
> The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on at
> the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
> the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone know
> what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
>
> The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in a
> couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
> wheelin' while she's gone.
>
> I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
> Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Ben
> Grapeape XJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
88663 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:08pm
Subject: OT - Do Not Call List Scam
(If you signed up for the do not call list):
Checked this out on
www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/callscam.asp It appears to
be true for more companies than the ones listed. Just one
more reason to READ things.
Do Not Call List....Please Read
I got this from a friend of mine today. For every law,
there is a way
around it. I wonder just how many "sponsors" this offer
has...
This is to all of you who signed up on the "do not call"
list.
This week I received a card in the mail that looked
alright-- It said
"vote for your favorite cola - Pepsi or Coke- and receive
a
complementary 12 pack" It didn't look suspicious--but for
some
reason I kept looking at it. THEN I FOUND IT !! At the
bottom of
the card there is a VERY small statement. It is SO small
it is
hard to read--but here is what it says--' By completing
this form, you
agree that sponsors and co-sponsors of this offer may
telephone
you , even if your number is found on a do not call
registry or list "
This REALLY upset me and I just wanted all my friends to
be aware
of this way to get around the "do not call" law !! Just
think how many
people will send this in and their do not call registry
will be NO
GOOD !! The company's name is MARKET SOLUTION.
Please send this to all your friends that signed up for "
do not call".
I think this is just one of what we will get in the
future--so READ
EVERYTHING before you SIGN AND SEND !! AND TELL YOUR
FRIENDS ABOUT IT.!!!! PLEASE
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88664 From: AzVJC Website <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:05pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Leonard Pennock is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: 1:30pm (For people that just can't get there in the morning"
Where: Castle Hot Springs Road, past the last entrance to the toll booth by the lake, just after where it turns from asphalt to gravel on the left side of the road.
Rating: 3.0-
Length: Rest of the Day.
CB Channel: 4 & FRS 4,0
Yet another one of the Birthday Runs. This trip is for those people that have conflicts that preveent them from going on one of the morning runs. I will probally be hot so bring plenty of water and AC will be prefered.
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.</a>
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=966
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
88665 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:07pm
Subject: Crown King Trip
If you think you might make the 1:30 run you need to put your name down.
If no one has signed up by August 13th I'll probally cancel the 1:30
run and go up with a earlier run.
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
88666 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 3, 2003 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Trail Leader responsibilities was Re: Damage on the trail
I think it can be summed up in a very few words:
The Law of Arizona:
You Don't Leave Someone Stuck Out In The Desert.
Tony
chrisboettge wrote:
>I second that!! It's just too hot out there to leave someone
>behind.... but after that trail I would never want to wheel with
>that person again, not if they won't even help with their own
>rig.....
>
>
>I guess this would be part of that evolution thing... :)
>
>
>I'm gonna have to check out stu's link so I dont get caught with my
>pants down too!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
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88667 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:18pm
Subject: RE: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Sounds like either the fan switch or the resistors the switch actuates
have gone bad. Usually it will run in the HIGH position because the
resistor pack is completely bypassed by the HIGH position relay.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Hill [mailto:grapeape_xj@y...]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:45 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on at
the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone know
what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in a
couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
wheelin' while she's gone.
I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
Any help is appreciated.
Ben
Grapeape XJ
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88668 From: Ben Hill <grapeape_xj@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:20pm
Subject: Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Thanks John, I pulled the knob but it is fine. Nothing broken in
there. The blower does come on if I jimmy the switch and hold it
between settings. When the blower kicks on at one of these settings,
I hear a sound inside the dash around the glove box. It sounds like
a relay. Could a bad relay cause a problem such as this?
Again, thanks for the help,
Ben
Grapeape XJ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Halverson" <byrnec@q...> wrote:
> Ben,
>
> I had the same problem with the A/C selector switch in my TJ, it
turned out
> to be the knob itself, the insides were broken and when you turned
it you
> were not actually moving the switch, just the outside of the knob.
>
> Try pulling it off and see if its broken. They just pull straight
off.
>
> John Halverson
> '99TJ
> '51CJ3A
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Hill" <grapeape_xj@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:44 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
>
>
> > The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes
on at
> > the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I
jimmy
> > the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone
know
> > what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
> >
> > The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas
in a
> > couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
> > wheelin' while she's gone.
> >
> > I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
> > Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Ben
> > Grapeape XJ
88669 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:22pm
Subject: Trail Leader responsibilities was Re: Damage on the trail
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, dzrtoffroad@a... wrote:
> "trail boss" sounds like i'm herding cattle :)
There are similarities :)
I've always associated trail boss with the "air boss" who directs
all aircraft movement on a carrier. Leader works too :)
Matt
K7MTO
88670 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 5:23pm
Subject: Re: Looking for a "gadget", need some help
isnt there an aviation unit like this? Joe or stu might know.
Anthony
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88671 From: CANT W8 <rlpii@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:31pm
Subject: Re: Damage on the trail
If I can add my .02 cents. . . .
Lets assume no one is getting paid to lead the group.
I feel that the "Trail Boss" leads the group, the "Tail Gunner" makes
sure that everyone gets through (or gets the group to stop and help),
BUT, no one gets left behind. It is the Groups responsibility to
make sure that everyone gets off the trail and back to pavement or
the meeting spot/end of the run. If someone wants to leave the group,
they should notify the "Trail Boss" and the "Tail Gunner". Of course,
those that go should be prepared as best they can for the trail. In
my 40 years of wheelin, this is how it has always been with the
groups I have gone out with.
With the way the AZVJC is set up, it is hard to tell someone that
they can't come on a trip with the group. I think that is why some
smaller groups have split off and go wheeling without posting trips.
Personally I go on very few AZVJC trips for a lot of the reasons that
have been mentioned in the previous posts on this topic, either my
rig is not set up, or I don't feel comfortable with some of the
attendees. But that is my choice.
Again, in my opinion, no one should ever be left behind under any
cirmcumstances.
I guess that is more than two cents, keep the change.
Bob
74 CJ-5
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Matt and James bring up some very interesting points.
>
> Matt stated "As a general rule, the trail boss takes responsibility
for
> ensuring everyone who starts a run, finishes the run." Of the runs
I
> do, I lead the run far more times than I follow someone else.
While
I
> do have some feeling of responsibility when I am the leader, I am
not a
> hired guide. More often than not, I am the guy with the properly
loaded
> GPS and that usually prevents the group from taking too many wrong
turns
> (I'll NEVER say NO wrong turns!)....or, the other guy that was
going
to
> lead the trail couldn't make it so I became the defacto trail boss
and
> we proceeded on. To push this responsibility issue onto the
shoulder of
> the guy in front may not exactly be the correct thing to do. On the
> flip side of that coin, this fall, I will be providing the services
as a
> tail gunner and the folks on the trip are paying customers....and I
> certainly do have a responsibility to ensure they get off the
trail.
(in
> fact...the documentation provided to the driver goes into great
detail
> and states that the person will get off the trail, but if they trash
> their vehicle, it is ultimately the owner's responsibility to have
the
> vehicle removed from the trail) (note...do not confuse my previous
> statements with my saying I would leave someone on the trail if they
> weren't paying).
>
> Also....as a "trail boss", I have seen individuals decide that they
no
> longer wanted to stay in the company of the group I was leading.
> So....what do we do there? How can the trail boss have a
responsibility
> to those on the run when some of those drivers won't act
responsibly?
> So....I suppose it is OK for them to tell you (the trail leader) to
> politely blow off but the trail leader doesn't have the same
options
at
> his/her disposal? Now that makes for a one sided situation.
>
> I am not saying that Matt or James are right or wrong. I am just
saying
> I do believe there is more to the entire situation than what both
Matt
> and James said.
>
> Anyone else want to add to the discussion?
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
> >From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Damage on the trail
> >Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:36:02 -0000
> >
> >I couldn't agree more that folks need to be prepared before heading
> >offroad. Adequate spare parts, tools and knowledge of how to
> >use/replace/repair is essential. That said, there will always be
> >times when folks need help on the trail, including myself.
> >
> >As a general rule, the trail boss takes responsibility for ensuring
> >everyone who starts a run, finishes the run. Personally, I'll never
> >leave anyone on the trail with a broken rig unless I know they have
> >the situation under control or assitance on the way. At the same
> >time, if certain individuals exhibit ineptitude time and again,
I'll
> >refuse to let them join subsequent runs which I lead.
> >
> >Matt
> >K7MTO
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> >wrote:
> > > This is not directed at anyone in particular, it needs to be
said.
> > >
> > > If you are going to take your rig on a trail that could cause
> >possible
> > > damage to you rig, please have a working knowledge of how to fix
> >it, some
> > > tools and/or the willingness to learn how to fix it, instead of
> >letting
> > > someone else fix it for you. In addition, if your rig has known
> >issues that
> > > possibly could affect it on the trail don't take it, especially
if
> >you don't
> > > have the parts or know how to fix it.
> > >
> > > Everyone is out to have a good time. If someone is working on
your
> >rig
> > > because you don't take care of your rig or you are just "driving
> >it until it
> > > drops" they are not having a good time. So be respectful and
know
> >your, and
> > > your rig's, limitations. If I am with you and you have the
> >attitude I have
> > > warned against in this posting, I will, from now on, continue
> >without you.
> > > Don't be surprised.
> >
> >
> >
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88672 From: Ben Hill <grapeape_xj@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:31pm
Subject: Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Thanks, Stu. It will run on low with no problem. It's when I put it
in a higher setting that the blower won't work. Based on that, maybe
it's the switch, not the resistors?!?
Do you know if I can replace just the switch?
Thanks,
Ben
Grapeape XJ
P.S. What do I need to do to get the dash off? Just the center
section with the radio & AC controls?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Sounds like either the fan switch or the resistors the switch
actuates
> have gone bad. Usually it will run in the HIGH position because the
> resistor pack is completely bypassed by the HIGH position relay.
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Hill [mailto:grapeape_xj@y...]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:45 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
>
> The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on
at
> the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
> the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone
know
> what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
>
> The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in
a
> couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
> wheelin' while she's gone.
>
> I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
> Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Ben
> Grapeape XJ
>
88673 From: TODD MCCULLEN <desertfab@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:39pm
Subject: Trail Damage
Just to add my 2 cents,
Bottom line, Use common sense and be considerate to others!!!
It is not fun when you have baby sit someone who is not prepared for the trail rating.
I feel it is the trail leader responsibility to post what type of trail they are leading and what is required for that run. Example: If leading a 5 rated trail and the requirements are high clearance, spare parts, winch, ect.. This does not mean for someone to show up with 2" of lift, 31" tires and a limited slips. All this does is ask for breakage, and rock stacking.
If you have all prepared rigs on the trail and breakage happens, then so be it that is part of wheeling, get it fixed and move on.
I do not care how prepared you are there will always be breakage.
Todd
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88674 From: <B4141@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 6:12pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3846 - Powertrax no-slip locker on front axle
In a message dated 8/4/03 9:38:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
> Subject: [Tech] 99TJ - Powertrax no-slip locker on front axle
I have a front locker in my CJ5 and limited slip in the back. I have
lockout hubs in front. On pavement if I have the hubs locked, it's impossible
to hold my Jeep steady ... with the hubs unlocked, it's no problem at all.
Brent Pace
>
>
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88675 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 10:27pm
Subject: RE: Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
I really don't know for sure just what parts are replaceable. I've seen
a few folks post threads on some on-line forums but never had mine apart
so I've no first hand experience with it.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Hill [mailto:grapeape_xj@y...]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:32 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Thanks, Stu. It will run on low with no problem. It's when I put it
in a higher setting that the blower won't work. Based on that, maybe
it's the switch, not the resistors?!?
Do you know if I can replace just the switch?
Thanks,
Ben
Grapeape XJ
P.S. What do I need to do to get the dash off? Just the center
section with the radio & AC controls?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Sounds like either the fan switch or the resistors the switch
actuates
> have gone bad. Usually it will run in the HIGH position because the
> resistor pack is completely bypassed by the HIGH position relay.
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Hill [mailto:grapeape_xj@y...]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:45 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
>
> The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on
at
> the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
> the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone
know
> what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
>
> The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in
a
> couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
> wheelin' while she's gone.
>
> I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
> Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Ben
> Grapeape XJ
>
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88651 From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 3:45pm
Subject: Looking for a "gadget", need some help
Ok, I need some help looking for a new "toy" my new toy. I have seen alot
of you guys come into my shop with my bells and whistles... Well, now its my
turn to find one.
Problem is, I dont even know if there is somehting like this. Looking for
"gadget" that has a compass, outdoor tempe gauge, and maybe an altitude
thingy.
Being lighted would be big plus. I can stick on the dash board or
something... Anyone have any ideas?? where to look?
Thanks much........
John k
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88652 From: Randy Davis <luvrocks@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 7:45pm
Subject: Re: cool camping gadget
just saw that in off-road adventures mag looks cool!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike & Karen Acuna" <mkacuna@c...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:36 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] cool camping gadget
> http://www.campfireinacan.com/home_page2.htm
>
> Mike
> 98 ZJ
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
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88653 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 3:47pm
Subject: Re: cool camping gadget
LOL
you are not serious?????????
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88654 From: <dzrtoffroad@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 3:52pm
Subject: Re: Looking for a "gadget", need some help
simple..........
you don't really need one :)
stay in southern AZ and
it's gonna be:
HOT
DRY
LOW ELEV
and
USE THE SUN IN DAY AND NORTH STAR AT NIGHT!
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88655 From: AzVJC Website <azvjc@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: [Tech] 99TJ - Powertrax no-slip locker on front axle
I have previously had a powertrax no-slip locker on a rear axle and was pretty happy with it. I currently have a 99 TJ with a factory trac-loc limited slip on the rear which I would like to keep in place. I am considering putting a Powertrax no-slip on the front end. My question is if you get any noticeable steering side effects on the front-end Powertrax while you are in two wheel drive on the street.
Mike Tarver
88656 From: Mike & Karen Acuna <mkacuna@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:03pm
Subject: Re: Looking for a "gadget", need some help
http://www.autosportcatalog.com/index.cfm?fa=p&pid=886&cid=63&sc=3851
How's this?
Mike
98 ZJ
----- Original Message -----
From: <hunteroffroad@a...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 7:45 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] Looking for a "gadget", need some help
> Ok, I need some help looking for a new "toy" my new toy. I have seen
alot
> of you guys come into my shop with my bells and whistles... Well, now its
my
> turn to find one.
>
> Problem is, I dont even know if there is somehting like this. Looking
for
> "gadget" that has a compass, outdoor tempe gauge, and maybe an altitude
> thingy.
> Being lighted would be big plus. I can stick on the dash board or
> something... Anyone have any ideas?? where to look?
>
> Thanks much........
>
> John k
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
88657 From: chrisboettge <cheesit@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:34pm
Subject: Re: Trail Leader responsibilities was Re: Damage on the trail
I second that!! It's just too hot out there to leave someone
behind.... but after that trail I would never want to wheel with
that person again, not if they won't even help with their own
rig.....
I guess this would be part of that evolution thing... :)
I'm gonna have to check out stu's link so I dont get caught with my
pants down too!!!
88658 From: james kilcullen <whoozey1953@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:43pm
Subject: Re: Re: Damage on the trail
I agree...just because you have a BIG credit card, it doesn't make you a 'wheeler. My dad wouldn't let me get my license until I knew how to fix my junk, and I am forever gratefull to him for it. I am 50 now :(, and my 15 year old and 9 year old sons both know how to repair Jeeps. The old saying is true..."jeeps are built, not bought". I derive much more sastifaction having scrounged and built my junk, rather than paying somebody else to do it.
jetowle2000 <James.Towle@a...> wrote:
Like I said, this isn't directed at anyone in particular.
I 'think' there is a problem that I haven't seen before now. That
is, people can go out and buy almost any rig or have a number of
different companies modify their rig. Then these people don't
maintain their rig, they don't know what they have and if they did
know what they have they don't know how to fix it if it breaks. Who
does that leave to fix their rig when it breaks?
As for me, I hate letting other people working on my junk. I don't
set gears though, leave that to the professionals. I, like Nick,
have not gone wheeling a few times because maintenence had to be
done first.
This is a question about trail leaders, that might be considered, if
you were looking at from my point of view; I have a bad back (hell,
sometimes I can't do what needs to be done on my junk), but if
someone breaks down that doesn't know how to fix their rig and they
are expecting me to do it and my back is acting up. They might be in
trouble no matter what the situation is.
Do not get me wrong, breaking is part of the game and I don't mind
helping. A bunch of you know this.
Three things:
Don't sit on the sideline and watch someone fix your rig.
Anticipate breaks, do maintenence.
Be prepared (the old Boy Scout thing), as you can be. Something is
going to break, it's just a matter of time.
--James
Oh yeah, have fun...
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, Chris Krieg wrote:
> 2 lessons to learn from this
>
> 1) Don't go unprepared
>
> 2) Don't assume someone else will be to get your sorry butt out of
the
> hole it is in.
>
> Thanks James, what you said needed to be said.
>
> So give us the skinny on what happened. You can delete all names
if
> necessary.
>
> :-)
>
> Chris
>
> On Monday, August 4, 2003, at 12:01 PM, James Towle wrote:
>
> > This is not directed at anyone in particular, it needs to be
said.
> >
> > If you are going to take your rig on a trail that could cause
possible
> > damage to you rig, please have a working knowledge of how to fix
it,
> > some
> > tools and/or the willingness to learn how to fix it, instead of
letting
> > someone else fix it for you. In addition, if your rig has known
issues
> > that
> > possibly could affect it on the trail don't take it, especially
if you
> > don't
> > have the parts or know how to fix it.
> >
> > Everyone is out to have a good time. If someone is working on
your rig
> > because you don't take care of your rig or you are just "driving
it
> > until it
> > drops" they are not having a good time. So be respectful and
know
> > your, and
> > your rig's, limitations. If I am with you and you have the
attitude I
> > have
> > warned against in this posting, I will, from now on, continue
without
> > you.
> > Don't be surprised.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > --James
> >
> > The proceeding message was not intended to be "politically
correct" in
> > any
> > way and was intended to bring home a point.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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88659 From: Ben Hill <grapeape_xj@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:44pm
Subject: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on at
the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone know
what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in a
couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
wheelin' while she's gone.
I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
Any help is appreciated.
Ben
Grapeape XJ
88660 From: Wade Ungaro <swaders7@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:47pm
Subject: OT: Help this week
I know this is short notice, off topic and a long shot, but I thought I'd ask for some help anyways. I am having A LOT of rock delivered tomorrow morning in order to fix up the yard. I don't have anything to offer besides cold beverages and some food. Any help during 7 AM and 2 PM would be great starting tomorrow, Tuesday, until I get it done. I could use all the wheelbarrows, shovels, and rakes possible. I live on the East side near Power & Thomas. You can call me anytime for directions at 602.697.8520.
Again, any help (even an hour) would be greatly appreciated. I work nights so this is why I need to get this done during the day. TIA.
~Wade
'97 "Blue Cactus" TJ
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/swaders7/
http://www.theungaros.com
http://www.azvjc.org
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88661 From: BADAZXJ XJArizona <BadAZXJ@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:48pm
Subject: Re: Re: Damage on the trail
Well said.....
Frank
http://groups.msn.com/BadAzXJ
http://groups.msn.com/badazxj/arizonaundertakers.msnw
>From: dzrtoffroad@a...
>To: James.Towle@a..., az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [az_vjc] Re: Damage on the trail
>Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2003 22:29:45 EDT
>
>In a message dated 8/4/03 7:25:10 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
>James.Towle@a... writes:
>
>
> > Don't sit on the sideline and watch someone fix your rig.
> >
>THIS WOULD BE *** KICKIN TIME :)
>
>
>
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88662 From: Halverson <byrnec@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 8:57pm
Subject: Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Ben,
I had the same problem with the A/C selector switch in my TJ, it turned out
to be the knob itself, the insides were broken and when you turned it you
were not actually moving the switch, just the outside of the knob.
Try pulling it off and see if its broken. They just pull straight off.
John Halverson
'99TJ
'51CJ3A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Hill" <grapeape_xj@y...>
To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:44 PM
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
> The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on at
> the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
> the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone know
> what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
>
> The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in a
> couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
> wheelin' while she's gone.
>
> I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
> Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Ben
> Grapeape XJ
>
>
>
>
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
88663 From: Robert Peck <rlpii@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:08pm
Subject: OT - Do Not Call List Scam
(If you signed up for the do not call list):
Checked this out on
www.snopes.com/inboxer/pending/callscam.asp It appears to
be true for more companies than the ones listed. Just one
more reason to READ things.
Do Not Call List....Please Read
I got this from a friend of mine today. For every law,
there is a way
around it. I wonder just how many "sponsors" this offer
has...
This is to all of you who signed up on the "do not call"
list.
This week I received a card in the mail that looked
alright-- It said
"vote for your favorite cola - Pepsi or Coke- and receive
a
complementary 12 pack" It didn't look suspicious--but for
some
reason I kept looking at it. THEN I FOUND IT !! At the
bottom of
the card there is a VERY small statement. It is SO small
it is
hard to read--but here is what it says--' By completing
this form, you
agree that sponsors and co-sponsors of this offer may
telephone
you , even if your number is found on a do not call
registry or list "
This REALLY upset me and I just wanted all my friends to
be aware
of this way to get around the "do not call" law !! Just
think how many
people will send this in and their do not call registry
will be NO
GOOD !! The company's name is MARKET SOLUTION.
Please send this to all your friends that signed up for "
do not call".
I think this is just one of what we will get in the
future--so READ
EVERYTHING before you SIGN AND SEND !! AND TELL YOUR
FRIENDS ABOUT IT.!!!! PLEASE
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88664 From: AzVJC Website <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:05pm
Subject: [TR] Crown King from Lake Pleasant - Saturday, August 16, 2003 - Reminder
Hello All,Leonard Pennock is leading a Crown King from Lake Pleasant trail run on Saturday, August 16, 2003.<br><br>When: 1:30pm (For people that just can't get there in the morning"
Where: Castle Hot Springs Road, past the last entrance to the toll booth by the lake, just after where it turns from asphalt to gravel on the left side of the road.
Rating: 3.0-
Length: Rest of the Day.
CB Channel: 4 & FRS 4,0
Yet another one of the Birthday Runs. This trip is for those people that have conflicts that preveent them from going on one of the morning runs. I will probally be hot so bring plenty of water and AC will be prefered.
The Lake Pleasang to Crown King trail is a local favorite. On any given weekend, there will be numerous groups of four wheelers, ATV's and motorcycles heading to and from Crown King. It is a fun and scenic trail into the cooler pines of the Bradshaws. <a href="../Main/History.asp">This trail was the first trip ever done by AzVJC.</a>
The trail takes off from the Castle Hotsprings Rd and travels through the foot hills and up the side of the mountain, giving nice views of Lake Pleasant and the Valley. There are some tougher optional sections that can make it interesting.
The trail goes through the old ghost towns of Fort Misery and Oro Belle, both of which are remnants of the Mining era of the Bradshaw Mountains. All that remains now, are foundations and a few crumbling walls. Fort Misery makes a nice place to stop and eat lunch as the small creek usually has running water and there are trees to provide shade.
In the winter months, the trail from Fort Misery through Oro Belle to Crown King will often have snow and/or ice. In the summer, an early start is necessary to stay ahead of the rising temperatures.
Once on top of the mountain, the trail runs through the cool pines and into Crown King. In Crown King there are places to eat and have a drink, and a general store that sells some excellent fudge. The old Crown King Saloon was actually built in Oro Belle, and later hauled up (many years ago) to Crown King and rebuilt. In Oro Belle, the saloon was built into the side of the hill, so the upstairs were mainly accessable from the rear of the building (at ground level). The upstairs served as a place repose for women of ill fame.
There are campgrounds on top of the mountain near Crown King for those wishing to stay overnight. The fastest way down is via the main road which leads through Cleator and toward Bumble Bee. You can split off and go through Cordes Junction, which will get you to the Freeway quicker, or keep going strait and go through the little town of Bumble Bee.
Alternatively, you can take the Senator Highway toward Prescott or Mayer, this can be a very interesting trail during snow season. If you have the time, follow Towers Mountain rd through Crown King and up to the top of Towers Mountain, there are some excellent views and you can join back up with the Senator Highway afterward.
Have fun, remember to bring water and your camera.
Enjoy, and remember to TREAD Lightly!
http://www.azvjc.org/default.asp?A=1&ID=966
Click the link above To Add Your Name to the Sign Up List
Thank You,
- The AzVJC Website
88665 From: Leonard K. Pennock <leonardpennock@c...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:07pm
Subject: Crown King Trip
If you think you might make the 1:30 run you need to put your name down.
If no one has signed up by August 13th I'll probally cancel the 1:30
run and go up with a earlier run.
--
Leonard K. Pennock
Those who walk bravely through life, unafraid of loss or failure,
find that they very rarely lose or fail.
88666 From: intertwingled <intertwingled@q...>
Date: Sun Aug 3, 2003 9:09pm
Subject: Re: Trail Leader responsibilities was Re: Damage on the trail
I think it can be summed up in a very few words:
The Law of Arizona:
You Don't Leave Someone Stuck Out In The Desert.
Tony
chrisboettge wrote:
>I second that!! It's just too hot out there to leave someone
>behind.... but after that trail I would never want to wheel with
>that person again, not if they won't even help with their own
>rig.....
>
>
>I guess this would be part of that evolution thing... :)
>
>
>I'm gonna have to check out stu's link so I dont get caught with my
>pants down too!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
>
>
>
>
>
>
88667 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:18pm
Subject: RE: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Sounds like either the fan switch or the resistors the switch actuates
have gone bad. Usually it will run in the HIGH position because the
resistor pack is completely bypassed by the HIGH position relay.
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Hill [mailto:grapeape_xj@y...]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:45 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on at
the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone know
what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in a
couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
wheelin' while she's gone.
I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
Any help is appreciated.
Ben
Grapeape XJ
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88668 From: Ben Hill <grapeape_xj@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:20pm
Subject: Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Thanks John, I pulled the knob but it is fine. Nothing broken in
there. The blower does come on if I jimmy the switch and hold it
between settings. When the blower kicks on at one of these settings,
I hear a sound inside the dash around the glove box. It sounds like
a relay. Could a bad relay cause a problem such as this?
Again, thanks for the help,
Ben
Grapeape XJ
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Halverson" <byrnec@q...> wrote:
> Ben,
>
> I had the same problem with the A/C selector switch in my TJ, it
turned out
> to be the knob itself, the insides were broken and when you turned
it you
> were not actually moving the switch, just the outside of the knob.
>
> Try pulling it off and see if its broken. They just pull straight
off.
>
> John Halverson
> '99TJ
> '51CJ3A
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Hill" <grapeape_xj@y...>
> To: <az_vjc@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:44 PM
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
>
>
> > The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes
on at
> > the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I
jimmy
> > the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone
know
> > what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
> >
> > The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas
in a
> > couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
> > wheelin' while she's gone.
> >
> > I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
> > Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
> >
> > Any help is appreciated.
> >
> > Ben
> > Grapeape XJ
88669 From: Matt OBrien <makaioo@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:22pm
Subject: Trail Leader responsibilities was Re: Damage on the trail
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, dzrtoffroad@a... wrote:
> "trail boss" sounds like i'm herding cattle :)
There are similarities :)
I've always associated trail boss with the "air boss" who directs
all aircraft movement on a carrier. Leader works too :)
Matt
K7MTO
88670 From: <chaton602phx@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 5:23pm
Subject: Re: Looking for a "gadget", need some help
isnt there an aviation unit like this? Joe or stu might know.
Anthony
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88671 From: CANT W8 <rlpii@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:31pm
Subject: Re: Damage on the trail
If I can add my .02 cents. . . .
Lets assume no one is getting paid to lead the group.
I feel that the "Trail Boss" leads the group, the "Tail Gunner" makes
sure that everyone gets through (or gets the group to stop and help),
BUT, no one gets left behind. It is the Groups responsibility to
make sure that everyone gets off the trail and back to pavement or
the meeting spot/end of the run. If someone wants to leave the group,
they should notify the "Trail Boss" and the "Tail Gunner". Of course,
those that go should be prepared as best they can for the trail. In
my 40 years of wheelin, this is how it has always been with the
groups I have gone out with.
With the way the AZVJC is set up, it is hard to tell someone that
they can't come on a trip with the group. I think that is why some
smaller groups have split off and go wheeling without posting trips.
Personally I go on very few AZVJC trips for a lot of the reasons that
have been mentioned in the previous posts on this topic, either my
rig is not set up, or I don't feel comfortable with some of the
attendees. But that is my choice.
Again, in my opinion, no one should ever be left behind under any
cirmcumstances.
I guess that is more than two cents, keep the change.
Bob
74 CJ-5
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Matt and James bring up some very interesting points.
>
> Matt stated "As a general rule, the trail boss takes responsibility
for
> ensuring everyone who starts a run, finishes the run." Of the runs
I
> do, I lead the run far more times than I follow someone else.
While
I
> do have some feeling of responsibility when I am the leader, I am
not a
> hired guide. More often than not, I am the guy with the properly
loaded
> GPS and that usually prevents the group from taking too many wrong
turns
> (I'll NEVER say NO wrong turns!)....or, the other guy that was
going
to
> lead the trail couldn't make it so I became the defacto trail boss
and
> we proceeded on. To push this responsibility issue onto the
shoulder of
> the guy in front may not exactly be the correct thing to do. On the
> flip side of that coin, this fall, I will be providing the services
as a
> tail gunner and the folks on the trip are paying customers....and I
> certainly do have a responsibility to ensure they get off the
trail.
(in
> fact...the documentation provided to the driver goes into great
detail
> and states that the person will get off the trail, but if they trash
> their vehicle, it is ultimately the owner's responsibility to have
the
> vehicle removed from the trail) (note...do not confuse my previous
> statements with my saying I would leave someone on the trail if they
> weren't paying).
>
> Also....as a "trail boss", I have seen individuals decide that they
no
> longer wanted to stay in the company of the group I was leading.
> So....what do we do there? How can the trail boss have a
responsibility
> to those on the run when some of those drivers won't act
responsibly?
> So....I suppose it is OK for them to tell you (the trail leader) to
> politely blow off but the trail leader doesn't have the same
options
at
> his/her disposal? Now that makes for a one sided situation.
>
> I am not saying that Matt or James are right or wrong. I am just
saying
> I do believe there is more to the entire situation than what both
Matt
> and James said.
>
> Anyone else want to add to the discussion?
>
> Stu
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
>
> >From: "Matt OBrien" <makaioo@y...>
> >To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Damage on the trail
> >Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2003 20:36:02 -0000
> >
> >I couldn't agree more that folks need to be prepared before heading
> >offroad. Adequate spare parts, tools and knowledge of how to
> >use/replace/repair is essential. That said, there will always be
> >times when folks need help on the trail, including myself.
> >
> >As a general rule, the trail boss takes responsibility for ensuring
> >everyone who starts a run, finishes the run. Personally, I'll never
> >leave anyone on the trail with a broken rig unless I know they have
> >the situation under control or assitance on the way. At the same
> >time, if certain individuals exhibit ineptitude time and again,
I'll
> >refuse to let them join subsequent runs which I lead.
> >
> >Matt
> >K7MTO
> >
> >--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "James Towle" <James.Towle@a...>
> >wrote:
> > > This is not directed at anyone in particular, it needs to be
said.
> > >
> > > If you are going to take your rig on a trail that could cause
> >possible
> > > damage to you rig, please have a working knowledge of how to fix
> >it, some
> > > tools and/or the willingness to learn how to fix it, instead of
> >letting
> > > someone else fix it for you. In addition, if your rig has known
> >issues that
> > > possibly could affect it on the trail don't take it, especially
if
> >you don't
> > > have the parts or know how to fix it.
> > >
> > > Everyone is out to have a good time. If someone is working on
your
> >rig
> > > because you don't take care of your rig or you are just "driving
> >it until it
> > > drops" they are not having a good time. So be respectful and
know
> >your, and
> > > your rig's, limitations. If I am with you and you have the
> >attitude I have
> > > warned against in this posting, I will, from now on, continue
> >without you.
> > > Don't be surprised.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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88672 From: Ben Hill <grapeape_xj@y...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:31pm
Subject: Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Thanks, Stu. It will run on low with no problem. It's when I put it
in a higher setting that the blower won't work. Based on that, maybe
it's the switch, not the resistors?!?
Do you know if I can replace just the switch?
Thanks,
Ben
Grapeape XJ
P.S. What do I need to do to get the dash off? Just the center
section with the radio & AC controls?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Sounds like either the fan switch or the resistors the switch
actuates
> have gone bad. Usually it will run in the HIGH position because the
> resistor pack is completely bypassed by the HIGH position relay.
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Hill [mailto:grapeape_xj@y...]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:45 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
>
> The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on
at
> the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
> the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone
know
> what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
>
> The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in
a
> couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
> wheelin' while she's gone.
>
> I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
> Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Ben
> Grapeape XJ
>
88673 From: TODD MCCULLEN <desertfab@m...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 9:39pm
Subject: Trail Damage
Just to add my 2 cents,
Bottom line, Use common sense and be considerate to others!!!
It is not fun when you have baby sit someone who is not prepared for the trail rating.
I feel it is the trail leader responsibility to post what type of trail they are leading and what is required for that run. Example: If leading a 5 rated trail and the requirements are high clearance, spare parts, winch, ect.. This does not mean for someone to show up with 2" of lift, 31" tires and a limited slips. All this does is ask for breakage, and rock stacking.
If you have all prepared rigs on the trail and breakage happens, then so be it that is part of wheeling, get it fixed and move on.
I do not care how prepared you are there will always be breakage.
Todd
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88674 From: <B4141@a...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 6:12pm
Subject: Re: Digest Number 3846 - Powertrax no-slip locker on front axle
In a message dated 8/4/03 9:38:39 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
az_vjc@yahoogroups.com writes:
> Subject: [Tech] 99TJ - Powertrax no-slip locker on front axle
I have a front locker in my CJ5 and limited slip in the back. I have
lockout hubs in front. On pavement if I have the hubs locked, it's impossible
to hold my Jeep steady ... with the hubs unlocked, it's no problem at all.
Brent Pace
>
>
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88675 From: Stu Olson <solson8@q...>
Date: Mon Aug 4, 2003 10:27pm
Subject: RE: Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
I really don't know for sure just what parts are replaceable. I've seen
a few folks post threads on some on-line forums but never had mine apart
so I've no first hand experience with it.
Stu
Stu Olson
www.stu-offroad.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Hill [mailto:grapeape_xj@y...]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 9:32 PM
To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [az_vjc] Re: TJ A/C help, quick!!!
Thanks, Stu. It will run on low with no problem. It's when I put it
in a higher setting that the blower won't work. Based on that, maybe
it's the switch, not the resistors?!?
Do you know if I can replace just the switch?
Thanks,
Ben
Grapeape XJ
P.S. What do I need to do to get the dash off? Just the center
section with the radio & AC controls?
--- In az_vjc@yahoogroups.com, "Stu Olson" <solson8@q...> wrote:
> Sounds like either the fan switch or the resistors the switch
actuates
> have gone bad. Usually it will run in the HIGH position because the
> resistor pack is completely bypassed by the HIGH position relay.
>
> Stu Olson
> www.stu-offroad.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Hill [mailto:grapeape_xj@y...]
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:45 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] TJ A/C help, quick!!!
>
> The AC in my wife's TJ is doing funny things. The blower comes on
at
> the lowest setting. However, the next three do nothing. If I jimmy
> the dial and hold it between settings it blows air. Does anyone
know
> what might cause this and is there a quick fix?
>
> The reason I say quick, is because my wife taking off for Vegas in
a
> couple of hours. If I can't get it fixed, she takes my XJ :(, no
> wheelin' while she's gone.
>
> I'm not failiar with the TJ dash and don't have a manual for it.
> Does it "pop" off like the XJ?
>
> Any help is appreciated.
>
> Ben
> Grapeape XJ
>
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